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President Obama Bites The Hand That Feeds Him…Again

ABC’s Jake Tapper reported last night that the President’s Political Arm Follows His Lead in Drumming Up Support for Health Care Reform Push — by Criticizing Media.

In his August 20, 2009, meeting with supporters at the Democratic National Committee and its “Organizing for America” (OFA) arm – formerly the “Obama for America” campaign – President Obama blamed the media for the fact that many untrue claims made by opponents of his health care reform push had been accepted by many Americans as fact.

Stating that end of life care was “previously considered a bipartisan concept,” the president said, “this used to be just a sensible thing that everybody could agree to.”

But it “suddenly became ‘Death Panels,’ and scared Grandma,” he said, “and it’s just irresponsible.”

“Scared Grandma?” Can our President say anything that doesn’t sound condescending and insulting?

The president added, “I have to say, part of the reason it spreads is the way reporting is done today. If somebody puts out misinformation, ‘Obama’s Creating Death Panels,’ then the way the news report comes across is: ‘Today such-and-such accused President Obama of putting forward death panels. The White House responded that that wasn’t true.’ And then they go on to the next story. And what they don’t say is, ‘In fact it isn’t true.’”

Even more preposterous than the President demonizing “grandma” and anyone else angered by the arrogant, flatfooted handling of health care reform legislation, he is now demonizing the press, his strongest allies.

No “death panels” eh? Glad to hear it. But I wonder why a Senate subcommittee then promptly removed a suspicious sounding provision from their bill after Sarah Palin made a stink about it on her Facebook page. Even Obama cheerleader Eugene Robinson admitted she had a point. His monstrous health care bill (I think there are 5) has not even been formulated yet, but the Obama Administration is going full steam ahead selling it to the American people, criticizing anyone questioning their audacity in ramming through a bill no one understands. The latest we hear is that Obama has backed off the public option. This magical health care legislation morphs into something new daily.

As Tapper points out:

Today OFA sent out an email to supporters continuing this line of criticism. (You can see the email HERE.)

“Over the past few months, two things have become clear about the fight for health insurance reform,” writes OFA director Mitch Stewart. “1. Our opponents will create and spread outrageous lies to try to stop President Obama from creating real change. 2. We just can’t count on the media to debunk them.”

Obama cannot count on the media? Not two months ago, he made fun of the media’s fawning when he joked about rolling over in bed to find Brian Williams lying beside him. The President is also being disingenuous. When the “death panels” comment hit the net, the press was all over itself debunking it, and insulting Palin once again. The American people saw through the many conflicting statements on health care and decided they weren’t buying. That is the real issue. But the President can’t come out and tell the American people off for not being seduced by more smoke and mirrors.

This comment is the pièce de resistance…

Stewart then quoted President Obama from August 20, and said supporters need to “double our own efforts to get the truth out. That means more organizers running door-to-door canvases and phone banks to educate our neighbors, more events to spread the word to Congress, and more ads on the air countering the smears. And we’ll need the money to pay for it all. Can you chip in to help make it happen?”

“Stepping in when the media fails is a daunting challenge,” Stewart writes.

Yes, let’s go door to door for more bullying. Let’s raise lots more money people don’t have to push a plan when we’re still not sure what’s in it.

So far, this administration has not earned enough points with the American people to convince us we should take legislation this important on faith. Stewart has a lot of nerve to talk about what should be done when the media fails to do its job. I think there are still a good number of Hillary’s 18,000,000 voters who might like to get a piece of that action.

No one, not even President George Bush ever had such loving, sycophantic treatment by the press. More than owing contributors to his huge war chest, President Obama owes the mainstream media for their blind praise and abject refusal to vet him throughout 2008. That was reason numero uno why this man was elected. Now he is criticizing the press for actually daring to let a little real news see the light of day. In reality, he is criticizing the fact that press efforts to minimize the gravity of grass roots opposition has backfired.

Of course we need reform, but before we do something drastic to 1/6th of the economy in such perilous times, let’s make sure we are doing something to help, not hurt. The Obama Administration has once again chosen bullying and hubris over returning to the drawing board to fix the problem.

The media still defends the President at every turn. It is an indicator of negative public sentiment when the President feels he must resort to criticism of an organism that has largely functioned as his own personal PR firm for 20 months. It will be interesting to see if any of our so called journalists finally declare enough is enough and remember the way they USED to do their jobs.

We’re waiting…

  • Doc99

    OT: Sarah Palin nails it – Death Panels!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Excellent post Ani. I hope this time they bitten off more than they can chew and the media wakes up.
    As yet not holding my breath.

  • Obamastolemycounty

    Can someone please stop this spinny ride now? I’d like to get off. I’ve been dizzy and nauseous for a very long time now. I wake up every morning wondering why we can’t get out of the twilight zone!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I’d like to help but I never know if I am on my head or my ass these days and the nausea is not getting any better regardless which way is up.

  • bitethehandthatfeeds

    Mr Pres many possibilities here:

    Bama doesn’t understand that it is a shame to have so much love for oneself that it is impossible to understand there may be those who would have the audacity of hope that someone would disagree with him. “I have spoken, praise me”, spoketh Bama.

    Bama doesn’t understand because he surrounds himself with those that love him as much as he does. Idiot Czars who will remake America in his image (like Chavez). “Bama!, Bama!, Bama!”, they scream as tears roll down their cheeks.

    Bama doesn’t understand that the media fawning sooner or later will end. Bad news sells and creates profits, not sixty front pages of what I will name my dog. Capitalism and profit … “What are these”, Bama mused.

    I could go on … but you have the picture Bama doesn’t ….

  • oowawa

    Fine article, Ani, thank you.

    I would like to consider Thee One’s rhetorical point that the prospect of death panels “scared Grandma.”

    This arguing point begins with the assumption that “Grandma,” as opposed to Grandpa or a brave woman in her prime, is easily scared. The subtext is directed both to Grandpa and healthy women who see themselves as younger than Grandma: “What are you–a wussie sissy scaredy old girl? You aren’t like a fraidy old grandma, are you?”

    The phrase is both ageist and sexist. Most of the grandmas that I know have iron at their core, and have paid for their wrinkles and scars with many years of hard work and pain. They can look The Reaper eyeball to eyeball without blinking, and they do. Don’t trifle or denigrate “Grandma,” you self-important twit!

  • Obamastolemycounty

    I’m also experiencing overuse injuries from my jaw dropping to the floor, shaking of the head and clenching fists frequently. I should sue the Government for personal injury!

    Class action anyone?????

  • tzada

    Good, very good article Ani.

  • http://noquarterusa No-nonsense-Nancy

    Thanks, Ani, for a very good post. I ish e could get him out of there before he does any more harm.

    Also, thanks to you Doc99 for the link to the UK article. It is really frightening that this may be what we may be experiencing here eventually.

  • oowawa

    Another ailment that began a little over a year ago: grinding of teeth all night long . . .

    I don’t think any of this is going to be covered under the O-Whole-Health plan

  • Gabi Lange

    Excellent, Ani. But remember, we are all morons, evil-mongers, troublemakers, fringeys for even daring to question The One. Looks like the media is heading for under that great cosmic bus.

  • standard

    There goes public options under the bus.
    D*mn his a*s.

  • Lana

    You hit it, oowawa. Obama goes right on being sexist (and ageist). It’s as natural to him as breathing.

  • IndieDogg

    Your headline scared me, so I’m hiding under the bed until Grandma can come read it to me.

  • Tammy

    Thanks for the article Ani.
    This self-absorbed President truly believes that we are his minions, only here to do his bidding.

    Oh, and Doc99: I just read that UK article before I came to this site. Why do people STILL think Government run health care is a good thing?
    Just search the Telegraph site with “NHS” and you’ll find 20 stories that are just as horrifying as that one.

  • sowsear

    I had a conversation the other day with an over 65yr.old lady who said that she wants her 89 yr. old mother to stop railing against Obama every time she calls. Younger lady wants her mother to stop being so negative!!!I told YL, I think your Mom should be angry… and scared, too.

  • http://syd4.blogspot.com/ SYD

    Scared grandma = typical white women.

    We are all idiots, you know.

    SYD

  • http://syd4.blogspot.com/ SYD

    Scared granny. Same as “typcal white women” doncha know?

  • http://www.partizane.com NewHampster

    Everybody In, Nobody Out

    I like that mantra and it’s really time for the jackasses in the administration to take a mulligan and start over. Write a universal single payer plan like the American people need.

    Or we can continue to let companies like Pfizer raid our wallets.

    just my two cents Ani. ;-)

    Partizane

  • Ani

    Very well stated, oowawa. His implication is the “Grandma” is some frightened doddering old twit. Ntohing could be further from the truth.

  • Ani

    Your .02 are always welcome!! :mrgreen:

  • Katmoon

    Come on out Indie, it’s safe.

    Obama the punk, such a little, little man. He can’t handle not being the Beloved of the media; and we know he cannot handle any form of disagreement, to his well thought plans. (snigger). Is it wrong to say he is showing his true colors? Sexist, racist punk. O please Mr. president, stop flattering us so much. He needs a trip to Obermonsters “shed”.

  • CalifGirlInMaine

    NewHampster, wake up. Maine has universal health coverage with the Dirigo plan, which has been a dismal failure. Mass. has MANDATORY universal health coverage, and it doesn’t work either. You think the federal government will do it better? They can’t run the post office or Amtrak and break even, and Medicare has much waste and fraud besides a deficit. The government couldn’t even run Cash for Clunkers efficiently! I’d hate to see what they would do with a single-payer nationalized health care plan.

  • abycat

    Another excellent post Ani. Just when I did not think this could get anymore outrageous. We are waiting is right, except I don’t trust the press any more either. I don’t think I will ever trust one word that comes out of the mouths of Brian Williams, Katie Couric, CNN, et al ever again. I won’t bother listening. This is truly a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in. It is not only outrageous, it is downright frightening.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Great piece Ani. Yes, all I ask is for a health care bill that is comprehensible so that I can digest it. But I think ambiguity and data gaps got him into the presidency, so the game plan just continues. Scary!

  • abycat

    This guy is beyond unbelievable. I cannot stand him more and more every day.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Excellent, Ani.

    This magical health care legislation morphs into something new daily.

    That really isn’t morphing you’re seeing–it’s just decaying rapidly. And the more they try to revive it, the less likely it is to be resuscitated. Time to tag it DNR.

  • beachnan

    Clueless, is the only word to describe this man and his administration. The scary part is they don’t realize how sexist and ageist they are. It’s nice so see the media get slapped upside it’s head-they have been idiots in their idolization of all things Obama. Let’s hope that his comments wake up “that sleeping giant”, and they start to act like true journalists, instead of cheerleaders. Thanks Ani, for another great article.

  • cathnealon

    What more does the mainstream media have to do to please this narcissist? I mean they didn’t vet him or anyone associated with him during the campaign, they had tingles going up their legs, no one has gotten hold of his school records,the LA Times buried a damning tape, the Blagoevich and Rezko, Ayers and Wright connections were enough to eliminate any other candidate that didn’t have the media wall around him that he had. And now he’s worried about them ‘scaring Grandma.” Is he certifably insane? And doesnt’ anyone see how he constantly references “grandmothers” in his speeches. What’s up with that, does he have some hidden resentment against his “typical white grandmother.”

  • AF catfish

    CalGirlinCal here, good points.

    Some ideas that have nothing to do with insurance, but could improve health CARE, could be: building and supporting more health clinics, thereby freeing up emergency rooms. A lot of people who quality for Medicaid are not even enrolled in it. Get those people enrolled and get them familiarized with a “medical home” (a clinic) where they can start building a partnership for preventive care with their provider.

    Tort reform was implemented in Texas and lo and behold – a bunch of doctors moved to Texas to set up shop. Docs are being put through the ringer by insurance companies.

  • http://shhhithitsthefan.wordpress.com/ ithitsthefan

    A really great write up. I don’t agree with everything you say but nearly 90% of it I do. Well thought out and presented.

    Obama seems to be morphing into Bush again, attacking the press when things don’t go his way. Pathetic!

  • AF catfish

    Did you notice the press releases when POTUS was at Martha’s Vineyard that boohoo, his weeklong vacation was interrupted three times? The third time being Ted Kennedy’s funeral? Poor Bama. He had to interrupt his vacation to give a eulogy.

    Then Politico showed Bama, first day back from Martha’s Vineyard, decided to take the day off work to play golf with Ron Kirk.

  • Ani

    How lovely if we could actually have congress debate some of these ideas and consider them, particularly tort reform. That is the problem — people on the ground on the receiving end, and those responsible for health care delivery should be in the middle of this, butt hey are not.

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  • TeakWoodKite

    BO, welcome to the big league. You really do need to go back to the minors.
    Stating that end of life care was “previously considered a bipartisan concept,” the president said, “this used to be just a sensible thing that everybody could agree to.”

    But it “suddenly became ‘Death Panels,’ and scared Grandma,” he said, “and it’s just irresponsible.”

    Yes BO, “this used to be just a sensible thing that everybody could agree to.”

    Who’s “everybody”? Rezko? Auchi? Wright? Chavez? Ayers?
    Ani, would BO KNOW what irresponsible is when he did nothing for his freezing constituents? This one action and his statement of ignorance about it doesn’t and never will wash, judging by all the jobs making Washing Machines that have gone south.

  • Patience

    Nailed it.

  • AF catfish

    Sarah Palin is a grandma. Just sayin’.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I’m just perpetually surprised that he is still resorting to BIG SPEECHES in order to make things right. Now it’s his big speech on healthcare. Who gives a crap? Give us a plan that makes sense. Sit behind the damn desk and get to work!

  • candymarl

    Agreed. Obama definitely has Grandma issues. I hope he works through them and stops making the rest of us pay.

  • Nobama4me

    I don’t know what the O is talking about: just today CNN revealed a new poll that said 90% of Dems just love the President handling of his job, and 15% of Republicans love him too(doesn’t that look really good for the O? 90% wow! sure looks better than those wishy-washy Gallup and Rasmussen polls…): it’s just those pesky 10% Dems (some of us here) and 85% Repubs.(some of us here)that don’t buy him (notice there were no Indies polled?)The piece was about : how divided is America?
    and you’ll be happy to know that Heidi Collins refrained from calling us white right wing terrorists…perhaps that’s what the O meant about the Media not fighting hard for him.

    Thanks Ani for this post.

  • candymarl

    Another complaint I also have about Obama. Stop speechifying and do some work!

    If I see that man or hear from him one more time I swear I will scream. I know politicians love to talk but damn man! That’s all Obama does. Talk and vacation.

    I predicted Obama would be GWB on steroids. I wish I’d been wrong.

  • candymarl

    Another thing, Obama seems to think that We The People and the Media work for him. Perhaps Mr. Constitutional Scholar needs a refresher course.

  • Ani

    I too am surprised he feels the need to give a speech. I think we are past that at this point. Congress has made clear they need the President to hash out exactly what he expects from them in terms of this legislation. They require and are asking for leadership and specifics. I worry that a speech is for ‘convincing’ without the data or policy to back it up.

    I hope he will lay out specifics in this speech but think I am being overly optimistic to think that will be the case.

  • Ani

    Certainly there are only so many times a legislator can get away with saying “I didn’t know” and getting a pass.

    What I found most disturbing about the point you raise, given that Pr. Obama said he “didn’t know” about many things, Rezko, Wright, his constituents’ housing situation, etc. — why would we want to entrust our safety to someone comfortable with “not knowing” so much that is happening around him?

    To date, that has not been adequately explained.

  • BlueTopaz

    I thought it was a Freudian slip because of his maternal grandma who just happended to die following a visit by him. He was her death panel.

  • Patience

    The media probably consider any nipping from this POTUS as foreplay, mere love bites. I imagine there are some who’d love to be roughed up even more. I’m reminded of the Kevin Bacon line in Animal House: Please sir, may I have another???

  • felizarte

    I think by “media” he really means Fox news. He doesn’t consider MSNBC and the rest as media–they are his pompom groupies.

  • requiredreading

    Right – but apparently you’re not allowed to call Obama a racist because if you do, it means you’re a racist. Obama Logic 101.

  • requiredreading

    I heard today (I think CNN, not sure) that in the speech Obama is not going to mention specifics and is not going to support the public option directly but rather “imply” that that’s what he wants. Now, tell me if I’m wrong: I’m getting the sense that middle America (middle of the political spectrum, I mean) is no longer going to faint at hopey/changey ambiguities coming from the Great DiscomBOOBulator. Could it be that the buck stops here in terms of Obama getting by with “grand ideas” that pretty obviously have no foundation in any ability of his to bring them about?

  • leatherware

    ~ Space Balls ~
    Obama: Chronicle of a Whiner
    The DP Series

    Starring:
    Obama as the Finger Pointer
    Pelosi as The Big Blue Turd
    Reid as The Barbarian

  • Nobama4me

    The Media does work for him. It shouldn’t, but it does.

  • donjo

    Yeah, right. They can’t run the highway department, the IRS, the Soc. Sec. Administration, the VA, the Military, the FAA, the FBI, the National Parks, and so on and on. What a shame that they can’t run a damn thing correctly.

    But then there’s some programs that aren’t in the business of earning money; they’re supposed to be helping people and providing a service to all of us, not earning dividends.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    they *don’t want* you to be able to comprehend it; that way they can claim anything to get it passed, and then once it’s passed, the usual suspects divvy up the spoils.

  • jbjd

    E I E I NO.

  • Ani

    Well, if that is in fact what his speech will be — vague, I hope the electorate sees fit to offer up the appropriate response — that means the left, the right and everyone in between.

  • jbjd

    Studies? Statistics? Cites? Correlation between malpractice insurance premiums charged by insurance companies issuing these policies; and payouts in claims?

  • candymarl

    You’re right but does Obama have to be so in your face about it? He doesn’t ask he demands and harangues.

    Obama needs to learn to eat a little humble pie (along with most of the members of both parties) and ask us we want. Is everyone going to agree? No. But what happened to the open meetings on CSPAN? What happened to his promises that he’d listen to us?

    Just as with most of his other promises they were just campaign rhetoric.

    I have zero sympathy for the Media. They kissed his a$$ and built him up as the next best thing to Jesus Christ. But as Obama isn’t really JC then they shouldn’t be surprised at his lack of gratitude for their assistance. Tingles and all.

  • Tammy

    Great observation, Bite the hand!
    No one is watching the news anymore, because they act like circus poodles following their Master.
    I haven’t watched network news in over a year. Get clips on the internet, and that’s enough to make me hurl.
    The master is now beating his puppies.
    Soon they will BITE.

  • Tammy

    I just wish someone could make this narcissist President SHUT UP.
    Apparently, we are all so STUPID, that he has to keep repeating the lies for all of us to get it.

    Doesn’t he know from ANY book about management that great leaders don’t TALK? They LISTEN.
    What a buffoon of a Marxist.

    I bet Carl is embarrassed.

  • maryann

    Why does Obama refuse to revoke his Indonesian, British, and Kenyan Citizenships? In the Naturalization Oath, future citizens must revoke all other allegiances; Obama by law is still British, Kenyan, possibly Indonesian and American. He legally owes allegiance to ALL countries simultaneously. He would not even qualify for a low level State Department job which excludes dual citizen because of conflicts of allegiance. Why won’t Obama revoke his other citizenships? How can he perform in his “job” with allegiances to other countries still in tact? Don’t believe it? Here’s a legal review of the Kenyan Independence, British Nationality Act of 1948 and 1981. Plus he was listed as an Indonesian citizen and never revoked that either (plus Quarles Harris is dead plus Eni Faleomavagua bribed Indo officials plus the passport breach CEO now works for him = he’s still Indonesian). http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/confirmed-factcheck-org-published-bogus-fact-regarding-obamas-kenyan-citizenship/

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ani, fast forward to the present and knowing this, why would he think the American people would be for any “bill” that was not THE bill being considered.

    I keep hearing there are 5, count them 5, different “bills” and it is my understanding that the executive office has not offered one of them for consideration. True?

    It bugs the crap out of me that there is no House nor Senate bill actually on the respective floors for consideration.
    I think, “why the heck are people so “believing” on “just words” that can’t be read as if they ARE the matter at hand?”
    (never mind that that I can’t seek redress if they not up for debate and the members who have positions of direct authority over the calender, refuse to show any spine.)

    My sanehalf just said “I just wish Obama had some balls and do single payer”, (since the election we have been diagnosed with chronic “New Hampster Syndrome”)
    So coming from her multiplied by the millions, there are some pissed of Democrats.

    BO can bite me.

  • VinceP

    Holy shlt people…

    this is the Holy Grail .. the smoking gun.. of the insidieous nature of the Obama Adminstration

    (not that anyone needed more convincing)

    http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-czars-shock-admission-green-jobs-goal-is-complete-revolution-away-from-gray-capitalism/

    That video has Van Jones saying how the “Green Economy” is the vanguard of an incrementalism whose goal is the destruction of the United States as we know it.

    OBAMA MUST BE IMPEACHED NOW

  • ginger

    LOL. He is the “Whiner-in-Chief”!

  • jwrjr

    Obama’s problem is not that people are spreading lies about his Health Care Reform plan. His problem is that people are not spreading his lies about the “reforms”.

  • Marge

    You are right – there are horror stories with UHC. They are probably less than a fraction of a fraction of 1% of opinion. I am Canadian, and I do hear the occasional bad story on TV, but they are rare and picked up by the right wing. I have always had wonderful care, as have my kids and grandkids, friends, co-workers and neighbours. The only Canadian I know who would trade our system for yours is a millionaire conservative who doesn’t think that other people are nearly as important as he is.
    So they found 20 horror stories in the UK? Wow. Do you hear of the millions of people who love their system?

  • LesleeE

    Good comment Marge, but no one wants to hear it. No one wants to hear that UHC works, or wants to acknowledge the millions of heart breaking stories that occur under this system.

  • Tammy

    Yes, yes I do, Marge.
    They are called AMERICANS. Millions of them love our system.
    And I believe that you are a liar, because those horror stories in the UK are systemic. And since I lost my father-in-law to the “wait for six months for your pace maker old man” system, I know what I’m talking about.

    Why is a Canada, the BIGGEST user of the Mayo Clinic, telling the U.S.A. how to run our country?
    Stay in Canada, dear, and don’t tell us how to run a free Market.
    Oh, and when you REALLY get sick, I’ll see you in the USA.
    Unless this Marxist President decides that you should stay home.

  • TeakWoodKite

    And they playing “Hide the Whip”?

    sorry I had to go there.

  • lorac

    Good catch, oowawa

  • Tammy

    By the way, how do YOU decide that they are less than 1% of opinion?
    I go by FACTS, not opinion.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I do not get into the healthcare turmoil as I am so torn I am originally from the UK and have seen excellent care…. I have a mother at 78 on dialysis 3 times a week who is blind and a diabetic I see the wonderful care she receives.
    She was 70 when she went on dialysis she was not thrown to the wayside as they advertised here recently in an ad on TV. I could go on and on and on about healthcare in the UK but it does not help the situation. In healthcare things go wrong illnesses are missed etc regardless where we live.

    My mother in the UK received better care than my friend’s Mother here in the States suffering the same conditions. It was such a struggle to get the dialysis she needed it never worked correctly in the end she gave up and died 2 weeks later.
    I have seen both sides.

    I have lived in the states for 15 yrs and have had great care here all my family have.
    However I had an op that went wrong and suffer today and struggled for over 2yrs to have the situation corrected.

    What needs to be reformed is the high costs families have to pay out for healthcare. Insurance companies skim so much money it’s unreal let’s face it if you’re paying out of pocket for healthcare one should be able to have whatever care is needed.

    At times it’s a gamble if the insurance company will even pay for the care that is needed.

    Really in reality that is no different to what happens or is shown to be wrong with the healthcare be it in the UK or Canada.

  • lorac

    lol I hope you don’t use that argument in court!

  • erin

    Well said. Any system that is so large is bound to have its shortcomings, but by and large health care works for the many people who cannot afford to provide for themselves any suitable health cover. As a person who has benefited from universal health cover in two countries, ie the UK and Australia, both of which are different, I can vouch for its success. Let the critics start focusing on the positives rather than the negatives, that way we will all be better informed.

  • lorac

    Yeah, time to put the plan in front of a death panel.

    Start again, Obama (or better yet, go away).

  • lorac

    He’s going back on vacation, planned before the “interruptions at Martha’s Vineyard. It might have already started – a looooong labor day weekend at Camp David.

    I know during the elections alone he broke Bush’s vacation record, but I think part of this is him hiding from the falling polls. I don’t think he can handle it. And when narcissists get frustrated in what they want, they can get very aggressive and vindictive…. so the country better look out.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Fine article Ani.

  • lorac

    Did they not poll independents? That’s interesting, because a while back I had heard it’s about evenly split – 1/3 of us are in each group. So leaving them out is leaving out a large part of the population.

    He’s lost something like 16 points among independents very recently, and this is an important group for him – but he’s consistently losing more and more of them.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Well I would never of let my FIL sit for 6 months I would of been in the Drs surgery every week demanding to be seen or calling 999 every week saying he was having a heart attack it would of been quicker for them to of given him the pacemaker he needed.

    This is a blog where we can offer experiences together I thought?
    We are not all liars Tammy and you need to keep the name calling at bay.

  • TeakWoodKite

    an organism ; LOL, frakin microbes that thrive on pond scum.

    Julianne Potter: I’m pond scum. Well, lower actually. I’m like the fungus that feeds on pond scum.
    Michael O’Neill: Lower. The pus that infects the mucus that cruds up the fungus that feeds on the pond scum. On the other hand, thank you for loving me that much, that way. It’s pretty flattering.
    Julianne Potter: Except it makes me fungus.

    .

  • TeakWoodKite

    Obamastolemycounty, did you say “tort reform”?

  • sarah tufts

    i was watching sean hannity with my father a minute ago and he was talking about obama adressing the student body on tuseday the 8th so i went on fox.com and posted a comment on there here it is……

    ”my name is sarah tufts i am a proud 15 years old american i dont think parents are wrong for sheilding there children from this nonsience this is a free country last time i cheched, i dont see why we should watch it we allready know to stay in school and i sure the hell dont want to here it from some one who says my mother and father should die with dignity at the age of 65 i want my children to grow up with there grandparents just as i did. first of all teaching 1st 2nd 3rd ect. graders about same sex marriage is highly irresponsible as if children arn’t confused enough i have no problem with same sex couples but to teach it to young children is just despicable wake up and smell the coffee america we cannot let him keep doing this.”

    then i went back and checked it and it was flaged and deleted so looks like they cant take the truth can they

  • sarah tufts

    oh and btw it was kinda off topic sorry

  • Ani

    I certainly would never argue the need for health care reform in this country. But we need clarity and a plan that will ensure Americans are getting high quality care. These 5 bills, 1500 pages of incomprehensible stuff only indicate we are not there yet and need to take the time to craft this properly.

  • BJinChicago

    Ani,

    This was a great read, very informative. I just can’t believe he feels the need to give another speech, where he will say (if the past is any indicator) absolutely nothing but Blah-Blah-Blah-Blah-Blah. I don’t think I’ll ever forgive the people who voted for this mistake.

  • maryanne

    uhhhh, I think that is what he plans to do – he will give you a plan – would you rather he write an email outlining healthcare? how do you have time for such pettiness and hate??

  • PO’dVet

    All this talking about how other countries run their Universal Health Care is nonsense anyway! We aren’t talking about other countries running our health care system, we are talking about our bumbling ass government full of the most corrupt and ignorant SOB’s on the planet running it! If you want to know how they will do…look at the health care system they already run! And I’m not talking about medicare! They only mismanage that, not run it. They RUN the VA! And as a vet who had to have surgery at a VA hospital…I can honestly say. I would not send my wifes dog there! I have veins that when I donate blood…I can let new people draw it, and they always hit it the first time. I have never had anyone miss my veins…except at the VA hospital, where it took 6 tries! They took my tonsils out…routinely an outpatient surgery now. But when they finished with me at the VA…My soft palette was broken, and the back of my throat is one mass of scars. That besides the fact, that in recovery. The very first sip of hot coffee they gave me (Yes I said hot coffee, it was that or hot tea…no other choices given) dissolved the scab that had formed, and blood started pouring out of my mouth. They had to rush me down and then used styptic pens to burn the bleeding stopped.
    And if you want a real nightmare of our government run health care. Talk to some of our nations hero’s who lost arms and legs in combat, only to be left laying in their own shit for days in VA hospitals!

  • imustprotest

    It’s always the Major Speech that gets him out of jams. His Race Speech got him out of the Jerimaih Wright controversy. His Anti War Speech that no one even heard got him the presidency. He’s just going back to what seems to work for him….words, just words.

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    You forgot the “blah….ummmmm…….errrrr……blah, blah….ummmmm…..uh, uh, uh, blah blah…..errrrrr…..uuuuuuhhhhhh…blah blah blah

  • Patience

    Sarah, I hate to say it but if you’re 15 yrs. old, you desperately need help (and soon) with grammar, spelling, punctuation and composition.

  • AF catfish

    I know a narcissist very well, member of immediate family. I am trying to remember what she … er *the narcissist I know* does in these situations.

    The thing about narcissists, they are so needy of attention they figure out ways to get it. They make new friends easily (as their old ones give up.) To wit: Obama lost his friends the college kids, so he’s now reaching out to the little kindergartners. But he’s still halfway thru his first year – what will he do in year three??

  • AF catfish

    Another really odd mysterious thing about him. He sees himself as this holy man, yet he’s willing to explain his lies by “well that was the campaign, there you go.” and hang out with thugs and imply he’s thuggish himself.

    Well which is it? Are you Jesus or Tony Soprano? Narcissists get to be both.

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “. . . both ageist and sexist.”

    Kind of like ‘John McCain could keel over dead any moment and we’ll end up with a woman President.’ That was basically his election strategy.

  • AF catfish

    Awesome.

    As for dying with dignity at 65, a lot of my friends had their kids in their late 30s, and some in their early 40s. Because they thought they were being responsible by waiting until they could afford to raise kids. Unlike Octomom. But if they have to croak at 65, when the kid is 25, what the hell? Octomom is looking like a role model, under Obama’s ideas.

    And why are we scaling back life expectency to 65 now?

  • Karma

    OMG….

    And to think that VA doesn’t want Obamacare….even with that type of track record.

    Scary stuff….and geez can’t they get volunteer candy stripers to go in there and help these wounded vets have the dignity of a clean bedpan?

    What is going on there?

  • FranSC

    It was just pointed out on Hannity by Mark Furman that the government cannot even run decent health care for veterans. Is there anyone who has ever seen or heard of a VA Hospital that could be considered a facility anyone could be proud of?

    Then they said, even veterans have heard threats about them having to use their own insurance. If the people who have put their lives on the line for our country cannot count on the utmost care, where do you suppose that leaves the rest of us?

  • Karma

    Great points.

  • FranSC

    For someone who is tauted to be ‘elite’, ‘ivy-league educated’, his illustrations are so elementary as well as insulting. For a POTUS to talk about ‘grandma’ on such a folksy basis is revolting to say the least. Falls in the same category as, “the police who acted stupidly”. He is nothing more than an educated fool who was at the right place, at the right time, many times. When is this idiot’s luck going to run out?

  • Karma

    Remember when they said the five bills would be ‘stitched together’ at the end? Making them all viable to debate.

    Yet now it isn’t being represented that way once the masses started reading, while the representatives weren’t.

    Now you hear pro-Obama talking heads on tv claim there is no bill out there. So these complaints aren’t based on facts, just scare tactics, etc, etc.

  • FranSC

    Or her death angel. Take your pick.

  • Karma

    Instant classic….sorry but I copied it whole.

    ~~~

    http://www.lodinews.com/articles/2009/09/02/opinion/columnists/hansen_steve_090902.txt

    Doctor, they lie about taxes, wars and health care. Is there no one I can trust?

    Updated: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 6:24 AM PDT

    ~~~~

    The therapist and the patient have a meeting of the minds:

    T: What brings you to my office?

    P: I have feelings of being exploited by others. I believe there is constant deception around me. I question the loyalty and trustworthiness of people who are supposed to have my best interest at heart.

    T: When did you first notice the symptoms?

    P: I think it started with Bush 41 when he said: “Read my lips. No new taxes.”

    T: Are there other incidents in your life that have triggered these symptoms?

    P: Well, there was Bush 43 when he said, “Mission accomplished.” Lately, it’s been Barrack Obama, saying he won’t ration my health care. But it’s the name-calling and the put-downs that are really getting to me.

    T: What do you mean?

    P: Well, Nancy Pelosi called me “un-American.” Harry Reid said I am an “evil-monger,” and Barney Frank said talking to me is like talking to the dining room table.

    T: How does this make you feel?

    P: Powerless, helpless, small — like I am a non-entity.

    T: Does that make you angry?

    P: Yes. Very much so!

    T: What have you done so far to cope with this situation?

    P: I’ve tried to ignore them. But if I have the radio or TV on, they are everywhere. There are even commentators agreeing with them. I try to drown out their voices by playing old Dixie Chicks CDs, but I can still hear them. I pick up the paper to read the local news, and there they are — right between a gay marriage story and one about a St. Anthony’s spaghetti dinner.

    T: Are you doing anything else to adjust?

    P: I thought maybe I would save some money and take a vacation in the Middle East. But I can’t save enough because the dollar loses more and more of its value every day.

    T: I think you have some serious pathology going on here.

    P: What do you mean?

    T: You are delusional. You don’t even know these people and they don’t know you. Why are you taking these comments as directed toward you?

    P: I just know they are — and why are you taking their side?

    T: You’re overreacting. Everything will be just fine.

    P: Oh, yeah? Well what about the trillions in debt I’m going to have to pay?

    T: Don’t worry. That bill is going to your children and grandchildren. I think some medication is in order here.

    P: What do you have in mind?

    T: An anti-psychotic would be helpful. It will cloud your thinking so that the delusions will cease.

    P: Will I still be able to think?

    T: No. That’s the good part. You’ll be just like many other Americans.

    P: OK. I’ll try it. Will the government health care plan pay for it?

    T: I don’t know. I always take cash payment up front, preferably in gold coins. You see, I just don’t trust those guys in Washington.

    ~~~

    Steve Hansen is a Lodi writer and satirist.

  • charliecheckers

    Hey Sarah – My guess is that you’re not American. I am going by the second “ch” you wrote in the word “checked”. That is an indicator that your language’s “ch” sounds like a “k”.

  • jbjd

    I thought this was so funny; I often repeat the phrase NewHampster said, and I just got tired of writing out all the words.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Fetuses.

  • elizabethrc

    The puppies ARE beginning to bite. I read this am that the Obamacans are rethinking their Obama message to schools across the country, in light of the wholesale outrage parents are showing. This is a Marxist invasion of our kids minds, (if you have the children, you have the voters, someone said).
    It’s working, folks. Keep demonstrating, listening to Beck, discussing with those willing to discuss and we’ll defeat this anti-American, anti-Democratic administration at their own game.
    The poor fool is so poorly invested in this country that he doesn’t understand what an American is, what American strength of character is (because he has none, this man who ‘has such good judgement’), and how strong we citizens are when our rights and liberties are threatened. He just didn’t think that since the enemy this time comes from within, that we would recognize what he is trying to do.
    I have a glimmer of hope that when the Republicans become the majority in Congress, and as Obama finally makes a mistake so treasonous, impeachment proceeding will start. I can dream, can’t I?

  • Sassy

    Good job Ani!
    E.J. Dionne did his dutiful whine with a column “Distorting the voice of the people”.
    With his usual eloquence Obama joked about “pulling the plug on grandma”.
    I, and many others, look at things for the longer term.
    We may agree that care for a very elderly, terminal patient should be limited. Here is the sticking point however: do we follow that same train of thought for the 50 year old with ovarian cancer, the 30 year old with breast cancer, the newborn with horrific defects?
    It becomes very personal in a heartbeat.
    Physicians may know that these particular cases are hopeless but are compelled to do their best. It is the ethical thing to do! I fear the road we are starting down!

  • Margaret

    precisely

  • Margaret

    You go girl!!

  • Margaret

    That’s ok! And don’t listen to those who are being critical. You’re awesome.

  • Rah-Rah

    I’m just throwing this out…

    But is it possible that some of the people posting on this site are PRETENDING to be Canadian or from the UK, and then writing about how wonderful their system is? I don’t now, but we saw a lot of deception from the Obama camp during the primary (I saw it first-hand as a Clinton delegate).

    My BS radar is going off a bit with some of these posts… on the Obama payroll-train, maybe? Checks cut by Axelrod or Soros?

    It’s all just a bit suspect and timely.

  • Rah-Rah

    Meant to say … “I don’t KNOW, but we saw a lot of deception…”

  • Thinker

    It is an indicator of negative public sentiment when the President feels he must resort to criticism of an organism that has largely functioned as his own personal PR firm for 20 months.

    - So very true. You always have a way with words Ani. Love your blogs.

    The mainstream media has been kissing Barry’s behind since he first became nationally known. And now that the press is covering the protestors at the townhall meetings, all of a sudden the media is the big bad bully. We have networks that are REFUSING to air ads that criticize his “healthcare” plan.

    When he says media, he means Fox. Who knew that I would be a viewer?? Fox used to be banned in my house, lol.

    Did anyone watch Beck last night?? He talked about how The Obama Administration wants the National Endowment for the Arts to create art to be used as propaganda for Barry. Of course, the NEA didn’t say the word propaganda, but that’s exactly what they are trying to do.

  • Thinker

    Exactly.

    He’s always in campaign mode, reading words from a telepromptor, bactracking the minute the speech is over.

    Here’s to hoping it breaks down.

  • Thinker

    lol @ speechifying. I’ll have to use that one.

    Dude is always posing for pictures for magazines, making speeches, or on vacation. We know he didn’t write the bill. He was out by the pool and called in to be the mascot.

  • candymarl

    As a Vet I can tell you it depends on the VA Hosp. Some are poorly run just like some civilian hospitals are. Others are state-of-the-art. The VA in West Palm Beach FL is one of the most beautiful, well run, facilities I have ever seen. On the other hand the VA clinic in Tallahassee, FL is usually packed and wait times for appointments are very long.

    I received major back surgery at another VA by one of the best orthopedic surgeons in the country. That’s the only reason I’m not permanently paralyzed although I still have pain.

    I have been in a few VAs in different states and the quality of care often depends on the quality of staff. One thing I have noticed though. The nursing is the back bone of the VAs which is true of most if not all hospitals.

    In our search for comprehensive health care let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  • Ellen D

    I agree. I’m another Canadian who has been a target of Tammy’s name-calling for telling the truth that the Canadian system is excellent. Unfortunately her nastiness and name-calling has become the norm in a lot of discussions.
    There is no support in Canada for a US style system.
    Rich people from every country go to health facilities in the U.S. The U.S, has excellent services IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY. Unfortunately poor Americans don’t have that choice. We need Universal health care like every other civilized country.

    And before Tammy tells me to go back to Canada, I’m on U.S. socialized medicine – it’s called Medicare.

  • Ellen D

    Oooo this about-to-become Grandma who is still working and running companies loves you Oowawa!

  • candymarl

    Good points. If there is no bill then what did he want Congress to pass before the summer break? Calling Rod Serling!

  • Ellen D

    Great phrase New Hampster. Very funny jbjd. Always a pleasure to be in your company.

  • oowawa

    Remember when they said the five bills would be ’stitched together’ at the end?

    What they’re trying to put together here is “Frankenbill.” Thee One will speak to both houses of Congress and attempt to summon a lightning bolt down from the heavens that will bring Frankenbill to life . . .

    Meanwhile, far below the castle, the townspeople are gathering pitchforks and torches . . .

  • Ellen D

    Don’t know how Maine works but Mass. requires everyone to buy health insurance from companies. I’m an employer there and it hasn’t lowered any rates but it has required low income people to get subsidies from the government to give to private companies. It’s called Corporate Welfare.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    Sorry to tell you that there are more than 20 people who have been done in by the health care system in the UK. I have friends who live there and they can vouch for the horror. Just had a c-section and want to stay longer because you’re in pain? Sorry, we need the beds. Slipped disc? Here’s some morphine, lie on your couch and be a good sport and wait another month or two for the surgery because surely it’s not really an emergency. Should I tell you more?

  • Tammy
  • Tammy

    Now THAT is FUNNY.

  • proud mobster

    Obama is reacting the way a scoundrel does when his mojo is no longer working. Blame everyone and rush to get children on your side.

    Obama is never to blame NO NO NO. Even though his voice drips with contempt for the most volnerable Americans.

  • proud mobster

    E.J. Dionne did his dutiful whine with a column “Distorting the voice of the people”.
    With his usual eloquence Obama joked about “pulling the plug on grandma”.

    If Teddy Bundy talked about killing Grandma would he be called articulate?

  • Thinker

    He’s so pathetic.

    The adults are starting to see right through him so now he’s going after kids who don’t know any better.

    ugh

  • proud mobster

    tammy — let him talk because everytime he does his numbers go down further. As Rove said last night –OBAMA HAS BEEN IN OFFICE 242 DAYS AND MADE 143 SPEECHES ON HEALTHCARE NOW WE ARE TO BELIEVE HE IS ENGAGED ON THE SUBJECT?

  • proud mobster

    Isn’t that what he’s been doing all along? He talks about principles while the Dems do his dirty work. Sounds like more of the same chit that turned people off in the first place. Only as Axelrod says HE WILL BE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME NOW.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    my goodness your turned around in less than 4hrs here after major surgery in fact before you come round from surgery they have the person at your bedside who is transporting you home. As soon as you have taken a drink passed water you’re out of there.

    If you moved many of those complaining on healthcare in the UK or anywhere they would complain about the services offered here too. Healthcare will always have downsides regardless where it is received.

  • proud mobster

    At least when Truman proposed Healthcare for everyone he also wanted money set aside to educate more Doctors. Obama’s bill is about rationing and control–nothing more. We will cover millions more Americans with the same amount of doctors. And as far as paying those doctors for their services one only needs to look at Cash for Clunkers to see that Obama and Co. never pay their bills.

  • LesleeE

    So anyone who disagrees with you on this topic is a troll?
    That is sad.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Your BS radar is way off track!!

    But by all means class us as trolls. LOL you have no idea how far from the truth you are.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Giving a speech is NOT giving a plan. Giving a plan would be actually sitting your rear end down in the oval office and crafting some actual legislation. Which he does not do. His speeches are ultimately meaningless because he often says one thing and then does another.

  • fara

    By “media’ he means FOX News!

  • oowawa

    LOL Ellen–I’ll go with Grandma-Power to win every time! Incredible that this spankin’-new POTUS doesn’t know what he’s messing with . . .

  • Rah-Rah

    Okay. I’ll concede. But the primaries were full of deceptive posters… and I did not call anyone a “troll.”

    But I would like to say this: I would never dream of embroiling myself and debating Canadians or citizens of the UK on a subject that is none of my business. My experience could not be the same – even remotely – because we are vastly different countries with different needs. And that includes healthcare. Because of that, I do not feel that your insight is relevant anymore than my insight on your public healthcare would be.

    This is not a one-size-fits-all world that we live in.

  • tzada

    OT but for lack of another place to put this….

    ‘Green Jobs’ Adviser’s Past Could Stir Trouble for White House at Critical Time

    President Obama’s “green jobs” adviser could become a mounting liability for the Obama administration, as the latest revelation about Van Jones shows his apparent belief that the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks were an inside job.

    Jones joined the “9/11 truther” movement by signing a statement in 2004 calling for then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that “suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur.”

    The discovery comes after Jones had to apologize Wednesday night for “offensive words” he uttered in February when he called Republicans “assholes.” He said the remarks “do not reflect the views of this administration” and its bipartisan aims.

    But such statements just scratch the surface of Jones’ past commentary.

    He also has consistently leaned on racially charged language, pointing the finger at “white polluters and the white environmentalists” for “steering poison” to minority communities, as he makes the case for lifting up low-income and minority communities with better environmental policy

    A declared “communist” during the 1990s, Jones once associated with a group that looked to Mao Zedong as an inspiration.

    Jones’ exceptional past is reminiscent of associations noted during the presidential campaign, when then-Sen. Barack Obama doggedly fended off claims that he was tied to radicals and overzealous activists.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/green-jobs-advisers-past-stir-trouble-white-house-critical-time/

  • tzada

    ‘Green Jobs’ Adviser’s Past Could Stir Trouble for White House at Critical Time

    Jones joined the “9/11 truther” movement by signing a statement in 2004 calling for then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that suggests “people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.”

    The discovery comes after Jones had to apologize Wednesday night for “offensive words” he uttered in February when he called Republicans “assholes.”

    He also has consistently leaned on racially charged language, pointing the finger at “white polluters and the white environmentalists” for “steering poison” to minority communities.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/green-jobs-advisers-past-stir-trouble-white-house-critical-time/

  • Docelder

    Thank goodness for Beck. He is the lone voice questioning the czars. Why the czars, why so many czars and why does nobody mind that these insiders couldn’t get the clearance to clean the toilets at the White House let alone influence Presidential policy?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I live in the States have for 15 yrs I pay health ins here I am entitled to offer an opinion, especially when the UK system is being brought up. Don’t like it don’t read it.

  • Rah-Rah

    Your emotions do not change the fact that UK and Canadian comparisons to/on American health care are irrelevant. The countries are vastly different in scope, government, and diversity. And population:

    USA 300,000,000 +
    UK 60,000,000
    Canada 34,000,000

    If you care to offer straight-up opinion on the American health care system – without referencing systems which have no impact on our own – I’d be happy to read more. Otherwise, as you have so eloquently suggested, I won’t waste my time on commentary that takes away from a very important decision citizens of this country are struggling with.

  • b mathews

    the only way to get him out is to elect more republicans to the house and senate..thus taking away much of obamas power. then when the republicans have a majority, we can begin calling for impeachment. by the way, i am not a republican . i am registered as a democrat but dont like, trust or support this particular democratic party.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yes your real eloquent and your commentary is offensive.
    on the Obama payroll-train, maybe? Checks cut by Axelrod or Soros?

    Yes we are all as citizens struggling with important decisions let’s hope healthcare comes out for each of us better than it looks at present.

  • b mathews

    anybody else think this whole healthcare scheme is just a way to distact us from whats really going on?. that could be the reason this plan is so incomprehensible. possibly on purpose knowing it would stir up the citizens of this country and while we are busy protesting against it, obama is busy ensconsing his crooked chicago buddies in the
    WH and building his private army that he said would be just as well funded and as powerful as the military. doesnt anyone wonder why he needs this when we have the national guard? could it be to turn them on us if we “doth protest too much”.

  • b mathews

    obama himself said ‘judge me by the people i surround myself with” well lets see, van jones a self proclaimed communist, an anti-white and anti-american pastor, numerous tax cheats, numerous chicago crooks,etc. etc.i could go on but you get my meaning. so if we were to take him at his word (which at this point is hard to do) then should we assume he isalso an anti-white anti-american chicago thug ?

  • tzada

    From an email I just got

    USPS New 42-Cent Stamp!!! Celebrates Muslim holiday. It says GREETINGS and is due out or coming to a PO near you and I.

    They (MUSLIMS) don’t even believe in Christ, & they’re getting their own Christmas stamp! BUT, don’t dare to dream of posting the ten commandments on federal property! This is truly UNBELIEVABLE !!!

    I have no way of posting the picture

  • tzada

    Have you seen this video?

    Obama Czar’s SHOCK ADMISSION: ‘Green Jobs’ Goal is ‘Complete Revolution’ Away From ‘Gray Capitalism’

    http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-czars-shock-admission-green-jobs-goal-is-complete-revolution-away-from-gray-capitalism/

  • Ferd Berfle

    I

    n our search for comprehensive health care let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    I agree

  • Rah-Rah

    Actually, I think you meant…

    “Yes, YOU’RE real eloquent…”

    Otherwise, I can’t for the life of me figure out what my “your real eloquent” is.

    Also, it’s a very weak argument, JustMe, to go back and reference something the other has already conceded on…rather than to address their follow up comments. I pointed out why I felt Canadian/UK commentary were irrelevant to the American health care discussion, and you took a pass.

    I no longer take you seriously.

  • Patience

    Ani, I meant to mention earlier that I appreciate this article. You always do such a great job.

    I’ve been reading today about the controversy surrounding the POTUS’ planned speech to school children, and can only come to the conclusion that it illustrates yet another example of bias. Major media seem to find nothing wrong at all with the POTUS’ original plan to ask children to help HIM. Articles I’ve read generally paint any criticism as partisan.

    The cult of personality the POTUS works to burnish eludes the press, time and time again. They never question his methods or motives and what’s worse, try to run interference for him. The media need an intervention.

    I’ve never witnessed anything like it in my life. Is it any wonder that people — including Democrats — hungry for the whole truth are compelled to turn to blogs or right-wing media these days?

  • Ferd Berfle

    He has never given a speech which wasn’t vague. There are never specifics because he would have to explain them and as we all know, That One is so far above us mere mortals that explaining anything is beneath him. Obamacus doesn’t have to explain. That may go a long way towards explaining why all his supporters moonlight as bobbing heads when they’re not here on NQ parading their ignorance around…

  • Ferd Berfle

    Sigh… Lost another comment. Does the spamminator use, as part of its algorithm, a pair of loaded dice?

  • Ferd Berfle

    I’ve never witnessed anything like it in my life. Is it any wonder that people — including Democrats — hungry for the whole truth are compelled to turn to blogs or right-wing media these days?

    Indeed. When I do watch network newscasts, they include only Fox and occasionally Joe (when Mika isn’t flapping her jib thus allowing someone else to get an intelligible word in edgewise).

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Website for U.S. mission to U.N. scrubbed

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108708

  • LesleeE

    Wow Rah-Rah, hav yu listned to yurself? tak abut arrigunt.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Rah-Rah

    I have NEVER taken U seriously.

  • Docelder

    Thanks, this goes with my general concept that the far left has merely co-opted much of the single issue causes to their larger agenda. The environmental movement is worthwhile in itself, but not when co-opted by the radical left. I have a building suspicion that this radical left is actually more of an enemy to these co-opted causes than the far right ever was or ever could be. In the end the far left doesn’t care about the environment at all, only in co-opting the power from it. I think the same goes for immigration as an example. I have long wondered why this core group of privileged elites cares about immigrants. I think now that they don’t. But, the co-opted power they wield is merely being deflected to the larger far left goal. I used to worry whether this was socialism or communism. Now, I know better and either of these would have been better than what the truth is. When we see the emerging partnership between big business and government and when we see the emergence of a populist type of democracy with a complete cult of personality center… we aren’t looking at anything less than emerging fascism.

  • Docelder

    Yep, he scrubbed the flag off the tail of his plane during the campaign as well. Little things mean a lot, especially with this President because what he says means so little. You have to really watch what he does.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL LesleeE you will be chastised on your spelling. Please use spell check !!!!!! jk

    Some people cannot see their head from their ass it seems.

  • Rah-Rah

    I just don’t like mediocrity – including in my health care. And I won’t debate mediocre arguments, either. I was hoping JustMe would offer something substantial, but she didn’t.

    If you’d take a moment to analyze it, you’d see that it is thinking highly of people to assume that they can/will offer substance; to think otherwise is the epitome of arrogance.

    There is nothing wrong with having high standards in life…and expecting them, too. So go ahead and call me “arrigunt” if you want (I am assuming you know it is spelled “arrogant” and that you are just messing with me). But you might be surprised to learn that one year ago I was screaming for “socialized medicine” for this country. Now… I’m just not so sure.

    All I do know is that the debate does not need to be muddied by irrelevant anecdotes about health care in other countries.

  • Donna Brazile

    Look Rah-Rah:

    Your other friends Tinky Winky, Laa Laa, Po, Noo-Noo, and Dipsy are waiting for you.

    Stop the Bo scoota-fest!

  • Ferd Berfle

    Actually, it would be an excellent idea if someone actually looked at all the differing healthcare systems, paying particular attention to processes and then analyze them to get an idea of what might work here and to ignore those that wouldn’t. Most of what I read about healthcare is either anecdotal or dogmatic.

    An in depth analysis followed up with a public airing of the options beats the hell out of that fiasco of a deathcare bill they’re trying to foist on us but also would beat the current pocket-picking machine that constitutes our current system of redistributing wealth, which can’t even be called a system, in the strictest sense of the word as it more resembles a fustercluck.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    :)

  • Just_Saying

    So, do we have any way of knowing how much is being spent from federal funds to support Obummer’s health care PR campaign? Also, are all Obummer’s expenses to the meetings with the Democratic Party and similar partisan groups being paid for by the feds? If so, it seems illegal to me…
    .

  • Obamastolemycountry

    I agree with you, Mathews! I wish the answer was not the Republicans. Sadly, no independent party has enough strength or money! The only answer once again is to give the power over to the GOP, but those li’l f-ers had better go after this dictator big time! I was a lifelong dem until 2008 and from what I can see right now, there is no democrat I trust. I want to trust Hillary, but after this debacle I don’t see her or any democrat getting a chance for the White House for quite some time. I do have a few republicans that I trust so that is how I have to weigh it! I wish we could get them all out, every single one of them and elect some of the tea party folks, like myself, who love country more than party!

  • http://! stodgie

    i hope i never had to see another oh so “concerned” down talking teleprompter reader trying to feed me the crap that passes for news these days. i do my best to avoid it.

    and thanks goodness this nation is beginning to wake up to what a jerk we have in the wh. i hope we make his time there as negative as he has made it for us.

  • Obamastolemycountry

    Early on I realized that it would be dangerous to put someone in the white house who had been given a pass on everything and knew that they would get a pass on everything to come. I wish I hadn’t been right.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Who would have thought that the biggest welfare queens would be the very companies that are the darlings of the neoncons, you know–the ones who are neither new nor conservative.

  • Obamastolemycountry

    I was married to narcissist for 13 years. I had thought it for many years and it did show up in his psych eval from our custody battle. When narcissists are no longer worshiped and fawned over, they get very nasty and abusive. I am very afraid now that more and more people are seeing the truth. I think we saw this with Hitler, no? With Obarfy, we will all suffer a great deal, but I hope the ending is different than Hitler. Sad to say, but I do believe we may see this guy hauled off to the looney bin before it’s all said and done!

  • Ferd Berfle

    So true. This predilection That One has for beating his gums to the TelePrompTer on Tee-Vee on an almost daily basis is a two-edged sword for him. It does mesmerize his drool-bucket-toting supporters but has the added risk of his flipping his wig at some innocent question. The melt-down is a-comin’.

  • Ani

    Patience, thanks for your kind comment.

    Bush also addressed the schoolchildren at some point and I believe that did not go over well either.

    As to your last question, a number of Dems in my own circle did not vote for Obama, stay very involved in current events and do check out sites like this daily — they just don’t blog so you wouldn’t know they are out there — but they are.

  • Park Slope Pubby

    thank you guys for showing me I’m not crazy. And it makes me so happy to read what you have to say. Better than chocolate.

  • Katmoon

    Welcome, come on in, commiserate.

  • Ferd Berfle

    You’re not crazy. There are oases in the internet desert that don’t worship at the altar of That One and NQ is one of them. Most of the regulars here are disenfranchised former Democrats who found a centrist home in which to vent our collective outrage at the obamabot machine. It gets a bit rough here at times, but the commentary and discussions are among the finest I’ve ever seen on the web.

    Ferd.

  • Ani

    Welcome!

  • Obamastolemycountry

    For the Obama speech to school kids, this may come in handy:

    http://www.ed.gov/legislation/GOALS2000/TheAct/sec1017.html

  • tzada

    USPS News: Philatelic Releases

    U.S. POSTAGE STAMP CELEBRATING MUSLIM HOLIDAY TO BE ISSUED BY UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE
    Eid Stamp Part of Holiday Celebrations Series

    http://www.usps.com/news/2001/philatelic/sr01_054.htm

  • shadow

    I remember reading that Axelrod’s PR firm is getting paid to do the Healthcare ads. Nice, huh?

  • Patience

    It’s not uncommon at all for presidents to address schoolchildren. And I’ve read that Pres. GHWB was embroiled in a similar controversy in 1991. But this is the first time it’s a nation-wide address.

    I have no problem with presidents addressing schoolchildren. But either politicizing the address, and/or [in this current case] personalizing it by asking students to write letters about what they can do to help HIM (this is the similarity with GHWB’s address) is out of bounds as far as I’m concerned. While the original plan has been tweaked in regard to writing letters, there are still some aspects of the material being given to teachers that concern me. If you scroll down in this ABC News report, you’ll see where teachers can ask if the POTUS’s address inspires students:

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/09/obamas-back-to-school-message—-scribbled-with-some-controversy.html

  • Ani

    I agree. His plans are completely beyond the scope of what is appropriate in such an address.

  • oowawa

    Orwell. 1984. Big Brother.

    At this moment the entire group of people broke into a deep, slow, rhythmic chant of ‘B-B! …. B-B! …. B-B!’—over and over again, very slowly, with a long pause between the first ‘B’ and the second—a heavy murmurous sound, somehow curiously savage, in the background of which one seemed to hear the stamps of naked feet and the throbbing of tom-toms. For perhaps as much as thirty seconds they kept it up. It was a refrain that was often heard in moments of overwhelming emotion. Partly it was a sort of hymn to the wisdom and majesty of Big Brother, but still more it was an act of self-hypnosis, a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise

    O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA! O-BA-MA!

    Yeah, nothing wrong with playing videos of Thee One making inspirational speeches so the little children can learn what a non-threatening big brother kind of guy he is . . .

  • Patience

    The secretary of the Dept. of Education (Arne Duncan) was CEO of Chicago Public Schools and good friend of the POTUS before he joined the cabinet.

  • morris1030

    Grandma? Wee Wee? The condescension is sickening.

    Where’s the respect?

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