Comments on: Barack’s Bullshit Healthcare Bamboozlement http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: FranSC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254713 FranSC Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:28:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254713 Murray, this is what Rahm Emmanuel and Nancy Pelosi have been doing since 2004 at least - recruiting democrats to run against republicans, and in many cases, well-entrenched republicans. This is how the democratic majority in both the house and senate was achieved. Democrats and republicans trying to defeat the other is fundamental to our democracy. But, these campaigns have been run Emmanuel's Chicago way. There has been an endless supply of money that was raised by a venture capitalist firm in Nancy Pelosi's CA congressional district. In addition, this is the same firm that Pelosi introduced Barack 0bama to before 2007 after these two played a huge role in helping recruit 0bama to run for president. This firm, Hummer Winblad, was the mastermind, NOT Barack 0bama, behind the $750 Million dollars raised on 0's behalf. One example of the dirty work Pelosi and Emmanuel have done to accomplish the take-over by the dems is Minnesota's 6th District Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann during her 2008 re-election campaign. Bachmann herself said Pelosi came to her district and told her constituents, "Michele Bachmann is a disgrace to the congress." Pelosi then presented Bachmann's male opponent with a $100,000 check for his campaign. Thankfully, Bachmann overcame Pelosi's dirty tricks, narrowly winning re-election. As a life-long democrat, I was and am incensed by this kind of dirty politics. So much so that I am now an independent. Murray, this is what Rahm Emmanuel and Nancy Pelosi have been doing since 2004 at least – recruiting democrats to run against republicans, and in many cases, well-entrenched republicans. This is how the democratic majority in both the house and senate was achieved. Democrats and republicans trying to defeat the other is fundamental to our democracy. But, these campaigns have been run Emmanuel’s Chicago way.

There has been an endless supply of money that was raised by a venture capitalist firm in Nancy Pelosi’s CA congressional district. In addition, this is the same firm that Pelosi introduced Barack 0bama to before 2007 after these two played a huge role in helping recruit 0bama to run for president. This firm, Hummer Winblad, was the mastermind, NOT Barack 0bama, behind the $750 Million dollars raised on 0′s behalf.

One example of the dirty work Pelosi and Emmanuel have done to accomplish the take-over by the dems is Minnesota’s 6th District Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann during her 2008 re-election campaign. Bachmann herself said Pelosi came to her district and told her constituents, “Michele Bachmann is a disgrace to the congress.” Pelosi then presented Bachmann’s male opponent with a $100,000 check for his campaign. Thankfully, Bachmann overcame Pelosi’s dirty tricks, narrowly winning re-election.

As a life-long democrat, I was and am incensed by this kind of dirty politics. So much so that I am now an independent.

]]> By: morris1030 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254572 morris1030 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:17:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254572 The plan may not cover illegals, but when an illegal shows up in the Emergency Room, they are treated, and we are paying for this. Hence Wilson's outburst. Wilson is probably right, but interrupting POTUS isn't a great thing to do. Presidents speak to theose that voted for them and those that didn't and the whole world watches. This was not a smart thing for the GOP to shoulder. There are many forums for calling out the president and/or his policies, but while he is in the middle of a speech it's er....not a winner. The plan may not cover illegals, but when an illegal shows up in the Emergency Room, they are treated, and we are paying for this. Hence Wilson’s outburst.

Wilson is probably right, but interrupting POTUS isn’t a great thing to do. Presidents speak to theose that voted for them and those that didn’t and the whole world watches. This was not a smart thing for the GOP to shoulder.

There are many forums for calling out the president and/or his policies, but while he is in the middle of a speech it’s er….not a winner.

]]> By: foxyladi14 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254541 foxyladi14 Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:02:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254541 which is nothing.he just speechifies,no presidenting here which is nothing.he just speechifies,no presidenting here

]]> By: Obamastolemycounty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254383 Obamastolemycounty Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:52:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254383 Well, there you go! I will get behind that "change I can believe in". Well, there you go! I will get behind that “change I can believe in”.

]]> By: zaine_ridling http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254311 zaine_ridling Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:28:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254311 Great points, Larry. Whenever a politician brings out the old "waste, fraud and abuse" excuse as a way to pay for a new program, we all know that's the phrase that means, "We have no clue how in hell this gets funded. Charge it to the children's credit cards!" Great points, Larry. Whenever a politician brings out the old “waste, fraud and abuse” excuse as a way to pay for a new program, we all know that’s the phrase that means, “We have no clue how in hell this gets funded. Charge it to the children’s credit cards!”

]]> By: tango http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254283 tango Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:33:22 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254283 Well does your health insurance company offer a choice of plans? So if everyone has the $500 deductible, $25 copay plan with ABC insurance company, can't you just ask ABC company if they have plans that have higher deductibles and copays? And if so, just change plans, not providers. It would seem if it's the same insurance company without a lapse in coverage, then a pre-existing condition clause shouldn't apply. But I could be wrong. And if your insurance company doesn't offer a different plan you can participate in, then yes you would have to worry about pre-existing conditions if changing to a brand new insurance company. Info on Health Savings plans: What Is a “High Deductible Health Plan” (HDHP)? You must have an HDHP if you want to open an HSA. Sometimes referred to as a “catastrophic” health insurance plan, an HDHP is an inexpensive health insurance plan that generally doesn’t pay for the first several thousand dollars of health care expenses (i.e., your “deductible”) but will generally cover you after that. Of course, your HSA is available to help you pay for the expenses your plan does not cover. For 2008, in order to qualify to open an HSA, your HDHP minimum deductible must be at least $1,100 (self-only coverage) or $2,200 (family coverage). The annual out-of-pocket (including deductibles and co-pays) for 2008 cannot exceed $5,600 (self-only coverage) or $11,200 (family coverage). HDHPs can have first dollar coverage (no deductible) for preventive care and apply higher out-of-pocket limits (and copays & coinsurance) for non-network services. http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/public-affairs/hsa/faq_basics.shtml Well does your health insurance company offer a choice of plans? So if everyone has the $500 deductible, $25 copay plan with ABC insurance company, can’t you just ask ABC company if they have plans that have higher deductibles and copays? And if so, just change plans, not providers. It would seem if it’s the same insurance company without a lapse in coverage, then a pre-existing condition clause shouldn’t apply. But I could be wrong. And if your insurance company doesn’t offer a different plan you can participate in, then yes you would have to worry about pre-existing conditions if changing to a brand new insurance company.

Info on Health Savings plans:

What Is a “High Deductible Health Plan” (HDHP)?

You must have an HDHP if you want to open an HSA. Sometimes referred to as a “catastrophic” health insurance plan, an HDHP is an inexpensive health insurance plan that generally doesn’t pay for the first several thousand dollars of health care expenses (i.e., your “deductible”) but will generally cover you after that. Of course, your HSA is available to help you pay for the expenses your plan does not cover.

For 2008, in order to qualify to open an HSA, your HDHP minimum deductible must be at least $1,100 (self-only coverage) or $2,200 (family coverage). The annual out-of-pocket (including deductibles and co-pays) for 2008 cannot exceed $5,600 (self-only coverage) or $11,200 (family coverage). HDHPs can have first dollar coverage (no deductible) for preventive care and apply higher out-of-pocket limits (and copays & coinsurance) for non-network services.

http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/public-affairs/hsa/faq_basics.shtml

]]> By: tango http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254278 tango Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:21:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254278 And he wants to get rid of inefficiency so there goes Biden. And waste too which certainly means Pelosi has got to go. Abuse is also supposed to be stopped so that should cover both Rahm and Axelrod for hoisting Obama on us, Robert Gibbs who abuses us everyday with his smarmy press conferences and Michelle Obama who abuses school kids and servants by making them work in her lead filled garden. Wow, that's a policy I think I can get behind. And he wants to get rid of inefficiency so there goes Biden. And waste too which certainly means Pelosi has got to go. Abuse is also supposed to be stopped so that should cover both Rahm and Axelrod for hoisting Obama on us, Robert Gibbs who abuses us everyday with his smarmy press conferences and Michelle Obama who abuses school kids and servants by making them work in her lead filled garden.

Wow, that’s a policy I think I can get behind.

]]> By: Docelder http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254274 Docelder Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:09:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254274 Our congress people are all now "performing artists". They are all functional ho's. Our congress people are all now “performing artists”. They are all functional ho’s.

]]> By: Martha Washington Collier http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254259 Martha Washington Collier Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:33:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254259 Here's a list of the congressional members of The Democratic Socialists of America. Pretty much the same people who are digging in for public option. That's all I need to know. I didn't even know there was a DSA. Where have I been? Co-Chairs Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07) Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06) Vice Chairs Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33) Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18) Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02) Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10) Senate Members Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT) House Members Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01) Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02) Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31) Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL) Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01) Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03) Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08) Hon. André Carson (IN-07) Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL) Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11) Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01) Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05) Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09) Hon. John Conyers (MI-14) Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07) Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07) Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04) Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03) Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04) Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05) Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17) Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02) Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51) Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04) Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11) Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08) Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04) Hon. John Hall (NY-19) Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17) Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22) Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15) Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02) Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30) Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04) Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09) Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13) Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09) Hon. John Lewis (GA-05) Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02) Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3) Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14) Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07) Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07) Hon. James McGovern (MA-03) Hon. George Miller (CA-07) Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04) Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08) Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL) Hon. John Olver (MA-01) Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04) Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10) Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01) Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15) Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37) Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34) Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01) Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47) Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09) Hon. José Serrano (NY-16) Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28) Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13) Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02) Hon. John Tierney (MA-06) Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12) Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35) Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12) Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30) Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL) Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19) Here’s a list of the congressional members of The Democratic Socialists of America. Pretty much the same people who are digging in for public option. That’s all I need to know. I didn’t even know there was a DSA. Where have I been?

Co-Chairs Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)
Vice Chairs Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members

Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

]]> By: Ferd Berfle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254178 Ferd Berfle Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:00:06 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254178 For future reference, Prima Obot, no one here has any interest in your drug-induced, stream-of-consciousness prattle. Can you tie down that flapping jib of yours for a few days? Thanks For future reference, Prima Obot, no one here has any interest in your drug-induced, stream-of-consciousness prattle. Can you tie down that flapping jib of yours for a few days?

Thanks

]]> By: stodgie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254162 stodgie Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:45:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254162 just me have you lost your frigging mind! don't answer, your post says it all. just me have you lost your frigging mind! don’t answer, your post says it all.

]]> By: Miss Malevolent http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254140 Miss Malevolent Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:06:02 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254140 I'm glad the Rep had a moment of truth come out of his mouth when he shouted, "liar". That's probably the only true thing to come out of Capital Hill in quite some time. I’m glad the Rep had a moment of truth come out of his mouth when he shouted, “liar”.

That’s probably the only true thing to come out of Capital Hill in quite some time.

]]> By: Miss Malevolent http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254137 Miss Malevolent Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:01:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254137 Remember the gloating when someone really heinous comes down the pike, and uses all the power that Obama is shoring up for himself. Just like the Republicans gloated about George, it's not always going to be your guy in power, and allowing this kind of power grab will only serve to destroy America in the long haul. For instance, I believe Obama wants control of your Internets...guess you think that's a great idea... You're naive. Remember the gloating when someone really heinous comes down the pike, and uses all the power that Obama is shoring up for himself.

Just like the Republicans gloated about George, it’s not always going to be your guy in power, and allowing this kind of power grab will only serve to destroy America in the long haul.

For instance, I believe Obama wants control of your Internets…guess you think that’s a great idea…

You’re naive.

]]> By: denisel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254130 denisel Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:52:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254130 Surfered, what state are you in? Surfered, what state are you in?

]]> By: Martha Washington Collier http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/32128/baracks-bullshit-healthcare-bamboozlement/#comment-1254117 Martha Washington Collier Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:30:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=32128#comment-1254117 HAHAHAHA. Watching Beck. I'm going to change my occupation on my 1040 to Performance Artist! HAHAHAHA. Watching Beck. I’m going to change my occupation on my 1040 to Performance Artist!

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