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It Ain’t About Black, It’s the Stupid.

Van Jones and his brain dead defenders are insisting that Mr. Jones was attacked because he was black. Horseshit!!

Will someone in the media ask just one basic question of Van Jones:

When did you renounce communism and the teachings of Lenin and Mao Tse Tung?

Let’s get to the heart of the matter. This is not just about some so-called brilliant Yale educated lawyer who did not have the basic common sense to read a petition he was signing. No. It is more.

When did you arrive at the conclusion that your efforts in setting up STORM were stupid and wrong headed?

When? Answer please.

And while we are at it let’s admit that the true racists are the White House. They gave the white boy, Timmy Geithner, a pass even though he is a tax cheat. But the black kid? They tossed his ass. Same treatment Obama gave to his precious pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

  • O-bot_NOT!

    Obama admits he sought out Marxist professors:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUsNMsrGycY

  • yttik

    Why would Obama hire this man knowing his history, knowing the controversy it would cause, and not plan to speak out in his defense?? Something just doesn’t smell right.

  • rochester

    The controversy here is about VJ’s radical past, but what’s completely missing is any review of his qualifications to be an environmental jobs advisor.

    I skimmed his book at Barnes and Noble this weekend, and it was a complete joke. The first several dozen pages had nothing to do with the environment. It was all about “white” businesses and polluters deliberately targeting blacks, and the horrible racism of White America as revealed during Katrina.

    The rest of the book showed Van to be a scientifically and economically illiterate intellectual nullity who clearly has no practical sense of how to create jobs. The worst part is that he completely dismisses the one proven area of large-scale clean energy–Nuclear Power–in a single sentence, not showing even the slightest familiarity with the benefits of nuclear energy. All around, it was a truly embarrassing book. We really ought to be scared that this is what Obama and Comrades consider to be a brilliant and innovative intellectual. Yuck.

  • proud mobster

    Why would Obama sit in a Church for 20 years where the Preacher hated this nation? When Obama has his pizza parties I bet he and his guests speak about how much they hate the rest of us. No wonder he needs a teleprompter–if not his hatred of this country would hang on him like a cheap suit.

    How many people like Van Jones are there in this administration? I bet plenty. You are known by the company you keep — that’s why Obama is now at 41% and Chavez is saying he has to help him.

  • wbboei

    Larry> I agree with your comments 100%. False charges of racism are the last bastion of scoundrels. They are a thinly veiled attempt to silence dissenting opinion. They substitue coersion for consensus. They undermine the deliberative process which is sine qua non for representative democracy.

  • O-bot_NOT!

    Obama re-interprets the Constitution as having “negative liberties” and “redistributive justice” and bringing about economic change:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTCNK7v3J6w

    What did O-bots expect?

  • wbboei

    Not everyone is wild about Huffpo wacko Sirota. This excerpt from Wikopedia tells the story. He is the kind of faux progressive I dislike for the reasons set forth below.
    —————————————
    Several prominent journalists and political analysts have been critical of Sirota’s writing.

    In his article comparing two approaches to progressive politics, Nate Silver described Sirota’s approach as “playing fast and loose with the truth and using some of the same demagogic precepts that the right wing does.”[19]

    Regarding Sirota’s political analysis and projections, including his predictions during the 2008 presidential election, Al Giordano described him as “an inverted compass: when Sirota says ‘heads,’ you can make a lot of money betting on ‘tails.’”[20]. And in its review of Sirota’s book, the Star-Ledger said its “search for a national uprising is somewhat out of focus.”[16]

    Sirota also came under some criticism upon his departure from the prominent progressive website Daily Kos with what is colloquially known as a “Goodbye Cruel World (GBCW)” diary[

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    By this ridiculous logic, we can now know for certain that any liberal who complained about Condie Rice buying shoes instead of responding to 9/11 was simply being a racist misogynist. Right? They were on a witch hunt against the first black woman Secretary of State, correct?

    I mean, geez. These cries of racism, primarily coming from white liberals, are seriously HURTING race relations and doing nothing but creating fear and paranoia for blacks who may unfortunately take these ridiculous race-baiting messages as signs that half of America hates them. It’s truly sad and disgusting.

  • rochester

    Sirota has a totalitarian mentality. Note the Stalinist thinking: voice disagreement with the party line and you are a “terrorist.” 80 years ago he would be part of the communist party, coldy sending off dissidents to the gulag. He has the exact same personality type.

  • janicen

    I’ve been wondering why Obama didn’t have the backbone to stand behind his appointment, but now that I have read what STORM is all about, I can’t believe that a founder of such an organization got that close to the White House. It’s hard for me to understand, in this day and age with all we know about Marxism and communism, how anybody could be so GD stupid as to support such philosophies.

  • AF catfish

    First – why does Obama insist on hiring EVERYBODY on the left who has influence? OK nevermind.

    Second – where was this famous Obama vetting process of filling out a form listing every single blog comment, anonymous or otherwise, you’d ever left in your entire life? It’s apparently this vetting process that is keeping Hillary from fully staffing the state department.

  • Fred

    Thanks for stating this point. I tried also to find some kind of science in Mr. Jones background and there isn’t any. He did not even have any in a law practice. And can we all just say that David Sirota is nuts?

  • http://syd4.blogspot.com/ SYD

    Van Jones has a long history of buying into conspiracy theories. He did so in 1998, for instance. Accusing Bill Clinton:

    http://syd4.blogspot.com/2009/09/remember-when-van-jones-accused-bill.html

    The fact that this man is anywheres near White House policy is…. well, it’s a joke. And not a very funny one.

    SYD

  • HARP

    Van Jones said “The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City,” on Sept13 2001.
    Keep in mind that Jones had to be referring to either the first Gulf War or no-fly-zone incidents, as the war to remove Saddam Hussein did not begin until 2003.

    One thing we don’t know is how aware of Jones’s “deserver” views Obama close left-hand adviser Valerie Jarrett was when she made this statement in mid-August:

    So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all that energy in the White House.

    Apparently she didn`t watch him close enough.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/09/07/van-jones-9-11-attacks-not-just-truther-deserver

  • HARP

    Obama czar’s vetting process:

    QUESTIONAIRE

    DO you like me? (pick one)

    YES…….NO

  • Arabella Trefoil

    How can Obots deal with facts that line up against Obama? Scientific research explains it all:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/08/science/08tier.html?ref=science

    When we contemplate contradictions in the rhetoric of the opposition party’s candidate, the rational centers of our brains are active, but contradictions from our own party’s candidate set off a different reaction: the emotional centers light up and levels of feel-good dopamine surge.

    With our rational faculties muted, sometimes the unwelcome evidence doesn’t even register, and sometimes we use marvelous logic to get around the facts.

    In reporting this story, Tierney uses the term “party” but he could just as well be speaking about an indiviual, especially an individual with a cult-like following like Obama. Obama’s followers are high on dopamine.

  • basil

    HARP,

    Following up on your post, here’s some more info on why Vojo might have resigned Saturday night.

    Hansen

    ‘I believe that Jones’s resignation may have been moved up by 12 hours or so. That’s because on Saturday evening, Scott Johnson at Powerline presented proof that roughly 40 hours after the 9/11 terrorist attacks occurred, avowed Communist Jones publicly declared that the U.S. deserved what happened. I’m not kidding.’

    Johnson wrote:

    Jones said: “The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City. The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at home requires justice abroad.”

    Need more proof? See NewsBusters.com for the screenshot.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    hahahahah

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    I also read that Obama is losing support from the white people in the polls. I suppose those people who once supported him are now racist….

  • Arabella Trefoil

    You know it, American Girl.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    i wonder how they are going to feel to find out they are now racist…
    hehe

  • tzada

    Jarertt is half Iranian. While Iran and Iraq may fight each other it is the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality.

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Excellent point!

  • Arabella Trefoil

    They’ll probably feel the way I do: that Obama has devalued the word “racist.” When I think of how much other people have suffered, and are still suffering from racial discrimination, Obama’s opportunism makes me ill.

    By the way, Obama has no slavery in his ancestry. Jesse Jones has bitched about this before.

  • Dawn

    Does the fact that blacks will be the last to jump off Obama’s bandwagon suggest that they are racist?

    I’ve just this second decided to start refusing to answer the race question in any questionaire etc…that I see.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    I don’t think that anyone implied this:

    Does the fact that blacks will be the last to jump off Obama’s bandwagon suggest that they are racist?

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Great post. And it would be great if some one had asked Jones “Which part of Marxism/communism was your favorite, the force, the complete removal of freedoms, or the murdering of an estimated 110 million people last century for not adapting to this system?” How could such a ‘smart’ guy EVER support such a atrocities?

    I have also seen many liberal bloggers wonder openly what is such the big deal with the outrage over Jones’ former support of communism. It is stunning to see their willingness to disregard communism’s atrocities.

  • beebop

    Focusing on what at the root issues I had with Van Jones are:

    1. A questioner asked him why Democrats are having trouble moving their initiatives through Congress while Republicans seemed to be more successful when they were in control. Rather than answer her question, he launched into an attack:

    “The answer to that is: They’re assholes. That’s a technical political science term. And Barack Obama’s not an asshole. I will say this, I can be an asshole. And some of us who are not Barack Hussein Obama are gonna have to start getting a little bit uppity.”

    That’s not a thoughtful answer to her question. That is a criticism of the Republican party. Oh, and by the way? Someone needs to nominate the questioner for “What Not to Wear” and then get her a date. She probably thinks she is a thoughtful, intelligent player in the political discourse. The fact that she accepted that answer is what is wrong with the Democratic party.

    2. His statements on “suburban white” kids and mass shootings are just as ridiculous coming out of his mouth as a white attorney with no experience with urban crime making a sweeping statement about black teen pregnancy or shootings, except that it is heartless and unnecessary and really displays his lack of empathy for the parents and victims of those incidents.

    3. His involvement with the administration is not simply the “green czar.” He was a very large part of crafting the “recovery package.” He is not some uninvolved, unpaid, out of the White House “brain.” He is very much on the inside. I am not sure that having no portfolio puts him outside. Don’t tell me there isn’t a lobbying firm happy to have him

  • beebop

    uh … I have something in the spam filter …. :)

  • kgirl1028

    This black person never jumped on it. Obama had zero experience to handle the mess that Bush was going to leave. After eight years of incompetence i wanted someone who knew what they were doing, and obama wasn’t it go fig.

  • Margaret

    Apparently the ‘czars’ don’t fill out that form, only appointees who require senate confirmation fill out that form

  • Linda Anselmi

    I saw this interview and was amazed at the twisted logic David Sirota presented. He’s a smarter man than that.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    If I’m not mistaken, I believe Obama’s mothers side of the family owned slaves.

  • eleana

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/07/obama-is-hiding-a-radical-past/
    Barack Obama has a long-term and sustained relationship with the Chicago DSA, an affiliate of the Democratic Socialists of America, and with the Chicago New Party. He participated in multiple membership meetings and in DSA-sponsored events, repeatedly sought their endorsement.

    http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/dsa_members.htm
    How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA? A:Seventy
    Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
    Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)
    Vice Chairs
    Diane Watson (CA-33)
    Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
    Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
    Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

    Senate Members
    Bernie Sanders (VT)

    House Members
    Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
    Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
    Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
    Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
    Robert Brady (PA-01)
    Corrine Brown (FL-03)
    Michael Capuano (MA-08)
    André Carson (IN-07)
    Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
    Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
    William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
    Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
    Steve Cohen (TN-09)
    John Conyers (MI-14)
    Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
    Danny Davis (IL-07)
    Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
    Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
    Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
    Keith Ellison (MN-05)
    Sam Farr (CA-17)
    Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
    Bob Filner (CA-51)
    Barney Frank (MA-04)
    Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
    Alan Grayson (FL-08)
    Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
    John Hall (NY-19)
    Phil Hare (IL-17)
    Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
    Michael Honda (CA-15)
    Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
    Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
    Hank Johnson (GA-04)
    Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
    Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
    Barbara Lee (CA-09)
    John Lewis (GA-05)
    David Loebsack (IA-02)
    Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
    Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
    Ed Markey (MA-07)
    Jim McDermott (WA-07)
    James McGovern (MA-03)
    George Miller (CA-07)
    Gwen Moore (WI-04)
    Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
    Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
    John Olver (MA-01)
    Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
    Donald Payne (NJ-10)
    Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
    Charles Rangel (NY-15)
    Laura Richardson (CA-37)
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
    Bobby Rush (IL-01)
    Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
    Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
    José Serrano (NY-16)
    Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
    Pete Stark (CA-13)
    Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
    John Tierney (MA-06)
    Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
    Maxine Waters (CA-35)
    Mel Watt (NC-12)
    Henry Waxman (CA-30)
    Peter Welch (VT-AL)
    Robert Wexler (FL-19)
    http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html…What is Democratic Socialism?

  • kgirl1028

    Oh yeah and i’ve never been bigoted but i have been partial. Yes i get that extra lump in my throat when i see someone that looks like me achieves something great like say Tiger Woods, but in clear cases of right and wrong I don’t give a rats behind what color you are. I am BS intolerent. S

    omeone needs to tell Van JOnes to stop mewling like baby (and that the nice version of what i want to call him). He screwed with Glen Beck and his sponsers and Beck bested him. No one did crap to him that he didn’t bring on himself or tried to do to Glen Beck. Prehaps if he had left Beck alone and respected his freedom of speech to say anything about his national leader that he choose to try to mess with Beck’s sponsorship. Now Van Jones is out of a job and trying to act like martyr as if he was not the one who picked the fight.

  • catherine

    Thank you Larry for being one of the few sane and honest voices still left.

    I am sooo fed up with the race card being used every time someone who just happens to be of color is exposed. How many whites, hispanics, asians etc get busted every day for something or other and you don’t hear their defenders claiming it was discrimination.

    I’m left to wonder if scum like Sirota (who by the way attacked Hillary viciously last year and even tried to blame her for the NAFTA note Obama embarrassment last year) is really that colossally stupid or if he understands full well the damage being done to race relations and wants that damage.

    It’s unbelievable! As a lifelong Dem I cannot tell you how much I despise the lefty radicals hijacking my party in order to push their agenda.

    It’s important and necessary for both republicans and democrats to make a commitment not to attack each other but to help one another expose and eliminate the extremist fringe in both parties. We may not agree on everything but at the end of the day we are Americans who love our country and our freedoms. Let’s not allow the far right and the far left to make this about rep vs dem and divide and rule over patriotic Americans.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Well said.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Oh gee, he continues his “community organizing” 101, playing the race card. Gee, who woulda’ thought?

    And now we know the media is intentionally covering Obama’s real agenda and policies, not reporting facts. I hope they start changing being he’s continuing his media lambasting if they dare ask a legitimate question.

    Obama,
    acted stupidly

  • http://! stodgie

    larry, thanks for the commentary. i can’t find any words to express my view any better than yours. what i might add is the thought that in my view the dimocrats will continue on their pathetic journey to the cliff and jump over with no thought to reality or loyalty to country first.

  • AF catfish

    Right on kgirl.

  • catherine

    Correct. Two of his ancestors were slave owners but NONE of his ancestors were ever slaves.

    NONE of Hillary’s ancestors were ever slave owners.

  • basil

    Bwahahahahahaha!

    Jerry is Baaaaaaack with his racist card!

    Question: So what do you think about the health care bill?

    WRIGHT: I think the racists in the right wing are upset because poor people are about to be helped.

  • don tufts

    so we have a president that is half kenyan black and half white radical from kansas and a cheif advisor who is half iranian and half radical black from chicago,the common theame being both come from radical parents.

  • tek

    Well, Arianna Huffington herself is a faux liberal, i. e. disgruntled Republican.

  • tek

    Oh, well, if he accused Bill Clinton wrongly then he’s no doubt one of Obama’s heroes. I’m still amazed when we talk to our college age children how vehemently they dislike Bill Clinton–they’re all ‘bots. Now, I see they are becoming confused. They are unhappy with stuff Obama’s doing, and they see he’s not too competent. They can’t understand how Bill Clinton could be such a “bad president” and have gotten the country in such good shape! An accomplishment Obama will never be able to achieve.

  • oowawa

    It Ain’t About Black, It’s the Stupid.

    Or, as one NQ poster quipped way back before the election:

    It’s not his pigmentation, it’s his pigmentality.

  • FrenchNail

    And Valerie Jarett was married to the son of Vernon Jarett, a devout communist and long time friend to Marshall Davis, Obama’s childhood mentor (and some allege Obama’s real biological father). Of him she said: “”We grew up together. We were friends since childhood. In a sense, he was the boy next door.”

    It’s all in the family!!!

  • candymarl

    Good grief. I want to help the poor, sick, and down trodden no matter their color. A poorly written health care bill will help none of those people.

    I thought Christianity was about love and forgiveness – even toward those that despise you.
    Guess not.

  • Sandy

    Funny you should bring up his book. I was asked at another blog if I read his book. This question was asked because I did not think he should have been working in the WH that close to the POTUS. I was also told he was not hired for his ideology, but because he is so brilliant, and he is entitled to his beliefs and free speech. True, we are guarenteed free speech, but my point was that if you are hired by the POTUS you should not be a self-proclaimed communist with such radical views. I can’t help but think, birds of a feather flock together.

  • TexasMirth

    As a former Democrat, I hope they do – and I hope they take the MSM with them.

  • NomNomNom

    Valerie Jarrett is not half Iranian.
    Valerie Jarrett is the daughter of 2 aa parents James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman. She was born in Iran.

  • TexasMirth

    I heard that, too. I had to smile. Wright is like a lamp that shines from time to time spotlighting Obama’s past. And Wright’s timing for this remark could not have been better imo. Remind us again, Reverend, that our president sat in your pews for 20 years while you spewed this vitriol.

  • yttik

    There’s still something about this whole thing that smells funny. There’s a cloak and dagger aroma. Who resigns in the middle of the night on a holiday weekend? Why would Obama hire this guy knowing the controversy his background would cause? Why would he let Beck call the shots? Obama’s not campaigning anymore, why did he toss this guy under the bus so easily? Is there more about Jones that we don’t know and his resignation was a way of avoiding further disclosures? Did Jones have a falling out with the president, perhaps confront him on his lack of progressive qualities, the discrepancy between his campaign rhetoric and his elected behavior? Did Jones accuse the president of being a fraud?

    It’s all speculation of course, I haven’t got a clue about what the real story is, but it just feels like there is so much not being said or asked.

  • NomNomNom

    because Beck and BHO are on the same team.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    How so?

  • tzada

    Here is an interesting article.

    Valerie Jarrett’s Show

    According to several White House sources, Jones was hired for his “green jobs czar” positions over concerns raised by the White House Counsel’s Office, after Jones’s background materials came back with several of what were termed “inconsistencies” in the Standard Form 86 Questionnaire for National Security Positions.

    http://spectator.org/archives/2009/09/08/valerie-jarretts-show

    I think that the FBI is telling the truth and that the WH is telling the story that they didn’t know.
    Beck tells the version that the WH is spinning out.
    To say he delibertly lied is something I cannot agree with. To make it appear he lied is something that the WH would like to do.

    Speaking about racism……..he is back with all his roasted chickens……um make that roosting chickens.

    Jeremiah Wright On Health Care:

    Racists In Rightwing Are Upset Because Poor People Are About to Be Helped (Video)

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/jeremiah-wright-on-health-care-racists.html

  • TexasMirth

    Is there more about Jones that we don’t know and his resignation was a way of avoiding further disclosures?

    I suspect there is. I also suspect Van Jones may have enough anger over this to turn on Obama publicly.That would make great theater. He’s already playing the martyr big-time. Hell hath no fury like a Marxist-revolutionary scorned…

  • Arabella Trefoil

    It’s just a question of time before Obama’s supporters turn on each other. Van Jones may be the first one who is “un-shut-up-able.”

    And so the landslide starts.

  • tango

    Isn’t this the second time that Rev. Wright has said something controversial at an inopportune time? I’m wondering if Rev. Wright is trying to throw BO under the bus in a roundabout way as payback?

  • Arabella Trefoil

    I’d love to think that this is true:

    I’m wondering if Rev. Wright is trying to throw BO under the bus in a roundabout way as payback?

    But I’m thinking that Rev. Wright is just stupid.

  • TexasMirth

    “un-shut-up-able” — Oh, I like that!

    AND NOW, LET THE LANDSLIDE BEGIN.

  • Objective Analysis

    This racism bit by white/black folks in the media and in power is getting OLD and tired especially when the person (Van Jones) is spewing hatred and racism from his own lips.

  • tango

    I hope. When the liberals start attacking each other then the dirt will come out.

    Though I expect Van Jones will keep his mouth shut since he’s looking for a job. I think the Axelrod knows where the bodies are buried and isn’t afraid to hold that over anyones head via surrogates. Remember if BO goes down as a fraud, he’s taking the careers of those closest to him down too. So they are just as motivated to keep it all secret.

  • Ani

    Truly. I think many of them are going to be shocked at being on the receiving end of the bullying and false racist meme we have all been subjected to this past year simply because we were smart enough to see through this vacuous media creation.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    I think this is already happening, but we aren’t seeing it yet in the blogs or (ha ha ah) in the media.

    Obama’s coalition is much more fragile than people know. People are reluctant to talk about black-on-black division.

  • Pennsylvania Caucasian

    speaking of Tiger Woods -
    this is really OT, but last nite the local PBS affiliate was running old Mike Douglas shows, and one of the guests was Tiger – at 4 years old!
    His dad was there too of course. They had a tee set up for little Tiger, and he was golfing, sort of. my god it was the cutest thing ever.

    Who could have guessed what a champion he’d grow up to be?

    OK that was my OT contribution.

  • Ani

    Catherine, your last paragraph says it all. I couldn’t agree more.

  • sowsear

    Yes. and I’m old and white, but I only watch golf when Tiger is playing in PGA tournaments or when Joey Sindelar (white) is playing on the Champions Tour. It has nothing to do with color.
    Isn’t it racist when a mulatto only recognizes that he is black?

  • Helen

    Van Jones would have been in place in this administration if Glenn Beck hadn’t spoken out – and took a lot of flak for doing so. How many others have been shoehorned in by Ayers, Axelrod and Emmanuel?

    I’m glad that we are hearing cries of racism from Rangel and all the others – I worked with blacks and minorities in the 60′s, and the strategy always was to fall back on charging racism when things weren’t going our way. I’m ashamed of being party to trashing some good people who were asking questions about our methods and goals. I’m glad to hear the charges of racism because they are exposing the emptiness of those cries. But I agree with the poster who says this really hurts blacks in the long run. It reinforces paranoia among blacks, and cynicism among whites. True racism doesn’t get addressed.

  • tzada

    Well don’t feel alone, some of us white people get a lump in our throat when someone other than a white achieves something good. :)

    When obama first came on the scene, I was elated. Then stuff started coming out about him….When the “tool” was elected,the knot in my throat turned into a knot of dread.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    did Rev. Wrong finish building his 2.5 million dollar home yet? I bet he knows a thing or two about being poor. Keep talking Jeremiah.

  • Peggy Sue

    So, I guess that’s why we need [or the Obama folks are searching for] a “behavioral science” czar.

    Gotta keep that trance alive.

    Creepy!

  • J.J. (The PUMA)

    I hated the peace and prosperity that Bill Clinton made us endure. Give me the promise of “Hope and Change” anytime.

  • sowsear

    If BO could sell that the Clintons are racists, he can sell almost anything. It is The Stupid. You’d think people would begin to wise up…

  • tzada

    You said it so well.

  • Ani

    I think it’s just more Kabuki theatre.

  • OxyCon

    Sirota is an asshole. Just using Van Jones’ standards…but in this case, no truer words could have been spoken.

  • tzada

    Sorry for not seeing your post, but sometimes between reading the posts on various sites others things get posted and I miss them. So I posted this too.

  • AF catfish

    Even SF Chronicle, who likes Van Jones, says today Obama should not have hired him. And they’re asking about Obama’s vetting process.

    Van Jones: Too Much Drama for Obama.

  • OxyCon

    Yeah there is more on Van Jones. Late last night it came out that he, like Rev Wright, said America deserved the 911 attack:

    Van Jones: On the 9/11 Attacks, Not Just a ‘Truther,’ But Also a ‘Deserver’

    Let’s repeat: “The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City.” - Van Jones

    Keep in mind that Jones had to be referring to either the first Gulf War or no-fly-zone incidents, as the war to remove Saddam Hussein did not begin until 2003.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/09/07/van-jones-9-11-attacks-not-just-truther-deserver

  • tzada

    Vetting Jones

    A White House official told me yesterday that Van

    Jones “was not as thoroughly vetted as other administration officials,” and specified to the Times that Jones “did not go through the traditional vetting process for administration officials who must be confirmed by the Senate.”

    But many, many officials, from relatively obscure advisers like Jones to the most powerful White House staffers, aren’t confirmed by the Senate, and the suggestion that serious vetting didn’t extend to Jones’s level has raised some eyebrows from past White House officials.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/Vetting_Jones.html

  • tzada

    “A White House official told me yesterday that
    Van ” They didn’t tell me, it escaped the quote block.

  • Patience

    Did Jones have a falling out with the president, perhaps confront him on his lack of progressive qualities, the discrepancy between his campaign rhetoric and his elected behavior?

    Maybe Jones bristled at being called a czar. After all, Marxists brought an end to czarist rule.

    Seriously though, just because Jones no longer has an official position as a WH czar, I don’t presume he no longer has a role. OR, maybe he’ll end up on AIG’s or Goldman Sach’s or GM’s or ACORN’s or SEIU’s payroll.

  • tzada

    Look at this stagecraft, talk about drama.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/08/obamateurism-of-the-day-113/

  • Sassy

    Fox did an interesting chart showing the non-coverage of this story by the other news outlets. Nobody touched it, even though Fox was hammering it and releasing new video for days!
    Now Van Jones can scream racism and plenty of people will choose to suck it up like thirsty camels!

  • candymarl

    Thanks Nom. There is enough valid criticism without resorting to misinformation.

  • susan h

    Mr. Van Jones held a vigil on 9/12/01, the day after our historic 9/11 and sympathized with muslims against what he termed “American Imperialism”. For this reason alone, I am glad he is gone.

    RE: VETTING, this WH does not like Vetting, as Mr. Obama himself was never vetted and so they just figure it worked before, it will work again. Thanks to FOX News for staying on this story.

  • tzada

    Obama’s problems with the far left

    This Wall Street Journal editorial hits the nail on the head when it comes to why President Obama is in danger from his own left wing and offers an explanation for why the president is relying on so many czars to consolidate his power in the White House.

    Basically, Jones was apparently one of many sops the president has tossed to the far left in the form of appointing “movement progressives” whose radical views can be hidden because they don’t need senate confirmation.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/obamas_problems_with_the_far_l.html

    Personally I think he had him around because that’s what he likes. Radicals. In his own words he said he sought them out.

  • Sandy

    Thank You, I have been wondering the very same thing. I do not want to visit blogs that can overlook such inhumanities.

  • basil

    See the announcement below for the 9/12 van jones event.

    A recurring theme of the speakers was the brutal violence committed by or supported by the United States government on a daily basis. “The bombs the government drops in Iraq are the bombs that blew up in New York City,” said Van Jones, director of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, who also warned against forthcoming violence by the Bush Administration. “The US cannot bomb its way out of this one. Safety at home requires justice abroad.”

    Emergency Action Against Racism and War (Oakland)
    by gkt
    Thursday Sep 13th, 2001 2:38 AM
    One summary of tonight’s rally in oakland

    Community Gathers in Oakland to Mourn and Organize Against Racist Violence Committed by US Government
    Oakland, CA (September 13) – Hundreds of people gathered at Snow Park in Oakland tonight to mourn, provide support for each other, and speak out against violent United States policies at home and abroad, which they say are the underlying reasons for unprecedented terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington DC. Organizing against a growing climate of racism, nationalism and anti-Arab bigotry was a focus of the rally.

  • Lana

    Exactly, candymarl! I’m a little sensitive these days because I keep getting attacked by a family member and her like-minded friends because I keep pointing out sections of the bill that are poorly written and seem to do the opposite of what we would want a health care plan to do. I’m told I’m misinterpreting (how are they so sure I’m the one misinterpreting???) and now I’ve been labeled a hater (can’t ask questions doncha know.) Of course I believe that every man, women and child in this country should have health care. I want a bill written in crisp clear language that the millions of people it matters to will be able to understand–including patients, doctors, billing departments, hospital administrators, etc. We all need to understand it the same way. And it can’t –like Cash for Clunkers–cost 3 times what we think it will, or even what it costs now.

  • Docelder

    Yes, he has the Yale degree and he wrote a book. Sounds eerily familiar doesn’t it? As if the degree in law and a book imparted some kind of a universal knowledge… which we all know is horse hockey. Actually most everybody knows that much. But this only makes sense if green jobs wasn’t the end game. If green jobs is just the vehicle to some kind of a larger agenda… then maybe he was perfect for the task. In this administration where stimulus isn’t really about the economy… then it makes sense that green jobs aren’t about either jobs or the environment. Nothing is as it seems with this administration. Pay no attention to what is said, but only to what is done. Then reverse engineer the things that are done. This is the only way to know what is happening.

  • Animal Control

    Is she a Natural Born Iranian?

  • Animal Control

    In other words, the White House is incompetent.

  • Karma

    I remember seeing both Tiger and the Williams sisters as children and rooting for them then. Knowing that they were all subject to becoming great outside the normal venues because of their skin color.

    Most people I know get that same lump in their throats when seeing them all play.

    If anything not being able to root for them shows more racism than not supporting the president. As you have stated it was Obama’s lack of experience that was the main probelm and still is. While both Tiger and the Williams sisters prove their skills and hard work daily.

  • Onofre’s arm

    If Obama were truly upset about the not-so-secret revelations that VJ is an America hating Marxist, he would have immediately dismissed him.

    Van Jones is an Obama clone, their philosophies, racism, bitterness, and class envy are identical. Obama’s administration is filled with such individuals. They are the neo-Marxists like Ayers and Wright, but most of them have managed to keep their warped ideals somewhat concealed. But, like Ayers and Wright, Van Jones was not able to keep his mouth shut, and his arrogance caused him to openly describe and promote the destruction of American values and the free market. Once Jones’ true nature was rather easily revealed, he became innefective, like a spy whose identity is revealed. He had to be let go. I have absolutely NO doubt though that Obama has a remarkably parallel weltanschauung to Van Jones, but with the aid of the MSM and an amazing scrubbing machine, the majority of HIS past is not available. Nevertheless, in many unguarded momments, Obama has let slip his core beliefs, but a lazy and incurious electorate chose not to look through those windows to his soul. They greedily grabbed the biggest, shiniest present under the tree, and have yet to open it, and find out that it’s a box filled with shit.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    It depends on which birth certificate she’s using.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    Well, only his Great-Granddaddy, an Arab slave trader.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    I have always answered “Caucasian” but it always bothered me that the question was even asked…since supposedly it doesn’t matter. Sol I’m with you Dawn. From now on, I will mark “decline to answer”.

  • b mathews

    since AA’s only make up 14% of the population here and more than 50% of americans voted for obama how can they call us racist? its getting old and tiresome and will just serve to make many turn against this WH. you can only play the race card just so often (like the boy who cried wolf) it will fast become meaningless. its NOT his color but his incompetence. the WH has turned a blind eye to public opinion and has literally thumbed their noses at us.(as we will do to them in the next election) btw..glen beck was supposed to do a show about obamas private army but it didnt happen (yet). has someone gotten to him? i wouldnt be surprised. this hasnt had any real coverage yet but is the most frightening of all of obamas agendas. we need to stay vigilant!!!!

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    The fact that she accepted that answer is what is wrong with the Democratic party.

    Yes, and she along with the rest of the clones in the room, erupted with gleeful laughing. They just loved it that he got down with them.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    And on the other hand, I wept, literally with tears streaming down my cheeks, when Nancy Pelosi was installed as Speaker of the House. Now I weep every time she opens her mouth…and it would be the same if she was black.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    This, from the rabid racist ranter who lives in a million + dollar mansion. Money made on the backs of the Chicago poor. Oh, wait. That’s Obama too.

  • lphillips

    Most forms look like this:

    Choose:
    Asian-American
    African-American
    Native-American
    Hispanic
    .
    .
    .
    White

    Supposing that ‘white’ is European, why aren’t we called ‘European Americans?

    My family is from Germany, Scotland, and England if I go back to Civil War times. I’m sure most every European country would be represented if I went back far enough.

    Why are my roots not important?

    I have for years, as my own little form of protest, written in European-American on the forms, or other. I never check ‘white’. ‘White’ doesn’t even make sense on the list.

  • Lisabona

    Actually he told, as I read, that he accepted Yale, because, no matter what, he will graduate. So, have your conclusion how ” intellectual” is he.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    The comments on the editorial are interesting. I’d say about 5 to 1 against Jones. Certainly doesn’t mimic the letters to the editor they publish…most are left wing Dims. I won’t pay for a subscription any more but do sometimes just check the Chron online. Always disheartening.

  • Tammy

    I’m on board with that!

  • Tammy

    Damn, that’s good. I’ve got to remember that quote!
    Thanks, oowawa.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    does anything smell right with bo.no stinks to high heaven

  • Tammy

    Another Van Jones secret:

    He produced hate music. I thought I posted this here before, but you should listen to this.

    If there are more people like Jones in the White House, they need to be removed. NOW.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gRi1xoeLno

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    i wrote it down thats good

  • politicsisdirty

    The White House, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC and their Obama worhipping pundits…….they are all pathetic. They think that majority of American people are stupid.

    Hope we have more patriots like Glenn Beck.

  • requiredreading

    If you get a chance, read Darkness at Noon, by a former communist (Koestler) — it is a stinging indictment of Stalinism. The point in the book (to respond to Sonic’s questions of “How could such a smart guy ever support such atrocities”) is that communists believe that historical movements are more important than individual fates. So to them, atrocities that result in the death of certain individuals or certain social classes are justifiable if they “move history forward.” This is why I find Rahm Emmanuel’s brother’s “reaper curve” so disturbing — the idea that it is better to get rid of the Hippocratic oath of saving all individual lives and direct medical resources to certain (young) groups of the population. Also, some teachers’ manuals in Russia today are saying that Stalin’s atrocities were justified by the fact that he was an excellent “manager” who modernized the Soviet Union — i.e., that the murders he carried out were legitimate because they were necessary to modernize the USSR. It’s History vs. the Individual and that’s what scares me about these communist-types showing up in the U.S. and making this kind of stuff sound “normal.” Lenin was supposed to be “brilliant” and this is exactly the kind of mentality he promoted.

  • Animal Control

    Lenin or Stalin?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Valerie Jarett was married to the son of Vernon Jarett, a devout communist and long time friend to Marshall Davis.

    French Nail, thanks for the toid. You said “was”?

  • TeakWoodKite

    The sameway many of us felt being called one, only they are still perpetuating “the white guilt” thing and are especially vunerable to be called hypocretins.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    What were they doing in Iran? Was that during the Shah’s reign?

  • Ferd Berfle

    The title says it all. Thanks for saying it like it is, Larry.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    Comrade Honey squeals “Handing out draft cards to brown folks”…30 years behind the times on that one sweetie. What a bunch of dreck. Sounds more like Soviet era golden oldies.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    Oh, yes and every evil in the universe is the white man’s fault…quite representative of Vanny’s racist philosophy.

  • ladydawnelle

    LOL indeed!

    What the HELL happened? (besides W then the flipside version) I mean rrrrrreally? Not that much homework was required to figure out just how inadequate BHO would be as Pretzeldent! Hillary made quite the case! Too bad not ENOUGH listened. Too bad Axelrove started slashing Hillary’s chances more than a year before the primaries with that BIG BROTHER AD!

    The sleeping masses had NO idea. All they cared about is they wanted NO MORE republican control. Now they have THIS. sigh. Can’t win for losing.

  • bart

    “White” simply means “null,” “baseline” or “generic.”

    Boring, no culture and no cool.

    Naturally, I’m white, myself. And my theme music is “White and Nerdy” from Weird Al . .

    We all like polka, Barry Manilow, Wonder Bread and . . .

    Whatever. I’m sure you all can fill in the blank.

    Sorry. needed to vent.

  • requiredreading

    Sorry – I got confusing there at the end. Lenin was supposed to be the brilliant one (Western scholars like to say “he was brilliant but often wrong”). He’s the one who put the whole system in place. Stalin was just excellent at playing people off against each other and creating a cult of personality that allowed him to control the police forces and the population at large. Lenin wasn’t adverse to killing off people (e.g. the bourgeoisie) in the “name of history,” but it was Stalin who carried the theory to the extreme…..Darkness at Noon is about both Lenin and Stalin and the results of putting “History” before the individual.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I’m told I’m misinterpreting (how are they so sure I’m the one misinterpreting???) and now I’ve been labeled a hater

    Don’t leave out, “Those are rebuplican talking points”, which my sanehalf throws at me. I say BS, common sense id not required to dictate talking points for the masses.

    How many programs the Fed runs are under budget?
    And do not mean under funded like the John Walsh effort that was signed into law for a national database of cretins who pray on our children…Do we add BO to that list?

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Thanks!! I’m always looking for good reading material. I’ve put it on my list.

  • maryanne

    wrong again. there is a reason that you people keep tagging everything and everyone associated with Obama – think about it.

  • OMG

    :lol: They do not want to know what’s in the shiny package. They are scared to look because they still cling to their illusions and Hope. Like children on Christmas Eve who want to believe in Santa and suspect he isn’t real but do not want to know the inevitable truth. The fantasy lives on for many a hopeful, die hard Obamaniacs.
    How long do we have to repeat ourselves? Yes, his associations are everything that America stands to defeat…at least it has been since the beginning. The best that the Obamaniacs can do is blame it all on the Republicans. (the worst is playing the ‘poor me victim’ racist card) How sad and lame. :sad:

  • JJ

    What’s wrong with wanting a complete criminal investigation of the events of 9/11? We had one after the Oklahoma City bombing. Interesting that the Bush administration announced immediately after the 9/11 events that “Bin laden did it”. Did he?

  • trixta

    Just like we “tagged” his evil twin GWB? Think about that.

  • Katmoon

    there is that pesky reference again;

    there is a reason that you people

    looks like that perception you are implying is better placed on yourself.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Six people on a deserted island are missing a castaway i d i o t.

  • TeakWoodKite

    maryanne, I’m a Brother from Another Planet

    tagging everyting insight BO.

  • susan

    Larry, love you, love your site, but I really miss susanunpc’s input! Where the heck is she???

  • Onofre’s arm

    How come you didn’t note the party of each individual? Do any of these clods have an “R” after their names?

  • Thinker

    I was kinda worried about going home this weekend. Being known as “one of Hillary’s girls” in a Black family that loves Obama isn’t easy.

    …But there was this eerie silence about Obama and Van Jones.

    Surprisingly, no one wanted to talk politics this past weekend.

    I was just happy to be with my family and we all had a good time.

    There was a moment in the car with my mom though. Tom Joyner & friends said that the whole Van Jones situation was about racism.

    I was waiting for my mother to ask if I agreed, but she didn’t.

    I talked to a cousin that I had fallen out with when Obama got the nomination – for the first time in a year, and even she didn’t try to talk to me about Obama or Van Jones.

    I can’t tell if it’s because they are starting to have quiet doubts about Obama, or if it’s because they love me and just didn’t feel like arguing with me.

    The Obama bobblehead doll on my Grandma’s dresser was kind of funny.

  • requiredreading

    Sonic – please let me know what you think! It’s a novel from the point of view of one man who was an ardent Leninist, jailed under Stalin, and coming to terms with his own misguided view of history now that he is confronted with his own death. The last chapter is entitled “The Grammatical Fiction” – that is, about the pronoun “I” – which communists shun in favor of the collective “we.” I think it’s pretty powerful, especially since liberal democracy focuses on individual rights and liberties and given the seeming ascendency of Obama’s “van Joneses.”

  • requiredreading

    Maybe Stevie Nicks could write a new version, based on a former Obama supporter singing to him/herself:

    “Now I’ve been supporting changes,
    Since I built my life around you.
    But time makes us bolder, even children get older, and I’m gettin’ older too; yes, I’m gettin’ older too…

    Took my love, took it down.
    Climbed a mountain and I turned around.
    And I saw my reflection in your
    Fake-Smile face,
    ’til the Landslide brought it down.
    Yes, I saw my reflection in your
    Fake-Smile face,
    ’til the Landslide brought it down….

  • Katmoon

    Excellent rendition requiredreading! :0)

  • Patience

    Some POTUS supporters are complaining that he’s spineless for jettisoning Van Jones, that he’s spineless for failing to promote universal healthcare, etc. As has been noted here by others, there’ve even been comments on DK wondering if HRC would’ve been the better choice.

    So maybe your family is disappointed in him for similar reasons and didn’t want to allow you the opportunity to say “I Told You So”. Most people are loathe to admit they’re wrong!

  • http://www.homestudioessentials.com/ A-Nony-Mouse

    This is nothing more than modern day McCartheyism. Except now it’s Glenn Beckism. All of you running after Van Jones with your pitchforks out will be looked upon with great scorn by history.

  • requiredreading

    Thank you Katmoon :) It’s the first time I’ve “sung” in public…..

  • Wisewoman

    matthew. I am AA and I find it appalling and arrogant of the Obama fans to specifically call the Clintons racist and whites in general racist. As to the percentages of AAs. You must break it down further. If we are 14% of the population that includes men, women and children. Lets estimate that 1/2 are children who are not old enough to vote. That leaves 7%. Since incarcerated people and felons can not vote lets estimate that leaves 6% eligible voters. Since no race has a 100% voting participation so lets say 50 to 70% actually voted on voting day. Even if all AAs voted for Obama (they did not) that is a voting percentage of about 3 to 4% AA. Obama’s black vote was about 3 to 4%. Whites puts Obama in office so how can they be labelled racist? This is what I tell my educated, degreed family members. They seem stunned to wrestle with this dichomy that without overwhelming white votes Obama would not be president. I tell them to stop wearing their “WE DID IT” T-Shirts.

  • Wisewoman

    thinker. I know the feeling. As a Hillary supporter, I am one of the 5% AA who did not vote for “the One” because I knew he was not ready or qualified for the job. Its hard being only 2 out of 10 brothers and sisters who seem to worship him. They still have not awaken from their stupor and I don’t think they ever will. They have just stop trying to convince me that they are right.

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