Rasmussen Reports: Hillary Fares Better Against McCain

Senator Hillary Clinton leads McCain by eight points, 50% to 42%.

Even though Obama is now called the nominee Hillary still beats McCain…I love it!

As I said in previous post, are that many people so stupid?? Hillary is still beating McCain in polls versus Obama being close or tied and Hillary is not even running anymore!!

no kidding!!

Wonderful isn’t it wodiej?…There is still some time left…

Wouldn’t it be lovely if the SDs stopped drinking the koolaid or smoking the hopium and woke up.

Hillary is ready to go. And she voted correctly on FISA, too!

I could almost cry….

I thought the Rasmussen Report was no longer going to report on Hillary.

I guess they decided Obama is tanking bad enough to add Hillary back on.

It’s nice to see that even though Obama has deemed himself king – the peasants just ain’t buying it. Hillary has always been the best candidate and she still BEATS McCain and in that sense Obama, too!

Go Hillary!
The real presidential candidate

PUMA

Now THATS change I can believe in.

Personally I still think Hillary has a chance.

AMEN!

If polls keep showing this…if they will poll Clinton…yes I will agree…

Will this change anything?

WASHINGTON — In a break with past Bush administration policy, a top U.S. diplomat will for the first time join colleagues from other world powers at a meeting with Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator, The Associated Press has learned.

William Burns, America’s third highest-ranking diplomat, will attend talks with the Iranian envoy, Saeed Jalili, in Switzerland on Saturday aimed at persuading Iran to halt activities that could lead to the development of atomic weapons, a senior U.S. official told the AP on Tuesday.

PUMAS lets ROAR!!! We need to help Hillary for her to help us!! We’re in a state of despair.. Hillary 08! I’m putting my hopes high..

me too!

If I’m correct, her numbers have remained pretty stable over the last couple of weeks.

Whereas BO’s, well, his numbers are holding or slowly dropping.

Fascinating. Simply fascinating.

Can you believe that Al Gore didn’t campaign at all and he’s doing better than BO?

Gore has no policy, no ad, no TV, no debate, no interview, and he fares better than BO.

There is something seriously wrong with this picture. Voters don’t trust BO.

Holy Shit Batman!

shaweet!

Rasmussen –

About one in five of those who say they voted for Clinton in the primaries now plan to support McCain in November. And just 29 percent of former Clinton supporters who plan to vote for Obama feel “enthusiastic” about the candidate.

Wow, both Hillary and Gore break 50% where your opponent can no longer make up the difference with undecided voters alone.

“because the Republicans are on course to nominate their strongest possible general election candidate but the Democrats are not.”

That’s the best line out of the report. Obama is not the strongest candidate. While this is stating the obvious, it’s amazing how much the Democratic elite don’t get it.

That must be what the SD`s are looking at.

Man walks on moon. Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Hillary fares better against McCain.

Well … DUH!!! Of course the smartest thing you Democrats would have done would have been to nominate Hillary. But unfortunately, just as in the late 60s and early 70s, you’ve let the “moonbat” left take over your party. And now, in Barack Obama. you’ve gotten yourselves the 2008 equivalent of George McGovern.

But just in case any of you are getting a hard-on fantasizing about Hillary somehow winning the nomination at the convention, fuggedaboudit. It ain’t gonna happen. If the nomination were to be taken away from Barack Obama at this late date, you’d see a convention upheaval from the blacks and the hard left that would make Chicago 1968 look like a church picnic. 90% of black voters would stay home on Election Day and McCain would win comfortably, dashing Hillary’s presidential hopes for good.

Face it: Hillary ran a sloppy, ill-conceived campaign and got beat. That’s all there is to it. So, the best thing you Clintonites can do now is vote for McCain this year and set Hillary up for another run in 2012. That’s only 4 years away and she’ll still be only 64 years old.

Billllllllllll

Come out! Come out! Wherever you are.

We need someone to Press On the Press. Now.

Are they going to stifle this too?

Hillary Rodham Clinton 2008

Yay. I told you there’d be dancing in the streets. Let’s tell the world. Billll, it’s time!

pew, tell him our neighbors up north are watching and keeping us down here informed!

In one week we raised $10 million to help retire HRC’s debt–more than twice the amount of cash the DNC has in the bank for the general election. Now we find that with a suspended campaign Hillary still spanks McCain in the polls.

PUMAs, thanks to us the world will know what we’ve known all along; that if the supers vote for Obama they are doing nothing less than committing suicide.

Gosh Barry O’Pampers, it must suck to be you.

You may be right but McCain is still better than Obama…

And yet I predict that the SDs will still hand the nom over to that ambulatory blob of nothing.

I have to agree on the first part. The Democratic party is well known for putting losers on the ticket. Heck, they were all against Bill Clinton at the time too. Even though he clinched the nomination, it took a long time before the superdelegates put their support behind him. The Dems’ SD’s have a phobia of winners.

Hillary did not have a post Super Tuesday strategy. That part is true. But after that, she ran an awesome campaign. It was too late because the SD’s had made up their minds already. It’s always been about the SD’s though and is why she stayed in. Once it was clear no one would reach the magic number with pledged delegates alone, it was obvious it was the SD’s who decide the next nominee. It’s the SD’s that have the task of piking who is best and they’ve failed in that task.

So Obama and Hillary had similar results for the pledged delegates. So you can’t say Obama had a better campaign. It’s the SD’s that picked Obama.

Today I received yet another begging letter from Senator Obama’s Chicago campaign office.

He wants me to mail him money, at the very least my credit card number, but I’m not sure I can trust him with my money. I’ve gotta send him something, right? What to do?

http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/bulkmailer/

Apparently you can attach that postpaid return envelope to just about anything. The Post Office will deliver it and bill the recipient twenty-plus cents per ounce.

If this seems vaguely outrageous, think about the work you’ll be providing to postal workers nationwide. There’s nothing like supporting an American Institution to make you feel good all over.

Have a nice day!

http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/bulkmailer/

Dan R…

We would we see domestic terrorism, is what you are saying?

Nah, there will be gates and monuments covered with flowers all over the world honoring Senator Clinton.

You’ll look like the cover of the New Yorker for real, dopey.

BTW I know that is the fake presidential seal on the floor. Here’s the irony: that is no myth. Somebody confirm. I have impaired vision.

Yay!

Show me don’t tell me!!

Don’t worry, the Democrats are going to circle the wagons around the dead horse campaign as the lesser of two evils.

CHANGE that stinky diaper, Dave.

Someone’s laying a huge egg somewhere, the LA Times editor resigned today.

Wonder how much of that parallels the recent standing O for Hillary that showed up Barack before a choise audience of hispanic/latino voters.

Obama not closing racial divide: poll

In the survey, 83 percent of blacks had a favorable opinion of Obama, compared with 31 percent of white voters.

The Dems’ SD’s have a phobia of winners.

That’s it, really. They’re scared of winning. They’ve gotten used to the comfortable position of “guy on the sidelines who can complain but who also takes no responsibility for the mess.”

Hillary did not have a post Super Tuesday strategy.

Honestly, it appears that no one did.

They have to switch!! All the polls with Obama ahead are fake. I can’t believe the other ones out today or the ones with Obama ahead in those states. And polls are going to change. This isn’t November.

Only this June poll makes sense – the one with Hillary leading.

Abbie Hoffman used to duct-tape them to cinderblocks.

Hell, I coulda told ‘em that.

[Completing the metaphor]

- Which means we’ll be trapped behind those wagons while that same dead-horse rots and bloats in the harsh sunlight of unremittent scrutiny.

America needs to listen to its Mothers.

And unfortunately, that is what the Dems are famous for–circle the wagons and commit mass suicide in a self-inflicted shoot-out. You would think we’d learn. Far-left, pie-in-the-sky candidates do not win. Add to this, the Dems tried [badly] to pull a Republican switch out. Except they pulled all the dirty tricks in the primary, against their own.

It does not fly.

The rhetoric [words matter] just do not match the policies [I've giving them credit] that Obama is now espousing. “I am a loser” is written all over this package. When you cannot get the very backbone of the Democratic Party to support the “presumed nominee,” you are DOA.

They can spin it, they can run poll after poll but the truth remains:

This is a losing campaign.

Obama is wrong on energy. He’s wrong on Iraq and Afghanistan [which he didn't even visit when he had the chance]. He’s going to invade Pakistan??? He has no plan about the economy, except raising taxes and doubling our foreign aide [so the world will love us]. He was against NAFTA before he was for it. Against FISA [I will filibuster] until he voted for it and . . .

There’s no need to repeat the reversals. They’re endless and mind-boggling.

The Democratic Party is running another turkey. And this time, I will not follow the Party [il]logic]. This one, broke the bank, completely betrayed my trust and faith.

I am now a Dem for McCain. It gives me no pleasure, but I will not support insanity.

PUMApac.org

Gee, where’d all the trolls go?

*sound of crickets*

Amazing…. And Ramussen has been pretty bias always over-reporting in favor of BO in the primaries and usually wrong.

On the other hand what do you guys make of the WasPo poll? I tend not to trust newspaper&magazines polls.
This one has McCain vs Obama on CiC

72 % McCain
48% BO

But in the GE

50% BO
42% McCain

Any insights?

….

Yeah – It’s weird that a candidate who isn’t being attacked by the Republicans would do better than one who the Republicans are attacking every day. I mean, Al Gore hasn’t had any ads run against him, no one’s claimed he’s a manchurian muslim candidate and he’s doing better than a candidate who is being attacked.

That is so strange.

You know what else is weird in that poll. Obama is ahead by 12 among “all adults.” What’s all adults? I thought they only asked about voters.

That’s a whole 10% of Dems who will vote for McCain!
Wow!

I know, McCain is so much better on the issues. I can trust him on taxes and the war.

No. This is not a face-to-face discussion with the Iranian leaders without preconditions. If you read father down, you will see the diplomat is being sent to Switzerland to just listen. He is not allowed to negotiate, just listen. Obama would be handing Iran diamonds, wads of cash, Sears Tower, etc. This is just Bush genuflecting to a tyrant out of desperation. This is most likely the work of Condi.

I can hardly wait for Newsweek or the LA Times to come out with their skewed sampling of how Obama is actually ahead 15 points. Such epic Orwellian BS. Are ya with me? Roar!

The Republicans are being dainty with him. No major attack ads. Nothing. Obama should be up 20 pts. He is just a liar and a cheat and everyone knows that, even his supporters. Stop drinking that cherry kool-aid.

Obama has blown through almost $300 million. Talk about being loose with cash. He wasted money on the design of a disgusting seal that he only used once, bloggers that have proved ineffective, attack ads that got him no where, etc. He is a spender, he would like to get a look into the Treasury. I wonder if he knows the Treasury is a bottomless pit of debt and that he won’t find any goodies inside. Oh well, his brain is too fried from the crack to realize it. He is just going to ride the American Piggy Bank till it’s bacon. Chewy, Yummy, Smokey BACON. Then he is going to give all that money to Kenya. Keep your money in your wallet. No credit cards. Obama recently had the urge to waste $800 on Tiffany earrings that he used campaign funds to purchase.

The horse will spread disease and knock out the Democratic Party. Oops, looks like Nancy Pelosi wanted to see if she could run a car off of rotting politicians. They are plentiful. She should have started with herself. 4 pct. approval rating. That is lower than O.J. and Michael Jackson. I bet Charles Manson and Osama Bin Laden have a higher approval rating.

Finally you said something right. Yeah, pumastic is growing up. Maybe the kool-aid wore off. Obama is preparing another dose.

Oh, yeah, Obama’s gonna get hit hard. But Gore’s not getting attacked now at all. If he were the candidate, he would be.

I love the way he wants to keep the Bush policies on taxes and Iraq, except now McCain switched his policy on Afghanistan to Obama’s he seems a bit like a flip-flopper.

Obama will be ahead by 30. They have to outdo themselves. The last poll looked too bad for Obama. None of that. How can you say McCain would be the best commander in chief and then select Obama as president? Are they implying they simply don’t care about how the military is conducted during a time when we are at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran is threatening Israel with nuclear weapons, and relations with Russia are ice cold? The polls are so messed up they are sickening. Obama has the Bradley effect times 10. The Obama effect usually means that the poll is 10 points off in his favor. Guilt-ridden whites want to appear to be favoring the minority. The poll people are kind of nasty too, skewing the questions:

Given that George Bush is a Republican and he ruined the economy and McCain is a Republican who will you vote for? McCain or Obama?

See? They mess up the questions so that you are compelled to pick the Obamessiah. It is all devious.

I missed that part; what I found off is that over 65%
of the respondants felt “secure” economically (strobly and somewhat)
How is that representative ?

(note over 50% said the #1 issue was the economy…)

I missed that part; what I found off is that over 65%
of the respondants felt “secure” economically (strongly and somewhat)
How is that representative ?

(note over 50% said the #1 issue was the economy…)

72 + 48 > 100. They must have counted votes for equally qualified. If that is the case Obama really is not looked at as a good commander in chief. Anyway, the polls are skewed. Who could be voting for the compulsive liar? Only his fellow crack heads in Chicago.

More trouble for Oblahblah. The progressives are abandoning ship.

Progressive Action Against Barack Obama’s Right Wing Triangulation

However, I am not convinced that McCain will be the Repug Candidate come the RNC.

Look at how old he is. He talks like an old man, and he stoops low like a tired old man.

This is the bait and switch from Rove and Co.

They intend to skim millions $$ off of the 527′s and then once the Dems lock in with BHO, they will give us Condi or some other Neo-Con

Has anyone asked themselves why the Republicans have not attacked Obama yet??????

Kind of spooky.

My guess is that McCain knew that Obama would self destruct. And, we all know the DNC self destructed on May 31,2008.

This is going to be interesting – the Repubs seem to be saving their money for something big, while they watch numnuts flip flop and self destruct.

I hope Obama save his little self appointed seal – he can maybe display at his Chicago mansion.

Obama has always been a big spender; he just doesn’t want to spend HIS money – whether for a mansion or a plitical campaign.

Rasmussed report lends credence to what PUMA has been saying all along.

HRC still viable.

PUMA 2008

pumastic = the new breed of Obamotron?

more sympatico more “concerned” heh heh

best “change” for you is to show us the link to pay down any Hillary campaign debt ~ I dare you!

c’mon, put up or . . .
hey, you know the drill, sis/bro

BO is running 7 TV ads within 5 minutes in 4 channels in PA doesn’t help him. McCain doesn’t have anything.

Looks like those pro-BO ads doesn’t help him at all.

It’s incredible! Hillary is not even in the news.

LAT has a really good story today about Obama’s whinning on the New Yorker cover

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-newyorker15-2008jul15,0,3558701.story

Put the kool-aid down. Violence in Afghanistan has spiked as of late. McCain is confronted with a growing danger in Afghanistan. What is he supposed to do? Leave Afghanistan to NATO, the NOT ACTUALLY TRUSTWORTHY ORGANIZATION. Besides, Obama’s position, if it is the same, is laughable. Rapidly remove troops from Iraq, troops you say are worn down and broken, and place them into Afghanistan. Also, invade Pakistan with said troops. Ohh, that looks like a deescalation of violence. So while Obama is doing that, Iran will swoop in and take over Iraq, oil will spike to $500, causing a global depression. Hmm… Obama brain is suffering from flipitis. His flip flops have landed him a position where it is not feasible to take the position he is taking and sound credible. Rapid withdrawal, rapid surge? Ha!! OFLIPAFLOPA flipped over a cliff.

The report also goes on to say that:

These numbers help explain why Election 2008 is competitive even though events so heavily favor the Democrats — because the Republicans are on course to nominate their strongest possible general election candidate but the Democrats are not. Perhaps even more importantly, the data suggests that voters don’t see a potential McCain Administration as the third term of President Bush.

pumastic = new breed of Obamatron?

muy simpatico, very “concerned” newcomer
OK, sis/bro ~

time to get real. Please post a working link to help Hillary pay down any campaign debt. Otherwise, you’re out of the closet.

Your posts are veddy veddy suspect

McCain is an old man, but his posture is related to the fractures he suffered after being shot down in Vietnam which were further complicated by his poor medical care by the Vietnamese.

Did you all see this? Neil Cavuto called Hillary “bitchy”:

CAVUTO: But Frank, if she [Hillary] has tried that to little avail in the campaign thus far and she’s trying to run away from this tough, kind of bitchy image that her critics claim that she has, wouldn’t that reinforce that image and actually help Barack Obama? In other words, isn’t she between kind of like a rock and a hard place?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802190004

Contact Fox News NOW! Cavuto MUST BE FIRED!

cavuto@foxnews.com

Obama likes to waste money. He will waste it on meaningless crap. 7 TV ads vs. 0 should mean 20 pts ahead. Think of all your money he will spend on things that don’t work, like those GREEN JOBS. GREEN JOBS that will waste a lot of green and produce a lot of nothing.

Pumastic=politicsmatters from MyDD. She likes to the hit and run.

Hie thee to thy fetid hole under the bridge troll. First, Obambi does NOT represent the ‘far left’ of the Dem party. He’s a centrist to right winger. His voting record clearly shows that. Second, Hillary didn’t ‘find’ her voice until late in the primary and more importantly the primary process was deeply flawed by the ‘caucus’ state procedures.

Hillary still won if not for the illegal actions of the RBC fronted by Donna ‘The Idiot’ Brazile and ‘Screamin’ Howard Dean.

As for what the ‘best thing Hillary supporters can do is…’ I believe Mark Twain spoke most eloquently to you when he said:

It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

Al Gore’s not running. He’s doing better than Obama against McCain.

How sad is that?

Okay folks, here’s a mental challenge: let’s embrace the power of intention. Sane minds joined to promote sane responses by Super D’s in August can only create a postive turn-around for the democratic party. Yeah, I know, this all sounds a tad new-age but the alternative makes me want to puke. Creative sane thinking has to be worth something. If it is not, we all might as well drink the cool aid and call it a day … and a disasterous election in the process. So, Hillary not only wins the nomination, she also wins against McCain in the Presidential race come November. To intend anything less than this is a waste of good, sound thinking.

But everyone is talking about her. Hillary will save the party from itself. The PUMAs will make sure there is voting at the convention. This is at least what I pray for!

Did MyDD get too boring for you?

I suffer from BOphobic. He make me physically ill. I got the same reaction with Bush but after 2 years. BO achieved that within a few months. OBush gives me the creep.

Are you being sarcastic because if you are that doesn’t make any sense. Obama hasn’t gotten any serious attack ads from McCain and he is tied with McCain, even while he runs massive amounts of ads across the country. What do you think will happen when the attack ads appear? Go back to headquarters for reprogramming. You are malfunctioning. Oops, maybe your just using Obama logic.

pumastic, I mean politicsmatters, from MyDD is still here.

pumastic = new breed of Obamatron?

muy sympatico, veddy veddy “concerned”

hey newcomer, your posts are a little sospechoso (suspicious)

As BHO would say “Look . . . etc”
please post a working link to a site that pays down any Hillary campaign debt.

thanx mucho, sis/bro

And unfortunately, that is what the Dems are famous for–circle the wagons and commit mass suicide in a self-inflicted shoot-out. You would think we’d learn. Far-left, pie-in-the-sky candidates do not win. Add to this, the Dems tried [badly] to pull a Republican switch out. Except they pulled all the dirty tricks in the primary, against their own.

It will not not fly.

The rhetoric [words matter] just do not match the policies [I've giving them slack here] that Obama is now espousing. “I am a loser” is written all over this package. When you cannot get the very backbone of the Democratic Party to support the “presumed nominee,” you are DOA.

They can spin it, they can run poll after poll but the truth remains:

This is a losing campaign with a losing candidate.

Obama is wrong on energy. He’s wrong on Iraq and Afghanistan [which he didn't even visit when he had the chance]. He’s going to invade Pakistan??? He has no plan about the economy, except raising taxes and doubling our foreign aide [so the world will love us]. He was against NAFTA before he was for it. Against FISA [I will filibuster] until he voted yea and . . .

There’s no need to repeat the reversals. They’re endless and mind-boggling.

The Democratic Party is running another Turkey. And this time, I will not follow the Party [il]logic]. This one broke the bank, completely betrayed my trust and faith.

I am now a Dem for McCain. It gives me no pleasure, no satisfaction. But I will not support insanity.

PUMApac.org

Hey spastic… I mean pumastic, I really don’t think McCain can hold a candle to Obama on flip flops.

Cavuto didn’t call Hillary bitchy, he called the image that her opponents use against her as bitchy. He is saying that the Obamabots are portraying Hillary as bitchy because she acted tough and that is forbidden of women in the sexist media.

no, that’s not what’s happening. they asked questions re: each alleged “candidate”

72% of McC respondents responded,
48% of Barfy (ditto ditto)

don’t blame U 4 bein’ paranoid tho’

peace

More news…

Tory Leader David Cameron Hearts Obama, Talks about “Progessive Goals” Achieved by “Conservative Means”

http://preview.tinyurl.com/5uouh8

Sound familiar?????

Al Gore, the crazy guy who has a carbon footprint the size of a small country but preaches conservation is doing better than Obama. Hmm…that is sad.

just another flip flop.

I’ve seen Cavuto in interviews with PUMAs and other disaffected Dems. He refers to them as bitter.

He asks if their complaints are just sour grapes.

Hillary would be the Repubs worst nightmare.

Why call for his firing? He didn’t call her bitchy. He said her critics have. He’s right.

So-called liberals and progressives have said far worse.

yep. still flip-flopping around. talking about flipflop candidate and supporters.

Obama is starting a global movement: I’ll blow smoke up your ass and you will vote for me. Politicians love it when they get to devilishly switch sides and get away with it. Obama’s corruptive influence has no limits.

Hillary should just run as independent. She already represents the principles of the good old Democratic Party that once was. Screw the cowardly Dem elites for betraying their own interest in pushing a token candidate.

The point is he’s not running for President. Obama is. I don’t know what his carbon foot print is. He’s said in his own presentation that he”s not perfect in that area and needs to do better. He’s having his home redone, at his own expense, to reduce his carbon foot print. Is Obama doing the same?

Oh! So most of Obama’s supporters think he will be a lousy leader but they are still voting for him? That is scary!!!! It is worse, not better than I believed. The kool-aid must be laced with some of Obama’s crack.

If Mcain and the republicans were trashing Hillary everyday, not to mention the alternate universe PUMAS who would be just as angry if Hillary were the nominee as you all are about Obama, things would be even worst for the dems.

I know but I couldn’t resist. Obama’s footprint is probably huge. Did you see him driving around in the giant Suburban? Now he wants us to eat less, drive less, and raise our thermostats so that other countries will feel better. Obama is a louse, that is why he isn’t doing better.

to alien being known as “Dan R.”

how can i say this politely?

You are more full of shit than a Christmas turkey.

exit polls during the primary showed that Hillary still has 70% support among AAs

Hill and Bill go back several decades with black folk and your theory is batshit wrong and unsupported by any data

bye now

Book ‘im Dan O.

This poll kind of makes me want to cry.
Clinton and Gore doing better than Obama who is the winner, OMG!!! when is the DNC going to wake up?? why do they always elect losers?

I know. And he smells real bad. His wife has to sleep in the other room because of his rancid odor. The BO flows off him as freely as his positions change. He smells of death, yes, the death of the Democratic Party.

we still love you, Mr. Natural

(signed)
R.Crumb

so… we like polls now. cool.

Wait a minute, I learned from Bluto in ‘Animal House’ that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. It was in an important motion picture.

This info , stats being what they are now is amazing, truly amazing.

I’ve been (and am) super usy the last wk and will be a bit longer so I don’t have time to keep up with all this and I’m even ignoring my own blog- so since I’m too busy, could ya’ll please go rub this info info in the noses of the obamabots for me ? I really just don’t have time to do it.

thanks

Not to be a damper, but liberalrapture.com has a post about the likelihood of the DNC allowing Hillary a shot at the nomination.

While you’re there, for a laugh, check out the Obama scriptures post from July 12.

Or the site http://chrismatthewsleg.wordpress.com/

and Ron Fournier took over at AP.

Ron Fourner writes Clinton hit pieces though everybody pretends he is a Clintonista.

According to ABC “In March, 66 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds said they’d “definitely vote” in November; now it’s 46 percent.”

It appears the Obama Fad is dying out, and with it Obama is losing his base.

Unlike Obama, McCain won more than enough pledged delegates to win the nomination. So, McCain will be the Repub nominee.

Obama an the other hand did not win enough pledged delegate, and must get the supers to vote for him at the convention.

And, at the Dem convention, the supers, and pledged delegates can vote for whoever they want, even if they already comitted to someone else.

That would be the best outcome and I really think she could win as an indie. Both Dems and repubs are unhappy with their parties. 2008 is the best opportunity to try something like that! I wonder if Hil just wants to see what happens at the convention? I just can’t see her letting Obama get away with this! Does she have something up her sleeve? I think she has to!

Sorry, I took what you said the wrong way. peace.

kiki..Obama didn’t WIN anything. He is simply the presumptive nominee… not the nominee …. not anything except “presumptive”

And yet I understand your angst that our presumptive nominee …. is doing worse than two other prominent democrats … eee gads.

If Obama is voted in by the SuperDelegates, I hope all voters pay attention and make sure they are not relected …none of them.

No – go read the poll.

They asked:

1)Do you believe McCain would be a good commander-in-chief (or wording close to that)?

72% said yes and I think it was 25% said no – the rest were undecided/not sure

2) Do you believe that Obama would be a good commander-in-chief (or wording close to that)?

48% said yes and actually 48% said NO – the rest were undecided/not sure!

WHY then are people’s answers SO different on the whom would you vote for? Because the commander-in-chief question was SPECIFICALLY referring to how they would handle the military/foreign affairs/conduct of the war.

Barky actually beat McCain on a whole bunch of “domestic” (economy, health care, etc) issues.

But on the c-i-c issue – McCain has a SUBSTANTIAL advantage…and that is why the GOP is going to try to make this campaign about foreign policy/national security issues!

See video from yesterday’s post with HRC where she talked about Barack bringing a “speech” to the WH – she made this point back then and this is WHY we all knew she would be AWESOME and she would be better than McCain on the domestic issues – in short, she knew back then that at the end of the day, the question would be “Who do you want answering the phone at 3am?”

That is the question and we all know that the contry would rather have HER – not just at 3am, but at 3pm – when the kids come home from school and we need to deal with education, health care, energy, and the economy!

GO PUMAS! LET’S ROAR! HRC in 2008!

Old political strategy – no need to take your opponent down when they are taking themselves down.

Best to just stand aside and watch – don’t pile on – otherwise you might get blamed.

Also – the GOP is smart – they DO NOT want to run against HRC – so they are not going to bring Obama down until AFTER Denver.

Many of the party fractures we’re seeing now are a result of Nancy “I didn’t hear any sexism.” Pelosi, Howard “What sexism?” Dean, and Donna “Give us want we want or we’ll riot.” Brazile.

The Dems were given the Congressional majority to control the run-away Executive branch.

What have they done?

Complain that there’s nothing they can do.

Give Bush almost everything he wants.

Allow their subpoenas to be ignored.

Done nothing to stop the rising gas and food prices.

Take Impeachment off of the table.

Vote for FISA after railing against it.

Is it any surprise that they wouldn’t be competent enough to pick the best candidate?

Some don’t think Hillary will be allowed to get the nomination. I agree. Dean and the gang will break every party rule and tradition to prevent that.

Their egos demand nothing less.

I also believe there are millions of “silent PUMAs” out there – they don’t rely on the internet for their news, they’re not particularly active politically, but they are smart enough to know that there is something just not right about Obama, and you can bet they will be voting for McCain in November. I talk to them everyday, at work, in my PA neighborhood, at social functions, and although PUMA is unknown to them, their sentiments and instincts are right in line with ours. PUMA.

Fads always fade. Change is a stale narrative. Obama is not smart enough (without a teleprompter) to come up with anything good.

His opponents are better at it:

“Change that works for him” (RNC ad)

“Keep the Change” (awesome Youtube series)

Is it any surprise that they wouldn’t be competent enough to pick the best candidate?

This is what I thought the first time I heard the “superdelegates” explained to me. You can’t make idiots into smart people by sticking a “SMART PERSON” label on their lapel.

SuperDs were created because the Dems had a habit of picking total fucking losers. So you take those jackasses who pick total fucking losers and put a red cape around their necks, and this makes them smart? How’s that work again?

Sounds like a fish out of water. LOL.

Yeah, but we’re talking about Democrats, here. These are the guys who make Neville Chamberlain look like Albert Einstein. Of COURSE they will find the worst possible total loser in the history of the known universe and coronate him The World’s Biggest Losers.

Congratulations, Barky! Of all the losers, you came in first!

And if my cat had balls, she’d be a tom.

Dan R has a good point!

I would love for Hillary to be the nominee but unless something comes forth which COMPLETELY destroys Obama, blacks will stick with him.

SDs fear that AA will leave the party for good if O is not the nominee. I do wonder when he loses, will AA leave? I know it sounds crazy but I think that possibility exists. From SDs perspective, they would rather lose 1 election than to rip the party apart. I really believe they know he can’t win but to say so is to invite calls of racism.

The whitey tape may or may not exist but I know there’s footage of him and Michelle in that church, during a Wright anti american/racist sermon, clapping and nodding their heads along with the kids of course.

This should be the focus!

I agree. JSND estimates 2.5 M people in the coalition. If everyone one of us knows 1 other Democrat outside of the coalition that isn’t supporting Obama, then thats 5 M. I think the number of NObama voters is higher than 5 M. I know at least 5 Dems outside of JSND that are not supporting Obama.

I went to the Tom Petty concert tonight and Obama had get out the vote and where asking people if the needed to register to vote I said I do and I took the clip board and wrote PUMA across it and handed back to an unhappy volunteer.

You are correct in this assumption. I meet lots of PUMAs — and I let them know that there is a huge group of us — that they are not alone. They walk off with a big smile and often say — “I’m a PUMA”. One of my friends lifted her fist in the air and shouted PUMA! She was in a rural area — so she could do this un-noticed. Word of mouth is a powerful way to let others know that they are not alone.

These new found PUMAs are really angry at the dNC. In all my days I’ve not seen so much anger directed at the leadership of a party.

So it isn’t surprising that Obama’s fund raising is taking a nose dive.

It seems to me that he has insulted the core groups that donate — well except for the offshore fellas who donated online to give him that huge bottomless well he could use to outspend the other candidates.

PUMA

spread the word — let people know about PUMA!

…because after stealing 4 pledged delegates from votes cast for HRC and giving them to BO, with his approval; and converting 30 delegates from votes cast for “Uncommitted” to BO, again without objection, they still could not muster support in the hearts and minds of the voters. And they know once these voters figure out that reversing just the Michigan shenanigans – even reducing each delegate by 1/2 – the difference between the candidates in pledged delegates shrinks to 35. And that everyone knowing this truth would support a more equitable result to the nomination.

Tony Resko is doing it for him

good for yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

CLAPS –CLAPS -CLAPS FOR YOU

BRAVO…….

jibjab’s new cartoon:

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/jibbin-mccain-1.html

Cool is the only reason you support Obama. In the case, most of us are not cool with you. Now grow up and learn to think.

OMG. that person is laughable. but there is a pattern of the troll “believe” as well…this person is on all blogs here spamming.

troll alert. report this spammer to admin.

That a person who is not even running as a candidate this year, and who is attacked by Republicans constantly for his courageous stance on global warming, to be doing as strongly as he is against the intellectually inferior Obama, is certainly something we PUMAs can cheer about!

I will stand with Hillary, wherever and whenever to the bitter end. I will hold out hope that she will still win the nomination this year, and if she doesn’t, then I will draft her in 2012.

Hillary For Life!

Every Obamabot that comes here bleats constantly about how many Dems signed up this year, and bleats even more loudly that those Dems will go for their man.

Yet, one little malfunctioning bot thinks that 10% of Dems defecting is a small number.

Hmmm. Maybe you should all get together to get the message straight.

Not cherry – strawberry – Strawberry Fields Forever. Living is easy with eyes closed. Misunderstanding all you see. Obama meets the Beatles.

pumastic, it is strange. Why are they putting Gore into the mix? He has never had a campaign. I read something recently about looking for a compromise candidate. If they try to put Gore above Hillary, I’m not sure I would vote for him this time around.

Consider it done.

Get some rest.

just for fun http://sendables.jibjab.com/

Oh. My. God.!

That is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day!

Thank you so much for the laugh! (and the tip.)

There cannot be many people under 50 going to a Tom Petty concert -surely?

70% of AA would. And now that the race card is back in the deck, that number should grow by November. In any case, they won’t be voting for McCain.

I got one of those letters too yesterday. I took out my Sharpie, marked NO F***ING WAY and PUMA! on the card and mailed it back using their return envelope.

This happened in Feb. It was wrong then and wrong now, but a little late to write FOX.

And the Obama campaign knows who and where they are. In fact, they now all KINDS of things about lots and lots of people.

I do believe I know understand his flip-flop on FISA. Am I the only one who finds this downright creepy?

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/07/16/obama_data/

pumastic: Does it bother you Gore was included in that poll? You are so busy being clever, you can’t see the implicaion? OK, if you are too dense, I’ll lay it out for you. SDs can’t be happy about the flip flopping Obama, but they are afraid to back Hillary because of all the threats. Al Gore waits forever to endorse Obama (maybe you should look for a video of that through different eyes), Gore has name recognition, he won the Nobel Peace Prize and Hollywood likes him. He has never been a cantidate for this election, but he polls better than Obama. Am I getting through to you? There’s one other little thing you probably will dismiss, but shouldn’t. Bill and Hillary will endorse and really campaign for him. President Gore anyone?

Obama has a policy on Afghanistan? I’m sure that will come as a surprise to the members of the SubCommittee on Foreign Relations he chairs.

Yes, and remember this is the generation with the attention span /shelf life of a May Fly.

Andy, I’m retired now, but I am a Statistical Analyst and my first job was a contract to analyse an already conducted survey on crime victimization. One of the questions, “Have you been the victim of car theft in the last five years?” Since there was no seperate question for theft of car parts, the survey takers added it to car theft. One poll a few months ago by MSNBC stated it was weighted to include 100 more African Americans than their percentage of population and they offered no explanation.

They are waiting for the Dems to nominate the Fraud…if they release anything now…the dems would nominate Hillary..then Dems win the white house…JMO

I think once Nobama is the Selected Nominee and picks his VP more democrats will defect I’m sure there are many who are waiting to see who the VP pick is. Has there been any polling data on how many people have left the DNC by changing thier voter registration cards? Just curious..

Well you are generous, Andrew, but really, who the hell cares what you think about sexism? You are male and white. When in your lifetime have you been discriminated against? I’ve heard these kinds of things from Cavuto before and he isn’t making any valid point except to remind people of Republican talking points from fifteen years ago.

It’s never too late to protest this kind of slime and he said it under the pretense of someone else’s opinion. He is good at doing this and it’s time to stop.

Hillary Clinton is NOT in the race against McCain and never will be! The poll might as well be against McCain and the Easter Bunny!

Hillary has tried to have it both ways: to batten on her husband’s nostalgic popularity while simultaneously claiming to be a victim of sexism.

Well, which is it? Are men convenient sugar daddies or condescending oppressors?

As her presidential hopes have begun to evaporate, Hillary has upped the ante in the crusading feminist department. Her surrogates are beating the grievance drums, trying to scare every angry female out of the bush.

From that rag-tag crew, she will build her army. Let the red flags fly! Hillary is positioning herself as the Crucified One, betrayed, mocked, flogged, and shunted aside for the cause of Ultimate Womanhood. But doesn’t this saccharine melodrama undermine the central goals of feminism?

For all her claims of media bias and ill treatment by her male fellow candidates, Hillary has got off absurdly softly in this campaign. No one — neither her rivals nor mainstream journalists — has had the guts to explore or even list the bursting catalogue of past Clinton scandals, in which Hillary was nearly always hip deep.

Charges of sexism have become Hillary’s rote strategy for evading scrutiny. But by entangling the noble movement of modern feminism with her own knotty psychodrama, Hillary is reinforcing hoary stereotypes about women. Will every losing woman candidate now turn on the waterworks and claim to be maimed by male pride and prejudice?

The biggest barrier to women winning the White House is that the president must serve as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and thus convey strength and purpose to defend the nation. Hillary shrewdly tried to address this gender problem by getting herself appointed to the Senate Armed Services Committee, where she absorbed information and slowly gained the trust of high-ranking military officers.

However, the plan went awry when, servilely following polling data about national opinion, she voted for the War Resolution authorising George W Bush to invade Iraq. That fateful decision, meant to shore up her military credibility, would alienate her from the left wing of her party and ironically boost the presidential hopes of a virtual unknown, Obama, who had publicly opposed the war.

Women contemplating the Hillary precedent would do better to ignore evanescent polls and study military history instead. When women try to masquerade in the lion skin of military bravado, it leads to embarrassments like Hillary’s daffy tale about running for cover under sniper fire in Bosnia — which insulted the US military by implying it would put a First Lady and her daughter in danger.

Then there was Hillary’s threat to “obliterate” Iran should it attack Israel, a shocking word-choice that betrayed naivete about military options and indifference to their human consequences. Feminist ideologues sniffle about how hard the road is for women candidates. Hillary, it is alleged, has had to be both tough and soft, masculine and feminine.

So that’s the rationale for her head-spinning personality changes? For every new state or region, she trots out a new tone or accent, from the crisp to the cornpone. It’s crude and patronizing —which is partly why she has surprisingly lost support among her peers, educated upper-middle-class women.

No, the first woman president must have a consistent character and steady demeanour. She will also, however, need a mountain of cash, crucial for the blizzard of advertising that unfortunately constitutes national campaigns in the US. Here Hillary, tutored by her husband, has definitely blazed a trail.

There’s no one better at flattering and soaking the rich and famous. But she has blown through her hoard with breathtaking profligacy. After raising well over $100 million, she is now more than $20 million in debt and sinking deeper every day.

Clamouring hosts of small vendors remain callously unpaid in her wake. A prudent money manager she clearly is not — hence the reluctance of so many voters to put Hillary in charge of the US budget. Sexism has nothing to do with it.

It’s July. The time for outrage may have been February or March. I mean, the Democratic leadership heard that and worse about Hillary for months before that and since. Now Cavuto needs to be fired? Funny, Olbermann, he of the room comment, is still there.

It makes no sense to ask for a firing of someone referring to what someone else said. I am no fan of Cavuto. Far from it.

Call for the firing of those that made direct comments of their own. Like Olbermann and Shuster. So-called liberals or at least moderates.

Some facts, Hillary’s debt is down to about $5 million, probably less by now.

Hillary voted for authorization for war not going to war.

Hillary and Bill were targets of Republican witch hunts but the only thing proven was Bill couldn’t keep his pants zipped.

Sniper fire in Bosnia story was cleared up a long time ago. Hillary may have exaggerated the story a bit purely based on information she was given but I don’t believe she purposely lied about it.

You are obviously too lazy to even find out the truth so that must be why you support a candidate that sat in a racist, American hating church for 20 years. Or hangs around with criminals and domestic terrorists. Who can’t keep his stories straight or stick to what he says he stands for. I’LL TAKE HILLARY ANY DAY….

by the way. you didn’t offer to name the many scandals Hillary was knee deep in.

Sexism…you don’t think being called a bitch, cunt, being the subject of crude jokes referring to your gender is sexism?? You must not know what sexism is.

LMAO…you go girl!!

It’s been clear for a while now that Hillary is the better GE candidate. But I don’t expect her to be nominated. It would ruin years of planning by Dean, Brazile and Oprah if it is not the black candidate who makes make an acceptance speech on the anniversary of MLK’s “I have a dream” speech. And a stadium full of PUMAs just isn’t what they had in mind when they reserved Invesco Field.

I’ve heard this charge before. Hillary supporters have raised money to help pay her debts. Name the small vendors. All of them. Hillary’s not hiding behind anything.

She’s suspended her campaign and has raised millions for Obama in the interim.

I’ve been around for a while. I’ve lived in other countries. I know sexism when I hear it.

How fiscally responsible is Obama when he allots millions for slumlords? The said slumlords don’t improve the properties. In Obama’s Chicago home district.

Did he call them to account? No. Although he pushed for the funding he now claims he didn’t know these people.

If you have the names of said vendors I will personally email them to Hillary’s website and ask her about when they will be paid.

I will hold her accountable. That’s more than you Obama supporters will do for Obama on Rezko, Ayers, Wright, FISA, and Iraq.

WOW you are an idiot! One in 5 actually translates to 20% not 10% like you say. LOL!!! No wonder you support Obama.

“Republicans are on course to nominate their strongest possible general election candidate but the Democrats are not.”

LOL.

Obama = Bush’s 3rd term.

nice one

ABC Donna Brazile said that some want Hilary on the ballot.and she don’t see if that will happen.Ok look out another”My Mama tought me how to play fair” moment came on. Donna Brazile needs to fire herself and take the rest of the spinless people with her.

Well for one thing it’s Hillary’s right to be on the ballot and go to Denver to make her case.

NOOBAMA NEVER!

Hillary 08
mccain o8

ABC Donna Brazile said that some want Hilary on the ballot.and she don’t see if that will happen.Ok look out another”My Mama tought me how to play fair” moment came on. Donna Brazile needs to fire herself and take the rest of the spinless people with her.

Larry noquarters had the leter that Hilary written to Bush about not having the war.

Well for one thing it’s Hillary’s right to be on the ballot and go to Denver to make her case.

NOOBAMA NEVER!

Hillary 08
mccain o8

even though the Clinton administration was the BEST administration as far as African American progress is concerned, even though they did more for AA’s than any other administration or group in the world, 90% turned their backs on them. This can be won without the African American sector if Hillary is the candidate. They don’t hold all the power of the democratic party and should not be catered to any more than any other group. We need to worry about the ENTIRE Democratic party instead of 17% of it. Hell, even that homosexuals make up 10%, add in the independents that are anti-McCain and it more than makes up for the 17% that BO CLAIMS would be lost (they would actually back Clinton because those over 30 years old remember the good times of the Clinton years).
This is NOT barack obama’s country to rule or destroy. Clinton may very well hold an AUGUST surprise that will change the entire game.

Super delegates led by Pelosi, Dean, Brazile ,ET AL “but we CANT Nominate anybody but the chosen one! there will be riots! besides, he is the CHOSEN ONE!” ‘ ize got news for youse supers, THERE WILL BE RIOTS ANYWAY IN NOVEMBER WHEN MCAIN WINS AND THEY WILL BE FAR ,FAR WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! only because you and the likes of Al Sharpton ,Rev Wright and their ilk will DEMAND THEM!!!!!!!!!

Is it possible in this day and age for one individual to HONESTLY be as illinformened and ignorant of reality as you? I can’t help but think the reality is that instead of illinformed and ignorant you are just a koolaide saturated cult follower of a racist, misogynistic, oppertunistic, hoodwinking, bamboozling, America hatting conman. So why don’t you go somewhere in a quiet coener and have biblical knowledge with yourself? MORON!

That “talking points” that Hillary did not have a strategy after Super Tuesday is an MSNBC/General Electric, Obama memo. It covers the caucus cheating that occured early and often. It covers the fact that the caucus’ in Nevada were stacked for BO by placing Caucus voting locations in hotels along the strip that only allowed the Culinary Union workers there to vote at their job after the Union’s endorsement of BO. Those hotel caucus locations were allocated more delegates per participants than other caucus locations throughout the state. It covers the fact that even though Hillary won 11 of 12 contests, she only received 5 more delegates than the loser of the the same contests. The DNC had the deck stacked for BO from the beginning. I’m looking at you Donna Brazille and Howard Dean. You’ve destroyed the progressive party and split us in half. The superdelegates can still right the ship. We’ll see if they wise up. Looks like BO won’t be having all thatmuch money to help the down-ticket candidates anyway. They were counting on that fundraising machine of his. They just didn’t realize that the source of his money was gonna get locked up.

Has to be an O-bot with those math skills 1 out of 5 is 20%.

Tricia,
D you know who the person was working for? Did they have some kind of a badge on? Obama has been paid Citizen’s Services Inc. almost a million $$$$. His entries on why he was paying them is not truthful. I found the sane group used in a campaign in MD…connected to voter fraud.

What about the $100,000 grant Obama arranged for a supporter in Chicago for an organiv garden I think it was. Where is that garden? No one can find it!

And Obama’s troubles keep on getting worse….check out ACORN.

Think about it–Obama had all the cards in this game.

He had America’s desire for hope and change.
He had scads of money.
He had the mainstream media eating out of his hand.
He had the progressive blogosphere pimping for him.
He had some good speeches he’d cribbed from other sources.
He had the race card to ruin the Clintons’ standing with African Americans.
He had all the misogyny card–and he knew how to use it.
He had an army of enthusiastic mindless young thugs working for him.
He had the Clinton haters on his side.
He had a big bus to put people under.
He had much of the media and the internet gamed in his favor.
He had all the old smears against the Clintons the Right made up during the 90′s.
He had an arsenal of Stalinist tactics to help him along the way.
He had threats and intimidation galore (this is what Obamites mean by “a brilliant campaign”)
He had the DNC rigging the nomination for him from A to Z…

…and yet–with all those advantages, with the entire game rigged in his favor–Obama is still faltering.

Hats off, my friends. The Democrats have managed to pick The Worst Candidate Ever™.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Ro3TATqG8

Rep. John Lewis easily won his primary in Georgia yesterday. So much for Obama supporters’ threats to unseat Hillary supporters.

Off topic: a suggestion.

Let’s support No Quarter site with $5 – or any amount you want – contribution today.

Yeah, they’d be saying he thinks he invented the internet or something.

Yesterday at work I was talking to someone I had never discussed politics with before. She was also a 50 year old woman. After a few minutes she told me she was always a life-long republican and I laughed and said I was the opposite.

A moment later she was asking about “writing in” a candidate and I told her it would be a wasted vote.

Then it hit me – this life-long republican woman was for Hillary just like I am and is so upset she didn’t get the nomination that she too feels robbed.

We bonded instantly and both agreed to campaign for Mac if Hillary doesn’t get in.

I wish I had a nickle for every person I know who has told me they will never vote for ob. The polls have always confirmed he cannot win – even when those polls show him ahead by some small number.

When life-long Dems and Reps see eye to eye and bond the world has gone way wrong!

They’re all like believe. She has been going as Ted lately.

If you talk to regular people, you have to wonder how BO even scores 30% in the polls! I don’t know how they come up with results that show him anywhere near Hillary or McCain. They must be manipulated big time! BO’s baggage should preclude him being elected dog-catcher in the most corrupt city in the nation. And, just think, if you were considering employing someone who refused to bring in his birth certificate and just told you to look at an online facsimile, would you hire him?!
Senator Obama, WHERE IS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE??
It must be Hillary or Mac!!

This must be your first venture into satire.

They have been so “velvet paws” with Obama that it is frustrating to me. The person attacking Obama IS Obama. His numbers would be better if he shut up for two weeks. No backtracking …. and no opportunity to make more tape that is easily disputed by words (just words?) caputed at other times and places that clearly dispute other positions taken. The guy is a walking wrecking ball for his own campaign. Can’t WAIT for the fundraising numbers to be released. At some point he’s going to have to show them. And it is only going to show that by spurning public financing he demonstrated AGAIN … just how bad his judgment is. Sucks to support him, doesn’t it? At least those of us who supported HRC know that she got screwed versus daily screwed herself!

I think they would try to do a Gore / Obama ticket. I wish they would do Gore / Clinton or vice versa, that would be inconsistent with the pattern of this election. Could you imagine what a slap in the face to the Clintons that Gore / Obama would be?

Pay her debt!

https://contribute.hillarycampaign2008.com/form.html?sc=2492

2.5 million people, at least, voting against Obama. That should frighten the Democratic party.

M1M’s latest YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgJXDXPd4m8

They have made better one’s, but hey who knows?

Every piece of evidence must be placed before the public, and the SD’s.

No Obama!

Review your math.

It’s 20% of Clinton supporters. Clinton supporters are 50% of Democrats.

20% of 50% = 10%.

Of course! The GOP nominated the one Republican who could win this year; while the DNC “selected” the one who will lose. The GOP process is straight forward, winner takes all. The strongest rises to the top quickly. The DNC manipulates the process. Totally inadequate losers like NObama can manipulate the manipulation. Scam the system.

Someone help the market. It’s melting.

Back to your regularly scheduled outrage…

So superdelegates run Rasmussen? Thanks for that information. I hope you’ll tell me more about it.

What kind of advertising would Avis run if they actually pulled ahead of Hertz?

The Democratic party is happy with its also ran status. And when they do nothing for Americans, they can put all of the blame on the big, bad, Republicans. Maybe we should be working on to remold the party of people who want to WIN. Not the party for losers.

I thought that you can’t trust a candidate if he changes because conditions on the ground change. Thanks for letting me know that it’s ok.

Every other poll is BS. But this poll isn’t. It’s the truth!

My personal favorite is how Barry voted for the Cheney energy policy and has not one idea of his own about energy conservation. Is that your very favorite, too?

Obama & the DNC: The Riff is Much Deeper
Obama and Damage to the Brand [Byron York]

I just got off the phone with a well-connected Democrat, trying to get a better read on this Democrats-miffed-with-Obama stuff. It’s real, he said, and more serious than the mostly process concerns outlined in the Politico story. Yes, party leaders are irritated at the Obama campaign’s go-it-alone style. “Another Democrat said that they want to do this without help from anyone inside the Beltway,” my source says, “because they want to arrive in town and not owe anyone anything. Which is a big gamble, because if it doesn’t work, everyone is going to blame the hell out of them.” But the bigger problem is the after-effect of Obama’s extensive “refinements” in policy. “What they thought they would do is improve their position on issues by moving Obama to the center,” the source says. “And what they failed to account for is that in improving their position politically, they underestimated the damage to the brand that was going to be inflicted by this.”
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

You need to read it again. He said it was the image her critics said she had …. don’t do a Barry and the New Yorker … and take offense where none is offered.

Hillary could win without black voters, because she could siphon off Republicans and attract an unprecedented Latino turnout. Because of the recent immigration rumbles, Latino voters have been registering in significantly high numbers. Blacks only make up 13% of the population, so Latinos and Jewish voters in key urban areas could influence the vote in big blue states just as effectively as blacks, but also deliver swing states like Florida, New Mexico and Nevada. Obama said he could rewrite the electoral map. BS. Look at his numbers now. It’s very close. Hillary won all the swing states in the primaries, and Obama is barely ahead by the margin of error and slipping.

I don’t think that they will be dainty with him much longer. They will undoubtedly let loose after the convention and they have been given a lot of ammunition to use compliments of the Golden One himself.

One of the ads that McCain runs here says “don’t hope for change, vote for it. McCain.” I find it very effective. His words will bite him in the ass.

They picked a significant, historic date for their convention and back an “appropriate” candidate back in to fit the date. Case closed.

I wish they wouldn’t call it triangulation. “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” was triangulation. Welfare reform was triangulation. Hillary’s comment about LBJ, MLK and the 1964 Civil Rights Act was triangulation. But Obama flat out broke his word on FISA. Triangulation is not a euphemism for lying, it is the art of compromise.

I bet more people understand what the bunny stands for!

Yes, dumb dumb. SD’s run Rasmussen, and they’ve decided they like Al Gore better than Obama now. So, they’ve just made up some polls. Now get lost.

You really do have tunnel vision, don’t you? All polls are skewed toward Obama. We’re fairly certain this one is too (a BS poll as you call it). Even with that advantage, Obama is still behind. That’s why it’s amazing.

OMG BO and McCain are neck to neck! The DNC HAS to be freaking out. This year, with Bush getting the lowest approval of any president in U.S. history- a Dem should be a shoe in.

I would hope the supers would come through for the party and do the right thing, vote Hillary. But are we talking about people like Steve Ybarra??? I knew that POS, and it’s an OUTRAGE that someone so repulsive and STUPID should be given such power. Trust me, Ybarra as a super delegate with more voting power than the people is a grotesque miscarriage of justice.

Terrified of riots, I think the corrupt, cowardly DNC will back BO. And they will lose to McCain.

And I don’t know wtf is going on with McCain and his softball with BO. He HAS to be waiting until next month to really attack. Because so far he has been a huge wimp.

There is trouble in Barkyland. Nancy and Harry didn’t know about Mile High stadium until they saw it on the news like regular people. They are pissed. Doesn’t matter, Mile High statium is not near big enough to hold his head or ego.
Howard Dean is doing a bus tour to try to rally somebody, anybody, with the messiah, lord barky. All Pumas need to be ready when Howard comes through their state. I am really hoping he comes to Missouri. He will get a “show me” welcome like he has never seen. yeah right

same here for Indiana

McCain hasn’t been promising to bring our troops home from Iraq immediately upon taking office. He has said consistently that he will rely on conditions on the ground. Hillary said the same thing. They are both realists.

Obama suckered you with his antiwar rhetoric, but he did so at the expense of his credibility. We’ve always known that he made fantastical promises. Bill Clinton called it a fairy tale and got called a racist.

So, to answer your question YES. But it is not okay, if a candidate is a liar who will say or do anything to win. McCain has been right about Iraq. Obama sided with Bush, actually, and he was wrong. Obama has never been to Afghanistan. He missed three of his Foreign Affairs Committee meetings, and he never held one of his own subcommittee with NATO oversight. He was too busy running for office in his first year at the Senate.

not to worry…that is exactly what the Repubs are doing. They should not be underestimated. They are ruthless, tactless, guiltless and have no shame whatsoever. They know there is a very real possibility that Hillary could be the nominee. Nothing is set in stone until the convention. Once that is over watch shit hit the fan.

“The GOP nominated the one Republican who could win this year; while the DNC “selected” the one who will lose.”

This is why McCain wasn’t nominated over George Bush to run against Al Gore.

I have my Party affiliation change registration form in my pocket book waiting to mail it after I vote for McCain in Nov.

Unless Hillary is nominated, I am finished with this stupid Party. A Party of card-carrying idiots, radical liberal nutjob brats and spineless vindictive assholes.

link? I can’t find it on the rasmussen site thanks!

I remember an interview with Rove where he said he was going to run a completely different campaign from 2004. (So far so good.) He said McCain easily has such an advantage with nat’l sec, that he does not need to push that in this campaign. Of course, he didn’t say what that something else would be, but I think it will be reform.

Is this a case of plagiarism or did you just forget to give credit to Obama worshipper, Camille Paglia?

I don’t believe that all of the young men who voted for BO in the primaries will bother to vote in November. I know a lot of young male students, and I think a lot of them were voting BO just to make sure Hilly didn’t win.

I say this because I heard the nasty sexist remarks they made against Hillary. They seemed more against Hillary than pro-BO.

I think they are too immature still, too easily threatened by the idea of a female president. So they voted for BO. Now that they believe Hillary is out, they will relax back to their homophobia and video games.

Mature men are secure enough in their masculinity to vote Hillary. Mature men are sexy.

I think you’re right wodie! You HAVE to be right, because I can’t believe McCain would have such bad advisers. And I CAN’T WAIT for the crap to hit!

I haven’t given up hope for the Whitey tape. That’s a coup de gras. (I don’t know if I spelled that right!

That’s why they always say the youth never vote. They kept saying it was different this year, but it’s not. They don’t know how to handle disappointment. They don’t have the wisdom of life experience to recognize BS when they hear it. The media knows how to steer them, too. Geraldine Ferraro was right. Obama is lucky to be black, young, handsome and with an exotic background. He can deflect criticism as prejudice or insecurity. People are reluctant to attack his record.

Pelosi will first inject her face with secrections from the carrion horse.

Janis, stop it. You’re making entirely too much sense. LMFAO.

I actually think you could be right. Especially if you factor in the latino voting bloc that is tremendously pro-Clinton.

B0 needed AAs to win the Primary and to use as leverage over the idiot Democratic Party leaders. But he never was going to win with only the AA voting bloc. That’s why he’s tanking now.

He lost Clinton’s supporters, he’s losing many of his own supporters and he’s not getting all of the Republicans/Independents that he was boasting about in the Primary.

According to the Black Agenda Report, “AAs made themselves irrelevant” during this Primary by overwhelmingly supporting B0. If he loses the GE, we will be even more irrelevant or if Hillary were somehow to get nominated and AAs stayed home in anger and she won anyway, it would be a catastrophe for us as a voting bloc.

If Hillary gets the nomination by some incredible stroke of destiny, the only way to get our relevancy back would be to overwhelmingly support her. McCain would have serious problems if that happened.

Boring, Mary, Real Boring.

They’ll circle the wagons and try to put the fear of judicial appointments in us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIcKkKID8k

‘Here Comes the Judge, Here Comes the Judge, Here Comes the Judge!’

for everyone


Here is another Mainstream Media (MSM) failure: Hezbollah is arming missile war heads with chemical weapons.
Israel ended the invasion of Lebanon because the United Nations promised a security force that would stand between Syria and Hezbollah. The U.N. organization so called is the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL). UNIFIL is so worthless that it does not even attempt to stop the flow of arms from Syria to Hezbollah and yet is quick to point out any potential violations of Israel’s agreement to cease hostility inside Lebanon aimed at Syria and Iran’s client terrorist organization known as Hezbollah.
Now with speculation that Israel (and some hint America) may operate a preemptive strike on Iran’s nuclear capabilities we read that Hezbollah is arming their missiles with Chemical WMD.
The United Nations is a piece of irresponsible dung and UNIFIL is the dung client doing the dhimmi wishes of radical Islam which is determined to wipe Israel off the map.
JRH 7/16/08
Tags: chemical wmd, client terrorists, gwot, hezbollah, iran, israel, missiles, syria, war
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Christy,
“Coup de Grace” is what you are looking for.
“Coup de Gras” could be translated as “Blow of Fat”, which I find equally appropriate!

Nobody has won the nomination yet so the nomination would not be “taken away” from Sensator Obama. Neither Senator Clinton or Senator Obama has won enough pledged delegates for the nomination. Only at the convention when the Super Delegates actually cast their votes will there be a nominee. That is why Senator Obama is referred to as the “Presumptive” (presumptuous) Nominee.

I send him a four page letter explaining why I will not donate to his campaign and why I won’t vote for him in November. I send a copy of this letter with a separate cover letter to the DNC when I get their begging letters. Needless to say I don’t put my postage on it.

There is time for the SD’s to do the intelligent thing. I think a lot of them want to save-face even if it means egg is still dripping down their chins.

Obama is an empty suit, an off-the-rack kind of one.

And this is why the last day of the convention has been moved to a 75,000 seat stadium, where less than 1 percent of those in attendance will be actual delegates, and 99 percent will be True Believers there to make certain that everything goes as Pre-Ordained and that any dissent is quickly and ruthlessly snuffed out.

All this talk about “PUMAs planning a coup” is pure Projection on the part of Obama supporters. As their candidate’s numbers tank, it is OBAMA who will need to overturn the will of the delegates who will try their best to stave off disaster in November by nominating Hillary.

This is why Dean, Pelosi etc are desperate to avoid even a VOTE at the convention. There must be NO DISSENT. NO DEVIATION.

What does “Democracy” have to do with “Democratic Party,” anyway?

Jimmy Carter had an equal amount of disdain for the “insiders” when he ran.

Once he was elected, he could get nothing done because he could never establish a decent relationship with the “insiders.”

And through his entire presidency, the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress. Didn’t matter.

Obama will be far worse because he hasn’t got one-tenth of Carter’s basic decency and humility.

What does “Democracy” have to do with “Democratic Party,” anyway?

When democracy gets in the way of party unity, democracy must be thrown under the bus!
When democracy gets in the way of national unity, democracy must be thrown under the bus!
The Democratic Convention has been cancelled!
The general election has been cancelled!
Obama’s inauguration will take place a RFK Stadium on August 2, 2008.

Signed Donna Brazile

You got that right, Mimi. I’m all set to switch.

I’m glad to hear that! John Lewis is a great man and I really felt for him over the primary season.

This is an intriguing story– the divide within the party.

All this talk of “brand” sounds trendy and is creepy though.

I’m with you, MaryPat. The FISA vote is perfectly and frighteningly consistent with behavior observed among Obama supporters on the web: “That Hillary troll, let’s find out who she is and where she lives.” “Let’s get her.” Obama supporters attacked phone lines and computers of Geraldine Ferraro, Governor Rendell, and other prominent supporters of Hillary.

It’s creepy alright. And then some.

Heck, Hillary is beating AL GORE in that poll! Mwuhahahaha, there may be justice in the world after all.

Your snarky post makes logical error. If “not being attacked by Republicans” were sufficient reason for an elder Democrat to get high poll numbers, then wouldn’t Joe Biden and Bill Richardson (to name just two) be doing better than Barack Obama, too? Hm … Come to think of it, maybe every Democrat who entered this primary would be doing better than Obama at this point if the polls were to include them.

Maybe it’s not to late to start the whole damn process over?

Mr. X is correct. It’s pretty clear that Obama cheated to win the caucuses. You can’t blame the candidate who didn’t cheat for running a poor campaign … well you can, but that would be endorsing a non-democratic method for choosing candidates.

The Super Delegates came about because of Jesse Jackson from what I remember. Now isn’t that sweet? I also heard that Al is on the V.P. list…sure hope that’s wrong!An article in a local paper reported that Gore would not get “O” any votes in Gore’s home-town! The polls have been all over the place, but there are some listing 28% undecided. That may be the best indicator for November…although one would think those people would have a clue by now!

Mr. Natural, I did that very thing a while back by stuffing the envelope with as much high-density paper as I could.

However, I got a little paranoid and scratched out bar codes on the envelope — didn’t want Obama’s nazi’s tracking me down.

Anyone know how those envelopes work? What does the U.S. P.O. use to prove it’s a paid-for envelope? I don’t want to scratch out that bar code.

http://wonkette.com/401171/hillary-clinton-will-never-stop-running-for-public-office#more-401171

Wonkette has picked up the Rasmussen story–so this will get more attention.

Go there and vote in the poll:
a) cover was satire
b) cover is tasteless and offensive
c) who cares?

I voted c.

If the insiders had kept out of this, Hillary would have been the great primary election story of my lifetime. She came back and built momentum the real way. By showing people she had the stuff, by overcoming their resisitence, by convincing voters.

She convinced voters.

That’s what makes real winners.

To Dem Party Big Tops:

Hillary needs to be on the ballot for official nomination in Denver and you need to vote for her if you want a DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!! It’s not too late you maniacs! Do the right thing!

We want Hillary. And for me, McCain is a farrrrr away second choice, but I will vote for him in protest. I will never vote for Obama, so DO THE RIGHT THING! Most of us Hill democrats don’t want Obama OR McCain. Don’t make us choose the lesser of two evils. DNC, et al: You will be to blame for a McCain presidency.

“Change” your minds, and save America. WAKE UP.

Obama can’t win!

Frankly, it scares me. I wouldn’t want to be in a stadium with his people.

They honestly do scare me. The stories from the caucuses and from Hillary staff workers as well as the thuggish attitude on HuffPo and the amount of hatred he’s unleashed, sheer negativity, makes this cautious soul think twice about exercising my right to protest.

Christy……you could be right. If this was truly as sexist as some of us suspect, the motive to hustle for Obama will be over.

The letter yesterday shows the down-ticket problem. He’s setting up his own separate offices in states and basically showed up to the Democratic meeting with regulars and said that his volunteers would NOT be canvassing for other Democrats. That put the head of the party, an Obama supporter, into a huge bind. Now, he’s got 2 fundraising efforts going? Democrats competing against Democrats?

He’s sucking all the money up for himself.

Citizen’s Services Inc.? Perfect name for an astroturf operation AND hard to google.

Wow. What is 1024 Elysian Fields Road, New Orleans all about. It is the epicenter of nonprofit activist or “activist” groups. What’s going on there?

http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organizations/new_orleans_la_70117.asp

Jon Steward (The Daily Show) had a great take on the New Yorker cover, something along the lines of Obama should not have called the cartoon that depicts him as a Muslim extremist “Tasteless and Offensive” because you know who gets upset about cartoons? Muslim extremists!

I think they will not unload. It would generate backlash energy.

McCain is playing this one right. Keep chipping away.

Let Obama generate his own bad news. Then while he’s defending, move on another issue.

McCain has been doing better at setting the agenda than he’s getting credit for doing. He won the battle of Iraq, too, in spite of Obama’s speech. Why? Obama is Obama. His speech is full of generalities and long-shots. McCain came back out with a down-to-earth response, off the cuff, which was very compelling.

If I’m a kind of voter that is model independent this year, I can tell you: McCain persuaded me yesterday. I’m liberal on social causes, conservative on economic and security issues. I am not anyone informed about military matters, and I’m convinced that voters should not have to be strategists to vote properly. We do need clear explanations. Larry’s piece made sense to me yesterday. Then I could read more on other sites on Iraq. This morning there are some really good pieces on RCP from the conservative side on what was foolish about Obama’s plan. I’m looking for the liberal counterparts, but their pieces on HuffPo have been nothing but fluff so far.

So McCain won that duel.

McCain saw how Hillary turned it around. It was the hard way. Convince the voters. Win them over. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Do NOT attack Obama. He and his minions are super-sensitive, and they grab the news right away while the country worries over pictures of turbans. You can’t get a word in edgewise for days.

Now, if Wright pops back up. That’s a different matter. That’s on Obama.

To Obama everybody is a useful idiot.

But who can blame him for telling the guys with the 14% approval to get lost.

Seems we already HAVE a de facto third party: The Obama Party. But maybe it’s a fourth party. Does this parallel how the Republican Party became The Cheney/Bush Party by rolling over, purging, and/or neutralizing all who were not loyalists?

I’m really hoping that Nancy and Harry are mad a lot. They earned this one. I hope that they choke more than once.

There has to be overwhelming public pressure brought
to bear to assure that the “VOTE” goes forward!
This is not about Sen.Clinton, it is about our right
as citizens to NOT have our democratic process hijac-
ked along with the convention.
This poll should be news! So, I hope that people
will blog to everyone and get the word out!
Sen.Obama is “undercutting” what trust some of his
supporters were feeling in him or about him, from his
“words”. He doesn’t have a long record. Now, they are
have an opportunity to just examine him and he is NOT
holding up.
OT…any news on the Andy Martin press conferences
about Sen. Obama?

I always thought the secret weapon Hillary had was Republican women.

They don’t talk alot. But I couldn’t imagine them not really liking her a lot. She reflects a lot of their core values.

And I think the Republican women a bit fed up with the Religious Right controlling the women’s issues within their party. Those people have been the albatros around the Republican necks for years.

This was a “secret” chance. *haha

Bingo, Northwest!

PUMA is well worth supporting for just that reason. When people realize they have an alternative, and they are NOT alone, it is so much easier!

But the word has to keep spreading.

Maybe when the debt is paid off, then the fundraising can jump.

Oh hell, that number is funky. I remember in NC Obama only got out 17% of the youth vote or something close to that.

They were already dropping off before the primary ended.

Ditto..I’ll switch if HRC is not our nominee.

So is her math. I’m very old school, but I still think 1 in 5 is 20%.

Absolutely, Raven. Putting HRC’s name on the nominating ballot–the ACTUAL nominating ballot, not a ceremonial roll call which is what they will try to fob off on us–is not up to Obama, Pelosi, or anybody else. It is in the RULES and bylaws, yes those same rules and bylaws the DNC used and abused (actually, completely and deliberately misinterpreted) to justify their disenfranchisement and vote theft. If they get away with this it will be unprecedented and appalling. That’s why we should all support the work the Denver Group is doing, they are focused on PRECISELY this issue. No more changing the rules and breaking with bylaws just to help BO! No more, no way!

When the DNC assures us that “her name will be on the ballot,” they are being too cute by half. She has to be on the actual nominating ballot.

Nobody has won the nomination yet so the nomination would not be “taken away” from Sensator Obama.

While this is 100% correct, I think it’s too late. If the SuperD’s by some miracle elect Hillary, the party, the media, and the OFB will paint it as a stolen nomination.

That should tell you Obama is as bad if not worse than Bush. I didn’t freak out too much when he said the DNC would be moved to Chicago. But now it’s a witch hunt against those who didn’t support him or soon enough for his liking. He has funds set aside to run Dems out of office. That’s so creepy and Machiavellian.

No, not domestic terrorism. But you’d see a VERY nasty floor fight at the convention … all captured on national TV … probably a few actual fist-fights on the convention floor, lots of hateful invective spewed by both sides in front of the TV cameras, and rioting in the streets of Denver.

ROTFLMAO!!! Barack Obama? A “centrist to right winger”? Are we talking about the same Barack Obama here? The same Barack Obama who was rated as THE single most liberal US Senator, even to the left of Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy?

You’re obviously a clueless idiot. Seriously, I strongly suggest you pull your head out of your ass.

Yeah, I guess that’s why blacks went overwhelmingly for Obama in the primaries right?

Doug Wilder has it absolutely right. If black Democrats perceivee the nomination as having been stolen from Obama at this late date, they will not only tear the Democratic Party in two, but 95% of them would stay home on Election Day.

Hillary lost. It’s in the books.

Get over it.

Precisely, they will call it a move to steal the nomination, which is why we need “political histori-
ans” to be out in the MSM addressing this issue.
Engaging those who support Obama in debate NOW; taking the time to educate the young people, espe-
cially, about the convention process.
It is unfortunate, that some Obama surrogates and
supporters over past few months rather than take the
high road, would choose to intimate “upheaval” if
anything other than a coronation were to happen at
the convention. I find that outrageous! This is our
country, our presidency, at stake.
We as citizens of this great democracy cannot have
the notion, “Barack”s word”, or fear of “mob rule”,
decide our party nominee!

I’m just remembering how many high-ranking military officers endorsed Hillary Clinton for CIC as opposed to Obama. Now the presumptive nominee is giving a speech on national security. To counter that, eleven retired military officers published a letter of endorsement for McCain today…

As retired military officers, we share a natural hesitancy to engage actively in politics. There is a healthy discomfort in our profession with any political involvement because the country rightly depends on our military to support any commander in chief with our best military advice and our actions. But two factors compel us to speak out now and openly support John McCain for President: first, the surprising and inaccurate questioning of his record by some of Senator Obama’s leading supporters; and second, the importance to our national security of winning the war we are fighting.

Through a lifetime of service in uniform and in Congress, John McCain has consistently displayed the wisdom and courage to do the right thing for America regardless of the cost to him personally. It is for this reason, above all others, that we endorse John McCain for President, and it is for this reason that we stand with him now as he continues his long history of service to this country.

JAMES B. DAVIS, GENERAL, USAF (RET.)
RONALD J. HAYS, ADMIRAL, USN (RET)
JAMES L. HOLLOWAY, ADMIRAL, USN (RET)
JEROME L. JOHNSON, ADMIRAL, USN, (RET)
P.X. KELLEY, GENERAL, USMC, (RET)
JAMES J. LINDSAY, GENERAL, USA (RET)
JOHN MICHAEL LOH, GENERAL, USAF, (RET)
LEIGHTON W. SMITH, ADMIRAL, USN (RET)
CARL STINER, GENERAL, USA (RET)
DONALD C. “DEESE” THOMPSON, VICE ADMIRAL, USCG, (RET)
HOWARD B. THORSEN, VICE ADMIRAL, USCG, (RET)

assumptions assumptions. One can finagle numbers to whatever ones’ amusing. Go ahead beleive 10 percent if it makes you feel better.

The condition on the ground changed 4 or 5 months ago when his foreign policy advisor told the BBC that Obama wasn’t never counting on his primary campaign plan. So conditions didn’t change. Obama lied in much the same way that “conditions” on the ground changed for FISA and NAFTA.

True. McCain is following Hillary’s lead on how to win over the moderates.
Also, count Rev. Wright have a third party release damaging info on Obama in the fall in order to get back at him for throwing him under the bus?!?

I agree. I am sick of hearing about how
everyone must bow down to this empty suit Obama.
Most of the AA’s will vote for Hillary if she
gets the nomination in August. Some will not,
but there will be more than enough of other groups to offset them as well as the nutroots activists.
Hillary can bring together a true winning coallition. Obama CANNOT!

Exactly. Hillary was going to get republican women voters. That was going to be her draw.

Obama was going to go after those “conservative right wing church” folk because Brazile thought Obama could “get them”. I guess she should have attended a Trinity UCC service or two before she thought up that brain fart.

Cavuto did not call her that.
He spoke poorly when trying to explain how her opponents view her.
If anyone should be fired, it should be Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews.

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I actually think that Obama is going to elect a very religous conservative judge. Just you watch.