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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259586</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insurance companies stink worse than Obama:
http://sickforprofit.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurance companies stink worse than Obama:<br />
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259479</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Amy, the comment thread was interesting because the point of your article was about the constitution and some comments (respectfully) devolved into the pros and cons of health insanity companies.

This a pattern of BO&#039;s disiples that is all to obvious to some in the crowd. Wrap up the hotdog in a bun, pour some yellow mustard on it and call it a ball park.

 Never focus on the fragments of the Constitution that blew by, just focus on if it was a ball or strike. 

BO can&#039;t have it bothways, that is to allow the insurance companies to do all the crap they do, and then tell them they face prosecution for seeking redress or informing their CUSTOMERS what their views are. The only time I get mail from my elected reps is when it&#039;s election time and they want money. Notifying their constituents of what the &quot;facts&quot; are is political suicide.

If the CBO has confirmed any of content and found it accurate, then hapless elected fools prove Ben Franklin and Adams correct in their fearful preocupations with preventing the tyrant from gaining even a foot hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Amy, the comment thread was interesting because the point of your article was about the constitution and some comments (respectfully) devolved into the pros and cons of health insanity companies.</p>
<p>This a pattern of BO&#8217;s disiples that is all to obvious to some in the crowd. Wrap up the hotdog in a bun, pour some yellow mustard on it and call it a ball park.</p>
<p> Never focus on the fragments of the Constitution that blew by, just focus on if it was a ball or strike. </p>
<p>BO can&#8217;t have it bothways, that is to allow the insurance companies to do all the crap they do, and then tell them they face prosecution for seeking redress or informing their CUSTOMERS what their views are. The only time I get mail from my elected reps is when it&#8217;s election time and they want money. Notifying their constituents of what the &#8220;facts&#8221; are is political suicide.</p>
<p>If the CBO has confirmed any of content and found it accurate, then hapless elected fools prove Ben Franklin and Adams correct in their fearful preocupations with preventing the tyrant from gaining even a foot hold.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259475</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferd, especially when they have an ACORN screen savior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferd, especially when they have an ACORN screen savior.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259463</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it the Blue one or the Red one, Rev. Amy?

I have come to the conclusion that the &quot;fight&quot; the BO disiples are interested in waging is the question of WHO controls the propaganda megaphone.  Not the writ the interests of &quot;all the people&quot;. It appears that in aquiring a virtual monopoly of the &quot;bull horn&quot; of politics they can complete the astroturfing (read erasing from our memories) any contray view point. It was present from the beginning of this mess and is get worse every day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it the Blue one or the Red one, Rev. Amy?</p>
<p>I have come to the conclusion that the &#8220;fight&#8221; the BO disiples are interested in waging is the question of WHO controls the propaganda megaphone.  Not the writ the interests of &#8220;all the people&#8221;. It appears that in aquiring a virtual monopoly of the &#8220;bull horn&#8221; of politics they can complete the astroturfing (read erasing from our memories) any contray view point. It was present from the beginning of this mess and is get worse every day!</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259376</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT: Obama&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/obamas-safe-schools-czar-kevin-jennings.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Safe Schools Czar Hid Pedophilia.&lt;/a&gt; Can we stop the insanity now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: Obama&#8217;s <a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/obamas-safe-schools-czar-kevin-jennings.html" rel="nofollow"> Safe Schools Czar Hid Pedophilia.</a> Can we stop the insanity now?</p>
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		<title>By: jardg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jardg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you really think that a lack of insurance means a lack of health care?  Why do people think that seeing a doctor is a priviledge only for the insured.  My doctor won&#039;t even take insurance.

The argument used to be that it would be cheaper if the uninsured used a doctor rather than the ER for medical care, but no one suggested that without insurance they would die.  Talk about hysteria.

Since when is health care a right?  How can that be if care requires a care giver.  Are you suggesting that anyone with medical knowledge must now be enslaved to the needs of the masses?  Under the proposed plans, would doctors have to forego a day off if someone in need of care was still standing in line?  If you have a right to health care, does that include transportation and healthy foods.  Should the goverment get you an air filter and water filter as well.  Are vitamins and condoms included?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really think that a lack of insurance means a lack of health care?  Why do people think that seeing a doctor is a priviledge only for the insured.  My doctor won&#8217;t even take insurance.</p>
<p>The argument used to be that it would be cheaper if the uninsured used a doctor rather than the ER for medical care, but no one suggested that without insurance they would die.  Talk about hysteria.</p>
<p>Since when is health care a right?  How can that be if care requires a care giver.  Are you suggesting that anyone with medical knowledge must now be enslaved to the needs of the masses?  Under the proposed plans, would doctors have to forego a day off if someone in need of care was still standing in line?  If you have a right to health care, does that include transportation and healthy foods.  Should the goverment get you an air filter and water filter as well.  Are vitamins and condoms included?</p>
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		<title>By: b mathews</title>
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		<dc:creator>b mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am on humana and am relatively pleased with it. i like my doctor (who is against this healthcare plan) and want to keep her. i got that &quot;evil&quot; mailing from humana telling me how medicare advantage will be cut. i was a bit surprised because someone out there  actually had the audacity to inform seniors of the hard facts about obamacare.  how dare the government tell insurance cos to shut up and stop spreading the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am on humana and am relatively pleased with it. i like my doctor (who is against this healthcare plan) and want to keep her. i got that &#8220;evil&#8221; mailing from humana telling me how medicare advantage will be cut. i was a bit surprised because someone out there  actually had the audacity to inform seniors of the hard facts about obamacare.  how dare the government tell insurance cos to shut up and stop spreading the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: proud mobster</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259263</link>
		<dc:creator>proud mobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Obama did when Obama tried to take over the banks and the CEO&#039;s had to be demonized.  Been there -- done that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Obama did when Obama tried to take over the banks and the CEO&#8217;s had to be demonized.  Been there &#8212; done that.</p>
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		<title>By: proud mobster</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259262</link>
		<dc:creator>proud mobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should worry when the Govt has decided that this Healthcare Bill will not be on the Internet at all so that people can read what&#039;s in it.  When I sign up for insurance I get a booklet explaining everything they cover.  Then its my choice whether I accept it or not. With the Govt bill we will be forced to accept it no matter what the conditions are.  I like choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should worry when the Govt has decided that this Healthcare Bill will not be on the Internet at all so that people can read what&#8217;s in it.  When I sign up for insurance I get a booklet explaining everything they cover.  Then its my choice whether I accept it or not. With the Govt bill we will be forced to accept it no matter what the conditions are.  I like choice.</p>
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		<title>By: proud mobster</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259261</link>
		<dc:creator>proud mobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would worry when the Govt has now decided that this Healthcare Bill will not be on the Internet at all so that people can read what&#039;s in it.  When I sign up for insurance I get a booklet explaining everything they cover.  Then its my choice whether I accept it or not. With the Govt bill we will be forced to accept it no matter what the conditions are.  I like choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would worry when the Govt has now decided that this Healthcare Bill will not be on the Internet at all so that people can read what&#8217;s in it.  When I sign up for insurance I get a booklet explaining everything they cover.  Then its my choice whether I accept it or not. With the Govt bill we will be forced to accept it no matter what the conditions are.  I like choice.</p>
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		<title>By: proud mobster</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259260</link>
		<dc:creator>proud mobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see why all the polls show that people would rather go through private insurance then let the govt run their Healthcare.  If this was such a good deal why are they afraid to let Insurance Companies write to their customers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see why all the polls show that people would rather go through private insurance then let the govt run their Healthcare.  If this was such a good deal why are they afraid to let Insurance Companies write to their customers?</p>
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		<title>By: proud mobster</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33468/white-house-to-insurance-companies-shut-the-fk-up/#comment-1259259</link>
		<dc:creator>proud mobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like my Medicare Advantage Plan because it covers everything and every doctor in their plan must accept what&#039;s paid to them.

Bush knew that Medicare was going broke and thought that partial privatization of Medicare was the way to go.  Ten Million people are on the Advantage Plans and most are satisfied with the coverage.  But the Dems who swore to strenghten Medicare loathe these plans. Now Medicare and the Advantage Plans will both be cut leaving Seniors  to find doctors who will accept reduced Medicare payments.  

What we have here is a boondoggle to end all boondoggles.  How are we going to cover millions more people when we don&#039;t plan on recruiting any extra doctors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like my Medicare Advantage Plan because it covers everything and every doctor in their plan must accept what&#8217;s paid to them.</p>
<p>Bush knew that Medicare was going broke and thought that partial privatization of Medicare was the way to go.  Ten Million people are on the Advantage Plans and most are satisfied with the coverage.  But the Dems who swore to strenghten Medicare loathe these plans. Now Medicare and the Advantage Plans will both be cut leaving Seniors  to find doctors who will accept reduced Medicare payments.  </p>
<p>What we have here is a boondoggle to end all boondoggles.  How are we going to cover millions more people when we don&#8217;t plan on recruiting any extra doctors?</p>
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		<title>By: Fredster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents looked at the &quot;advantage&quot; programs when first signing up for medicare.  My dad&#039;s option:  Not worth it.  You sign up for &quot;their doctors&quot; and &quot;their hospitals&quot; and their pre-approval for anything out of the ordinary, plus having co-pays for doctor visits.  He calculated they were better off with regular medicare and a supplement.  

Plus, in the nola area, a bunch of insurance companies were eager to jump into the &quot;advantage&quot; program and then after a year or two dropped them. It did cause some grief for the people signed up for them, trying to get into something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents looked at the &#8220;advantage&#8221; programs when first signing up for medicare.  My dad&#8217;s option:  Not worth it.  You sign up for &#8220;their doctors&#8221; and &#8220;their hospitals&#8221; and their pre-approval for anything out of the ordinary, plus having co-pays for doctor visits.  He calculated they were better off with regular medicare and a supplement.  </p>
<p>Plus, in the nola area, a bunch of insurance companies were eager to jump into the &#8220;advantage&#8221; program and then after a year or two dropped them. It did cause some grief for the people signed up for them, trying to get into something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ferd,

I believe in freedom of speech but the insurance companies are testing my patience. I am the administrator for 3 companies and no week goes by that I don&#039;t get e-mails from each of the health insurance companies telling me to contact my senator to repeat their talking points.
Why they think I&#039;m on their side I don&#039;t know. I have to tell people that when they marry, they get charged MORE for their spouse than they pay for themselves! And family coverage is insane.

Anyway, I don&#039;t believe in gag orders but heaven knows what these companies are telling these seniors. Now that I&#039;ve seen some of the seniors out demonstrating at town halls (and I&#039;m still unclear what they are demonstrating for), I think the insurance companies may think seniors are a soft target.

Not this one, baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ferd,</p>
<p>I believe in freedom of speech but the insurance companies are testing my patience. I am the administrator for 3 companies and no week goes by that I don&#8217;t get e-mails from each of the health insurance companies telling me to contact my senator to repeat their talking points.<br />
Why they think I&#8217;m on their side I don&#8217;t know. I have to tell people that when they marry, they get charged MORE for their spouse than they pay for themselves! And family coverage is insane.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t believe in gag orders but heaven knows what these companies are telling these seniors. Now that I&#8217;ve seen some of the seniors out demonstrating at town halls (and I&#8217;m still unclear what they are demonstrating for), I think the insurance companies may think seniors are a soft target.</p>
<p>Not this one, baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there is a lot more that needs to be said about Medicare &quot;Advantage&quot;.
The quotation marks are because I was in line getting flu shots last year with other seniors. I showed my Medicare card and filled out the free shot Medicare form. I handed the forms on to the seniors behind me and was told in a bitter voice that no, they had to pay for theirs because they had signed up for the &quot;improved&quot; Medicare Advantage.

I know the Republicans were so big on getting seniors into these government financed HMOs that for a while they wouldn&#039;t let you back into Medicare once you left. There was a big outcry and they had to revise that. I don&#039;t know how it works now.

I always remember Gingrich saying that they wouldn&#039;t be satisfied until every American was in an HMO.

I&#039;d love to see the figures but I believe this Medicare subsidization of HMOs is costing Medicare a bundle because of the way the Republicans drafted the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there is a lot more that needs to be said about Medicare &#8220;Advantage&#8221;.<br />
The quotation marks are because I was in line getting flu shots last year with other seniors. I showed my Medicare card and filled out the free shot Medicare form. I handed the forms on to the seniors behind me and was told in a bitter voice that no, they had to pay for theirs because they had signed up for the &#8220;improved&#8221; Medicare Advantage.</p>
<p>I know the Republicans were so big on getting seniors into these government financed HMOs that for a while they wouldn&#8217;t let you back into Medicare once you left. There was a big outcry and they had to revise that. I don&#8217;t know how it works now.</p>
<p>I always remember Gingrich saying that they wouldn&#8217;t be satisfied until every American was in an HMO.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the figures but I believe this Medicare subsidization of HMOs is costing Medicare a bundle because of the way the Republicans drafted the rules.</p>
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