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White House To Insurance Companies – “Shut The F**K Up!”

By now, surely you have heard about the White House threatening a Gag Order on insurance companies, Humana in particular out of KY. Why? Because they dare to tell their members what will happen to Medicare Advantage if the current Health Care Bill goes through. Damn their eyes – what are they thinking, giving their members pertinent information on what can happen to their Medicare Advantage Plan? Sheesh! That takes some nerve, don’t it(poor grammar intended)?

But wait, it gets worse. The White House, through Health and Human Services, isn’t just telling them to STF up, they are THREATENING Humana and these insurance companies in general:

The government might take enforcement action against insurers that have tried to mobilize opposition to the legislation by sending their enrollees “misleading and confusing” messages, a senior official of the Department of Health and Human Services said in a memo Monday.

The mailings in question urge enrollees to contact their congressional representatives and protest the legislation, the memo said.

A spokesman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, the industry’s main lobbying group, issued a statement Tuesday criticizing what he described as the government’s “gag order.”

“Seniors have a right to know how the current reform proposals will affect the coverage they currently like and rely on,” AHIP spokesman Robert Zirkelbach said.


Now, all of us who said that Obama was simply going to take Chicago Politics national, raise your hand. Yep – we were all right. Honestly, though, I’d rather be wrong on this, but that ship has sailed. In essence, the White House is saying, “If we don’t like what you’re saying, we’ll come after you.” Nice. Really nice. And we thought Bush was bad. (Remember that? When we were so upset about his “propaganda” through the media? At least he wasn’t threatening private companies who didn’t agree with his proposed policies. Never thought I’d be defending Bush. See what Obama has done to me?!?!)

But I digress.

Remember when all of Obama’s supporters kept touting his legal expertise particularly in terms of the Constitution during the campaign? And I kept saying, “the better to tear it to shreds.” Sure seems to me that’s exactly what he is trying to do with the First Amendment:

Proposed health reform legislation would sharply reduce funding for Medicare Advantage plans, and the insurance industry has been battling to prevent that from happening. The bill unveiled last week by Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, would directly cut payments to Medicare Advantage plans by an estimated $123 billion over 10 years, and it would indirectly reduce funding for those plans by another $15.6 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The big insurer Humana triggered the HHS crackdown with a letter to Medicare enrollees claiming that health reform proposals could hurt “millions of seniors and disabled individuals” who “could lose many of the important benefits and services that make Medicare Advantage plans so valuable.” The letter was sent in envelopes marked “important information about your Medicare Advantage plan — open today!”

HHS wrote to Humana last week instructing it to stop the mailings, and it wrote to all Medicare Advantage plans Monday, saying “such communications are potentially contrary to . . . federal law.” The government regulates communications between the health plans and their members.

Baucus had urged HHS to crack down on the mailings. (Emphasis mine.)

“It is wholly unacceptable for insurance companies to mislead seniors,” he said in a Monday news release. “The health care reform bill we released last week strengthens Medicare and does not cut benefits under the Medicare program — and seniors need to know that,” he said.

The AHIP spokesman countered that if the proposed cuts are enacted, “seniors will face premium increases, reduced benefits, and, in some parts of the country, will lose access to their Medicare Advantage plan altogether.”

Humana spokesman Tom Noland said beneficiaries “deserve to know the impact that funding cuts of the magnitude being discussed would have on benefits and premiums.”

Peter Johnson provided a VERY good overview of the issue in the video below:

Here’s the question this just begs to be asked: If this plan is so great, why is it unable to withstand any real scrutiny without threats of retaliation for stating what is in it? That, to me, is a big, huge red flag that someone is lying here, and it does not seem to be Humana.

Oh, and since I’m on the topic of the Health Care Bill, here is a HUGE issue that may be facing us if this plan, as it is, goes through:

Holy toledo. So, a gag order to insurance companies for telling the truth, and another possible truth we’re not hearing enough about – there likely will not be enough doctors to care for us under this new plan. Yep, no more First Amendment, and not enough doctors willing to provide care under this plan.

Well,that’s just jake.

  • tek

    Just can’t feel sorry for insurance knowing everything I know. They are not our friends.

  • fiscalliberal

    I think the senior health care programs administered by private insurance are 15% more expensive versus basic medicare. I agree – Insurance companies are not our friends.

    They killed Hillary years ago and have had thier Bush Carte Blanche, no hinderence chance to provide this super beneficial system. We have got what they are able to produce.

  • Ferd Berfle

    While I have never liked insurance companies, they have a right to send out whatever they want. The more this Administration acts, the more (and more and more) their MO becomes that of the Administration they succeeded. The only difference is whose pockets are getting lined. What is the same is that middle-class wallets will still be rifled. You want insurance, bots–get a job, actually work at it, and maintain it.

  • Peggy Sue

    It just keeps getting better and better doesn’t it, Amy? Of course, we already had the news on the shortage of doctors but the AMA would have us believe that “all” doctors are just hunky-dory with the proposed bill. But then, there’s that niggling poll last week that said doctors [the ones actually sweating in the trenches] 67% of them were strongly opposed to the current proposals and 45% of the polled group would seriously consider retiring early or simply close their practices. Oooo. Not good stats, which of course were pooh-pooed as an outrageous outlier by the Obamatrons.

    My in-laws are in their early 80s, have the common complaints of their age. But nothing truly serious, yet. But even they are not so dotty and/or uninformed to think that you can cut 500 billion from Medicare and expect the same coverage. Not even close. And they’re worried, as they should be.

    But just like everything with this present political spin–keep ‘em in the dark and maybe they’ll fall back to sleep.

    Too late. People are waking up, finally.

  • Ferd Berfle

    That’s true, tek, but neither is the government. Until there is a real analysis done on healthcare, including a thorough review of all existing healthcare models, complete with pros and cons performed by real professionals and not political scientists, politicians, lobbyists, or some blue-ribbon collection of recycled gasbags, I’ll have to be content with the status quo.

    What is being proposed now will only make matters much worse.

  • HARP

    This comment must be disregarded because it might not conform to Government policy……See how that works?

    Long live the first amendment.

  • olivia1998

    Haven’t you noticed there’s this urgency to push the Bumkiss bill through just like in July. They even voted down a bill today that would have allowed senators, congress and us to read it. That’s our government at work

  • Ferd Berfle

    Long live the first amendment.

    And the other 26, as well. It does appear, however, that Article II is dead as it is apparently unenforceable.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Even Olympia Snowe ask what the great rush was.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    I hear ya, tek, but in this case, the insurance companies are actually trying to do something positive for their members, and are being threatened for exposing some Fed. shenanigans. THAT’S the problem – censorship, and threats. Ah, the Chicago way!

  • Ferd Berfle

    Look, bots, That One is stifling dissent. So much for hope, change, transparency, and new politics. It is the same old, same old. Too bad he saw you rubes coming. Hahaha.

    Gee, where is Prime Obutt? He ought to be over here right now telling us that, “well so-and-so did it so that makes this OK” or “did you know that Sarah Palin did so and so?” or “I’m only 12 and my opinion matters more than yours so I’m going to pollute this website with my Obot prime-grade rubbish”.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    And that’s just it – despite all evidence to the contrary, the Obama (I almost typed “Bush” – that’s telling) people are ADAMANT that no one look closely at thwta they want to do with the Medicare Advantage program.

    I am most definitely NOT a fan of insurance companies, though I admit I have very good insurance through my partner’s company (not that I don’t still have to pay out of pocket for thing s- get this – I had a CO-PAY of $90 that’s NINETY – for a prescription I got the other day. It was one pill. I’m not making this up. One pill – hey, I saved $37, though! Ahem.). But, if they are trying to educate their people on the hooey that is in their bill, that is their DUTY, and they should NOT be threatened with legal action as a result. IMHO, that is.

  • Ferd Berfle

    And that’s just it – despite all evidence to the contrary, the Obama (I almost typed “Bush” – that’s telling) people are ADAMANT that no one look closely

    The more things “change”, the more they stay the same.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Very informative (and scary) post Amy. I’m contacting MY congressman.

  • Peggy Sue

    I agree. I have no love affair with the insurance companies. They’ve been gouging the public for years. But now we have our own government signing on to do the same thing. That Advantage program? I think they said they were cutting 123 billion dollars from that program alone. And the idea that the public isn’t suppose to be informed of the major cuts or what it will mean?

    A gag order, all right. This whole deal makes me want to gag. And why can’t we wait to have the bill marked up by the CBO, you know, so we’ll know what the grand total is?

    It would take 2-3 weeks, wa-a-ay too long.

    Give me a break! We’re being taken to the cleaners, again.

  • Kim

    While I don’t trust insurance companies, I trust the Obama administration and this Congress even less. Humana has the right to inform people what is actually going to happen if and when this health-care reform bill goes through.

  • IndieDogg

    A point being missed. Why is this being cast (here) as a pro or anti-insurance company position?

    Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that the information in the mailing is correct.

    Quite aside from the First Amendment issues (since the Congress does, apparently, regulate such communications as these, presumably that issue has been addressed).

    The point is, no, I do not feel “sorry” for insurance companies. But, I do feel “sorry” for Seniors (and the rest of us) who don’t get information directly relevant to our health care coverage.

    By gagging these companies, the Congress is not only guaranteeing that the companies don’t get to send the information out, they also are guaranteeing that the policyholders do not get to receive it.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Thanks, Tricia. It is scary, isn’t it?

    And THANK YOU, IndieDogg, for reinforcing the point of the post. It isn’t abt insurance companies yay or nay – but CENSORSHIP, threats, and the First Amendment. THOSE are the issues.

    I think this must be one of the new talking points – to try and reframe it as “we can’t support insurance companies because they are evil, so let’s just discount this little episode.”

    This is a big issue for what the Obama Administration is trying to do, again, to private companies. As long as the information they are providing is accurate, they haven’t a leg to stand on, IMHO.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I concur. Hell, I’d rather have MORE information than less. I’m old enough to evaluate such information for myself and don’t need some bureaucratic lackey in some basement in DC deciding what I can and can’t be exposed to.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    True that, Ferd.

    And how abt all of these doctors who will jump ship if this plan goes through? How is that going to affect people who need medical care?

    Yikes.

  • denisel

    Some people are gleeful that the government is trying to gag the insurance companies. They don’t realize that the gag can be used on them too. Our government has enough power already. The more one asks government to do, the more government will tell them what to do. The more power given to the government, the less power for the individual.

  • http://annienyc.blogspot.com annienyc

    lol. You mean Mr. Trajectory can’t help bitter losers like us americans see the truth without shutting up the bad guys? lol. That’s all he’s got? What a freakin’ loser. Big Dawg as first man would had the blue dogs on lockdown day one. Barack Sucks.

  • masslib

    Do you have any idea what Medicare Advantage is? It’s where the feds over pay private insurers by 14% per Medicare recipient. Unless you like your taxpayer dollars being given freely to private companies for something the government can do better and cheaper, why would you ever want these companies, companies for which Medicare has been outsourced to at 14% overpayment to be able to scare Medicare recipients? I mean, they would literally be using money from the federal government to protest the federal government. Your money.

    These people are about to get even more money from the federal government for what the feds can do better and cheaper. Again, your money. Hint, insurers and Obama, they are on the same saide, and it’s not your side.

    Finally, we can always hire more doctors but health care is like a basic human right. So, what’s you point? let the 50 million uninsured just die off because otherwise we don’t have enough doctors? Somehow every other industrialized country seems to manage.

  • Craig Della Penna

    Ferd:

    I generally like your feisty comments, even when I disagree with them. So I hope you’re using the pejorative term ‘bots’ about the few misguided visitors we get here from time to time, not the NQ regulars – because we are definitely not Obama admirers at NQ.

    Just clearing the air here…

  • ConfusedAmerican

    They are starting to get people to like industries they didnt like the insurance companies.

    These gag orders and turn in your friends tactics are getting a bit over powering for me.

  • candymarl

    According to the gentleman in the first video (can’t see the 2nd) the CBO has already confirmed what Humana said. So, according to our own CBO Humana isn’t lying.

    BTW who the hell does Max Baucus think he is? It’s not his job to tell us what we can and cannot read. It’s also not his job to decide for the American people what they should or should not want.

    I thought the Bush bunch was bad with their arrogance, demands, and their attitude that they knew what was best for us.

    This bunch is worse because they lied and said they wouldn’t behave the same way.

    This group is what I predicted, before the election they would be, GWB on steroids.

  • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Oh wow. To be a lawyer for that insurance company right now…. I’d be chomping at the bit to be put on this case!

  • Ellen D

    Yes, there is a lot more that needs to be said about Medicare “Advantage”.
    The quotation marks are because I was in line getting flu shots last year with other seniors. I showed my Medicare card and filled out the free shot Medicare form. I handed the forms on to the seniors behind me and was told in a bitter voice that no, they had to pay for theirs because they had signed up for the “improved” Medicare Advantage.

    I know the Republicans were so big on getting seniors into these government financed HMOs that for a while they wouldn’t let you back into Medicare once you left. There was a big outcry and they had to revise that. I don’t know how it works now.

    I always remember Gingrich saying that they wouldn’t be satisfied until every American was in an HMO.

    I’d love to see the figures but I believe this Medicare subsidization of HMOs is costing Medicare a bundle because of the way the Republicans drafted the rules.

  • Ellen D

    Hi Ferd,

    I believe in freedom of speech but the insurance companies are testing my patience. I am the administrator for 3 companies and no week goes by that I don’t get e-mails from each of the health insurance companies telling me to contact my senator to repeat their talking points.
    Why they think I’m on their side I don’t know. I have to tell people that when they marry, they get charged MORE for their spouse than they pay for themselves! And family coverage is insane.

    Anyway, I don’t believe in gag orders but heaven knows what these companies are telling these seniors. Now that I’ve seen some of the seniors out demonstrating at town halls (and I’m still unclear what they are demonstrating for), I think the insurance companies may think seniors are a soft target.

    Not this one, baby.

  • Fredster

    My parents looked at the “advantage” programs when first signing up for medicare. My dad’s option: Not worth it. You sign up for “their doctors” and “their hospitals” and their pre-approval for anything out of the ordinary, plus having co-pays for doctor visits. He calculated they were better off with regular medicare and a supplement.

    Plus, in the nola area, a bunch of insurance companies were eager to jump into the “advantage” program and then after a year or two dropped them. It did cause some grief for the people signed up for them, trying to get into something else.

  • proud mobster

    I like my Medicare Advantage Plan because it covers everything and every doctor in their plan must accept what’s paid to them.

    Bush knew that Medicare was going broke and thought that partial privatization of Medicare was the way to go. Ten Million people are on the Advantage Plans and most are satisfied with the coverage. But the Dems who swore to strenghten Medicare loathe these plans. Now Medicare and the Advantage Plans will both be cut leaving Seniors to find doctors who will accept reduced Medicare payments.

    What we have here is a boondoggle to end all boondoggles. How are we going to cover millions more people when we don’t plan on recruiting any extra doctors?

  • proud mobster

    I see why all the polls show that people would rather go through private insurance then let the govt run their Healthcare. If this was such a good deal why are they afraid to let Insurance Companies write to their customers?

  • proud mobster

    You would worry when the Govt has now decided that this Healthcare Bill will not be on the Internet at all so that people can read what’s in it. When I sign up for insurance I get a booklet explaining everything they cover. Then its my choice whether I accept it or not. With the Govt bill we will be forced to accept it no matter what the conditions are. I like choice.

  • proud mobster

    You should worry when the Govt has decided that this Healthcare Bill will not be on the Internet at all so that people can read what’s in it. When I sign up for insurance I get a booklet explaining everything they cover. Then its my choice whether I accept it or not. With the Govt bill we will be forced to accept it no matter what the conditions are. I like choice.

  • proud mobster

    Just like Obama did when Obama tried to take over the banks and the CEO’s had to be demonized. Been there — done that.

  • b mathews

    i am on humana and am relatively pleased with it. i like my doctor (who is against this healthcare plan) and want to keep her. i got that “evil” mailing from humana telling me how medicare advantage will be cut. i was a bit surprised because someone out there actually had the audacity to inform seniors of the hard facts about obamacare. how dare the government tell insurance cos to shut up and stop spreading the truth.

  • jardg

    Do you really think that a lack of insurance means a lack of health care? Why do people think that seeing a doctor is a priviledge only for the insured. My doctor won’t even take insurance.

    The argument used to be that it would be cheaper if the uninsured used a doctor rather than the ER for medical care, but no one suggested that without insurance they would die. Talk about hysteria.

    Since when is health care a right? How can that be if care requires a care giver. Are you suggesting that anyone with medical knowledge must now be enslaved to the needs of the masses? Under the proposed plans, would doctors have to forego a day off if someone in need of care was still standing in line? If you have a right to health care, does that include transportation and healthy foods. Should the goverment get you an air filter and water filter as well. Are vitamins and condoms included?

  • Doc99

    OT: Obama’s Safe Schools Czar Hid Pedophilia. Can we stop the insanity now?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Was it the Blue one or the Red one, Rev. Amy?

    I have come to the conclusion that the “fight” the BO disiples are interested in waging is the question of WHO controls the propaganda megaphone. Not the writ the interests of “all the people”. It appears that in aquiring a virtual monopoly of the “bull horn” of politics they can complete the astroturfing (read erasing from our memories) any contray view point. It was present from the beginning of this mess and is get worse every day!

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ferd, especially when they have an ACORN screen savior.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Rev. Amy, the comment thread was interesting because the point of your article was about the constitution and some comments (respectfully) devolved into the pros and cons of health insanity companies.

    This a pattern of BO’s disiples that is all to obvious to some in the crowd. Wrap up the hotdog in a bun, pour some yellow mustard on it and call it a ball park.

    Never focus on the fragments of the Constitution that blew by, just focus on if it was a ball or strike.

    BO can’t have it bothways, that is to allow the insurance companies to do all the crap they do, and then tell them they face prosecution for seeking redress or informing their CUSTOMERS what their views are. The only time I get mail from my elected reps is when it’s election time and they want money. Notifying their constituents of what the “facts” are is political suicide.

    If the CBO has confirmed any of content and found it accurate, then hapless elected fools prove Ben Franklin and Adams correct in their fearful preocupations with preventing the tyrant from gaining even a foot hold.

  • Barbara

    Insurance companies stink worse than Obama:
    http://sickforprofit.com/

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