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		<title>By: stodgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stodgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true repubs have their issues, however they never showed contempt and outright hatred of the average american. that really gets under my fingernails i have to tell you. i am now firmly convinced that barrack obama depises all things american. he got it from his mother. maybe his book should have read NIGHTMARES OF MY MOTHER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true repubs have their issues, however they never showed contempt and outright hatred of the average american. that really gets under my fingernails i have to tell you. i am now firmly convinced that barrack obama depises all things american. he got it from his mother. maybe his book should have read NIGHTMARES OF MY MOTHER.</p>
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		<title>By: snowhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add that I was a democratic delegate in my district,an officer in the Democratic club and belonged to the state and county clubs in Michigan.I have had a rough time getting out of these doings but finally just quit attending and making excuses.I have lost friends but I try to be honest.Have joined the tea party and attended a couple of meetings and have been surprised at how many x-dems I have met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add that I was a democratic delegate in my district,an officer in the Democratic club and belonged to the state and county clubs in Michigan.I have had a rough time getting out of these doings but finally just quit attending and making excuses.I have lost friends but I try to be honest.Have joined the tea party and attended a couple of meetings and have been surprised at how many x-dems I have met.</p>
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		<title>By: snowhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too deal with phone calls and shiny brochures asking for money.Even Chris Dodd sends e-mails wanting donations!!!!A lot of e-mails come from  states asking for money to pay for campaigns for people you do not even know.I tell them how I have felt since the campaign but they could care less.This week I have gotten phone calls to call my senator and congressman to tell them I want them to vote for the Obama healthcare plan and his energy program.I finally tell them no and hang up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too deal with phone calls and shiny brochures asking for money.Even Chris Dodd sends e-mails wanting donations!!!!A lot of e-mails come from  states asking for money to pay for campaigns for people you do not even know.I tell them how I have felt since the campaign but they could care less.This week I have gotten phone calls to call my senator and congressman to tell them I want them to vote for the Obama healthcare plan and his energy program.I finally tell them no and hang up.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana L. C.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/34389/so-am-i-an-ethics-er-or-a-corruption-er/#comment-1264853</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana L. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly--leading by example is the best way.  My parents, I&#039;m proud to say, never told us to do as they say, not as they do.  Instead, they asked us to do as they say, and they also did as they said.

I guess that is why the hypocrisy of Congress grates so much on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly&#8211;leading by example is the best way.  My parents, I&#8217;m proud to say, never told us to do as they say, not as they do.  Instead, they asked us to do as they say, and they also did as they said.</p>
<p>I guess that is why the hypocrisy of Congress grates so much on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good information, Linda.
One thing I won&#039;t be calling myself is a feminist, no offense intended.
The polls that had Obama at 52% a week or so ago, were due to the unflagging support of women.
He had lost independents and some younger white males.
McCain/Palin only carried the senior population, so independents are the key to the coming elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good information, Linda.<br />
One thing I won&#8217;t be calling myself is a feminist, no offense intended.<br />
The polls that had Obama at 52% a week or so ago, were due to the unflagging support of women.<br />
He had lost independents and some younger white males.<br />
McCain/Palin only carried the senior population, so independents are the key to the coming elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy in Ks.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy in Ks.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this article.  I only wish that we could vote out a lot of corrupt dems in congress next month instead of next year.  However, there is the danger that we exchange one brand of &quot;corruption&quot; for another.
But I do think, one thing politicians are learning even if some don&#039;t want to acknowledge it, is that the American people are paying attention to what their representatives in congress and the White House are doing or &quot;not doing&quot;.  The American people have shown with the &quot;tea parties&quot; and &quot;town hall meetings&quot; that they will not be cowled into submission with  name-calling and dismissal of their concerns. 
 Also, contrary to the thinking of the &quot;elitist&quot; in both political parties, many Americans now have access to the internet - even people like myself who at the age of 60 only really started using the internet when Hillary Clinton was running in the democratic primaries. The saying &quot;necessity is the mother of invention&quot; was true for me because I didn&#039;t like what I was seeing in the MSM so I turned to the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article.  I only wish that we could vote out a lot of corrupt dems in congress next month instead of next year.  However, there is the danger that we exchange one brand of &#8220;corruption&#8221; for another.<br />
But I do think, one thing politicians are learning even if some don&#8217;t want to acknowledge it, is that the American people are paying attention to what their representatives in congress and the White House are doing or &#8220;not doing&#8221;.  The American people have shown with the &#8220;tea parties&#8221; and &#8220;town hall meetings&#8221; that they will not be cowled into submission with  name-calling and dismissal of their concerns.<br />
 Also, contrary to the thinking of the &#8220;elitist&#8221; in both political parties, many Americans now have access to the internet &#8211; even people like myself who at the age of 60 only really started using the internet when Hillary Clinton was running in the democratic primaries. The saying &#8220;necessity is the mother of invention&#8221; was true for me because I didn&#8217;t like what I was seeing in the MSM so I turned to the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: whoframedrudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whoframedrudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I read Maxine Waters between the lines, she&#039;s saying Rangel has dirt on half the Congress, so he&#039;s not going anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I read Maxine Waters between the lines, she&#8217;s saying Rangel has dirt on half the Congress, so he&#8217;s not going anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: beachnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>beachnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martha, you must be talking about kxra.  I used to listen to that station a lot.  You&#039;re right.  The sexism is rampant.  I remember calling Hal, during the primary, and arguing about Obama vs Hillary.  His big opposition to Hillay, was &quot;supposedly&quot; her vote for the Iraq War.  My arguement against Obama was his lacking resume.  That was the last time I listened until recently when I turned to it to see who was on, and lo and behold it was Karel.  Yuck!  I used to listen to Karel too, and then he just went off the deep end for Obama and against everyone else.  Here he is a gay man, who is totally unrepresented by &quot;the one&quot;.  I guess you get what you deserve.  Wish I could find someone to listen to, I still can&#039;t stand Limbaugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha, you must be talking about kxra.  I used to listen to that station a lot.  You&#8217;re right.  The sexism is rampant.  I remember calling Hal, during the primary, and arguing about Obama vs Hillary.  His big opposition to Hillay, was &#8220;supposedly&#8221; her vote for the Iraq War.  My arguement against Obama was his lacking resume.  That was the last time I listened until recently when I turned to it to see who was on, and lo and behold it was Karel.  Yuck!  I used to listen to Karel too, and then he just went off the deep end for Obama and against everyone else.  Here he is a gay man, who is totally unrepresented by &#8220;the one&#8221;.  I guess you get what you deserve.  Wish I could find someone to listen to, I still can&#8217;t stand Limbaugh.</p>
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		<title>By: arky</title>
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		<dc:creator>arky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw all the bums out and start over.

My usual choice for Senator is bad (Dem) or worse (Repub). and that goes for both Lincoln &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; Pryor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw all the bums out and start over.</p>
<p>My usual choice for Senator is bad (Dem) or worse (Repub). and that goes for both Lincoln <em>and</em> Pryor.</p>
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		<title>By: Valuable Internet Information &#187; So Does This Make Me an Ethics-er? Or a Corruption-er? : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<title>By: Martha Washington Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Washington Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, am still contacted by various Dims I interacted with during the primary season.  Also Patterson of NY has been sending me emails; my name on his list I suppose from contacting him during the Caroline issue (Please don&#039;t appoint her).  

Last week I had 2 emails form a local liberal radio station I used to listen to...until the misogyny became so thick I gagged.  1st one I merely responded by &quot;take me off your mailing list.&quot;  Then another one Monday which I gave the same response...then another one with the dumb ass station owner asking me &quot;Who are you?&quot;  First thought was if you don&#039;t know why are you soliciting me?  My answer:  &quot;Former listener-life long Democrat, now Independent aka Democrat in Exile.&quot;  That ended that.  Their programming has become even more radical leftist since the election even putting on Karel, a left wing gay activist, who was fired from SF&#039;s KGO after having a vile rant against Sarah and suggesting violence toward her. They didn&#039;t like her either but couldn&#039;t defend him.  Used to listen to him all the time but that ended KGO for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, am still contacted by various Dims I interacted with during the primary season.  Also Patterson of NY has been sending me emails; my name on his list I suppose from contacting him during the Caroline issue (Please don&#8217;t appoint her).  </p>
<p>Last week I had 2 emails form a local liberal radio station I used to listen to&#8230;until the misogyny became so thick I gagged.  1st one I merely responded by &#8220;take me off your mailing list.&#8221;  Then another one Monday which I gave the same response&#8230;then another one with the dumb ass station owner asking me &#8220;Who are you?&#8221;  First thought was if you don&#8217;t know why are you soliciting me?  My answer:  &#8220;Former listener-life long Democrat, now Independent aka Democrat in Exile.&#8221;  That ended that.  Their programming has become even more radical leftist since the election even putting on Karel, a left wing gay activist, who was fired from SF&#8217;s KGO after having a vile rant against Sarah and suggesting violence toward her. They didn&#8217;t like her either but couldn&#8217;t defend him.  Used to listen to him all the time but that ended KGO for me.</p>
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		<title>By: pm317</title>
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		<dc:creator>pm317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katmoon, what an interesting exercise, much of it irrelevant for the current times as you noted. I bet they are all the same now because each on either side of the fence is thinking how to raise all that money for campaigns. But the appalling revelation of the last primary election is that despite millions of dollars spent in a campaign the people still have the good sense to not vote for the fatally flawed candidate. But as a reaction to that we saw that the party resorted to unethical means to prop him up and drag him through the finish line. There are no grand principles or ethical norms practiced in either party apparatus at this time. 

Linda,thanks for running all those revealing stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katmoon, what an interesting exercise, much of it irrelevant for the current times as you noted. I bet they are all the same now because each on either side of the fence is thinking how to raise all that money for campaigns. But the appalling revelation of the last primary election is that despite millions of dollars spent in a campaign the people still have the good sense to not vote for the fatally flawed candidate. But as a reaction to that we saw that the party resorted to unethical means to prop him up and drag him through the finish line. There are no grand principles or ethical norms practiced in either party apparatus at this time. </p>
<p>Linda,thanks for running all those revealing stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Washington Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Washington Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are very adept at looking down their noses at others.  Condescension breeds contempt...which is what I feel toward my old party and every member who opens their lying mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are very adept at looking down their noses at others.  Condescension breeds contempt&#8230;which is what I feel toward my old party and every member who opens their lying mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Country First</title>
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		<dc:creator>Country First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering how much our negative opinion of George W Bush was ecouraged and promoted by the mad-stream media.  A lot, I believe,  His clumsy gaffes were repeated 24-7 and made fun of him and we the listeners bought into it.  The opposite happened with Barak Obama.  Gaffes, supid comments, unquestional actions and relationships were hidden from the public.  I for one, will never, ever vote Democratic again.  I hope we will have some decent independents running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering how much our negative opinion of George W Bush was ecouraged and promoted by the mad-stream media.  A lot, I believe,  His clumsy gaffes were repeated 24-7 and made fun of him and we the listeners bought into it.  The opposite happened with Barak Obama.  Gaffes, supid comments, unquestional actions and relationships were hidden from the public.  I for one, will never, ever vote Democratic again.  I hope we will have some decent independents running.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Anselmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Anselmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Sue and Diana L.C. -

I agree.  Independents are the great untold story so far, and I think it is quite amazing how well politicians and media are able to ignore the whole group.  Just because we don&#039;t have a &quot;party&quot; affiliated with the name.</description>
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<p>I agree.  Independents are the great untold story so far, and I think it is quite amazing how well politicians and media are able to ignore the whole group.  Just because we don&#8217;t have a &#8220;party&#8221; affiliated with the name.</p>
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