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Liu Mingkang Provides Sense on Cents

Liu Mingkang, Chairman of China Banking Regulatory Commission

Liu Mingkang, Chairman of China Banking Regulatory Commission

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

That trite saying is far too simplistic in defining the diverse and convoluted nature of U.S.-Chinese relations. That said, as President Obama prepares to arrive in the People’s Republic of China for the first time during his Presidency, he is faced with an extremely aggressive overture from Liu Mingkang, China’s chief banking regulator.

What does Mr. Mingkang have to say? Well, let’s just say he has a drastically different opinion on U.S. monetary and fiscal policy than his counterparts in Washington. While our wizards in Washington, Messrs. Bernanke, Geithner, and Summers would lead us to believe that the rebound in markets is a precursor to a rebound in our economy, Mr. Mingkang has a decidedly different take.

The Financial Times sheds light on this topic in writing, China Says Fed Policy Threatens Recovery:

The US Federal Reserve is fueling “speculative investments” and endangering global recovery through loose monetary policy, a senior Chinese official warned just hours before President Barack Obama arrived in China for his first visit.

Liu Mingkang , China’s chief banking regulator, said the combination of a weak dollar and low interest rates had encouraged a “huge carry trade” that was having a “massive impact on global asset prices”.

The comments came as China and the US sparred at the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation summit over exchange rate policies amid rising international criticism that China’s currency is undervalued.

Mr Liu’s unusually blunt remarks underscore how China – the largest US creditor because of its massive holdings of Treasury bonds – has become a trenchant critic of monetary and fiscal policy in the US.

Since the start of the financial crisis, China has issued a number of warnings that the US should not inflate its mounting debt burden. Before these latest comments, however, Beijing had generally been most critical of US fiscal policy, urging Washington to spend less.

But speaking at a conference in Beijing, Mr Liu said the Fed’s policy of maintaining low interest rates together with the weak dollar posed a threat to the global economic recovery.

Why so aggressive on Mr. Mingkang’s part? Two reasons. The weakening greenback negatively impact’s China’s massive dollar-denominated holdings, primarily in U.S. Treasury securities. Additionally, the weak greenback negatively impacts China’s balance of trade.

Despite assertions by Secretary Geithner to the contrary, I firmly believe a weakening greenback is a central tenet of the Obama administration’s economic policy. In fact, our government officials would never say it but they are likely somewhat envious of the benefits of the weak and undervalued currency policy practiced in China.

While those on Wall Street and Washington are reluctant to address ‘huge carry trades’ and ‘asset bubbles,’ our largest creditor pulls no punches on these topics and provides a healthy dose of ‘sense on cents’ in the process.

Welcome to China, Mr. President. How nice to see you. About your currency, we are not so happy.

LD

  • Galt goes to Hollywood

    Tangled web axiom applies? ;)

  • Onofre’s arm

    Larry, are you implying that the Obama administration is intentionally trying to monetize our debt by printing dollars? I’m shocked! While that may piss off the Chinese, it also robs investors back home. Doesn’t Obama realize this?

    Wait a minute, I get it, what better way is there to redistribute wealth (an oft stated Obama goal), and to destroy free market capitalism, than intentionally causing hyperinflation? And with a slick propaganda campaign, Obama can cynically claim that he is rescuing us while throwing us a lead filled life preserver. When the Weimar Republic was destroyed with the help of hyperinflation, what was it replaced with? Oh yea, Fascist socialism, that worked well, as long as the people didn’t mind being slaves.

    Unless we can somehow reverse the insanely destructive over spending of this administration, and find a better way to pay back the Chinese other than causing hyperinflation or taxing every man woman and cild 100% of their worth, we’re all screwed! I’m sure Obama realizes this. I’m sure Obama wants this.

  • Craig Della Penna

    It’s a sad day when the Chinese banking minister – our adversary, make no mistake about it – makes more sense than our erstwhile financial regulators and protectors: Geithner and Bernanke.

    Kinda makes you wonder who’s working for whom?

  • Docelder

    I’m sure Obama wants this

    Yes, finally people are getting it. This is not socialism. The far left no longer wants to change us. They want to destroy us, and rebuild from the ashes into the fascist corporatist regime that is what the far left really wants. Forget taking our liberties and taking out guns one at a time. Forget trying to change us through the courts… they are taking our prosperity now. They think hungry Americans will be more malleable than Americans with full stomachs. Maybe they are right, we will see. What we are facing is not socialism or communism though. Because it is not socialist to do what is being done to us, it is more fundamentally evil to enslave an entire population with a lifetime of debt load.

  • Peggy Sue

    Karl Denninger [Market Ticker] wrote an open letter to the Chinese Premier, where he mentions Liu Mingkang’s comments and basically says that Ben Bernake is giving China the finger with these remarks:

    Nov. 16 (Bloomberg) — “Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said it’s “not obvious” that asset prices in the U.S. are out of line with underlying values after a 64 percent jump in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index from its March low.”

    According to the Ticker this was supported by:

    “Donald Kohn, another Fed Governor, erected his middle finger in your direction as well with his comments last night and Yellen added her view this morning in which they also both said ‘we see no bubble.’

    See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

    Denninger goes on to say:

    “How many more times do you need to be flipped off before you get it: The Fed isn’t going to do what you want, and neither is Obama. Get over yourself.”

    It’s a pretty scathing indictment of the lunacy that we’re all witnessing as the ship teeters and begins to go down.

    Where will this end? God knows. But it’s not looking good for any of us.

    Thanks for the update, Larry.

  • Docelder

    Once the corporatists have globalized everywhere… what is left? You can’t globalize communist China. But, you can sort of globalize the U.S. economy and fleece communist China in the process. I don’t know where this is ending either. Nobody does. But I think I get now what is happening.

  • Freedom Fighter

    China’s per capita GDP is only $6000, that’s 1/8th of the United States. I don’t think we need to worry about what they have to say yet.

    In other news, I found this recent Sarah Palin interview. As expected she sounds as dumb and clueless as ever, even in a softball interview with Rush Limbaugh. No wonder the common theme amongst journalists is that she can barely string a sentence together. If the GOP runs her in 2012, Obama will win all 50 states. LOL!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/17/sarah_palin_discusses_common_sense_conservative_solutions_on_limbaugh.html

  • Onofre’s arm

    We don’t have to worry about what they have to say..?????? FF, You’ve just taken a commanding lead in the “Imbecile Obots Who Post at NQ” contest.

    And please everyone else, don’t let FF derail another thread with the unrelated Palin news, no matter how absurd FF’s position is.

  • http://N/A breeze

    CHINA QUESTIONS COSTS OF U.S. HEALTHCARE REFORM

    James Pethokoukis
    Reuters
    Nov. 16, 2009

    Guess what? It turns out the Chinese are kind of curious about how President Barack Obama’s healthcare reform plans would impact America’s huge fiscal deficit. Government officials are using his Asian trip as an opportunity to ask the White House questions. Detailed questions.

    Boilerplate assurances that America won’t default on its debt or inflate the shortfall away are apparently not cutting it. Nor should they, when one owns nearly $2 trillion in assets denominated in the currency of a country about to double its national debt over the next decade.

    Nothing happening in Washington today should give Beijing any comfort or confidence about what may happen tomorrow. Healthcare reform was originally promoted as a way to “bend the curve” on escalating entitlement costs, the major part of which is financing Medicare and Medicaid. That is looking more and more like an overpromised deliverable.

    For instance, a new study from the U.S. government’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services finds that the healthcare reform bill recently passed in the House of Representatives would increase healthcare spending to 21.3 percent of GDP by 2019 compared with 20.8 percent under current law. That’s bending the curve the wrong way. The study also questions the “long-term viability” of the $500 billion in Medicare cuts meant to help pay for expanded insurance coverage.

    In addition, the CMS study gives a clearer cost estimate than the one provided by the Congressional Budget Office. According to the CBO, the 10-year cost of PelosiCare is $894 billion. But that analysis includes early years with little government spending, According to the CMS, the House approach would cost $1 trillion from 2013-2019, or some $140 billion a year when fully put into effect.

    Few realists in Washington think any of the current reform plans make a significant dent in the long-term healthcare cost to government. Indeed, the Senate Budget Committee recently held hearing about creating a bipartisan commission to find solutions to America’s entitlements problems.

    If healthcare reform really bent the curve, there would be a no need for such a commission to do Healthcare Reform 2.0.

    The Chinese might want to keep up the questioning.

  • http://N/A breeze

    SOMEBODY PLEASE RESCUE MY POST!!!

    IT IS IMPORTANT:

    “WHAT CHINA THINKS OF U.S. HEALTHCARE REFORM”

  • Galt goes to Hollywood

    Already right there with ya. I’m tired of the shallow transparent obvious diversions. If that’s the best they have to offer it speaks volumes as to how credible their choice in “leaders” was.

  • Peggy Sue

    This is the art [poorly performed] of misdirection.

    FF says:

    “I don’t think we need to worry about what they [China] have to say yet.”

    What don’t you get, FF?

    China owns us right now. And in this weird dance to oblivion, we own them, too.

    And you want to misdirect the conversation to Sarah Palin?

    What frigging drugs are you on?

    If you’re on the Obamatron payroll, you’re not very effective. If you worked for me, you’d be fired. Yesterday!

    Take your sorry ass and look at the evidence right before your eyes. We’re being sold out. It doesn’t matter if you’re Democratic or Republican. We’ve been betrayed. By both parties.

    Get with the program. Or stop posting the sad, extinct partisan drivel.

    Because that’s what it is. Extinct.

  • Ellen D

    Here is the latest from Elizabeth Warren:

    “…The old rules of regulation just literally don’t work anymore. Because now we’re under this giant shadow of implicit and explicit government guarantees … we said in effect … we will throw as many taxpayers as we need to throw under the bus to keep your business functionally operational in the way that it was functionally operational before without a cost to you personally, and to your shareholders personally. That’s a whole new world.”

    Why, oh why do we have Geithner?

  • jbjd

    …because Elizabeth Warren (and Brooksley Born and HRC…) is a woman.

  • Peggy Sue

    Because we’ve [Dems and Repugs] made pact with the Devil. And any kind of moral, let alone fiscal responsibility has been flushed down the toilet.

    What is thirty pieces of silver worth these days? Dare we ask? Did the citizens of Rome ask? Or wonder in the aftermath.

    What we’re losing is incalculable. You won’t find it on a balance sheet or in the daily stock market quotes.

    What we’re losing is everything. Wake up, America!

  • Patience

    I think you’re onto something Docelder.

    We can’t even BUY [much that's] AMERICAN even if we want to now. We’ll have to wait until we’re Third Worldean enough for the corporatists’ bottom line.

  • elaine

    What’s up with this “carry trade” argument & it creating a bubble in China? Who exactly is borrowing cheap money here & then buying what in China? Are fat cats actually going to banks & saying I want to borrow a few million dollars to invest in China? Knowing that China could nationalize any investment any time they want.

  • MrMike

    What interview did FF listen to?
    While she did answer the questions with the same bromides any republican would use she did a good job of it.
    If the GOP wold have found her a speech writer of the same caliber as a certain cardboard cutout groper, it might be the Palin family in the Observatory building.

  • Galt goes to Hollywood

    Please excuse FF, she/he tends to spend many hours in an alternate universe where Obama did indeed build her/him a garage and placed in it a most special pink unicorn that only the two of them can see and share.

  • elaine

    The more I think about it why am I beating up on China because they have an historical pattern of nationalizing assets, here the gov will just tax whatever assets it chooses & in that sense take control. Ownership vs control really isn’t much difference. Something very odd is happening, isn’t it? The talking heads claim the recent run-up is lacking in fundamentals & only rages on because of the weak dollar, this is probably true with equities but I don’t get how this argument works with commodities…take rice for example, there really is a shortage due to drought…gold, some of the miners are already cutting back to preserve value. This carry trade must just have to do with currency. It’s really a fascinating game too bad it can mess up so many people’s lives.

  • John Smith

    The Chinese had to increase their money supply by 29 percent to keep up with the dollar. That is creating problems in their own markets. But since Obama told them to increase the value of the yuan they will not increase it.

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