Are you kidding me? Who are these mythological people? I was watching the Twitter feeds on the Iran protests with much interest. A great deal of the LEFT was on there, asking “Where is Obama? Why isn’t he saying anything?”

Obama had an opportunity stand up for democracy, but he did not. I don’t care what your mythological “experts” think about his response to that situation, but I personally did not like it, nor did a lot of others (on the left even!)

“And it’s suddenly okay to cheer for America to lose an Olympics bid and boo and hiss an American president for winning a Nobel Prize.”

That wasn’t about America “losing.” It was about Obama’s hubris in thinking he could waltz over to Copenhagen and demand the Olympics based on the force of his personality. And no wonder he thinks he can do that, with enablers like the Nobel Peace Prize Committee on his side.

Opposing Obama isn’t about hating America. Quite the opposite. And the new “revolution” isn’t ultimately about Obama. It’s about stopping Wall Street bailouts and the rape of our tax-base to give money to Goldman Sachs and big investment banks. You’d think the left would be just as upset about the bailouts as the right is, considering the left supposedly hates corporations and corporate welfare. But in my view, the left is filled with hypocrites who just want “their side” to win and won’t hold up Democratic politicians to the same high standards they hold Republicans to.

Curiouser and curiouser.

I wish your daughter much success and happiness.

Stop the you hurt my feelings fest when you come to this site just to agitate.

I keep thinking of the ramifications of the Bush family, before he left the WH, buying up 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay which is evidently sitting on an immense water plain.

Yeah, I have very little tolerance for Shrub, either. For some, including the current squatter, the WH is but another rung in the ladder in some shadow organization, which apparently has a great deal of influence in both parties, backing one or the other as the situation dictates and always playing one against the other.

The mindless rantings of Prima Bota are merely a reaction to reason, which it desperately lacks. It talks a good line, though, through appeals to irrelevant facts not in evidence in the first place; accuses us of being cultists when it it the one being led, sheeplike, to the abattoir; constantly uses normative statements which it does not apply to itself; never answers questions directly; argues illogically using appeals to false authority and ad populum appeals items such as polling data when trying to make a nonexistent point. It also fails to recognize (and has never admitted) that it is the entity which used ad hominem abusives in the first place to which all of us then responded. It is a whiner and a sanctimonious, self-righteous, self-absorbed sycophant that is paid by the post, $0.05 per crock.

This last exchange is case in point. No one said a thing about its daughter. This is another ruse by it to both change the subject AND use words never written to beat us over the head with. Prime Obutt is the nastiest of obamabots and should have a troll category all its own.

the ramifications of the Bush family, before he left the WH, buying up 100,000 acres of land in Paraguay which is evidently sitting on an immense water plain.

Maybe the world’s largest remaining aquifer for fresh water. That can mean only one thing, and it’s not that the Bush’s like Paraguayans… no, water is going to be the next oil. Not might be, or could be… the Bush’s doing this means it will be. This is a family that has given us 2 of the last 4 Presidents. But, now we are getting somewhere. It isn’t just look at what the wannabe socialists are doing to us. No, look at what the world elite are doing to us and look how the wannabe socialists as well as the neocons have both become useful idiots.

I voted for Obama for several reasons.

First, after eight years of Bush, and with McCain, a near-raving-lunatic, running to succeed him, I would have voted for almost any Democrat I can think of to keep McCain out of the White House (this is the McCain, mind you, who insisted for years that we had to move our military resources out of Afghanistan (where Al Qaeda was then actually centered) and into Iraq, where the 9/11 terrorists supposedly were, and is now just as insistent that we must expand our military presence dramatically in Afghanistan, now that Al Qaeda is actually in Pakistan. Idiot.) For instance, had Hillary run a better primary campaign and defeated Obama (which she easily could have done, if she’d only devoted enough resources to Iowa, just for instance, instead of letting herself get sandbagged there), I would have not just voted for her but also donated to her and worked for her, just as I did for Obama. I did not think Obama was absolutely essential to saving this country from utter Republican ruin; I believed an intelligent, clear-thinking Democrat was essential. I’d like to think that in this I was in agreement with most people on this site, although clearly there are some pure right-wing Republicans here, along with the Hillary progressives who just can’t forgive Obama for winning.

Having said that, by fairly early in the primaries, yes, I had decided that Obama was the one I most supported. Here, obviously, I part company with all of you. I think he is smart as hell; most of you presumably do not. I think he is a solid mainstream progressive; most of you seem to think either that he is a raving socialist or a right-wing corporate sellout (diametrically opposed views that nobody here seems to mind). I agree with virtually every policy prescription he has offered; I have no idea what most NQers actually think about specific policy, since so much commentary here seems to revolve around just condemning him on a personal level.

Yes, he has disappointed me on all kinds of fronts, where I wish he had acted more forcefully or effectively. There are no politicians who will not do this. Bill Clinton made enormous, world-changing mistakes. He and Hillary completely fumbled health care early in his presidency, just for instance.

Anyway, I’m rambling, but I’ll just finish for tonight by saying thank you to the folks who have emerged and shown a willingness to talk about real issues. I’ve repeatedly in the last few days come back to my computer to find messages here from people who had real responses to my commentary, corrections that forced me to acknowledge errors, thoughts that made me in turn think. That is why I keep coming back to this vigorous and very entertaining website even though I know that almost everyone here feels visceral dislike for me just because I support this president.

So…onward. I think most people here are ultimately Democrats (or at least progressives) at heart, and that means we’re on the same side. Let’s win, for the sake of our country and our children, regardless of who is in the White House (and as I keep saying, Hillary is going to be next, as long as Obama himself is successful).

Of course Iran’s was a rigged election, but what all informed observers other than American neocons agree on is that an American president can only hurt the reform movement there by too aggressively condemning the current regime. Please be fair. Pretty much everyone who knows anything about Iran agrees that Obama handled Iran just right. Apologizing for America? When? Please cite something (anything) specific. Another commenter on NQ wrote earlier that “we can all agree that Obama doesn’t like America very much.” What utter BS. Because he acknowledges America’s mistakes? Funny — once a Democrat is in office, all I hear from Rush and Beck and Hannity and all the rest of the Republican slime chorus is how stupid Americans are for choosing such a horrible president, and how there has to be another revolution and so on. And it’s suddenly okay to cheer for America to lose an Olympics bid and boo and hiss an American president for winning a Nobel Prize.

But it’s Obama who doesn’t like America very much. What utter nonsense.

This particular fool ACTUALLY BELIEVES the preposerous drivel created by the Obama propaganda factory. The authors of the risible Obama talking points must go to Herculean efforts to keep from busting their guts in laughter when imbeciles like Prime Obot faithfully disseminate their obviously preposterous bumper sticker notions.

Don’t waste your time with PO, he’s a mindless convert, and he has just enough intelligence to justify the rediculous within the limited realm of his own cozy little world. Waking him from his trance may be too much of a shock for him. Cruel reality may be more than a pampered pumpkin perching puffball can endure, and it would be heartless to crush his rose colored glasses and bar-b-que his unicorn.