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Fox Not a News Station?

Talk about back to the future. Here I thought we were looking at a repeat of the lousy Presidency of James Earl Carter and Barack Obama goes ahead and starts emulating Tricky Dick Nixon. Let’s give Obama his due–he’s a better talker (as long as TOTUS is working) than Nixon and he certainly looks better on TV (no sweaty upper lip). On the positive side he shares a good trait with Tricky Dick, he loves his two daughters. But that’s the end of the good news.

Nixon’s paranoia and failure of leadership created an atmosphere of anger and vitriol that resulted in a genuine “Enemies” list. Nixon demonized the Washington Post and the New York Times. Apparently Barack “Barry Soetoro” Obama is as thin skinned and craven as Richard Nixon. Obama is going after Fox News. But this is not a new development. It started in August.

Bill O’Reilly flagged it early on:

The Obama team of clowns and bullies upped the ante over the past week. Here’s Rahm:

I am no friend of Fox. I was fired as a Fox News analyst at the direction of Rupert Murdoch (at least that’s what I was told by a friend who spoke directly with a senior Fox lawyer). I am on the record criticizing Fox for its cheerleading of the Bush Administration. And I was on Keith Olberman’s show bashing the Bush Administration for its own war against the CIA (such as the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson). I don’t like bullies. Period. I despised the Bush White House for its bullying of those who challenged its’ wrongheaded policy in Iraq and its failure to commit adequate troops to the fight early on.

Well, Obama has now crossed a line. Attacking Fox News is stupid and immature. That’s not leadership, that is petulance. Did the Bush White House ever go after MSNBC and Keith Olberman? No. And Olberman has been every bit as incendiary on the left as Sean Hannity and Glen Beck on the right. Olberman’s rantings does not mean that MSNBC is not a news organization. It may be a biased news organization but it does news.

Attack Fox is wrong but, make no mistake, Rupert Murdoch is grateful. Why? Obama’s attacks are buying Fox credibility and support.

Allahpundit over at Hot Air has a great piece along these lines:

This seems so obviously correct that I feel embarrassed for not having figured it out sooner.

The rationale of the White House offensive against Fox News has been a topic of much puzzlement lately. Is this just the White House lashing out? Are they trying to rally the base?

But I think Mike Allen and Josh Gerstein nail the real explanation in their story today: The White House is working to prevent stories born on Fox from crossing over into more widely-viewed media. Most Americans still haven’t heard of Van Jones, for instance; and the strategy is now all about containment…

Allen and Gerstein:

“We’re doing what we think is important to make sure news is covered as fairly as possible,” a White House official told POLITICO, noting how the recent ACORN scandal story started because Fox covered it “breathlessly for weeks on end.”

“And then you had a couple days of breast-beating from The Washington Post and The New York Times about whether or not they were fast enough on the ACORN story,” the official said. “And it’s like: Wait a second, guys. Let’s make sure that we keep perspective on what are the most important stories, and what’s being driven by a network that has a perspective. Being able to make that point has been important.”…

“They’re not really a news station,” Axelrod told ABC’s “This Week.” “It’s not just their commentators, but a lot of their news programming if you watch, it’s really not news….The bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way, and we’re not going to treat them that way. We’re going to appear on their shows. We’re going to participate, but understanding that they represent a point of view.”

“It’s not a news organization so much as it has a perspective,” Emanuel said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “More importantly, is to not have the CNNs and the others in the world basically be led in following Fox, as if what they’re trying to do is a legitimate news organization.”

I encourage you to read the rest here.

Good on Fox. They are covering some key stories the rest of the media prefer to ignore. NoQuarter was one of the very first blogs to go after ACORN. The late (but great) Nancy was a dogged researcher and writer on this topic. It was only when Glen Beck finally started paying attention to the issue that it got some traction. Just one example of Fox doing news (though Beck failed to acknowledge the work we did, but such is life).

I do not begrudge Fox having a bias. It does have one. But the notion that CNN and MSNBC (not to mention ABC, CBS and NBC) are somehow devoid of bias and simply pursuing truth is delusional. What is truly alarming is that the White House is possessed of a delusional we last saw when Tricky Dick wandered the halls of the White House. Someone needs to slap some sense into Obama, Axlerod and Emmanuel. Acting like Dick Nixon is not “Presidential.”

  • layla

    THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH – but the blind lemmings ignore the fact how biased msnbc is – It’s blatant – how unbelievable that no one….no one in the media has the balls to point this out, besides FOX.
    Journalism is dead.

  • jwrjr

    All of the MSM has a bias. MSNBO, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC are all biased towards the ObamacRats. Ozero’s problem is that Fox isn’t biased towards him. He can’t tolerate dissension.

  • Seriously Sick of Obama

    You know that old saying..its the economy, stupid..well with obambi…its the EGO, stupid!! Anyone who says anything about him becomes a target. I am waiting on our country to start making political prisoners of most of us and calling us terrorists to shut us up…Its now the socialist, stupid, IMHO! Obami should have came with a BUYER BEWARD WARNING!!!

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I don’t have a problem with Fox’s opinion shows leaning right – these are balanced out by the left-leaning shows on MSNBC.

    So it blows my mind that certain so-called “progressives” would actually try to shut down Fox just because it leans right. (I’m talking Obama’s hardcore liberal fans.)

    I am making a point of going to the Fox News website daily now. Did not do that before the feud started. But I take great issue with a government trying to silence dissent. I will stand up for freedom of the press by supporting Fox.

    I’m also watching Fox News streams to give them more traffic. I encourage everyone to do the same.

  • Seriously Sick of Obama

    You know that old saying..its the economy, stupid..well with obambi…its the EGO, stupid!! Anyone who says anything about him becomes a target. I am waiting on our country to start making political prisoners of most of us and calling us terrorists to shut us up…Its now the socialist, stupid, IMHO! Obami should have came with a BUYER BEWARE WARNING!!!

  • DeeLee

    I just listened to Glenn Beck, who showed that the WH is trying to impliment and fund a program of net neutrality, which translates into complete government censorship. That means this this site will not only disappear, but all subscibers will be targeted as enemies of the state because of their opposition to Obama. What will you do?

  • tek

    Yah, MSNBC & CNN are not news stations, either. They’re Pravda.

    I see The One is having trouble raising money for the Democratic Party. That’s the big reason they wanted him.

  • Diana L. C.

    Thanks to Bill O’Reilly, I can now hope to see the POTUS on t.v. some day making the “quotation marks” with his fingers when he claims, “I am NOT a dunderhead!”

    Nixon was a crook; Obama is a dunderhead (and much worse).

    Seriously, I feel very strange having to watch Fox. I am sorry, but I thought that station was the worst during the start of the Iraq War, its embedded journalists acting like cheerleaders, forgetting any objectivity and using the personal pronoun “WE” when referring to the soldiers they accompanied, as if they were actually part of the military campaign. I personally believe that all reporting of war should never be under the military’s jurisdiction. Finding a way to report war has been a problem for media especially since Viet Nam.

    And Larry is right, Fox WAS a cheerleader for Bush. And he is also right, MSNBC is a cheerleader for Obama. CNN is now nothing but a station, I think, that does most of its “reporting” by staging battles of the talking heads, and–as Jon Stewart pointed out–cutting the discussion off before anyone really gets any “news.”

    Yes, Larry, you and the rest of the staff at NoQuarter need far more credit than you get.

    But I am left with watching Fox, carefully avoiding those who still creep me out (Hannity, for example), and carefully watching only a few people on CNN.

    Local newspapers are little help. I don’t have time or money to get a subscription to major papers out of my city–and even the major papers are now clear partisans.

    But–I will go to sleep tonight dreaming of the day I see the “I am NOt a dunderhead!” speech by Obama.

  • tek

    Hillary or Bust: I agree with you. Whatever Fox News is, it’s protected by free speech. What a jerk Obama is. He must feel really threatened by Fox.

    The thing here is, if Obama would support rational policies that benefit all Americans, it wouldn’t matter what stories Fox or any other station runs. He’s just a bust as president.

  • Seriously Sick of Obama

    Sorry for the double post..I was trying to correct my grammar with BEWARE!..LOL!

    Larry..you are doing AMERICA PROUD!! KEEP WRITING bc we are looking to you as our news source..not TV or newspapers!

  • Ferd Berfle

    And you’re right on the money as usual, jwrjr.

    And thanks, Larry, for another timely skewering of the self-righteous left (and right, as the case may be). Anyone with half a brain can see what is going on. A simple acknowledgement is really all that is necessary. This Administration continues to insist on pissing on our leg all the while telling us it’s raining.

  • http://deleted BuzzisbackLatte

    Barry O’s pretendency – uh presidency – is now becoming laughable.

    Every week it’s what’s making Obama and Co stamp their widdle foot and cry, “They’re mean to me!”

    Problem is: FOX keeps exposing the underbelly of the Obama administration. It’s the stuff they weren’t prepared to have exposed because the nation was supposed to be in love with That One for more than a few months.

  • Ferd Berfle

    We do the same, since May, 2008, Hillary or Bust.

    I was under the false impression prior to all the the fawning, and swooning, and genuflecting over That One that the other networks were at least trying to make some sort of effort at real reporting. To my chagrin, they weren’t and when the chance for them arose to prove they weren’t, they started in on HRC, withe the bad-mouthing and wood-shed type comments.

    I will never watch CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, or ABC again, except for local coverage. I either watch BBC or Fox. The MSM has peed in their own Wheaties–they made it; they can eat it.

  • Ferd Berfle

    What I truly find amazing is Glen Beck. He wasn’t much on CNN but a loud talker. On Fox, however, he seems to have come into his own. He has this Administration by its shriveled gonads by using their very own words against them in a truly remarkable “smear” (LMAO) campaign against the twits who populate That One’s inner 7th-circle. Good for him for getting it right and thanks to Fox for hiring him.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Larry, thank you for covering this story and for giving us a place to vent. Your opinion matters all the more because you’re not a shill for Fox News.

    I’m another Formercrat who switched to Fox last year in May. They haven’t been afraid to take on Obamanation on subjects like Reverend Wright, Van Jones, etc.

    I checked in at Michelle Malkin’s site today and read the MoveOn.org is getting a petition to force Democrats to boycott Fox News and for prominent Dems to refuse to go on Fox News. I thought that was hilarious because Fox has the biggest audience and this petition will just pique the curiosity of more viewers. Some people were logging on to the petition site to sign as famous “Dems” like Mickey Mouse and Hugo Chavez.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Agreed. When they tried to spread rumors about him being a murderer, I was afraid it would shut him up. Instead Glenn came back swinging and got Van Jones ousted. In a former life he must’ve been a terrier.

  • sowsear

    Someone suggested that the real reason BO is going after Fox is to get them off topic. If Fox spends anytime trying to defend themselves and/or spending airtime noting how unAmerican it is to try to silence free speech, is less time spent focusing on the Obama agenda, etc.

  • requiredreading

    Dumb question, I know, in this age of technological savvy-ness, but how does one “watch a Fox news stream” – what exactly is a “news stream” as opposed to a web site? I’ll join the crowd to pump up Fox, if can figure out how to do it….

  • donjo

    There was a law suit some time ago that stated that Fox was, in essence, telling lies on its news shows. The courts ruled that there was no law that said they had to tell the truth. And it’s been all downhill ever since. The problem of left or right bias and promotion on the networks will always be there to some degree, as most people have a bias one way or the other.

    Shows that allow opinion to be allowed as fact have no business calling themselves “news” programs. I see enough of that on blogs. I think solving this could be achieved with a simple requirement that each program must be labeled as “news” or “opinion” and commentary should be strictly regulated, as well. And if they break the rule the FCC could simply ban them from the air – or cable.

    One would think that people could differentiate between fact and fiction or opinion, but I think that particular gene has been discontinued in the American public. It says something that a large part of the public gets its “news” from a comedian on a show that pulls the legs of ordinary news programs (on the left or right) on a regular basis – the Daily Show, with Jon Stewart.

    What a shame that we have to count on news from foreign sources/networks/the comedy channel to have an indication of what is really happening in the world. It amounts to trying to figure out which liar to believe.

    I think control of the media has been around or at least been attempted for as long as we have had a government. Part of life, I guess.

  • Ferd Berfle

    LMAO on the terrier. I do think that fits.

    I must say that never in my life would I have thought that I would be saying what I just did–the comment to which you responded. This world has been turned inside-out and upside-down. I am surprised but not unhappy. At least I had the presence of mind to actually listen. I don’t know if you can understand this or not but I’ve found myself becoming increasingly isolated from what is euphemistically called the mainstream. From outward appearances, it seems more like the lowest common denominator and I want no part of it.

  • Tammy

    Yeah, and look at all of the people in Obama’s administration who are turning out to be Marxists! Without Beck, none of us would have heard any of this stuff.

    Actually, the Fox NEWS is pretty good. And fairly neutral. You can’t get anything unbiased on the MSM news networks. They are cheerleaders for their Master Obama.

  • Ferd Berfle

    There is an answer–do your own research. I don’t believe everything on Fox any more than I believe a single thing coming out of the WH.

    I think control of the media has been around or at least been attempted for as long as we have had a government. Part of life, I guess.

    Yeah–and my former party bitched about it until they retook power.

    Sorry if I’m not with them on the sympathy bus because they immediately did the same thing they wrung their hands over previously upon taking power. Such is the two-wrongs-make-a-right attitude of the former Democratic party. They aren’t any better and have no room to call foul now against Fox. Screw them.

  • Jimmy J

    Good points, Ferd.

  • Tammy

    Larry:
    Thanks for calling out these liars. I’ve never seen such “teabagging” from the mainstream networks towards Obama.

    Fox News isn’t perfect, but at least they are TRYING to get the news right. And they are uncovering the corruption that the MSM ignores(ACORN, etc). They used to be more “right” leaning than they are now. At least that’s my opinion, having watched the network for many years.

    Larry, you should try to get on Fox News again. I bet you’d have an easier time than before, and America would certainly appreciate your POV!

  • jbjd

    Diana L.C., isn’t it amazing how carefully we have begun to discriminate between rhetoric and news? I remember back in the day – before the D primary in 2008 – when I turned on the 6:00 news every night. Now, I don’t even have a t.v.

  • Ferd Berfle

    OK, let me try this again, Tammy–That One is not a Marxist. I would have thought by now that with all my references to the line with the extreme right on one end and the extreme left on the other and placing the ends together to get Obama, I would have thought that would set off alarms with you. He surrounds himself with Marxists to placate his base. But make no mistake, he is a new breed of extremist, taking from either side as he sees an entry point into his own ambition. He isn’t about ideology but about himself. Who do we know who is like that who is also a head of state? Could it be Kim Jong Il? He’s no real marxist, either but a Despot.

    Get rid of the Cold War Communist vs. Capitalist–they have been long left behind as they’ve been co-opted by truly evil scumbags.

  • donjo

    It amounts to trying to figure out which liar to believe.

  • Ferd Berfle

    That won’t happen. While That One presents a boatload of problems, censoring the web isn’t one of them. You may as well put a finger in the nearest dike to stem an approaching dam breach. There are as many ways around that problem as there are opponents to his policies. A bit too much to handle, I’m afraid.

  • Lana

    That’s when I started watching Fox–when they were the only ones with anything decent to say about Hillary. I was nauseated by the sexism and barely-concealed hatred towards Senator Clinton that MSNBC and then CNN showed. I discovered that Fox was being fairer and went there. Obama’s whining about Fox looks weak and silly, but I guess there’s a reason for that.

  • Lana

    I can’t answer your question, but I can tell you it’s harder to do than it was a few days ago. This was posted at PUMAPAC:
    “Very rarely did we “communicate through the press anything that we didn’t absolutely control,” said Dunn.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347

    Well up until last week, for months now you have been able to get Fox News Live streaming over the Internet at many sites such as: http://www.zahipedia.com, and about 10 more. They were there until a couple of days ago at every one of these sites. Now they have all been scrubbed… since Beck talked about Dunn.

    Fox can still be seen on the internet here:
    http://www.tvpc.com/Channel.php?ChannelID=1520

  • oowawa

    Wow Ferd–this paragraph sounds like me talking to myself. I sure wasn’t expecting major philosophical changes at this stage of my life: “inside-out and upside down”–yep, that describes it. “I am surprised but not unhappy.” Yep, I’m sure happy to be on the outside looking in; let the kool-aid party continue without me.

  • Ferd Berfle

    oowawa:

    I was just typing, sort of stream-of consciousness when it occurred to me what had actually happened. We humans are adaptable and I merely adapted to the new paradigm (which by any other name is twenty cents). I’m living in a world of fools.

    That being said–and you’re spot on–I’m happy to be on the outside looking in.

    Ferd

  • Ferd Berfle

    The premise is unsound–I don’t believe in liars.

  • Lana

    That doesn’t mean he won’t try. I remember during the primaries that some of the more extreme anti-Obama sites were somehow mysteriously facing problems that pro-Obama sites weren’t. Some were shut down, some had to move because the ‘host’ wouldn’t host them anymore. I don’t understand how websites work, so maybe others with more knowledge can comment. Also, many people started saving screen shots because so many sites would be ‘scrubbed’ of news that was detrimental to Obama. I don’t put it past That One (love your name for him–so perfectly disdainful!) at all.

  • Peggy Sue

    I think at the very least, Fox News provides a counterbalance to MSNBC and CNN, which is far from being objective. The Fox Special Report with Bret Baier is a decent News Hour. And their nightly roundtable is good discussion. Do I agree with everything that’s being said? No. But it’s a good discussion with members, right and left, debating the news at hand.

    I have a hard time with Hannity’s spin but I appreaciate Greta Van S. I think she is as balanced as you can get. O’Reilly is a showman more than a news person. And Glenn Beck? The histrionics drive me wild but I give him credit–he’s talking about subjects [and putting names to those subjects] that other media outlets refuse to touch with a ten-foot pole.

    The more the WH whines, the higher Fox’s ratings go. The whole attack makes the President look petty and weak. He can’t make his mind up on the Afghanistan question but has no problem sending his henchmen to wage war on Fox News?

    Pathetic!

  • elizabethrc

    And Beck scores exactly the right tone when he talks about Obama’s attempts at belittling and censoring Fox and him. He laughs at him. Perfect, and so appropriate. Truth is, Beck knows Obama can throw whatever he likes at him because he doesn’t care what anyone thinks of him. He know who he is, what his shortcomings are and he’s learned to live with it. Further, the more incessant Obama’s entreaties to disenfranchise Beck and Fox, the more people are going to start asking why and when they start with the why question, they’ll begin to see the truth about how little is behind this president.
    How many important, life shattering events are facing the country and the world right now? Obama has time to play basketball and attac Fox. What does that tell you?

  • cathnealon

    When more than half the American citizenry doesn’t like your policies or programs any “opponent” you target will gain credibility and inevitable the moe you whine the more those numbers will grow. Americans may be apathetic but they hate whining and grown men acting like babies–I mean Emanuel and Axelrod on Sunday going after Fox was a joke–one that they apparently are not in on.So either BO should ‘man up’ or shut up.

  • cathnealon

    Sorry–typing fast, should be “inevitably the more.”

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Whats so funny about all this is we have a sly fox in the Whitehose you know what they say about a fox.

    Once a Fox always a Fox!

  • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

    Remember, I’m the one who signed up for the Obama newsletter under the name:

    Heywood JaBleauxme (which, if you sound it out sounds like a crude request for oral sex). Here’s the latest.

    From: “Mitch Stewart, BarackObama.com” To: Heywood Jableauxme

  • JRD

    Glenn Beck is a reformed alcoholic. He is not afraid of or intimidated by anyone. That is something the thug-in-chief probably never encountered before. Even if you do not agree with Beck`s politics you have to love that he is shoving the community organizers “Rules for Radicals” right in his face with his ridicule. I am sorry, I love it. With all of the dirty dealing we had to put up with in the primaries and the bros before hos crap, I am just loving Beck getting in THAT ONE`S FACE. I laugh my butt off every night. What`s the matter Barry? No one out there to fight your battles for you anymore?

  • Smart-Jazz-Just Me

    There is no longer any such thing as a “independent press” in thes country…. That died the day cable was born….

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Right there with ya, Lana. It was Greta’s interview with Hillary, then the respectful way the newscasters talked abt her, as well as the lack of sycophantic fawning over The One, that got me watching it.

    For abt the first three months or so, I kept saying, “I can’t believe I’m watching Fox News!” I had bought the liberal meme that Fox was horrible, and had NEVER watched it before that – compared to the “news” CNN or MSNBC puts out, I’ll take Fox any day.

  • ImaLlindatoo

    Well said. That is why I call Obama presideNot.

    And, the Dem’s have made another huge error. I started tuning in to FOX after watching Beck’s stories and knowing it’s worse than not getting anything news worthy from, my last resort, Headline, but that they all (as yo mentioned ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN)took to becoming an extension of Obama’s political arm and constantly giving Obama fluff stories and always trying to promote him, after their attacks, I was now forced to turn them on more regurlarly. And now, even hubby noted, I’m concerned that we seem to keep putting FOX on.

    They do bury themselves. They frequently put Weiner, the mini Rahm clone, who seems to have taken Obama’s Organizing 101 and they think his nastiness and control tactics are winning them points as their token Rep and he just makes me wince and turns me off like anything.

    My point? I really stayed away…dabbling occasionally last year with some of the shows, but now see I get far more information and coverage than any other network I’ve ever had on before. And now Dem’s trying to numb minds will be losing them if they too turn to FOX because of their behavior.

    Obama and his staff may want State run media like Communism, but he will find, the rest of our country does not. Worse, he’s making it harder around the world to talk of Democracy when they see the real Obama.

  • IndianaDem

    Virtually all media outlets in America are now owned by 5 huge corporations.

    In 1983 there were around 50 owners.

  • TeakWoodKite

    What a remarkable world it is.
    Critical thinking DEMANDS one does not accept anything at face value. (Such is life)
    AxelROD of all people understands how to AstroTurf the truth and his comments regarding Murdoch’s gig are meant to deflect and frankly, paint Fox as a bunch of NeoNazi skinheads, while Gibbs is on a first name basis with “Matt”.
    There is a scene from “Clear and Present Danger” where Jack is telling the president to treat ‘em as a “life long friend”… Give them no where to go, no news to report.”
    What is dangerous to BO that Fox News has?
    The other oddity about this is that during the primaries Hillary Clinton met with Rupert mono e mono. That these fools want to stick there collective heads in the sand and ignore Fox just shows they are running a fools errand. Fox is not the boogeyman and Rupert is not an a person to stand by and be made one, even if it does his ratings good.
    They just went past the Bush “fool me once” dimension into a dimension of the black hole of Astroturf.

    Obama taking a setup question from the daughter of a political operative is about as bad as the WH Communication Director being married to BO’s personal counsel.

  • ImaLlindatoo

    Great moniker. I thank goddess for NQ writers and LJ, too.

  • snosandy

    OMG! I remember that well. So Mr. Jableauxme is still getting correspondence from the Obama campaign, huh?

  • ImaLlindatoo

    Agree.

  • TeakWoodKite

    The MSM has peed in their own Wheaties–they made it; they can eat it.

    Isn’t the FDA looking into that?

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    L. O. L.

    The traditional rules haven’t applied for many years now. That old cliche “Don’t pick a fight with a guy who buys ink by the barrel” was clever in 1909, 1959, even 1989.

    This is 2009.

    The entire “war” with FNC is happening on cable (mostly on FNC) and online – mainly right-wing blogs. The media is so fragmented that the old 20th century cliches just aren’t good enough anymore. And take note of who is whining the loudest – dinosaur media like NYT, ABC and WaPo. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! They have no clue why they’ve lost market share for the last 30 years and they’re still clueless in their MSM beltway bubble.

    Right-wingers have howled about the “liberal media” for decades and now they’re pissy because they’ve gotten a taste of their own medicine.

    Claiming that the WH is scared doesn’t make it so. Right-wing hacks like FNC don’t get a free pass anymore. This is the new normal.

    Get used to it.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Ferd, Lana has a point about the scrubbing. I ground a hard drive to dust doing screen captures of information that was wiped. The other part of this equation that is even more important, an equally as insidious, is the manipulation of search algorithms. (h/t PM317).

    How far and long is one motivated to dig for the facts when you have to wade through all the pond scum to get to it? Mis-directing traffic is a form of bias and I dare say oblique censorship as well.

  • trixta

    I believe it was reported on cable news (?) that BO has done 22 fundraisers since occupying the WH compared to GWB who did 6 at this point in his presidency.

  • TeakWoodKite

    My comment was turned into a Nute. (It got better).

  • Tammy

    You may have replied to a post of mine in the past, but I tend to go back to work and forget to reply.
    I agree with you Ferd. WOW. Middle of the Road.

    Which is what Obama promised and never intended.
    This blog will be shut down, if Obama has his way, and this is one of the only blogs I’ve come to that people who have preconceived notions about each other have broken down the walls to talk to each other. Even if it hasn’t been civil, we still love our COUNTRY.

    Obama IS a Marxist. He was raised by one, fed by others, and surrounds himself by them.

  • cathnealon

    The ‘new normal’ is Chris Matthews tingle up his leg because of BO and Anderson’s on air teabagging jokes about the tea partiers–FNC may be getting a taste of their own medicine, I agree, but the medicine must taste pretty good going down with those off the chart ratings.

  • trixta

    He surrounds himself with Marxists to placate his base. But make no mistake, he is a new breed of extremist, taking from either side as he sees an entry point into his own ambition. He isn’t about ideology but about himself.

    Absolutely!!

  • TeakWoodKite

    For you Ferd.
    Some kinda paradise

    Tell me why are we
    So blind to see.
    That the ones we hurt
    Are you and me?

    That makes for 3 people sitting on the Group W Bench, Ferd and oowawa. Neat exchange, well said. Thanks.

  • samb

    http://www.breitbart.tv/olbermann-ad-touts-msnbc-supremacy/

    ALMOST THREW UP MY DINNER. BUT DIDN’T WANT TO WASTE A GOOD MEAL ON THIS JERK

  • sjc-tx

    Claiming that the WH is scared doesn’t make it so. Right-wing hacks like FNC don’t get a free pass anymore. This is the new normal.

    Get used to it….

    Oh yeah! Dissing the Constitution, dissent and free speech… YOU get used to it moron.

  • samb
  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “commentary should be strictly regulated, as well. And if they break the rule the FCC could simply ban them from the air – or cable”

    Throwing out the 1st Amendment?

    You could pack the Supreme Court with 9 Scalia clones and they would never allow such a ghastly policy. The FCC banning news stations — that’s disgusting.

  • Lana

    Excellent points, Peggy Sue. I just watched Greta. She had Karl Rove on who reminded us that That One (to borrow Ferd’s appelation) received McChrystal’s request for more troops on August 30. It’s absolutely inexcusable that TO has dithered on his decision so long but finds plenty of time to attack Fox.

  • Lana

    I’m with you, JRD!

  • Lana

    You might have more credibility if you spelled your own blog name right.

  • Pocahontas

    Obama is a narcissist. He just needs to be adored.

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “The more the WH whines, the higher Fox’s ratings go.”

    How about that? Rahm’s worried about whatever following Fox’s example because of their high ratings. So the WH drives up Fox’s ratings even higher?

    This all might just be payback by Van Jones. Some weird kind of communist payback where you punish people by increasing their profits.

  • FLDemFem

    Obama’s problem is that he has no political memory. Yes, Nixon complained and bitched about the NYT and the Washington Post..and look where it got him. The journalists from the Post took him down, with help from Congress. I know that we don’t have journalists like that anymore, but pissing off a major news organization is not a good idea. Just ask Richard Nixon. He did and paid the price for it. I am sure that there is much more than what was going on in Watergate going on in the Obama administration and it will come to light one day. I just hope Fox digs it out before the next national election. I doubt that any of the other news stations are interested in reporting anything detrimental to the Obama cabal. After all, they, Obama and the news corporations, are all owned by the same people.

  • Diana L. C.

    OOH!! OOH!! Has anyone done Bullwinkle the Moose yet? I’ll do that.

  • http://N/A breeze

    HAS ANYBODY NOTICED:

    THEY ARE AS AFRAID OF FOX NEWS AS THEY ARE OF
    SARAH PALIN!!!

  • donjo

    Agreed that’s it’s disgusting, but so is trying to pass opinion off as “news” or using a so-called news network to foist an ideology on a naive public. In other words, moving ever more toward a state controlled media, a la PRAVDA.

    I don’t know what the answer is, does anyone? As mentioned upstream, this world is something we are not familiar with any more. Unless the people who control the strings in this country have some serious wake-up calls, nothing will be done, as it suits their purpose to keep business as usual.

    And I’m not so sure pitchforks will do the job.

  • Hank

    Foxnews should hire Sarah Palin to do at least one show per week. Imagine the ratings!

  • jwrjr

    I am glad that you like the comment. I am also cynical – in the original use of the term. Anybody whoo tries to tell me what to think causes instant suspicion.

  • jwrjr

    Now if I could only spell (whoo?).

  • connie

    I really admire Sarah, as she is going right into the belly of the beast by going on Oprah. I wish her all the luck. I hope she makes mincemeat out of the Oprah.

  • Maggie

    This is the new normal

    Huh. Just as 9.8 unemployment is the “new normal”? Guess we have to get used to that, too, hm?

  • Diana L. C.

    So, I guess that for you the ends justify the means. If you don’t like your oponents’ tactics, use the same tactics against your oponent so you become just like your oponent. Now that is VERY sensible, I guess (to someone without any skills in logical thinking).

    In case you don’t realize it, there is also a place in the middle between right and left. Black and white/either or thinking is also illogical. Most people on this blog are NOT right wingers. We deplored the Bush administration as much as we do this one.

    So go “form” yourself on the left bank as long as you like. You still make no sense to us. And your wonderful, non-traditional “news” blogs or organizations (at least they’re news in your weak mind) care nothing for you at all. It’s all left propaganda, and it leaves out anything that you don’t want to know about. You’ve brainwashed yourself.

  • Diana L. C.

    Participating in the primary made me grow up fast in my discernment. I am amazed and a bit embarrassed that I had to reach this ripe old age to awaken to some major political truths. I’ve had to go back and rethink my whole life in terms of the political opinions I’ve had. It is amazing how life keeps on teaching.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    Go to http://www.foxnews.com – on the right sidebar you will see links to videos. Click on these to watch portions of Fox shows online. It looks like you can get most of the content and fewer commercials. The videos will stream one right after the other or you can watched selected clips.

  • TeakWoodKite

    There I was not wanting my country to fail in spite of this electoral nightmare…what was I thinking?

    No one out there to fight your battles for you anymore?

    .

    That is a loaded question.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I would not use streams that aren’t run off the Fox website – they may not be counted towards Fox’s viewership or website hits. Go to foxnews.com and watch their show clips directly from there to give them traffic.

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    NET NEUTRALITY is NOT the same thing as the fairness doctrine, which is what most conservatives are speaking of when they talk about government censorship.

    NET NEUTRALITY is a good thing. It means that ISPs or telcos have to deliver all Internet traffic without discrimination.

    Without net neutrality, a telco could decide to allow certain corporate sites to get “priority” traffic over smaller websites.

    I wonder if Beck actually used the term “net neutrality” or you are confusing this with something else.

    Go to eff.org – it’s a good resource on these sorts of issues.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I don’t know what the answer is, does anyone?

    Yes.

  • http://www.zoombits.de/batterien/ akku

    It will be a good opportunity for Sarah to be on Fox and convey the message to the people of USA. This will help her in the next election as well.lolz

  • Dan

    Will this site support Sarah in 2012? I am just curious.

  • don tufts

    larry since last june ive been getting and continue to get mail adressed “dear -uck” hampster has seen the actual emails as i forwarded to him.nothing like being on top of your mailing list by the whitehouse and the dsc along with several others.just to stupid to live i guess.

  • don tufts

    oops my bad i ment june of 2008.

  • don tufts

    this former dem and his better half will with as much energy and effort as we did proudly for HRC last year.we might not agree with her 100% of the time but her being one of us the everyday regular americans trumps everything else as i will not support or donate to any candidate from either party that has gone to one of the elite east coast schools,im done supporting people that think they are superior to the rest of us.last time i checked this country did not officially have a royal class.

  • KR

    Here is an Obama voter who has seen the light:
    (Language warning)
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd5_1256056612

  • lawnmower

    yes. though sometimes beck is annoying, i still love the guy. he does the one thing everyone else in the big media refuses to do: he consistently makes this admin appear ridiculous, incompetent, shifty, sycophantic, spineless…essentially shows them for what they are.

    the obot admin cannot man up. they cower in like wilting wilmas from beck’s brilliant sarcasm ’cause they know it is working…and it’s so damn on-the-money.

  • lorac

    He’s been closing his shows lately by saying ‘goodnight, Mrs. Dunn, wherever you are”. lol

  • lorac

    Beck cracks me up. He has a young man now, during every show, sitting next to a red (Batman Hot Phone!), waiting for a call from the administration to tell them that they’re saying something wrong. They won’t come on his program, so he’s making a joke out of making it “easier” on them to talk directly to Beck and let him know what’s “wrong”.

    Actually, it’s called the “Mao hot line”, referring to Dunn, who takes inspiration from Mao, who killed as many or more people than Hitler did. So they’re making it real easy for Dunn to tell them what they’re doing isn’t real news (ACORN, Van Jones, etc).

  • lorac

    Since the election is over, and Oprah took a HUGE hit in her ratings for coming out for BO, this may be Oprah’s attempt to pull back some of her previous viewers who left, the ones who didn’t like the AllObamaAllTheTime Obama as Messiah crap she had been doing. And since most of her viewers are women, it’s appropriate to have a female politician, to help lure the female audience back. I’ve never watched her show, but I’m guessing it won’t be adversarial, but a way for both women to help themselves….

  • foxy voter

    Larry you have it just right. Like Nixon, Obama has a glass jaw. Nixon used to say — LET ME MAKE ONE THING PERFECTLY CLEAR just before he told another lie and so does Obama. The only thing missing is the jowels.

  • rw

    “Get rid of the Cold War Communist vs. Capitalist–they have been long left behind as they’ve been co-opted by truly evil scumbags.”

    hear,hear

  • foxy voter

    Obama seems more comfortable fighting a war with Fox News than Afghanistan. But this is a double edged sword. The more he attacks Fox the more Dems will tune in to see what the fuss is about. A glass jaw and a heart of stone — I don’t think the Dem base has this in mind when they decided to vote for Hope and Change.

  • foxy voter

    I love Sarah Palin but I would like to see a Republican who is less divisive get the nod. The woman I would like to see run is Liz Cheney.

  • foxy voter

    Hank — Yes Sarah Palin would be a dynamite Republican pundit.

  • elaine

    Hillary received her jurist doctor degree from Yale

  • foxy voter

    I hear that Fox is now interested in hiring Pat Buchanan and and Lou Dobbs. When you add Don Imus, Tucker Carlson, and John Stossel all recent acquisitions–it seems like reporters who lean right know they have a home on Fox. And so do viewers who are sick of Wolf Blitzer, Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz.

  • don tufts

    i understand and when push came to shove she failed us by not staging a floor fight.she proved that the party was more important than the american people.

  • Clara

    Perhaps Obama and Gang see how skillfully Beck peeled the onion on Acorn so that a very convoluted scheme was easily understood by Joe and Jane Sixpack. They run the risk of Fox doing the same on other skeletons in the closet and they want to discredit them widely now before someone goes after that birth certificate!

  • getfitnow

    I stopped watching MSM a long time ago–way before the primaries. I did, however tune in to O’Rielly’s sit-down with Hillary and enjoyed it very much.

    I hardly ever turn on the TV at all, but I like the idea of giving them the traffic. I can put on mute and go about my business. I understand that Hannity regularly features Lanny Davis. Has had Willie Brown, Phil Donohue and recently Michael Moore.

    I’m bothered by this and the Rush L. affair. Charles K. noted that CNN found it necessary to fact check SNL but not “quotes” attributed to Rush L.

    I swear, we’re up-side-down.

  • getfitnow

    Bingo, breeze!

    It’s way too early, but I heard Rush L say–not that he was endorsing Palin–but he said look at who the media is bashing the most and that’s who they feel will be the biggest threat (to BO) in ’12.

    o/t Palin on Oprah next month.

  • Obamao

    And if she had won the floor fight, half of the Democratic Party would have fought her all the way to election day, thereby insuring a defeat.

  • getfitnow

    I saw a comment yesterday on another blog re: voting. The commenter said he/she would crawl naked through broken glass and AIDS-infected needles to vote against BO.

    I really hope this country doesn’t have to survive a BO second term. What will we look like afterwards?

    I will not vote for a race baiter. That seals it for me.

  • getfitnow

    I’d vote for Liz Chaney too!

  • getfitnow

    Has anyone seen this?

    From: Noah T. Winer, MoveOn.org Civic Action moveon-help@list.moveon.org
    Subject: Stay off FOX
    [Recipient name redacted]
    Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 2:05 PM

    Dear MoveOn member,

    All year, FOX has worked 24/7 to block President Obama’s agenda—repeating lies about “death panels,” promoting Tea Party protests, and whipping up fake political scandals.1

    Now, President Obama is fighting back. The White House communications director said FOX is a “wing of the Republican Party…let’s not pretend they’re a news network.”2 To draw attention to its biased coverage, President Obama will not appear on FOX for the rest of this year.3

    It’s about time Democrats stood up to FOX! Can you sign this petition asking Democrats to support President Obama’s stance by staying off FOX as long as he does? We’ll deliver it to Sen. Lautenberg and Sen. Menendez. Clicking here will add your name:

  • http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/10/21/the-obama-fake-fox-hunt/ Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » The Obama Fake Fox Hunt

    [...] NoQuarter, Larry Johnson makes sense: Good on Fox. They are covering some key stories the rest of the media prefer to ignore. [...]

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Ferd — a few months ago I would have agreed that we’re “fringe -ers”. Now, though, I see more and more people expressing our thoughts and concerns. I hope and believe there’s a ground swell of citizens shaking off the stupor. Opinions like ours are becoming more common and as we keep chipping away at the fraud and corruption, the ground is beginning to tremble from the stomping feet of the newly awakened.

  • beebop

    What I find interesting is that Sarah Palin has the guts to go on Oprah where she was obviously not wanted, but the President of the United States is afraid of Fox News and a difference of opinion. The guy has a glass jaw fer Christ’s sake ….

  • beebop

    Claiming that the WH is scared doesn’t make it so

    How right you are. If the WH wasn’t scared of Fox News, they would ignore them. Taking them on is just childish, foolish, petty and yes, a show of fear. Imagine any adult occupant of the WH being so small?

  • beebop

    That’s why they hate capitalism. They freaking down’t understand it.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    LOL! I missed that, but that is so hilarious! And they are so tone deaf they’d never get it. I remember someone called the local airport once to have them page “Ophelia Peters”. Wonder if she’s signed the petition.

  • Anon

    Yeah, and maybe Geraldo could go back to MSNBC and they coud lose another 100,000 viewers to fox.

  • ImaLlindatoo

    and, no periods after Laugh Out Loud lol

    But this is all the Obots have. They can’t respond to the issue, so they try to change the conversation or attack for their wrong doing.

    There heads are exploding and they can’t handle the truth.

    The only way they can is to not pay attention, then they can keep drinking the koolaid where it doesn’t react with reality.

    My sis told me a mechanic she’s known actually replied to her “well, at least we don’t have any more wars”. Wew! Isn’t he the aware voter?

  • ImaLlindatoo

    oops and I make a typo, THEIR (heads)

  • tf

    excellent clip!!

  • Woodhull

    Like a lot of commenters here have said (either on this post or others), I, too, couldn’t believe that I was watching FNC. Our household reviled them during the Bush years. But, if you’re smart, you can figure out pretty quickly who is being honest and who is in the tank. Granted, there were also times during the primaries when their Republican bias was irrational and at one point I sent them an email advising them to drop Coulter because I thought she was hurting their chance to become a news source of choice by Independents and party moderates.

    What I like most about FNC now is that they are not shrinking back from the attacks on them; apologizing or trying to make nice with the WH. Their response has been “bring it.” They are embolding (is that a word?) the rest of us to do the same thing with the ridiculous and pathetic obots who call us a racist horde. It’s a breath of fresh air.

  • kenoshamarge

    Right there with ya RRA. For months I was surprised at myself for watching FOX. Now it’s the only cable “news” I do watch.

    I still don’t care much for O’Reilly but Shep Smith beats the hell out of Wolf Blitzer any day. Plus the added benefit of not having a chance sighting of PrimaDonna Brazile.

    I never miss Cavuto or Brett Baier’s Special Report. I also watch Greta quite often. All of them are better and more balanced than anything on CNN or MSNBC. IMO

    And if you didn’t see this interview between Greta and Tucker Carlson it’s worth the watch.
    FYI, I don’t usually like or agree with Tucker Carlson but I was applauding him all the way through this segment of On The Record.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQcAHgGRBuY

  • Sassy

    I loved the military moms video that Beck ran yesterday!!!!!
    Beck is hyper, but he does nail his points. He keeps running to that phone for “lizard lips” Dunn!
    Larry, sorry you were fired…you can’t claim racism, so I guess it will be age discrimination! LOL!
    We seniors should start screaming every time we have to stand in line, get a bad haircut, or get lousy service in restaurants.
    Get with the program! It’s the new game in town!

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Noah Winer?
    That’s as funny as Heywood…

  • tek

    Ferd: you are exactly right. Obama is a mix of the worst of the Left and the Right.

  • Nellie

    I am from NH, and we are told constantly that we are too direct and outspoken,

    That Video is extremely powerful and thanks for bringing it to our attention. If the so called MSM has problems with the way NH people speak, this video will either shake them awake, or give them a heart attack.

  • Nellie

    No, a narcissist cannot tolerate less than full adoration and total agreement. Otherwise narcissists are extremely nasty and vengeful creatures.

  • HARP

    I could see Sarah Palin as energy secretary.

  • http://N/A breeze

    WHITE HOUSE CITES OPINION SHOWS AS BASIS FOR FOX NEWS
    COMPLAINTS

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs Refers to
    “Beck” and “Hannity” as the reasons why the Obama
    Administration is criticizing Fox News

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/20/white-house-cites-opinion-shows-basis-fox-news-complaints/

  • ImaLlindatoo

    Sarah Palin is not divisive. Sarah Palin is actually a populist, but Conservative.

    The only illusion of divisiveness is that Democrats fear her, politically, so they hit on her when ever possible. That they will do to any opponent they deam a political adversary.

  • ImaLlindatoo

    And might I add, divisive? if you don’t think Liz Cheney is divisive, I don’t know what you consider divisive.

    And, she is too radical for foreign policy, like her Dad, which is why she is forming the “Conservative” Foreign Policy Consulting Firm.

  • Tammy

    Yeah, Beck does mock the White House like no one I’ve seen before. Sometimes I laugh out loud.

    At least he’s entertaining while passing on serious information. I love the “red phone”. With the guy in the Mao outfit. That was too much. LOL

  • Country First

    “commentary should be strictly regulated”

    I can tell the difference between an opinion and a fact. Passing a lie off as a fact is a little harder, requiring some research. Give us some respect here; we’re not stupid.

  • jwrjr

    “To draw attention to its biased coverage, President Obama will not appear on FOX for the rest of this year.”
    A. Will Fox even notice? When has Ozero ever been on Fox?
    B. Bring it. Has the WH not noticed that not appearing on Fox gives the appearance of weakness for those who are not Ozerophiles?

  • Peggy Sue

    Well, I’ll add my opinion: this Dem and HRC supporter cannot and will not support Palin in 2012. I admire Palin’s grit and resilence. I have a feeling if I knew her personally, I’d like her. But I do not think she’s ready to be POTUS. We’re seeing the effects of inexperience at the WH right now. Personality alone does not get the job done.

    Palin needs time to prove herself. She’s just not there yet. And running prematurely in 2012 could end her political career for good.

  • Mr. x

    I’m sorry. But I just can’t fall all over myself worshiping Fox News and its squads of thugs. I despise Obama but Fox is worse– they and the rest of the right wing monsters have gotten us in involved in wars we don’t need and they constantly belittle and oppose any sort of reform of anything that might possibly help the little guys. They are the ultimate corporate dick suckers. So they criticize Barry– do you think they wouldn’t criticize Clinton? No they are an arm of the GOP just as Rush Limpbaugh is. Put your money Murdock’s pocket if you wish– it is a free country but I’ll get my news from the Internet Toobs.

  • jwrjr

    So now it is unpatriotic to have opinions (unless the opinions chauvinistically love Ozero)? I would describe such foolishness (a word starting with “i”) but that usually attracts the Spam Monster (sort of like the Cookie Monster but not as cute).

  • Sassy

    I have not watched NBC since Tom Brokaw said during shock and awe, “we will be in Baghdad in three days”!
    Fox did support the Iraq invasion, but they were not alone. Judith Miller is the one person on Fox that I will not watch.
    I really enjoy the business segments, for I can follow the discussion. For some reason, that is easier for me than trying to read the financial pages.
    In 2012, I would love to see Gen. Petraeus head the republican ticket, with a strong financial VP!

  • Country First

    I’m sorry that Sarah Palin is going on Oprah’s show. Even that won’t lure me back. The day Oprah picked a political candidate to back is the last day I watched her show.

  • Peggy Sue

    Well then, they should be equally incensed with Olbermann, Matthews and Maddow. Where’s the criticism for MSNBC?

    Crickets.

    Oh, that’s right. MSNBC is the Obama fawn machine.

  • Diana L. C.

    That young woman was angry! Good for her. I’m guessing there are lots more out there like her.

    Her Anita Dunn comment was so appropriate for this post. I don’t see Fox suffering much because of the O administration’s little efforts to play Big Brother.

  • Peggy Sue

    And PS: there’s no way I’d vote for another Cheney [Liz] or another Bush [Jeb].

  • Country First

    Our country would be better off today if the Dems had been defeated! Look at what has happened. The Democratic Congress thinks they can railroad any kind of bill (without even reading it)and We the People have no standing with them whatsoever. Let me say I’m no big fan of McCain either, but I don’t think he would have surrounded himself with 3 dozen radical czars.

  • Country First

    Surely Palin is as ready for POTUS as Obama was and she, too, could surround herself with czars in the areas where she felt inadequate!

  • Country First

    …and I wonder if she would need three dozen?

  • Peggy Sue

    Petraeus would be an interesting choice, Sassy. I’ve heard his name tossed around but I don’t know whether the man is interested in the political arena. But he does garner respect from the majority of the public. I agree, btw, a Petraeus would need a strong financial/economic partner because that’s the main domestic storm threatening the country.

  • http://www.BullShit.com Osellingbullshit

    When this presidency is over in 3 yrs, America will be deeply divided. It will make the division left by Bush something we wish for.

    What’s coming out of this White House is what you usually see in Third World tyrants, not elected leader of the free world. It just bemuses me that any rational American would have bought into voting for Obama, let alone supports this administration.

    Can someone explain to me how it’s possible for the national security decision of USA to depend on a third world election in the worst backward country on Earth? Seriously?

  • http://N/A breeze

    Alexander to White House: Don’t Create ‘Enemies List’
    Oct. 21, 2009, 9:31 a.m.
    By Keith Koffler
    Roll Call Staff

    ——————————————————————————–

    A top Senate Republican will take to the floor Wednesday morning to suggest that the Obama White House is plotting a political strategy similar to that of ex-President Richard Nixon and may be on the verge of preparing its own “enemies list.”

    Senate Republican Conference Chairman Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, who served in the Nixon White House, plans to offer what he will say is a “friendly suggestion” to the White House not to repeat the errors he saw committed by the staff of the disgraced former president.

    “Based upon that experience and my forty years since then in and out of public life I want to make what I hope will be taken as a friendly suggestion to President Obama and his White House: don’t create an enemies list,” Alexander will say, according to a copy of his remarks obtained by Roll Call.

    Describing the actions of Vice President Spiro Agnew and Nixon operative Chuck Colson, Alexander will say that he sees “symptoms of this same kind of animus developing in the Obama Administration.”

    Alexander will read off a list of examples he says support his contention, including: a reported effort by the White House to marginalize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a supposed effort by the Health and Human Services Department to put a “gag order” on the insurer Humana, the White House move to take on Fox News, Obama’s repeated criticisms of banks and investment houses, his alleged “taking names” of “bondholders who resisted the GM and Chrysler bailouts,” and the president’s move to make insurers the boogeyman of the health care debate.

    Alexander will claim that the incipient White House “enemies” campaign extends even to Congress. He will suggest that Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) was the victim of a sort of payback, saying that after Kyl suggested the stimulus plan wasn’t working, the White house subsequently wrote the governor of Arizona that, “If you don’t want the money, we won’t send it.”

    He will say that after he and Sen. Bob Bennett (R) of Utah questioned the power of White House “czars,” they both were “called out” on the White House blog.

    “This behavior is typical of street brawls and political campaign consultants,” Alexander will say. “If the President and his top aides treat people with different views as enemies instead of listening to what they have to say, they’re likely to end up with a narrow view and a feeling that the whole world is out to get them. And as those of us who served in the Nixon White House know, that can get you into a lot of trouble.”

    http://www.rollcall.com

  • Country First

    I see Obama on Fox News all the time. Fox reports; I sure wish Fox would boycott him so I wouldn’t have to mute or change the channel so much.

  • jwrjr

    My error. He just won’t be interviewed by Fox.

  • Country First

    You know, since I’ve been watching Beck on Fox, I see more facts coming out than opinion; actually, his show is filled with facts you won’t find on any other tv news channel. And he says over and over, here are the facts, you decide. The White House is scared of the facts and doesn’t want the dems or other news media picking up the facts they’re too lazy or corrupt to ferret out on their own.

    I hear the NYTimes will have to lay off employees, about 100. Do you think they will figure out people want unbiased, unvarnished news, not biased opinion or fluff?

  • Country First

    I knew what you meant. Just making a point about Fox reporting. Didn’t mean my remark to be correcting you. Sorry.

  • mountainaires

    Excuses Wearing Thin for Obama, Media Allies

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/1834209,CST-EDT-HUNT20.article#

    Obama is still popular, but polls show the public losing faith in his policies. Another indicator was a ”Saturday Night Live” skit lampooning Obama for the major accomplishments of his administration — “jack and squat.” If the honeymoon is ending with the American voter, it isn’t for obsequious elements of the mainstream media. CNN prostrated itself by fact-checking the ”SNL” comedy skit.

    But that’s harmless compared to the virulent campaign against Obama critics carried out by the denizens of MSNBC. Its Obama acolytes seek to demonize opponents of Obama’s policies by focusing on most marginal corners of right-wing politics like, for example, the “birthers” who deny Obama is a natural born citizen. The larger scheme is to imply Obama critics are racists.

    That’s the backdrop to the story of Rush Limbaugh getting booted from a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams. He was smeared on CNN and MSNBC with false accusations of making two racist comments. He is an abrasive critic of Obama, so he must be racist, or so goes the left-wing story line. I wouldn’t defend everything Limbaugh has ever said, but lies were used to blacklist him from professional football for his political views.

    Recently an MSNBC personality accused the U.S. Chamber of Commerce of lobbying for policies that amount to being “treasonous to this country.” Remember how liberals roared in outrage at any hint of their patriotism being questioned for criticizing the Iraq War? Well, it’s the left that doesn’t shy from attacking the patriotism of those it dislikes. Recall the repulsive Moveon.org “General Betray-us” ad against Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus. Recent opposition to Chicago’s Olympic bid was cast as a sign of a lack of patriotism among Obama critics.

    The MSNBC blast against the chamber appears to dovetail with what the Politico newspaper reports is a White House and Democratic effort “to marginalize” the business organization. That echoes the administration assault on the Fox News Channel: It says Fox isn’t a news organization.

    The White House trying to dictate who’s a news organization. Democrats out to gut a business group. Obama media allies damning Americans as racist, unpatriotic and treasonous. Is this the America Obama promised when he campaigned to end the cynical and divisive politics of the past?

  • Peggy Sue

    I’m not arguing Obama’s credentials. I never thought he was qualified and did not vote for him. His “charisma” [something I never saw]convinced many voters that he was something he was not.

    But that doesn’t mean I’m going to turn around and vote for Sarah Palin [whose personality I find attractive] when she lacks experience for the job. She needs time to grow. I was willing to give her pass on the VP job in 2008 because I knew McCain was ready. But simply running for a national office does not make one ready to take on the WH as POTUS. Again, we’ve seen that argument [Obama was ready because he ran such a stunning campaign]fall flat on its face.

    Btw, I hate this czar business. I don’t care who puts them in. Every President has a Cabinet and plenty of staff. If that’s not enough to prop a President up, then he/she doesn’t belong in the WH.

  • susan h

    I believe this is all DIVERSIONARY. Remember, Hitler used the Jews as scapegoats to try and unite the population on his behalf. Obama can’t be so obvious as to go against whites, jews, christians, so he goes against Fox News in an effort to create a “me/us” and “them” mentality. Fox News is the only station today who will tell us the truth about Obama. That is something he and his group of thugs and minions and CZARS cannot afford. Remember, he has been given a pass for the last two years by the MSM and that he is how he has been able to succeed in conning/deceiving most of the public. Now ACORN is being exposed which is a huge link to Obama. While I do not agree with everything coming out of Fox News, I do not agree with anything coming from MSNBC (used to love them). If Obama succeeds in shutting down Fox News, we are in deep trouble. First they came for Fox News, then “No Quarter”, then they came for me…

  • http://N/A breeze

    CNN ASKS A PSYCHIATRIST TO EXPLAIN WHY FOLKS LISTEN
    TO CONSERVATIVE RADIO (RUSH)

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/rush_should_make_cnn_an_offer.html#

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  • Lana

    I’m bothered by this and the Rush L. affair. Charles K. noted that CNN found it necessary to fact check SNL but not “quotes” attributed to Rush L.

    That speaks volumes right there!

  • Lana

    That is funny! I’ll have to watch.

  • http://N/A breeze
  • Lana

    True here, too. I’m curious to see what happens with Sarah and Oprah, but I quit watching Oprah when she started fawning for T.O. Hmmm…torn here.

  • Lana

    Excellent comment! You should send that in to the white house!

  • rosa

    Peggysue ,I was going to write my own comment but you seem to have the same views that I have . I watch Fox now too but never forgetting how they have been in the past and will be again. For now they are getting out there what needs to be. We were all screaming for someone to voice these claims of how the OB has been form way back in chicago and primary and no one was doing it, where it would be heard. Defintely not the CNN’s and MSNBC’s{propaganda machines} Now it is in their interest, but like you Sarah or Chenny would never be a choice for me. any woman, is not good enough, to elect them for president. People have to remember everything, not just that for now they are doing what needs done, but like Obama they have an agenda in the end. People need to have longer memories not just for the mooment thats how we got Obama

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  • Lana

    I think Hillary pushed harder in Denver than any of us will ever know. The only other blog I visit regularly is pumapac and some of the bloggers there were with Hillary in Denver. They have stories to tell about all of the shenanigans that went on to insure a B.O. (or should I say B.S.)nomination. One example I remember had to so with calling the California delegation to vote a day early when some of them had not yet flown in because it looked like California was not going to roll over and give all its delegates to B.O. Pelosi did not want to be embarrassed so she messed with the voting.

  • DAB

    I had heard that before Obama decided to run for President, Axelrod told him that he was too thin skinned and that he would have get over it if he were to be an effective leader. Looks like he isn’t able to control the boss anymore.

    Also it has been reported that Jake Tapper confronted Gibbs during one of their on-the-record, but more casual meetings, asking who were they to decide who is a news organization and who is not one? (I really admire Tapper for his rare objectivity and watch ABC Nightly News primarily because of his presence.)

    And liberal Democratic pundit Bob Beckel was on Fox last night talking about how he has been viciously attacked by the left within the past few weeks for his regular appearances on Fox. Juan Williams, who could probably be classified as a moderate or slightly right of center Democrat, has also come under consistent fire — most often because he is black.

    Like Larry, I am also aware of Fox’s obvious bias, but even though I never watched them in the past, I do now and thank God that they exist in order to offer some semblance of balance within the media universe.

  • DAB

    All he’s missing is one little “h”.

  • Docelder

    Axelrod told him that he was too thin skinned and that he would have get over it if he were to be an effective leader.

    That’s just it. He never was an effective leader and he won’t be. He is a brand and as a brand he can be sold. But a brand can’t lead. It would be like thinking corn flakes can lead. No, they can’t. But the men that sell corn flakes can lead.

  • Lana

    Wow! Good for Alexander. I wonder if O knows or cares how much more respect I have for some Republicans every time T.O. opens his mouth.

  • Lana

    Hooray for Jake Tapper:
    From this Tuesday’s gaggle in White House press secretary Robert Gibbs’ office:

    Tapper: It’s escaped none of our notice that the White House has decided in the last few weeks to declare one of our sister organizations “not a news organization” and to tell the rest of us not to treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to decide that a news organization is not one –

    (Crosstalk)

    Gibbs: Jake, we render, we render an opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness that, the fairness of that coverage.

    Tapper: But that’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they are “not a news organization.” How are they any different from, say –

    Gibbs: ABC -

    Tapper: ABC. MSNBC. Univision. I mean how are they any different?

    Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight. Or 5 o’clock this afternoon.

    Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programming or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying thousands of individuals who work for a media organization, do not work for a “news organization” — why is that appropriate for the White House to say?

    Gibbs: That’s our opinion.

  • b mathews

    since obaME spends very little time in the WH, outsourcing mostly everything to his “czars” while he flies around the world seeking adoration (since its dying here in the U.S. as more and more people catch on to him). now he is spending his time doing fundraisers which makes me think thats the reason the dnc pushed so hard to make him president. it would not surprise me if he was told “do as we say and we will make you president. you dont have to worry about being inexperienced as others behind the scenes will do the real work. just go out and raise money for the dems and we will take care of the rest” i think its unseemly for a president to be out there begging for money like the snake oil salesman that he is.

  • Peggy Sue

    Dolceder said:

    “It would be like thinking corn flakes can lead.”

    Actually, I think we’d stand a better chance with Tony the Tiger :0).

  • Peggy Sue

    And so far, Trapper is the only press corp member with the balls to ask that question. I would think that these “so-called” journalists would realize that if one news outlet and/or certain personalities can be demonized then they’re all threatened with equal treatment if they step out of line [you know, like actually do their jobs as watchdogs, not bleary-eyed sheep].

  • Peggy Sue

    Rosa said:

    “People need to have longer memories not just for the mooment thats how we got Obama.”

    Exactly, Rosa. Revisionist history doesn’t get us anywhere. We seem to be on the same wavelength!

  • jbjd

    He is a brand and as a brand he can be sold. But a brand can’t lead. It would be like thinking corn flakes can lead. No, they can’t. But the men that sell corn flakes can lead.

    Yes; they can lead you to buy the corn flakes.

  • b mathews

    i think its laughable that the UN has decided that the election in afghanistan was fraudulent and 1/3rd of the votes were discounted, therefore calling for a run off election. where was the UN during our fraudulent election? many of obaME’s votes were found to fake (you know, like mickey mouse , donald duck and adolph hitler among others) its even more laughable when obaME says it since his whole campaign and election was a fraud and in his heart he knows it. too bad its way to late for americans to call for a run off election.

  • jbjd

    Lana, some of us were ‘pushing’ hard from here, to the floor of the convention. And you know why CA was so important? Because it is a vote binding state, meaning that, by law, delegates elected in the primary to represent one candidate had to vote for that candidate on the floor of the convention, on at least the first round. That’s why NP, Chair of the 2008 DNC Convention, could not allow a floor vote; because HRC could have won that vote, with pledged delegates from vote binding states. I begged PUMA PAC to run my ‘prowl’ about vote binding states, beginning a week before the convention. (At that time, I had no blog of my own. Too busy posting elsewhere.) First, the owner of that blog dismissed me: ‘There are only 1 or 2 of those states, anyway.’ No; there are 13 (thirteen). Each day, she promised to post the prowl; but she never did. I did the best I could to get the word out, aided by volunteers who commented on PUMA PAC. Ricki Lieberman found out about my work and added it to her newsletter. I still wonder what could have been accomplished if instead of running “party” banners on the blog, they had run my prowl about vote binding states. (Even Howard Wolfson mentioned my work on vote bindings states, on FOX, although he did not use my name.)

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  • b mathews

    i, for one, am grateful that obaME and his minions wont appear on fox since its the only news channel i have been watching since the msm turned rabid about hillary. he is on way more than enough (actually way too much)all the other msm shows. if he start appearing on fox i will have to stop watching the news altogether. many americans are sick of seeing his face and hearing his lies. so please barry, by all means, stay off fox .

  • requiredreading

    I think we’d stand a better chance with the flakes.

  • b mathews

    i wonder how all those appointed and vetted cabinet members feel about about barry’s czars undermining their positions? of course they are all too afraid of incurring barry;s wrath by speaking out. so they will just sit by and allow him to bring this country to its knees. they are more concerned about keeping thier jobs (along with those nice lifetime pensions) than they are about keeping america free from this tyrant. maybe someday when they are no longer in office they will feel free to speak out and tell the truth so that history will show the truth about this snake oil salesman.

  • b mathews

    has tapper been banned from the WH press core yet now that he has incurred their wrath? if not he will be soon as they need to as a warning to other reporters not to dare ask any hard questions. maybe tapper should move over to FNC where he can be free to ask anything he wants to without being told by gibbs “because we said so”

  • requiredreading

    I decided during the campaign that I was only going to listen to what came out the horses’ mouths and not any spin. I tried this on my husband, who believed the going nonsense about Hillary until I asked him to watch youtube videos of her actually speaking. That turned him around. What I like about Glenn Beck is that a) he plays actual videos of the Obama czars and spokespeople that speak more loudly than any commentary; b) he gathers real live groups of people (doctors/interns, mothers of soldiers, etc.) who elicit real opinions, as opposed to the adoring robots who gather around him for a nice photo op; and c) he compares Obama’s actual words with Obama’s actual deeds/non-deeds/misdeeds. Facts. I can make up my own mind about the rest.

  • requiredreading

    in b) above, I meant adoring robots who gather around Obama ….

  • Peggy Sue

    We had a Obamatron posting last week that Juan Williams was a “faux-liberal.” Translation: he’s unwilling to sell the far, far left agenda and has had the temerity to actually criticize The One. I’d consider Williams a moderate Dem, which is in fact what I am.

    Bob Beckel is about as partisan a Far Left Dem as you can get. If, in fact, he’s been criticized for merely appearing on Fox News that should be a clear shot across the bow–you either bend to the Far Left crowd or suffer the consequences.

    But as Beckel himself has pointed out: he reaches more voters in a single week on Fox than he would reach in three months at the other venues.

    And that’s what the WH has a problem with–the reach of Fox News, the ability to put a hiccup in the message. And I also think it’s a grand distraction–look at this hand, not the one rifling your pockets or shredding your antiquated constitutional rights.

    This crew plays the shell game, 24/7.

  • Peggy Sue

    I think Tapper has more clout at this point in time being part of the MSM [ABC News, I think]. If he were from Fox, they’d simply write him off as “one of those” crazies.

    Right now, he makes his comrades at those press conferences look really, really bad.

  • Carmen

    Larry I do not see an open thread and this is too important to not post. I think you and your people should see and think about this.
    On World Net Today they discuss the husband of Anita Dunn an Obama lawyer who has been paid a lot of money to keep cases out of court. Then on a separate site the story of how a person from his firm JUST HAPPENS to have been hired by the Marine judge who has been letting the case go forward in Calif. So now they have a mole in the judge’s chambers. They must have really threatened this judge because he had previously stated that if there were any questions he wanted to get to the bottom of it and as a ex-Marine he was under oath to protect the American people.

    Attacking Fox News and defending President Obama is a family affair for Anita Dunn, the White House communications director who has blasted Fox as an arm of the Republican Party and talked about “controlling” the news media.

    She’s married to Robert Bauer, the chief of the political law group at Perkins Coie, the Seattle law firm hired by the White House to defend Obama in court cases challenging his “natural born” citizenship status and thus, his eligibility under the U.S. Constitution to be president.

    Dunn is targeting Fox News with criticisms emanating from the administration that it isn’t even a news network, while Bauer has done his best to prevent the American public from seeing a wide range of Obama’s records that could prove, or disprove, his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

    Documents concerning Obama that the White House has refused to release to the public include his long-form birth certificate and his passport records. Other records unreleased records that may be relevant include records regarding Obama’s possible adoption by his Indonesian stepfather and college application and tuition financial aid records that would reveal whether Obama was ever registered as a foreign student.

    Read “The Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama’s War on American Values”

    WND previously has reported that Federal Election Commission records show $1,352,378.95 in payments were made by Obama for America to Perkins Coie while the law firm was representing him in various court cases which have sought to obtain his long-form birth certificate.

    Obama for America, Obama’s 2008 political campaign, merged with the Democratic National Committee in January and is now known as Organizing for America. The grassroots army that some refer to as “Obama 2.0″ continues to solicit financial contributions on the BarackObama.com website.

    Bauer, a Democratic Party partisan, has a long history of defending Democratic Party presidential hopefuls.

    Then from defend our freedom’s

    In a stunning blow to the impartiality of the American Judicial system, Federal Judge David O. Carter, who is hearing the case Barnett vs. Obama, in the Central District, Southern Division Court at Santa Ana, California, has just hired a lawyer who works for a law firm where Robert F. Bauer, one of Obama’s top lawyers is a partner. And that, just days before the Oct. 5, 2009 hearing on the Motion to Dismiss, in which his demeanor radically changed, according to Dr. Orly Taitz, esq., lead counsel for the Plaintiffs.

    Siddharth Velamoor is the lawyer chosen by Carter to serve as one of his two official clerks, from Oct. 1, 2009, till Sept. 30, 2010, according to Wikipedia. Velamoor is listed as an associate with Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Seattle, Washington. It is not clear if he has broken his relations with the firm. Perkins Coie, LLP did represent Obama in a previous case litigated by Dr. Orly Taitz last winter.

    Robert F. Bauer, is a partner of Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Washington, D.C.. His bio at the company identifies him as holding the Chair of the Political Law group at the firm; general counsel to Obama’s Campaign for America and general counsel to the Democratic National Committee.

    Mr. Bauer’s wife is none other than Anita Dunn, the Whitehouse Communication’s Director.

    Mr. Bauer, who represented Obama in a case challenging his eligibility in the spring, wrote a letter on April 3, threatening a citizen if he should continue to seek justice in the courts. You can read more about that case and letter here.

    Since it appears that Siddharth Velamoor could be influenced by Perkins Coie, if the case did not go Obama’s way; his presence in Judge Carter’s chambers clearly impugns the integrity of the court, and will be the cause of dismay among the general public. Indeed since Velamoor will in the near future need a job reference from Perkins Coie, he will always have to be careful not to offend them politically.

    This appearance of grave impropriety, leads the objective observer to ask (1) whether Velamoor has separated his ties with the firm; (2) who suggested to him to apply for a clerkship with Carter; (3) was this before or after the case Barnett vs. Obama was filed in February; and (4) did Carter know of the relations between Velamoor, Perkins Coie, and Bauer.

    For more information about Velamoor, see “Just Citizens Making Ethical Statements” Blog.

  • Carmen

    I don’t know if I should re-post, or if my comment will be out.

    Larry and everyone here should check these two things out, they are both related, and are VERY CREEPY!

    Attacking Fox News and defending President Obama is a family affair for Anita Dunn, the White House communications director who has blasted Fox as an arm of the Republican Party and talked about “controlling” the news media.

    She’s married to Robert Bauer, the chief of the political law group at Perkins Coie, the Seattle law firm hired by the White House to defend Obama in court cases challenging his “natural born” citizenship status and thus, his eligibility under the U.S. Constitution to be president.

    Dunn is targeting Fox News with criticisms emanating from the administration that it isn’t even a news network, while Bauer has done his best to prevent the American public from seeing a wide range of Obama’s records that could prove, or disprove, his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

    Documents concerning Obama that the White House has refused to release to the public include his long-form birth certificate and his passport records. Other records unreleased records that may be relevant include records regarding Obama’s possible adoption by his Indonesian stepfather and college application and tuition financial aid records that would reveal whether Obama was ever registered as a foreign student.

    Read “The Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama’s War on American Values”

    WND previously has reported that Federal Election Commission records show $1,352,378.95 in payments were made by Obama for America to Perkins Coie while the law firm was representing him in various court cases which have sought to obtain his long-form birth certificate.

    Obama for America, Obama’s 2008 political campaign, merged with the Democratic National Committee in January and is now known as Organizing for America. The grassroots army that some refer to as “Obama 2.0″ continues to solicit financial contributions on the BarackObama.com website.

    Bauer, a Democratic Party partisan, has a long history of defending Democratic Party presidential hopefuls.

  • jbjd

    Correction: I began asking for a prowl for my work on vote binding states 2 (two) weeks before the Convention.

  • Lana

    And Obama says the Karzai’s election won’t be legitimate if he doesn’t agree to a run-off and that he thinks Korzai would want to prove he is the legitimate leader. Which just makes me laugh because that’s what I thought about Obama during the primaries–he’d want to be the legitimate winner so why not have a new election in Fl and MI. Oh, such hypocrisy.

  • Lana

    You are right. This is scary creepy. Is there any place Obama hasn’t tried to manipulate the system??

  • Lana

    Ok, now it’s just silly time. Apparently attacking Fox News isn’t enough. Now the Dems are locking Republicans out of meeting rooms for challenging them on VIP loans made by Countrywide. The Repubs have video of all the DEms who profited from Citywide’s practices bolting from the room when the Repubs tried to call for a vote on examining this. The Dems retaliated by changing the locks on the doors.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/21/committee-chairman-towns-locks-republicans-dispute/?test=latestnewscommentscomments

  • lorac

    Wow. Good find.

  • Gary

    While I have very little respect for Obama, he’s batting 1000% with Fox news. It isn’t a news organization, and IS an arm of the Republican party. Tell me who on Fox is a liberal in the opinion dept?? I count two, and even they have been neutered by Fox, Juan Williams and Mara Liasson. Let’s look at Fox programming throughout the day shall we.

    Fox and friends in the morning. Steve Doocy, Brian Kilmeade and Gretchen Carlson. All three of them are conservative. 9AM, Bill Hemmer and Megyn Kelly. Kelly is so far right, she tips over, and Hemmer is just another Fox anchor stooge with Fox talking points from John Moody in hand.

    Shepard Smith is the only one on Fox who I still have respect for. But is he a liberal?? Hardly!!! 4PM, Neil Cavuto. Another conservative than never met a liberal he liked. Somehow, the Fox “business” hour always seems to turn into anything other than a business hour. Now we get into the meat and potatoes of the Fox news lineup. 5PM, Glenn Beck. Fact it folks, Beck is a total loon!!!! A pathetic waste of time, space and energy. 6PM, the so-called Fox all stars. The panel almost always consists of three conservatives to maybe one liberal. Hardly fair and balanced. 7PM, Shep comes back for an hour of unbiased news.

    8PM, Bill O’Reilly. Another guy who’s full of it. Pretends to be evenhanded, but is very right wing. Always complains about the far left “loons”, but almost never complains about the far right!!!

    9PM, Sean Hannity. Don’t even get me started about him. The worst of the bunch, right next to Beck. A complete and utter liar. Sean makes up stuff just to prove to the world how stupid he really is.

    10PM Greta Van Susteren. Used to be pretty good on CNN, but when she ventures into the political world, she’s just another right wing fraud.

    That’s the Fox news lineup. A blind man can see how utterly slanted and right wing it is. Like I said, Obama is not my favorite by any means, but I hope the administration continues calling out Fox for what they really are, Republican TV.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Gary, you check back when you get a life, ‘kay? You’re not fooling anyone here with your “analysis” of Fox News.

    Yawn.

  • Lana

    Jbjd,
    thank you so much for the information. It’s so enlightening. I can’t believe they wouldn’t do the prowl. I was doing their prowls and would definitely done that one. Ironically they’ve been revisiting that topic lately and 2 days ago I refered them to your blog!! Please keep doing your excellent work. I pray for the day this all comes out.

  • lorac

    ” First they came for Fox News, then “No Quarter”, then they came for me…”

    Susan h – you should finish out this faux-pastor Neumoller poem, and make it go viral!

    they also went for the chamber of commerce, got Chicago style goons to get their biggest donors to quit the group

    They also went againt Humana for sending out the emails with the truth about the email

    and what about that politician who called Obama a liar on the issue of covering illegal aliens – he apologized so he was SAVED…

  • lorac

    Close! Emboldening :)

  • lorac

    Don, I have a hard time passing that judgment, because there was undoubtedly so much behind the scenes stuff we can’t even imagine. And I don’t mean deals like getting SOS. I wouldn’t be surprised if there hadn’t been threats of some kind.

    She was so fired up on that last primary night, saying she’ll fight to the end, and she seemed to me extremely believable. And then a couple of days later, it was all different. Something intervened, I think.

  • lorac

    Wow, don’t know whether to laugh or cry about that one. I’ve heard the mainstream media isn’t covering the wars much, so I guess we have a new Forest Gump saying: Stupid is as Stupid watches (MSM).

  • lorac

    He’s a good ole opportunist.

  • lorac

    I’m in the same boat, Diana. I’ve always been good at seeing the grays in life, so it was quite a shock to realize that I had seen politics in such black/white terms (dems good, repubs bad). And looking back, I always “knew” the answers to things, because (following the same logic) I knew the dems were right.

    So it’s been an adjustment, as now I don’t immediately know the answers to things. Instead I have to listen to both sides and figure out my very own opinion! But it feels very freeing – very, very freeing.

  • FLDemFem

    Speaking of delegates to the convention, I am seriously considering suing the DNC, with Donna Brazile named as the chief perpetrator, for violating my Constitutional rights. How you ask? Here’s how.. when Donna, and the DNC, were planning to inflict Obama on us, one of the ways they did it was by giving more delegates per 100,000 people, or whatever the ratio is, to areas that were heavily AA. In other words, they got more bang for their vote than non-AA areas did. In this country, we have one vote per citizen of voting age..not 1 1/2 for some and just one for others. This ruling by the DNC diminished the value of my vote, cast for Hillary in FL, and therefore rendered it unequal to the votes cast in areas that are heavily AA. At least one of my AA friends here in FL has agreed to add her name to the suit as well. I am sure we will be pilloried as racists, but that is a risk I am willing to take. Anyone who knows me knows it isn’t true, and I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I am still looking for the right lawyer, and still figuring out when this suit should be filed. Timing is everything in politics, as you know. I think the spring of 2010 would be a good time. What do you all think??

  • Lana

    Amen, Peggy Sue.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    Brilliant!

  • Peggy Sue

    I hope the Administration keeps up the attacks on Fox News, too, Gary. Because it makes them look like the thin-skinned whiners they really are.

    Can’t stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen, as they say. But then, I suppose, you’re of the mind that MSNBC is fair and balanced. Olbermann, Matthews and Maddow match O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck. As for the rest? Is there an equal match of liberals to conservatives at MSNBC?

    Cut me a break! And exactly what is “liberal” enough. Marching goosestep, I imagine.

    So, please, keep banging the drum and whining your head off. And watch Fox’s ratings go into the stratosphere. Nice going!

  • crk62

    how has Fox’s freedom of the press been threatened by any of this?

  • lorac

    You’re complaining that you feel there are so many conservatives on Fox. Tell me – how many LIBERALS are on MSNBC, CNN, CBS, etc? And tell me – did you actually see any vetting of Obama by those stations, or did they just drool all over him?

    But let me guess – Fox is biased, but the others aren’t….

    OK, I understand now.

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/10/23/jake-tapper-and-the-press-pool-stand-together/ Jake Tapper, And The Press Pool, Stand Together : NO QUARTER

    [...] and the president himself. Larry Johnson had a great piece on this earlier in the week, “Fox Is Not A News Station?,” if you need to catch [...]

  • Smart-Jazz-Just Me

    I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend, should be the title of this posting….

    Yes Fox is covering news items that most are not. But what is their true motive? Reporting News? Making News? Or Using the news for a political purpose?

    The truth is that we have no more news outlets and I laugh at the hypocrisy of news outlets coming to the defense of Fox while killing each other to get the latest scoop. The only thing the others are protecting is themselves not the public at large..

  • Ni

    FOX is a joke.

  • FLDemFem

    They found out during the campaign that he wouldn’t share either his email list or any of the $750 million he raised with any other candidates. Why would they expect him to do any good for them as a fundraiser? After all, those fundraisers are about other people, not him. So his interest would be minimal at best. And it probably shows.

    What I would like to know is how his mileage on AF-One compares to Bush’s at this time in their respective terms. The bots keep saying that Bush went to his ranch every weekend..but that round trip “every week”, even if it was every week, probably doesn’t compare to Obummer’s predilection for his “spiffy ride”. The cost of flying that plane and its escorts around is massive. The fuel alone on AF-One is $64,000 an hour, that’s just the gas..not the cost of the personnel, extra security, etc…never mind the other five or more planes that go along, an extra AF-One, the two massive C-140′s, or whatever they are, that carry the limos, etc., and the fighter escorts. The carbon footprint for each of his trips is massive, HUGE.

    And that is one thing they can’t blame on Bush..or Fox.

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