Comments on: It Ain’t About Black, It’s the Stupid. http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253144 Wisewoman Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:08:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253144 thinker. I know the feeling. As a Hillary supporter, I am one of the 5% AA who did not vote for "the One" because I knew he was not ready or qualified for the job. Its hard being only 2 out of 10 brothers and sisters who seem to worship him. They still have not awaken from their stupor and I don't think they ever will. They have just stop trying to convince me that they are right. thinker. I know the feeling. As a Hillary supporter, I am one of the 5% AA who did not vote for “the One” because I knew he was not ready or qualified for the job. Its hard being only 2 out of 10 brothers and sisters who seem to worship him. They still have not awaken from their stupor and I don’t think they ever will. They have just stop trying to convince me that they are right.

]]> By: Wisewoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253141 Wisewoman Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:01:47 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253141 matthew. I am AA and I find it appalling and arrogant of the Obama fans to specifically call the Clintons racist and whites in general racist. As to the percentages of AAs. You must break it down further. If we are 14% of the population that includes men, women and children. Lets estimate that 1/2 are children who are not old enough to vote. That leaves 7%. Since incarcerated people and felons can not vote lets estimate that leaves 6% eligible voters. Since no race has a 100% voting participation so lets say 50 to 70% actually voted on voting day. Even if all AAs voted for Obama (they did not) that is a voting percentage of about 3 to 4% AA. Obama's black vote was about 3 to 4%. Whites puts Obama in office so how can they be labelled racist? This is what I tell my educated, degreed family members. They seem stunned to wrestle with this dichomy that without overwhelming white votes Obama would not be president. I tell them to stop wearing their "WE DID IT" T-Shirts. matthew. I am AA and I find it appalling and arrogant of the Obama fans to specifically call the Clintons racist and whites in general racist. As to the percentages of AAs. You must break it down further. If we are 14% of the population that includes men, women and children. Lets estimate that 1/2 are children who are not old enough to vote. That leaves 7%. Since incarcerated people and felons can not vote lets estimate that leaves 6% eligible voters. Since no race has a 100% voting participation so lets say 50 to 70% actually voted on voting day. Even if all AAs voted for Obama (they did not) that is a voting percentage of about 3 to 4% AA. Obama’s black vote was about 3 to 4%. Whites puts Obama in office so how can they be labelled racist? This is what I tell my educated, degreed family members. They seem stunned to wrestle with this dichomy that without overwhelming white votes Obama would not be president. I tell them to stop wearing their “WE DID IT” T-Shirts.

]]> By: requiredreading http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253099 requiredreading Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:44:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253099 Thank you Katmoon :) It's the first time I've "sung" in public..... Thank you Katmoon :) It’s the first time I’ve “sung” in public…..

]]> By: A-Nony-Mouse http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253056 A-Nony-Mouse Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:59:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253056 This is nothing more than modern day McCartheyism. Except now it's Glenn Beckism. All of you running after Van Jones with your pitchforks out will be looked upon with great scorn by history. This is nothing more than modern day McCartheyism. Except now it’s Glenn Beckism. All of you running after Van Jones with your pitchforks out will be looked upon with great scorn by history.

]]> By: Patience http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253046 Patience Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:30:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253046 Some POTUS supporters are complaining that he's spineless for jettisoning Van Jones, that he's spineless for failing to promote universal healthcare, etc. As has been noted here by others, there've even been comments on DK wondering if HRC would've been the better choice. So maybe your family is disappointed in him for similar reasons and didn't want to allow you the opportunity to say "I Told You So". Most people are loathe to admit they're wrong! Some POTUS supporters are complaining that he’s spineless for jettisoning Van Jones, that he’s spineless for failing to promote universal healthcare, etc. As has been noted here by others, there’ve even been comments on DK wondering if HRC would’ve been the better choice.

So maybe your family is disappointed in him for similar reasons and didn’t want to allow you the opportunity to say “I Told You So”. Most people are loathe to admit they’re wrong!

]]> By: Katmoon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253038 Katmoon Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:12:23 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253038 Excellent rendition requiredreading! :0) Excellent rendition requiredreading! :0)

]]> By: requiredreading http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253021 requiredreading Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:10:28 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253021 Maybe Stevie Nicks could write a new version, based on a former Obama supporter singing to him/herself: "Now I've been supporting changes, Since I built my life around you. But time makes us bolder, even children get older, and I'm gettin' older too; yes, I'm gettin' older too... Took my love, took it down. Climbed a mountain and I turned around. And I saw my reflection in your Fake-Smile face, 'til the Landslide brought it down. Yes, I saw my reflection in your Fake-Smile face, 'til the Landslide brought it down.... Maybe Stevie Nicks could write a new version, based on a former Obama supporter singing to him/herself:

“Now I’ve been supporting changes,
Since I built my life around you.
But time makes us bolder, even children get older, and I’m gettin’ older too; yes, I’m gettin’ older too…

Took my love, took it down.
Climbed a mountain and I turned around.
And I saw my reflection in your
Fake-Smile face,
’til the Landslide brought it down.
Yes, I saw my reflection in your
Fake-Smile face,
’til the Landslide brought it down….

]]> By: requiredreading http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1253019 requiredreading Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:03:16 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1253019 Sonic - please let me know what you think! It's a novel from the point of view of one man who was an ardent Leninist, jailed under Stalin, and coming to terms with his own misguided view of history now that he is confronted with his own death. The last chapter is entitled "The Grammatical Fiction" - that is, about the pronoun "I" - which communists shun in favor of the collective "we." I think it's pretty powerful, especially since liberal democracy focuses on individual rights and liberties and given the seeming ascendency of Obama's "van Joneses." Sonic – please let me know what you think! It’s a novel from the point of view of one man who was an ardent Leninist, jailed under Stalin, and coming to terms with his own misguided view of history now that he is confronted with his own death. The last chapter is entitled “The Grammatical Fiction” – that is, about the pronoun “I” – which communists shun in favor of the collective “we.” I think it’s pretty powerful, especially since liberal democracy focuses on individual rights and liberties and given the seeming ascendency of Obama’s “van Joneses.”

]]> By: Thinker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252964 Thinker Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:25:56 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252964 I was kinda worried about going home this weekend. Being known as "one of Hillary's girls" in a Black family that loves Obama isn't easy. ...But there was this eerie silence about Obama and Van Jones. Surprisingly, no one wanted to talk politics this past weekend. I was just happy to be with my family and we all had a good time. There was a moment in the car with my mom though. Tom Joyner & friends said that the whole Van Jones situation was about racism. I was waiting for my mother to ask if I agreed, but she didn't. I talked to a cousin that I had fallen out with when Obama got the nomination - for the first time in a year, and even she didn't try to talk to me about Obama or Van Jones. I can't tell if it's because they are starting to have quiet doubts about Obama, or if it's because they love me and just didn't feel like arguing with me. The Obama bobblehead doll on my Grandma's dresser was kind of funny. I was kinda worried about going home this weekend. Being known as “one of Hillary’s girls” in a Black family that loves Obama isn’t easy.

…But there was this eerie silence about Obama and Van Jones.

Surprisingly, no one wanted to talk politics this past weekend.

I was just happy to be with my family and we all had a good time.

There was a moment in the car with my mom though. Tom Joyner & friends said that the whole Van Jones situation was about racism.

I was waiting for my mother to ask if I agreed, but she didn’t.

I talked to a cousin that I had fallen out with when Obama got the nomination – for the first time in a year, and even she didn’t try to talk to me about Obama or Van Jones.

I can’t tell if it’s because they are starting to have quiet doubts about Obama, or if it’s because they love me and just didn’t feel like arguing with me.

The Obama bobblehead doll on my Grandma’s dresser was kind of funny.

]]> By: Onofre's arm http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252961 Onofre's arm Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:18:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252961 How come you didn't note the party of each individual? Do any of these clods have an "R" after their names? How come you didn’t note the party of each individual? Do any of these clods have an “R” after their names?

]]> By: susan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252959 susan Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:01:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252959 Larry, love you, love your site, but I really miss susanunpc's input! Where the heck is she??? Larry, love you, love your site, but I really miss susanunpc’s input! Where the heck is she???

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252957 TeakWoodKite Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:48:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252957 maryanne, I'm a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBG140hMCu8" rel="nofollow">Brother from Another Planet</a> tagging everyting insight BO. maryanne, I’m a Brother from Another Planet

tagging everyting insight BO.

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252955 Ferd Berfle Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:35:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252955 Six people on a deserted island are missing a castaway i d i o t. Six people on a deserted island are missing a castaway i d i o t.

]]> By: Katmoon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252953 Katmoon Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:33:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252953 there is that pesky reference again;<blockquote>there is a reason that <em>you </em><strong></strong><strong>people</strong><em></em></blockquote> looks like that perception you are implying is better placed on yourself. there is that pesky reference again;
there is a reason that you people

looks like that perception you are implying is better placed on yourself.

]]> By: trixta http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/31962/a-simple-question-to-van-jones/#comment-1252950 trixta Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:26:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=31962#comment-1252950 Just like we "tagged" his evil twin GWB? Think about that. Just like we “tagged” his evil twin GWB? Think about that.

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