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John Edwards Is Told Where To Get Off…

I would not typically publish a further smack-down to a smack-down. But every now and then, something is written that is so spot on, it requires further highlight and big hooting Brava! Susan Estrich today published just such a piece telling Senator John Edwards what he ought to be doing. Here’s the long and the short of it:

Dear John,
Just. Shut. Up.

The occasion of her instruction came because Edwards is now pondering

… “publicly” acknowledging paternity of his mistress’s baby, [though he] had not yet brought his wife around to the idea. With his mistress, baby in arms, testifying before a grand jury about the payments she received from Edwards’ associates, and the campaign aide he had pushed to claim paternity now shopping a book about the deceit, Edwards is reportedly considering a public affirmation of paternity as a way to spin the story in his direction — make it look like he is standing up to take responsibility, doing the “right thing.”

Ms. Estrich phrases the following like a delicate soufflé, perfectly timed as it comes out of the oven, piping hot and puffy:

Message to John Edwards: We know it’s your baby. Everyone knows that. You want to do the right thing? Do it privately. Do penance for the next 20 years. Wash your wife’s feet and help the poor. But don’t make public pronouncements or expect public forgiveness.

Nothing John Edwards can do will change the judgment we have reached about him. World-class scumbag doesn’t begin to describe it. I can think of no one in recent political history whose betrayal matches his.

While Ms. Estrich states that other politicians have likewise had affairs and does not excuse any of them, she points out in this case, his actions really go above and beyond the term “dog”:

How many times did I say that an extramarital affair is not an impeachable offense? It isn’t. But when your wife has metastatic breast cancer, when you use everybody around you, when you lie to her and your aides and the voters, when you distort a presidential race you had no business being in and bring a child into the world because of your arrogance and cruelty, then it’s an unforgivable one.

Therein lies the problem. His wife and campaign manager knew about the affair and advised Mr. Edwards not to run for the President in 2008. He did it anyway. I’m not going to play woulda coulda shoulda here, but the man campaigned in Iowa for two years. What if he were not part of the equation? He also took campaign contributions knowing he had this damning secret.

There was no way he could have believed he would get away with this all the way to election time. He was crucified for getting a $400 haircut. Although one could argue another man who is a political lightweight possessed of heavy personal baggage currently occupies the White House, we must remember that Edwards didn’t have the advantage of playing the race card daily to silence any critics or opponents.

Ms. Estrich rightly points out the continuing humiliation Elizabeth Edwards and her children must endure in processing this continuing mess, played out in front of a grand jury as it is determined whether or not Mr. Edwards acted illegally in funneling campaign monies to help support his mistress. Ugh.

I am reminded of the Democratic Convention last August. The second night was devoted to the accomplishments of women. Elizabeth was one of the scheduled speakers – until John Edwards’ actions were discovered. Suddenly not only he was scrubbed from the Convention, but her speech was cancelled as well. He did something wrong. She did nothing. Yet she must hide out along with him. She is an accomplished, respected woman who set an example with her courageous fight against cancer and should have been allowed to speak. She is not his chattel.

Just more of an unfortunate double standard that shows no signs of dissipating. I appreciate Ms. Estrich for saying what many should have said long ago.

It is cold comfort to discover that there is more than one politician who suffers from narcissistic personality disorder.

  • Strawberry

    I really tried not to pass judgement on Edwards over the affair but this is going too far. He needs to go away forever. The wanker.

  • Lady Boomer NYC

    Ani – Great observations from you and Susan Estrich. Thanks for bringing her article to light. (shaking my head, sighing)

    Remember when Hillary’s sense of entitlement was all the talk of the “town” during the primaries? Yeesh, talk about the sense of entitlement Edwards had. I remember an Edwards supporter friend who looked down her nose at me as if he was much more progressive than Hillary, and how could I? Like others, he talked a good game, right? I guess that’s the point.

  • Lily

    It’s interesting to me to see how different bloggers and editorialists have reacted to John Edwards situation. The comments here I would characterize as very restrained, dignified, and generous considering Edwards’ betrayals and conduct. A similar point of view complete with visual aids and expressed in completely opposite, but not undeserved terms, is that by former NQ contributer Uppity Woman at:

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/more-on-former-presidential-candidate-and-lying-sack-of-shit-adulterer-john-edwards/

    I think it’s an interesting contrast. If anybody has come across a man’s viewpoint on Edwards I hope they would provide a link. I haven’t run across a man’s opinion yet and am curious to see how a man would express himself on this subject.

  • Obamastolemycounty

    What if he were not part of the equation?

    I think we all know the answer to that! Hillary and edwards supporters clearly didn’t drink the kool aid so without Edwards the choice was koolaid delusion or common sense. Hillary was common sense.

    Edwards f-ed 3 women last year and none in a good, fun way!

  • annie

    I cannot forgive Elizabeth for supporting her husband and letting him run for President knowing what he had done. It just blows my mind to know that these politicians do just what they want and their wives just forget what they have done and I’m sure it’s not the first time that they have done it. I guess they feel that the power is more important to them then their pride and dignity.

  • Lyn

    Plus don’t forget, for a while, Elizabeth played the role of Attack dog against Hillary, so JE could appear to be above it all.

  • http://www.BullShit.com Osellingbullshit

    John Edwards is a scumbag. That’s my opinion, and I’m a man.

    I think what Edwards has done to his family and especially Elizabeth is heartbreaking. And I think the pain for Elizabeth is hard to describe. Elizabeth’s the only person that would decide whether to forgive him or not.

    However, politically what John Edwards did to distort the primaries was (is) UNFORGIVABLE. I could still picture him during the NH debate ( I was in the audience). He flat out looked at us and lied that He and “dear leader” where committed to reform unlike Hillary….and then he proceeded to accuse Hillary of being the “establishment”. What a joke? I bit my tongue so hard I nearly cut it open.

    I hope John Edwards burns in hell for all I care.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    i really blame him for Hillary’s defeat

  • Obot_NOT

    I am reminded of the Democratic Convention last August. The second night was devoted to the accomplishments of women. Elizabeth was one of the scheduled speakers – until John Edwards’ actions were discovered. Suddenly not only he was scrubbed from the Convention, but her speech was cancelled as well. He did something wrong. She did nothing. Yet she must hide out along with him.

    Elizabeth Edwards did nothing? Read your other sentence above:

    Therein lies the problem. His wife and campaign manager knew about the affair and advised Mr. Edwards not to run for the President in 2008.

    Elizabeth knew. Aside from advising him not to run, she participated in and further enabled his wrongdoing. Elizabeth was complicit in his sham candidacy.

  • http://www.dwarfhamster.com dst

    With you on that foxyladi14, Edwards was and is a pathetic flea and I would normally suspect he was either bribed or threatened into staying in the race, however in his case his over inflated ego may have been enough!

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    He certainly didn’t help, but honestly, I think the DNC was hellbent on Obama anyway. Clinton could have won every major state except one – oh wait – she did, and not get the nomination. She could get the majority of votes – oops – she did, and not get the nomination.

    So yeah, Edwards sure didn’t help. He turned out to be a total jerk. No doubt, he siphoned off votes from Hillary, and ganged up on her with Obama, all of which was the more egregious when this came out. Now, it seems even more like there was some major collusion going on.

    Great post, Ani!

  • robert

    John Edwards’ biggest mistake, according to Susan Estrich, was of being born a man. It is becoming as correct these days to subvert one’s masculinity as it is to mind one’s words so as not to offend anyone. It is apparent, through recent discoveries about his career and practices, that Edwards did not offer an apology for being a man through accountability to women. Maybe that was his biggest mistake of all.

    It is equally popular on these pages to watch the vanguards of indignant female political hacks come forward to poke sticks in the eyes of fallen male politicians. There are those standing by taunting and cajoling, hoping the latest vulnerable male politician will fall flat. No fan of Barack Obama, I have read ad nauseam the countless doom sayers who can’t forgive Barack Obama for usurping the dream of a Hillary presidency. If Obama does indeed fail, well, those in the political henhouse, with their crooked beaked noses perpetually to the wind, will be able to say they helped make it so.

    I for one am tired of listening to the biddies of political correctness chastise men for not having the decency to neuter themselves before seeking public office. If male aggression and vanity were cause to hate men, then it is no wonder they hate Nancy Pelosi with equal vigor.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    I was one of those naive fools who donated to the Edwards campaign back in early 2008. After NH I realized Hillary was the most qualified, smartest person in the race. yeah, I blame Edwards for not dropping out when he knew he couldn’t win and I blame him for endorsing that lying POS fraud now occupying the Oval Office. (Hell, a fly can sit on cow dung, but that doesn’t make him a bull.)

    But Estrich turned on Hillary and supported BO, so I consider what she says to be more banner-carrying for the fraud. I’ll never believe the press didn’t have any idea of Edwards’ affair. They could’ve chastised him when it really mattered. Now it’s just so much filler for their columns.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    He talked a good game with the wrong instrument of his body!

    How low can a man go knowing his wife was ill and allow his children to be humiliated too UGH!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    UW says it like it is an awesome blog to follow would never miss dropping in on a daily basis!

  • susan h

    I have often thought that Obama and Axelrod “turned the screws” so to speak on Edwards during the primary. They KNEW about the affair, and blackmailed Edwards into supporting Obama rather than Hillary. I am not sure of the logistics of all of this, but it is a feeling I have had since news of the affair came out in the open.

  • SoCalDem

    I believe Susan is trying to save her tattered credibility, won’t work here. I have a good memory.
    She is a snake!

  • Honora

    I don’t know what Elizabeth was thinking, but her actions, as much as John’s, led to Hillary’s defeat and the mess we are in now.

  • Ginger

    We waited w/ bated breath to see who he wud come out and support during the primaries. What he did to his family, his country will not be forgotten.

  • Honora

    I forget the timing, but remember the big meeting between Hillary and John and then Barack and John? Does anyone have a clue about what was really going on? Is that when Obama promised John the VP or SofS? What did Hillary promise?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Very true! That too is mindblowing to think she allowed him to go forward in the primaries. Still everything about the primaries was mindblowing!

  • Sassy

    A real man would attempt to limit any further embarrassment to his wife, children, parents and loyal friends!
    Elizabeth, due to her diagnosis, is probably focused on the most important things in life, and maybe John is not one of them.
    I wish the family well!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Good Post Ani.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    I believe the only reason he ran, with these circumstances lurking in the background, was to siphon off votes from Hillary. Even then, she won. But, if he hadn’t taken votes away, she would have won even bigger…much harder to take the nomination away under those circumstances.

    I fell for the “Hillary is too polarizing to win” nonsense and wasted my primary vote on him so I feel doubly dumb. And I have to say that a lot of the persuasion was due to Elizabeth. She must be so proud.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    BTW, Edwards (both of you) stay out of public view and take care of your family in private.

    I had a friend who found herself with a husband, girlfriend and baby. They had five grown children. The baby became part of the family. No divorce. The husband looked like an even bigger dog than he did before. Girlfriend, sort of irrelevant.

  • mountainaires

    Boy, I couldn’t agree more, Ani, and thanks to Susan Estrich for saying it. We’re ALL sick to death of John Edwards, and we wish he’d just shut up. To think that he’s still seeking a way to “spin” this is just sickening. It’s too late to redeem yourself, John. You’re toast in politics for-evah.

    Go back to trial law; win some big judgements for some innocent victims. Maybe then you can redeem yourself with your family, if that’s possible.

  • Susanne

    The cheese stands alone, if you would like to help the state of GA, VA etc and you are from these states please help us out.
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/09/20/the-cheese-stands-alone/

    Edwards is slime…

  • Peggy Sue

    John Edwards proved to the world what kind of man he was/is. And to think that I found him an attractive candidate at one point! We can be thankful, he got knocked off early. I can’t imagine what the fallout would have been had he actually been elected.

    I have no respect for him. But as a woman and a mother, I simply don’t have the same feelings for Elizabeth Edwards. Could she have stepped forward? Yes. But I’ve read her words saying that she was absolutely against him continuing. She still had two young children at home, a life history with the man and worse, a very nasty, life threatening disease.

    One of the more disgusting things I read is that this Hunter person claimed that he said they’d get married, have a big wedding, once Elizabeth died. And now, apparently she’s living or moving close to the Edward’s vacation home.

    Elizabeth Edwards has been punished with humiliation, again and again. Would her coming forward given Hillary a better chance? Maybe. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama team knew the dirty secrets on Edwards and manipulated the whole scene. For Elizabeth I feel pity. For John Edwards, I feel only disgust.

    Thanks for the Susan Estrich excerpts, Ani. I read her essays frequently.

  • http://none Peg

    Wash. Post Eugene Robinson:

    Young further claims that Edwards promised the mistress, Rielle Hunter, that he would marry her after his wife, Elizabeth, had died of her inoperable cancer. And that they would have a rooftop ceremony in New York. And that there would be music by the Dave Matthews Band.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/23/AR2009092303003.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

  • KB

    I agree with Estrich on Edwards. He’s a bum just trying to work an angle to get back into the game. He should be gone and never heard from again. What he has done to his family is disgraceful. Having said that-I still can’t forgive Estrich for trashing Hillary.

  • http://liberalrapture.com/ John (from Liberal Rapture)

    The person left out of Edwards sick calculations is that poor child. Edwards needs to do the right thing by his child and shut the hell up forever.

  • Ani

    The only sense of entitlement for Hillary was actually coming from the media — they charcterized her negatively from the beginning with all this crap about “inevitability”. this did not come from her.

    The media tried to paint her as a diva from get go. They did the same thing with Palin. They will do this with any woman. Message: “Who do you think you are?”

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Yes, me too. Hillary would have made it otherwsie. Now look what we have gotten ourselves into!

    I feel kind sorry for this youn man in Santa Cruz who did nothing but campaign for Edwards for months. I wonder how he feels now–probably will never trust anyone again.

  • Ani

    I personally think he is slime and have been referring to him as a “hairdo” since 2003.

    You have my word.

  • Ani

    I haven’t forgotten that. More sanctimony. I am very sorry to say (given Elizabeth’s health circumstances) that she found out she lived in a glass house.

  • Ani

    Thank you for your comment. He infuriated me worse than anyone, frankly. He always came across as holier than thou. Disgusting under the circumstances.

  • Ani

    Collusiuon is the operative word. Thanks, Amy.

  • Ani

    Yes, you are right about her knowledge and sin on that regard.

    However, in the scope of having the affair, she was not the person who transgressed. Yet she must hide in shame.

    The DNC was not punishing her for collusion with him, nor did they know about it — she was being punished and ‘disappeared’ simply because she was his wife, carried the Edwards name and they did not want anything associated with this to embarrass the nominee. From their point of view, she did nothing — but she was still told to get lost.

  • Lyn

    She didn’t have to go out and campaign for him, she had every excuse to stay home (like she did when he went to give his support to Obama) SHE didn’t have to keep attacking Hillary. I feel not pity for HER, she knew what he was up to and still was on Chirs matthews slamming Hillary, I do feel sorry for our Country.

  • Ani

    I am confused by your argument. Please point out to me that last time you saw a female politician guilty of this kind of transgression?

    When you find one — I promise you she will be hung in effigy from every street corner and labeled the worst kind of filth imaginable. I am equally sure her “punishment” would be ten times worse in the court of public opinion and everywhere else than anything Edwards or any other of his ilk have ever gotten.

    The double standard is firmly in place — and I also do not associate “manhood” with “infidelity”
    — those two words do not necessarily go hand in hand.

    I actually have a better opinion of men than that. And know plenty of men who do not behave that way.

  • Ani

    This is a woman who actually wrote a book called “the Case for Hillary Clinton”

  • morris1030

    I totally agree with you about Elizabeth Edward’s compliant agreement in helping her husband campaign when she knew he was unfaithful and dishonest.This was not ethical.

    She also repeatedly sniped at Hillary Clinton and alluded to her “kind” of marriage and life as better suited for the WH, than was Hillary ans her history with Bill C.

    A lot of hypocrisy here, and less candor than we would expect from Elizabeth. As for John Edwards he’s a total wipeout and belongs in the dustbin of history.

  • morris1030

    I totally agree with you about Elizabeth Edward’s compliant agreement in helping her husband campaign when she knew he was unfaithful and dishonest.This was not ethical.

    She also repeatedly sniped at Hillary Clinton and alluded to her “kind” of marriage and life as better suited for the WH, than was Hillary and her history with Bill C.

    A lot of hypocrisy here, and less candor than we would expect from Elizabeth. As for John Edwards he’s a total wipeout and belongs in the dustbin of history.

  • morris1030

    Elizabeth Edwards joined the lie by endorsing Edwards when she knew he was a lying cheat.

    Furthermore she was the official Hillary attack dog and repeatedly sniped at HRC. Her prim self righteous attacks on Hillary were based on her inability to have the superior marriage the Edward’s claimed to have. Also she wrote about and prated about HRC as “not my kind of person”. She made snide remarks about Hillary whenever she had an opening.

    In other words, Elizabeth Edwards facillitated John Edward’s lying and without doubt prevented Hillary from prevailing in the campaign. Many of Edward’s votes in the primaries would have been Hillary’s.

    Neither Elizabeth or John behaved honestly or responsibly and tilted the outcome of the primaries.

  • denisel

    The poor baby. Both her parents are self absorbed losers. Imagine being raised with both parents having egos that enormous?

  • trixta

    I used to feel sorry for ELizabeth, but not any more. She enabled/s John at every turn. Both duped the American public in 2008. John may be a scumbag of the highest order, but Elizabeth is the enabler. Furthermore, Elizabeth’s self-righteous tone toward HRC and the Clinton marriage is royally hypocritical. I wish the Edwards and their love triangle would just go away and disappear from public life.

  • rw

    “and bring a child into the world because of your arrogance and cruelty”

    What? Susan Estrich, just shut-up and leave people’s personal lives alone.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    Interesting how edwards threw his support behind the ohole. Perhaps it was all calculated from the get go. the oblama campaign knew of his affair, made him run, gain supporters and then throw his support behind the ohole along with the majority of his voters.

    I was initially an edwards supporter, once he threw his support to obama, I was so disgusted.

    live in your shit john. Eat it, smell it, bathe in it jerkoff!!

  • Karma

    Exactly, that poor kid will grow up and realize what happened and it will probably be on the playground at school.

    No matter what romantic delusions her mother and/or father try to wrap it up in, the ugly truth will be revealed.

    Her own father denied her for months on end for personal and professional gain.

  • FranSC

    I seriously doubt the aggrieved wives of their adulterous husbands simply ‘forget’ what happened. These wives have also enjoyed the same idealic life their husbands have had. I would imagine that lifestyle is even harder to give up than ordinary people with ordinary lives.

    John Edwards should pay close attention to SC Governor Sanford. Sanford decided to ‘tell it like it is and tell it all’. As we all see, that is a very bad decision. Remember when the republicans kept clamoring for Bill Clinton to just tell the truth? Translation: “Tell God and the world what you’ve done – we want details”.

    Thankfully, Clinton had sense enough not to do that. Sanford decided to play it the republican way. As we all saw, that was a disaster. I’m sure Sanford thought he would at least get a pat on the back for his sincerity and honesty. Instead, Sanford got a firestorm that is still not over, appears to have lost his family, and his own party is still trying to remove him from office.

    Lesson: The less said, the better.

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  • FranSC

    There may have been collusion of Edwards and 0. But, honestly, in the scheme of things, that would be like spitting in the ocean compared to the overwhelming 0bama and DNC/Dem leadership lies and fraud, the arrogance, the psycological warfare of racism perpetrated by the best and the brightest the AA community had to offer, aka, Eugene Robinson, Bob Herbert, former SoS Colin Powell, and really all AA’s(except Trixta – I know, I know, you thankfully didn’t fall for it) regardless of economic status or political persuation, not to mention the constant dirty work of Donna Brazile and Roland Martin.

  • FranSC

    I have always had a man in my life am by no means a ‘man hater’. The once loyal democrats at this site probably did not ‘taunt and cajole’ Bill Clinton after his deal with ‘that woman’ as well as the others. I was personally infuriated with him for tarnishing his image and legacy, but felt it was a personal matter between him and Hillary. But that did not change the fact that I agreed with him politically and philosophically. I surely was not going to fall in line with another political group whose views on life and politics I did not share.

    Edwards is different – he was running for POTUS when he succumbed to this temptation. This secret would have absolutely impacted his nomination once it came out. He had fallen for another woman yet had a wife that had a life-threatening illness at the time (he would later say, Elizabeth was in remission when it happened.) He got Elizabeth to basically lie as well. It doesn’t get much worse than that, but the thing that made it the most disgusting was how he continued to present himself as this idealistic family man who, for instance, made a big deal about always celebrating their wedding anniversary at Wendy’s like they did when they got married.

    Governor Sanford had some sympathy from me until he said, “the other woman was his soulmate” in his efforts to show he wasn’t just screwing around. Then he said he was “trying to fall back in love with his wife.” That should not have been for public consumption when you are a governor of a state trying to save your neck.

    There is no clucking or nose to the wind – just stating the obvious that should outrage any fair-minded person.

  • Onward

    Perhaps Elizabeth is an accomplished woman…but she’s an enabler as well. She knew he had had an affair and yet encouraged him to continue running for the office of President. She deserved to be “scrubbed” from giving a speech as the Democratic Convention as well. They both knew what they were doing was wrong and continued to act as if they were above it all.

  • HEPT

    Silky Pony won’t never shut up.
    Why does this clown even think for a minute anyone is interested in what he does or does not DO?
    He ain’t likly to ever run for much else in politics.

  • islander

    Spot on, trixta — straight to the point! And amen.

  • Lana

    Fantastic article Ani and another great, spot-on comment here. Thanks so much for bringing this out.

  • Lana

    Definitely agree with you on this point, Ani. Elizbeth should not have been deprived of her time to celebrate her own personal accomplishments because of something her husband did. So typically sexist of the DNC. Of course, if Elizabeth was allowed to show herself as a strong woman in spite of her husband, then they would have had to admit the same about Hillary whom they were hellbent on stealing the election from.

  • Ani

    :)

  • Ani

    spot on re Hillary.

  • Ani

    No doubt. But she was scrubbed due to sexism and the “wife as part of the chattel of husband” reason, not anything else.

  • dc

    Ya, I have no respect for Elizabeth ..I do feel sorry that she is suffering from untreatable cancer of course. But she is a major enabler, probably has played that role for a long while with her egomaniac husband. I am proud to say I never liked JE, always saw him as a big phony. And, was I right. My gut is proving to be quite good. I loved Hillary, supported her wholeheartedly and knew with all my being that she was THE ONE. I knew Obama was a phony too, with nothing but a lot of smoke and mirrors. I believe we didn’t get Hillary because she’s a woman, when you really boil it down. I mean what “audacity” she had to think she could be President. The ego boys were so threatened. Don’t underestimate how sexist this country is.

  • ksclematis

    ….” Maybe that was his biggest mistake of all.”

    In my opinion, as a female, his biggest mistake(s) was unzipping his pants in the wrong places at the wrong times…….

  • ksclematis

    Imagine….what would we have now if JE had won the POTUS, VPOTUS, or even SOS?????? Would Elizabeth be proud to be First Lady after all she knew??? He was never even a thought of mine as a resident of the White House……just a fake and a pile of bat guano!

    What’s the matter with the politicos that are having sex problems….too much Viagara or Cealis(sp)????

  • Joe

    I’m still getting over the shock that he’s not a closeted gay man.

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