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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Obama To Tackle Gay Law, Aide Says&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Beez_Waxing</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/34260/obama-to-tackle-gay-law-aide-says/#comment-1263746</link>
		<dc:creator>Beez_Waxing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gays already serve in the military, and everyone knows it. Those discharged are those who want the right to flaunt it in everyone else&#039;s face, when no one else really gives a shit. Commanders are in fact ordered not to go on witchhunts for gays and lesbians, but that&#039;s not enough for the gay-left. What they really want is the right to make their homosexuality public, which, if you think about it, doesn&#039;t add up to anything really important. It&#039;s just so much more fun to portray yourself as a victim than act like a real soldier: lose your narcissistic political agenda and commit to serving anonymously like everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gays already serve in the military, and everyone knows it. Those discharged are those who want the right to flaunt it in everyone else&#8217;s face, when no one else really gives a shit. Commanders are in fact ordered not to go on witchhunts for gays and lesbians, but that&#8217;s not enough for the gay-left. What they really want is the right to make their homosexuality public, which, if you think about it, doesn&#8217;t add up to anything really important. It&#8217;s just so much more fun to portray yourself as a victim than act like a real soldier: lose your narcissistic political agenda and commit to serving anonymously like everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with NBNW, Tammy.  I certainly hope you haven&#039;t been treated like that here.  If you have, I would say, blame the trolls!  :-)

Seriously, I think if there is one thing we have learned from this past Primary Season, the media lies.  Remember their depiction of Hillary as being cold, impersonal, and humorless?  That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of how she appears, but it suited their purpose, just like it suits their purpose to depict conservatives as gay-bashers.  John McCain is MUCH better on GLBT rights than Obama because HE walks the walk.  When two of his friends in politics came out, McCain stepped in and made it clear they were still the same people they always were, and were to be treated with dignity and respect.  He has not surrounded himself with homophobes the way Obama has, and then expected us to believe he was pro-GLBT people like Obama does.  

IMHO, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with NBNW, Tammy.  I certainly hope you haven&#8217;t been treated like that here.  If you have, I would say, blame the trolls!  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously, I think if there is one thing we have learned from this past Primary Season, the media lies.  Remember their depiction of Hillary as being cold, impersonal, and humorless?  That is the EXACT OPPOSITE of how she appears, but it suited their purpose, just like it suits their purpose to depict conservatives as gay-bashers.  John McCain is MUCH better on GLBT rights than Obama because HE walks the walk.  When two of his friends in politics came out, McCain stepped in and made it clear they were still the same people they always were, and were to be treated with dignity and respect.  He has not surrounded himself with homophobes the way Obama has, and then expected us to believe he was pro-GLBT people like Obama does.  </p>
<p>IMHO, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an image you have painted, Witzend.  And you write beautifully, I might add.

Oh, you know that has vexed me as well.  I wrote abt that some time ago, that our military is taking in CRIMINALS, but kicking out West Point graduated, war decorated soldiers because they are gay or lesbian.  So you can be a gangbanger and serve, but not if you&#039;re gay.  Or you can be a drug dealer.  Whatever - as long as you aren&#039;t GLB, you&#039;re A-Okay.

And you are ABSOLUTELY right abt the increase in sexual violence within our military.  It is both infuriating and saddening that it has gotten so bad, and so little is being written/done abt it.

Thank you for your comment, Witzend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an image you have painted, Witzend.  And you write beautifully, I might add.</p>
<p>Oh, you know that has vexed me as well.  I wrote abt that some time ago, that our military is taking in CRIMINALS, but kicking out West Point graduated, war decorated soldiers because they are gay or lesbian.  So you can be a gangbanger and serve, but not if you&#8217;re gay.  Or you can be a drug dealer.  Whatever &#8211; as long as you aren&#8217;t GLB, you&#8217;re A-Okay.</p>
<p>And you are ABSOLUTELY right abt the increase in sexual violence within our military.  It is both infuriating and saddening that it has gotten so bad, and so little is being written/done abt it.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment, Witzend.</p>
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		<title>By: glennmcgahee</title>
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		<dc:creator>glennmcgahee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to popular belief, Obama does not hate rich people, he is one. He&#039;d actually like for the poor people to shut up and be quiet while he works on getting his family set for life. He and Mechelle love the almighty dollar. Imagine the favors that await him when he retires or rather when we retire him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to popular belief, Obama does not hate rich people, he is one. He&#8217;d actually like for the poor people to shut up and be quiet while he works on getting his family set for life. He and Mechelle love the almighty dollar. Imagine the favors that await him when he retires or rather when we retire him.</p>
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		<title>By: NoBamaNoWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoBamaNoWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think that anybody here thinks that all conservatives are anti-gay, and as time goes on, more and more are supporting gay rights.  i think that more of them are anti-gay than the percentage among left of center people who are anti-gay, but it certainly isn&#039;t 100% one way or the other.  Ozero&#039;s waffling on gay rights, and the strong anti-gay positions of many of his black and hispanic supporters proves this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think that anybody here thinks that all conservatives are anti-gay, and as time goes on, more and more are supporting gay rights.  i think that more of them are anti-gay than the percentage among left of center people who are anti-gay, but it certainly isn&#8217;t 100% one way or the other.  Ozero&#8217;s waffling on gay rights, and the strong anti-gay positions of many of his black and hispanic supporters proves this.</p>
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		<title>By: Witzend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witzend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ferd, it&#039;s so past my bedtime, but I just had to thank you. I&#039;ve spent a couple of thoroughly intriguing and enjoyable hours learning about the USAREUR and Wildflecken. From the veterans&#039; web sites to the history of the town, I couldn&#039;t stop reading. Your experience is as remote from mine as Wildflecken was from civilization. Now, it is I who must solute YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferd, it&#8217;s so past my bedtime, but I just had to thank you. I&#8217;ve spent a couple of thoroughly intriguing and enjoyable hours learning about the USAREUR and Wildflecken. From the veterans&#8217; web sites to the history of the town, I couldn&#8217;t stop reading. Your experience is as remote from mine as Wildflecken was from civilization. Now, it is I who must solute YOU.</p>
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		<title>By: Witzend</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/34260/obama-to-tackle-gay-law-aide-says/#comment-1263222</link>
		<dc:creator>Witzend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. Amy, much as I appreciate the kind words, my family&#039;s experiences and service appear remarkable only from this side of the Pond. Over there, we get the draft notice and report for duty. It&#039;s that simple.

Nevertheless, here&#039;s a little known tidbit you might appreciate. On the last day of basic training, we have a swearing-in ceremony that&#039;s usually held by torchlight after sundown. There&#039;s nothing quite like the sound of 500 voices (male or female) piercing the darkness with a collective &quot;I swear,&quot; but, for them - as for every soldier before them - it all comes together when each is given a copy of the Old Testament in one hand and a rifle in the other. The former is the history of our land and people; the latter is the means to DEFEND them. It&#039;s not about religion, politics or power. It&#039;s just about survival, plain and simple.

But, to the matter of your post, which has vexed me all evening. I remember reading an article a year or two ago about the U.S. military furnishing &quot;moral waivers&quot; to new recruits with criminal records, who make up between 10%-15% of our armed forces. So, to be clear: A soldier with a criminal record can&#039;t be discharged, but a soldier with a criminal record who reveals s/he&#039;s gay is finished. It gets even stranger when you factor in the estimated 1500 cases of rape or sexual assault committed annually against female service members by their fellow soldiers or officers. Call it a shot in the dark, but I&#039;m  guessing none of those perpetrators was gay.

&quot;Stupid is as stupid does.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. Amy, much as I appreciate the kind words, my family&#8217;s experiences and service appear remarkable only from this side of the Pond. Over there, we get the draft notice and report for duty. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, here&#8217;s a little known tidbit you might appreciate. On the last day of basic training, we have a swearing-in ceremony that&#8217;s usually held by torchlight after sundown. There&#8217;s nothing quite like the sound of 500 voices (male or female) piercing the darkness with a collective &#8220;I swear,&#8221; but, for them &#8211; as for every soldier before them &#8211; it all comes together when each is given a copy of the Old Testament in one hand and a rifle in the other. The former is the history of our land and people; the latter is the means to DEFEND them. It&#8217;s not about religion, politics or power. It&#8217;s just about survival, plain and simple.</p>
<p>But, to the matter of your post, which has vexed me all evening. I remember reading an article a year or two ago about the U.S. military furnishing &#8220;moral waivers&#8221; to new recruits with criminal records, who make up between 10%-15% of our armed forces. So, to be clear: A soldier with a criminal record can&#8217;t be discharged, but a soldier with a criminal record who reveals s/he&#8217;s gay is finished. It gets even stranger when you factor in the estimated 1500 cases of rape or sexual assault committed annually against female service members by their fellow soldiers or officers. Call it a shot in the dark, but I&#8217;m  guessing none of those perpetrators was gay.</p>
<p>&#8220;Stupid is as stupid does.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a hater.  He hates gays.  He hates whites(even his &quot;typical white grandma&quot; and his own mother).  He hates rich people(unless it&#039;s him) and he hates dogs(who takes 4 months to pick one unless you hate &#039;em).  

Add on to his list of hates.  There are many, many more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a hater.  He hates gays.  He hates whites(even his &#8220;typical white grandma&#8221; and his own mother).  He hates rich people(unless it&#8217;s him) and he hates dogs(who takes 4 months to pick one unless you hate &#8216;em).  </p>
<p>Add on to his list of hates.  There are many, many more.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an issue with the use of &quot;tackle gay law.&quot;

Is &quot;Gay Law&quot; a tight-end that just was cut?

Or is it that the guy with the ball?

(Remembering that Hillary has the other one)...?

Also while Gen Jones has a professional poker in the fire, why is he speaking for the Joint Chiefs or Sec Def? 

Why is it that anyone in their right mind would think BO was going to DO ANYTHING for the GLBT community? Especially when he sat in a church for twenty years that spared no expense to cap on Gay people? Or the Fact that the TUCC gay chior director was shot execusion style, case remaining unsolved and did BO say anything about it? Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an issue with the use of &#8220;tackle gay law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is &#8220;Gay Law&#8221; a tight-end that just was cut?</p>
<p>Or is it that the guy with the ball?</p>
<p>(Remembering that Hillary has the other one)&#8230;?</p>
<p>Also while Gen Jones has a professional poker in the fire, why is he speaking for the Joint Chiefs or Sec Def? </p>
<p>Why is it that anyone in their right mind would think BO was going to DO ANYTHING for the GLBT community? Especially when he sat in a church for twenty years that spared no expense to cap on Gay people? Or the Fact that the TUCC gay chior director was shot execusion style, case remaining unsolved and did BO say anything about it? Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you read my post above?  I&#039;m a conservative, but I&#039;m pro gay rights.  Nobody here asked me about that. 
The people on this site that assume that all Republicans are EVIL and gay haters are WRONG. 

That&#039;s a false theory that has been perpetuated by the media.  You know, the same media that called Hillary a racist and call all Republicans born again Christians and gay haters. 
THAT IS A LIE, people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read my post above?  I&#8217;m a conservative, but I&#8217;m pro gay rights.  Nobody here asked me about that.<br />
The people on this site that assume that all Republicans are EVIL and gay haters are WRONG. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a false theory that has been perpetuated by the media.  You know, the same media that called Hillary a racist and call all Republicans born again Christians and gay haters.<br />
THAT IS A LIE, people.</p>
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		<title>By: whoframedrudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whoframedrudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dems lost me for good when Joe Biden said to Palin in the VP debate, &#039;there&#039;s no difference between us on gay rights.&#039;  That&#039;s code for &#039;Sarah Palin is soft on queers.&#039;

It&#039;s one thing for Dems to do nothing on gay rights.  But to try to punish Palin with her religious base for not being virulently anti-gay! Biden actively hurt gay rights for his own benefit.  He got away with it because so many of us were blinded by &#039;I Hate Sarah Palin.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dems lost me for good when Joe Biden said to Palin in the VP debate, &#8216;there&#8217;s no difference between us on gay rights.&#8217;  That&#8217;s code for &#8216;Sarah Palin is soft on queers.&#8217;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing for Dems to do nothing on gay rights.  But to try to punish Palin with her religious base for not being virulently anti-gay! Biden actively hurt gay rights for his own benefit.  He got away with it because so many of us were blinded by &#8216;I Hate Sarah Palin.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/34260/obama-to-tackle-gay-law-aide-says/#comment-1263165</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAIT - I just saw WHY Obama is speaking at the dinner - because the NEXT day is a big march calling for increased &quot;legal protections&quot; for GLBT people.  I am not kidding: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/obama-to-address-gay-rights-organization/

Well, THAT explains everything, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAIT &#8211; I just saw WHY Obama is speaking at the dinner &#8211; because the NEXT day is a big march calling for increased &#8220;legal protections&#8221; for GLBT people.  I am not kidding: <a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/obama-to-address-gay-rights-organization/" rel="nofollow">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/obama-to-address-gay-rights-organization/</a></p>
<p>Well, THAT explains everything, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Witzend, thank you for sharing your experience with us.  Speaking for me only, I am honored.

And I agree - Obama&#039;s hemming and hawing abt what to do in Afghanistan, after all of the stuff he said while he was campaigning abt listening to the generals, blah, blah, blah, to now, with our soldiers dying there now.  Unconscionable.

Thanks again, Witzend - moving story.  You and your family have certainly done more than your share in military service.  Wow.

And Ferd, thank you for your service to our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witzend, thank you for sharing your experience with us.  Speaking for me only, I am honored.</p>
<p>And I agree &#8211; Obama&#8217;s hemming and hawing abt what to do in Afghanistan, after all of the stuff he said while he was campaigning abt listening to the generals, blah, blah, blah, to now, with our soldiers dying there now.  Unconscionable.</p>
<p>Thanks again, Witzend &#8211; moving story.  You and your family have certainly done more than your share in military service.  Wow.</p>
<p>And Ferd, thank you for your service to our country.</p>
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		<title>By: yttik</title>
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		<dc:creator>yttik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite true. In fact, it has often been Republicans who have actually delivered on so called liberal things. Roe v Wade was given to us by mostly Republican appointed judges. Gay marriage in Ca was upheld by Republican appointed judges (before the vote). Palin appointed a pro-choice Alaska SC judge, Obama delivered us a pro-life Tim Kaine to head the DNC.

But of course it wouldn&#039;t be profitable for these two parties if people started viewing them in shades of gray, instead of an evil versus good type of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite true. In fact, it has often been Republicans who have actually delivered on so called liberal things. Roe v Wade was given to us by mostly Republican appointed judges. Gay marriage in Ca was upheld by Republican appointed judges (before the vote). Palin appointed a pro-choice Alaska SC judge, Obama delivered us a pro-life Tim Kaine to head the DNC.</p>
<p>But of course it wouldn&#8217;t be profitable for these two parties if people started viewing them in shades of gray, instead of an evil versus good type of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Witzend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Witzend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it precisely as you meant it. The alternative would have never occurred to me. Something to do with the way I&#039;m wired, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it precisely as you meant it. The alternative would have never occurred to me. Something to do with the way I&#8217;m wired, I suppose.</p>
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