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“shifting financial obligations of this magnitude to future generations is immoral, unacceptable and unsustainable”

“We are spending enough of our kids’ money,” the letter said. “Our country needs to get back to following the teachings of Romans 13:8, which says we should ‘let no debt remain outstanding.’”

“In our view, shifting financial obligations of this magnitude to future generations is immoral, unacceptable and unsustainable,” the senators’ letter said.

“All of us are willing to work with your administration on a plan for…reform that will keep the system solvent for the long term,” the senators said. “But we are concerned about the fiscal crisis facing the nation.”

Pelosi said the president would be met by people every step of the way who support keeping the system the way it is.

Can you say HYPOCRITES!?

These are quotes from a 2005 article, Dems Rally Against Social Security Plan

House and Senate Democrats rallied Thursday against President Bush’s plan to revamp Social Security, to show they would not let it pass without a fight.

Forty-three of the 44 Democrat senators, plus Independent Sen. Jim Jeffords of Vermont, signed a letter to the president saying it was “immoral” to borrow more money to pay for the plan, even quoting from the New Testament to make their point.

Bush says the Social Security system is broken and will be “bankrupt” in just a few decades if it’s not fixed, and he favors private investment accounts that would be funded by drawing a percentage of money out of Social Security taxes that otherwise would go to pay benefits.

Pelosi said,”the president would be met by people every step of the way who support keeping the [Social Security] system the way it is.”

But now, when Conservatives are worried about the out of control spending and huge deficits, and recession that we are in, and Republicans are working to develop plans for health care reform that won’t bankrupt the country, they are labeled hateful, racist, teabagging extremists who just want to see people die?

From Newsbusters:

Social Security In Deficit, Obama Applauded Reform’s Demise in 2006

Contrary to what the Left and their media minions told Americans in 2005 when President George W. Bush wanted to reform Social Security, the nation’s largest entitlement program is now projected to run deficits for at least the next two years.

In an article on the subject published Sunday, the Associated Press mysteriously hid the seriousness of this revelation while never once mentioning the Republican push to solve this problem four years ago, or that Democrats in January 2006 — including Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) — actually applauded the death of the previous year’s reform efforts.

The obfuscation began with the headline:

“Early Retirements Strain Social Security System.”

Strain? How about calling a spade a spade and letting people know up front that Social Security is about to run a deficit?

No. Such honesty came later:

Big job losses and a spike in early retirement claims from laid-off seniors will force Social Security to pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes the next two years, the first time that’s happened since the 1980s.

The deficits — $10 billion in 2010 and $9 billion in 2011 — won’t affect payments to retirees because Social Security has accumulated surpluses from previous years totaling $2.5 trillion. But they will add to the overall federal deficit.

Applications for retirement benefits are 23 percent higher than last year, while disability claims have risen by about 20 percent. Social Security officials had expected applications to increase from the growing number of baby boomers reaching retirement, but they didn’t expect the increase to be so large.

What happened? The recession hit and many older workers suddenly found themselves laid off with no place to turn but Social Security.

Finally, the facts:

The Congressional Budget Office is projecting that Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes next year and in 2011, a first since the early 1980s, when Congress last overhauled Social Security.

Social Security is projected to start generating surpluses again in 2012 before permanently returning to deficits in 2016 unless Congress acts again to shore up the program. Without a new fix, the $2.5 trillion in Social Security’s trust funds will be exhausted in 2037.

Might have been a nice time to mention that in 2005, President Bush wanted to overhaul Social Security to prevent this from happening, and that Democrats in Congress aided and abetted by their media minions convinced the American people that this wasn’t a serious problem that needed to be addressed yet.

Hmmm. So the crisis Bush and the Republicans predicted is now here, and not only doesn’t the AP mention that, it also didn’t express any shock whatsoever that Obama isn’t focusing on this now.

Read the entire Newsbusters article here.

The Democrats, while Bush was President, said “shifting financial obligations of this magnitude to future generations is immoral, unacceptable and unsustainable”.

But, now apparently it is hunky dory. And if you don’t agree, well, then, you are racist!

What a bunch of lying phonies.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    You said it, AGII – what a bunch of HYPOCRITES!!!! Grrr…

  • William L. Donlon

    TAX REVOLT??

    You MUST File Your Income Taxes!

    Fill in the “Heading” Name, Address, SS# etc.

    Leave the rest blank.

    Flip it over and sign it.

    Mail it in.

    You have fulfilled your “legal obligation” to File

    You have joined the “Growing Tax Revolt Of 20010″

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    it seems like that’s why nothing ever gets done! they just play politics all the time! no one wants to spend money, unless they are the ones who get to spend it, and no one wants to accomplish anything unless it was their idea. SO annoying.

    and now, with Gates saying a set timeline for withdrawal in Afghanistan is a terrible idea… Wasn’t that what people kept telling Obama about Iraq? And now Obama is waffling on sending troops in, on a war he called necessary, and that he would listen to the commanders on the ground? But now he is stalling, while the soldiers need help?

    morons. they are all morons. and he is so ill prepared, it is frightening.

  • HARP

    The health care plan advocated by President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, Senator Reid and The Democratic Majority is hazardous to the health of every American. What the President would like to do with your health care is currently being widely debated, but what is lesser known is a panel has already been created in Part I of his two-part health care plan through buried language in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, also known as the Stimulus Bill, which became law last February.

    The name given to this panel in the President’s Stimulus Bill is The Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research, and is an already funded $1.1 billion enterprise run by federal bureaucrats—not practicing doctors on the front line or patients. All 15 members of The Council have already been appointed by President Obama. The two part Plan consists of 53 boards and councils, whose underlying method of cutting costs is based on rationing and denying care, not preventing health care need, much like the British Health Care System.

    Part II of the Obama health care plan, dubbed “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act,” empowers this Council to create another level of bureaucracy, The Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research, which as in The British System, will determine whether to approve or reject treatment for patients based upon the cost of treatment and the number of years the patient will likely benefit from the treatment. This will have the biggest impact on seniors, but rightly has caused concern for Americans of all ages.

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/27/obamas-two-part-health-care-plan-is-hazardous-to-your-health/

  • jwrjr

    Running massive deficits is “immoral, unacceptable and unsustainable” only when Republicans do it. When Obamacrats do the same thing, Ozero is “the One we’ve been waiting for”.

  • mountainaires

    And, with all of these huge events going on, what does our Egomaniac/Narcissist/Messiah-in-Chief do???

    HE DECIDES HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE THE CHICAGO OLYMPICS BID.

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/09/obama_copenhagenbound_for_ioc.html

  • waterstradt

    Lets see the Congress borrowed the money from Social Security when it had a surplus. They spent the money and gave Social Security an IOU with one per cent interest. Social Security may need some of that money for the next two years, so Congress will borrow from the Chinese to repay the loan from the Chinese what could go wrong?

  • donjo

    If I remember correctly, the Chimpy plan was going to base SS on the stock market and private investments. What a revoltin’ development that would have been. IF it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If it’s a tad bit wobbly make the necessary adjustments, but don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Yeah, but That One will just decree that money will grow on trees. Pay no attention to the printing press behind the green curtain.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Sara– I don’t know how you do it, but thank you for finding those quotes from ’06! I should be outraged, but they’ve drawn on my anger so many times in the last year that all I can muster toward the Dems is disgust. I grow more ashamed every day that I once considered them the party that represented my beliefs and those of other common people. They only care about themselves and increasing their own powers.

    Oh, and FYI, BO isn’t stalling. He’s just very, very busy getting ready to go overseas again to lobby for Chicago to win the 2016 Olympics. Funny thing: I didn’t realize he was only President of Cook County.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Oops, sorry, mountainaires. I didn’t read down post to see you’d already mentioned this. But of course, it is more important than, say, jobs or Afghanistan.

  • Ferd Berfle

    morons. they are all morons. and he is so ill prepared, it is frightening.

    It’s even worse than that–he just doesn’t f-ing care. That is the long and short of it. Oh, but he can find time to go to Copenhagen to put in a pitch for Chicago at the IOC meeting. I hope they turn him and Chicago down as it would serve them right.

    Bah.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I didn’t realize he was only President of Cook County.

    Indeed. He should have just stayed there.

  • tango

    Rumors are spreading Chicago has it in the bag. Obama is just going so he can give a speech then take credit or at least bask in the glow that his oratory skills made the difference when it’s announced that Chicago won the bid. He needs something positive right now so figures he can take advantage and make it seem he was instrumental in the decision.

    Yep, Obama flies to Copenhagen while health care reform, Afghanistan, Iran all need his attention more. What Barack? Don’t you trust your wife Michelle to give a good enough speech? Are you threatened that she might get the credit and not you if she only gives a speech and Chicago gets the bid afterwards? Is that why you have to go and overshadow and minimize her? I’m no Michelle Obama fan but I’d be pissed that my husband felt he had to go along because either he felt I couldn’t do the job by myself to win the votes or because he knew Chicago got the bid already but his ego made him unwilling to allow me the credit.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Agreed. Privatizing social security would have been a truly monumentally stupid plan.

  • barry bums a ciggie

    I’ve lost count of the hypocrisy. Pelosi has been awfully quiet about the “protesters” at the G20. Maybe it’s not astroturfing because they damaged properties and some were arrested. I’m tired of the left and right crazies controlling our government.

  • jwrjr

    Likely so. However, any 1st semester Economics class will tell you that printing more money makes each Dollar worth less (the definition of Inflation).

  • mountainaires

    No problem, it’s worth pointing out twice. :-)

  • Prime Obot

    Republicans are developing actual health care plans? Could you link to evidence of this? Thanks.

  • Sassy

    It is obvious that seniors are a burden on the country, both through health care and Social Security. Alas, it is time for my solution!
    Geriatric Guerrillas!
    Put all us old people on cruise ships to Iran, Libya, and Venezuela, fit us with denture bombs, and give us one final fling!
    What a blast!

  • mountainaires

    “A careful review of the literature at this time,” he said, “shows single-payer systems, as evidenced by their adoption around the world, are the most cost-effective means of providing insurance.

    “That’s what the evidence shows,” he said.

    Even in Indiana, Doctors Support National Health Insurance

    By STEVEN HIGGS

    Don’t count Dr. Aaron Carroll among those who were stunned by a Sept. 13 New England Journal of Medicine survey that said American physicians overwhelmingly support national health insurance. A researcher at the Indiana University School of Medicine, Carroll wasn’t surprised because the data confirm studies he published in 2003 and 2008 on the subject of physician attitudes toward reform, work that drew national media attention, including an appearance on The Colbert Report.

    In the New England Journal study, 63 percent of the doctors want a mix of public and private insurance plans, and 10 percent want a Medicare-for-all, single-payer health care system. In the April 1, 2008, edition of the Annals of Internal Medicine, Carroll and Dr. Ronald T. Ackerman, also from IU Med, published a survey that showed “a total of 59 percent supported legislation to establish national health insurance.” Five years earlier, it was 49 percent.

    “Those who tell you that doctors are against this or that doctors are really opposed to significant health care reform are not paying attention,” Carroll said from his Indianapolis office during a telephone interview. “The good, carefully gathered evidence on this topic show that doctors really recognize that reform is necessary and are willing to take pretty big steps toward getting a better system.”

    ***

    Full article is a must read for anyone who wants to be informed on this issue:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/higgs09242009.html

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/10/republicans-obama-heres-health-plans/

    http://rsc.tomprice.house.gov/

    H.R. 77 (Issa, R-CA)
    H.R. 109 (Fortenberry, R-NE)
    H.R. 198 (Stearns, R-FL)
    H.R. 270 (Latta, R-OH)
    H.R. 321 (Fortenberry, R-NE)
    H.R. 464 (Price, R-GA)
    H.R. 502 (Bachmann, R-MN)
    H.R. 504 (Bilirakis, R-FL)
    H.R. 544 (Royce, R-CA)
    H.R. 643 (Fortenberry, R-NE)
    H.R. 917 (Guthrie, R-KY)
    H.R. 1075 (Scalise, R-LA)
    H.R. 1086 (Gingrey, R-GA)
    H.R. 1118 (Blackburn, R-TN)
    H.R. 1441 (Marchant, R-TX)
    H.R. 1458 (Camp, R-MI) 10
    H.R. 1468 (Burgess, R-TX)
    H.R. 1658 (Tiahrt, R-KS)
    H.R. 1891 (Alexander, R-LA)
    H.R. 2051 (Miller, R-FL)
    H.R. 2373 (Price, R-GA)
    H.R. 2520 (Ryan, R-WI)
    H.R. 2607 (Johnson, R-TX)
    H.R. 2692 (Thornberry, R-TX)
    H.R. 2784 (Thornberry, R-TX)
    H.R. 2785 (Thornberry, R-TX)
    H.R. 2786 (Thornberry, R-TX)
    H.R. 2787 (Thornberry, R-TX)
    H.R. 3141 (Sullivan, R-OK)
    H.R. 3217 (Shadegg, R-AZ)
    H.R. 3218 (Shadegg, R-AZ)
    H.R. 3356 (Johnson, R-TX)
    H.R. 3372 (Price, R-GA)
    H.R. 3400 (Price, R-GA)
    H.R. 3438 (Issa, R-CA)
    H.R. 3454 (Sullivan, R-OK)
    H.R. 3478 (Gohmert, R-TX)

    Republicans wave their plans at Obama, during his Congressional Speech…

    http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-09/49165350.jpg

    http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20090910/i/r691469692.jpg

  • tek

    Perspective. That’s what’s needed. I hope you aren’t trying to say that the Bush administration did not precipitate this crisis? George W. Bush consistently had the goal of bankrupting this country so there would be no money for social programs. He finally succeeded.

    Let’s call a spade a spade. If George W. Bush hadn’t brought this country to its knees, we never would have had Obama and we wouldn’t be facing all these crises now with a totally incompetent president. Also I think it’s about time to admit George W. Bush doesn’t even know the meaning of the word Christian, let alone possess the ability to act like one.

    If you can’t admit your mistakes, you can never change for the better. The same applies to politics.

    George W. Bush was a disastrous president and the Republican majority let him have a totally free hand. Together they destroyed this country. Because Bush and Karl Rove figured out how to corrupt the entire political system in this country they set an example for other evil men. Now the corrupt Rovian system is the norm for our politics and probably won’t change.

  • tek

    donjo: Right you are. If that had been put into effect with Bush’s other policy changes and total repeal of all regulations, every retired person in this country would now be totally broke.

  • Prime Obot

    Oh, please. Every single article I have read that attempts to study these so-called plans scoffs at them. Nobody on this Earth could say with any seriousness what Republicans plan to do about the enormous problems we face in this industry. Nor can anyone explain, with any seriousness, why they oppose “Obamacare” on budgetary grounds when the Congressional Budget Office’s non-partisan scoring strongly indicates that a robust public option would actually hold health care spending over the long term by leading to greater competition in the marketplace.

  • Scout

    Remember that he didn’t hold one meeting when he was chair of the Senate Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Afghanistan and Europe?

    That one little fact should have told millions of voters that B0 doesn’t care about anything worthwhile. That was a plum assignment, one he should have used to buff up his non-existent skills. But like every position he’s ever held, he squandered it to spend his time on self promotion.

  • Scout

    Well, that’s a world crisis if ever there was one…

  • oowawa

    I hope they turn him and Chicago down as it would serve them right.

    But…but…but Ferd,
    He’s a winner! And you know how it goes with winners–
    They win-win-win
    win-win-win-
    win-win-win-
    Right up until they lose.
    Lose it all. Lose big.

    But while they’re on their winning roll, everyone forgets
    That even the losers get lucky sometimes.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    Links?

  • oowawa

    Right, Sassy. Just fetch me my walker and shuffle me off to the barricades.

  • Prime Obot
  • Prime Obot

    The relevant quote:

    “The public plan remains a contentious issue, with Blue Dog Democrats insisting that negotiating rates with providers should be the vehicle for setting rates, as opposed to basing them on Medicare. Last week, CBO figures discussed with the staff of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated that a public plan option in some form could save up to $90 billion over 10 years.”

    This has been apparent for some time to any impartial observer; a public plan that anyone can choose to sign up for, with the huge negotiating power that a national plan would possess, is the best (probably the only) hope for reining in insanely growing health care costs. The Republican position on this issue is 100% fraudulent. The progressive Democratic position is both morally and practically superior. In fact, it is essential.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    I need something better then that. I can’t view the article, and I can’t find a CBO report that states that….

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/09/cbo_a_strong_public_plan_saves.html

    It sounds to me that they are saying, not that we would be saving $90B, but that including a public option would cost $90B less over ten years then not having a public option. So, spending $1Trillion, having a public option would cost $90B less, over 10 years.

    I think opening up the borders to insurance companies, and tort reform, and extending Medicaid and SCHIP are actions that can be made quickly, and for cheaper, also not making private deals with drug companies… I would also perhaps mandate at least catastrophic insurance.

    If I were Pres, I would make those changes immediately…then evaluate the system to see if they worked.

    Lowering malpractice insurance is a must!

  • elaine

    Scout, you’re not counting Obama’s Global Poverty Act that mandates a % of our GDP go to the UN thereby insuring we won’t win any hearts & minds with our generosity as the recipients will only say thanks to the UN

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    you didn’t include links of people calling the GOP plans a joke.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    And I think what a lot of people are protesting is the spending of the nearly $1 Trillion, not the *saving* of $85-90 Billion.

    Everything the CBO has said is that this will be costly. And no one believes that reform can happen without raising taxes… that is what people are objecting to.

    People want reform. They don’t want to spend us into oblivion, and they don’t want to be lied to.

  • elaine

    American Girl in Italy, You must not have watched Tim Geithner on CNBC, “Banking With Geithner”, he says it’s not acceptable to pass all this debt on to future generations. Tim wants it paid back ASAP by us. Get ready. The Tax Man cometh in 2011.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    NO, I didn’t see it. but..but…Obama promised no.new.taxes.

  • trixta

    Your are so right, tek. BO is the flip side of GWB! It’s the same politics and policies with different players.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    You just hold onto that thought about Repubs being responsible for all the ills in this country even though the Dems have controlled Congress since 2006.

    mmm-mmm-mmm

  • trixta

    You can say that again, Ferd!

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    mmm-mmm-mmm
    that is the funniest fricking thing!

    not to mention the iraq resolution – which got non-partisan support, as did the funding for the war, and we got hit on 9/11… there were many factors. and to lay blame solely on the right is wrong, IMHO. I never liked Bush, but I don’t agree with some of what is written above.

    And Obama is taking us way deeper into debt than Bush did.

  • b mathews

    i think many people are under the assumption that obaMEcare is going to be free and we are all going to have this wonderful healthcare and its not going to cost us a dime. wake up!!! nothing the government does is free. its going to cost at least as much as private insurance..if not more..and we will get less. i was stunned when i spoke to a friend last week who beat colon cancer. she is very wealthy and obviously had the best care possible. now she is complaining that her health insurance cost $1200 a month and is under the assumption that obaME care is going to be free. how come no one is talking about how much this is actually going to cost people out of pocket every month.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Prime Obut:

    Has anyone and I mean anyone actually done a process-driven review of all potential types of healthcare systems in use on the planet and how they might apply here? And if so, what are their recommendations? Didn’t think so.

    No evaluation, no review–just a bill full of riders designed to exacerbate the problem and dig deeper into the middle-class’ suffering wallets. You and yours think the government can do such a better job at playing Doctor’s office monitor. Yeah, right. I’ve seen THAT picture before. Unlike you, simpering one, I have worked for a major government contractor for 25 years and they know even less than my employer, which means I have to work doubly hard to make a point. I’ll take the devil I know for now until you rubes come up with something that actually has some documented, verifiable evidence that the requisite research has been done and that the recommendation is sound.

    And don’t give me some link to a bs website run by That One, the DNC, or any other site devoted to the adoration of That One. I want real scientific evidence you pinheads have actually looked at anything other than That One’s halo.

    So give US a link, android, and stop spouting the party line. We’re all weary of that crap.

    Thanks, dink.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Let’s call a spade a spade. If George W. Bush hadn’t brought this country to its knees, we never would have had Obama and we wouldn’t be facing all these crises now with a totally incompetent president.

    I concur and have posted such. That being said, right now I’d take him of That One, and EVEN Nixon over Shrub.

    My how things have taken a turn for the worse. I also saw today that WJC called the criticism a right-wing conspiracy against That One.

    That pretty much did it for me and the Democratic party. I thought perhaps I could return after the Haloed One screwed the pooch because Bill was an elder. That was a pipe dream. Screw him, too. This is no longer about party or right-wing this or left-wing that. This is about our Constitution and what it means to be a responsible American.

    This one-time liberal Democrat is now a radical centrist. I think both parties reek of bullshit and are a festering, malignant tumor in need of excising.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Christ, I’m so angry, I could eat nails. That should read, “right now I’d take him over That One”–referring to Shrub.

    My God, I actually typed it. This country is in serious trouble and not from terrorists or potential economic collapse–but from within. More and more citizens apparently want to do less and less.

    Never have so many wanted so much and done so little for so few as the current Obamabot groupies. Keep it up, duds, the goose is about cooked.

  • Surfered

    Go to TreasuryDirect.com and you can see the national debt since our country’s finding.

    When Richard Nixon took office, the national debt was $354 billion. By the time Ford left office, the debt was $699 billion, meaning that Nixon/Ford added $345 billion to the debt.

    Carter added $299 billion.

    Reagan added $1.859 trillion.

    Bush I added $1.554 trillion.

    Clinton added $1.396 trillion.

    Bush II added $5 trillion.

    And W’s policies continue: tax cuts, prescription drug bill, Iraq….etc. Add in the deepest recession since the Great Depression (reducing tax revenue) and the debt is $11 trillion.

    Republican presidents have added $8.758 trillion. Democratic presidents have added $1.695 trillion.

    Congress or no, the President has a veto.

    I am on the side of a balanced budget, but where were you guys the last 8 years?

  • http://N/A breeze

    …. “right now I’d take him over That One”–referring to Shrub.

    Ferd,

    I have, to my utter dismay, been thinking just
    that lately.

    Ditto about Nixon and others, ABO (Anybody But Obama…)

  • Ferd Berfle

    Agreed, breeze. What a pity.

  • Katmoon

    Being in the public eye everyday, on television, having speeches written for you, using a teleprompter and speechifying by talking down to or at the electorate is not the same as having oratory skills. The skill the one has is selling to those who can buy, the rest of us are scenery.

  • Katmoon

    Silenced as usual by the media, and working to make ends meet and sending our children to war; and you?

  • snosandy

    I heard Oprah was going with Michelle, too. But I guess she’s not known well enough to sell Chicago.

  • http://noquarter foxyladi14

    ta da superman flying off to save Chicago…

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    where were *who* guys? I voted Democrat my whole life until 2008.

  • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    doesn’t it seem weird, on the day that we find out Iran has secret nuclear plants, and is testing long range missiles, and McChrystal is asking for more troops, obama goes to plug Chicago for the Olympics…?

    priorities.

  • snosandy

    But he didn’t want to talk about ACORN on Meet the Press last week because there were so many more important issues that needed his attention.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Anyone? Ferd, I had to settle for a 2005 Cab as the 2001 was not worth even cooking with. The 2001 bottle was exiting to look at but once opened it was obvious that the cork suffered. Much like BO.

    The List AGI posted of Rebuplican bills is worth the research.

    If a viable centrist third party were to imerge it would have to be able to withstand the attacks from the left and the right. WJC is sadly defending BO, saying that some of the same people that went after him and recently are still at it, decide to include Obama.

    It was not amusing then and it isn’t now. That crowd can bite me. But think about it. How pathetic is it the he has to stick up for his pal BO?

    ARG!

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Absolutely agree with everything you said!

    I hope the regulars here know I’m no Bush fan, but it won’t get better until we can all agree on how it went wrong in the first place.

    So let’s all sing.

    mmm-mmm-mmm

    :)

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Never have so many wanted so much and done so little for so few as the current Obamabot groupies. Keep it up, duds, the goose is about cooked.

    I love that statement!!

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Well, yeah. Like payback to Chi town for helping him get elected. And kissing Carla Bruni 4 times. And going on Letterman. I’m sure there are many more important examples of how our CiC is busily doing his job.

  • donjo

    I’m sure he’s actually going there to examine the Scandinavian health care programs. He’s so into travel at government expense broadening his horizons, ya know. Is he taking the family dog?

  • Ferd Berfle

    Yeah, and if Chicago should by some dumb luck actually win the bid, the rest of us will lose.

    I hope the Olympics go to a more deserving city–like any other in the running.

  • tango

    I know, I got an email with a picture of Bush looking goofy with a caption that read “miss me yet”?

  • tango

    I know! And the Transportation Secretary and the Education Secretary. Geez, how much federal taxpayer money is being spent (verses Illinois taxpayer money) to get one American city the Olympics?

    Education Secretary Duncan would be better served to leave his a** at home. What exactly has he to crow about? The city he left (Chicago) has seen a steady increase the past few years of the number of school aged children murdered. Kids don’t feel safe at school or traveling to and from school. Maybe he’s proud of the almost 50% drop out rate? For some reason, I doubt President or Mrs. Obama will be highlighting those statistics in their speeches to get the Olympics.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    correct, and their supporters are basically mirror images of each other, too. it’s scary.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    heh heh.

  • mountainaires
  • mountainaires

    Why Would We Let Them Rig The Game?

    Why is health insurance the only business that has an exemption from the Sherman Anti-Trust Act other than Major League Baseball? If the delivery of taxpayer trillions by our politicians to the banks to support their fraudulently paid bonuses hasn’t shown you what our current government’s values are, check this link out.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-ratigan/why-would-we-let-them-rig_b_302480.html

    Through the governmental negligence that we as voters allowed, a health care system was created in which a single health care company controls at least 30 percent of the insurance market in 95% of the country, including states like the following:

    Maine, where Wellpoint controls 71% of the market.

    North Dakota, where Blue Cross controls 90% of the market.

    Arkansas, where Blue Cross Blue Shield controls 75% of the market.

    Alabama, where Blue Cross Blue Shield controls 83% of the market.

    This monopoly, combined with the misaligned incentives that trap people in employer-based health care, is causing the skyrocketing health care costs that are hurtling our nation towards bankruptcy.

    I don’t know what’s worse: that most Republicans seem to be against ending this unfair legal protection for an entrenched industry that is ruining our country with their non-competitive practices, or that most Democrats seem to be threatening this arrangement only as a bargaining chip to push for a meaningless public option that wouldn’t be accessible to almost 85% of the population?

    Instead of improving our country, through creating and enforcing free and fair markets, our politicians are currently engaging in backroom deals, most of which protect the very companies who profit the most from these disastrous outdated systems — industries like health insurance and big Pharma.

    While we clearly have the ability as a group of 305 million to update the system that is American Health Care and move our country into the 21st century in the process, it’s becoming clear that we may not have the leaders to do it.

    Instead of seeking answers to the problem of paying for and providing medicine, we are doing the exact opposite. Taxpayers’ money is being played with by politicians who are desperately trying to protect the competition-stifling, false security of the monopolistic employer-based health care system and its outdated, over-charging, under-delivering ways. Given the least consideration are those affected the most — the patients and the doctors who care for them.

  • graywolf

    Of the under-30 voters, 75% voted for Obama – and the demcong.
    I call this justice.
    The airhead vote got what they wanted, now they have to pay for it.

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “Ditto about Nixon and others, ABO (Anybody But Obama…)”

    I think Nixon is the only one with the chops to handle this Iran situtation.

    Another e.g. of hypocrisy is Dem oppo to Bush’s prescription drug plan for seniors. They attacked Bush’s giveaway to pharma, but now support the same giveaways by Obama. Fact is, Medicare Part D is far from perfect, but seniors are getting more help on prescriptions than before Bush. So why did the Dems oppose it?

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