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	<title>Comments on: The Wall Street Oligopoly Rails on Compensation Controls</title>
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		<title>By: Sonic Ninja Kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269982</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonic Ninja Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, LD.  Your ideas are solid.

I would like to make one little suggestion for preventing these shenanigans in the future:  END THE FED!  Also, Congress should watch the Treasury Dept to make sure it doesn&#039;t collude with private companies.

The idea is that companies should get back to focusing on the goods and services they produce (seems like a faraway concept, doesn&#039;t it?).  Produce quality things, sell them at a good price.  Any risk taking should be at a FREE MARKET rate, not some magical pixie dust number the Fed pulls out of a hat at its whim.  The consequences of risk taking should be shouldered by the company itself, not spread among taxpayers.  They don&#039;t share profits with taxpayers, why are they allowed to share losses?  (And why are taxpayers forced to bear them?)

The Fed is a collusive banking cartel.  Their control over our money supply is unConstitutional and wreaks havoc on us.  Strike the root.  End the Fed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, LD.  Your ideas are solid.</p>
<p>I would like to make one little suggestion for preventing these shenanigans in the future:  END THE FED!  Also, Congress should watch the Treasury Dept to make sure it doesn&#8217;t collude with private companies.</p>
<p>The idea is that companies should get back to focusing on the goods and services they produce (seems like a faraway concept, doesn&#8217;t it?).  Produce quality things, sell them at a good price.  Any risk taking should be at a FREE MARKET rate, not some magical pixie dust number the Fed pulls out of a hat at its whim.  The consequences of risk taking should be shouldered by the company itself, not spread among taxpayers.  They don&#8217;t share profits with taxpayers, why are they allowed to share losses?  (And why are taxpayers forced to bear them?)</p>
<p>The Fed is a collusive banking cartel.  Their control over our money supply is unConstitutional and wreaks havoc on us.  Strike the root.  End the Fed.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldman Sachs Salutes The American Worker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldman Sachs Salutes The American Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Pay Czar&#8217;s Pay Cut Ruling: The Hype, the Hoax, Outrageous Compensation and Bonuses, The Wall Street Oligopoly Rails on Compensation Controls, and The Wall Street Economic Death [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Pay Czar&#8217;s Pay Cut Ruling: The Hype, the Hoax, Outrageous Compensation and Bonuses, The Wall Street Oligopoly Rails on Compensation Controls, and The Wall Street Economic Death [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NomNomNom</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269910</link>
		<dc:creator>NomNomNom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let them be force fed cake like a goose is fed for fois gras</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let them be force fed cake like a goose is fed for fois gras</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269908</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cutting the pay of Congress Critters will just make them more corrupt. What we need to do is to pay them a million a year to do nothing. When the budget rises faster than inflation cut their pay by 10X the rise. And if the budget falls below the inflation rate increase they rate of pay by 10X the fall. 

It is all about incentives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cutting the pay of Congress Critters will just make them more corrupt. What we need to do is to pay them a million a year to do nothing. When the budget rises faster than inflation cut their pay by 10X the rise. And if the budget falls below the inflation rate increase they rate of pay by 10X the fall. </p>
<p>It is all about incentives.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269905</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look. It has nothing to do with banker compensation. They will figure another way to steal the money.

The problem is giving them any money in the first place.

See the videos at the links I posted above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look. It has nothing to do with banker compensation. They will figure another way to steal the money.</p>
<p>The problem is giving them any money in the first place.</p>
<p>See the videos at the links I posted above.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269904</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also this from California:

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/10/government-finance-reform.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also this from California:</p>
<p><a href="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/10/government-finance-reform.html" rel="nofollow">http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/10/government-finance-reform.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269903</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t know the half of it.

New World Ordering

http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-world-ordering.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know the half of it.</p>
<p>New World Ordering</p>
<p><a href="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-world-ordering.html" rel="nofollow">http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-world-ordering.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ziggy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269879</link>
		<dc:creator>ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What do you think?&lt;/em&gt;  

That you, Sir, are a clear voice of reason.  

The government&#039;s functions are to establish fair rules of play, keep the playing fields level, and to be a diligent and observant referee.  All important areas need to be observed.  Including the neglected area of derivatives trading.  

I&#039;m presently so skeptical of the honesty and safety of the markets that I don&#039;t invest.  In the long run, I&#039;m not even sure about the safety of my bank or the integrity of the dollar.  Like most Americans, I&#039;ll need to be convinced that things are really changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What do you think?</em>  </p>
<p>That you, Sir, are a clear voice of reason.  </p>
<p>The government&#8217;s functions are to establish fair rules of play, keep the playing fields level, and to be a diligent and observant referee.  All important areas need to be observed.  Including the neglected area of derivatives trading.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m presently so skeptical of the honesty and safety of the markets that I don&#8217;t invest.  In the long run, I&#8217;m not even sure about the safety of my bank or the integrity of the dollar.  Like most Americans, I&#8217;ll need to be convinced that things are really changing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lana</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269876</link>
		<dc:creator>Lana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, DS. And a question: Didn&#039;t GE also get a bunch of taxpayer money? Are O&#039;s buddies there being forced to take a pay cut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, DS. And a question: Didn&#8217;t GE also get a bunch of taxpayer money? Are O&#8217;s buddies there being forced to take a pay cut?</p>
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		<title>By: jangles</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269875</link>
		<dc:creator>jangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let them eat cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let them eat cake.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government should have made these decisions when it lent the money. Putting restrictions on accepting it months after it&#039;s been accepted is wrong. Executive pay has gotten excessive, and it&#039;s too often out of line with company results, but the government shouldn&#039;t be able to right it&#039;s lack of due diligence and thoughtful decision-making by deciding to put measures in place that were not agreed to when the money was lent.

When they start taking money back from defense contractors that over bill us and produce shoddy work or cover up illegal actions; or demand repayment of grants for social programs filled with embezzlement, fraud and misuse; or crack down on public officials who don&#039;t pay their taxes or don&#039;t report income and gifts accurately or use their offices for personal gain... then they can think about restricting pay for these executives. But, as long as they&#039;re going to turn a blind eye to the huge waste of taxpayer funds in every other area -- and rush to pass legislation without understanding or reading it or thinking about the long-term (in this case, less than six months!) consequences -- they don&#039;t have the right to point to excessive executive compensation as the problem.

How about if we cut every Senator and Congressperson&#039;s pay -- plus the President&#039;s and the salaries of every person involved in pushing and writing the legislation -- by 70-90%? They&#039;re just as much to blame for not making sure there were adequate controls on how the funds were used. And, they clearly don&#039;t deserve the $160K - $400K plus massive benefits and perks they make for what amounts to part-time work.

I just don&#039;t see them pointing fingers at themselves and taking the same responsibility they&#039;re now demanding from these execs. Until they do take responsibility and decide how to address -- moving forward, not backward -- they need to live with the mess they created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government should have made these decisions when it lent the money. Putting restrictions on accepting it months after it&#8217;s been accepted is wrong. Executive pay has gotten excessive, and it&#8217;s too often out of line with company results, but the government shouldn&#8217;t be able to right it&#8217;s lack of due diligence and thoughtful decision-making by deciding to put measures in place that were not agreed to when the money was lent.</p>
<p>When they start taking money back from defense contractors that over bill us and produce shoddy work or cover up illegal actions; or demand repayment of grants for social programs filled with embezzlement, fraud and misuse; or crack down on public officials who don&#8217;t pay their taxes or don&#8217;t report income and gifts accurately or use their offices for personal gain&#8230; then they can think about restricting pay for these executives. But, as long as they&#8217;re going to turn a blind eye to the huge waste of taxpayer funds in every other area &#8212; and rush to pass legislation without understanding or reading it or thinking about the long-term (in this case, less than six months!) consequences &#8212; they don&#8217;t have the right to point to excessive executive compensation as the problem.</p>
<p>How about if we cut every Senator and Congressperson&#8217;s pay &#8212; plus the President&#8217;s and the salaries of every person involved in pushing and writing the legislation &#8212; by 70-90%? They&#8217;re just as much to blame for not making sure there were adequate controls on how the funds were used. And, they clearly don&#8217;t deserve the $160K &#8211; $400K plus massive benefits and perks they make for what amounts to part-time work.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see them pointing fingers at themselves and taking the same responsibility they&#8217;re now demanding from these execs. Until they do take responsibility and decide how to address &#8212; moving forward, not backward &#8212; they need to live with the mess they created.</p>
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		<title>By: sowsear</title>
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		<dc:creator>sowsear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the meantime, unions are being released from gov. scrutiny...
http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/24/why-no-union-pay-czar-it-helps-to-be-a-friend-of-obama/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the meantime, unions are being released from gov. scrutiny&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/24/why-no-union-pay-czar-it-helps-to-be-a-friend-of-obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/10/24/why-no-union-pay-czar-it-helps-to-be-a-friend-of-obama/</a></p>
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		<title>By: sowsear</title>
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		<dc:creator>sowsear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still wondering about the deal with Bank of
Ameica being forced to buy Merrill Lynch/take the bailout. I know BoA, once they found themselves suckered in, planned on paying that money back asap. However,when they were close to having the funds to do so, the gov. suddently decided that they were underfunded and needed to recapitalize. My suspicion is that the gov. wants to maintain control of certain banks/entities,and some may  never really get away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still wondering about the deal with Bank of<br />
Ameica being forced to buy Merrill Lynch/take the bailout. I know BoA, once they found themselves suckered in, planned on paying that money back asap. However,when they were close to having the funds to do so, the gov. suddently decided that they were underfunded and needed to recapitalize. My suspicion is that the gov. wants to maintain control of certain banks/entities,and some may  never really get away.</p>
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		<title>By: socalannie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/35152/the-wall-street-oligopoly-rails-on-compensation-controls/#comment-1269866</link>
		<dc:creator>socalannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your ideas.  My entire family has sold everything in the market and won&#039;t go back until these thieving crooks are snapped back into line.  I&#039;ve heard the same from many friends.  Their greed has ruined everything.  Also, they forgot about all of us &quot;little people&quot; who made them so rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your ideas.  My entire family has sold everything in the market and won&#8217;t go back until these thieving crooks are snapped back into line.  I&#8217;ve heard the same from many friends.  Their greed has ruined everything.  Also, they forgot about all of us &#8220;little people&#8221; who made them so rich.</p>
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