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Che, Obama, and the Revolutionary Agenda

It’s really not surprising that some Obama supporters — with their blinkered, cult-like worship of Obama — have Ernesto “Che” Guevara side-by-side with their icon of Hope and Change.

Some attribute the use of Che’s image in Obama’s campaign offices to his naive young followers. The only Che they know comes from Hollywood, portrayed by Gael Garcia Bernal in the 2004 film The Motorcycle Diaries. That Che is commercial success, even a commodity:

His likeness adorns mugs, hoodies, lighters, key chains, wallets, baseball caps, toques, bandannas, tank tops, club shirts, couture bags, denim jeans, herbal tea

But, as Alvaro Vargas Llosa writes in a TNR piece titled The Killing Machine, the idolatry of Che is another example of blind hero worship. His description of idolatry fits Obama as well as Che:

It is customary for followers of a cult not to know the real life story of their hero, the historical truth…It is not surprising that Guevara’s contemporary followers, his new post-communist admirers, also delude themselves by clinging to a myth—except the young Argentines who have come up with an expression that rhymes perfectly in Spanish: “Tengo una remera del Che y no sé por qué,” or “I have a Che T-shirt and I don’t know why.”

But Obama supporters have a flag of Che and they do know why. The Obama campaign is top-down to the extreme, going so far as to move the DNC’s political apparatus to Chicago. Charles Lemos writes:

Obama is seeking to personify the Democratic Party. No one person personifies the Democratic Party. This is an internal coup following on the heels of the May 31st Rules and By-Laws Committee that was anything but democratic, the Democratic Party is now a Bolshevik party.

And like good Bolsheviks, Obama supporters know how to organize, to penetrate and to overtake an existing organization. As George Buchanan reported from Moscow in 1917: “The Bolsheviks, who form a compact minority, have alone a definite political programme. They are more active and better organized than any other group.”

The picture above shows Maria Isabel, a Houston-based volunteer for the Obama campaign. The Houston Fox News 26 report of the Che flag caused a minor ripple when it was reported in February. The Obama campaign issued a weak press release targeted at Cuban-Americans, but they did not explain why the Che image is paired with Obama’s in their headquarters.

Below is another picture from Houston:

Che is the iconic representation for their revolutionary desires. They see themselves as a “enlightened” revolutionaries, people who support direct talks with Raul Castro and Ahmadinejad. See below Victor’s page at mybarackobama, one of many with pro-Che sentiments:


Although the images and words of Che are ubiquitous in the Obama campaign, Obama himself has silenced his more vocal supporters. Maria Isabel, interviewed on the Spanish language Enrique Y Joe radio show, told the hosts that the Obama campaign:

advised her that she could continue to speak on behalf of the campaign but was “prohibited” from talking about the flag because “what happens, what happens is that is that there are a lot of groups that, well, some people like Che Guevara and other people don’t like Che Guevara and that if I appear on television talking about the flag it would cause a lot of distractions.” When asked who told her that, she answers flatly, “Barack Obama.”

Why did Obama himself muzzle one of his own volunteers? Could it be that Obama actually knows Che’s history better than his supporters? Or does Obama understand that much of his success is due to his own branding as a post-communist-Marxist, revolutionary figure who will transform the culture, end war, let the young run the country, and redeem the United States?

Is it because Obama is aware of Che’s allure? Is Obama familiar with “José Luis Montoya, a Mexican police officer who battles drug crime in Mexicali, [and] wears a Che sweatband because it makes him feel stronger”?

Whatever the reason for Obama’s censorship of Isabel, it’s not because of the crimes and human-rights abuses Che committed; for Obama Che is purely political currency.

In reality, Che Guevara, the man adorning the walls and blogs of Obama supporters, stated his belief in

hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.

And this revolutionary “hero” was guilty of many, many murders:

In January 1957, as his diary from the Sierra Maestra indicates, Guevara shot Eutimio Guerra because he suspected him of passing on information…Later he shot Aristidio, a peasant who expressed the desire to leave whenever the rebels moved on

Once the Batista regime was overthrown, Che was placed in charge of La Cabaña prison. During his brief time there, hundreds, and perhaps as many as two thousand people were murdered at the hands of Che and his henchmen:

there were about eight hundred prisoners in a space fit for no more than three hundred: former Batista military and police personnel, some journalists, a few businessmen and merchants. The revolutionary tribunal was made of militiamen. Che Guevara presided over the appellate court. He never overturned a sentence…I pleaded many times with Che on behalf of prisoners. I remember especially the case of Ariel Lima, a young boy. Che did not budge

While Obama may have no scruples about seducing the young with a sanitized version of Che Guevara, the truth about the South American revolutionary reveals that his sentiments were more like Joseph Stalin than Robin Hood. Certainly with degrees from Columbia and Harvard, Obama knows this truth. What does this tell us about him?

  • avwrobel

    I think Obambi and his close associates are just using the ‘counter-revolutionary’ imagery and beneath-the-radar vibrations to keep up excitement for them. He’s just using them to consolidate power. Just like George Bush did with the social conservative Republicans. Just what did Bush ever really deliver for them? Except for shoveling tax-payer money into faith-based programs, Not a damn thing. On the issue of his birth certificate though, I really think that someone should file a lawsuit in a public way to force Obambi to prove his U.S. citizenship.

    • Dawnelle

      hahaha JOhn Stewart just DISSED Obama’s fake presidential seal and is now dissing him lying about public financing!

      hahahahah

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        Yes!!!

        • StrawberrybitesBarky

          Dollars to donuts, Jon is getting death threats as we speak.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            You know that.

      • Brendy

        You’re kidding??!! Great! I thought he loved Obama. I know comedians make fun of EVERYONE, but I really didn’t think he’d diss Obama! YES!!!

    • Dave_Not_For_Obama

      Monday, June 23, 2008
      Obama’s political prisoner Larry Sinclair freed

      A Capitol Hill source close to Larry Sinclair reports: Larry Sinclair is free!

      Sinclair was transfered from DC jail to a Delaware courtroom this morning.

      The Delaware judge immediately released Sinclair on his own recognizance after a perfunctory hearing this afternoon.

      Apparently, the “fugitive warrrant” used was not really issued from Delaware

      But rather the “fugitive warrant” was fabricated in DC – perhaps likely by the US Attorney’s office. This of course suggests high level political corruption.

      SHAME OBAMA SHAME

      • Elizabeth

        stop your lies and attacks on Obama….if you are so sure of your views, please provide proof that Obama fabricated the arrest of Larry Sinclair…you guys show such ignorance in your slamming of Obama – it is unbelievable.

        • Andy Lewis

          Another Obamabozo heard from.

          • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

            I’m glad to hear from a Bot. I thought they’d already committed mass suicide in response to His Holiness retiring the Seal.

            Hang in there, Elizabeth. The kool aid drip is slowing down…

            • WildChild

              Don’t the BOBOweenies get picked up by the space ship circling the sun after the mass suicide? Or are they the ones that get a preordained number of virgins?

              • Diana

                roflmao They’re the so called educated ones, but I don’t think it’s a space ship. It was a comet wasn’t it? Or was it a space ship disguised as a comet? Who can keep up?

                This sickens me. Let’s all worship a man, who worships a man that rounded up Gay people and sick people to put them in camps to face a firing squad. He achieved nothing but the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. The original smooth talker. But, Obama is not a Marxist who sat in the same church for 20 years that preached Black Liberation Theology and was proud of it. Who then subject his children to the vile. No, no, no we’re the racists and bigots. It’s not racist at all that 90% of AA are voting for the man based on the color of his skin. Not his achievments, what he’s done for their communities. What he’s done for any of us. The only racism Obama has ever been subjected to is the racism he brought into his own life. Which he continues to bring.

                Hope and change. “Just words” The same thing his cousin used in his campaign a man accused of the genocide of over 600 Christians. Raila Odinga. The agent of change. Vote for Change, register for change, and if you don’t we’ll burn you and your children alive in churches.
                http://www.raila07.com/

                Obama the great Divider, as if we’re not already divided enough. Blah, blah, blah.

                Here’s a great article on what a wonderful man Che was:
                http://www.slate.com/id/2107100/

        • StrawberrybitesBarky

          Look beth, if you don’t like the conversation, please feel free to take your considerable bum the hell out of here. I’ve run out of patience with Obama trolls. A swift kick in the ass is in order. Twank.

        • JAY in Los Angeles

          But you show ignorance in your support of him, and this is somehow more noble?

      • hats

        So glad to hear justice prevailed. YEAH LARRY SINCLAIR! Shame on the messiah for fabricating a fugitive warrant. Destroy the opposition according to Odinga and Obama.

    • Linda K

      I asked by M.C. to check into Obama’s birth certificate. Please, if everyone who reads this contacts their M.C. then perhaps one of them will actually do this. After all, this is election year for the entire House of Reprsentatives, and a lot of the Senate as well.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    Did they get the Che gear from Frank Marshall Davis, Communist and key Obama mentor?

    Great work, Bud White.

    It’s been a heck of a day here at NQ. The astrotrolls are reeling and the hits just keep a’coming!

    • Anonymous

      Paul do you have any information relating to this? A fabricated warrant is being alleged in this report:

      Sinclair was transfered from DC jail to a Delaware courtroom this morning.

      The Delaware judge immediately released Sinclair on his own recognizance after a perfunctory hearing this afternoon.

      Apparently, the “fugitive warrrant” used was not really issued from Delaware

      But rather the “fugitive warrant” was fabricated in DC — perhaps likely by the US Attorney’s office. This of course suggests high level political corruption.

      This information is very troubling.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        I do not have any info on this, anonymous. But it sure sounds fishy and bears looking into if there is anything to it.

        I would imagine Larry will have something to say about this if this tidbit is accurate. We’ll have to stay peeled to his blog and words.

        • Anonymous

          We do know Sinclair is free since he is posting on his blog again.

          The MSM won’t touch this story so it will be up to the blogosphere to get to the truth.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            Absolutely, and we will work to do just that.

            Larry is a brave man, without a doubt. Thank goodness for him and people like Reverend Manning who see Obama for what he is and are engaged in stopping his wannabe-Che Bolshevism.

            • Anonymous

              Some more info here:

              Larry Sinclair and the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree of Change We Can Believe In.

              Larry Sinclair was freed early this evening and he is back and he is not going away. As Americans, we all need the answers to the questions surrounding Mr. Sinclair arrest.

              Questions about:

              Given that many influential politicians and media people knew with reasonable certainty what Mr. Sinclair was likely to say before the National Press Club and fully realized that the allegations that he and Sen. Barrack Obama engaged in the illegal use of cocaine and consensual gay sex in 1999 would be politically damaging to the Senator, were any legal processes encouraged to be bent, relaxed, expanded, manipulated, or bastardized in relation to the issuance of Mr. Sinclair’s arrest warrant, its timing of execution or location of execution?

              • http://nomoresilentmajority Martio

                Is there going to be a reenactment to the way things are going in Zimbabwe? I was worried about that at our caucus in Texas, the Obamaites seemed mighty confrontational. Obama seems to like the fact that his FOLLOWERS are nasty. He adds fuel to the fire and that comes from his 20 years at Trinity.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    New Obama theme song (to the music of “I Love LA” by Randy Newman (sp?)):

    “I love ya,Che!”

    “We love him!”

    • Bud White

      LMAO!

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        Thanks for your piece, Bud. Keep up the good fight, brother!

        Together we will vanquish the Obama Red Menace.

        ;)

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    Another excellent post, Bud. Thanks.

    Barky is a wanna be rap star and a wanna be revolutionary. What we’re discovering is that he’s about as revolutionary as Richard Nixon. He’s a two-faced punk who manipulated his way into politics with the help of chicago crooks.

    I imagine that even his marxist sympathies are posturing for self promotion.

    Che, my ass. He’s a fool.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

      Amen, Medusa.

      Bwak is a straight-up poser, a joke. He is about as authentic as Pat Boone singing gospel.

      Bye bye, Bambi. DO NOT WANT!

  • JoseyJ

    Obama’s presidential seal – GONE for good!!
    LOL
    Obama’s bad judgment on display – again!
    Gee – we could all see how arrogant and elitist it appeared. But Obama couldn’t – until AFTER it was unveiled and the negative reactions began rolling in.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/23/obama%E2%80%99s-presidential-seal-gone-after-one-use/

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      Well not really gone for good. Plenty of us still have photos. Heh.

      • wry

        Has anyone commented on the fact that the Flag of the United States is displayed next to the Che “flag”?
        That’s not a proper way to display the Flag. It’s disrespectful.

        • hats

          Disrespectful people do disrespectful things.

          Is there any hope for the messiah to instruct his followers to demonstrate proper repsect and beahvior, if it has not happened yet?

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      I’m glad it’s gone. For a second there I thought he was going to invade Poland next.

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        Or annex Alsace and Lorraine…

      • zerostress

        Or Irak.

    • Brendy

      Obama stated the seal was ‘supposed’ to be used for only one day. Go to all that trouble designing that stupid seal for only ONE day?? Reah…right; he got made fun of and maybe he began to worry about legal action being taken against him for copying/defacing the ‘offical’ seal.

      Can you believe the ignorance AND the arrogance of this guy? Haven’t his supporters caught on to him yet, or aren’t they embarrassed that they’re actually supporting someone as ‘dumb’ as this?

    • Perry Logan

      But wait! I’ve perfected Obama’s seal:
      http://perrylogan.org/images/SP-Seal2.jpg

      • Kevin

        funny, but now you owe comedy central royalties

  • http://www.obama-wire.com D

    No Friend of Che…..or Obama

    http://www.obama-wire.com

  • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

    Gotta love those revolutionaries who live home with their parents and get their needs taken care of for free. Plenty of time to revolt just so long as they are home for dinner and Mom has done their laundry. Funny how when their parents finally tell them to get their asses in gear and start paying for their own damned shelter, cell phone, car, food, insurance and heat, The Revolution kind of takes a back seat.

    • Joe

      They pretend to be Che supporters to try to act hip and cool only because their own lives are pretty pathetic, depressing and without any obvious purpose or meaning. In other words, they are total losers.

      • hats

        Soooo puzzling people would support a revolutionary that murders, or a candidate that inspires support thereof.

  • rikc

    You can bet the gop have lots of those “seal” photos as well…And I’m sure they won’t have any problem using them! :)

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      Well I know that I myself will have no problem using them!

  • rikc

    I wont have a problem using them either, in fact one is already a sig on my email. Every time I get a reply saying I made it up, I send them the other pics of the “chosen one” sitting or standing behind his “seal”

  • Cry Me A River

    You think Che’s flag is up there in these places by “mistake”? Think again!

    These people are TRUE BELIEVERS in “La Revolucion” and Obama is their man now.

    For example. Read a few comments I pulled off a “progressive” site for Obama. It tells you where they are at:

    “These are really interesting observations (about Obama) and they point to the challenges that progressives and revolutionaries face.”

    “Obama is riding a wave. We are the wave–the wave is the movement. It is the strength of the social forces and their level of organization that will determine what Obama can or can’t do.” (Yea, right!)

    “Progressives, Leftists, and Revolutionaries must stop asking Obama to do their job for them. He has already brought together the most progressive social forces in the country. It is time we did some organizing too.”

    It’s no accident the Communist Party of America, and other far-FAR lefties like and want Obama…he is their “empty suit” and fills their “need” for bringing down what they feel is a corrupt system, i.e. America!

    Unfortunately, (or maybe fortunately in their case!) they are being used by Obama, just like every other group out there that supports this fraud. He is a MASTER MANIPULATOR and will say just what you need to hear to get your support. Then throw you under the bus when your usefulness ends…

    • blueasthesky

      “These are really interesting observations (about Obama) and they point to the challenges that progressives and revolutionaries face.”

      One of the challenges that revolutionaries face is that if they fail, they can be imprisoned or executed. What do these so-called “progressives” have on the line that’s comparable to that? If Barky loses, he’ll just go back to the Senate, and failing that, can still make big bucks on the college lecture tour. Kos will still be able to shake down politicos for ad revenue and perhaps a little quid pro quo for a favorable post or two.

      Whatever you think of Che and his political agenda, at least he was willing to put himself in great danger for it.

  • TuhTuhTuhTorrance

    Does anyone really believe the seal “was a one time thing for a one time event” as Obama’s camp is now saying? Just how gullible do they think we are?

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

      Exactly.

      This was the start of the latest manipulative ploy to make the sale that Bambi ‘is’ the prez.

      Not!

      What a clown.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

        Maybe he just figured he could skip all those time consuming, boring steps and just be Affirmative Actioned into the Presidency. You know, why bother with all that work.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

          That does seem to be the strategy, doesn’t it? :)

        • Brendy

          He’s already thrown out there that McCain and the republicans are going to use the race card against him, so we just might as well go ahead and give him the presidency. It worked with Hillary! Affirmative Action in action!

  • baby_puppy

    Having this huge picture up at a Democratic campaign site is just ridiculous. Ludicrous. These orks remind me more of Jim Jones everyday.

    Truly weird.

  • John

    ¡Che pasa!

    I wonder if even Zell Miller knew how right he was in 2004 when he said that his party had been taken over by the far left, and “the far, far left.”

  • http://www.obama-wire.com D
    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      Quit hawking your site. You look like a self serving dickhead.

      If you have something relevent to say, shout it out. All you posts hawking your site are getting a little lame.

  • Pink Panther

    Interesting exchanges going on at gretawire between Hillary/McCain supporters and obama minions. go to http://gretawire.foxnews.com

    • Anonymous

      Looks like the unity wagon has four flat tires. ;)

  • Chicago Joe

    Is anyone out there a lawyer? I agree with post that someone should sue—would it fall under FIA??—- to get the actual birth certificate and his complete medical records. What the heck is the MSM doing with all of this information?

  • Dave_Not_For_Obama

    Every black man that runs for office is not a saint, nor a victim. It is not our responsibility as African Americans to vote for him, protect him from legitimate criticism, or turn a blind eye to his glaring short comings because of a coincidence of pigmentation.

    BRAVO!!
    BRAVO!!

  • kat in your hat

    GAWD!! Oh no.

    Now N. Korean communist KIM JONG-IL wants Obama!!!

    http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ea_nkorea0256_06_19.asp

    • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

      ROFL kat. Another endorsement. That makes four if you include Castro, Hamas and Chevas. The guy is a regular terrorist magnet.

      • http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com Uppity Woman

        Hey Maybe Osama will endorse him next. Cool huh?

        • Ivory Bill Woodpecker

          Bin Laden’s endorsing Plastic Jesus would be the quintessential cherry on top.

  • Disgusted

    Seems like things aren’t going Obamas way in the bible blt either.

    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – As Barack Obama broadens his outreach to evangelical voters, one of the movement’s biggest names, James Dobson, accuses the likely Democratic presidential nominee of distorting the Bible and pushing a “fruitcake interpretation” of the Constitution.

    For some reason I can’t post the link but if you google Yahoo News, Obama, Dobson you should find the link.

    • Disgusted

      Double post sorry

    • StrawberrybitesBarky

      I’ll take your word for it…Dobson gives me hives.

      • Disgusted

        That bad huh? I don’t even know who he is. Dobson that is.

        • StrawberrybitesBarky

          uh, google him…then start a level 4 decon process complete with a full spectrum antibiotic. Holy water helps too.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      It’s an AP article, and you can see it here.
      http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/23/3428

    • Elizabeth

      And we should EVER listen to what James Dobson says? That guy is a racist, narrow-minded right-wing kook! He is evil to the core, believe me. Can’t believe anyone would quote him for anything…pure rubbish.

      • StrawberrybitesBarky

        No your wardrobe is pure rubbish…no one gives a fying fig what you think. The point is, twank, barky will never get the fundie vote. Or the garlic nose vote, or the bitter white folk vote, or the jewish vote, or the blue collar vote or the Cuban vote or the pissed off woman’s vote. Now scurry back to KOS.

        • Kevin

          Dobson has influence on the right wing side of things. There are people who listen to him.
          Just like there are people who listen to Sharpton, Wright, Pfleger
          Racist left wing kooks
          change one word and the whole meaning changes

    • blueasthesky
    • Fred C. Dobbs

      The sheer irony of Dobson calling someone else’s agenda a, “fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution,” is cool and sweet as a …wait for it… canteloupe.

      (And you thought I was gonna say, “watermelon,” didn’t you?)

  • Disgusted

    Obama isn’t having much luc in te bible belt either.

    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – As Barack Obama broadens his outreach to evangelical voters, one of the movement’s biggest names, James Dobson, accuses the likely Democratic presidential nominee of distorting the Bible and pushing a “fruitcake interpretation” of the Constitution.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    Obama is a radical. Was a radical, will be a radical. This is who he is and has worked assiduously to become.

    He didn’t marry “Whitey” on accident. They are soulmates in anti-Americanism and racial balkanization.

    BaJoke thinks he is a latter-day Che. Remember the story of the FARC member who’s computer supposedly had Obama stuff on it. Well, now we understand more why. FARC is a revolutionary outfit, Che was a revolutionary and Barack thinks he is a revolutionary.

    All of this fits perfectly.

    This man, this fraud, has laid himself bare for all the world to see.

    He is a former Muslim who extolled the benefit of race-baiting in his first book. He took up with an anti-American wife and has been advised by those disdainful of whites for 20 years. Not to mention Frank Marshall Davis, his Communist mentor, before all of this.

    There is no secret to Obama. He is exactly what you think he is when you let yourself imagine the worst. And it’s not about race. William Ayers is a dirtbag loser and he’s white. Same with Pfleger, and Dohrn.

    There are no ‘makeovers’ to cover this up. Barack Obama is a dangerous, militant radical who employs NOI members. If people don’t understand what he is about and what he wants to do with our great nation, then they are not paying attention. He IS a Bolshevik and he DOES want to institute his Stalinism. We’ve all experienced this bent and now we are learning more of where it comes from for Stick Man.

    This guy is the greatest internal danger our country has faced for as long as I can recall. Electing him would be like handing over the Oval Office to Benedict Arnold.

  • kat in your hat

    HELP. PUMAS! ALERT: TELL THEM YOU ARE A PUMA! I DID!

    CYNTHIA LOWNEY urges us to please call NY1 NEWS (212-691-6397) to point out that HILLARY DID NOT CONCEDE; she suspended her campaign… “I called NY1. Someone who said she was an editor said that SHE WILL NOT CORRECT THE statement that HRC conceded because I was the ONLY person who called..I directed her to HRC’s speech and she said that she will still NOT change the wording because, “We disagree”….I asked why NY1 NEWS did not fact-check their “opinion” – she said because HRC did concede….”

    Isn’t it wonderful when news organizations do not let facts interfere with opinions? And what happened to logic?

    http://clintondems.com/2008/06/channel-one-persists-in-saying-hrc-conceded/

    • Al

      Kat,
      January 24 @ 9:30 am EST:
      NY1 said that Hillary has stated that she has conceded and that I am wrong. The woman who answered the phone at NY1 was nasty and rude and kept telling me that Hillary is now supporting Barky(yes I know that) and that she has suspended and conceded(she’s confused)?What is going on?!

  • VRWC – We don’t like Che either Dept.

    Some say that one of the reasons that Khrushchev backed down in the Cuban missile crisis was that he worried about what the Cuban gov’t would do if they got control of the Soviet nuclear missiles. See Humberto Fontova’s article on Castro at http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=912, where Fontova says, “Khrushchev documents in his memoirs how Castro pleaded with him to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack on the U.S. in October of 1962. The telegram making the plea sits in the Kennedy Library today.”

    I’m not about to journey to the Kennedy Library to verify that claim, but clearly it is a testable claim.

    Fontova says that Guevara told the London Daily Worker in November 1962 (and maybe a library denizen visiting this Website can check up on it and confirm the quote): “If the missiles had remained, we would have used them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. We must never establish peaceful co-existence. In this struggle to the death between 2 systems we must gain the ultimate victory. We must walk the path of liberation even if it costs millions of atomic victims.”

    Words mean things. Obama says so, so it must be true! Yet it is true.

    I think many of us have seen Guevara’s prose where he poetically glorifies bloody revolutionary violence. If fun is to be made of them, it shouldn’t be gentle. And his words were matched with action.

    “Tengo una remera del Che y no sé por qué” – That’s worth memorizing.

  • kat in your hat

    Uppity, ya, really:

    Don’t forget Daniel Ortega, Farrakhan, and the New Black Panther Party, domestic terrorist Ayers and Dorhn, and PLO buddy Khalidi.

    BLEGH!!!!!

    ahhhhhh!!!!!!!

  • Keyser Söze

    I’ve got nothing against Che. On the contrary. I also remember it was Henry Kissinger who wanted his head on a silver platter. Any Kissinger/Rockefeller fans out there? I thought not.

    Nor is there anything toxic about Cuba. That whole Cuba thing is total nonsense.

    I absolutely despise Obama but this is not repeat NOT the way to go.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      Che was Castro’s confidant and right hand man in the Cuban Revolution. Che was the sociopathic Himmler to Castro’s Hitler.

      Che Guevara’s and Castro’s regime shattered, through executions, jailings, mass larceny and exile, virtually every family on the island of Cuba.

      Many opponents of the Cuban regime qualify as the longest-suffering political prisoners in modern history, having suffered prison camps, forced labor and torture chambers for a period three times as long in Che Guevara’s Gulag as Alexander Solzhenytzin suffered in Stalin’s Gulag.

      “Nothing toxic about Cuba”? You are dreaming.

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        To leave no doubt about Obama’s Marxist ideology, look no further than his top foriegn policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

        Brzezinski is a whole new breed of Marxist. One that already slipped into the mainstream as Jimmy Carters national Security Advisor.

        Here are excerpts from Brzezinski’s book “Between Two Ages”.

        On page 72, Brzezinski writes: “Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief.”

        On page 83, he states: “Marxism disseminated on the popular level in the form of Communism, represented a major advance in man’s ability to conceptualize his relationship to his world.”

        On page 123, we find: “Marxism supplied the best available insight into contemporary reality.”

        Obama’s top advisor advocates that Marxism is a victory, Marxism is a major advance in man’s ability, and Marxism has the best insight for the contemporary world.”

        • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

          And if that does not scare you enough, google Zbig, and read all about his plan for a “New World Order”, where the US Constitution is quaint and no longer useful.

          Then read about his plan to use technology to track the every movement of every citizen, not just the bad guys.

          Don’t think so? That is the favorite part of governing for a Marxist, total control of the citizenry. Think Communist China, Soviet Union, Stalin, Mao, Castro…

          Our Democracy and Liberties are fragile and we better be vigilent or we will lose them.

    • memyself&i

      I am no fan of Kissinger, but I would take him over Che any day.

      I am constantly shocked by people’s readiness to defend and glorify communist terrorists like Che.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    “The solutions to the world’s problems lie behind the Iron Curtain,” stressed Ernesto Che Guevara who often signed his correspondence with the moniker “Stalin II.” “If the nuclear missiles had remained (in Cuba) we would have fired them against the heart of the U.S. including New York City,” he boasted. “The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.”

    If you want to see how Che, Liberation Theology, Black Liberation Theology, Obama’s Church, and Obama all tie together, watch this video.

    http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

    That was no earthquake. It was Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Reagan turning over in their graves.

  • AA4HILL

    Obamaites Threaten to Kill Rev Manning
    Rev Manning I’m willing to die to expose that Devil Obama.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TEbIPOHNBQ

    • zerostress

      I’ve listened up to the point (21 seconds into a 7 minutes video)where he called Obama “the product of a white trashy mother” and I had enough data to classify him: racist.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Robbedvoter
  • DeadEnder1

    Off Topic A Bit.

    Just would like to congratulate all the PUMAs who were involved in Operation Salon, 23 June 2008.

    This was a very successful raid.

    You turned them inside out, and in the end you got some valuable intelligence(recipes).

    PUMAs are carnivores; guerrilla armies travel on their stomachs.

    Every day is a good day for a new recipe.

    It was hilarious as hell to watch!

    Viva La Revolucion!

    Venceremos!

    PUMAs

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright

    Most of his young supporters think Ontonio Banderas is Che Guevera. And all the history they now about Che the got watching Madonna’s Evita.

    But then they also think that Reverend Wright was misrepresented by 30 seconds of sound bites from a life time of good work.

  • btintaos

    Che was known for executing gays in his time. At least Barack and Che don’t have that in common…or do they?

  • missE

    Hey Bud,

    Great post, couldn’t stop reading Alvaro Vargas Llosa’ account of Che.

    Check out http://www.chebama.com/

    The site is anti Che & Obama.

  • siti connery

    Off Topic…i dont think Senator Liberman openly endorsed John Mccain is wrong..Apparently,DNC is not happy…http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1817122,00.html?imw=Y

  • suskin

    I am a long time HRC supporter who has graviated away from the blogs because the blogs are either OBAMA bulshit blind or a little too HRC loyalist cheerleader. So basically I am homeless. The only blog I visit, from time to time, is No Quarter.

    But, while I tend to keep my thoughts to myself, I decided to post because, I am thinking, there are probably others out there, like myself, who might need to know they are not alone.

    I will not vote for Obama (for president – I voted for him for US Senate). And I guess, that leaves McCain. If I can’t vote for HRC, Mc Cain’s the next best choice. I am not one to say bad things about other people, but I have spent some time with liars, unfortunately, liars whom I love a great deal, and I can spot one when I see one, and BO is a liar, plain and simple. He’s not only inexperienced, and unprepared, but he’s a liar. You can tell when he is lying because he lifts his head and talks ideallistically as if he has a halo around his head. and then there’s that split second, when he glances about, to see if anyone has caught him. No one has. The MSM is having a Homosexual moment – which is ironic because most homosexuals I know see right through BO – but the men are experiencining tingles up their legs and the women are rejecting their masculine partners, and there is a luv fest going on with this fraud of frauds, that the more grounded people of the US, don’t see or understand.

    It could be worse, I mean, the Repubicans nominated their arch enemy, friend of the Democrats, McCain, after all.

    I have always admired McCain, and it’s the kind of admiration that can forgive the party politics of late, (think off shore drilling) and I would be more than happy to vote for McCain for President. But before I send a check, I will wait to see, if there is any chance for HRC. The world is in trouble, we need a real leader, we need HRC. Maybe, just maybe, the dumbshits who are leading the Dem party might see that before it is too late. But it doesn’t seem likely so – my dollars will go to McCain and to defeat the DNC.

  • sleepy

    Let’s see, a few Obama supporters had a flag of Che on the wall.

    Out of how many Obama supporters? .00001 percent total with a Che flag?

    Yet this gets a whole thread comparing Obama supporters to Che supporters based on an absolutely statistically insigniciant number.

    It’s meaningless.

    • Diana

      It’s not meaningless when it’s in his own office. Not his supporters.

  • kat in your hat

    Nah, you know what’s really meaningless?

    Obama’s word.

    • sleepy

      Threads on Obama’s changing his policies is one thing, this sort of thinly veiled red-baiting is something different altogether–commie under the bed stuff.

      Reminds me of repub sites proclaimng Hillary is a Maoist because her poster with the sun bore some slight resemblance to an old Mao poster of 50 yr. ago.

  • nobama

    something is wrong with nobama.

  • Nobama

    Che sucks

  • steveeboy

    you know what’s really funny?

    In a thread full of conspiracy bullshit about the secret stalinism of obama–based on one office having a che flag and some anonymous blog posters using psuedo marxist/revolutionary language, one of you whack jobs posts the following:

    “This was a very successful raid.”

    “PUMAs are carnivores; guerrilla armies travel on their stomachs.”

    “Viva La Revolucion!”

    “Venceremos!”

    • Rob in Chicago

      You bots swing in here with your matvelous mind-reading abilities and abilities to ascertain W.O.R.M., and think that you can determine what regular posters to this site mean or think or believe based on a snapshot of a single comment. Steveeboy, we really don’t want or need your pseudo-psychic abilities; save them for your headcase candidate.

  • Bella

    Chenge!

  • http://www.obama-wire.com Paul

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    We don’t care for Che

  • Elizabeth

    BTW there is another Elizabeth on this board who is an Troll.

    Do I need to change to another name so no one confuses the two of us.

    I am NO OBAMA …Hillay all the way or if I must – McCain. Unlike the troll who is posting here with the same name.

  • revoltnow

    im sick of people trying to call obama a socialist. obama is nowhere near a socailist, he is not change, he is not hope, he supports the bailout, the afganistan war, and opposses gay marraige. he is still just like most republicans and democrats, a far right, ultra conservative, corporate, fascist. i am a revolutionary and fuck anyone who says that obama is cause he’s not and if he was i’d vote for him. fuck faux news who thinks he’s a socialist. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

  • http://www.che-lives.com Arnold

    CHE = HERO

    OBAMA = HERO

    THIS SITE = DOUCHEBAGS

  • Freddy G

    Nothing brings out the ditto-head echo-chamber of self-isolating Reich-wing delusional idiocy better … than the heroic Che Guevara.

    American Conservative propaganda would make Goebbels blush.

  • Viva Van Jones

    “Che’s life is an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom. We will always honor his memory.” — Nelson Mandela

  • The Anti-Wacker

    Wow, I thought that the Ron Paulies were strange, but you guys got them beat hands down.  What’s on the menu today?  Kool-Aid or Teabagging?