*nobel “speech” prize*

Great post!
I liked the twitter comment “Once again, Susan Lucci gets robbed.”

Thanks for the shoutout! And thanks to Lou Dobbs for being a Voice of Reason more often than not.

Figures…a woman does all the hard work, and the man gets the accolades. ;O)

Yes, I forgot to add:

Hillary Clinton broke her elbow doing the heavy diplomatic lifting for this lame administration, while Obama made a **SPEECH**, got all of the credit, and won a PEACE PRIZE!!

We should all see this for what it is: a statement from the global community of exhilaration at having back a United States that wants to talk and engage productively with other nations, rather than unilaterally pursue our interests, especially militarily. The many crimes of the Bush administration need no restatement here. But it’s clear from reactions all over the world that basically the entire planet is elated at the new course Obama is taking.

Bear in mind that this does NOT have to do with Obama as a celebrity, or as The One, or any of that idiotic stuff. I’m quite certain that if Hillary Clinton had won this election she would have charted much the same course on the international scene, and drawn much the same reaction. I think that that tiny Norwegian panel represented many hundreds of millions of people all over the world in wanting to recognize and honor America simply for turning our backs on the Bush era by electing Obama.

I’ve said already on this site that I don’t think Obama deserved this award. I still don’t. But the more I think about it, the more I think I understand the spirit in which it was awarded.

I think this award was strictly a middle finger pointed at GWBush, who has happily dropped off the face of the earth. The Ofraud certainly did nothing to “earn” the Nobel, but many seem to forget that he didn’t award the prize to himself. He was the recipient, not the giver. All the animosity should be point at the Nobel committee, not at the great one. However, knowing the mindset of the right wing of republican party (as if they actually have a mind) they’re using this award as a chance to crap all over someone who, at least in this case, doesn’t deserve it. Maybe for other things, but not this.

In any case the Nobel award has painted 0 into a corner, since by accepting it, his views on foreign policy has to be affected to a certain degree. In other words, the extra troops into Afghanistan are out; bombing Iran is out; invading Pakistan is out; whatever we’ve got planned for South America is out, and so on and on.

Maybe, just maybe, the Norwegians had this in mind all along.

BREAKING POLL

58% Say Politics Behind Nobel Awards, Up From 40% Last Year

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

The Nobel committee has just shown these ass-wipes how asinine they have looked for more than two years!

I think this award was strictly a middle finger pointed at GWBush, who has happily dropped off the face of the earth..

Oh, that’s a *really* good reason to give that shill an award. When will the world move on? Chimpy McFlightsuit isn’t president any more. And that goes for the right-wing windbags all over the world, too–WJC isn’t president, either.

It is small wonder this planet is so screwed up. We have children running things instead of real adults.

I think the Nobel Prize is an honor for the President, he was very gracious about accepting it.

To add to His titles: Thee One, POP (Prince Of Peace)POTUS (Potentate of Tranquility and Universal Serenity). All hail!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/2279718315_e7e9efe7e3.jpg?v=0

Great collection of citations & vids, American Girl. This latest Grand Award has transported me to Weisenheimer Heaven.

well we have established that a man who essentially doesn’t even like americans was (sorta) elected president and now the left sided nobel committee gives their stamp of approval on internal politics. let them mind their own business and elect someone who has really done something. how about the name of a soldier killed in iraq? that would be a nice start. or the names of many others who actually risked their assets and life for a greater causee. howe nobel committee please put out whatever you are smokng and get real. i feel i like have first row tickets at the theatre of the absurd.

Ok, Prime, if you are not here to inflame, consider how you start off with your post

We should all

You can, you may, but we and should are really contrary. Not picking on you, but when there is the tale telling of how one can be delivered of any action to receive accolades based on possible future actions; perhaps presuming how “WE SHOULD” interpret anything from this administration is not going to do much in the way of responses other than earn some very heartfelt backlash for telling people what they “should” do.

This is how you feel, and you are entitled to your opinion. I disagree and don’t think in anyway this is how the Nobel Prize for Peace was intended, nor do I believe for a fleeting moment that the world over is enamored; and even if that were true, the world doesn’t get to “politik” on our turf. What the world thinks, becomes secondary to how Americans are treated by their government, IMHO.

Well, here is the danger of all this blind adulation. The Pocket Obama…

According to its creators, “It is an unofficial requirement for every citizen to own, to read, and to carry this book at all times.”

Not so different from Mao’s “Little Red Book”

The book’s phenomenal popularity may be due to the fact that it was essentially an unofficial requirement for every Chinese citizen to own, to read, and to carry it at all times during the later half of Mao’s rule

So, where are we heading with all of this anyway?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/01/24/introducing-pocket-obama-anthology-obama-quotes

Maybe Norway was having a little fun with a tongue-in-cheek moment to show us Americans how absurd it was to elect Obama and his non-record to begin with! Indeed it is a mockery of the country as much as the president. I feel like we are in some giant reality TV nightmare……..

Thanks for the reasonable response, Katmoon, I appreciate that. I didn’t mean “we should” in any sort of absolutist way. I think any cursory examination of global polling will make clear that the world really does like Barack Obama, and that the world really did not like George W. Bush. Does that automatically mean that Obama’s foreign policy is correct and Bush’s wasn’t? No. But it means a lot. America’s interests are surely served by having good relationships with our allies, and the ability (and willingness) to talk to our adversaries.

O boy, Doc–the collected wisdom of fratboy Cliche Czar Jon Favreau as filtered through a teleprompter and the lips of Thee One and as transcribed and edited by some devoted Obot–can’t wait to be the first kid on my block to get me one–revolutionary stuff.

This is great. Love watching NQ and the rights heads explode….

Someone else–sorry, whoever you are, since I can’t remember–made the most important point about this award going to Obambi. The most frightening thing is that, perhaps, O’s inability to make any decision about Afghanistan might have been prompted by some knowledge that he was in contention for this award. Then, if that is the case and even if it is not, how dare the committee play politics in trying to shape our policy. We basically now have a neutered POTUS, one who can’t decide to send troops even if it might be the best thing because, after all, he will be more worried about how will it look for a Peace prize winnter to be the actual CIC of an army.

Maybe he will go all Ghandi on us and do some fasts and heavy thinking and praying to get us some world peace while our soldiers die in Afghanistan (and only my greatest respect for Ghandi–I just hate people who fancy that their spoiled asses can even come close to that kind of greatness).

who’s heads are exploding?

Those 70-80% of people who reacted honestly Friday are waking up now and burying their heads in shame that they dared say a word against The One. They have the shakes. They throw up in their mouths a little. They look around for someone to blame. Ah–the right wingers made me do it.
Prime Obot–your gut reaction was right. He doesn’t deserve it. Don’t try to rationalize. He doesn’t deserve it.

I am halfway expecting somebody to wrote a chronicle of his day to day life and when there is an Obama direct quote… it will be in red typeface so that people reading will know to pay special attention to those words. Just really baby steps from where we are already.

Stodgie,
Great comment. Totally agree!

Considering that there were all out petitions against the Bush/Blair nomination in 2002, there is no way that Obama didn’t know about his nomination months in advance,too.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/302184339

http://www.petitiononline.com/nobel369/petition.html

Oh, they are informed when nominated. He knew, which also means he’s playing games with peoples lives. That’s why he didn’t announce Afghan plan before his award. Can’t wait to see what he does now.

Yes, whether he knew and was in on the award, or whether the committee just knows that he is plastic and they can shape him… either way, it works out to be the same for us. We have a symbolic leader. A country which has become a symbol of what it once was… led by a man who is a symbol of what me might become. Brilliant.

poor thing. Is this all you can keep repeating?

…we know, kinda’ hard to talk about the issues when your Koolaid Omaker sucks at everything.

Swedish journalist claims Obama Nobel jackpot

Published: 9 Oct 09 17:06 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/22570/20091009/

While the decision to award US President Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize has been received by widespread surprise, one Swedish journalist is toasting the Norwegians after winning 50,000 kronor ($7,177) betting on the outcome.

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Peter Lindholm, a journalist working on the free Swedish newspaper Metro, tipped Obama for the prize after reading the line up of artists booked to perform at the gala concert in the Oslo Spektrum arena on December 11th.

“As soon as I saw the artists, a penny dropped,” Lindholm told the Resumé newspaper.

The line up, which includes a slew of Obama favourites, and is set to be hosted by close ally Will Smith and his wife Jada Pinkett Smith, was all that Lindholm needed to write up an article for the paper predicting the US president to emerge as the winner.

The enterprising hack decided to back up his hunch with hard cash and wagered 1,000 kronor on the Nobel committee plumping for Obama, despite the fact that when nominations closed for the prestigious prize the former Illinois senator had only been in office for a number of weeks.

Barack Obama’s status as a rank outsider, with names such as Bill Clinton, Afghanistan’s Ghazi din Muhammad and Colombian freedom fighter Piedad Córdoba tipped for the prize, was reflected in the odds of 50-1 given to Lindholm.

“50,000 kronor. A pretty good commission,” Lindholm said to the newspaper.

While Lindholm enjoys the fruits of his labour, the chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee chairperson Thorbjørn Jagland was left to explain the surprise choice.

“Obama receives the Nobel Peace Prize for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples…The Committee endorses Obama’s appeal that ‘Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.’”

Peter Vinthagen Simpson (news@thelocal.se/+46 8 656 6518)

LOL exactly.

My comment got lost somewhere.

HELP!

Well, it was a Nobel Prize for Acting.

LOL–the red-letter version of the Orthodox O Scriptures! The braille version can feature Thee One’s words embossed in velvet . . .

I find it puzzling that all criticism of the NPP committee’s choice for winner is laid at the feet of Republicans and “right-wingers”. It’s as if the belief is that all Democrats worship the dear leader. Perhaps it should be a requirement that we publish our party affiliation along with our comments.

When voting “democrat” for most of my long life, I was shocked to learn this year that the Democrat Party had become the socialist party of America. When did that happen?

When did it happen that Democrats put personality before Country? When did Democrats turn love for country into hate for America? When did Democrats turn away from our Constitution? When did “words” become more important than action? When did it become a generality that Democrats cannot think for themselves, therefore all the criticism about the NPP had to come from Republicans?

Country First (D soon to be I)

Peter Lindholm, a journalist working on the free Swedish newspaper Metro, tipped Obama for the prize after reading the line up of artists booked to perform at the gala concert in the Oslo Spektrum arena on December 11th.

The line up, which includes a slew of Obama favourites, and is set to be hosted by close ally Will Smith and his wife Jada Pinkett Smith, was all that Lindholm needed to write up an article for the paper predicting the US president to emerge as the winner.

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http://www.thelocal.se/22570/20091009/

“a statement from the global community of exhilaration at having back a United States that wants to talk and engage productively with other nations”

No, this is a statement from a small group of European elitists, and does not indicate a “global community of exhilaration.” Don’t try to tell me that a few people on a committee in Norway have ANYTHING to do with how someone feels in Iran or Africa.

“But it’s clear from reactions all over the world that basically the entire planet is elated at the new course Obama is taking.”

How is this clear? This is not clear at all! In fact, there is absolutely NO indication of this whatsoever. The world did not vote for Obama for the peace prize, a select few did, with decidedly left-leaning European sensibilities.

You live in a leftist bubble. A bunch of elite Europeans does not the world make. Al Quaida just recently put out a statement mocking Obama – he’s not made any headway there, meanwhile, his drones have been bombing innocents in Pakistan, so they’re not happy.

As for AFRICA, his mother continent, many Africans were so enamoured with Bush over his aid to Africa, they actually made clothing with Bush’s face printed on it. I saw it in a newscast. Bush wasn’t as universally hated as you think he was.

Personally, I get the heebie jeebies over this award. I have this rotten feeling that Obama’s stance of appeasement is going to have very DIRE consequences, and I’ve heard more than one person say that Obama is probably going to be the instigator of W

“a statement from the global community of exhilaration at having back a United States that wants to talk and engage productively with other nations”

No, this is a statement from a small group of European elitists, and does not indicate a “global community of exhilaration.” Don’t try to tell me that a few people on a committee in Norway have ANYTHING to do with how someone feels in Iran or Africa.

“But it’s clear from reactions all over the world that basically the entire planet is elated at the new course Obama is taking.”

How is this clear? This is not clear at all! In fact, there is absolutely NO indication of this whatsoever. The world did not vote for Obama for the peace prize, a select few did, with decidedly left-leaning European sensibilities.

You live in a leftist bubble. A bunch of elite Europeans does not the world make. Al Quaida just recently put out a statement mocking Obama – he’s not made any headway there, meanwhile, his drones have been bombing innocents in Pakistan, so they’re not happy.

As for AFRICA, his mother continent, many Africans were so enamoured with Bush over his aid to Africa, they actually made clothing with Bush’s face printed on it. I saw it in a newscast. Bush wasn’t as universally hated as you think he was.

Personally, I get the heebie jeebies over this award. I have this rotten feeling that Obama’s stance of appeasement is going to have very DIRE consequences, and I’ve heard more than one person say that Obama is probably going to be the instigator of World War III. Would not surprise me one bit.

how come there has been no mention of who actually nominated him. does anyone know who did this?

This is one of the best commentaries I have read outside of NQ lately…from Robin of Berkely at American Thinker:

http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/436781.html

To put it more bluntly, does Obama have the potential for inflicting evil on us? Or, if he’s a puppet, are the ones holding the strings malevolent?

These may be the most crucial and urgent questions of our times. Is Obamaphobia a legitimate reaction to an angry president with a vendetta, surrounded by psycho czars? Or is the imagination running amok?

Given that I have a stack of books on my desk about evil, let’s take a look at how the experts define it.

Dante: Evil is the “sins of the wolf;” an inner black hole so vast that nothing will fill it.

Psychologist Philip Zimbardo, The Lucifer Effect: “Evil consists in intentionally behaving in ways that harm, abuse, demean, dehumanize, and destroy innocent others — or using one’s authority and systemic power to encourage or permit others to do so on your behavior.

Philosopher Hannah Arendt: She coined the term the “banality of evil,” after Nazi mastermind Adolf Eichmann was pronounced normal by psychiatrists.

Psychiatrist M. Scott Peck, People of the Lie: “Evil people are chronic scapegoaters.”

St. Augustine: Evil is “an essential nothingness.”

Ralph Waldo Emerson: “An absence of light; shade; no essence.”

Goethe: Evil is “to render invisible another human consciousness.”

Baudelaire: “The Devil’s cleverest wile is to convince us he doesn’t exist.”

John Milton: “A tortured soul who makes others dance to the music of his own despair.”

But to discern evil, we need to go beyond the guidance of the experts. We must decide with our own eyes, ears, and nose, whether a person passes the “stink test.”

Humans possess an extraordinary sixth sense — our intuition. St. Jerome called intuition, “synderesis:” an infallible God-given ability to distinguish between good and evil.

Yet, we’re told not to trust our gut because it’s not nice to be judgmental. In these politically correct days, where everybody is good, even terrorists, we’re supposed to dismiss our intuition, shove it underground, lest we offend anyone.

Thus, if Obamaphobia gives us insomnia, headaches, or the heebie jeebies, it’s all in our heads. We’re being paranoid.

But isn’t this how the Soviets dealt with dissidents? The leaders labeled them paranoid, and then had their fiendish psychiatrists forcibly drug, shock, and hospitalize them.

As the expression goes: you’re not paranoid if someone is following you.

Criminologist Gavin De Becker, in his seminal work, The Gift of Fear, urges us to never ignore our intuition. Most of the time, victims sense that their attacker is a threat but ignore this inner knowing.

De Becker’s wise words:

Can you imagine an animal reacting to the gift of fear the way some people do, with annoyance and disdain instead of attention? No animal in the wild, suddenly overcome with fear, would expend any of its mental energy thinking, “It’s probably nothing.” . . . We, in contrast to every other creature in nature, choose not to explore — and even ignore — survival signals.

I think that deep down most of us know who is good and who is evil — who will bring joy and who will usher in disaster.

Read the entire post. Bravo Robin.

SPAMMED AGAIN! sigh.

“Our Father, who art Obama,
Hallowed be thy Name……”

An almost silent coup, CF.

Whenever I think… wouldn’t it be nice to just be one of the blissfully ignorant bots who just mindlessly believe in hope and change? Sometimes it seems that would be better to have been lobotomized by the kool-aid so as to not have to know the truth. Then I read the various bot comments here, and realize what a blessing it is to have the gift of reason and to be able to think and decide for myself.

That is sealed for fifty years unless the person who nominated him comes forward. I’d sure love to know. I think it would be embarrassing.

Well, it certainly wasn’t the family of the fly he squashed.

Should Obama authorize more troops to Afghanistan, would the Committee then rescind the award?

And, as posted in an earlier thread, while Hillary was brokering peace between the Turks and Armenians, 0zer0 and Meshill were meeting with the Girl Scouts.

This is not a joke.

For that he’s been nominated for the “Orkin Pest Prize”. THAT one he’ll likely turn down rather than attend the ceremony in Newark, New Jersey.

I assume the requisite ganstra rappers will be there screaming about bitches, ho’s, killing cops and whitey.

scuse me? A man who hasn’t done a thing, much less for peace, who accepts this award is despicable. Now who paid you to blog that comment? Axlerod’s paid internet blogging company based the the whitehouse? obama is a joke. He hasn’t done a thing and will not do a thing. But you know that. You just blog what you are told to blog so you can get a paycheck. This is dishonor and disgrace no matter how you spin it for a paycheck. How do you live with yourself? Ya think we’ll just go along with what you say? Everyone, and I mean everyone all over the world says this guy is deplorable for accepting this. I guess affirmative action awards are the latest fad.

As I wrote in a now long forgotten thread, Obama’s speeches may be proof that he can channel Le Petomane, and I’m not quite sure how such audible contributions of wit and wisdom could be transcribed. Perhaps they could be, or have been, recorded on I-Pods, you know, like the one given to the QoE.

I didn’t know bullshit was worth that much till Norway gave Obama 1.4 millon for taking a shit in the WH.

When recognition and honor are bestowed upon those who have not earned such accolades, we do not celebrate – period. Instead we criticize and deplore such honors as illegitimately bestowed and, if accepted, illegitimately received.
Such is the case with President Obama’s recent award of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. Twelve days after the President took office he was nominated. Since then President Obama has done nothing to earn this prize. Even so, he has been honored by a Nobel Peace Prize committee chaired by a prominent socialist leader in Europe. Without question, this award reflects the President’s distinctly socialist political philosophy – a philosophy that remains quite popular throughout Scandinavia and Europe. Likewise, it is likely a statement of how much socialists in Europe disliked the former President and serves to express their relief with Obama’s election and agreement with his politics.
This practice of receiving undeserved reward has become commonplace in the U.S. over the last thirty years.

However, there is another unique characteristic of this President that has never been experienced before – namely, Obama’s political orientation is clearly socialist. Since taking office he has done everything within his power to dismantle the market-capitalism orientation of the U.S. and has steadily extended central government control and regulation over a growing portion of the “commanding heights” of the U.S. economy. For instance, he has established a pay czar over the salaries of bank executives and dramatically extended federal control and ownership over banks. He has also assumed management of the nation’s largest automobile firm and has dictated the terms of reorganization for another. The administration also owns the world’s largest insurance company and is pursuing control of 20% of the national economy by taking over U. S. health care. Likewise, despite assurances to the contrary, President Obama is attempting to increase the tax burden of all citizens, particularly higher income citizens, and has championed any number of schemes that would serve to redistribute the wealth of the nation from the richest to the poorest sectors of the economy.

I assert that this award is an affirmative action award which favors his candidacy over more qualified applicants by virtue of his race and socialist politics.

However, what I would have hoped more than anything else is that President Barak Obama would have had the common decency to decline this award and in so doing acknowledge that its bestowal upon him is premature and completely devoid of merit – particularly in comparison to the accomplisments of other candidates. Moreover, I would like to think that the President possesses a modicum of pride and self-respect and would never want to benefit from an unearned and undeserved award like this.

Unfortunately, this “President-who-would-be-King” accepted the award and will travel to Europe to receive it. To his credit, he has acknowledged that he does not deserve the award. However, despite this obvious acknowledgement on his part, he will take it.
I would like to say that I am surprised at his decision to receive this prize, but I am not. This man’s pride, avarice, and arrogance have mushroomed throughout the political campaign and during the early months of his presidency.
Truly this is an embarrassing and shameful moment in the history of the United States and the U.S. presidency. It communicates to every citizen and the whole world that image, ethnicity, mystique, and rhetoric count for more than sacrifice, labor, risk, accomplishment and ethical compassion when it comes to the recognition of merit. The award of this once-important prize to President Obama is deplorable. His acceptance of the award is outrageous. The message communicated to the citizens of the world with the award of this prize is disheartening, and the value of this once-vaunted prize has been completely diminished.

In reflecting upon this sorry state of affairs and the President’s willingness to accept gain he did not earn I am reminded of a verse from Proverbs 16:18 ,“Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.” I predict that nothing good will come of this award for either the President or the nation.
I join millions of other U.S. citizens in hanging my head in shame over this travesty.

http://www.naplesnews.com/blogs/veritas-libertas-edward-wimberley/2009/oct/09/nobel/

Unfortunately, it appears that this year’s legitimate Nobel Laureates as well as past recipients are the real losers here because they’ll be unfairly diminished by the foolish choice of Obama.

I heard that one of the favorites to win was Morgan Tsvangirai of Zimbabwe who persevered despite brutal beatings, attempted assassination and a rigged election, only to emerge as one of the major leaders of that country. He is a very admirable and brave man who could have used those winnings for the benefit of his impoverished country. I can only imagine how he must now feel.

I sincerely believe that Obama’s undeserved win will, in a twist of fate, prove to be a curse for him.

Yes and she’s off circling the globe again and making peace with Russia et al. Where’s Barry? Watching sports on his big screen TV and munching on finger food prepared by lowly caucasians. She should have won the peace prize.

And supposedly on Thursday he cancelled a planned meeting with Gen. McChrystal set for Friday.

DITTO!

Watching is apparently what you do best. A sad bot.

does this mean he is actually going to do something now?

Thanks for another intelligent, reasoned, challenging response. I have to go out now (taking my little girl out to a major pumpkin patch today) but I will respond later in the day.

That could actually make things worse.

Perhaps it was the venerable Rev. Wright.
And as to the world showing some sort of affirmation of Obama? Remember it was 5 Norwegian guys who did it. That’s what comes from eating too much herring. Looks like it dulls the brain.

From Peggy Noonan:

“The members of the committee have also put the young American president in a terrible place. They make it look like all the talk of “The One,” the heartthrob of the European elite, the darling of the international left, is true. They make him look prefabricated and inauthentic, an empty structure held up by essentially silly people. Which puts him at a disadvantage in his own country, because Americans don’t really like it when flaky European politicians tell them how they ought to see him or the world.”

Spirit … shmirit … my arse … the whole thing is absurd.

It was most likely Jimmy Carter who nominated him, but it could have been anyone in his entourage who was qualified to do so.

Yeah, looks like Obama’s very image is exploding with this very award, since his unaccomplished self is now so glaringly in view. This is the quintessential “the-emperor-wears-no-clothes” moment!

Excellent round up, AGI! Here’s my two cents:

I noticed that yesterday Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met with Turkish and Armenian diplomats at the signing of a historic agreement to establish diplomatic relations and open borders after a century of enmity. A century! The agreement hit a snag, though, and it took Secretary Clinton and other mediators about three hours to help broker a solution.

This woman helped iron out part of a century old conflict in three hours. (Now that’s my kind of ironing!) All in a day’s work.

Compare just this one achievement to wet rag limp noodle full of promise but done nuthin’ Barak Obama who won the Nobel Peace Prize last Friday. What gives here?!? America used to be the place where achievement was rewarded, now all you’ve got to do is say the right thing and be in the correct political position to be recognized as some kind of prodigy. It’s transparently ridiculous.

This is interesting:

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
“Man-o-man, I should’ve been paying closer attention. Guys, this is the Big Kahuna. The Star-Ledger, one of New Jersey’s largest papers, has endorsed Independent Chris Daggett for governor. The reasons for this endorsement are spectacular. Let’s have a read:”

The Star-Ledger today endorses independent candidate Chris Daggett and recommends his election as the next governor of New Jersey.

The newspaper’s decision is less a rejection of Gov. Jon Corzine and Republican Chris Christie than a repudiation of the parties they represent, both of which have forfeited any claim to the trust and confidence of the people of New Jersey. They share responsibility for the state’s current plight.

A repudiation of the two parties…now that’s good news!

For many decades, envious leaders and countries from all over the world have been tearing down the ramparts of the American fortress. For instance, the international jihad against mythical global warming, is just a thinly disguised effort orchestrated by lesser countries to cripple our nation so that they can compete with us in the world market. The world may be celebrating Obama’s coronation, but only because they know that he will ignore the interests of this country in favor of world popularity. So they’re buttering him up knowing fully well that he relishes gushing praise, no matter the source, more than straight forward and substantive discourse and recognition.

It is reasonable to assume (I’m sure Larry J. will back me up on this) that the intelligence entities of many countries have a full psychological work-up and profile of Obama, and I’m sure it ain’t pretty,…..for us. The best way to influence and manipulate a glutton is through his stomach, a pathological Narcissist like Obama is controlled through his ego. And I picture leaders all over the world working up a sweat cranking on their Obama ego pumps, and Sweden has just taken a strong lead in the inflate Obama’s head race.

What am I missing here? Why has Obama been propped up by the leaders of the democratic party, the MSM, and now the Nobel Peace Prize committee?
It seems that the Nobel Peace Prize committee has reduced themselves to a panel of judges at a beauty pageant. I suspect that there have been some beauty contestants who may have spoken about world peace. Perhaps they should be added to the list of nominees for the Peace Prize next time around.

OWG, “lisa” is merely a link to a timeshare business. These posts are pure spam, which is really annoying, since I just had a rather lengthy post gobbled up by the Ospama. I smell a spamspiracy.

Don’t compare Hillary with obama. She is miles ahead of him in brains and ethicalness.
obama is STILL an empty suit who will bring this country to it’s knees by next year by installing communism/fascism that benefits the rich and practices eugenics. I’m not making shit up. Better people than obama verify the truth in this and we can see it happening at record speed and you have blood on your hands for voting for him. Is the constitution still the law of the land? Not after obama gets through.

Prime Obutt:

Get you a piece of that pie.

Peace….peace…….peace….mmm.mmmm…mmmm

Stop the not spending more time with the family fest!

yeah but the spin is his kids entered the bedroom in the morning and said “Daddy you won”…and o na Friday…he let’s out the news on a Friday. His favorite day to dump a pile of crap on us.
such BS. like they did’t know ahead of time. freakin liars =obamas

I was watching Democracy Now earlier today & saw some comments made by Naomi Klein and Tariq Ali that were very critical of Obama’s Nobel Prize win.I was thrilled to hear that on this program, which had been drunk on the “kool-aid” for a while. One of the most interesting points about the Nobel committee was that in 1938 they couldn’t decide between Gandhi and Adolf Hitler, so they chose someone else who had actually worked for peace. They couldn’t decide between those two??? What, are they freakin’ crazy??? This said all I needed to know about this prize. Pffft on the NPP!

No one is making him look that way. He actually is prefabricated and inauthentic, an empty structure held up by essentially silly people and that’s a fact.

no. he remains “present”

Brodie, thanks for sharing the info. I had no idea they couldn’t choose between Hitler and Gandhi. Wow, I agree. It should have been a no-brainer.

Yeah; what s/he said.

(taking my little girl out to a major pumpkin patch today)

Huh?! your going to the White House?

If my spammed post ever shows up, I meant Norway, not Sweden. Sheesh, I better take a break.

The hits just keep on coming. Just when you think Obama finally gets his comeuppence via the IOC Committee, along comes these nitwits from Norway, and they give him the NPP. This man has been handed everything on a silver platter, from his upbringing in Hawaii, to his ivy league education, to his throw everyone off the ballot “win” in Illinois, to his bought and paid for caucus wins, his “selection” by the Democratic party, and finally, the millions $$$$$$, it took to win the election. Self made man, will never be a description used for Obama. Hillary did more in three hours for world peace than Obama will ever do. She is a woman of action, while this man ponders his navel. He can’t make a decision to save his life. Please someone, tell me that there will be some justice for this injustice in the future. If he is a man giving everyone hope, I feel like I am losing mine.

Maybe, just maybe, the Norwegians had this in mind all along..
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Nothing personal Donjo, but that is very funny. BS, but still funny.

If anything this will do nothing but point out what an empty suit he is. But that’s not how I took your meaning. The whole of ther ME region is suffering from a POTUS, who is masterbating away any power remaining in the O val office. No one can get a commitment to peace or anything else and expect him to be as good as his word. No I wouldn’t waste time thinking anybody could keep BO from making his appointed rounds.
He is has “Fear of Flying” written all over him.

not just a pumpkin patch its a major one in your area?

LOL your words make me laugh.
Take a major leap and go.

LMAO!

At least we have a clue about what’s wrong with young people these days!

Exactly Donna bigger & better and know it alls!
One thing
“The bigger they are the harder they fall”

It was probably his wife. She wanted a reason to be proud of Europe too.

He sure seems much like Gladstone Gander, doesn’t he?

count on it. Zero wouldn’t have it any other way.

Yeah, Martha, but a lot of the electorate has bought into the style over substance and format over content, which has been reinforced by corporate America hard-selling us junk for years on end that isn’t good for us and shouldn’t be purchased. Buy this s h i t and you’ll be popular and fawned over; vote for that empty-suit and you’ll be popular and fawned over just like him and as an added bonus, he’ll take care of you by paying your mortgage and making your car payments. No more worries–just drink the blue Kool-Aide.

Help! I’m in the perpetual spam spin-cycle. Can an administrator throw me a rope?

At least we have a clue about what’s wrong with young people these days!

Indeed, Donna, they’re being raised by clueless “adults”.

Stop the I’m-your-bestest-friend-in-the-world-parentingfest.

(Sorry, Donna, couldn’t resist.)

“When did Democrats turn away from our constitution?”.

When Soros bought the party, that’s when.

I read on another site that the paperwork to be filled out to be considered for the Nobel Peace Prize is sent out in September. This means that this was in the works either before the election or shortly after. I think that this was sent in by someone behind the scenes (Soros anyone?) just after the election (no one would believe a nomination for someone who lost) — and I think it was planned as a final topper to all the great things they were sure would have happened by now. I am sure that if things had worked as they had planned, the stimulus would have cut unemployment to under 8 percent, they would already have health care signed sealed and delivered and would be finishing up cap and trade. On the international scene, Isreal would have said “Of course we will stop increasing the settlements,” the Palestinians would have come to the bargaining table and a final solution to that problem would be almost done. Iran, having heard one of his great speeches would be talking with us about closing down their nuclear program, and China and Russia would be in the midst of joining us in disarmament talks. Then, just on schedule, Chicago would be named and the site of the 2016 Olympics and to top it all off and finish the year off right, Obama would win the Nobel Peace Prize. Unfortunately, none of those earlier things actually occurred, and Obama is standing with egg on his face for winning an award without actually doing anything.

That’s as good an explanation as I’ve seen. To think these are the same people who want to control our existences down to the very minutiae but don’t think about having a plan B or C in case plan A fails.

Invariably, the Great Pumpkin fails to appear, and a humiliated but undefeated Linus vows to wait for him again the following Halloween.

Poor Linus, he never intended to be the Obot-primus.

Linus: [to Sally as she walks away with everyone else] Hey, aren’t you going to stay to greet the Great Pumpkin? Huh? It won’t be long now. If the Great Pumpkin comes, I’ll still put in a good word for you!
[realizes what he just said]
Linus: Good grief! I said “if”! I meant, “when” he comes!
[calmly]
Linus: I’m doomed. One little slip like that could cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by. Oh, Great Pumpkin, where are you?

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My son just informed me that my house would a revolving door of children for the next ten years, as they as they come and go like the tide.
I said ” Not on my account”, I hear you about parentfest!

You guys are killing me!

Keep up the pithyfest!

(in My best Ron Wesley voice)
All I can say Donna is you are bloody brilliant.

Happy Sunday to all!

LMAO

I get your drift all too well, Teak.

What you said!

And Happy Sunday to you and yours.

Watching some of these videos reminded me whY I quit watching those channels since the Primaries, I forgot just how annoying Mika “my Dad and Bro work for the Obama camp, but I won’t mention that when I slam Hillary daily” Brzezinski is.

Is it going to be called the O-pocrypha?

The world likes alot of the other countries leaders, so I guess they should all get awards for being liked? Especially if they took over forleaders the world did NOT like? No that would be stupid,and make the Peace Prize meaningless. Just like giving an Award to someone in office less than 2 weeks, who didn’t have a lifelong or even a couple years track record on actually working to better anyones lives but his families and rich friends. I don’t believe IF Hillary was POTUS she would have been nominated 2 weeks after being sworn in , BUT IF she was, SHE at least has a track record of DECADES of working for womens rights and peace (loke Ireland)

Also NOT to be picky…well maybe I am, but I disagree with your statement “America’s interests are surely served by having good relationships with our allies, and the ability (and willingness) to talk to our adversaries” when it comes to Obama’s deeds, Maybe he is willing to talk to our adversaries, but he is hardly scoring points with many of the Countires that have a long tradition of being our allies, as a matter of fact, he seems IMO to being ruining many of our relationships with our allies to make nice with our foes. Just the fact he was awarded the Peace Prize the same week he is the first POTUS in 30 years that refused meet with the Dali Lama when he is in DC, because he wanted to please China speaks volumnes to me.

Thanks for this news. I hope it happens over and over in state after state and city after city. Throw the two dens of corruption out the window.

Speaking about one of our fav nonbiased “political experts” on CNN, did you see George steph LAUGHED at Donna B for saying the NPP was “well-deserved”?
DONNA BRAZILE: It is well-deserved because after eleven days…

STEPHANOPOULOS: (Laughing) Well-deserved?

BRAZILE: C’mon, George. I am a forward-looking, optimistic person, and the President has, in my judgment, he is, it is not only well-deserved, but he must also earn it. George, in eleven days, President Obama overturned many of the policies that much of the world disliked. He ended, banned torture, he proposed closing out Gitmo Bay…

WILL: You’re mentioning Gitmo?

BRAZILE: Yes, yes, it’s a proposal, and he has to work with members of Congress and states to get it finally closed. He closed secret prisons, CIA prisons across the globe. And he reversed a global gag rule. So, yes, in eleven days he committed a great…

STEPHANOPOULOS: Donna went even farther than the President.

After that, the entire panel laughed.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/11/stephanopoulos-laughs-when-brazile-says-obamas-nobel-prize-was-well-d

Now there is a man of peace. Great points too. Lyn.

Katmoon, What the world thinks, becomes secondary to how Americans are treated by their government.

Obot you are delusional to say this

Hillary Clinton had won this election she would have charted much the same course on the international scene

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Hillary Clinton is scary smart, BO he’s just scary. As part of the deal, she had turn over her roledex, as the only numbers BO knew by heart was Tony Rezko’s and Bill Ayers.

Global polling? Is BO running for some elected office of the world or is he POTUS and as Katmoon rightly points out?

Hello again everyone. First, quick comments to some of the above commenters:

Yes, it was a “major” pumpkin patch. The Half Moon Bay Pumpkin Festival is a pretty big deal here in the Bay Area, with rides and a Haunted House and ponies and etc etc. Incredible fun for a 4 year old.

And for those of you who saw fit to respond to that comment by talking about how my daughter is probably badly raised because her father voted for Barack Obama: I love my daughter more than life itself, would never make such a comment about someone whom I do not know, and I find your hate-cult mentality beneath contempt. Even the fact that you would find such commentary amusing speaks volumes. I hope at least some of your community members here are ashamed of you.

Now, on to Hillary-or-Bust’s intelligent comments:

“a statement from the global community of exhilaration at having back a United States that wants to talk and engage productively with other nations”

No, this is a statement from a small group of European elitists, and does not indicate a “global community of exhilaration.” Don’t try to tell me that a few people on a committee in Norway have ANYTHING to do with how someone feels in Iran or Africa.

Well, yes and no. Certainly a few Norwegian liberals made this decision, and they cannot be said to speak for the global multitudes.

On the other hand: quite clearly, huge portions of the world absolutely love the guy. Here’s some data from a few months ago:

http://awesome.good.is/transparency/web/0907/trans0709stampofapproval.html

Bottom line: he’s loved pretty much all over the world, except the Middle East, where (unsurprisingly) anything American is still viewed with great suspicion. I doubt these numbers have changed all that much since then.

Anyway, I think the Norwegians were clearly speaking for a good portion of the world in awarding a prize whose meaning can only really be read as a repudiation of Bush-era U.S. foreign policy and an affirmation of the sorts of priorities that Obama has been espousing since he started campaigning for the presidency.

“But it’s clear from reactions all over the world that basically the entire planet is elated at the new course Obama is taking.”

How is this clear? This is not clear at all! In fact, there is absolutely NO indication of this whatsoever. The world did not vote for Obama for the peace prize, a select few did, with decidedly left-leaning European sensibilities.

I’m going to grant you this point. I was over-stating. To my knowledge, there hasn’t been a lot of polling on this yet, so I have no basis to write what I did.

You live in a leftist bubble. A bunch of elite Europeans does not the world make. Al Quaida just recently put out a statement mocking Obama – he’s not made any headway there, meanwhile, his drones have been bombing innocents in Pakistan, so they’re not happy.

I live in a leftist bubble? That’s amusing. I thought this site was filled with Hillary fans, um, like you? She is every bit the leftist as Obama, which is to say, not very much. They’re both centrist Democrats. If anything, true leftists (I’m not one, but I spend plenty of time reading them) consider Obama a corporate-influenced sellout who is bitterly disappointing them in all kinds of ways. This isn’t an opinion; it’s a fact. He isn’t nearly as popular among serious progressives as he is among centrists, and never has been. Neither is, or was, Hillary, for that matter.

As for AFRICA, his mother continent, many Africans were so enamoured with Bush over his aid to Africa, they actually made clothing with Bush’s face printed on it. I saw it in a newscast. Bush wasn’t as universally hated as you think he was.

Actually, Africa is one of the only places on Earth where Bush actually did some good (his AIDS program was very powerful, and actually worked), so I’m not surprised by this point you raise, and I believe you.

Personally, I get the heebie jeebies over this award. I have this rotten feeling that Obama’s stance of appeasement is going to have very DIRE consequences, and I’ve heard more than one person say that Obama is probably going to be the instigator of World War III. Would not surprise me one bit.

Ridiculous. Who is he appeasing? And what would you have him do otherwise? Is he appeasing Iran? Would you have him bomb them? To anyone educated about these issues, such a course would be sheer madness: it would kill thousands of innocent Persians, torch the global economy, strengthen the hand of the ayatollahs, and only delay their nuclear program by a few years.

Is he appeasing North Korea? Even more insane to propose any direct military action. Is he appeasing the Palestinians by pressuring Israel to stop expanding the settlements in Palestinian territory? I’m Jewish, have extensive family in Israel and consider the settlements a moral atrocity, so you’ll get no quarter from me there.

So…Hillary-or-Bust, you seem intelligent and a writer in good faith, so I’m genuinely curious: how would you have Obama conduct his foreign policy differently than he has? And what do you think he should do in Afghanistan? I’m just waiting for him to make his decision about troop levels there; I know that here at NQ, whatever he does will be greeted with derision. I’m just looking for folks here to take a policy stand for once in advance, so we can have some benchmarks by which to judge the guy over time.

And she even released her RECORDS to prove she’s scary smart. Where are That Ones records? Why hide them if they show you’re half as brilliant as you think you are.

Stop the hiding of the documents fest!

“If anything, true leftists (I’m not one, but I spend plenty of time reading them) consider Obama a corporate-influenced sellout who is bitterly disappointing them in all kinds of ways. This isn’t an opinion; it’s a fact. He isn’t nearly as popular among serious progressives as he is among centrists, and never has been.”

I have historically been a “progressive” and dislike Obama for these very reasons. I am glad that many progressives (in the non-Beck use of the word) are waking up. However, many of my liberal friends/acquaintances here in LA still do not know enough about Obama’s real actions to be critical in the way those on the left WHO PAY ATTENTION are.

So yes, I do think there is a “leftist bubble” – these are people who follow the liberal talking points but don’t actually do a lot of reading or research on their own. They are pro-environment, pro-gay rights, etc (all good things) but utterly uninformed about what Obama has really been up to.

Most of them would be appalled to find out that Obama gave billions to Brazil’s oil company for off-shore drilling- but they aren’t informed enough to know about it, and are so immune to Obama criticism that they would be skeptical if I told them.

This leftist bubble includes some foreign friends of mine, who don’t bother to read the news and have no freakin’ clue what American heartland people are really about. Some of them are in fact downright biased, prejudiced and judgmental about regular Americans, and don’t seem to get that I am from the midwest and happen to be from the heartland, despite living in a big city now.

“how would you have Obama conduct his foreign policy differently than he has? And what do you think he should do in Afghanistan?”

I was greatly disappointed in Obama’s response to the protests in Iran after their rigged election. To me, he expresses weakness and spends too much time apologizing for America. I don’t agree with his rhetoric that America has been wrong to get involved in other nation’s business. Were is not for America, Europe would not have the peace and prosperity it has had for so long to be able to afford their little socialist utopian states. We pay for their defense with our American dollars and military men and women.

I’m not a hawk or a Republican, but I think there’s a middle ground between Bush and Obama – Obama has gone way too far left in his international affairs.

As for Afghanistan, either sh*t or get off the pot. If we’re there, then commit the troops we need to do the job right. Otherwise, pull out. None of this half-ass waffling that Obama does.

I am serious when I say Obama could be what allows WWIII to start – not because he means to, but because he will weaken America too much and the rogue nations will be emboldened and step out of line with him in power.

I may have been liberal all my life, but I’ve never been a naive dove.

Ferd, I tried to post a relevant article earlier today 2x but it won’t go through…try looking on American Thinker; the writer’s name is Robin of Berkeley; she wrote a brilliant article on 10/1 titled “Sympathy for the Devil”. Too bad it wouldn’t translate here but read it because it’s just what we’re talking about…Robin is a new discovery for me at least…a recovering Liberal psychotherapist. Not an easy place to be in Berkeley.

Wow. That is an amazing article. Intense. Thanks for sharing it.

Yes, I can believe they (have) had such diabolical plans. Soros’ financial planning didn’t come across last year either. Apparently he lost a bundle. However, unlike many, he has options.

I keep thinking of the ramifications of the Bush family, before he left the WH, buying up 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay which is evidently sitting on an immense water plain. Then Soros investing in Brazil…oil and land…and the Olympics going to Brazil…there has to be a common denominator.

I wrote a long reply to this which got eaten by the spam filter, I guess. The short version:

To those of you who saw fit to respond to my comment by making fun of how badly my daughter must be being raised: I have nothing but contempt for you and everything you stand for, and I think anyone on this site who isn’t a complete hate-cult obsessive would be embarrassed to read them.

To Hillary-or-bust: I respect your reasonable response and thank you for it. And I agree that a handful of Norwegians hardly speak for the world. Here’s what the world thinks of Obama, as of a few months ago:

http://awesome.good.is/transparency/web/0907/trans0709stampofapproval.html

I think obviously the award was intended to applaud America in general for an election that turned decisively away from Bush unilateralism and to encourage Obama to continue pursuing more dialogue of all kinds. If you think he has been an appeaser, I’d really like to know where, and what you would have him do differently? Bomb Iran? Hardly.

Anyway, thanks for your response, I enjoyed reading it. Hopefully this response will survive.

To those of you who saw fit to respond to my comment by making fun of how badly my daughter must be being raised

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You are one twisted SOB. First, near as I can read, not ONE person made comments as to how your child was raised. As to you saying it was a MAJOR patch…ya asked for it.
Speaking for my self, I simply thought you were taking her to the white house.
I think Ferd said you are a clueless adult, which by your comments is a factual observation and does provide a clue with what’s wrong with young people today, as Donna observed.

Nowhere was your child directly demeened in anyway. So apart from being clueless, you also should be ashamed of yourself for having to use your daughter in defense of your poor choices.

You obviously voted for BO for other reasons than him being qualified having experience or being of solid moral charecter.
Perhaps you should explain to your daughter why her daddy would vote for an immoral and indifferent human, who would rather look the other way while OTHER 4 YEAR OLDS WERE FREEEZING THEIR ASSES OFF.
Own your shitty candidate has now translated to OWN your shitty president.
I hope you and your daughter had a blast at Half Moon bay. Do they have a pumkin catapult contest?

Your long reply is up there, I already posted my long response to it (scroll up to see).

Teak, this particular bot IS twisted as you’ve written, but he is different from most bots who intentionally taunt and flip childish nyaa-nyaas in an attempt to provoke a fight. Those bots don’t actually have a clue what they’re defending or promoting, they just like to engage in insult contests.

This particular fool ACTUALLY BELIEVES the preposerous drivel created by the Obama propaganda factory. The authors of the risible Obama talking points must go to Herculean efforts to keep from busting their guts in laughter when imbeciles like Prime Obot faithfully disseminate their obviously preposterous bumper sticker notions.

Don’t waste your time with PO, he’s a mindless convert, and he has just enough intelligence to justify the rediculous within the limited realm of his own cozy little world. Waking him from his trance may be too much of a shock for him. Cruel reality may be more than a pampered pumpkin perching puffball can endure, and it would be heartless to crush his rose colored glasses and bar-b-que his unicorn.

H-or-B:

Of course Iran’s was a rigged election, but what all informed observers other than American neocons agree on is that an American president can only hurt the reform movement there by too aggressively condemning the current regime. Please be fair. Pretty much everyone who knows anything about Iran agrees that Obama handled Iran just right. Apologizing for America? When? Please cite something (anything) specific. Another commenter on NQ wrote earlier that “we can all agree that Obama doesn’t like America very much.” What utter BS. Because he acknowledges America’s mistakes? Funny — once a Democrat is in office, all I hear from Rush and Beck and Hannity and all the rest of the Republican slime chorus is how stupid Americans are for choosing such a horrible president, and how there has to be another revolution and so on. And it’s suddenly okay to cheer for America to lose an Olympics bid and boo and hiss an American president for winning a Nobel Prize.

But it’s Obama who doesn’t like America very much. What utter nonsense.

Onofre, you’re in that Ferd-like category so often, of just spewing out mindless insults whenever an Obama supporter raises his or her head, but I do perceive a few left-handed compliments in this rant, which I will take in the spirit of (very) grudging respect in which they were clearly given, and thank you for it.

I voted for Obama for several reasons.

First, after eight years of Bush, and with McCain, a near-raving-lunatic, running to succeed him, I would have voted for almost any Democrat I can think of to keep McCain out of the White House (this is the McCain, mind you, who insisted for years that we had to move our military resources out of Afghanistan (where Al Qaeda was then actually centered) and into Iraq, where the 9/11 terrorists supposedly were, and is now just as insistent that we must expand our military presence dramatically in Afghanistan, now that Al Qaeda is actually in Pakistan. Idiot.) For instance, had Hillary run a better primary campaign and defeated Obama (which she easily could have done, if she’d only devoted enough resources to Iowa, just for instance, instead of letting herself get sandbagged there), I would have not just voted for her but also donated to her and worked for her, just as I did for Obama. I did not think Obama was absolutely essential to saving this country from utter Republican ruin; I believed an intelligent, clear-thinking Democrat was essential. I’d like to think that in this I was in agreement with most people on this site, although clearly there are some pure right-wing Republicans here, along with the Hillary progressives who just can’t forgive Obama for winning.

Having said that, by fairly early in the primaries, yes, I had decided that Obama was the one I most supported. Here, obviously, I part company with all of you. I think he is smart as hell; most of you presumably do not. I think he is a solid mainstream progressive; most of you seem to think either that he is a raving socialist or a right-wing corporate sellout (diametrically opposed views that nobody here seems to mind). I agree with virtually every policy prescription he has offered; I have no idea what most NQers actually think about specific policy, since so much commentary here seems to revolve around just condemning him on a personal level.

Yes, he has disappointed me on all kinds of fronts, where I wish he had acted more forcefully or effectively. There are no politicians who will not do this. Bill Clinton made enormous, world-changing mistakes. He and Hillary completely fumbled health care early in his presidency, just for instance.

Anyway, I’m rambling, but I’ll just finish for tonight by saying thank you to the folks who have emerged and shown a willingness to talk about real issues. I’ve repeatedly in the last few days come back to my computer to find messages here from people who had real responses to my commentary, corrections that forced me to acknowledge errors, thoughts that made me in turn think. That is why I keep coming back to this vigorous and very entertaining website even though I know that almost everyone here feels visceral dislike for me just because I support this president.

So…onward. I think most people here are ultimately Democrats (or at least progressives) at heart, and that means we’re on the same side. Let’s win, for the sake of our country and our children, regardless of who is in the White House (and as I keep saying, Hillary is going to be next, as long as Obama himself is successful).

Last comment: no idea why a “major pumpkin patch” has anything to do with the White House. Doubt I want to know what this reference means.

the ramifications of the Bush family, before he left the WH, buying up 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay which is evidently sitting on an immense water plain.

Maybe the world’s largest remaining aquifer for fresh water. That can mean only one thing, and it’s not that the Bush’s like Paraguayans… no, water is going to be the next oil. Not might be, or could be… the Bush’s doing this means it will be. This is a family that has given us 2 of the last 4 Presidents. But, now we are getting somewhere. It isn’t just look at what the wannabe socialists are doing to us. No, look at what the world elite are doing to us and look how the wannabe socialists as well as the neocons have both become useful idiots.

Martha, thank you. that is an excellent article. I read the piece, she speaks from a point of view as both a professional observer, and from her own personhood. She delivers self trust right back to the reader, where it belongs. Thanks for this share.

Teak:

The mindless rantings of Prima Bota are merely a reaction to reason, which it desperately lacks. It talks a good line, though, through appeals to irrelevant facts not in evidence in the first place; accuses us of being cultists when it it the one being led, sheeplike, to the abattoir; constantly uses normative statements which it does not apply to itself; never answers questions directly; argues illogically using appeals to false authority and ad populum appeals items such as polling data when trying to make a nonexistent point. It also fails to recognize (and has never admitted) that it is the entity which used ad hominem abusives in the first place to which all of us then responded. It is a whiner and a sanctimonious, self-righteous, self-absorbed sycophant that is paid by the post, $0.05 per crock.

This last exchange is case in point. No one said a thing about its daughter. This is another ruse by it to both change the subject AND use words never written to beat us over the head with. Prime Obutt is the nastiest of obamabots and should have a troll category all its own.

I keep thinking of the ramifications of the Bush family, before he left the WH, buying up 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay which is evidently sitting on an immense water plain.

Yeah, I have very little tolerance for Shrub, either. For some, including the current squatter, the WH is but another rung in the ladder in some shadow organization, which apparently has a great deal of influence in both parties, backing one or the other as the situation dictates and always playing one against the other.

True — I think that Noonan was just trying to play nice because her overall column was pretty brutal.

Well said everyone. A Nobel Peace prize for you all!

Stop the you hurt my feelings fest when you come to this site just to agitate.

Ferd, I’ve found real people on this site with whom I can discuss real issues. Haven’t you noticed how many of your NQ peers treat me differently now? I am sorry that you are incapable of participating in anything other than hatefests, but sparring with you doesn’t interest me anymore. Bye.

Not that you are intellectually curious or aware, but it is not the last comment. Sorry you are clueless and want to remain that way.

everyone here feels visceral dislike for me just because I support this president.
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oops you missed the point. Nothing worse than an “oh poor me ” TOOL. Don’t let the facts hit you on the way out.

I wish your daughter much success and happiness.

Oh God, if we could only believe that “Bye” was serious. But, what is to trust? Prime Obot and Obama are of the same arrogant mold.

“Pretty much everyone who knows anything about Iran agrees that Obama handled Iran just right.”

Are you kidding me? Who are these mythological people? I was watching the Twitter feeds on the Iran protests with much interest. A great deal of the LEFT was on there, asking “Where is Obama? Why isn’t he saying anything?”

Obama had an opportunity stand up for democracy, but he did not. I don’t care what your mythological “experts” think about his response to that situation, but I personally did not like it, nor did a lot of others (on the left even!)

“And it’s suddenly okay to cheer for America to lose an Olympics bid and boo and hiss an American president for winning a Nobel Prize.”

That wasn’t about America “losing.” It was about Obama’s hubris in thinking he could waltz over to Copenhagen and demand the Olympics based on the force of his personality. And no wonder he thinks he can do that, with enablers like the Nobel Peace Prize Committee on his side.

Opposing Obama isn’t about hating America. Quite the opposite. And the new “revolution” isn’t ultimately about Obama. It’s about stopping Wall Street bailouts and the rape of our tax-base to give money to Goldman Sachs and big investment banks. You’d think the left would be just as upset about the bailouts as the right is, considering the left supposedly hates corporations and corporate welfare. But in my view, the left is filled with hypocrites who just want “their side” to win and won’t hold up Democratic politicians to the same high standards they hold Republicans to.

Curiouser and curiouser.