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Peace Talk

By Pat Racimora on October 10, 2009 at 4:30 PM in Current Affairs

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Remember when your teachers sternly admonished, “You don’t get an A for effort?” They never, ever once said, “You do get an A+ for just talking about it.”

How very curious. No one ever won a Nobel Prize for expressing an intense urge to write a great work of literature or speaking passionately about a hankering to do cancer research.

We seem to be setting a new standard for achievement. (And I think I just fell down a rabbit hole.)

h/t to American Girl in Italy for the toon idea.

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    I was talking about world peace before this dufus was born. I want mine too.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Me, too, Martha. I served in USAREUR as a medic during the 70s to aid all those who helped preserved the standoff between the Warsaw Pact and NATO. There were untold thousands upon thousands who served over there from 1946 until the Soviet Union fell in 1991. During those 45 years, not a single shot was never fired. Had one been fired, none of us would be here now doing what we are doing.

      • Ferd Berfle

        That should read, “not a single shot was EVER fired.”

        Even.

        Exit, stage left.

  • drmilak

    why this unceasing negativity about anything related to President Obama? Don’t you see that this is not constructive at all?

    • Pat Racimora

      Hi drmilak,

      Beieve it or not I am trying to be constructive–or at least not “not constructive.” Our country is slipping steadily in many areas involving achievement. Just today I read the stats that we are no longer the leaders in clinical research, a position we had held since clinical research began. Our schools are failing in many subjects, and it is upsetting to see where we fall compared to so many other countries.

      Achievement has to start meaning something, some quantifiable, observable product. It’s critical to our survival as a nation.

      • trixta

        Getting in touch with reality is being constructive.

        • Lana

          Love it!

    • Ferd Berfle

      To save time, I’ll give you the the short answer. That One is a drag on this country from both a material and spiritual standpoint. He stands for nothing, depending on the prevailing political winds to guide his decision-making process; the only action he is known for is reading a TelePromTer, one filled with the words of a sophomoric 20-something. This POTUS is an inert mass of ego, sprinkled with a bit of Id. When he actually DOES something constructive, get back with us, quack.

      Any more questions?

      • drmilak

        Ferd, our opinions may differ but I respect your opinion and I don’t see any reason for your tone and name calling.

        • Ferd Berfle

          You came here to a blog that doesn’t adhere to the policies of That One and made a pejorative value statement about our comments, which apparently you don’t agree with.

          I would say you are the one who needs to change your tone because you are not a regular and therefore aren’t entitled to question our motives or beliefs.

          Indeed, “drmilak”, you should rethink your initial comment before questioning mine.

          • drmilak

            Ferd, I did not call you names and I can’t see why “negativity” and “not constructive” is pejorative. Anyway, I get it. My comments are not welcome here by you.

            • Ferd Berfle

              Really, Doc. You presumed an attitude with your first post and to deny it is at the same time disingenuous and insulting. I stand by my comments, especially since I am a native English speaker and more than understand the nuances of the language with which we are presently conversing. You apparently like That One–good for you; I don’t and most who comment here do not, as well. This is well known and shouldn’t come as a surprise. So if you get your feathers ruffled, that is on you and not us. There is a reason this website is called “No Quarter”.

              Just because YOU think WE’RE negative does not make it so. And since you do think we’re so “negative”, perhaps you should avail yourself of one of the many websites devoted entirely to the adoration and worship of That One. In fact, I think you might feel more at home there.

          • elizabethrc

            Well said, Ferd. Indeed, if drwhoozitz can’t see anything negative about obama (small o used on purpose), mores the pity for him.
            The reason for the negativity from us is that so far we’ve seen nothing to feel positive about concerning his actions, his presidency, his abilities, his transparency, his academic history, his choice of friends, his inability to do any real work or his respect for our Constitutional form of government. That’s just for starters.

            • Ferd Berfle

              You’re on target, elizabethrc. There is so much to be negative about that it might actually be easier to talk about those things that are positive. Here goes:

              …

              …

              …

              Nope, trying to come up with anything positive is a conversation killer as it is the null set. I guess we’re stuck with the negative, huh?

              • elizabethrc

                Ferd, That is one of the most telling posts I have seen in a long while.
                Keep it up!

    • N. Lee

      Negativity? Because I can’t stand the man. He stole the election from Hillary Clinton, aided ACORN to defraud the voting process, gave away billions of our money to bail out failing companies, he’s a narcissist, a lair and he’s a fraud. There, is that good enough reason?

      • FranSC

        N.Lee – ….”He stole the election from Hillary Clinton, aided ACORN to defraud the voting process…..”. True, but the following were much more influential in 0′s fraudulent election than ACORN:

        MoveOn.org organized the caucus fraud and packed the rallies through online social networking, spending $40 Million in the process. SEIU was the union arm of his many pronged campaign helping nominate and elect B0, spending $60 million to accomplish their goals.

        The DNC and dem party leadership that selected 0 soon after his 2004 dem nat’l conv speech, worked feverishly for several years putting a campaign in place FOR him, hiring a company to raise the additional $750 Million to buy the nomination and election. This leadership turned a deaf ear and blind eye to all the fraud that was bought to elect him.

        Let’s not forget many in the congressional black caucus and AA media people who played the race card and shamelessly race-baited the Clintons and her supporters from Iowa to Montana. The mainstream media also did millions of dollars worth of free advertising for this neophyte.

        This all landed in 0bama’s lap with no effort whatsoever from him or his Chicago team of clowns, but they still got and took the credit for this *brilliant* campaign.

        • CB

          And don’t forget that the race baiting was part of the Axelrod-campaign strategy (even Bill mentioned the memo), and A’s previous client John Edwards was not real competition since it is hard to believe A didn’t know about the rumor that the National Enquirer was attempting to photograph.

          • FranSC

            For sure, the race-baiting/card was part of Axelrod’s campaign strategy for not only B0 but also for another campaign he ran, Duval Patrick for Gov of Mass. This was reported by Geraldine Ferraro on FoxNews during the 2008 election debacle.

            Hopefully, there is a special place in hell for Axelrod, Jesse Jackson Jr, SC Rep James Clyburn, Donna Brazile, Roland Martin, Bob Herbert, Eugene Robinson, and many others who shamelessly played the race card against the Clintons of all people in the universe, their supporters, and many others, as well as causing an extremely negative effect on race relations in this country.

    • lorac

      I’m wondering what WOULD be constructive. I can see three choices when a person disagrees with a politician. We could pretend to agree with him and go against our own principles, we could just fade into the woodwork and go against our own principles, or we could stand up against what we feel is wrong (which is what we are doing).

      You don’t feel the last choice is constructive. Do you think the first two are? Is there some other possible option I’m not thinking of……?

    • FranSC

      drmilak – you are too late to this ‘party’. Just go. We could never catch you up.

  • Katmoon

    I’m sure you must be here to help us.

  • Stan Davis

    Did you see that Rush Limbaugh is going to be one of the judges at the Miss America pageant? Imagine my disgust.

    Stan Davis
    Lakewood, CO

    • Pat Racimora

      Stan my friend, are you kidding us? For real? (If so, I am down a rabbit hole.)

      • trixta

        Rush as a beauty contest judge is really too funny! But hey, BO has just won the Nobel Peace prize so I guess anything goes. Actually, Rush as beauty contest judge is more acceptable than BO as a NP winner. At least Rush has opinions and stands by them. Can’t say the same for our glorious Leader.

        • FranSC

          I have never been a Rush Limbaugh fan. But, I have to say, I agree with most of what he says about Barack 0bama. I think he has his number and then some.

          As far as being the Miss America judge, he also said on Greta that he accepted the invitation before he knew that the new Miss America would promote going green. Rush doesn’t buy into the “greening” of America or the planet and said he would not have accepted had he known that beforehand.

          I part ways with him on that because if I’m anything, I’m an environmentalist. But that doesn’t change the fact that he is on target with 0bama. Never dreamed I would be saying that. He has even talked about the caucus fraud which no one else but NQ regulars ever mentions. Credit should be given where credit is due.

      • TeakWoodKite

        A co-worker brought it up on Friday. I responded “that Pig?”. That was right after the BO award thing. I said to him, I would be the first to tip the hat to BO, if had actually DONE any act of paying it forward.

        Then my co-worker said that he was sick of both sides of isle being so corrupt. That is a distinct change on his part.

        So Rush smoking cigars and judging a bueaty contest is on par with BO as a contestant in that Pagent. Works for me!

        How’s that for a toon idea Pat? BO in that bikini?

  • drmilak

    katmoon, i am just trying to understand. that’s all.

    • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

      The DNC threw the primary election to him. He did not win it through legitimate votes to become the national candidate. He has nefarious connections to people who want to destroy our country and has even appointed some of the as “czars” answering only to him…undermining democracy. He was put in place primarily because my old party, the Dimocrats, decided because there was so much negativity toward GWB, it was time to put a minority candidate in office and his campaign was aimed at young, inexperienced emotional voters. He has no accomplishments that he can “own” from his singular efforts. Just part of a long legitimate list.

      Is that good enough, drmalik? But of course, you know all this…and live with excuses, justifications and blame. If you don’t then time to wake up.

      • http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

        I just wrote something very similar over at mediaite.com haha

        Great toon pat! looooooooove it!

        But this is it in a nutshell:

        “No one ever won a Nobel Prize for expressing an intense urge to write a great work of literature or speaking passionately about a hankering to do cancer research.”

        • Onofre’s arm

          Unfortunately Sara, the bottom line is….it’s their stupid prize, they can do whatever the Hell they want with it I suppose. It really lost all of it’s worth and significance anyway when they gave it to Yessir Yourafart, so now we can toss Obama in the same league as that mass murdering POS, that seems appropriate.

          I tried, but failed, to find my favorite cartoon regarding Arafat, the NPP, and his much too tardy death. A bewildered Arafat is in Hell pleading with Satan, “There must be some mistake, I won the Nobel Peace Prize”. Satan casually replies “Yes, that does sound like a mistake”. It was the FIRST image that entered my sleepy mind when I heard the Kafka-esque news yesterday morning.

          • Katmoon

            True, you do not get prizes for intentions, you are suppose to get them for merit, and actions. Tangible/ not imaginary.

            • Onofre’s arm

              Actually Katmoon, we DO give awards, prizes, trophys, and accolades to our very young children that participate in games where the score is not kept, all participants are equal, and they are ALL the best players in the world. It seems only logical that we would eventually extend such touchy feely sentiments to our Commander in Chief.

              I’m sure that our adversaries like Putin will be swept up in the smooshy warmth of the afterglow radiating from the Nobel hearth of peace, love, doves, and blessings from our haloed leader. Or….they can laugh their evil asses off at the mass stupidity sweeping an icreasingly vulnerable world of sheeple that is merrily prancing all the way to the slaughterhouse.

              • Katmoon

                Sigh…my kids are older, you know back when a hug from Mom, or Mom and dad watching you try, and encourage you was the best trophy you could get

            • lorac

              Well, I guess we should be realizing that this award is way overdue. So now he gets an award for doing nothing but campaigning with his “words, just words”. But he never got his award for writing no articles as the editor of the Harvard Review, he never got his award for doing nothing for his Chicago constituents who were dying in his Rezko apartments, he never got his award for doing nothing but voting “present”…. poor guy, he’s had a lot of patience.

      • MG-PUMA

        Excellent response, Martha. You are a positive contributor in a significant way to this Board.

        MG-PUMA

      • Lyn

        Well said Martha, that about covers it. Plus I don’t find it negative here, I actually come here because no matter how awful I think Obama is, I usually get to at least laugh, because of the posts or commentors here. With out NQ and a couple other places, my stress and anger levels would be terrible.

        • requiredreading

          Ditto. What I find constructive and positive about No Quarter is that its contributors cut through the bull—- that has become the “mainstream media,” suggest further reading that counters the HopeyChangey disingenuousness spewed out by the White House, and offer a network of people that I otherwise would not have who are incensed at the actions, non-actions, and stupidities of Obama, Inc. The humor in the face of utter disbelief at the undeserved adulation of The One is just icing on the cake.

    • Katmoon

      I wasn’t sure if you were serious, we get attacked on a regular basis, because of having a different opinion or outlook, so please excuse my defensiveness. I actually do think that complaining or “bitching” for a bit does help people to some extent. It at least gets out what is bothering them. No worse then a congratulatory blog. I would say we are a critical and cautious group with an eye on to what actions are being done by our government and for what reason; no more so than I was with Bush.
      I can’t speak for anyone else; only myself. I am tired and disgusted with being called racist, or unpatriotic or a teabagger or a c**t. this is what many have been subjected to for not only the last year and a half, but also throughout some of the previous 8 years. I was a Democrat, I left the party over the way the DNC behaved, other Democrats, and finally the candidate Obama. I just want to get through the next three years; without having to continually defend myself against lies..the biggest is the racist lie. It hurt, many people, who may have gone back to the party, I know I never will. I don’t see any difference in bad politics, because that is all I see driving policy, bad politics doesn’t distinguish which party it comes from, it is divisive and causes a huge rift in the citizens, beyond just a difference of opinion.

      So sometimes it is hard to find the positive when you are beat down by your former party, and refuse to play victim or kiss and make up with them. And you do not want to join the other party either.

      • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

        Indeed, Katmoon. I feel dirty anytime I even hear from my former party.

      • drmilak

        Thanks for your reply, katmoon.

        I have now lived for 3.5 years in this country and am still learning about the political system here. It is safe to say that it is very different from what I am used to (Sweden) and there are a lot more emotions involved. My personal opinion is that the fact the Obama was elected was a best case scenario even though I thought that Hillary was the more competent and experienced one and should have, I think even though I didn’t had any say in this, won the nomination. The main reason that I believe the election results were for the best is that there is a lot of goodwill towards Obama and he is new on the scene. Compared to Hillary I can only imagine the vitriol that would have been directed towards here. It makes me cringe just thinking about it.

        • MG-PUMA

          As a person whose ancestors came from Sweden who lived there for 45 (forty-five) generations, I can tell you that here in the USA being a responsible American is more than a nice smile, a warm handshake, or having a “goodwill” vibe.

          Maybe that passes for an experienced mature candidate in Sweden, but not here – that is, until now. Last time I checked, no one calls upon the Swedes to come deliver them from some oppresive dictator – they call upon US.

          The USA didn’t get to World Number 1 by being superficial or by having the principles of cold cream-of-wheat.

          Unfortunately, there are those in the world, like Sweden and Norway, who want to eliminate the option of the oppressed to call on another country for assistance.

          The way to do that is to bring the USA to the level of, I don’t know, but let’s say Sweden or Norway who happily accept Royal Family pronunciations, are enamored of plastic surgery victim Princess Madeleine, and who are content for being know to make IKEA furniture and Volvos.

          MG-PUMA

          • drmilak

            MG-PUMA, there are good and bad things with any country. I have lived in both countries and there are a lot of differences, some things are better in Scandinavian countries, some are worse. Being free to choose where to live in the Western world as a researcher is invaluable and I really appreciate it. On the note of celebrity obsession though, Sweden is no more obsessed with its celebrities which happen to include the Royal family than the US. Also, the population of Sweden is less than 1/30 of the US or less than NYC’s population. For such a small country, I would say Sweden has achieved a lot of things in different fields.

            • MG-PUMA

              I am glad you feel that Scandinavian countries have achieved a lot and I’m also glad you think that being able to choose to come here is valuable.

              Should you choose to stay here of any length of time, I rec that you study American history and constitutional government in order to best understand and appreciate the differences between your homeland (constitutional monarchy) and the land that is my home (democratic republic).

              MG-PUMA

            • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

              Welcome to NQ, drmilak. It’s great to have other points of view. The regular commenters here also have great varieties and depths of experiences.

              In the US, we normally demand accountability and reward achievement, which is why many of us are frustrated with Obama who has given us neither and hidden behind a facade of mythical specialness. He is not special and greatly lacks substance.

              When you ask that good old American question “Where’s the beef?” you find that Obama turns out to be just a little wienie.

              • Lana

                That’s it SNK, and it’s part of what I wrote to the Nobel Committee yesterday. America is a land of hard workers. We reward hard work. We do not reward speeches, unfulfilled promises or unctuous puffery (my favorite line I learned here)

                drmilak if you’ve been here for 3.5 years, you know exactly why we don’t think Obama should have been rewarded with the presidency. He was named the winner of the democratic primary, even though he amassed fewer votes than Hillary and the votes he did receive were through thuggery and cheating. We don’t tend to reward that.

          • FLDemFem

            Your ancestors arrived here 900 years ago?? Wow..call the Smithsonian right away!! I am sure their anthropologists will be fascinated to hear how your ancestors managed to arrive and survive with no one noticing them. By the way, a generation is held to be 20 years, so divide the years since the ancestors’ arrival date by 20 and you will have the number of generations. My earliest American ancestors arrived in 1676, 100 years before the Revolution, but that is only 16-17 generations. Just sayin’

            • Lyn

              She did NOT say her ancestors arrived HERE 900 years ago, she said they lived THERE (in Sweden) 45 generations.

              “As a person whose ancestors came from Sweden who lived there for 45 (forty-five) generations, I can tell you that here in the USA being a responsible American is more than a nice smile, a warm handshake, or having a “goodwill” vibe”

          • trixta

            Hey, leave IKEA and VOLVOS aloooooone!

            • MG-PUMA

              :)

              MG-PUMA

        • elizabethrc

          That good will is greatly diminished in the eyes of much of the world, as they begin to see what a fraudulent, ineffectual, ill-equipped and lazy leader Obama is. Even many of his former cheerleaders are openly questioning his abilities.

        • jbjd

          drmilak, please, for a concise summary of what went wrong with the 2008 election, read “NEVER LESS THAN A TREASON” (1&2) on my blog. BO was named the nominee notwithstanding he did not win the nomination. We have begun filing complaints to A’sG in applicable states, charging named members of the D party committed election fraud by certifying to state election officials BO was a qualified candidate for President so they would print his name on the state’s general election ballot, before they ascertained whether he was eligible for the job. That’s a crime.

          I absolutely accept the right of my fellow citizens to elect a President I consider incompetent to the office; but I cannot allow anyone to foist upon me a man I believe could be Constitutionally ineligible for the job.

          http://jbjd.wordpress.com

          • Lana

            Well said. Can you give us a quick update on how that is going, or is it better to go to your site. Anyone know how the case with Judge Carter is going?

            • Chelsea Patriot

              Lana, Judge Carter has scheduled the trial to open January 26, 2010.

        • Lyn

          I don’t think it is ever in the BEST interest to lie, cheat and steal an election because the rest of the world has good will toward someone, ESPECIALLY a person who has NEVER accomplished or worked for anything in his life. Hillary studied the issues for years and worked hard so she WOULD be ready on day one and not still be flying around talking about what she wants to do almost a year after being elected.
          NOTHING justifies stealing an election. I don’t know why anyone gives a damn about the elections in Iraq being unfair, hwhen they were perfectly fine with cheating, and fraud to give the nomination to Obama in OUR Country.

          • FranSC

            Amen, Lyn! Everytime 0bama is asked about the fraudulent elections anywhere, the latest being Afganistan, I get the feeling he is quite uncomfortable knowing what he knows about his OWN fraudulent election.

            I can tell he prefers not to get into that quagmire. He doesn’t know any other way to get elected but through a process that involves fraud including his very first IL legislature run.

            Remember Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – “It doesn’t matter how you get elected, the only thing the people will remember is that you got elected.”

            0bama has used that with everything in his life from attending the best ivy league schools via Affirmative Action with no cost to him, being ‘selected’ as the president of the Harvard Law Review was merely window dressing for Harvard but worked for 0, ‘selected’ as the dem party nominee 4 years before the first vote was cast, and the latest accepting the Nobel Peace Prize that was not earned. But remember, “it’s not how you got there that will be remembered. It’s that you did.”

            Still working like a charm for The One.

            • Lyn

              and I NEVER want to hear Carter talking about unfair elections ANY WHERE in the world. He knew what was going on here but because of his haterd of the Clintons and the fact his grandkids liked Obama made it ok election fraud was going on HERE and he went along with it and kept his mouth shut for once.
              Any respect I had for him was lost during the Primaries. I did even email him several times to ask him, why he flies over the world making sure elections are “fair” but doesn’t care what the Obama camp and DNC were doing to steal the nomination in his own Country. Surprisingly I never got any replies.

        • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

          “Compared to Hillary I can only imagine the vitriol that would have been directed towards her.”

          So what do you think of Speaker Pelosi’s viral talking point that the astroturfers want to start an armed rebellion against Obama? Is she lying?

          Since you’re not from this country, maybe you don’t get how inflammatory it is when Obot teachers brainwash schoolkids to sing Hosannah to ‘The Leader.’

          You have no idea how offensive that is to us — how deep it runs in the American soul that we do not worship the State. We’re the world’s most successful revolutionaries — nearly 200 years ahead of the liberation curve. We bow to no one. If you bow to your own President, you’ll bow to a foreign invader.

          I feel about those Obot schoolteachers like I’d feel about Soviet tanks rolling down my street. The most virulent anti-Hillary right winger felt nothing like this. I’m a black gay man, I’ve been fighting with the right wing all my life. But I’ll side with conservative Americans before I ever side with Neo-Stalinists.

          • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

            Oh, Bravo, whoframedrudy! Excellent!

            You put into words exactly my feelings about those airheads.

        • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

          We do not elect our President by committee which is what happened in this sham primary election. It doesn’t matter what you or anyone else’s opinion is of the fresh faced popular guy. He cheated his way and we do not accept him.

          • FranSC

            The most worrisome part for me is all of the cheating to the top is still in place for the 2012 nominating process. The DNC has no incentive to do anything about it since it works for them too. The dem party county and state organizations are 0bama run.

            • lorac

              And remember Obama moved the DNC to Chicago before the election was even over. That means it is most defintely stacked with KoolAid people. It’s rare for someone to run against an incumbent, but if someone like Hillary actually goes up against him in 2012, the DNC location and staff will be a problem. I’m pretty certain that’s why it was done. Presidents don’t hang out in Chicago, they’re in Washington (supposedly) working – there is no good reason for it to have been shipped to Obama’s “hometown”.

        • hc123

          “The main reason that I believe the election results were for the best is that there is a lot of goodwill towards Obama and he is new on the scene.”

          drmilak:

          I have an awesome balinese cat, really terrific. Everywhere we go (he walks around with me outside, just something he likes to do) there is so much goodwill towards him you cannot believe it. People cross the street just to say hi and express their contentment to just be near him. He is a natural.

          Also, my cat is really new on the scene, hes about 18 months old and untainted by links to lobbyists or past political organizations.

          If that is all that is required for a “best case scenario” president, my cat has it locked up.

          My cat has a full birth certificate as well, stating that he was born in Catonsville, Maryland. And his last checkup was great, he is in perfect health, and is a nonsmoker.

          So watch out in 2012, suckers.

          I just hope “fluffy” (names changed to protect the innocent) doesnt forget the little people when he gets to the big office.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Master Po: [after easily defeating the boy in combat] Ha, ha, never assume because a man has no eyes he cannot see. Close your eyes. What do you hear?
      Young drmilak: I hear the water, I hear the birds.
      Master Po: Do you hear your own heartbeat?
      Young drmilak: No.
      Master Po: Do you hear the grasshopper that is at your feet?
      Young drmilak: [looking down and seeing the insect] Old man, how is it that you hear these things?
      Master Po: Young drmilak, how is it that you do not?

      .

  • http://liberalrapture.com/ John (from Liberal Rapture)

    Hey, Great News! I am getting a nobel prize in literature for THIS comment! Whoo hoo!

    • Lana

      Hey–and I got one for making a speech about intending to read your comment.

      • lorac

        LOL

      • requiredreading

        Oh! And I just got one for announcing that I’m going to make a speech about your speech intending to read John (fLR)’s comment. I’m truly humbled.

  • trist

    Yup, this is like in grade school where the teacher lines up the kids to hand out awards, one will receive a blue ribbon or something for their science project, one will get a red ribbon for their essay on whales, until every child has one except for poor Billy who tends to get “c” or “d”‘s, because he likes to skip class a lot, he just isn’t the most studious of persons, and has many excuses for why his home work is often late on incomplete. But rather than send him home empty handed to cry to his parents he was the only one who got nothing and risk ridicule from his peers, teacher bings him before the class, makes the biggest to do about HIS award, which is the gold plated platinum medallion with sparkly stars and light-up swirls given to him for simply being “the bestest YOU, you can be!!!” WAY TO GO BILLY!!!

    Of course no consideration is given to how the other kids feel who actually earned their awards, but you know that’s just life I guess!

  • drmilak

    Thanks for your reply, Pat.

    I don’t think that the definition of achievement has changed with this year’s Nobel peace prize. I think that most people understand that this was in large part a political decision.

    I myself have been and am striving hard as a researcher in neuroscience with more than 13 years of higher education and training. I am not American but I came to work here precisely because this country has the best of the best in research. I intend to stay in this country and contribute as a researcher because the opportunities here are so great. I come from one of the Nordic countries and believe me, there’s a whole world of difference in the level of research.

    • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

      I might add that most of the people who come to this blog love the USA over any other country…over any political party. We don’t believe the person selected is worthy of his office and we see the leftists moving rapidly without any concern for America or her citizens to change our traditions and subvert the constitution. We will never agree to go along.

      • barry bums a ciggie

        most of the people who come to this blog love the USA over any other country

        Yep, as an immigrant, love all the beauty and blemishes of America and unapologetic about it.

    • Portia Elizabeth

      My background is also in research and I spent several years doing neuroscience research on 5-HT, dopamine, norepinephrine, etc. As a researcher you more than most can appreciate that even a grant is not given until the researcher can prove a record of progress in a specific area of research. For instance, you may have years of experiments and data on the effects of tryptamine derivatives, but you won’t get a grant to study cocaine effects until you can show the ones who review your grant proposals that you have a novel way to study those effects and a track record of how to do so.

      That said, how can you explain your defense of a man who, if he were applying for a grant to study a means of obtaining peace, has no data and no record of ever doing anything to merit that grant? If he were applying to NIH, he would never make it past the first round and would be laughed out of science. And you must know this if you are who you claim.

      • drmilak

        Portia, I am not defending anything. I am all too familiar with the grant application and award process at the NIH and I think it is a good thing because it rewards the best of the best and spurs progress.

        All I am saying is that the reasons for what happened with the Nobel peace prize should be pretty transparent to anyone and I am questioning all the outrage. I am not defending the Norwegian committee’s decision. I am just questioning why all the criticism because first of all, this is not an NIH grant or a Nobel prize in medicine. It is a peace prize and there are politics involved in that which in my opinion precludes objectivity. Secondly, it is not an award that Obama awarded to himself and thirdly, of course everyone understand that this award does not, at this point, reflect his achievements. Therefore, I don’t think that anyone would be led to believe that they don’t have top achieve anything in order to be rewarded.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Barack Obama:Peace::Alchemist:Lead to Gold

        • Portia Elizabeth

          Thank you for your reply. With all due respect it is not transparent to me as to what the Nobel Committee were thinking by awarding a coveted peace prize to someone who is not a symbol of peace. Their obscure thinking insults and denigrates anyone else who has ever been awarded the prize. It makes a travesty of the entire concept of a prize for peace.

        • MG-PUMA

          Just reading and rereading your response, my conclusion is that you would be most happiest in Sweden where there is already a government in place that best reflects you views.

          It would be in your best interests to return there, no offense intended. There are many up and coming graduates here in the US (I live near Stanford University) who would benefit from the research enviro that you currently occupy.

          Just a question though: why do people (such as yourself) come here from other countries and then proceed to try to change it into something that resembles where they came from?

          I mean, why come here at all when, by staying in your own land, you can enjoy the immediate and long-term effects of the political change you seek here?

          As a Californian, I have witnessed the change in my own State due to persons such as yourself who, well-meaning, attempt and achieve political, cultural and societal change simply by remaking the political landscape.

          Whatever you are currently enjoying: “but I came to work here precisely because this country has the best of the best in research” will not last and will be destroyed as my country setttles into the low-level niche countries such as Sweden would like it to be in.

          MG_PUMA

          • drmilak

            Wow, you don’t know a thing about me and yet you feel you can pass judgement. Unbelievable! I only hope that your other judgements are more informed.

            • Ferd Berfle

              I only hope that your other judgements are more informed.

              Passing judgment is exactly what you did with your first comment, whether you care to admit it or not. Now do you understand?

            • MG-PUMA

              Unfortunately for you, I have picked up enough clues and information about you from your post to make my observation.

              And here in the USA, as a citizen, I am eligible to serve on a State or Federal jury which can either mete out life imprisonment or the death penalty;

              so yes, I am qualified to judge.

              MG-PUMA

              • Ferd Berfle

                Excellent and good for you, MG-PUMA. You take citizenship for what it is supposed to be, serious business–thank you for taking pride in it.

                SPOT ON

            • Arabella Trefoil

              You aren’t a troll dr milak? Unbelievable.

              Say something in Swedish.

              • Onofre’s arm

                Meatballs!

                • Ferd Berfle

                  LMAO

                  Where’s that Swedish Chef when you need him? … Borp, borp, borp. I’ll have geskurgen flurgen.

              • TeakWoodKite

                Arabella, This an early example of the blow back you mentioned.

                The indifferent response to an indifferent winner of an award he himself he did not deserve.

                Onofre’s arm; Meatballs indeed.

                Ferd, I dare ya to click on this link, just remember to have your umbrella open when ya do. :)

                • ~~JustMe~~

                  Hey Teak your link is not working? :)

                • Onofre’s arm

                  Hey Teak, although I tried to get to your link, the “arrow” cursor dissappears when I move it onto your blue “Meatballs” (blue balls Teak? How appropriately unrequiting!). Try again, I would really like to see what you want us to see.

                  • TeakWoodKite
                    • Ferd Berfle

                      LMAO. It looks like an old Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers or Mr. Natural Strip.

                    • TeakWoodKite

                      You notice the Camp Pendelton stamp on the first page? Nice touch in declassifying top secret material.

                      :)

              • elizabethrc

                Well, he did say WOW! That’s a Scandinavian term frequently used, isn’t it?
                Did he give himself away?

        • Ferd Berfle

          BO:peace
          Alchemist:turning lead into gold

          Both dreamed; Neither happened

        • N. Lee

          Playing devil’s advocate is a nice gesture, but most on this blog know the truth. I suspect you have drank your daily dose of Koolaid. Stop doing that and your eyes will open like ours have.

      • jbjd

        …and when such ‘data’ is required, ‘recreates’ the record with smoke and mirrors. (I am referring now to the so-called video of his alleged anti-war ‘speech.’)

    • Pat Racimora

      Hello again,

      If the Nobel prizes are heavily political the awards will have lost all meaning.

      I understand that the Peace Prize is more difficult to quantify–e.g., no chemical discoveries or breakthrough cures of physical ailments, no books to evaluate. But, to me, that is all the more reason to carefully consider what actions across time and their results would be deserving of such a prestigious honor.

      But, it is like someone already commented–it’s their prize to do with as they please. I an just concerned that it is one more example–and a very high profile one–of devaluaing real achievement.

      • Onofre’s arm

        And that is a great reason to evaluate the world and all of it’s gifts from an individual and personal perspective, and not from a viewpoint erected by those wishing to drive us like cattle.

    • Lyn

      SO IF everyone KNOWS he didn’t earn it and it was JUST a political decision, will there always be an asterick next to his name to show he didn’t do anything to earn it beside being elected POTUS sincenominations were closed 10 days later? …I thought not, so it DOES cheapen the honor and takes away from those who DID do actions that have the prize.

      I know the Noms were closed 10 days after he has sworn in, I’d love to know exactly WHEN he was Nominated…when he was still campagning?

  • Ferd Berfle

    We seem to be setting a new standard for achievement. (And I think I just fell down a rabbit hole.)

    You said in a few words what needed to be said, Pat. Thank you.

    Yes, the dumbing down of America is nearly complete. The new hires we get (I work for a major engineering firm) are lazy, expect an office and a secretary; they get in late and leave early, and expect bonuses, great performance reviews, and lots of time off with pay. My reviews take twice as long as they used to because instead of actually learning how to spell and write coherently (and other such trivial matters), they use spell-check and the Word grammar-glitcher. Most of the time, I just completely rewrite their abominable dreck so our client gets their documents on time. When someone hands me a document with hazardous “waist” in the introductory text, I know its going to be a long day.

    • MG-PUMA

      Ferd, I suggest that hiring managers and HR in your company read “Snakes in Suits – When Psychopaths Go To Work” by Babiak and Hare, PhD’s.

      Seems to me that if your company is having that big of a problem, the solution lies in re-examining your hiring criteria since there are many many competent and work-willing engineering grads out there who do want to work.

      MG-PUMA

      • Ferd Berfle

        That doesn’t work when the client on this project, a governmental entity, insists on criteria that doesn’t have competence as the very first item in the list. In the 25 years I’ve been doing this, it gets worse every year and the bureaucrats are the worst offenders at not being capable or competent. Everything is about appearance of actually accomplishing something.

        But they do build very nice fiefdoms….

        • MG-PUMA

          ahhhh, got it!

          “….the bureaucrats are the worst offenders at not being capable or competent.”

          Let me guess: “credit goes up and blame goes down”

          Sorry for your situation.

          Take care and I love your posts, btw.

          MG-PUMA :)

          • Ferd Berfle

            Thank you, MG-PUMA. Your posts are succinct and always spot on. I’m not on my best behavior tonight (or last) as this entire episode with the Nobel Prize has me absolutely furious, particularly considering that it besmirches the reputation of past winners by putting his name beside theirs. It is an abomination.

            • MG-PUMA

              I must admit that I’m somewhat blunt, however, that can be easily traced as my behavioral response to the obscenities heaped on HRC by the Obots during the Primaries.

              No worries about being on your best behavior – your posts are so fun to read and your POV is spot-on.

              Thanks for contributing significantly to the integrity of this Board. :)

              MG-PUMA

              • Ferd Berfle

                Well thank you so much, MG-PUMA. I am appreciative of your comments.

                I, too, am reminded constantly of the abuse heaped upon HRC, of whom I am still a steadfast supporter. It was unconscionable. And these trolls who came here during the run-up to the election are the same trolls who come here daily to continue to heap derision on her and those of us who were of sound enough mind to understand that BO was a cardboard cut-out, an empty suit with matching empty skull all along. Here’s to the regulars at NQ. May we continue to dare tell the truth.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Everything is about the appearance of accomplishing something rather than actually doing it.

          Mea culpa.

  • Rich

    Love the cartoon. I also agree that for sometime the world has been changing to something I would not have believed. It seems like in the new world, experience is a dirty word. Age and wisdom used to mean that age and years of experience go together, now it means wisdom and youth go together and stupidity and maturity go together. Saying is the same as doing. And hope replaces hard work.

    This is not a black and white issue. It is a societal problem we older generation allowed to happen when we bought into the notion that feeling good is more important than doing good. Where competing was bad and getting along is more important. Where being a team player was more important than an independent thinker.

    And to prove my point of how the world has changed, the Nobel Peace Prize is given out to one who speaks of peace before he even has had a chance to create peace.

    Rich

    • Portia Elizabeth

      Rich — as I see it, it’s worse than that. He not only hasn’t had a chance to create peace; he hasn’t even shown that he would seek world peace. He’s talked so much, but his words seem to be hollow. Even given the chance, I’m not at all confident he’d work toward that goal.

      • elizabethrc

        One needs to look at Obama’s lifetime associations to recognize that they are a violent lot. Wright is certainly no peacemaker, Ayers? Bomb the problem away? Black militants? Acorn and their intimidation tactics?
        Portia, you’re quite right in questioning whether he truly seeks peace. I think domination would be a better word.

      • Lyn

        It must have been his “IF they bring a knife to the fight.We’ll bring a Gun” speech that won them over.

  • Hank

    Why did BO win the Noble Peace prize, it should have been his speech writer. BO just reads what he makes up. Maybe he is the charity that will get the $1.4 million.

    • trixta

      Exactly! Favreau should have gotten the award for best con-job speech writer.

  • Hank

    The NOBLE PEACE PRICE has been demeanonized forever.

    • Hank

      oops PRIZE

      • Ferd Berfle

        Price is probably more to the point, Hank, and is a better word, actually.

        • TeakWoodKite

          Hey Hank, your right in this case.

          Ferd, funny Hank can slip and he can be right, but that obot can make the same error and feels no need to correct themselves. Ironic.

  • lightacandle

    I think we have to be aware of how sensitive the Obamabots are about The One right now

    Do you recall when you first found out there was NO Santa Claus?

    Well, that’s how the Bots are feeling … they are starting to suspect and then realize that there is no there, there, with Obama. He is all fluff and no substance.

    So, the Bots lash out, call us names, accuse us of being negative … the reality is they just want to sob … their dream turned out to be a farce and a fraud.

    So, they blame us. Which is interesting.

    Yes, I know it doesn’t make any sense to blame us; after all, many of us spent a lot of time and effort trying to get them to stop drinking the Kool-Aid and start doing some research into Obama’s Illinois state senate years (where he dodged voting yes or no and voted “present” on tough votes 130 times so he wouldn’t have to defend his votes), his U.S. senate record (where he promised NOT to vote to end any filibuster against granting telecom immunity, but then did) , his unwillingness to let us see anything he wrote in college (why?), his pledge to accept federal funding of his campaign if his Republican opponent did (and McCain did, but Obama didn’t), his many other empty promises (promises he had, we now know,no intention of keeping).

    It’s sad, and they’re upset. But being Bots, and following the lead of their Hopey Changey Messiah, they cannot accept any responsibility for finding out too late that Obama is an empty suit, a weakling, an appeaser, but not a president who accomplishes great things for others (although he does seem to do well in looking out for himself).

    So, when the Bots lash out at us, check to see how many of the usual Bot insults they hurl at us.

    We’re “negative” … check

    We’re “not constructive” … check

    We’re “douchebags” … check

    We “must love” George Bush … check

    We’re “racists” … check

    View them with pity; they are discovering The One is An Empty Suit; and, like Obama, they have to find someone else to blame that things have gone wrong for them.

    • MG-PUMA

      Good post.

      It should be renamed “The Nobel Appeasement Prize”
      since it seems to be about that and not having achieved anything.

      He should give the prize money to those who were up for consideration – any of which should have won.

      MG-PUMA

      • lightacandle

        Thanks!

        I was thinking of this title: “The Egobama Problem”

        • Lyn

          Don’t forget even WORSE than all the “present” votes were the times he would PROMISE people he would vote 1 way and then, slime that he is voted the other way (usually to benifit one of his big donors) and then after the votes were counted say Ooops I hit the worng button. Knowing the vote would stand, but it would “look” loke he wasn’t lieing to all the people he promised he would vote the other way. He hit the wrong buttin 6 or 7 times?
          His only real job was hitting 1 of 3 big colored buttons and he couldn’t do that right? So if he isn’t the most imcompetent person evah, he has a track record of lieing and breaking promises.

    • lorac

      The Nobel Prize fiasco is like a mirror being held up to their faces, I think that’s a lot of why they’re so upset. It’s making them see how ridiculous THEY have been in their blind infatuation with him. They’re feeling pretty silly and embarrassed.

      • lightacandle

        Yeah, Noway only gave Obama a meaningless prize that carries no power with it.

        The Bots, on the other hand, handed Obama the keys to ultimate power, gave Obama access to OUR money to hand out to anyone who will help him get re-elected, gave Obama the keys to Air Force One (which toy he apparently can’t get enough of) and enabled him to lie to a wider audience than he would have had as just a senator.

        • lorac

          “enabled him to lie to a wider audience”

          Good way to put it!

  • drmilak

    Pat, Katmon, Portia and Martha again thanks for your respectful replies. If I appeared to be disrespectful, as Ferd stated, I apologize. It was not my intention. Maybe it is because I am not a native speaker.

    I am trying to understand your point of view. Thanks for your time replying to my post. Take care!

    • MG-PUMA

      No worries.

      For someone your age (I’m thinking late twenties, thirties) it is hard to relocate to another nation and immediately begin to have total comprehension and understanding of politics and history.

      Its even more difficult, when one doesn’t have a grasp of cultural differences to engage in a discussion of a political regime change that is currently taking place in a nation that has not been exposed to that change on a national level before.

      Thank you for visiting and I apologize for coming across as rudely making assumptions about your views.

      Personally, I think you would be happiest in Sweden where your point-of-view is the standard.

      MG-PUMA

      • drmilak

        MG-PUMA, thanks for your comments. I have been recruited to an Ivy League University so I will stick around this country for a while. I don’t mind different points of view. Again, sorry if I came across as rude.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      You smell like a fraud to me, drmilak.

      • drmilak

        May I ask in what way?

        • Arabella Trefoil

          Are you addressing me, drmilak?

          If so, I detect troll signs in your posts.

          Say something in Swedish.

          • drmilak

            Arabela, you want me to say something in Swedish? What is that going to prove? Do you even know Swedish? This is childish but OK I’ll humor you.

            Det är inte så svårt. Kan du överhuvudtaget förstå vad jag säger?

            • Arabella Trefoil

              You know how to use babelfish! Or to copy and paste. Smart trollie.

              How come all of a sudden the soothing concern tone of your posts has been, as we say in the USA lost?

              You have troll allelles.

            • lightacandle

              “Det är inte så svårt. Kan du överhuvudtaget förstå vad jag säger?”

              “It is not so difficult. Can you even understand what I’m saying?”

              My family came here from Sweden and we still have lots of relatives there. They are wonderful people but have NO idea how much more complex political life is in America than in Sweden.

              The same goes for Norway, which accounts for the (maybe) well-meaning Peace Prize — but it is the naiveté that can be very irritating to thinking Americans.

              We have serious problems in this country, and we are a world power. Sweden is a nice quiet place that hasn’t had a war since the 1600s. No one asks Sweden to intervene in troubled places. The Swedes sat out WWII. That’s fine for Sweden, but thank God we had FDR (and NOT Obama) to pull us all through that war to a time of peace and prosperity.

              Obama is a farce and a fraud.

              Sorry to burst your bubble.

              • Ferd Berfle

                What an outstanding comment! Your seven paragraphs just sent drwang/drmilak to the showers, lightacandle. The comparisons were spot on.

                • lightacandle

                  Thanks for the nice words.

                  “just sent drwang/drmilak to the showers”

                  Do you suppose he’s busy flossing right now?

                  • Ferd Berfle

                    Oh, yuck, lightacandle… That is one fugly visual.

                    LMAO

              • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

                thank God we had FDR (and NOT Obama) to pull us all through that war to a time of peace and prosperity.

                lightacandle, this just reminded me of a line in my email to the Nobel Committee:
                …”What did we ever do to Norway…other than get rid of Hitler?”

    • Katmoon

      drmilak,

      Just as a heads up for you, my observation of myself as an American, I can be ugly, and I can be vulgar, and I actually can live with it. Sometimes civility and discourse really don’t work well with what needs to be said. There is a comedian named Lewis Black, who relates adults swear and use filthy language so they do not commit acts of violence. I agree with him. Many here supported SOS Clinton, many still do or care for her. We continue to watch good people be savaged, people who have earned far more than they have been given credit for. We have been treated as less than human for supporting someone other than Obama. So I throw that standard right back at anyone who challenges the rhetoric here. Honestly you can go back a mere 24 hours and find cruel and baiting remarks by obama supporters.
      Also, it isn’t unusual for an obama supporter to come in here as a coward and pretend to be nice and suck up and try to “direct” how we are supposed to communicate here. Nothing smells more manipulative than that to myself, I know the first line of manipulation is to try and tell people how they are suppose to think and speak.
      Most people I know and on this blog as well, just don’t change how they communicate when they know it is a safe place to have true freedom of expression.

      • elizabethrc

        Katmoon. Conservatives have allowed liberals to dominate the conversation, bowing to the left’s inability to accept dissent. How many times have we had to listen to Al Sharpton use his non-stop, high decibel yelling and interrupting to drown out dissent, not to make a valid point.
        For heaven’s sake, I am even beginning to side with Ann Coulter, who last night on Geraldo (whom I do NOT watch, but happened upon last night), did not back down and talked through Sharpton. She actually said what so many feel, that Obama gets things because he is black, not because he is qualified (I’m paraphrasing).
        We’re not ‘supposed’ to say these truths, but thankfully more Ann Coulters are rising (I praise her fighting spirit, not her politics so much).
        It’s time.
        Thank heaven for the FOX channel, where conservatives are simply employing the techniques used against them by liberals. I applaud Beck for actually throwing that sleazy Acorn spokesman off of his set for his behaviour!

        • lightacandle

          Oh, I think the Nobel Peace Prize committee pretty much acknowledged (without actually saying it) that they gave the prize to Obama because he’s black and because America elected a black man and they wanted to praise that.

          Most of Obama’s supporters voted for him because he’s black and they wanted to show how open-minded they are. Face it, all the Bots who called us “racists” for continuing to think Hillary would have been a better president have “race” on their minds all the time.

          This election was all about race. The Europeans went ga-ga because America elected a black man. They knew nothing of Obama’s real record in Illinois or in the U.S. senate; they just knew he was black.

          With Obama’s lack of any real achievement in life, does any sane person really believe he would have been nominated or elected president if he’d been a white guy?

          Even Obama tried to play down his white side; there was more to be gained for him by emphasizing his black side — and the Nobel prize is proof of the correctness of that assumption.

          Clearly President Bill Clinton did FAR more to bring peace to this world wherever possible, AND he made friends for America all over the world. But did the Nobel committee care to acknowledge that? No. Bill Clinton was (to them) just another white president. They were only going to reward America for choosing a black president.

          And that is ALL the Nobel prize for Obama was about.

          Nothing else, because there is nothing else to reward him for.

          There is NO peace and Obama has no achievements other than suckering people into believing his false promises and voting for him.

          The Nobel Peace Prize committee made fools of themselves and even Obama will soon realize they made a fool of him by giving him a prize he had done nothing to merit.

  • sowsear
    • MG-PUMA

      I loved this one from the link, made me think of HRC:

      “The Nobel Committee said that it would spend the rest of the year figuring out ways President Obama could camp on the Prizes in Medicine, Chemistry and Physics but thought that they could swing it if they knocked a couple of hardworking women out of the running.”

      MG-PUMA

      • Docelder

        He can play outfield for an at bat for whatever team is about to win the World Series. Kneel down a play as QB for whatever team is about to win the superbowl… he deserves it, the sky is the limit. Pile it on and keep it coming. While we are at it, Michelle can be Miss America, I don’t see why not. Bots everywhere already know she deserves it. The dog needs to win one of those Animal Planet dog shows, the dog deserves it also.

        • MG-PUMA

          LOL!!!

          MG-PUMA

        • Onofre’s arm

          “Michelle can be Miss America”. Well, she’s big enough. Her toe could be Florida. O.K. I know this is an exageration, but she could at least be Miss Issippi.

          • Docelder

            We went to a high school football game last night and I saw a high school kid wearing around a t-shirt that said “I (heart) Michelle Obama”. You never would have seen a high school kid wearing the same shirt about Laura Bush. It would have been seen as awkward or worse. Why are the Obama’s any different? They want it both ways… they want all the respect of the office of the President, yet they want to have the lifestyle of pop stars. To me, the two don’t go together. Trying to make them go together is a big part of the disconnect.

            • Onofre’s arm

              As a diehard iconoclast, I’m far more likely to spot the flaws of ANYONE before I’ll acknowledge their qualities. It has always bothered me when friends or relatives gush excessively over some celebrity or public official, based solely on media hype and garb. I can barely tolerate the type of fool that wears a Batman T-shirt, or loses it in the presence of pathetic boobs like the Obamas. Can you imagine the torture that I’m enduring with the insufferable and ubiquitous Obama moron-mania? It’s beyond disgusting. For the first time in my adult life I’m ashamed of my country, and furious at the assholes that have caused this (that’s you Prime Obot and your bonehead treasonous buddies). I have to keep telling myself, “One day at a time, you can withstand the most odious treatment if you can say to yourself ‘It’s just for today, tomorrow will be better’”.

              It also helps to be connected to like minded folks at NQ, even though I’m not unaware that I sometimes ruffle feathers when I take shots at some of the regular’s dearly held icons. Sorry, I can’t help it, I’m congenitally forced to call ‘em as I see ‘em.

              • TeakWoodKite

                G’wan Onofre’s arm, take a sot. lOL I want to see if I have glass jaw like BO.

                • TeakWoodKite

                  shot :)

                  • Onofre’s arm

                    Well Teak, if one of your dearly held icons is Herradura Tequila, done and DONE!

                    • Onofre’s arm

                      Wow, how about those Huskies? If you weren’t watching—like I was—what an unbelievable finnish! Watch the replays tomorrow! It gives me………I almost hate to say it………Hope!

                    • TeakWoodKite

                      Save the worm for me. :)

  • Arabella Trefoil

    drmilak is a variation of concern troll.

    I don’t believe him for a minute.

    The people here can see the troll signs as well as I can.

    Sign number 567 “Never can say good bye!” The troll keeps saying “good bye” after stroking a few posters for their ‘understanding’ (the “take care” is diagnostic of concern troll.)

    But you need as Order of Protection to keep the troll from coming back. And back, and back.

    • drmilak

      Ok, Arabela, anyone of a different point of view is a troll. I used to frequent NQ during the primaries bacause I was a Hillary supporter and I still come to read some of the bloggers like Rabble Rouser Rev Amy’s posts on LGBT rights, ok?

      Tonight is one of the rare occasions when I try to engage in a discussion. Rest assured that won’t happen again. Does that pass your troll smell test?

      • Arabella Trefoil

        No, you smell like a troll to me. A variant of a concern troll.

        So why haven’t you left yet, trollie? Go grade some papers or something.

      • drmilak

        Sorry I misspelled your name, Arabella. With regards to me using some polite expressions I am just being civil because I don’t believe in rudeness. Good night!

        • Arabella Trefoil

          Good night to you to, drmilak.

          • Katmoon

            Any moment on of the usual suspects will reappear, I hear you Arabella, my response, got eaten, in the same vein as what you have been saying.

            • Arabella Trefoil

              Thanks, katmoon.

        • Pat Racimora

          Hey all. I think DrM is OK. My toon brought forth that kind of questioning. I didn’t mind and appreciated the opportunity to try to clarify. In my experience a real troll would not spend so much time trying to exaplain him or herself. They just hit and run.

          I say give him/her a break!

      • Ferd Berfle

        I used to frequent NQ during the primaries bacause I was a Hillary supporter and I still come to read some of the bloggers like Rabble Rouser Rev Amy’s posts on LGBT rights, ok?

        I remember now–you posted DrWang or some such trollish tomfoolery. You were a bot then, too. I called you a quack at that time, too.

        • Arabella Trefoil

          Ferd, yeah that’s the guy. He’s a concern troll who tries to act like Mr. Spock on Star Trek.

          He comes around here now and then, but the troll markers always give him away.

          • Ferd Berfle

            He’s a concern troll who tries to act like Mr. Spock on Star Trek.

            LMAO, Arabella. Collectively, at NQ, we catch these trolls before they know what hit them. Dr. Imaquack just found out the hard way.

  • Katmoon

    Help last remark was eaten

  • bill

    Stratfor expects that the US and/or Israel will be attacking Iran sooner than later, http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20091005_two_leaks_and_deepening_iran_crisis. Perhaps, the Nobel Committee in its outrageous award is pushing Obama to appeas Iran rather an attack Iran.

    • Ferd Berfle

      My money is on Israel. That One won’t be able to read the movement of the political wind anytime soon on the Iran issue and Israel won’t wait on him to grow a decision bone or get a weather vane.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Bill, the author makes some good points but the weakest link in his arguement is BO.

      This is a very nasty peice of work that is coming down the pipe.

  • lark

    Pat, that is a nice picture of Hillary you posted up there. The real one, the one that works to bring peace between them and those. Too bad Obambi stole her prize. I bet the Turkish and the Armenians are sending thank you notes to Obama for the agreement she help to close this week. LOL.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,563627,00.html

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Afghanistan will be Obama’s Viet Nam. He’s shitting in his pants right now, and the Nobel Peace Prize could not have come at a worse time for him.

    Obama should have manned up and refused the Nobel Peace Prize on the grounds that he had not (yet) earned it.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Obama should have manned up and refused the Nobel Peace Prize on the grounds that he had not (yet) earned it.

      You bet Arabella. That One, however, isn’t a man in the normal usage of the word and “earned” is a word that must be completely foreign to him as I see nothing in what little I can find about him that demonstrates that he has earned anything in his entire life. He has used people and been used by them in some sort of twisted symbiotic relationship that would be the dream of any psychiatrist to diagnose and study.

      • Arabella Trefoil

        A really “humble” man would have declined the award on the grounds that he had done nothing to earn it. (Yet.)

        I would have been very amazed at, and impressed with Obama if he had declined the prize. But when it comes to a really meaningful gesture, Obama cannot make it.

        • Ferd Berfle

          I would have been very amazed at, and impressed with Obama if he had declined the prize. But when it comes to a really meaningful gesture, Obama cannot make it.

          And that is the crux of the matter. We KNOW him better than the bots do, which really makes their shallow comments all the more absurd on their face.

          I think Docelder said in this thread that the new conventional wisdom is that the old are stupid and the young are smart or something to that effect. You certainly couldn’t tell that from the stupidity I’ve seen coming from those with a noticeable dampness behind their aural orifices.

    • lark

      Obama should have manned up and refused the Nobel Peace Prize on the grounds that he had not (yet) earned it.

      Rather on the ground that he is President of the U.S. and has a job to do and do not need anything to influence him one way or another in issues of war and peace. President should be enough honor to him and nothing else should matter at this time. But the man is completely incapable of abstaining from lying and the NPP gives him a perfect opportunity to lie once more time.

      • Arabella Trefoil

        That’s an even better reason he should have refused the prize. Thanks for that insight!

    • sowsear

      Not only did he not refuse it, here is part of his acceptance speech (Note Bo/Harvard Grad)(Me, Me, Me)

      Me and women who have inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.”
      -President Obama, from his gracious (yes it was) Nobel Peace Prize

  • Texas Playwright

    I brushed my own teeth, tied my own shoelaces, and cooked my own breakfast this morning. Please rush my Nobel Prize to me via FedEx or a Chicago thug, whichever wants to buy my vote in the next sham (s)election.

  • Don X

    This had to be a political award since it was not earned. At least, OB recognizes he didn’t deserve it and is giving away the money.

    Today he managed to give a major snow job to the HRC to a thundering ovation. Promises, promises!

    Perhaps there should be a Nobel Dissimulation Prize. Now that is a prize he might deserve.

    • sowsear

      I can’t wait to see what his favorite charity is.

      And to keep people from continuing to talk about how he doesn’t deserve the prize, tonight it has been announced that he will rescind “don’t ask, don’t tell”. Had to do something…

      • Mia

        ACORN?

  • mel

    Next year it is already decided Obama will win the Nobel prize for Finance, how you ask?
    His policy to let the poor freeze to death!

    In 2011 it is already decided Obama will win the Nobel prize for literature, how you ask?Bill Ayers is already writing the book for Obama!

    In 2012, it is already decided Obama will win the Nobel prize for medicine, how you ask?His plan on how to overcome cancer, die!

  • donjo

    Wow! What a way to treat someone with a different opinion – especially since they may not really have much of a different opinion. The loud-mouth preening Freeper-look-alikes have won again. No different than a bunch of Ozero’s Acorn thugs shouting down people in the primaries. Truly sick and nothing to be proud about.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Incorrect. This “commenter” is a known bot from last year who went by the name of DrWang. Sorry, Donjo, but if the bots come here to stir up trouble, they’ll get it back ten-fold. These fools, who apparently have serious control issues, understand what NQ represents and the comment at their own risk.

      Really, I don’t go stirring up trouble at HuffyPoo; those Obots ought to give this site the same consideration.

      • donjo

        Do you have actual proof of this? Seems strange that a “troll” would only post once every year or so.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Try actually reading his dreck by looking at the thread above. I remember stilted English and prefabricated pablum and can sniff out a silly-ass troll a mile away.

          And if posting “only once every year or so” means that YOU can’t discern a troll from a drive-by obamabot, then you aren’t paying attention.

  • candymarl

    Whatever happened to being judged “not by the color of your skin but the content your character”? Those are words of man who earned his Nobel Peace Prize. MLK put his fortune and his life on the line for what he believed in. He wasn’t the only one. MLK was quick to acknowledge those that came before and those that gave their lives for freedom for all Americans.

    Obama couldn’t even manage to help the people in his own Senate district when the slumlord Rezko left them to freeze or swelter. Do you really think MLK would have looked the other way?

    There were other nominees that literally risked their lives for others. When did Obama ever risk his life for anything? Of course he registered minority voters in Chicago. How could he do that? Because of those who marched and fought and bled and died.

    As a true descendant of slaves that helped to build this country with none of the freedoms and rights that went along with that I am truly incensed.

    My great uncle was lynched for his being outspoken and a champion of rights long before MLK. Where is his Peace Prize?

    Oh I know. Maybe Obama can go to Kenya to support Odinga again. You know the guy he raised money for? Not one word from Obama about the slaughtered Kenyans that his cousin incited his followers to murder.

    Enough is enough.

  • yttik

    Cute cartoon! I think the award was for whirled peas. Something just got lost in translation.

    • Lyn

      whirled peas, I bet you are right. He probably does a good jobs smashing the peas and pretending he ate them so MEEshil won’t yell at him

  • Grace

    I wonder if at this point Obama may be thinking that being president for sure has its perks as he imagined and it does good for his ego, but he is having regrets about the inescapable expectations that he is now really supposed to WORK, and that’s a real bummer, man….

    I still remember during the debates early last year, when he said that as president he would be a delegator and not a “micromanager” (a condescending allusion to Hillary). He and his cronies probably had it all figured out: Congress was going to do all the hard work of crafting the policies, and Emmanuel and those like him were going to do the “arm twisting” by using all the Chicago tricks, such as blackmailing, threatening people with disclosing incriminating divorce papers, etc, etc.

    Obama is having withdrawal symptoms from his addiction to the adoring crowds; that’s the reason for the town hall meetings and the recycled speeches for every occasion. He needs “to make it fun” again.

  • Ducky

    Word’s just breaking that our friend Robby’s mother, Patricia Melton, of Mineral City, Ohio, has won the Nobel Prize for literature — without ever writing an actual book, or piece of literature.

    We caught up with Pattymelt, as we all call her, by phone from her perch at her kitchen table, during this morning’s Coffee Club Meeting (where all her friends were in stunned disbelief at her honor):

    “Well, of course, I read lots of books. Mostly mysteries. I like reading them to my cat-babies and then the cat-babies and I solve the mysteries long before the idiots in the book ever do. My husband Earl never solves any of the mysteries until the last page and even then he still doesn’t get the point because he forgets who most of the characters are, since all he ever thinks about is model trains. Sometimes I write letters to corporations or elected officials telling them how terrible they are, but I can’t say I ever wrote any literature. Though, one time, I did write 12 pages to that nice Lindsay Lohan telling her she needs to wear underwear and to stop showing everyone her private bits. Soon afterwards, I did notice that Lohan went to rehab to get some help, so maybe that’s why the Nobel Prize people gave me this award. It’s just too bad that nice Ed McMahon man from TV is dead because I bet he would have been the one to show up at the door this morning with balloons to tell me I won. Instead, I just got a call from someone I could barely understand from some other country. I thought it was my son Robby and his friends in Chicago playing a joke again. I really did. Just imagine, me, Patricia Melton, Nobel Prize winner!”

    …

    @ HillBuzz

    • MG-PUMA

      PUMA-purrr! :)

      MG-PUMA

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    I heard a local talk show commentator while I was out doing errands. He spoke of the Liberal need to give awards and prizes to other liberals; how in actuality (like affirmative action) it is denigrating to the recipient. It assumes that the person isn’t competent and needs a prize to feel better. Remember all those…at least in CA schools…self esteem issues and how no one could be a loser in any game? Everyone had to have a reward.

    What occurred to me though is that it makes the giver feel that they are so wonderful, so good to give a prize that makes the recipient feel worthy. He gave examples of how Liberals load up minorities with awards and also went through Supreme Court Justices past and present…by a huge margin liberals, especially minorities, had honorary degrees, awards, prizes given by fellow liberals. Judge Alito? He has as many as Mike Tyson. The TSHost sees this as an extension of that fuzzy thinking.

    I guess the Nobel judges saw that sad picture of 0zer0 and MEchille out on their anniversary date night looking so sad and depressed after the miserable presentation they made in Denmark. Shoot. They needed a prize to let them know they really are OK. But in the vein of “I’m OK, You’re OK”, I’d say to 0zer0 “I’m OK, you’re not even so-so”.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Great post!

  • http://firefox Martha Washington Collier

    Thinking more about the rewarding of prizes, etc., I believe that this is what drove the youth during the election. They are not fully developed mentally or psychologically. I do believe they just had to go along with giving the affirmative action candidate the prize of the presidency. I often thought during the campaign of how smug, self-satisfied, self- righteous and sanctimonious they were. Just so darn proud of themselves. We have attacked racism with a vengeance in the USA through education, dialogue and experience but they didn’t comprehend that voting for a candidate because of his color is racist. A couple of weeks ago, I checked on something quoted from Huff&Puff…first time in months. I was astounded at the level of worshipful comments…one after the other. My God, you’d think he was their own pet science project.

    I remember the day of the CA primary when my then boss came back from voting and said “I was going to vote for Hillary because of her many qualifications but when I got to the booth I just had to vote for the black guy.” He knew nothing whatsoever about him. Business was slowing down, he has a wife with whom he shares a house, 2 kids, history and not much more. He gave himself a cheap thrill and a moment to feel good about himself.

    I can only hope in the long run the absurdity of the Nobel fiasco will begin to make them see what they have done in time to help us next election to send him back to his corrupt town.

    • Lyn

      Great Post.

  • Scout

    My gratitude to everyone here who raised the recent history of our selectident:

    He lies
    He cheats
    He steals
    He race baits
    He’s a misogynist
    He waffles
    He breaks promises
    He’s not up to the task
    He says whatever he thinks someone wants to hear
    He’s not articulate
    He doesn’t love this country
    He demolished the democratic party
    He is not a “uniter”
    He wastes our money
    He acts like a cheesy celebrity
    He lectures all the time
    He doesn’t do much work
    He has no understanding of real sacrifice

    Ergo, his Nobel peace prize is an affront to those who have worked tirelessly for peace and cheapens the award in perpetuity.

    Did I forget anything?

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