Fucking Stan McChrystal

I heard an interesting caller today on the talk box… the person identified himself as working in the JCS and that the reccommendation they had originally was over 100,000 troops. He stated that word came down that they had to get it under 50k troops.

Larry, please tell me these fools are NOT going to do a Rumsfield?

I would be with you on that one, but I keep thinking about the woman and children left there to defend themselves. I can’t get over it.

Yes, Harp has it right. This is deja vu all over again. But we don’t have to go back as far as the 60s-70s. We have the Bush/Rummy years to reference.

I swear to God, if I had my kids over there? I’d be tempted to hop a plane and drag them all home, brig or not.

I’ve quoted my profane [but common sense] grandmother before:

Piss or get off the damn pot!

If the mission is to win then send more troops via the General’s advice. And if this is just political diddling, a “face saving” moment? Then get our young men and women out of there and call it done!

I find this whole dance disgusting. Our kid’s lives are at stake. Does it get any more important than that?

I don’t think so.

Our troops do not deserve this. WTF is wrong with these clowns?

sorry, can’t watch passed Webb lying and smearing McChyrstal on the London speech. Apparently Webb had to swallow a deep load, because his face swelled up.

That was disgusting…and I didn’t watch the rest.

But yes, in a desperate attempt at a job, he ran for Senator, and if I remember correctly when he marketed, I mean wore his son’s boots every day on the campaign trail, he campaigned also in the bad Iraq war…got in and proceded voting for it each time.

Webb p!ssed off the left back then. Senators must love their 6 year terms. What a loser he became in the Senate. And that just crystalized his true character.

I watched a program on TV, not sure which channel, maybe CBS with Katy. It was after the 8 soldiers died holding a position that was to be abandoned the very next day due to our inability to hold the position.They showed the terrain surrounding these strategic positions that are being held by too few soldiers. How they are surrounded by steep hills that make them sitting ducks for whatever ambush may be planned. The report told how the original plan was to win over the villages near the soldiers so they would have allies in the field to help protection. Then it went on to show that due to our bombings with drones on suspected Taliban positions, we’ve ended up killing innocents and therefore lost any good will we had been counting on from the Afganistan people in the countryside. I think the bombings were mostly carried out by drones. The gist of the report showed our troops totally undermanned where they had been planted and the countryside littered with mountains from which the Taliban were able to come at us from all directions. Our soldiers appeared to be like sitting ducks sent on a suicide mission. You couldn’t help but feel the inadequacy of the manpower and support these soldiers must be experiencing. I think by now its been shown that maybe Bush was correct when he said we must fight them over there, lest we fight them over here. If Obama is committed, then provide the soldiers and equipment to get the job done now, before we lose too many good men/women. Shit or get off the pot.
I don’t see the memorials and death counts on the news any longer. I don’t see the news coverage and potilicians running over there for their photo ops since they don’t have the protection of the Green Zone and the cash that flowed like water in Iraq.

It’s absolutely disgusting what Obama and the dems are doing to General McCrystal and to our brave young men and women in Afghanistan. What happened to the party and the president who were supposed to bring us change? The labels have changed but the product is still the same – lies, distortions, fraud, cronyism, and a government in Washington that still cares more about themselves than the people they are supposed to be serving.

There are two command principles which are in conflict here. They are:

1. The commander in chief is obliged to support the field commander he selects and places for a theater of operations where American lives are at stake. This means he must listen to his recommendations, consider them and provide timely decisions. Note: by all appearances, Mr. Obama, (aka Jack Squat) has failed to fulfill his obligations in this respect.

2. The field commander is obliged to adhere to the chain of command, to advise the president on the military aspects of the operation just as others will address the political, economic and foreign policy ramifications. Note: if Mr. Obama (aka Jack Squat) refuses to provide timely a decision on a matter and procrastination is likely to cause a loss of American lives, then it is incumbent upon the field commander to force the issue, but only when all else fails. As Arleigh Burke once observed any commander who does not exceed his orders when circumstances warrant is not worth much to the sailors in his command.

For those who are privy to the inside story, the military had to force a highly reluctant Obama (aka Jack Squat) to make a decision in that case as well.

I can’t imagine anything worse than being a man who doesn’t give a fig about politics working for Barack Obama.

What is this compulsion of recent presidents to throw their generals under the bus? It must be a result of a burning desire to blame the troops for their own incompetence.

Those poll numbers baffle me, too. I was positive they’d take a nose-dive after that god-awful performance by the Obamas in Copenhagen. The Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll actually went up a couple of points.

Maybe when even more Americans die in Afghanistan we’ll see those numbers go down. {sigh}

Anyway, thanks for the assessment of McChrystal, Larry. He sounds like a good man in a really bad place.

Mr Obama (aka Jack Squat) would be well served to bring General McChrystal to Washington and let him appear before Congress, rather than imposing a gag rule and handling everything in secrecy. Obamalie 933,248 was that his administration would practice transparency. Has Obama ever told the truth about anything in his life? I mean ever? The man is pathological.

I realize the sensitivity of the issue, but the American people need to hear the truth from someone they can trust, rather than another lie from a Chicago poll who never let a little thing like the truth stand in the way of self aggrandizement, and serving his corporate handlers at the expense of constituents, through Rezko arrangements.

Sarah Palin: It is the time to act as a Commander-in-Chief.”

You may find it interesting that msnbc would present Mike Barnicle as an expert on Afghanistan, and the McChrystal controversy. Is this an imposter, or is perchance the same Mike Barnacle who was fired from the Boston Globe for publishing stories which had no basis in fact. Some might think it was unseemly for a network to rely on the insights of a proven liar, and broadcast them to the public under their fcc license, but being a great admirer of msnbc, imelt and soros myself, and knowing that the simple act of lying is as nothing compared to what they do, I really couldn’t comment.

It is well past time to make a decision. Since Obama went on and on about Afghanistan during the primaries and general election, you would think he’s had more than enough time to study the situation and develop a long range plan.

He’s setting himself up for a detractor to start a casualty count from the time of the request for more troops asking just how many more troops need to die before the Commander-in-Chief makes up his mind (hopefully he make this decision faster than the one about which dog to buy for his girls).

well whtja spect from our present of the United States

Now we have assholes, including Senator Jim Webb and NSC Director Jim Jones, doing their chickenshit best to smear McChrystal. Sorry boys, but just because you don’t like the message does not mean you get a free pass to smear the man. This is why the military hates fucking politicians.

I couldn’t have expressed it better. These bastard politicians need to shut their collective pie-holes, listen up when the general speaks, and give him what he needs. End of discussion. This man needs our support.