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Oppo Research on Obama’s Shifting, Finger-to-the-wind Iraq Stands

Below you’ll find a detailed press release from the John McCain campaign that reflects the extraordinary coverage covering Obama’s shifting positions and statements about Iraq.

My note: I know so many Obama followers who flocked to Obama because he told them what they were desperate to hear, given their incalculable and understandable distress during the eight years of Bush/Cheney. They held against Hillary Clinton her vote in 2002, even though her Senate floor speech on October 10, 2002 made very clear her grave concerns and stated her warnings about the use of military force: “If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. … So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option. …”

Luckily for Mr. Obama, he wasn’t yet a U.S. Senator, so didn’t have to vote. In fact, in 2004, he said he wasn’t sure how he would have voted. Instead, Mr. Obama made a single speech on October 2, 2002 before 1,000 people in Chicago’s Federal Plaza that was not even mentioned by Chicago media. By 2006, war opponents, frantic to find a “savior,” flocked to Obama based on that one speech that was never followed by any further speeches or any further actions towards stopping or ending the Iraq war.

It’s quite something that he was able to exploit a single speech, unnoted at the time, to attract legions of followers. It’s quite something that, since no video or audio exists, his campaign media experts had to recreate his speech in a recording studio. It’s quite something that his followers continue to support him, even after he joined the U.S. Senate and voted exactly as did Hillary Clinton, except that she voted against Gen. George Casey while Obama voted for the unqualified general whose knowledge about troop and supply deficiencies were wholly inadequate, as Sen. Clinton’s grilling of Gen. Casey during a Senate hearing proved.

So, Obama’s followers have bought into his opposition to the Iraq war on rather threadbare proof: A single speech followed by, in the last 18 months, a lot of campaign rhetoric in rally speeches. Clear back in 2004, the late Tim Russert, on Meet The Press, exposed Obama’s shifting statements:

In July of `04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of `04. And this: “I think” there’s “some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war.” It doesn’t seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have voted for it. (“Meet the Press,” 2004, via MyDD, Nov. 11, 2007)

So, it’s no surprise to me that the MSM has discovered what we here knew last year when we began investigating Obama’s real record on Iraq:

WHAT THEY’RE SAYING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA’S CHANGING IRAQ POSITION


For Immediate Release

Contact: Press Office

Saturday, July 5, 2008

“I Think This Is One Of The Biggest Things That’s Happened So Far In This General Election.” — Mark Halperin (CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees,” 7/3/08)

Barack Obama “Struggled” To Explain His Iraq Position, Called Do-Over Press Conference:

ABC News: “Barack Obama Struggled Thursday In Two Separate News Conferences To Explain His Plan To Withdraw U.S. Troops From Iraq.”

“Whatever happened to ‘absolute clarity’? Barack Obama struggled Thursday in two separate news conferences to explain his plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.” (Teddy Davis, Sunlen Miller, and Gregory Wallace, “‘We’re Gonna Try This Again,’” ABC News’ “The Notes Sneak Peek,” 7/3/08)

· ABC News: “There’s Been Lots Of Speculation This Week About Whether Sen. Barack Obama Has An Iraq Problem. He Does Now.” (Rick Klein, “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire,” ABC News’ “Political Punch” Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, Posted 7/3/08)

· ABC’s John Berman: “He Felt The Need To Hold Two News Conferences To Clarify His Position.” (ABC’s “Good Morning America,” 7/4/08)

The Associated Press: Barack Obama “Struggled Thursday” To Explain His Iraq Position. “Democrat Barack Obama struggled Thursday to explain how his upcoming trip to Iraq might refine, but not basically alter, his promise to quickly remove U.S. combat troops from the war.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama Says Iraq Trip Could Refine His Policy,” The Associated Press, 7/4/08)

· The Associated Press: Barack Obama Offered A “Messy Series Of Comments” On Iraq. “It was Obama’s messy series of comments Thursday, coming after weeks in which Republicans had been goading him to change his withdrawal policy in light of reduced violence, that put an unfortunate spotlight on his quandary.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama’s Centrist Emphasis Gives GOP Ammo,” The Associated Press, 7/5/08)

CBS: Barack Obama Forced To Call “A Hastily Organized Press Conference.” “Barack Obama called a hastily organized press conference to clarify an earlier statement where he suggested he’d ‘refine’ his Iraq policy after he visits Iraq later this summer.” (Maria Gavrilovic, “Obama Clarifies Iraq Remarks,” CBS News, 7/3/08)

CNN’s Anderson Cooper: Obama “Scrambling To Explain His Position On Iraq.” CNN’S ANDERSON COOPER: “We begin though with Barack Obama scrambling to explain his position on Iraq. This morning, he seemed to open the door to changing his mind on a 16-month timetable for pulling troops out of Iraq.” (CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees,” 7/3/08)

CNN’s Jessica Yellin: Barack Obama “Found Himself In An Odd Spot Holding A Do-Over Press Conference.” CNN’S JESSICA YELLIN: “Barack Obama faced a firestorm about whether he’s backing off the central pledge of his campaign, to withdraw combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office. The concern became so intense, he found himself in an odd spot holding a do-over press conference.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 7/4/08)

Fox News: Barack Obama Was “Obviously Annoyed With Reporters.” “Obviously annoyed with reports that he’d hedged his position on troop withdrawals from Iraq after he told reporters that he would ‘continue to refine’ his policies after his upcoming visit to Iraq, the campaign held a second avail to attempt to clarify his views on the matter.” (Bonney Kapp, “Obama On Iraq Take Two,” Fox News, 7/3/08)

Los Angeles Times: Barack Obama “Struggled” To Explain His Position On Iraq In A Press Conference. “Barack Obama struggled Thursday to explain his plan to end the war in Iraq, calling a rare do-over news conference to insist that he was not softening his campaign pledge to withdraw all combat troops within 16 months of becoming president.” (Peter Nicholas, “Republicans Seize On Obama’s Comments On Iraq,” Los Angeles Times, 7/4/08)

NBC’s Lester Holt: “Obama Suddenly Founding Himself Working Hard To Explain” His Iraq Position. NBC’S LESTER HOLT: “It is the eve of the Independence Day holiday, and while most Americans were settling in for a leisurely long weekend, late this afternoon Barack Obama suddenly found himself working hard to explain something he said earlier today about ending the war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 7/3/08)

New York Daily News: Barack Obama “Struggled To Explain” His Iraq Position. “Barack Obama said Thursday he may ‘refine’ his 16-month timetable for getting out of Iraq — and then struggled to explain what he meant after Republicans branded him a flip-flopper.” (Michael McAuliff, “GOP Pounces As Barack Obama Says Iraq Exit Plan Could Be ‘Refined,’” New York Daily News, 7/3/08)

Reuters: Barack Obama “Forced To call Reporters Back For A Second News Conference.” “Obama was forced to call reporters back for a second news conference in Fargo, North Dakota, after he initially left open the possibility of revising his 16-month timetable for pulling U.S. combat forces from Iraq.” (John Whitesides, “Obama Wades Into Controversy With Iraq Comments,” Reuters, 7/3/08)

Barack Obama “Opening The Door To Altering His Iraq Policy”:

The Associated Press: “Democrat Barack Obama Is Opening The Door To Altering His Iraq Policy.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama Opens Door To Altering Iraq Policy,” The Associated Press, 7/3/08)

The Associated Press: Barack Obama “Acknowledged That The 16-Month Timeline Could Indeed Slip If Removing Troops Risked Their Safety Or Iraqi Stability.” “After his remark at a news conference about refining policy exploded onto the political scene, he called a do-over four hours later to ‘try this again.’ He said the refining wouldn’t be related to his promise to remove combat forces within 16 months of taking office, but to the number of troops needed to train Iraqis and fight al-Qaida. But then he acknowledged that the 16-month timeline could indeed slip if removing troops risked their safety or Iraqi stability.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama’s Centrist Emphasis Gives GOP Ammo,” The Associated Press, 7/5/08)

CBS’ Dean Reynolds: “Obama Sounded Surprisingly Willing To Change His Position On Iraq.” CBS’ DEAN REYNOLDS: “In North Dakota today, Barack Obama sounded surprisingly willing to change his position on Iraq. … But the statement about refining his position paled next to the applause-winning declarations that carried him through the primaries.” (CBS’ “Evening News,” 7/3/08)

CNN’s Jessica Yellin: “When Pressed, He Refused To Commit To That 16-Month Time Frame, Insisting Any Good Commander-In-Chief Adjusts.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 7/4/08)

Fox News’ Major Garrett: “Speaking Of The Battlefield, Obama Is Creating New Room To Maneuver On The Question Of Withdrawing U.S. Combat Forces From Iraq.” (Fox News’ “Special Report With Brit Hume,” 7/4/08)

Los Angeles Times: Barack Obama “Has Carefully Hedged” On Iraq. “In the past, Obama has stressed his plan to begin a withdrawal immediately and complete it within 16 months. But he has carefully hedged, leaving the option of taking more time if needed.” (Peter Nicholas, “Republicans Seize On Obama’s Comments On Iraq,” Los Angeles Times, 7/4/08)

· Los Angeles Times: Barack Obama “Seemed Just Now To Signal A Softened Position On His Time Line For Withdrawing Troops From Iraq.” “Our colleague Peter Nicholas, trailing along after Barack Obama in Fargo, North Dakota, reports that Obama seemed just now to signal a softened position on his time line for withdrawing troops from Iraq.” (Scott Martelle, “Is Barack Obama Softening His Iraq Withdrawal Timeline?” Los Angeles Times’ “Top Of The Ticket” Blog, http://latimesblogs.latimes.com, Posted 7/3/08)

NBC’s Lee Cowan: “The Campaign Is Quick To Point Out That It Would Be Irresponsible For The Senator Not To At Least Leave Open The Possibility Of Learning Something On His Trip To Iraq That Might Change His Positions. Otherwise, As One Adviser Put It, ‘What’s The Point Of Making That Trip In The First Place?’” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 7/3/08)

The New York Post: Barack Obama “Left The Door Open” To Changing His Iraq Policies. “Barack Obama, who ran hard during the Democratic primaries on an anti-Iraq-war message, yesterday left the door open to ‘refining’ his 16-month troop-withdrawal plan as he prepares for a Mideast trip.” (Maggie Haberman, “Obama Pulls About-Face,” The New York Post, 7/4/08)

The New York Times: “There Have Been Increasing Signs Of Debate Among Democrats — And Seemingly Among Some Obama Advisers — About What To Do In Iraq.” (Michael Cooper and Jeff Zeleny, “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks,” The New York Times, 7/4/08)

The Washington Post: Barack Obama “Left Open The Possibility” That He Would Slow His 16-Month Withdrawal Plan. “Sen. Barack Obama left open the possibility of slowing his promised, 16-month withdrawal of combat forces from Iraq, saying he would consult with military commanders on an upcoming trip to the region to ensure a withdrawal would keep troops safe and Iraq stable.” (Jonathan Weisman, “Obama Softens On Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The Washington Post’s “The Trail” Blog, http://blog.washingtonpost.com, Posted 7/3/08)

· The Washington Post: “Today’s Comments From Obama Were The Most Extended On The Issue, And They Leaned Hard Toward Flexibility, Even As He Said His Position Has Not Shifted.” (Jonathan Weisman, “Obama Softens On Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The Washington Post’s “The Trail” Blog, http://blog.washingtonpost.com, Posted 7/3/08)

The Washington Post’s Charles Krauthammer: Barack Obama Will Change His Iraq Position Very Soon. “Two weeks ago, I predicted that by Election Day Obama will have erased all meaningful differences with McCain on withdrawal from Iraq. I underestimated Obama’s cynicism. He will make the move much sooner. He will use his upcoming Iraq trip to finally acknowledge the remarkable improvements on the ground and to formally abandon his primary season commitment to a fixed 16-month timetable for removal of all combat troops.” (Charles Krauthammer, Op-Ed, “A Man of Seasonal Principles,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)

· Krauthammer: Barack Obama’s “Shift Has Already Begun.” “The shift has already begun. Yesterday, he said that his ‘original position’ on withdrawal has always been that ‘we’ve got to make sure that our troops are safe and that Iraq is stable.’ And that ‘when I go to Iraq … I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies.’” (Charles Krauthammer, Op-Ed, “A Man of Seasonal Principles,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)

· Krauthammer: Even Though Obama Has Yet To Go Back To Iraq, “The Flip Is Almost Complete.” “He hasn’t even gone to Iraq and the flip is almost complete. All that’s left to say is that the 16-month time frame remains his goal but that he will, of course, take into account the situation on the ground and the recommendation of his generals in deciding whether the withdrawal is to occur later or even sooner.” (Charles Krauthammer, Op-Ed, “A Man of Seasonal Principles,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)

Barack Obama’s Openness To Refining His Position At Odds With Previous Commitments:

ABC News: Barack Obama’s “Openness To Adjust His 16-Month Withdrawal Plan Was Somewhat At Odds” With Previous Comments. “Obama’s openness to adjust his 16-month withdrawal plan was somewhat at odds with the stance he took during a recent ABC News debate. At the time, Obama seemed to stand by his campaign manager’s unambiguous pledge to have troops out of Iraq in 16 months ‘at the most.’” (Teddy Davis, Sunlen Miller, and Gregory Wallace, “‘We’re Gonna Try This Again,’” ABC News’ “The Notes Sneak Peek,” 7/3/08)

The Politico: Barack Obama “Backed Off His Firm Promise To Withdraw Combat Forces From Iraq Immediately.” “Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Thursday backed off his firm promise to withdraw combat forces from Iraq immediately and instead said he could ‘refine’ his plan after his trip to Baghdad later this month.” (Mike Allen, “Obama To ‘Refine’ Iraq Plan,” The Politico, 7/3/08)

Barack Obama Playing Politics With Iraq Position:

ABC News: Barack Obama Will Be “Unlikely To Give A Direct, Yes-Or-No Answer” When Asked Where He Stands On His Iraq Plan. “There will be only one relevant question now out of Obama’s trip now: Do you stand by your plan? Obama is unlikely to give a direct, yes-or-no answer — and that’s where Sen. John McCain and his allies can and will pounce.” (Rick Klein, “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire,” ABC News’ “Political Punch” Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, Posted 7/3/08)

Fox News: Barack Obama In The General Election “Has Been Talking Less About Troop Withdrawal.” “But now as Obama enters the general election and hopes to compete for a wider range of voters, he has been talking less about troop withdrawal – something he explained was because he’d been spending a lot of time talking about the economy.” (Bonney Kapp, “Obama Keeps Iraq Options Open,” Fox News, 7/3/08)

The New York Times: Barack Obama “Recently Spoken Less About Withdrawal.” “With violence ebbing in Iraq, however, he has recently spoken less about withdrawal and has increasingly emphasized the failure to achieve political reconciliation in that country.” (Michael Cooper and Jeff Zeleny, “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks,” The New York Times, 7/4/08)

The Wall Street Journal: Lately, Barack Obama Has Left Out His Pledge To Withdraw Troops Within 16 Months From His Public Speeches. “According to the Obama campaign Website Sen. Obama would move one to two combat brigades a month home from Iraq and have “all [U.S.] combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.” But lately he has left out the phrase ’16 months’ entirely.” (Amy Chozick, “Obama Defines His Position On Iraq War,” The Wall Street Journal, 7/4/08)

In The Headlines:

ABC News: “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire”
(Rick Klein, “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire,” ABC News “Political Punch” Blog, 7/3/08)

The Associated Press: “Obama Opens Door To Altering Iraq Policy”
(Jennifer Loven, “Obama Opens Door To Altering Iraq Policy,” The Associated Press, 7/3/08)

Chicago Tribune: “Obama May ‘Refine’ Iraq Policy”
(Katie Fretland, “Obama May ‘Refine’ Iraq Policy,” Chicago Tribune’s “The Swamp” Blog, 7/3/08)

Fox News: “Obama Keeps Iraq Options Open”
(Bonney Kapp, “Obama Keeps Iraq Options Open,” Fox News’ “Fox Embedded” Blog, 7/3/08)

The Hill: “Obama Says Slower Iraq Withdrawal Possible”
(Ian Swanson, “Obama Says Slower Iraq Withdrawal Possible,” The Hill, 7/3/08)

Los Angeles Times: “Is Barack Obama Softening His Iraq Withdrawal Timeline?”
(Scott Martelle, “Is Barack Obama Softening His Iraq Withdrawal Timeline?” Los Angeles Times’ “Top Of The Ticket” Blog, 7/3/08)

The Politico: “Obama Rewrites Iraq Plan”
(Mike Allen, “Obama Rewrites Iraq Plan,” The Politico, 7/3/08)

New York Post: “Obama Pulls About-Face”
(Maggie Haberman, “Obama Pulls About-Face,” New York Post, 7/4/08)

The New York Times: “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks”
(Michael Cooper and Jeff Zeleny, “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks,” The New York Times, 7/4/08)


The New York Times: “Obama: Open To ‘Refine’ Iraq Withdrawal Timeline”

(Jeff Zeleny, “Obama: Open to ‘Refine’ Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The New York Times’ “The Caucus” Blog, 7/3/08)

Reuters: “Obama Says He Might ‘Refine’ His Iraq Position”
(John Whitesides, “Obama Says He Might ‘Refine’ His Iraq Position,” Reuters, 7/3/08)

Time: “Obama Plans To ‘Refine’ Iraq Plan”
(Mark Halperin, “Obama Plans to ‘Refine’ Iraq Plan,” Time’s “The Page” Blog, 7/3/08)

The Wall Street Journal: “Obama’s Iraq Plan May Be Refined”
(Amy Chozick, “Obama’s Iraq Plan May Be Refined,” The Wall Street Journal’s “Washington Wire” Blog, 7/3/08)

The Washington Post: “Obama May Consider Slowing Iraq Withdrawal”
(Jonathan Weisman, “Obama May Consider Slowing Iraq Withdrawal,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)

The Washington Post: “Obama Softens On Iraq Withdrawal Timeline”
(Jonathan Weisman, “Obama Softens on Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The Washington Post’s “The Trail” Blog, 7/3/08)

The Weekly Standard: “The Mother Of All Flip-Flops”
(John McCormack, “The Mother of All Flip-Flops,” The Weekly Standard’s “The Blog,” 7/3/08)

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For more on the ever-shifting Obama on Iraq, please see my story, “Obama Talks the Talk, But Where’s the Walk?

Footnote: Mr. Obama’s real views on Iraq are of the gravest importance because, as we all know, the huge expenditures in money and lives have affected every other government budget and forced cutbacks on programs urgently needed by American citizens.

If Mr. Obama hasn’t the REAL RESOLVE — and the in-depth knowledge of the military, veterans, and all affected government programs required to execute an intelligently-planned withdrawal — he is not of presidential timber.

Hillary Clinton is made of the stuff required for the Oval Office: Resolve, intelligence, “wonky” political knowledge, and a constant search for the best information. Compare the voting records and statements of both Sens. Clinton and Obama regarding the nomination of Gen. George Casey:

What about Obama’s voting record in the U.S. Senate on Iraq? TPM Election Central painstakingly compared every single vote on Iraq by Sens. Clinton and Obama, since Obama entered the Senate. Senators Clinton and Obama voted identically, except once: On the confirmation of “General George Casey to be Chief of Staff for the Army, held just this past February. Hillary voted against confirmation, while Obama voted to confirm.” Why did Sen. Clinton vote against Gen. Casey’s confirmation?

During his nomination hearing to be Army Chief of Staff, I questioned General Casey about recent reports, both by the Department of Defense Inspector General and press accounts, that units and personnel lacked the necessary equipment. General Casey responded that was not aware of the problems cited in these reports and actually quite surprised at the reported shortcomings. In the Inspector General report’s summary, the equipment shortages were attributed to basic management failures among military commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan. General Casey was not aware of this investigation or its recommendations that oversight must immediately improve to ensure proper distribution of equipment; as a result units and personnel are not able to perform assign missions. — From “Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Vote on Confirmation of General George W. Casey to be Army Chief of Staff,” Feb. 8, 2007

How did Sen. Obama defend his vote for Gen. Casey?

“It is a bit unseemly that General Casey is being made the scapegoat for a war that never should have been fought and for a failed strategy dictated by the civilian leadership in the White House. The President, Vice President and other civilian officials set forth an unworkable strategy with inadequate resources and did not listen to the advice of generals on the ground. They are the ones ultimately responsible for the current situation in Iraq. I hope General Casey will get more support for his new mission, which is so important to the country. I want to see General Casey use his experience in Iraq to ensure that the civilian leadership in Washington understands the challenges faced and resources needed by today’s Army.”

That’s it. That’s the entire press release. Not a word about Gen. Casey’s failure to know about the crisis in equipment shortages or the “basic management failures” during Gen. Casey’s own time in Iraq or the Inspector General’s shocking report.

While I fully sympathize with the attraction to Obama based on a single speech in 2002, it is not enough. A more thorough investigation and dissection of Obama’s wildly varying statements on Iraq are required by his followers.

  • anonymous

    Waffles is in trouble again. Great job Susan!

    • oh no no no bama

      As long as Rezko’s Iraq deal was on track, Obama was for the war. When Rezko’s deal fell through, Obama changed his mind. Again. Strange.

      Obama, in his own words, in 2004:

      “No, no, I’ve never said that troops should be withdrawn.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFrFIFizkU

  • Athy

    Thank you again Susan…Well done.

    • TeaMug

      Excellent work..keep fighting for the truth.

  • Hank

    What size of flip flops does he use. Like Britney Spears says, OOPS I DID IT AGAIN!!

  • anonymous

    Obama’s Response to FISA Backlash, Creates More Backlash

    The FISA backlash from his own supporters became too loud for Obama to ignore. The Senator Obama – Please Vote NO on Telecom Immunity – Get FISA Right group on my.barackobama.com has over 16,000 members, making it the largest group on the site. Senator Obama’s response is long and filled with excuses.

    This was also on that site:

    Obama Flip-Flop Express Road-Kill Update

    Who’s next under the bus?
    1. Rep. Alice Palmer, 12/18/95
    2. Bill Clinton, 6/15/07
    3. New Hampshire Voters, 1/10/08
    4. Hillary Rodham Clinton, 1/12/08
    5. Black superdelegates, 2/15/08
    6. Louis Farrakhan, 2/26/08
    7. Austan Goolsbee, 3/3/08
    8. Samantha Power, 3/8/08
    9. Geraldine Ferraro, 3/11/08
    10. His grandmother, 3/18/08
    11. Michigan voters , 3/19/08
    12. Typical white persons, 3/20/08
    13. Asian supporters, 4/7/08
    14. Clingy, bitter Pennsylvanians , 4/11/08
    15. Rev. Wright , 4/29/08
    16. West Virginia voters , 5/9/08
    17. Kentucky voters , 5/16/08
    18. Father Pfleger , 5/29/08
    19. Democracy , 5/31/08
    20. His church , 6/1/08
    21. Roy LaVerne Brooks, 6/3/08 22. Tony Rezko , 6/3/08
    23. Bill Ayers , 6/9/2008
    24. Jim Johnson , 6/11/08
    25. Black fathers, 6/13/08
    26. Muslim women, 6/18/08
    27. Campaign-finance reform, 6/19/08
    28. Liberal blogosphere, 6/25/08
    19. Michael Klonsky, 6/26/08
    30. Gun control, 6/28/08
    31. Gen. Wes Clark, 6/30/08
    32. MoveOn.org, 6/30/08
    33. Welfare recipients, 7/1/08

    • fran

      Add: NAFTA restrictions, pro-choice, mental health parity, separation of church and state and of course:

      18 MILLION CLINTON SUPPORTERS!

    • mahaska

      He dragged his white gramma out from under the bus for his speech yesterday.

    • bemused

      Shouldn’t Florida be here?

  • Schock

    If it wasn’t so sad, I’d be laughing my ass off at the obamabots for being suckered by this flim-flam-flip-flop guy.

  • roseeriter

    Walking the walk is so important, but Obama and his bots don’t even listen to their own ‘talk’. It’s mind blowing on every level.

    Wake up, wake up (a song from the wizard of oz is on my mind, but I forget the munchkin words..)

  • suthrn

    all this mess just goes to show his memory is failing..at such a young age too..he is like a revolving door..wonder if he knows how to go through one.

    • mahaska

      Early onset dementia can hit in your 40′s. I saw it happen to an inlaw. 44 yrs old.

      • sowsear

        or coke head

  • anonymous

    Once Again, It’s about Associations and Judgment

    By Frank Salvato

    There has been much ado about Barack Obama’s associations and the judgment used in maintaining and entering into those associations. Obama’s associations with Jeremiah Wright, Williams Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, the Progressive-Left activist group ACORN and his ideological association with Saul Alinsky are all perfect examples of his judgment, his willingness to associate with radical and troubled individuals and organizations. Is it fair to judge Barack Obama by his associations and the judgment used in acquiring and maintaining those associations? Sorry Mr. Colmes, all is fair in love and war…and politics.

  • http://none Peg

    AND HE HIT HER OVER THE HEAD with his
    I-will-get-our-troops-out, I’m-the-peace-candidate crappola.

    The Obama kids don’t understand the difference between moving to the center in the general election, and LYING TO THE VOTERS during the primaries.

    I say, let’s welcome disaffected Obama-ites to join us in supporting Senator Clinton’s nomination.

    • Dawnelle

      if you meet any

      let us know and send them here

      (I’d lovvvvvvvvvvvve to hear their story (excuse) how they stayed sooooooo long)

    • alibe4hillary

      Lets face it. Obama is just a liar. He has done it all his life. His so called autobiography is a panoply of lies. His Dreams from his father was just that, dreams based on hopey dopey. And the Il senate was all based on PR, Bull and lies. And his campaign to steal the primary was based on lies, intimidation, corruption, bribery and smoke and mirrors. His move to the center is just another way of telling everyone that he is just like Bush. All hat, no cattle. He can and will do anything he damn well pleases. Just the fact that he and the DNC stole those 4 votes in Michigan was a typical F*** You moment with his one finger salute scratching his nose along with the shoulder and shoe brush off. Mr. petulant frat boy with an ego the size of Montana and a brain the size of my fingernail and courage the size of his humility.

  • anonymous

    Waffles is waffling on his previous waffling:

    Obama: Response to Iraq remarks overblown

    Earlier in the day as he flew from Montana to Missouri, Obama told reporters he was surprised at how the media has “finely calibrated” his recent words on Iraq, and reaffirmed his commitment to ending the war if elected.

    “I was a little puzzled by the frenzy that I set off by what I thought was a pretty innocuous statement,” he said. “I am absolutely committed to ending the war.”

    On Thursday in North Dakota, Obama said that “I’ll … continue to refine my policy” on Iraq after an upcoming trip there. With a promise to end the war the central premise of his candidacy, the Obama campaign has struggled over the past two days to push back against Republicans and others who say his recent statement could be a softening or change in policy.

    Obama has always said his promise to end the war would require consultations with military commanders and, possibly, flexibility.

    “The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal, those are things that are all based on facts and conditions,” he said. “I am not somebody — unlike George Bush — who is willing to ignore facts on the basis of my preconceived notions.”

    • Dawnelle

      see, see! It’s just like George W.

      I no longer believe anything he says and I can’t stand to watch his arrogant smug face any longer.

      It’s exactly my physical reaction to Barry! To Rush, To Cheney, To Lynne Cheney, To Malkin (I know some of you like her), To everything MSNBO except Pat B. To MOST things CNN.

      It’s sad. The TV rarely goes on any longer.

      • anonymous

        It’s sad. The TV rarely goes on any longer.

        Same here with the “news” shows.

    • fran

      “The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal, those are things that are all based on facts and conditions,” he said.

      Correction: THAT was Hillary’s consistent position, Mr. Superior Judgment.

      Still stealing from her…

    • Teakwood

      preconceived notions

      That is all BO is.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    “do-over” press conference…

    ah hah ahah ahh

    doesn’t look very presidential… even with his pretend presidential seal…

    what an idiot…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    the attraction to Obama based on a single speech in 2002,

    Problem is that there is no recording of this supposed speech, and all we have as proof is the word of a few SDS’s (some say 1000 were there, some say only 350 were at the rally).

    So last year Axerod and Obama recreated the speech, and people are to trust this recreation, from astroturf king Axelrod and pathological liar Obama, sure, after Obama recalls all his books to correct all the blatant lies in them!

    Maybe Miclle Obama was speaking the truth about finally being proud of her country, because she finally discovered that she isn’t the only American to have been sucked into believing Barack’s continual lies

    • fran

      It’s all about marketing: my brother repeated to me insistently last week that OBAMA VOTED AGAINST THE WAR!

      That was the illusion they sold, and Americans bought it. The “fairy tale” Bill was warning about, and they tried to shut him up by screaming “RACIST!”

      Someone please explain to me, because I’ve never understood it: “How does a fabrication of his war record = racism?”

      Oh, I guess the way the charge of “inexperience” = racism (thank you Gov. Sebelius).

      • Northwest rain

        The Obamabots really do believe that he “voted against the war” — I’ve had so many of the creeps tell me that.

        And we know that is a lie — a flat out lie.

        How do we know Obama is lying? His lips are moving.

        I do believe that bushie waited before he started lying to the extend that Obama is lying BEFORE he is even the nominee — right now Obama is on the presumptive whatever.

        • Seattle Moss

          Funny NW
          I gave the same speech back in 2002.
          That doesn’t mean I’m running for president.
          Both Dean and Obama gave great speeches but didn’t have to face a vote which could have labeled them unpatriotic.
          People forget that we had been attacked just a year previously.
          Jim Baghdad McDermott our great congress man from Seattle voted against Afganistan and Iraq. What a sorry unpatriotic SOB he is.

      • http://pumaparty.com//hillarysmygirl08 Hillaryormccain08

        thats my problem with the brother he is to stupid to know what is racist and what is not. In fact it was that right there–Obama calling Bill a racist that made me decide right there and then that I am not voting for someone like that. Its not racist its disagreeing with a black man= disagreeing with a black man. Oh and Obamabots do not try to give me no crap I am an African American so therefore if you disagree with me you must be racist.

    • beebop

      God. If only I could “recreate” my first marriage and say “heck no ….”

      • mahaska

        Can I get a do-over of my finals?

      • StrawberrybitesBarky

        Hahahaahah. Let me guess, you were young and he had a nice butt.

        • beebop

          No, sadly I was almost 30 and my body was saying stupid things about having babies ….. ;)

          • StrawberrybitesBarky

            DAMN YOU OVARIES!!!!

    • Berkeley

      In the IT industry, that is called vaporware.

  • Ivory Bill Woodpecker

    Slightly off-topic: I suspect that the next president will find himself in a predicament like Jimmy Carter did.

    I don’t think Carter was a bad president. I think that in the late ’70s, this country had so many bills, literal and metaphorical, coming due that those would have been bad years no matter who was president. I think if Reagan had been nominated and elected in 1976, he would have been a one-term prez just like Carter in the real world. Nobody could have come out of those four years looking good.

    Likewise, I think the next four years are going to be hellacious for this country, and whatever poor sucker is president will serve only one term. Hence, the best thing for the Democrats would be to lose the White House this time, and retake it in 2012.

  • Schock

    Waffles. I like that one, anon.

    Anyone read through Waffle’s site when he tried to explain himself about FISA? Many obamabots knelt down and kissed his feet, chanting what a great man he was and offered up their sacrificial donations. Then again, we all know many of those bots are paid to worship him on his site. Other bots seemed to be waking up.

    • Dawnelle

      Thank GOD

      This means I can take another break.

      BBL

      Peace

      PUMA POWER!!

      Unity in NO Unity at all!

      Better than being Consistent in our In-consistencies!

  • alibe4hillary

    And just what PROOF is there that Barrack Obama actually gave that 2002 antiwar speech? How do we know that Obama didn’t give a speech in 2003 before a small group that was a pro war speech? The only thing we do know about Obama is his propensity to give speeches and to change positions. Since the 2002 speech was never taped I would not be surprised if he gave a pro war speech near the same time. His handlers probably had him give two speeches to cover their bets. He does have a way with words. “I am opposed to this war, but on the other hand we must stand strong against the terrorists and do what it takes to defeat the enemies of this country”!!! This is how Obama operates. He then can say he made any statement he needs to have made to mollify his “public”.

  • Politicus Finch

    October 2, 2002. 1000 people in Federal Plaza in Chicago. A speech given. No transcript. No reporting of said speech in the press. No audio. No video. Larry, why not come out and say what we are all thinking: WAS THE SPEECH EVEN GIVEN? I mean, “a” speech was given, but was “the” speech given? I would not put it past this man at all to completely fabricate the words of that speech for later political profit, just as he completely fabricated many of the details in his so-called autobiographies. Just as he fabricated the details of his family stories and “uncle at Asuchwitz”, etc. etc. I find it strange and, frankly, unbelievable that no one recorded his words or did a homemade video out the supposed 1000 that were there.

    • Betty

      What blog first wrote about that speech? Who kept the story going?

  • Lee

    he just does not seem capable of processing what is so obvious here:

    of course intelligent people change their minds, duh!

    but he bludgeoned Clinton with his leftier-than-thou crap, and now he’s “changing” his mind back to HER positions.

    HELLO!

  • Joel

    It is disturbing that so many of Obama’s followers are now giving Obama and others a pass on FISA, Iraq and all their other flip-flops because, “that’s the way political life is.” Yet just one month ago they were still condemning Hillary as a political opportunist for her voting record.

    Vote McCain in November. John McCain has been completely honest in his positions.

    • Betty

      Obama and others a pass on FISA, Iraq and all their other flip-flops because, “that’s the way political life is.”

      NO, the people saying this are the paid Obama bloggers. There are and always have been way more of them then we think. Right from the earliest days.

  • Elizabeth Reilly

    There is a noted distinction between Obama and Clinton: he is essentially concerned about how a thing looks, while Hillary wants to know that it works!
    One is a doer while the other postures for the cameras. Hillary has proved it over and over, while Obama has shown us nothing. That ‘community organizer thing never was much to strut about in the first place, and after reading and learning how little the lives of his constituents were changed, he’d be better served if he stopped crowing about it. People have listened, have learned and are just now beginning to realize that they’ve been hornswaggled!

    • Ferdberfle

      Amen. Oblahablah is format over content and style over substance. He is an empty suit monumentally unqualified to be president.

  • http://noquarters foxyladi14

    and we thought kerry was a flipper
    he was amateur compared to back track
    he is truly the professional
    flip flopper

  • USSR

    Nobody has the education and intellectual capacity Barack Obama possesses. So stop questioning him.

    • sonia

      jedi effect ?

      $7/hr –good job

      • mahaska

        Should be getting minimum wage.

    • fran

      LOL! NOBODY????? There are thousands of people that have graduated from Harvard Law nimwit. Bill Clinton, a Yale Law Graduate (just as prestigious FYI) was ALSO a Rhodes Scholar.

      “Stop questioning him?” Are you on drugs? Do you actually have a mind or did you get an Obotolotomy?

      You would have made a great Hitler youth. “DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY…”

      • USSR

        Nothing can have value without being an object of utility.
        Karl Marx

        • Teakwood

          USSR;I guess that leaves you out.

          Go tear down your wall.

        • mahaska

          Then you are completely useless.

        • Ferdberfle

          I gues that means you’re worthless.

    • tampagurl

      Nobody has the education and intellectual capacity Barack Obama possesses. So stop questioning him.

      Wahahahahahahahahahahahahah

      • Northwest rain

        tampagurl — do these people really believe this crap. “intellectual capacity”?

        No body else has gone to college?

        What a load of crap!

        Thanks for catching this cult speak from an Obamabutt thug and replaying it.

        Damn these Obamabutt thugs are as dumb as rocks.

    • beebop

      THANK GOD! One deluded unqualified junior Senator is enough!

    • mahaska

      I bought a melon today. It seems pretty close.

    • Randall Allen

      PUUULEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hussein is a stoned, lying idiot!

    • drkate

      what intellectual capacity? he can’t even talk without a teleprompter, and he certainly has not studied the issue.

      My guess is that he was always a plagerizer–even at Harvard.

      obama is about deception, not intelligence. he is deeply emotionally troubled, can’t handle women or conflict. hiding behind his skin color. playing victim.

      he will change is position on iraq. by the end of the summer he will be no different than McCain.

      no, the guy is too smart for his own britches and is not fooling me at all.

      Hillary or McCain, ’08.

      Bambi needs to step down.

    • Teakwood

      Nobody has the education and intellectual capacity Barack Obama possesses

      Ain’t that the truth! Except maybe a sea anemia

    • Hope Floats

      Snark.

  • vonay

    It’s pathetic that people think Obama voted against the war.
    One of my kids thinks that.
    Nothing I say seems to make a difference. It’s like they are hypnotized!

    OMG they’ve been bamboozled!!!

  • http://thevote.abc13.com tomabrahams

    do you know the name of the first president born west of the mississippi?

    see if you can figure out the presidential trivia…

    http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/wed-like-to-tha.html

    • tampagurl

      I think it was James Madison.

    • candymarl

      It was Herbert Hoover. Do I get a T-shirt or what?

  • fred

    Angry at Their Puppet’s Flip-Flops: Daily Kos, MoveOn.org
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuLfCYa_A

  • anonymous

    More questions about Obama’s townhouse Sale Contract (Updated 3x)

    On July 2, 2008, RBO discussed some curious things found in Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)’s 2005 townhouse Sale Contract.

    After RBO reviewed all 94 pages of the mortgage documents for the Obamas’ June 15, 2005, purchase of their Hyde Park townhouse, a few more things stood out.

    Diamond Points: Whither the Teachers’ Unions? The Obama/Ayers Link

    All of a sudden, the American Federation of Teachers seems to have decided it is in their best interest to rise to the defense of Obama and his education advisor Linda Darling-Hammond. In particular, they do not want anyone looking too closely at the long-standing relationship between Bill Ayers and their preferred presidential candidate, Senator Obama.

    Well, not really all of a sudden, it’s just a few days after the AFL-CIO decided to throw in the towel and endorse Obama over Clinton now that Clinton has put her campaign on ice. And just a few days before Obama is scheduled to appear before the national conventions of both of the major teachers’ unions. The AFT has recommended its convention meeting next week in Chicago endorse Obama, as has the National Education Association, before which Obama speaks July 5.

  • YoNoForObama

    No, actually the McCain campaign is not waiting until after the convention. I read an article day before yesterday about McCain hiring a new campaign manager and they are going to start punching back at Obama right away. The article said after the 4th of July weekend.

    Can’t wait! Pass the popcorn.

    • mahaska

      Read the other day some McCain people went to Kenya.

    • beebop

      Extra butter?

      • tish

        well weve always guessed that new york times was a communist rag, now we have proof, they have no problem giving out cia agents…and national security information..why in the world would anyone buy a rag that doesnt have a problem selling america out? and if they are so worried about protecting us, why havent they told the truth about obama? what about larry sinclair? what about..the slum landlord deals .?? could it be because soros dont want that out…yet

  • Will Smith

    http://www.antiobama.net/2008/07/an-obama-suppor.html

    AN OBAMA SUPPORTER EXPLAINS IT ALL TO US.
    Since so much of what Barack Obama has had to say has sounded like nonsense and snake oil to so many people and since many people consider him to be an underhanded and dishonest politician that cant be trusted , and given that he has recently made news by reversing himself and breaking his pledge on public financing, embracing the anti-civil liberties telecom immunity bill and making statements about Jerusalem that has angered both sides, I decided the best way to find out what it was about Obama that attracted his supporters was to ask one.

    • mahaska

      He’s like a mixture of Elmer Gantry and the Music Man.

  • Athy

    Susan,
    Thank you again for all your hard work.
    Here is an interesting and very disturbing lecture:

    Jeremy Scahill speaking in Cleveland about Blackwater, Iraq, John McCain, and Barack Obama.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ylZvSIawE

  • ssmith

    wonderful post susan!!

    watch for the next flip-flop… on off-shore drilling..

    I give it another week or so..

    “I’ve always said ….blah blah blah.. “

  • NY still loves Hillary but bites Barky

    Larry & Susan,

    This lowlife is not only threatening me, but they are threatening other people using my screen name. If you want me to help you prosecute, I will be more than happy to do so. You have my e-mail address – please contact me and I will be thrilled to press charges!

  • candymarl

    It’s all good. Do not fret real posters. We’re hurting Obama. Otherwise what would be the need for the name stealing, racial epithets, and threats to make posters look bad?

    Keep up the good work.

    • mahaska

      They steal the names, write something filthy and then take them to other places to “prove” we are are evil.

  • NY still loves Hillary but thinks Barack Obama is the scum of the earth

    Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep up in Iraq for 100 years!

    How’s that for staying on topic, Nazi?

    • bambi’s brother

      John would be in office four years, and Barack a max of eight. both claim they’ll leave when it’s stable enough, and that’ll be never. Only Hillary said we’d leave whatever the facts on the ground may be, because the Iraqi appointed government won’t do any unifying while we’re paying them, and there will be no end as long as we’re there, there may be an increase in violence when we leave, but it’ll come to an end.

  • NY still loves Hillary but thinks Barack Obama is the scum of the earth

    So sorry – that should be:

    Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years! Barack Obama wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years!

    How’s that for staying on topic, Nazi?

  • Tom Jeff

    What a collection of sick puppies this site has become!

    • mahaska

      I know and I wish you assholes would go away. I hear kos is up and running.

      • NY still loves Hillary

        Wanted to thank you for jumping to the defense when the Obamascum was threatening us. Guess Susan really hit a nerve with this post…

    • tampagurl

      Tom Jeff, it’s probably you pulling this shit acting like an asshole!!!!

      • Tom Jeff

        It isn`t. You are sick, fella.

        • tampagurl

          Sick…is that the only word you know? How old are you, 5?

        • drkate

          here is mutt and jeff again.

          I told him that his dick was going to shrink for every comment he makes here. now he should be looking at a scar on his ass.

          can’t get it up anymore, can you?

          impotent, low information, idiotic, shameless troll.

    • NY still loves Hillary

      Like you aren’t the scum doing it. Like we can’t tell it’s the same IP. I’m going off line for a while folks – need to talk to some people. Ignore anything that appears to be coming from me for the next few hours. But please take screen shots!

    • beebop

      Only when you’re here.

    • YoNoForObama

      You are the only sick one here. Get out of here you pig! We’re sick of your kind.

  • DeaninMI

    I’m going to take this time to thank the idiots stealing identities and posting their lies.

    It only steels my resolve. Thank you.

    NOBAMA.
    NOWAY.
    NOHOW.

    KMA, Obamathugs.

    BTW, You should be very careful. What you are doing is NOT legal in every jurisdiction.

    • NY still loves Hillary

      Personally I went out and had dinner and a glass of wine, and I feel a whole lot better knowing that we got to them that badly.

      Not that there was much of a chance I’d consider voting for Obama before, but if these people really think that threats are going to stop us or change our minds, they’ve got another think coming.

      It is now my mission in life not only to defeat Obama, but to make sure every supporter of his I meet knows that his paid ‘bots are threatening people and stealing screen identities, and I don’t hear him trying to stop it. As I said in one of the deleted posts – no wonder he reversed himself on FISA; he wants to use the info the silence the opposition.

      • StrawberrybitesBarky

        BOINGO! Barky won’t give up one ounce of power Bush has grabbed. He hasn’t even mentioned all those signing statements has he? If you think he’s evil now, just wait til he becomes president and tries to stay in power.

        • Hope Floats

          That’s why he absolutely can’t get into office. It is imperative that John McCain wins this election.

  • jbjd

    I checked the links. It’s true. Senator Clinton voted against the confirmation of General Casey as Army Chief of Staff because when she asked, he was not up to speed that the Inspector General of the Department of Defense had investigated press reports of equipment shortages facing troops in Iraq; and, despite having been in Iraq, seemed surprised at the findings of these reports. Senator Obama voted to confirm General Casey, saying this. “General Casey is being made the scapegoat for a war that never should have been fought… I hope General Casey will get more support for his new mission, which is so important to the country…” In other words, one of them, despite warning against going into Iraq without adequate support and preparation in the first place, now wants to protect the lives of soldiers while they are there; and the other wants to… wants to… .

  • fred

    Barack Obama birth certificate Now petition

    We the undersigned ask you to join us in demanding that Barack Obama show an official copy of his birth certificate to a reputable news outlet. It is a small request that should be welcomed by a politician looking to bring change to Washington.
    http://www.birthcertificatenow.com/

  • PKJayne

    Gawd I love a good bonfire. That is exactly what is happening to Barry. Going up in flames!

    See you in Denver!

  • typical.white.person
  • Objective analysis

    Obama is clueless with the English language.

    Webster dictionary defines “refine” as follows:

    transitive verb
    1 : to free (as metal, sugar, or oil) from impurities or unwanted material
    2 : to free from moral imperfection : elevate
    3 : to improve or perfect by pruning or polishing <refine a poetic style>
    4 : to reduce in vigor or intensity
    5 : to free from what is coarse, vulgar, or uncouth
    intransitive verb
    1 : to become pure or perfected
    2 : to make improvement by introducing subtleties or distinctions

    Now under either definition, Obama is doing something different from the original stance.

    Now, this nut, expects us to believe the media is overreacting to his views:

    Obama: Response to Iraq Remarks Overblown
    Saturday, July 5, 2008 3:30 PM

    ST. LOUIS — Barack Obama said Saturday that he was surprised at how the media has “finely calibrated” his recent words on Iraq, and denied that he intends to anything but end the war if he is elected.

    “I was a little puzzled by the frenzy that I set off by what I thought was a pretty innocuous statement,” the expected Democratic presidential nominee told reporters flying with him to Missouri from Montana. “I am absolutely committed to ending the war.”

    On Thursday in North Dakota, Obama said that “I’ll … continue to refine my policy” on Iraq after an upcoming trip there. With a promise to end the war the central premise of his candidacy, the Obama campaign has struggled over the past two days to push back against Republicans and others who say his recent statement could be a softening.

    In two news conferences on Thursday, Obama said any refinement of his position on Iraq wouldn’t be related to his promise to remove combat forces within 16 months of taking office, but rather to the number of troops needed to train Iraqis and fight al-Qaida. But he also acknowledged that the 16-month timeline could indeed slip if removing troops risked their safety or Iraqi stability.

    Okay he must think newsreporters and the American people are STUPID and don’t know the english language.

    We are not and we, as americans, don’t need to put into office a guy who can’t understand what the english langugage is.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Robbedvoter

    Thanks for the most revealing media coverage – friendliest to BO: NYT and WSJ!
    Anyway, only Americans were “shocked” by the double talk, The ones that didn’t read what he told
    the PM of Iraq some months ago
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/0bama-mccain-identical-on-war-iraqi-prime-minister/

  • OxyCon

    I commented at many places towards the end of 2007 that as soon as the media got rid of Hillary Clinton, they’d turn their attacks on Obama and rip him to shreds.
    After the way the primary went down, I will not be lifting one finger to defend him. I had defended him in the past, but I can’t be bothered with him any longer. Let Josh Marshall, Keith Olbermann, et al., go crazy defending him.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    Excellent work by you, Susan, and by the GOP.

    This is your sacred cow, DNC and Obamabots: A fruadulent, punk chump who is caught in the headlights like a deer.

    The Casey charade is the final blow.

    Superdelegates: Act now, or forever have this abomination on your hands and be primaried like Kerry in Massachusetts. You now have the evidence that this guy is a total sham and huckster, and he can’t even pretend with any degree of competence.

    End this farce now. The popular vote winner, and legitimacy, awaits the party you have failed to overtake with your junta’s coup.

  • http://pumaparty.com//hillarysmygirl08 Hillaryormccain08

    yes very good article. I also don’t think he is going to make it to the convention. I think its going to have a surprise ending.

  • Sassy

    The Republicans are luke-warm on McCain – many Democrats (us) despise “O” – Does anyone want the White House in November? With the mess this country is in right now, both partys may want to “hand-off”!

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  • bambi’s brother

    he hasn’t changed, he’s been unclear, full of contradictions, and short-term pandering from the beginning, but, when the media needed to defeat Hillary they didn’t care. Now that there isn’t so much difference between Barack and McCain and there is no uppity girl being the smartest and making guys feel worried, they can notice Barack’s a fraud. I have no idea what he’d do as president. I fear he’ll be scarier than John, he may need to prove that he’s tough enough to bomb Iran?

  • Masha Blanco

    It’s so ironic that Obama is now flip-flopping all over the place trying to “refine” his position on Irak, the key issue that fueled his campaign and his only argument to support the quality of his “judgment”.

    Obama doesn’t know what he’s talking about on Irak. It speaks volumes that he had to redo his press conference after his “puppeteers” told him he’d messed up. Are Americans willing to put “awsome responsibility” on the shoulders of this vacillating rookie? How can we trust his judgment if we only have his words and those don’t seem to mean much?

    Who are the “puppeteers” who are truly calling the shots behind this candidate? Do you know? Do we know? They are the ones Americans will be electing to make the decisions when they vote for Obama. And they all scare me to death!

  • anonymous

    Best tragic-comedy.

  • Dawnelle

    Pahahha (I’m on the floor 4 real)

    HAAahahaha! And not saying what kind of comedy because they’d call me a “racist” and it’s only been what?

    10 minutes Uppity? Since they did that?

  • Dawnelle

    Oui! Mon Ami(e) :-]

  • anonymous

    McCain Campaign stop pussy footing aroiund.

    They are waiting until after the convention to really go after him.

  • methinks

    Yes, LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

  • tampagurl

    OMG, that’s soooooo funny Jeremiah!!!!!!!!

  • vonay

    LMAO……….How funny!

  • YoNoForObama

    Jeremiah, my husband and I are laughing so hard we are crying. Keep up the great posts!

  • Katmoon

    ROFL, Wonderful!

  • Teakwood

    All the news that’s fit to drink!!

    Funny Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright !!

  • anonymous

    Obama is the one Democrat who could lose against the one Republican who can win. I hope Hillary gets the nomination otherwise we have 4-8 years of McCain. McCain would be better than Obama but not my first choice. I think most PUMAs would agree with me.

  • Northwest rain

    “BevAnn” you are a slug — a low life form.

    If there is a hell — I hope that you go to hell and rot.

    I consider this a death threat against Susan and Larry.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    I’m confused, BevAnn. Are we supposed to be upset that Susan’s son in-law thinks Bush is an idiot? This couldn’t possibly be an attempt to divert our attention from Obama’s recent Class A cluster f*ck, could it?

    This story is friggin Christmas in July!!!

    Get a life, troll. Unless of course you care to explain why anyone would follow this pompous, lyung sack for even a second after he decided to stay in Iraq for a few more years!

  • mahaska

    You filthy pig. I am reporting this to the PA and Seattle police.

  • beebop

    Bev — you farce of an excuse of a human — you will notice that Susan took down the posts by the possuers but left your garbage standing. She has more integrity that you can hope to ever have. We have respect for her words and deeds and find you a dispicable piece of crap for outing someone on the internet — but then, following any kind of conventins like protecting the identity of posters is something that no Obamabrat can undertand, right?

  • tampagurl

    OH… a do over primary *sigh* if only :(

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Wait, now I’m more confused. Is her daughter married or a “lesbian whore”? What’s your source on that, Larry Sinclair?

    No gay bashing here, and no threats, either.

    You can run but you can’t hide!

    Who’s hiding? Larry – can you please publish this worthless piece of crap’s IP so we can show her a few things? Pleeeeze??!!

    But seriously – how can you say NQ is the problem when Susan just cited, oh I don’t know, about 2 dozen or so media sources saying your candidate is a lying scum that wants to murder more Americans in Iraq?

  • Northwest rain

    CALLING ALL Americans (that leaves out BevAnn and her commie buddies) –

    BE sure to keep a screen shot of this threat — this is the kind of America that Obama offers if elected.

    We must make sure that either Clinton or McCain is elected in November.

    Obama belongs in jail — and so do his terrorist supporters.

    THIS IS domestic terrorism — Obama style.

  • mahaska

    The street runs both ways bitch

  • mahaska

    We are going out everyone of you dirty folks. Your names and addresses, SSN, your employer etc… Just keep on posting NorthWest Rain and we’ll eventually catch up with you.

    This is a direct threat. Ever heard the term Cybercrime? Well get used to it. you are commiting it.

  • beebop

    When it isn’t false, who the hell else is looking into the CRAP that comes out of the Ochangealot campaign?

    Sorry that you don’t care about the lies and deceit. Happy that you are content to be used. Not the case here. You give women a bad name. BEV.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    BevAnn is the same as Michelle Mankin. Two peas in pod. Remember Karma is a bitch and I’m positive someone out there is going to find you and publish your personal info and I hope to God no one hunts you down and shoots you. If anything happens to Susan you will live with it for the rest of your miserable life.

  • don tufts

    lady come on he is a racist marxist slug and i am a dem.anyone who would associate with frank marshall davis and call him a mentor in his own words.have a long standing relationship with ayers,turn his back on his own constituants in favor of not offending rezko[you know no heat for 34 days for 33 units in january]and then there is wright and his unamerican racist rants of no class and obama sits and listens for 20 years.how about his association with acorn or the new left party in chicago there a nice little bunch of socialist/marxist so go as we would say in the sevice FOAD.

  • Steven Mather

    Dear BevAnn,

    Senator Obama is not the nominee, yet. You’ll have to hold it in a little longer.

    It is a lie to claim:

    “noquarterusa.net is Larry C. Johnson’s hate blog that functions as a clearing house and sometimes originator of false smears, libel and racist attacks against Barack Obama — Democratic Party Presidential Nominee.”

    1. If libel occurred, charges would have followed. Show us the libel. In fact, your claim, because it is false, is libellous.

    2. This site is not a hate blog, though your homophobic, sexist attack on Susan’s “dirty whore lesbian daughter” does appear hateful. That part of your post should be linked throughout the blogosphere. You stand as evidence that the people who post in the blogosphere, whether here or on the Daily Kos or elsewhere, can say despicable things. That hateful posters, such as you, post on these sites does not make them hate sites.

    Further, please provide a list of the “false” smears that Larry and Susan created. We appreciate that your candidate will continue providing the true smear fodder.

    Racism has been prevalent in the campaign, notably from the Obama camp. Racist commentary sometimes appears here, as it does elsewhere. Like with your hateful comment, it does not make this site a racist site. Further, some of it is the work of people like you doing black ops, who seek to discredit the free expression of those who do not bleet your mantra.

    Why do you think there is something wrong with conjoining blogging with commerce? I like the fact that I have a PUMA t-shirt on the way. I intend to buy more anti-Obama merchandise. Obama sells merchandise. Non-issue.

    Finally, Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot relied on people like you to make their dreams come real. Heck, if the Obama thing does not work out you’ll be able to claim that you were only following orders.

    Yours,
    Steven

  • Ferdberfle

    You are a brownshirt.

  • AF catfish

    You are not Uppity. You are an impersonator.

  • USSR

    You don’t like hip-hop because it brought change. You don’t like Hope and Change. Barack will fix the morals of America and it’s people.

  • candymarl

    MLK scumbag? You might want to rephrase that. MLK was always about the type of person you are and not the color of their skin.

    This doesn’t sound like UppityWoman. Is that you?

  • fran

    Uppity: I hear your frustration, really I do. But we can’t become generalists like they are. There were some very strong African American supporters of Hillary: Nutter, Jackson Lee, Tubbs Jones. Don’t blame “all blacks.” Even many people who voted for Obama said they were torn, and love Hillary. We cannot imbibe their bigotry and rage. Obama the Uniter: what a joke. He has fueled this animosity by using race for his own advantage.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    I consider it a death threat against every No Quarter poster. “She” is threatening to release peoples’ SSNs and personal information so we can be hunted down. No wonder Obama flipped on FISA – he wants to use it to destroy his opposition.

    Now are you starting to believe the Hitler comparisons?

  • fran

    “fix the morals of America?” Again I have to ask: WHAT are you smoking? Do you think he is GOD?

    I feel sorry for you, seriously. You are going to be very disappointed. No one can “fix” someone else’s “morals.”

  • candymarl

    It’s not Obama’s job to fix our morals. It’s his job to be our secular political leader. What is he God, Jesus, Mohamed, or Buddha? That kind of worship and thinking is dangerous. Jesus himself admonished us to not put our faith in princes.

    Good grief you people are scary.

  • mahaska

    To be like his morals. Oh please. Between Scarlett and Larry S. he has no room to talk morals.

  • beebop

    We have enough problems in the large cities where foreclosed homes are burning … please don’t bring us Chicago style “public housing” that has been repaired courtesy of federal financing that ends up in the pockets of the likes of Rezko.

  • rjj

    USSR is yanking chain. Good job, USSR.

  • tampagurl

    candymarl, I think USSR is pretending to be UppityWoman.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Namejackers again. Death threats and name jackers. What has this troll world come to?

    They are trying to make us lose it because they can’t combat the Iraq reversal!

  • beebop

    No. The blue link takes you to some crazy woman …

  • mahaska

    of course that’s why he wants to spy on everybody who knows what he really is. They are palnning to overthrow the government. It’s called Treason.

  • Northwest rain

    Yes what this “BevAnn” is doing is a death threat against anyone who posts on NQ — they want to control everything — no one is allowed to question the reincarnation of HITLER.

  • tampagurl

    I really don’t believe Uppity said that, mostly because it’s been white punks calling us racists instead or AA’s

  • hillarysmygirl

    I don’t think that’s really Uppity.

  • mahaska

    That’s not uppity

  • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

    I’ve reported this impersonator to Susan. Hopefully these disparaging entries will be removed quickly.

    Jerk.

  • beebop

    A total fraud.

  • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

    It’s not Uppity – the web link is not hers. I reported this, hopefully it’ll be picked up soon.

  • Northwest rain

    I did not realize that the “morals” of Americans need fixing. The majority of American — 18 million at least — have excellent morals.

    Damned I’d swear that the Red Army (Obamabots) will be coming through and eliminating everyone who doesn’t read from Backtrack Obama’s little red book.

    Did Axlerod hire some new trolls? Or Perhaps these trolls are from Ayer’s classroom?

  • mahaska

    I have a suggestion. Why don’t all you basement dwellers join the military and make a difference. Too chicken?

  • mahaska

    Get a spellchecker, asshole

  • candymarl

    Come to my neighborhood and my house. I Can’t Wait. A Vet.

    PS. You’re not UppityWoman but a rather weak and vicious imitation.

    If you’re not lying, and said posters husband is a child molester that does not make the poster a child molester.

    Collective punishment is illegal under US and International Law.

    We must be really hurting Obama. You’re resorting to threats again. Only losers do that.

  • YoNoForObama

    Thank you comrade for your “informative” views on what constitutes legal behavior in your Obama world. Don’t forget when you find the enemies who are your neighbors that they will be waiting to rebuke your sick world view before they remind you that you are a wannabe Facist who will never be given play in this great country. The U.S.A. is formed on a Constitution for which you openly declare your contempt. Please read 1984 and see yourself as a “thought police person” proudly fucking up everything that is human and leading us back to a tribal mentality of burn the next hut if you don’t like what they thinking. You are a perfect Nazi wannabe. Study carefully the years before WWII and see how the German people were slowly but surely brought to a total hypnotic state of zeal. In the end they all said he was so charismatic. How could we go against the Party or more particularly the grand leader who would be avenged by his little brown shirts. We were just following his principles and his instructions. No one questioned what was his goal until he militarilized and then all they could do was fight for their survival by joining up and ratting out another group within the population who cowered in fear until they were almost annihilated. Survivors of this sort of effort say “never again should this be allowed to rise.” Look within your totally sick mind and see that the seeds have already sprouted you sick Nazi. You’re the flower of Nazi youth.

  • tampagurl

    oooooh, we’re shaking in our boots!!!!

    Wahahahahahahhaah

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Please come pay me a visit, please. And besides I sent a $50 monoploy bill to Barky with my name address and phone number with PUMA written across it. Does that sound like we’re afrid of a bunch of limp wristed college students who can’t even bench press their own body weight or change a friggin’ tire. Christ, you are a sad excuse for a human being. BOOGA BOOGA!

  • mahaska

    Mental illness is treatable now. I suggest you go soon to a doctor near your cave.

  • jwrjr

    Looks like the “UppityWoman” impersonator again.

  • Seattle Moss

    I know Uppity woman. I have read many posts by Uppity woman. I have visited Uppity womans blog page.
    You’re no Uppity woman!!!!

  • Seattle Moss

    I guess you’re immigrant from the former East Germany.
    Your communism isn’t going to work in this country. In fact you have it the wrong way around.
    Communist’s like you are enemies to the United States of America.
    After McCain wins you will be purged from the democrat party.
    Your files will be turned over to Homeland security.

    Time to ditch that hard drive traitor!!!

  • jocelyn

    you are a joke. no one is scared. my family, my co-workes all know exactly what I stand for. Too bad you cannot say the same for Obama–and that is what these ad hominem attacks are really about. pathetic.

  • Northwest rain

    What garbage these Obamabutt creeps are — filth.

    The real Uppity women is going to be pissed.

  • jocelyn

    sorry mahaska, my comment is not directed at you

  • NY still loves Hillary

    FBI as well?

  • jocelyn

    another stolen identity…pathetic.

  • bemused

    Hey, are you Undercover Black Man really? He’s unhappy too.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Bring it, I would love for that fat cow Bevann to show up on my doorstep. To be able to snap someone’s neck and have it considered self defense…yup works for me.

  • jocelyn

    cyber thug steals another id. LOL–what a jackass

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Get me her IP and I’ll do my best to make sure she gets prosecuted

  • NY still loves Hillary but bites Barky

    Not me folks – n amejacker

  • mahaska

    Who is this we. troll? Got a rat in your pocket?

  • NY still loves Hillary but bites Barky

    You bet it is!

  • mahaska

    Yeah, you’re right. give it up trolls. We all know the ways our people sound and write.

  • jocelyn

    oh look, now i have been stolen. kinda funny,esp. since i am a black woman. LOL.

  • mahaska

    Get a spellchecker, fake jocelyn

  • jocelyn

    yawn…not me.

  • NY still loves Hillary but thinks Barack Obama is the scum of the earth

    Still name jacking, lowlife.

  • mahaska

    Did not take it that way, thanx

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Hahahahhahhahh, so much for the files and info they collected on us…..Hahhahahahahahahah! Dumbshits.

  • tampagurl

    WAhahahahahahaha poor obamabots don’t have a brain or identity of their own

  • tampagurl

    I’m with you Strawberry!!!! I’d like to see them come to my house because I still cling to my guns and I’m not afraid to use them. M F-ing punk bastards!!!!

  • candymarl

    No one here is suggesting whom your daughter should or shouldn’t date.

    Smell the desperation.

  • Steven Mather

    My immediate family is blessed with racially diverse relationships. We judge people by the content of their character.

  • mahaska

    Chicagoans never call Chicago chitown. faker.

  • NY still loves Hillary

    Keep at it, but now I am going to prosecute.

  • mahaska

    Hillary became more beautiful and stronger as the campaign went on. Strong women rule!

  • DeaninMI

    Gah! I’m always late to the party!

    Hillary’s our gal!!!

    Obama sucks!
    Slink back to that Chicago cesspool!
    I’m in Michigan and we can smell you assholes from here!!!

  • DeaninMI

    Did not make above comment!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Guns? No guns make me nervous and besides, I’m a lame shot, don’t let me near anything sharp, hot or goes bang. I prefer grabbing people by the throat and smashing their heads repeatedly against stationary objects…one of the main reasons I recently took up MA, I get to hit people without being arrested. Powerlifting and bodybuilding are fun but punching people (esp. smart ass chicks half my age) and watching them roll on the floor in pain makes me happy. Yup, I was raised in Republican household.

  • Dean in Mi

    Didn’t make this comment , either!!!

  • tampagurl

    Tom you need it more than us…you go first!!!

  • Ferdberfle

    I’ll bet you’re here because HuffAndPuffPo couldn’t stand you, either. Go away, bot.

  • drkate

    yes, we know you’re sick. you show it in every comment you make.

    i love the smell of obamabutt fear in the afternoon.

    your guy is going down in flames.

    kind of sick to defend a general who is killing our troops with his incompetence, isn’t it?

    obama is a liar and knows nothing.

  • Hope Floats

    Oh, the truth. It burns! Why won’t NQ just join the MSM echo chamber on how new and hopeful BO is?

  • elise

    There is someone who reguarlly posts a profanty filled comment, at least one a day, and I have noticed some similarities. IMO it is the same person changing usernames. It didn’t matter before because this blog has given everyone the right to express an opinion even if it is just an attempt to control the conversation, but this “we already know who you are and will track you down” makes me wonder exactly who “we” are. It could be a mulitiple personality disorder, on the other hand, it could be an actual threat to publish ss numbers, which is against the law. I think it should be turned over to the FBI.

  • Hope Floats

    THE SENATE IS NOT SELMA ALABAMA!!!! LMAO, JEREMIAH!

  • http://pumaparty.com//hillarysmygirl08 Hillaryormccain08

    rofl too funny lol