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Obama Supporter Camille Paglia Roasts President and Dem Leadership Over a Spit…

Camille Paglia’s article in Salon, Too late for Obama to turn it around? is a scathing assessment which drips disappointment and dare I say it, a sense of betrayal. Most surprising is that eight months after Obama’s inauguration, this accomplished writer has arrived at the same place most of us were 18 months ago when looking at the Obama hopium. The only surprise is that a woman as savvy as Ms. Paglia would have been taken in by the sales pitch of his campaign in the first place. She begins:

What a difference a month makes! When my last controversial column posted on Salon in the second week of August, most Democrats seemed frozen in suspended animation, not daring to criticize the Obama administration’s bungling of healthcare reform lest it give aid and comfort to the GOP. Well, that ice dam sure broke with a roar. Dissident Democrats found their voices, and by late August even the liberal lemmings of the mainstream media, from CBS to CNN, had drastically altered their tone of reportage, from priggish disdain of the town hall insurgency to frank admission of serious problems in the healthcare bills as well as of Obama’s declining national support.

…As an Obama supporter and contributor, I am outraged at the slowness with which the standing army of Democratic consultants and commentators publicly expressed discontent with the administration’s strategic missteps this year. … from week one after the inauguration, when Obama went flat as a rug in letting Congress pass that obscenely bloated stimulus package. Had more Democrats protested, the administration would have felt less arrogantly emboldened to jam through a cap-and-trade bill whose costs have made it virtually impossible for an alarmed public to accept the gargantuan expenses of national healthcare reform. (Who is naive enough to believe that Obama’s plan would be deficit-neutral? Or that major cuts could be achieved without drastic rationing?)

Due respect to Ms. Paglia, she might ask herself why she bought into any of this before the election. We did not. Their disastrous spending plans: using the cover of the economic crisis to push through pet projects under the phony label of stimulus, offering bailouts of Wall St., not Main Street. People are without jobs, losing their homes and they are playing games with our money? Most readers at NQ sensed where Obama’s allegiance would be 18 months ago. I find precious little satisfaction in yet another prominent Obama supporter expressing disgust. The stakes are too high and we are now stuck.

I am grateful, however, that a respected voice is calling the arrogant Dem leadership out on its despicable characterizations of American citizens, who are rightfully outraged at this mess:

By foolishly trying to reduce all objections to healthcare reform to the malevolence of obstructionist Republicans, Democrats have managed to destroy the national coalition that elected Obama and that is unlikely to be repaired. If Obama fails to win reelection, let the blame be first laid at the door of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, who at a pivotal point threw gasoline on the flames by comparing angry American citizens to Nazis.

Pelosi needs to lose her seat for that one. Disgraceful.

Paglia seems to think Obama might turn it around with a great speech, but wonders if too much damage has already been done. She has written the Dems off is 2012, unless Republicans nominate someone dead from the neck up – entirely possible. Paglia says she “has been calling for heads to roll at the White House from the get-go”:

…Thankfully, they do seem to be falling faster — as witness the middle-of-the-night bum’s rush given to “green jobs” czar Van Jones last week — but there’s a long way to go. An example of the provincial amateurism of current White House operations was the way the president’s innocuous back-to-school pep talk got sandbagged by imbecilic support materials soliciting students to write fantasy letters to “help” the president (a coercive directive quickly withdrawn under pressure). Even worse, the entire project was stupidly scheduled to conflict with the busy opening days of class this week, when harried teachers already have their hands full. Comically, some major school districts, including New York City, were not even open yet. And this is the gang who wants to revamp national healthcare?

Why did it take so long for Democrats to realize that this year’s tea party and town hall uprisings were a genuine barometer of widespread public discontent and not simply a staged scenario by kooks and conspirators?

Ms. Paglia still betrays a trusting naiveté here, thinking that Democrats were too insulated to know the protests were genuine. Not so. The Obama Administration simply continued the same techniques of the Obama campaign – demonize any opponents in order to silence them. She acknowledges that network and cable TV are not the central forums for debate any longer. They just play out more junk politics, backing their respective brands. Ms. Paglia notes…

…the truly transformative political energy is coming from talk radio and the Web — both of which Democrat-sponsored proposals have threatened to stifle, in defiance of freedom of speech guarantees in the Bill of Rights. …[O]n talk radio, which I have resumed monitoring around the clock because of the healthcare fiasco … I heard the passionate voices of callers coming directly from the town hall meetings. Hence I was alerted to the depth and intensity of national sentiment long before others who were simply watching staged, manipulated TV shows.

While she concludes her column giving the Republicans some well deserved slaps as well (and I encourage you to read the rest of her piece for yourself), most of it is devoted to pointing out Democratic Party arrogance. This is what the Clinton wing of the party, cruelly cast aside along with Hillary after the primaries, have noted as well. Ms. Paglia asks questions many here would find familiar:

Why has the Democratic Party become so arrogantly detached from ordinary Americans? Though they claim to speak for the poor and dispossessed, Democrats have increasingly become the party of an upper-middle-class professional elite, top-heavy with journalists, academics and lawyers (one reason for the hypocritical absence of tort reform in the healthcare bills). Weirdly, given their worship of highly individualistic, secularized self-actualization, such professionals are as a whole amazingly credulous these days about big-government solutions to every social problem. They see no danger in expanding government authority and intrusive, wasteful bureaucracy. This is, I submit, a stunning turn away from the anti-authority and anti-establishment principles of authentic 1960s leftism.

But affluent middle-class Democrats now seem to be complacently servile toward authority and automatically believe everything party leaders tell them. …Independent thought and logical analysis of argument are no longer taught. Elite education in the U.S. has become a frenetic assembly line of competitive college application to schools where ideological brainwashing is so pandemic that it’s invisible.

If any of Obama’s supporters had been capable of critical thought last year, they would have seen through his ridiculous promises and contradictory policy statements and had the sense to turn away. As this article is a prelude to President Obama’s big speech on healthcare this evening, Ms. Paglia’s next comments reveal the shortcomings of a compliant media and congress…

Throughout this fractious summer, I was dismayed not just at the self-defeating silence of Democrats at the gaping holes or evasions in the healthcare bills but also at the fogginess or insipidity of articles and Op-Eds about the controversy emanating from liberal mainstream media and Web sources. By a proportion of something like 10-to-1, negative articles by conservatives were vastly more detailed, specific and practical about the proposals than were supportive articles by Democrats, which often made gestures rather than arguments and brimmed with emotion and sneers. There was a glaring inability in most Democratic commentary to think ahead and forecast what would or could be the actual snarled consequences — in terms of delays, denial of services, errors, miscommunications and gross invasions of privacy — of a massive single-payer overhaul of the healthcare system in a nation as large and populous as ours. It was as if Democrats live in a utopian dream world, divorced from the daily demands and realities of organization and management.

Yes, the party in power does seem oddly divorced from reality as if wishing at the foot of President Obama’s HOPE poster would make their rosy predictions about the effects of their reckless leglislation come true. This past week, other columnists have pointed out that dissent and disagreement are a value to any President. Blank stares and idol worship will not make this Administration better. For the sake of our country, it would be refreshing change indeed if someone in the White House showed actual concern for the needs of Americans and went back to doing the people’s business. I think that may only happen if left, right and center keep speaking out and keep the pressure on. Only fear of the voters might have any effect whatsoever. And I’m not even sure of that.

Ms. Paglia, for one, worries it’s too late for Obama to turn it around…

  • TorchWood

    Pssst. Ms. Paglia?

    IT’S TOO LATE

    Period

  • S – Angeltour

    …so hard for the Obots to admit…to say out loud…they got it wrong…

    Hillary was the fighter all along…O is limp!

  • jardg

    Rules, rules and more rules. Americans seem to want to legislate away any responsiblity to parent, to compete or to understand.

    When I was young, people didn’t hand their money over to investmnet bankers without vetting them. They didn’t drop their kids off to be brainwashed in politically correct schools. They didn’t expect government to fight their fights. They weren’t afraid of their neighbors either.

    Willing to hire someone (government) to do it for them, the American people have abdicated responsiblity for their lives. They expect goverment to protect them, teach their children, feed the hungry, decide what foods are best, do their banking and on and on.

    If nothing else, this tragic president and the terrible economy have awakened the American spirit.
    If we had to bankrupt our government to wake up, the nightmare will end and America will come to its senses once more.

  • J.J. (The P.U.M.A.)

    I don’t think it is too late, but I do think it will require a kind of leadership that Obama has yet to demonstrate. The Drudge Report says 44 moderate Democrats in the House will vote against a bill with the public option, and 57 liberals will vote against a bill without it. That leaves Pelosi without enough votes to pass the bill either way. Obama has to choose sides tonight and force the other side to come along. What is being leaked is that he will say that the public option is needed, but that he is open to compromise. If that is what he does, the war among Democrats will continue and it may lead to the death of meaningful reform.

  • Ferd Berfle

    The obamabots will never admit they were wrong because that would mean that HRC was the best candidate and they will never, ever admit that because then they would have to own up to their own misogyny, arrogance, and naivete. No, they will find a convenient scapegoat much like the right-wingers did for so long–it’s all the fault of a Clinton (and any Clinton will do when blame-shifting is in order).

  • Peggy Sue

    I give Paglia credit. She, unlike many Obamatrons, is willing to call this Administration out for its downright incompetence. She’s certainly not stroking the Republicans [anymore than I am], but she’s firing over the bow: we’re headed in the wrong direction. In ridiculous legislation, in our foreign policy.

    In fact, when it comes to foreign policy and a George Will and a Camille Paglia are basically saying the same thing? We [the American public] would be wise to listen.

    Thanks for the article, Ani. I read the Paglia article this morning. Kudos to her for being absolutely honest.

    We’re headed for disaster on many fronts. Is there time to turn the ship around? I’m not sure. But certainly, we should try.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Thanks for the excellent article, Ani. There’s a lot to digest here. I must say that the naivete of these people is a wonder to behold. How someone so allegedly bright could fall for such an unknown commodity of a self-evident con-man is truly puzzling.

  • Obamastolemycountry

    Hillary knew how the left was behaving:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pPV1yd7sQg

  • Ani

    I let Paglia off the hook a bit because I didn’t want to state the obvious but she should look in the mirror on some of the accusations she levels at the Dems. If she were not so hoity toity herself, she would not have cast hillary aside in favor of this woefully unprepared, insincere man and his cast of cronies.

  • oowawa

    Thanks for this excellent and important story, Ani. A watershed article by Paglia? Perhaps. I was encouraged by the evolution in tone between this Paglia article and the previous one called “Obama Healthcare Horror,” (Aug. 12, link below) which she opened like this:

    Buyer’s remorse? Not me. At the North American summit in Guadalajara this week, President Obama resumed the role he is best at — representing the U.S. with dignity and authority abroad. This is why I, for one, voted for Obama and continue to support him. The damage done to U.S. prestige by the feckless, buffoonish George W. Bush will take years to repair. Obama has barely begun the crucial mission that he was elected to do.

    Having said that, I must confess my dismay bordering on horror at the amateurism of the White House apparatus for domestic policy . . .

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/

    I don’t see anything in the current article that corresponds to that first paragraph. Bring on the bitterness and recriminations! I can respect Paglia in that she appears to be trying hard to be honest with herself, and she is not about to carry the Obama sedan chair if her mind tells her that he is bungling the job.

  • oowawa

    Spammed, Ani. Please redeem. Thanks!

  • spider

    Obama’s (read the man behind the curtain and his little elves, including Axlegreaser) whole raison d’etre is to further the continued greatness of Obama. All his humanitarian blather is that of a young fool attempting to pattern himself in the form of others, now gone from the scene, whose incandescence has created light and heat, but his fluttering finger pokes and strident speechifying only reflects that his little candle glow of ability is a miserable excuse for illumination to the rest of us seeking leadership. In Obama it is all form and not much content, and even that is tinctured with self-love. Where there is no heart there is no soul, and Obama et all exposes the kind of toxic hubris shared only by failures of leadership in the past who have ruined nations and destroyed empires. Add to that the absolutely mind warping, deep-seated angst and, yes, hatred for all living creatures, with the exception of those made in his own image. Thus, in this search in the metaphorical mine of laughably inadequate leadership he gets the gold, and you’re heard this one before: we get the shaft. I keep looking for a digital calendar that numbers his days, as the one up on the net for the bulging, creaking insanity of the National Debt, etc.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Peggy Sue, this is the first time I’ve disagreed with you. I am now beyond giving credit for too little, too late epiphanies from those who help shape public opinion. She fell for a con-man, one who could easily have been seen through had one actually looked at the objective evidence, however scant such evidence was. We ALL knew That One was a fraud. That Paglia did not speaks volumes about her ability to discern the real from the fabricated and the contents from the packaging.

  • Ferd Berfle

    You are so right. She did us all a disservice.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Ani wrote “Due respect to Ms. Paglia, she might ask herself why she bought into any of this before the election. We did not. ”

    Excellent question. I guess she was still watching the Obama media and didn’t dive in to his actual record like we did.

    Or, she was one of those she was talking about, just voting Democrat like they were told.

    But, in this article she does good pointing out the obvious, or to us, reality for the rest.

  • oowawa

    Hi Ferd–I’ve got one in spam that kind of reflects Peggy Sue’s comment. I’m not ready to sing “Kumbaya” with repentant obots, but the extreme bitterness in the tone of Paglia’s article kind of warms my cold cold heart. Just to think how much her article is going to piss off The Tingler and Herr Olbermann has to make me smile . . .

  • Ferd Berfle

    Please redeem–LMAO.

    Today, you’re the brown shoes in a world of Tuxedos, oowawa. I was a pair just a bit earlier.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Afternoon/evening oowawa. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad she’s done it. But like little Scotty from the Dubya administration, these types seem to do the right thing eventually–but only after the genie is out of the bottle when no corrective action can be taken.

  • Diana L. C.

    Well, I for one, just get very sad that all of us crazies were ridiculed by her like. I don’t feel much gratitude in her admission that perhaps the American people might have some real brains.

  • Peggy Sue

    Ferd, I don’t totally disagree with you. Yes, there were those of us who did not and refused to drink the kool-aide. You, me and millions of others. But unlike many of us, Camille Paglia has a public voice and a reputation as an undisputed liberal Dem. Her voice has a certain clout and frankly, I’m glad she’s seeing the light, even though it’s late.

    Contrast Paglia’s comments to the all-so-predictable voices at the New York Times or many in the MSM, voices that keep spouting the same old tired lines [many arguments that defy reason].

    So am I distressed that a Camille Paglia didn’t “see” what was going on sooner? Yes. But at least, she’s winking and blinking and speaking the truth now.

    And she has a platform to put that message out. And that makes me happy.

    Better late than nothing at all.

    Maybe when it comes down to it, I’m the eternal optimist :0).

  • Texas Playwright

    Once I read and heard all the media praise and easy questions for bho the fraud and all the abuse and hard questions for Hillary and Sarah, I knew journalism was dead in the USA. Can we revive it in time to be America again? We’ll see.

  • catherine

    Too late you sorry wannabe Paglia! This clown smeared the Clintons for years. She’s a jealous nothing who has always attacked more accomplished women who are her intellectual superiors and would never give her the time of day i.e. Hillary and the late Susan Sontag.

  • oowawa

    I know. Usually when Peggy Sue is around, the Almighty Spam Filter is busy with her posts. I think I might have forgotten to say my prayers to the ASM last night.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Maybe when it comes down to it, I’m the eternal optimist :0).

    I’m trying really hard to be one, too, Peggy Sue. I suppose I’m just really miffed at all this, from his fellow travelers to his inability to speak coherently to his shadow cabinet to his constant passive-aggressive manipulation.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Strike two! I’m those brown loafers again. I don’t know what word I’m using that rankles the Spam Monster but my comment is yet again in the penalty box. Can a kindly referee let me out?

  • Peggy Sue

    Okay, now you’ve jinxed me, oowawa. But it is peculiar. When I’m being spammed, everyone else is A-okay. And then, the reverse is true.

    The spam monster must have very particular dietary requirements!

    Either than or I’m a weird lightening rod for chaos.

  • Sandy

    Well, she is one of the crazies now. It is her turn to be ridiculed by the Dems, and we all know they are not very kind. They will turn on her like a starved pack of wolves. If only people would have listened!

  • Ferd Berfle

    Apparently Peggy Sue has been given a reprieve. I just got penalized for the second time today upthread.

  • jwrjr

    Paglia has noted something that many of us have noted, but she boils it down to its essence – Obama supporters do not answer criticisms of the ObamaCare bill (or anything else, for that matter). Instead, they demean, insult, and belittle anybody who disagrees with them.

  • carolhaka

    Our only question:

    Are we going to allow these morons under the bus with us?

    I say no. Ban them to a Afghanistan for Taliban target practice and send our troops home.

    Is that a new picture with Obama flipping the bird with Palin as his intended target this time?

    I want to twist his boney finger off and stuff it …………….!

    What would happen if Sarah had made a series of idiotic psychotic statements that that new idiot has expounded upon – Cass or whatever his name is?

    Sorry, I have to go now. I see a squirrel in the front yard that may need my legal advice.

    CAROL HAKA :evil:

  • getfitnow

    To be fair, she has written several critical articles. Amazing, I think, for such an ardent supporter.

  • cugel

    I remember that idiot Camille from when I used to subscribe to Salon, back during last year’s primaries. Always running down the Clintons. Always propping up Obama. So she finally figured it out. Must be a little slow.

  • getfitnow

    I wouldn’t trust these dems as far as I can throw them.

  • Prime Obot

    We’ll see tonight. You keep forgetting who we’re talking about here. Don’t be surprised a month from now if a strong health care bill passes and he pundits are all talking about Obama’s amazing speech and how he turned it all around in September.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    yep.

  • getfitnow

    Not fair. Paglia has been critical on several issues, despite supporting BO. I think the bloom is off the rose.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Great write up Ani!

    These people need to start writing about themselves, and how they were so naive, stuck with their heads in the sand, or dare I say stupid, to fall for this guy to begin with.

    Seriously, enough with spanking Obama for *letting them down*. THEY put their own ideas into who they thought he was and what he would/could do. Only the willing were fooled.

  • NYC Girl

    What Ferd just said …

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    completely!

  • Katmoon

    Please at least offer a barf bag, when you go off like that, or a simply courtesy warning, I beg you.

    NQ’ers-Please see open thread Ferd’s message for

    how to handle

  • Ferd Berfle

    Well, PrimeObutt, I see you’ve come up for air. Now that you’ve had it, please return to your previous position.

  • Prime Obot

    For the record, millions of us chose Obama because, among many other reasons, we believed he was a skilled enough politician to win a decisive victory over any Republican. And we were right.

    Deep down, I suspect HRC would have beaten McCain too, and I also think she would do a fine job as president. And I still think she’s probably a frontrunner for the 2016 nomination. But Obama had the vision in 2008. We had to win that election, absolutely had to. And he brought it home for us.

    This notion you all seem to have that Hillary is some sort of insurgent who comes from a different wing of the Democratic Party than Obama and represents different people is absurd. She’s a mainstream Democrat, just like him. It’s no accident that she is serving in one of the most important roles in his adminisration. And it will be no surprise, depending on Biden’s health, state of mind, etc., if HRC steps in as Obama’s running mate in 2012. I will certainly be here on NQ with my popcorn the day that happens to watch heads explode. ;)

  • J.J. (The P.U.M.A.)

    Please, lets welcome all the reformed Obots in with open arms. But, among ourselves we can recall that we were “Country when Country wasn’t cool”.

  • John
  • Ferd Berfle

    Your use of the word “notion” is enough to engage the gag reflex in a vulture. You’re one sick bot.

  • http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

    Obama’s speech will only be as good as the assessment by his harshest critic.

    We will not watch because we do not watch Obama speeches. Those speeches seem to really mess with blood pressure.

    I commend Paglia for her at least dipping the collective Obot toe into the river of disappointment and shame.

  • cugel

    For the record, millions of us chose Obama because, among many other reasons, we believed he was a skilled enough politician to win a decisive victory over any Republican. And we were right.

    Two things wrong with your argument, Obot. One, Oblahblahs political skills had little to do with the Democrats winning this one, other factors, like the conveniently placed financial disaster, had more to do with the Democrat margain of victory. Two, after another three years of Obama, it may be hard for the democrats to win anything for a while.

  • Animal Control

    LOL

  • Prime Obot

    Really? First of all, there is no such thing as an Obamacare bill; there are 5 different versions that have emerged from 5 different committees. But if anyone here would like to ask me anything about the general outlines of the bill that is likely to emerge from all the conferences over the next few weeks, I will be glad to answer. I know quite a bit about the health care issue; it is quite clearly the single most important issue this country needs to address if we are to continue as a first-rate power and avoid national bankruptcy, and yes, I think it’s important that Obama strongly support a public option tonight. You’ve all been crowing that he abandoned it (those who weren’t simultaneously accusing him of socialism for supporting it, that is); tonight I predict you will see him support it, strongly, eloquently and passionately, and I am hopeful that his speech tonight will turn the tide and give America the health care reform that we so desperately need.

    But to return to my main point: I am not interested in belittling anyone. And anyone who wants to discuss any of this in a rational way with an Obama supporter, here I am. Have at it.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    paglia is a major misogynist from way back; i don’t care if she is a lesbian. there are a lot of things about her wit and outspokenness that i like, but she really doesn’t seem to care for women very much. frankly, i would have been surprised if she *didn’t* support Ozero over Hillary.

    her belated revelation that The Fraud is not up to the job seems to me a bit like all those people who foolishly rushed to support the iraq war, but then afterwards when it was TOO LATE to matter, they decide that it wasn’t such a good idea. i’ve said it before, america is a nation of fools.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I’m in no mood to be fair because Paglia and her kind didn’t give a tinker’s cuss about anything but electing That One. She disparaged HRC and for that, she will have to do a whole lot more penance than those articles. I know, how about she come clean and say something along the lines of, “Hey, I was duped like the rest of his supporters”?

  • Prime Obot

    You are correct that outside factors wound up helping Obama. But we were correct in believing he would win, regardless of how it happened. And my argument does nothing to address what will happen in 2012. I will tell you, though, that with all economic signs now pointing to recovery by next year, and as long as there is a good health care bill signed, and with no serious Republican challenger on the horizon that I can see, other than the mannequin Mitt Romney, I really don’t see any significant likelihood of Obama losing in 2012. Virtually none, frankly, if the economy is growing nicely again by then.

  • Prime Obot

    Fred, I look forward to the first time you actually converse with me in a rational manner. Surely the incessant ad hominem insults get boring, even for you?

  • NoBamaNoWay

    i don’t even have time to address all the malarky in that statement. but here’s a clue for you PO, almost ANY dem would have won in 2008, and obama wasn’t nominated for his “skills” or anything else, other than the fact that he was a black man (but not “too” black.) now you’re finding out just how qualified (or unqualified) he is. great.

  • Prime Obot

    lol i guess not. Disappointing but not surprising.

  • Onofre’s arm

    “…O is limp!” Yes, I’ve often likened him to a wet noodle, a Spaghetti-O to be exact.

  • Lily

    “…eloquently and passionately…” as long as his teleprompter doesn’t fall over.

  • cugel

    You are correct that outside factors wound up helping Obama.

    Ah yes, an Obamaite favors us with his trenchant political analysis. I’ll listen to you, and not before, when you realize, as has the fool who is the subject of Ani’s column, that BHO is FOS.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    she’s a lot like Ann Coulter, isn’t she?” it’s a shame, because i think she has some talent, but she prefers to get attention through sensationalism.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Look, you inconsiderate stooge, why don’t you go pollute your own backyard instead of coming here? Perform your oral defecation over at Daily Kos or HuffyPoo’s, little snip.

  • Prime Obot

    You really believe this? That he was nominated just because he was black? Because, presumably, the Democratic leadership thought that a black liberal with a crazy Muslim-sounding name would have an easier time winning swing states like Florida, Iowa, Ohio and North Carolina? That’s why around 100 Congressmen endorsed Hillary in the pre-primary season, and 0 endorsed Obama?

    I’m sorry, I want to be very polite in here so I don’t get banned, but your words just do not square with reality. Obama was *not* the consensus choice of the Democratic establishment when the primary season began; Hillary was. She blew it. If she had run a better campaign, put more resources into Iowa in particular, Obama never would have stood a chance and she would almost certainly be president today.

  • tango

    Recovery is only as good as how many people are employed and how they feel about their future. I don’t care if the stock market is up, I don’t care if banks loan money, I don’t care if people buy homes or the rate of new home construction ticks upwards. All those things are happening now and still people are loosing their jobs. If unemployment is anywhere still near 10%, all the “economic signs pointing towards” recovery won’t mean a damn thing.

  • Animal Control

    He said, many times, “I have a Plan” what is it bot?

  • Katmoon

    Are you a secret Czar? Gibbs is that you?

    But if anyone here would like to ask me anything about the general outlines of the bill that is likely to emerge from all the conferences over the next few weeks, I will be glad to answer.

    The White House Press Secretary is a senior White House official, whose primary responsibility is to act as spokesperson for the Administration.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    yep; they saw what they wanted to see, and most voted for him because the simply liked the idea of a black male president; not that there’s anything wrong with a black male president, IF he is the most qualified candidate, but there is NO WAY that obama was the most qualified candidate, in fact, IMO he was the least qualified candidate of the entire democratic field.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I’m sorry, I want to be very polite in here so I don’t get banned,

    Oh, by all means, go ahead and get banned, Bot Central Czar. The time for discussions with any of you and your fellow travelers was over long ago when you indulged yourself in racism and misogyny. We are through with discussing anything with Neanderthals like you.

  • felizarte

    The released excerpts (“games are over . . .”) is insulting. Is that what he thinks of all those citizens who braved attending the townhalls? Those who lined up along the streets holding up their signs in the hot sun?

    Now he will pretend to never have been part of the bickering? So typical.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Yuk, sing Kumbaya with repentant obots oowawa? As repellant as that possibility is, I might consider an amicable truce with those obot insects, but only after I’ve had the chance to butt kick them around the room a few times. :)

  • Prime Obot

    You are correct, Tango. Luckily for Obama and the Democrats, nobody will be voting until November 2010, and by then most economists now believe the job market will be recovering, and Obama will be able to credibly claim some of the credit for that recovery due to his getting that enormous stimulus bill passed.

    Employment is a trailing indicator. Almost all other economic indicators have already turned around, meaning the recession is officially probably over. But even then, the economy is expected to shed jobs for a few more months before bottoming out with the official unemployment rate somewhere around 10%, and then starting to recover at the end of this year or early next. As long as that happens, I don’t anticipate much trouble for Obama and the Dems.

    If this is a double-dip recession, though, which is certainly possible (though not likely), then all bets are off.

  • felizarte

    I predict that after tonight’s speech, he will be worse off in the polls than if he never opened his mouth.

  • Cahil

    Recognizing that the horse is out of the barn, after the horse is gone and the neighbors have been yelling about it for months, doesn’t make you perceptive or even have 20/20 hindsight. It only points out the fact that your head has been buried up your a** for an awful long time.

    Another terrific article, Ani. Just file it under the heading, “Another Pundit Wipes the S*** Out of Their Eyes.”

  • Ferd Berfle

    LMAO

    Well, I’ll be. You mean all those ers, ahs, ums, and uhs are actually in the text on TOTUS’ screen?

  • Katmoon

    Kabuka theater tonight includes using people’s health care stories, of whom, will of course be sitting in the first lady’s box. In advance I am sorry for whatever health issues anyone has had, but I do not believe and never have in selecting and parading; as we all have stories. That isn’t the point so trying for the empathy using people, yes using, that is what this man does, to be convincing in a speech is more of the inexperienced, pedestrian ruse this administration is so very fond of staging, no matter who is harmed.FYI-it doesn’t work. If anything it repels.

  • Prime Obot

    Bad call. Bad bet. You watch what all the polls say about Obama’s approval rating 3 or 4 days from now. It will be higher, guaranteed.

  • Katmoon

    You betcha, we live and die by polls here.

  • Ferd Berfle

    there are 5 different versions that have emerged from 5 different committees.

    Now that you’ve demonstrated that you can count, please go show your parents, I’m sure they’ll be duly impressed, Botty Czar

  • tango

    Enacting government health care is not what’s needed for the US to avoid bankruptcy. What’s needed is for us to eliminate debt. We do that by cutting back, getting rid of what’s not needed, streamlining everything else to the bare bones and sticking to a strict budget. It’s what you’d do in your personal life right? So why should the government do something so against common sense?

    Only government feels that since they are broke, they should just spend more and more and that will take care of the problem. It’s like saying to the judge overseeing your bankruptcy case when he asks you how you plan settle your debts – “Judge, I feel that if I continue to spend money on things I can’t afford, that will allow me to get out of bankruptcy quicker.” . He’d laugh you out of court then ask you your REAL plan.

    What government needs is an intervention, not any more enabling.

  • Prime Obot

    Inconsiderate? You strike me as the rude one, and utterly unwarranted, and to a degree that I’m surprised you’re still permitted to post here. Are most NQers like this? I doubt it.

  • Onofre’s arm

    No Katmoon, the prose is far more literate than Gibbs is capable of, but the dementia is remarkably similar.

  • Steve_in_KC

    Forget Romney. He’s a has-been, along with that old fart Gingrich. Anyone who thinks Cheney has a shot is under the influence of major hallucinagens. And Sarah Palin won’t even be in the running unless she does a complete makeover of her image, and I seriously doubt that.

    The way the Republicans usually win the Presidency is to pick a governor, preferably a sitting gov. It’s probably going to be someone we’ve heard of but never took seriously. I assume it will be a white male of a comparable age to Obama, 50ish.

    Don’t expect them to tip their hand too early, but they will be united behind one candidate when the time is right, someone who can appeal to many Independants without alienating the far right. I have no suggestions, but I’ll bet money it won’t be Bobby Jindal. I think the choice will be stark contrast to Obama.

  • Katmoon

    ROFl, what would it be FURRY & FURRIER LLC?

  • Ferd Berfle

    If you were any more dense, you’d be the object of an astronomer’s undivided attention.

  • Prime Obot

    lol, i see. So the person who complained that Obots won’t defend the health care bill didn’t speak for you?

  • Prime Obot

    America will learn in 10 minutes.

  • Katmoon

    I have socks for tossing at the television, it helps. But I still pace a great deal; so I know what you mean about blood pressure.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    This woman truly is brilliant. I have read two of her booksm and attended a lecture, and was mighty impressed. I was astounded when she drank the Koolaid, but I give her credit for coming out of a coma now. I know too many people who still think that our President knows what he is doing.

  • Ferd Berfle

    But you’ll never learn in a lifetime, troll. Just keep nodding and reading from your botcamp PowerPoint Presentation.

  • Prime Obot

    Well, gee, I appreciate the backhand compliment, Onofre. I’ll say this much: I’m a professional writer. But I don’t generally cover politics, so I am not a professional Obot. ;)

  • baldwin

    “It was as if Democrats live in a utopian dream world, divorced from the daily demands and realities of organization and management….” That about sums up the Obambots and their media comrades.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Unlike you, I can think, speak, and write for myself. You ought to try it sometime, Czar bot, in lieu of regurgitating prepackaged prefabricated pablum from your poseur prexy.

    You lost your chance at discussions over a year ago when you savaged HRC. As far as I’m concerned, I hope you and your fellow insects get squashed by That One’s policies. You should have been more careful for what you wished.

  • Prime Obot

    Like I said: is anyone watching? What level of incessant personal insults gets one banned here?

  • Animal Control

    I strive to write like Ferd

  • Mandelay

    Dems became the thing they hated. Sure they won. (Remember in the early days of the administration, even Obama said several times “We won!” as if to say “We won and we can do anything we want?) — but they conveniently forgot that after you win, you need to govern, and in order to govern, you need to avoid splitting the country. (Remember LBJ?)
    Obama’s non-stop self-promotion, including tonight’s dramatic joint session “major speech” (yawn, yet another major speech) has created the odd image of a POTUS who looks like he’s always on t.v. but never working.
    I turned on the t.v. this morning, watched a minute of Bill Clinton speaking at the Cronkite tribute, and there, in the audience (I guess waiting to speak as I did not stick around to find out) was Obama. How does he find the time to make all these speeches? Does he ever work? Will he dig up Ted Kennedy to play the part of “El Cid” during tonight’s speech? Stay tuned….
    As for Lady Camille, how could such a supposed intellectual heavyweight shred an intellectual powerhouse like HRC and promote a do-nothing Chicago Machine guy like Obama? At this point, Camille is like a scorpion stinging herself.
    Meantime, HRC is hard at work, as usual. Let Camille foam at the mouth, let Obama and his TOTUS continue to make speeches. HRC continues to do the job, a real President, working on the sidelines while amateur night continues to rock and roll at the White House.

  • Prime Obot

    I savaged HRC? Personally? I thought it was just a political campaign, and on my screen now, she is quite happily gladhanding everyone in Congress, a popular, talented, successful power player as always. Your notion that anyone who voted for Obama by extension “savaged” HRC is an odd and unhelpful embrace of humiliating victimhood that most of us Democrats will not ever associate with the remarkable Hillary Clinton, and having met her, I gotta tell you, I really REALLY doubt she buys it herself. She fought a tough campaign and lost, and I still think she’s as likely as anyone else alive to be the next president of the United States.

  • Ani

    It never ceases to amaze me — whenever an Obama supporter feels threatened, he or she comes out to post as many adverse comments on an article as possible. Thank you. I can assure you, your point of view is heard loud and clear.

    And no, they clearly are not the same “wing” of the party. If Pelosi et al thought they were, as Hillary is the far smarter, more experienced legislator and more savvy politician in terms of actually getting things done, believe me, they would have pushed her, not him.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Stellar comment Mandelay. I agree entirely.

    Ferd.

  • Onofre’s arm

    No sweat on the compliment! Whoops, I have to leave the keyboard now. Although I’ve fasted in preparation for Spaghetti-O’s speech, I still need to find some air sickness bags just in case. The dry heaves aren’t always so dry. Time for a brand new avalanch of lies, veiled insults, blame shifting, and general blather that only a psychotic teleprompter can display, and a shameless Narcissist can orate.

  • Ani

    As for Lady Camille, how could such a supposed intellectual heavyweight shred an intellectual powerhouse like HRC and promote a do-nothing Chicago Machine guy like Obama? At this point, Camille is like a scorpion stinging herself.

    Brilliant comment, Mandalay. It had to be motivated by jealousy. There is no way a woman as smart as Paglia could have talked her way into believing Mr. Yes-We-Can was the intellectual or political superior to Hillary in any way shape or form. She has only herself and others like her to thank.

  • Peggy Sue

    Prime Obot said:

    “But Obama had the vision in 2008.”

    Really? And what exactly was that “vision” that you were so impressed by? Yes We Can! Hope and Change?

    And how has that translated into the real world? Is the economy better off with Geithner and Bernake and the lullaby that hums “go back to sleep; it’s going to be okay.”

    National security? Are we more secure with boots still on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan? Or the Patriot Act still in place? Or an unresolved Gitmo solution? Or the flip flop on FISA? Or the ridiculous game of pointing fingers at Republicans about healthcare when Obama cannot get his own ass in gear?

    It goes on ad infinitum.

    I’m listening to the speech now. He’s brought the economy back from the brink??? Look at the numbers. He can talk a sweet speech, but the math is the math. If you’re willing to look, that is.

    I’m a recovering Dem. And this Administration does not and will never represent me. Obama has no spine. He won’t fight for healthcare for the American public. But he sure has no problem fighting for the rights of corporations.

    And he was the candidate who would reject the lobbyists???

    Give me a frigging break!

    You and your Obamatron buddies were had, hoodwinked with a snazzy message. And now we all get to suffer.

    Btw, I hope your head does explode, regardless of what HRC does.

  • Ani

    As always, Cahil, you have such a refreshing, if not dainty, way of making your point. :)

  • btintaos

    I agree. And I’ll be crapping hope and rainbows then, too.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Like I said: is anyone watching? What level of incessant personal insults gets one banned here?

    You started this a couple of weeks ago, dink, when, in your very first post, you took us all on with the first of several ad hominem abusives. Unlike you, however, we remember because we aren’t befuddled by all that grog that has obviously muddled the thought processes going on in that empty space you call your skull.

    Take your two-faces and multiple personalities (believe, Kelvin, Francis, Debbie, ee, UKforDems, etc.) with you on the way out, richardweed.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Thank you, AC. I work on it constantly as it is much more fun than the technical reports I have to write all day. Just once, I’d like to say what I really felt about some particular project at work as I am free to say here about the Obamazoids.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    You’re extremely optimistic. This is not a NORMAL recession like we’ve been used to. We also have a hell of a #$%@storm still coming up in commercial real estate. The dollar is also bottoming out and our national debt is not sustainable.

    Going back to the way things were is not likely to happen anytime soon, if in our lifetimes.

    Either way, there are enough people on the center-right who are tired of Obama and Nancy Pelosi and will remember being called Nazis and astroturfers when it comes time to vote in 2010 and 2012.

    I don’t care how well the economy is doing, in 2012 I will vote against Obama and that’s because if the economy does recover I will believe it happened in spite of him, not because of him.

    He will never EVER get my vote anyway, not after stealing the primary from Hillary. People who resort to voter intimidation and fraud will never ever get my support, no matter what political party. And you can bet a hell of a lot of tea party people are going to remain so despite any economic recovery.

  • Peggy Sue

    Keep up the “happy talk,” Prime Obot. But regardless of how many times you say it, the math is still the math. Numbers do not lie, only the people nudging them. Believe those stock market numbers? Fool!

    Jobs are the lagging indicator? Consumer spending is 70% of the financial house that both Republicans and Democrats have built for us over the last 30 years.

    Consumers have hit the wall. And so has the economy. We’re poised for absolute financial disaster. Please, take a look at the effect of the commerical real estate wave, the mega ARMs resetting, retail numbers, exports and imports, etc,.etc, etc.

    In fact, take a true gander at the credit contraction, the GDP shrinkage, and the real unadluterated unemployment numbers. 9.7? Not really. Try 16-20%.

    My suggestion? Stock up your shelves with durable goods. Keep your car gassed up. And if you have a few extra pesos in the bank, take them out and stuff them under the mattress. Don’t know whether it will help, but why not.

    Sound crazy? Catch you next year!

    But please, keep humming that “yes, we can” message and how the Obama Adminstration was the best thing coming down the pike. Since GW.

    I’m sure that will help. In the same way, the Titanic muscicians kept the ship from sinking.

  • Prime Obot

    Then how did their wings differ? And if they “pushed him, not her,” why did Hillary begin the primaries with 110 or so pledged delegates, while Obama began the primaries with zero?

    I’m sorry, this is just a fantasy version of history that you are indulging in.

  • carolhaka

    Works for me.

    CAROL HAKA :evil:

  • MBC

    We need a collection of Ferd’s Funnies on NQ someday, when this nightmare is over. Actually, maybe we need it now for some laughs? Aren’t they all archived? Better yet, publish them, you could make a fortune.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Thank you for the praise. That being said, I’m only a person who truly loves the language and has worked on it–and the bots, to my “undying gratitude” do give me plenty of fodder. It is rather like shooting really big fish in a thimble, MBC.

    Thanks again,

    Ferd.

  • oowawa

    keep looking for a digital calendar that numbers his days

    Well, sounds like there might be a market for a kind of Advent Calendar counting down the days until the next election–every day you get to open a little door and get a little piece of chocolate . . . On the doors would be little pictures of cabinet, commissioners, czars, etc. Fun, and tasty too!

  • oowawa

    the chance to butt kick them around the room a few times.

    Remember, Onofre’s arm, you don’t have a foot to do any butt-kicking. The best you will probably be able to manage is spanking them severely.

  • Ferd Berfle

    You remorseless POS. You and your ilk did to HRC what the right-wingers could never do–betray her.

    You are one unethical POS. Do us a favor and don’t come back here, Obamacrat. I was and know Democrats and you aren’t one, you POS.

    Get lost, boy.

  • Onofre’s arm

    It is far too early for the Republicans to reveal any candidates that are politically gestating right now, the liberals/progressives are too well practiced at killing things in the womb.

  • Onofre’s arm

    I have been known to deliver a mean goose. I do so love pate de foie gras. Almost as much as I love double entendres

  • Onofre’s arm

    Do you think that if Obama had an anecdote about a leper, that the guy would be lucky enough to sit next to Michelle? Just wondering.

  • MG-PUMA

    Obama should just resign.

    Just resign and get it over with.

    MG-PUMA

  • MG-PUMA

    I’m thinking Tim Pawlenty.

  • jwrjr

    The problem, mentally challenged Obot, is that your idea of a discussion “in a rational way” starts with the proposition that Obama has the best ideas and that everybody who disagrees is wrong. That delusion is an instant loser (here, anyway).

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    There’s no way to have a rational discussion with someone in such a deep state of denial. That you would come here to argue the same old tired POV all his followers have says it all.

    You are simply taking up space and wasting our time. Your points have been discussed and you are merely redundant. All you engage here is frustration over your programed mind and anger that you think we should put up with it. We get it. We don’t agree and never will. Insofar as HRC, the primary was rigged and stolen from her and us. Many of us are 5/31/08 Independents; Democrats in exile; Democratic resistance. We watched this debacle from the start and we remember that we are not welcome in the “New Democrat Party” so why would you think you’d be welcome here? You aren’t.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    So am I.

  • lorac

    J.J., we were cool, we were “classic” (wise). Their cool was of the foolish fad type. Fads fade, but wisdom endures!

  • lorac

    “But Obama had the vision in 2008″

    What vision? Are you referring to his empty, non-detailed slogans that any presidential candidate could have used?

    “mainstream”

    You’re so funny.

  • lorac

    AGI, remember how on one of the Obama worshipping blogs, they would write diaries about how they “came to Obama”??? (Like it was some religious awakening)

    So your idea is good – now the journalists, who all let us down, should now write diaries about how they managed to fall for persuasion, and about how they’re working on their 12-step program to regain their critical thinking skills.

  • lorac

    “not after stealing the primary from Hillary. People who resort to voter intimidation and fraud will never ever get my support, no matter what political party. ”

    Absolutely. I can’t believe that Obots actually think we will vote for someone with so many criminal and character flaws. The poster above is re-airing the old meme that Hillary and BO are not far apart (this meme claims that BO is a centrist) – well, they’re not alike.

    One is a hard worker, a public servant, a woman with integrity, and a person who is more interested in the future of our country than in being like Obama and staying in campaign mode in order to feed a narcissistic need for external validation.

  • DaddysDarlin

    Hello Gibbs is that you?

  • trixta

    I imagine that much of Paglia’s support for candidate BO was due to her incurable CDS. I’ve never liked her academic work, but this article is the third time she nails it.

  • trixta

    “paglia is a major misogynist from way back”

    So true.

  • trixta

    Big yawn.

  • trixta

    i.e. Big yawn (to the Bot).

  • http://thecoffeeshopblog.blogspot.com/ Rose

    It’s a good article. She makes good points, and as you say, it is a good thing she is finally opening her eyes…

    But, for her, it is still about the “Team” – Can the “Team” still win, can they get re-elected, will they ruin Obama’s chances of getting re-elected…? can they beat the other “Team.”

    It isn’t about what’s good for the people. Just what’s good for the “Team.” She’s getting closer, but it’s attitudes like hers that are still part of the problem.

    Some things are right and some things are wrong. NO matter what party you belong to. You should see a real mix of votes, if representatives were really thinking of the PEOPLE and not the PARTY. And in this case I am talking about the Democrats (mostly).

    NO one, except the partisan hacks would agree that it is a good idea to vote in massive spending bills at all, much less without reading them, without vetting them. NO one in their right mind would agree to be pushed into a phony crisis by a one time junior colleague with questionable work habits. No elected representative worth the ink on the ballot would set aside his or her statesmanship and act as a lackey for a Pelosi.

    Once elected, you represent the people. ALL of them, regardless of party. You represent the Country. You have NO right to make partisan votes.

    While at this time I HOPE the Republicans hold the line against these massive spending debacles – because it is the right thing to do – in general, party line votes are a bad thing. And yet that is all we have been seeing, as any watcher of C-Span can tell you, for decades. It’s gotten worse, culminating in the horrific “Stimulus” bill.

    As long as we see votes going down party lines, we don’t need to be paying those guys their salaries, and they don’t need to bother to go to the office. Let them stay home and watch Soap Operas, we can fill in their votes by Party, YES, or NO. Maybe then we would get to find out who is making these decisions.

    Or, we could fix things by enacting legislations forbidding all Party affiliations once elected. No caucus meetings, no fundraisers (except within a narrow window around election time), no partisan designation whatsoever.

    It won’t happen – but anyone who votes with an eye on whether or not they will get elected does not deserve to stay in office. You do the right thing for the right reasons – and if it means you don’t get re-elected, so be it.

    Our system of checks and balances depends on these people. And they are betraying us on a daily basis. Maybe some of them, like Paglia, will wake up in time.

  • Ani

    Thank you for your comments.

    Unfortunately the attitude of “Party before country” has become so prevalent on both sides, it is the American people who are losing out. I agree that Paglia’s comments, no matter how angry she is, are really meant as a bracer to wake the Administration and slap them back into line. She has not given up on them.

    I still do not understand the cognitive dissonance that led her to ignore all the warning signs last year.

  • mary

    Ani

    You’re absolutely on-target! Obummer bailed out Wall Street not Main Street. I recall Ms Mayflower’s column in HuffPost who exposed the real Obuma who called (he didn’t know he was being taped in the exclusive millionaire’s club in SanFrisco!) the working people racists “they don’t like anyone not like them” and ignorant “these bitter people cling to their religion and guns”!!

    Well, these poor folk are scared of you, Obummer! You’re in the POCKETS OF THE INSURANCE LOBBY!
    Canada fixed its system which is far more efficient (one-third cost) in the 60s! And the jerk misrepresneted Hillary’s Harry and Louisie brochures distributed by his thugs…remember her shouting: SHAME ON YOU, BARACK!

  • mary

    Ms Paglia has always struck me as a man in a woman’s body. Her views are traditionally sexist and have not evolved from her college days. That she remains an ‘intellectual’ is due in no small part to her strength in argumentation and she does hold her own epistemologically. But she sure as hell has got it all wrong in the sociology dept. Her intense Hillary-hatred is a sick aspect of her that I equate to a half-baked male Obumer thug’s mentality and not a mature ‘intellectual’ female of her purported stature!
    Even if I agree with her commentary on Obummer, she never lifted an intellectual finger to speak the Truth during the infamous Campaign that had Obummer’s thugs destroy civility and rational argument! She’s a second-rate punk and she was rightly kicked out of Steinem’s lecture a few years back.
    Paglia is a regressive disappointed sexist who had high hopes for her “spineless eunuch” president (comment on ‘spineless Eunuch’ comes from an Oped article from an ex-fan of the Obama thuggery). Ms. Pee would probably agree with sexist moron McCafferty of CNN Obumer News that “Hillary sounds like a Scolding Mother”–as if this were an insult!
    Too little too late. The Messia has no lifejacket and his Titanick is being thrown the kitchen sink–the same one he was throwing Hillary during the campaign…

    “Periodically, Paglia will feel down and start launching attacks against me to boost her appeal!”

  • mary

    Catherine

    Sontag was a real intellectual. Not a xeroxed copy of a sexist in a man’s body! Ms Pee’s Hillary-hatred was always irrational. But then again, do you know of any member of the Obummer Club that’s been rational?

  • http://www.missmalevolent.com Miss Malevolent

    I think everyone here knows that Hillary isn’t going to run in 2016, and the misogyny that came out of this past election isn’t going to suddenly disappear in seven years.

    This is placating nonsense that Obamabots love to shove down people’s throats, like the give a damn about anybody but themselves and their “fearless leader”.

    You don’t care about this country, and you don’t care about your fellow citizens, cause if you did, you wouldn’t have voted for George Bush Jr. the Sequel.

  • Ani

    You are speaking of super delegates — it is impossible to have amassed any pledged delegates before a primary. What I am speaking of in my comment is the Dem leadership namely Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Kennedy, Kerry et al who stabbed her in the back at every turn and did lots of arm twisting to get super delegates to later abandon her. If you wish to now pretend that did not happen, you are the one indulging in a fantasy version of history. Considering there are a total of over 4,200 delegates, 100 is not even a drop in the bucket — and those people stuck with her.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Spot on, Ani. I still seethe when I think about what the obamacrats did to her.

    Prima Bota says he’s a professional writer. I’m only assuming here, but I’d say it would be in the category of pulp fiction.

  • Ani

    Thanks, Oowawa. I agree about Paglia. I’m sure we’ll all continue to monitor her evolution. I’m curious to see what she says another three months from now.

    Even if her remarks feel a day late and a dollar short to some of us, it still takes courage to speak out and offer any criticism. It is not viewed constructively but through the prism of narcissism, which means anything less than adulation is not ok. I wish we could get past this. There is no one in that office who would perform perfectly and giving an open hearing to one’s detractors could prove helpful.

  • Ani

    Sadly, you are right about that. I hope she doesn’t read the “letters” posted to her article — some gave her a snootful. Well, actually, I hope she does. Then she’ll finally get a taste of what the rest of us had to listen to for 18 months.

  • Ani

    Yes I do remember. It is sad how many of these pundits have tried to wash their memory banks clean of all the warning signs and clear indicators.

  • susan

    While I give Ms. Paglia credit for admitting she drank the coolaid and now has buyer’s remorse, I can’t help but wonder why she couldn’t figure out prior to the election, as we did, that Obama has numerous radical ties and a socialist agenda for America. She is a journalist, right? Don’t they, by their very job descriptions, investigate the facts and report the truth??? [Yeah, right!] The best news I read all day is that John Stossel of ABC News is defecting over to FOX!!! He is a great investigative reporter, and perhaps he will be the Pied Piper for news reporters in the MSM who are sick to death of having their voices stifled by their corporate-owned MSM networks. No paycheck is worth sacrificing your integrity. The tide is turning, and history will not look kindly on the illustrious MSM during the 2008 election.

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