Comments on: a little reality check for the reality checkers… http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/ Sun, 27 May 2012 07:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: winter park realtor http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1449696 winter park realtor Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:08:24 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1449696 "the presidency is one big Celebrity Sunshine Tour." haha it is kind of like that. Sarah <a href="http://www.weicherthallmark.com/" rel="nofollow">winter park realtor</a> “the presidency is one big Celebrity Sunshine Tour.” haha it is kind of like that.

Sarah
winter park realtor

]]> By: Surfered http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261415 Surfered Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:28:49 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261415 David Brooks and Lindsay Graham have also taken issue with Mr. Beck. They know the Republican Party cannot come back if it is seen as the "crazy party." David Brooks and Lindsay Graham have also taken issue with Mr. Beck. They know the Republican Party cannot come back if it is seen as the “crazy party.”

]]> By: erin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261412 erin Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:19:19 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261412 Thanks for that, but here in Australia The Sydney Olympics are still being hailed as one of the most cost effective Games ever. I don't for one moment doubt your figures, although I am unsure as to whether or not the New South Wales taxpayers are still paying for any outstanding debt. Mind you I wouldn't bet on it. By the way, I love your articles. Thanks for that, but here in Australia The Sydney Olympics are still being hailed as one of the most cost effective Games ever. I don’t for one moment doubt your figures, although I am unsure as to whether or not the New South Wales taxpayers are still paying for any outstanding debt. Mind you I wouldn’t bet on it. By the way, I love your articles.

]]> By: elizabethrc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261401 elizabethrc Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:26:14 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261401 Naomi, you are so obviously pro all things Obama that you miss something a tad important....America is in the midst of two difficult wars, where Obama doesn't have the time to speak with McChrystal, except once since he's been in office, where life and death decisions need to be made NOW! Where is Obama? He is galavanting off to play Mayor of Chicago. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ELECTED HIM TO DO. He's too busy playing celebrity to do any real work. He needs to stay in the damn Oval office and tend to the peoples' business. And by the way, they needed 2 planes for Obama and Michelle? Cost to taxpayers for the planes along? 1.2 million. Drool all over yourself as much as you like, but the other presidents who have pitched for the Olympics haven't been in the midst of war, out of work Americans (9.8%), a health care crisis, illegal immigrant problems, just to name a few of the pressing problems, Obama was supposed to have good judgment? Show me some. It has yet to make an appearance, much as Obama has yet to make an appearance behind his desk!!!! Naomi, you are so obviously pro all things Obama that you miss something a tad important….America is in the midst of two difficult wars, where Obama doesn’t have the time to speak with McChrystal, except once since he’s been in office, where life and death decisions need to be made NOW! Where is Obama? He is galavanting off to play Mayor of Chicago. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ELECTED HIM TO DO. He’s too busy playing celebrity to do any real work. He needs to stay in the damn Oval office and tend to the peoples’ business. And by the way, they needed
2 planes for Obama and Michelle? Cost to taxpayers for the planes along? 1.2 million.
Drool all over yourself as much as you like, but the other presidents who have pitched for the Olympics haven’t been in the midst of war, out of work Americans (9.8%), a health care crisis, illegal immigrant problems, just to name a few of the pressing problems,
Obama was supposed to have good judgment? Show me some. It has yet to make an appearance, much as Obama has yet to make an appearance behind his desk!!!!

]]> By: elizabethrc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261393 elizabethrc Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:05:00 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261393 David Brooks in the NYT (I don't buy it, I won't buy it, I read it for free on line) about the effectiveness of the Becks, Hannitys, Limbaughs on public opinion. in much the same way the Republicans were unable to convince anyone during the election to support their choices and ended up with McCain. Whom do we believe? I watch the polls and it would seem that growing numbers are turning against Obama, the Democratic Congress and their policies. And what of the role of the Matthews, Maddow, Olbermann set? Are they not as 'radical,foaming at the mouth and idealogical' as Brooks accuses the right of being? Do they not shout out and interrupt fully as much as Beck? Apparently that is lost on Brooks. Personally, I don't believe one more than the other, and prefer to listen to the polls, what's happening in the news that can't be skewed, and if it takes a Beck to expose the kinds of people Obama has surrounded himself with, I'll watch and listen, because resignations of these czars, as an example, speak volumes. The Republicans need to come up with a viable Presidential candidate, someone with high intelligence, political savvy, attractive persona (that's too bad, really, because that shouldn't matter, but American being Americans, straight teeth are everything) and great speaking ability. Even if Republicans lose the next presidential election, it shouldn't matter too much, as long as they hold majorities in the Congress. That will neuter Obama. David Brooks in the NYT (I don’t buy it, I won’t buy it, I read it for free on line) about the effectiveness of the Becks, Hannitys, Limbaughs on public opinion.
in much the same way the Republicans were unable to convince anyone during the election to support their choices and ended up with McCain.
Whom do we believe? I watch the polls and it would seem that growing numbers are turning against Obama, the Democratic Congress and their policies.
And what of the role of the Matthews, Maddow, Olbermann set? Are they not as ‘radical,foaming at the mouth and idealogical’ as Brooks accuses the right of being? Do they not shout out and interrupt fully as much as Beck? Apparently that is lost on Brooks.
Personally, I don’t believe one more than the other, and prefer to listen to the polls, what’s happening in the news that can’t be skewed, and if it takes a Beck to expose the kinds of people Obama has surrounded himself with, I’ll watch and listen, because resignations of these czars, as an example, speak volumes.
The Republicans need to come up with a viable Presidential candidate, someone with high intelligence, political savvy, attractive persona (that’s too bad, really, because that shouldn’t matter, but American being Americans, straight teeth are everything) and great speaking ability.
Even if Republicans lose the next presidential election, it shouldn’t matter too much, as long as they hold majorities in the Congress. That will neuter Obama.

]]> By: tarma http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261385 tarma Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:27:48 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261385 This "leader of the free world" thinks that the presidency is one big Celebrity Sunshine Tour. This “leader of the free world” thinks that the presidency is one big Celebrity Sunshine Tour.

]]> By: mountainaires http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261383 mountainaires Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:24:25 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261383 Oops, forgot to say, thanks AGI, loved the blog post. You nailed it! Oops, forgot to say, thanks AGI, loved the blog post. You nailed it!

]]> By: mountainaires http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261382 mountainaires Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:22:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261382 Beck mocked their "reality" on yesterday's show, and he skewered Michelle's comment about their Copenhagen trip being a "sacrifice." It was hilarious; Beck is better than Jon Stewart. Well, now, we'll hear at 12:55 pm EST that [cue the video up please] Chicago will be the site chosen to host the 2016 Olympics. <em>Whatever.</em> The Corruption in this country is way past anything you've ever read in a novel. <strong>Who's Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?</strong> http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/ More: http://original.antiwar.com/scott/2009/10/01/gigantic-scandal-the-sibel-edmonds-story/# Beck mocked their “reality” on yesterday’s show, and he skewered Michelle’s comment about their Copenhagen trip being a “sacrifice.” It was hilarious; Beck is better than Jon Stewart.

Well, now, we’ll hear at 12:55 pm EST that [cue the video up please] Chicago will be the site chosen to host the 2016 Olympics.

Whatever. The Corruption in this country is way past anything you’ve ever read in a novel.

Who’s Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/

More:

http://original.antiwar.com/scott/2009/10/01/gigantic-scandal-the-sibel-edmonds-story/#

]]> By: sarainitaly http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261375 sarainitaly Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:21:42 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261375 and you're right, I don't care if the Olympics are in Chicago - that isn't the point of my post. The point is the WH lying, and not revealing the truth! and you’re right, I don’t care if the Olympics are in Chicago – that isn’t the point of my post. The point is the WH lying, and not revealing the truth!

]]> By: American Girl in Italy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261374 American Girl in Italy Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:06:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261374 Tax payers covered the $2.3Billion shortfall. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/mar2000/olym-m03.shtml Sydney, billed as self-financing, had a $2.3 billion deficit. http://users.resist.ca/~eps2005/olympics.html the true cost of the Games was more like $AUS 5.9 billion, of which the public would be paying $AUS 2.3 billion (Source: www.liebreich.com) Read more: http://www.bcbusinessonline.ca/bcb/top-stories/2009/03/01/when-flame-burns-out?page=0%2C2#ixzz0SmNuT1HZ In 2002 the Auditor-General of New South Wales undertook a further audit, confirming that the Sydney Games had ended up costing $AUS 6.6 billion (£2.3 billion), and had cost the public purse somewhere between $AUS 1.7 and 2.4 billion (between £580m and £830m), depending on your estimate of incremental tax revenues Tax payers covered the $2.3Billion shortfall.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/mar2000/olym-m03.shtml

Sydney, billed as self-financing, had a $2.3 billion deficit. http://users.resist.ca/~eps2005/olympics.html

the true cost of the Games was more like $AUS 5.9 billion, of which the public would be paying $AUS 2.3 billion (Source: http://www.liebreich.com)
Read more: http://www.bcbusinessonline.ca/bcb/top-stories/2009/03/01/when-flame-burns-out?page=0%2C2#ixzz0SmNuT1HZ

In 2002 the Auditor-General of New South Wales undertook a further audit, confirming that the Sydney Games had ended up costing $AUS 6.6 billion (£2.3 billion), and had cost the public purse somewhere between $AUS 1.7 and 2.4 billion (between £580m and £830m), depending on your estimate of incremental tax revenues

]]> By: Linda Anselmi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261373 Linda Anselmi Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:00:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261373 Wow! Excellent Article Sara!! And Great research. <blockquote>but to see it on the ACTUAL White House web site was un frickin believable.</blockquote> And scary. This could turn into the next reality series - White House Lies. Only everyone would think it was so over the top it had to be fiction. Wow! Excellent Article Sara!!

And Great research.

but to see it on the ACTUAL White House web site was un frickin believable.

And scary.

This could turn into the next reality series – White House Lies. Only everyone would think it was so over the top it had to be fiction.

]]> By: Linda Anselmi http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261372 Linda Anselmi Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:59:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261372 Wow! Excellent Article Sara!! And Great research. <blockquote>but to see it on the ACTUAL White House web site was un frickin believable.</blockquote> And scary. This could turn into the next reality series - White House Lies. Only everyone would think it was fiction. Wow! Excellent Article Sara!!

And Great research.

but to see it on the ACTUAL White House web site was un frickin believable.

And scary.

This could turn into the next reality series – White House Lies. Only everyone would think it was fiction.

]]> By: American Girl in Italy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261370 American Girl in Italy Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:53:07 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261370 It's my f*cking business when the Whitehouse.gov site LIES while "fact checking". Why don't you deal with the issue at hand, and quit your attacking and name calling. What you fail to acknowledge is that there ARE Chicagoans who do NOT want the Olympics there because they do not want to add more debt to the already HUGE debt that we have. You also fail to acknowledge that the WH lied/was not truthful in their *reality checks* on the government web site. It’s my f*cking business when the Whitehouse.gov site LIES while “fact checking”.

Why don’t you deal with the issue at hand, and quit your attacking and name calling.

What you fail to acknowledge is that there ARE Chicagoans who do NOT want the Olympics there because they do not want to add more debt to the already HUGE debt that we have. You also fail to acknowledge that the WH lied/was not truthful in their *reality checks* on the government web site.

]]> By: erin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261368 erin Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:25:12 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261368 <em>"Australian taxpayers are still paying off an Olympic debt from the 2004 Sydney Games that could cost them $32 million a year for a decade." </em> Am I missing something here? Sydney did not lose money when it hosted the Olympics because the final cost was neutral, as reported by the New South Wales Government at the time. So what is with the comment that it still owes millions of dollars. “Australian taxpayers are still paying off an Olympic debt from the 2004 Sydney Games that could cost them $32 million a year for a decade.”

Am I missing something here? Sydney did not lose money when it hosted the Olympics because the final cost was neutral, as reported by the New South Wales Government at the time. So what is with the comment that it still owes millions of dollars.

]]> By: kenoshamarge http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/33973/a-little-reality-check-for-the-reality-checkers/#comment-1261364 kenoshamarge Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:35:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=33973#comment-1261364 They <i>should</i> be ignoring Beck and FOX. Instead they give them credibility by their constant carping about them. Wouldn't a strong White House would be above that kind of whining? They give Beck credibility and make themselves look like whiners. Not good at a time when more and more people are saying that Obama is "weak". A weak <i>whiner</i> is hardly the <i>change</i> expected. Or wanted. IMO They should be ignoring Beck and FOX. Instead they give them credibility by their constant carping about them. Wouldn’t a strong White House would be above that kind of whining?

They give Beck credibility and make themselves look like whiners. Not good at a time when more and more people are saying that Obama is “weak”.

A weak whiner is hardly the change expected. Or wanted. IMO

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