Comments on: Déjà Vu All Over Again: The Media Beats The War Drums For Afghanistan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Barry 0351 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253959 Barry 0351 Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:44:38 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253959 Four Marines killed when civilians assisting Taliban are seen on the target area and artillery support and Tac Air are refused. To save the Taliban's civilian supporters four American's have died. Funny how on 9/11 there were no ROE's by the enemy when they killed three thousand American civilians at the world trade center. The object is no victory in Afganistan as stated by the POTUS and that means defeat and destruction of an American military in the field. Four Marines killed when civilians assisting Taliban are seen on the target area and artillery support and Tac Air are refused.
To save the Taliban’s civilian supporters four American’s have died.
Funny how on 9/11 there were no ROE’s by the enemy when they killed three thousand American civilians at the world trade center.
The object is no victory in Afganistan as stated by the POTUS and that means defeat and destruction of an American military in the field.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253285 TeakWoodKite Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:02:46 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253285 Having seen Micheal Weir on Cnn saying that the Majority Of Afghans are "on the fence", in seeing the US as in it for the long haul. This complicates the mission of "Clear hold and build". As Charlie Wilson said, "We Fucked up the end game." Not much has changed when the Lt Col. that he interviewed said to his hosts he could not make promises of staying beyond 18 months. After 30 years of war, what is 18 months of sitting on the fence? Having seen Micheal Weir on Cnn saying that the Majority Of Afghans are “on the fence”, in seeing the US as in it for the long haul. This complicates the mission of “Clear hold and build”.

As Charlie Wilson said, “We Fucked up the end game.”

Not much has changed when the Lt Col. that he interviewed said to his hosts he could not make promises of staying beyond 18 months. After 30 years of war, what is 18 months of sitting on the fence?

]]> By: getfitnow http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253280 getfitnow Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:00:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253280 Yes, and where is the daily tally of our war dead? That certainly was out front during the Bush years--every single day--every single death. I can't stand the hypocracy. Yes, and where is the daily tally of our war dead? That certainly was out front during the Bush years–every single day–every single death. I can’t stand the hypocracy.

]]> By: Katmoon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253252 Katmoon Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:16:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253252 You are always very kind also Teakwood, thank you. We are awaiting a granddaughter any minute, from our soldier son; just as with his firstborn he will be deployed again until she is 2. I am loading rolled socks in a few minutes so when we watch the speech, and I won't break the television. You are always very kind also Teakwood, thank you. We are awaiting a granddaughter any minute, from our soldier son; just as with his firstborn he will be deployed again until she is 2. I am loading rolled socks in a few minutes so when we watch the speech, and I won’t break the television.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253219 TeakWoodKite Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:21:44 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253219 My prayers are with them and all those that serve. My prayers are with them and all those that serve.

]]> By: JohnnyB http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253162 JohnnyB Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:42:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253162 Want to do something? Sign the petition to End the War: http://gopetition.com/online/30533.html Many peace groups are on board here. Want to do something? Sign the petition to End the War:

http://gopetition.com/online/30533.html

Many peace groups are on board here.

]]> By: jwrjr http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253156 jwrjr Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:29:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253156 When the Russians invaded, the Afghans kicked them out. What delusion makes Ozero think that this time the invaders (us) will win? When the Russians invaded, the Afghans kicked them out. What delusion makes Ozero think that this time the invaders (us) will win?

]]> By: Lily http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253148 Lily Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:15:46 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253148 I am surprised that this article did not recognize Joe Biden as part of Obama's foreign policy team. If I remember correctly, Biden was the Democrat who made an issue of the importance of redirecting US efforts from Iraq to Afghanistan during the Democratic primary debates. Personally, I have never believed that Obama has any influence whatsoever in actually forming "his" administration's policies. His puppetmasters do that for him. John Kerry is probably one of his foreign policy puppetmasters and whoever the Congress people are who chair the foreign relations committees in either house of Congress. And I don't hear any Republicans ranting and raving about what is going on in Afghanistan, even though soldier fatalities seem to be increasing every day. Everything I have read says US interest in Afghanistan is really related to protecting oil pipelines supplying US allies and business interests. I am surprised that this article did not recognize Joe Biden as part of Obama’s foreign policy team. If I remember correctly, Biden was the Democrat who made an issue of the importance of redirecting US efforts from Iraq to Afghanistan during the Democratic primary debates. Personally, I have never believed that Obama has any influence whatsoever in actually forming “his” administration’s policies. His puppetmasters do that for him. John Kerry is probably one of his foreign policy puppetmasters and whoever the Congress people are who chair the foreign relations committees in either house of Congress. And I don’t hear any Republicans ranting and raving about what is going on in Afghanistan, even though soldier fatalities seem to be increasing every day. Everything I have read says US interest in Afghanistan is really related to protecting oil pipelines supplying US allies and business interests.

]]> By: Katmoon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253142 Katmoon Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:02:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253142 I wonder when someone will do this for our soldiers children and families? http://www.examiner.com/x-4459-NY-Muslim-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Islam-on-Capitol-Hill-Please-plan-on-attending <blockquote>On September 25th peace, beauty and solidarity of Islam will shine through America's capitol. The day is being celebrated as a day of Islamic unity for American Muslims. The Athan will be chanted on Capitol Hill, echoing off of the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument and other great edifices that surround Capitol Hill. Thousands of Muslims from all races, creeds, colors and ethnicities will gather for the sole purpose of prayer. Bonds of friendship will be formed between those in attendance, both Muslims and Non-Muslims Muslim youth will experience tours of the Library of Congress and the Supreme Court. Sheikh Jebril and Sheikh Ahmed Dewidar will recite the holy Quran.</blockquote> I wonder when someone will do this for our soldiers children and families?

http://www.examiner.com/x-4459-NY-Muslim-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Islam-on-Capitol-Hill-Please-plan-on-attending

On September 25th peace, beauty and solidarity of Islam will shine through America’s capitol. The day is being celebrated as a day of Islamic unity for American Muslims. The Athan will be chanted on Capitol Hill, echoing off of the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument and other great edifices that surround Capitol Hill. Thousands of Muslims from all races, creeds, colors and ethnicities will gather for the sole purpose of prayer. Bonds of friendship will be formed between those in attendance, both Muslims and Non-Muslims Muslim youth will experience tours of the Library of Congress and the Supreme Court.

Sheikh Jebril and Sheikh Ahmed Dewidar will recite the holy Quran.

]]> By: candymarl http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253139 candymarl Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:59:43 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253139 So much for the "anti-war" President. Where are the anti-war activists now? *crickets* That's what I thought. One exception is Cindy Sheehan who attempted to confront President Obama during his last vacation to Martha's Vineyard. She was there but our great MSM refused to cover it. Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow where is your anti-war frothing now? *crickets again* That's what I thought. So much for the “anti-war” President. Where are the anti-war activists now?

*crickets*

That’s what I thought.

One exception is Cindy Sheehan who attempted to confront President Obama during his last vacation to Martha’s Vineyard. She was there but our great MSM refused to cover it.

Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow where is your anti-war frothing now?

*crickets again*

That’s what I thought.

]]> By: baldwin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253128 baldwin Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:29:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253128 And now it seems in an effort to win those hearts and minds that the Marines are made to give up there's literally. Mcclatchy reports that 4 Marines were killed after being denied air support due to new rules of engagement. Finally, a Viet Nam comparison that holds it weight. Get out and do it now. This will never work. And now it seems in an effort to win those hearts and minds that the Marines are made to give up there’s literally. Mcclatchy reports that 4 Marines were killed after being denied air support due to new rules of engagement. Finally, a Viet Nam comparison that holds it weight. Get out and do it now. This will never work.

]]> By: oowawa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253120 oowawa Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:22:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253120 You're definitely not "whining," Katmoon. There are those who talk big about going to war while they and their families are well-protected and safe, and there are those who pay with flesh and blood. Your family pays. You’re definitely not “whining,” Katmoon. There are those who talk big about going to war while they and their families are well-protected and safe, and there are those who pay with flesh and blood. Your family pays.

]]> By: rosa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253113 rosa Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:08:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253113 So are the american press just lazy,stupid, or taking care of their corporate leaders,including GE and those supporting Obama? I cannot believe the government and the people are falling for a false premise again. CNN has a number of reporters in Afghanistan and Michael Ware seems to be more truthfully reporting from the Afghanistan perspective{ that they don't trust us much,neither do americans}, but where are the so called newspeople other than the internet? After all many do not go this route and newspapers are what they are . Don't we ever learn from mistakes ? Obama was so proud of his fake stand on Iraq,so where is Olberman's outrage on Obamas war now ,same with most others? So are the american press just lazy,stupid, or taking care of their corporate leaders,including GE and those supporting Obama? I cannot believe the government and the people are falling for a false premise again. CNN has a number of reporters in Afghanistan and Michael Ware seems to be more truthfully reporting from the Afghanistan perspective{ that they don’t trust us much,neither do americans}, but where are the so called newspeople other than the internet? After all many do not go this route and newspapers are what they are .

Don’t we ever learn from mistakes ? Obama was so proud of his fake stand on Iraq,so where is Olberman’s outrage on Obamas war now ,same with most others?

]]> By: Katmoon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253112 Katmoon Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:06:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253112 You are always kind and always are grateful when I bring them up oowawa; I only talk about them because we have been doing this for almost 6 years now with one, and now our other child. I'm whining, I'm sorry, I don't mean it that way. My children serve, my heart is in their hands, I go with them everyday. They are our only children, and we support them and all our soldiers and are so very proud of them. But I am not proud of either political party who on one hand puts them in a war for years and years and years, then replaces them paying contractors billions to do the guard work, after all the heavy lifting and deaths have taken place. Argh..I ramble, because it makes me so mad. My concern is with most troops engaged in theater, and the support troops of national guard as well, all it would take is another natural disaster, and we become ripe for the new civilian army and what comes with it. You are always kind and always are grateful when I bring them up oowawa; I only talk about them because we have been doing this for almost 6 years now with one, and now our other child. I’m whining, I’m sorry, I don’t mean it that way. My children serve, my heart is in their hands, I go with them everyday. They are our only children, and we support them and all our soldiers and are so very proud of them. But I am not proud of either political party who on one hand puts them in a war for years and years and years, then replaces them paying contractors billions to do the guard work, after all the heavy lifting and deaths have taken place. Argh..I ramble, because it makes me so mad.

My concern is with most troops engaged in theater, and the support troops of national guard as well, all it would take is another natural disaster, and we become ripe for the new civilian army and what comes with it.

]]> By: oowawa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32078/deja-vu-all-over-again-the-media-beats-the-war-drums-for-afghanistan/#comment-1253108 oowawa Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:56:54 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32078#comment-1253108 <blockquote>I imagine the draft is very close at hand</blockquote> Well, that would certainly be a wake-up call on college campuses and across America. Katmoon, your family is really paying with what is most valuable--with sons and daughters. Thanks for your family's sacrifices. That's far beyond political rhetoric!

I imagine the draft is very close at hand

Well, that would certainly be a wake-up call on college campuses and across America.

Katmoon, your family is really paying with what is most valuable–with sons and daughters. Thanks for your family’s sacrifices. That’s far beyond political rhetoric!

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