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“Tens of Thousands”

Yes, more numbers to report to you you today. “Tens of Thousands” is the phrase the Washington Post and The New York Times used to describe the numbers of people marching on Washington yesterday, voicing their concerns over the rampant spending by Congress. “Tens of thousands” has apparently become a euphemism for 1.2 - 2 MILLION, since that’s how many showed up on 9/12/09 in Washington. Too bad the Washington Post couldn’t get the “official estimate” – it was available, but hey – why bother with the facts when it is so much easier to just guess and minimize?

No need to take my word for it. Watch this short video (from a traffic camera) to get an idea of just how many people were there (and again, thanks to Logistics Monster, who was THERE, for this video link):



The thing that bugged me about the MSM reporting is that they consistently copied each other – oh, no wait – it just LOOKED that way (check out their opening lines in the articles above and you’ll see what I mean). No, it is that they consistently claimed the marchers were all Conservatives. Apparently, this was their way to dismiss the real anger and frustration people have toward this Congress, whose approval rating is LOW, something else these writers could have looked up easily, and this President, whose ratings continue to decline. They just write them off as some right-wing whackos (1.5 million or so of them), and pay no attention to their actual concerns.

And they have plenty of them. You know, concerns like the fact that the US Government now owning 61% of GM (hey, anyone want to buy a Cadillac?); or that the Obama Administration is adding $3 MILLION to the National Debt EVERY MINUTE; or maybe it’s the 32 czars – oops, make that 31 czars (see ya, Van) Obama is appointing left and right; or the Health Care Bill; or I could go on and on and on. These aren’t just Conservative concerns – these are AMERICAN concerns. But they won’t report it that way, because it doesn’t suit the meme they have created. Had they bothered to talk to some more people on the ground, they would have found out they were Democrats, Independents, and Republicans, all coming together to protest the out of control spending of this Congress and this Administration. To put it in perspective, we are $1 TRILLION more in debt since Obama took office. $ONE TRILLION. Once again, that’s not just an issue for Conservatives. That is an issue for ALL Americans.

Here are some photos of signs at the march – they came via Barbara Espinosa who sent them to Pajamas Media at THIS site. You can see more there:

This video from – of all places – MSNBC – is a fairly good synopsis (though they still couldn’t refrain from painting this as a wholly conservative movement – until the very, very end, when the reporter actually spoke the truth). I saw it at Michelle Malkin’s site while looking for an awesome photo I saw last night, which I have not been able to find again. The sign said, “We Are Not Wee Weed Up: We are PISSED!” If I find it, I’ll add it. Here’s the video:

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This is but a snapshot of the day. There is so, so much more to the events of the day, the numbers of people, the calls for accountability in our government.

For those people who aren’t upset about the added $Trillion to our deficit, the takeover of GM, the unvetted czars, the $Trillion Health Care Plan, etc., etc., those people who are downplaying the size of this march, who blow it off as just some group of conservatives going off half cocked, my question is, Why the hell are you NOT upset at what our government is doing??? Bill Clinton downsized our government tremendously, Bush increased it, and now Obama is bankrupting it. Why AREN’T they upset??

  • Objective Analysis

    State run MSM are so far up obama’s rear end that I don’t know if they can even count how many feet and toes he has.

  • Just Me

    What hypocrisy! What a waste of effort and for what? 59 Million Americans voted against Obama and so the choir sings its partisan song while letting the likes of the do nothing Republicans blow more smoke.

    Before any of you so called conservatives start screaming about those sorry sod Democrats you better clean up your own house first. Start with that bandit Mitch McConnell. Get some REAL leadership in that lost party moving in the right direction..

    For those who marched opposed to both parties and a government out of financial control your message was drowned out by extreme special interest and partisan politics…

    What a waste of effort….

  • Jabiba

    Freedom Works just came out and cut it’s estimate in half from 1+ million to 600,000 – 800,000.

    However, living in maryland and working in DC, I have to tell you that the numbers were much, much lower than that. I was here for the immigration rally a few years ago, and it was much smaller than that. I have also been here for the Race for the Cure every year, and the numbers were much, much smaller than that.

    I am not belittling the size of the crowd — it was substantial (I went down there to see it all, because I had to work that day and on my out went down to the mall on foot).

    But for people to say it was 1.2 – 1.5 million, or even 500,000+, well, it’s just silly.

    GO HILLARY!!!

    • Fifth Dimension

      Freedom Works just came out and cut it’s estimate in half from 1+ million to 600,000 – 800,000.

      Is that like going from an unofficial estimate to an official estimate?

  • Fifth Dimension

    Will the Obots in this thread actually read my post about the DC Fire Dept before making an ass of themselves? Don’t believe us here? Fine. The phone number to call and ask them directly about the numbers is noted right there.

    One wonders if even a single of them still has enough integrity and guts left to look for the truth themselves.

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/08/2nd-thread-michael-jackson-freak-show-rip/#more-27552 mdrockets

    Don’t expect this to be posted but “Real American Patriot” — you’re right.

    I live near DC and had a relative traveling there that day (for other reasons) who had no trouble getting a last minute hotel reservation, traveled on the metro with no problems or waiting, and said the city certainly didn’t seem like a BIG rally was going on — say like an inauguration day or an anti-war protest.

  • AmyD

    facts schmacks.

    “several bloggers and commenters repeated the misinformation.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055

    facts are good, as long as they are, you know, FACTS. Misinformation, bad. That has always been a problem with NQ. You choose sources that fit your beliefs. You know (looking at larry). But, if it makes you feel good.

    Amy

    • Ferd Berfle

      False authority, dink. Yet ANOTHER silly, functionally illiterate obamabot.

      Yeah, we all know AmyDuh that in your world the air is pink, trees are red, and like you–no one has a head.

      Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

      And then you said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

      • Real American Patriot

        Dear Ferd Berfle-

        Fitting.

        “Name calling is both a logical fallacy and cognitive bias, and a technique to promote propaganda. Propagandists use the name-calling technique to incite fears and arouse prejudices with the intent that invoked fear based on fearmongering tactics will encourage those that read, see or hear propaganda to construct a negative opinion about a person, group, or set of beliefs or ideas that the propagandist would wish the recipients to denounce. The method is intended to provoke conclusions and actions about a matter apart from an impartial examinations of the facts of the matter. When employed, name-calling is thus a substitute for rational, fact-based arguments against an idea or belief, based upon its own merits.”

    • Real American Patriot

      “Too bad the Washington Post couldn’t get the “official estimate” – it was available, but hey – why bother with the facts when it is so much easier to just guess and minimize?”

      The irony that your “the facts”, as it turns out, came from the event organizer who got it from twitter and erroneously attributed it to ABC is not lost on those of us who are sane.

      Just because information becomes available doesn’t make them facts.

      (a glimpse into the future of the replies to this post 1) there will be a cute play on my name and in an attempt to insult me 2) I will be called an obamabot 3) and lastly NO ONE will address the heart of my comments, and RRRA’s main post. All of these things are of great interest to rhetoricicians.)

  • checkagain charlie

    wow. even fox news won’t propagate the 2million lie and reports “tens of thousands”. is this wnd or noquarter? i guess everything’s a mouthpiece now. is it at all helpufl to check one’s own facts before writing a lenghty piece of propaganda like this? let’s hold ourselves and the blogs we read to the same standards we’d like to hold the msm.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      I appreciate your concern, but the use of the phrase, “tens of thousands,” is clearly intended to minimize the number of people who attended. Fox News pointed out this attempt – so yes, they may have used the phrase “tens of thousands” in their article the other day, but this morning, they made it quite clear that the numbers were very high indeed.

      If you have ever been in a sports stadium, like, say, Yankee stadium, and have seen it full to capacity, it is evident from all of the photos that there were way more people than the MSM are indicating. Like I said, both the Times and the Post are almost IDENTICAL in how they open their stories – using the “tens of thousands” meme. Ridiculous.

      Or you could just read some of the eyewitness accounts above.

      Btw, I most definitely check my sources – that’s why there are at least FOUR of them cited above. But thanks for the gratuitous insult. A propagandist I am not. Perhaps you’re thinking of DailyKos or Huffpo?

      The point, and I did have one, is the minimization of the numbers by the MSM. With sources to back up that contention, I might add. But thanks for playing.

      • Ferd Berfle

        I, too, have been to large stadia. The number 70K referenced by the MSM is laughable. Do they actually think anyone following any sporting event wouldn’t know the difference between 70K and 700K?

        The MSM urinates on our legs, all the while insisting that it’s raining.

        • Postulate

          The number 70k referenced by the media is from the DC FIRE DEPARTMENT. They are accurately reporting an estimate put out by the DC FIRE DEPARTMENT. Is the DC FIRE DEPARMTNET pissing on your leg? Or are you so deperate for a lame “liberal MSM” talking point that you’re willing to totally ignore facts? Wait, I know the answer to this one already.

          • Fifth Dimension

            I noted the number to call the DC fire dept and ask them yourself regarding the 75,000 number. They themselves are saying that later in the day it was well over that, but that the news media didn’t bother to check in with them after the initial estimate, which was of from where the person could see at the time.

            Feel free to call them, moron.

          • Ferd Berfle

            Pustule, are you still here bothering people? No one cares about what the voices in your head are saying.

            Oh and by the way, posthole, the fire department is not the authority on crowds and their numbers. Your fallacious appeal to false authority has been noted.

            • ~~JustMe~~

              Plus the Fire Dept and police stated today they will never again state the numbers in a protest as in the past it has caused so much
              controversy that is was seen as taking sides.

              So Postulate you can move on and pollute a different site now.

              • Ferd Berfle

                So Postulate you can move on and pollute a different site now.

                LMAO, ~~justme~~.

                I feel sorry for the next site it squats on.

                • ~~JustMe~~

                  So true Ferd!

  • Testing

    So who’s got an ‘official’ link showing the estimates at 1.2-2 million?

  • tango

    Love this where they show the mess left on the green in the last few photos from those attending Obamas inauguration verses the mess left (first photo) after the tea party protesters were leaving:

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/clean-conservatives-filthy-liberals.html

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Holy cow – that is a huge difference! I cannot believe people would leave that kind of mess behind. Heck, I’ve been an environmentalist for as long as I can remember – I would never DREAM of litering like that. Aren’t many of those people supposed to be environmentalists, too?

      Oh, wait – I know – they were just creating jobs – that’s the ticket! Ahem.