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	<title>Comments on: [MUST-SEE UPDATE AD!] The &#8220;Baby Jesus&#8221; Open Thread (and a word about our ads)</title>
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		<title>By: geptorryito</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/36255/the-baby-jesus-open-thread-and-a-word-about-our-ads/#comment-1286347</link>
		<dc:creator>geptorryito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone,

I am most likely the first to say this, but probably not the last: Seasons Greetings.

&lt;b&gt;geptorryito&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forwardfusionglobal.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;website ghosting&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>I am most likely the first to say this, but probably not the last: Seasons Greetings.</p>
<p><b>geptorryito</b><br />
<a href="http://www.forwardfusionglobal.com" rel="nofollow">website ghosting</a></p>
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		<title>By: politicsisdirty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/36255/the-baby-jesus-open-thread-and-a-word-about-our-ads/#comment-1278347</link>
		<dc:creator>politicsisdirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome comment Mr. Krauthammer. Never misses watching Special Report by Brett and one of the reasons is your intelligent comments.

More power to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome comment Mr. Krauthammer. Never misses watching Special Report by Brett and one of the reasons is your intelligent comments.</p>
<p>More power to you.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/36255/the-baby-jesus-open-thread-and-a-word-about-our-ads/#comment-1278046</link>
		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should call Krauthammer the &lt;em&gt;Velvet Hammer &lt;/em&gt; because he does it with such class and self-restraint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should call Krauthammer the <em>Velvet Hammer </em> because he does it with such class and self-restraint.</p>
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		<title>By: Portia Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Portia Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply. I hope it gets recorded. I ordered two other CD&#039;s along with Susan Boyle&#039;s. I&#039;ll also be humming to Patsy Cline and Johnny Mercer. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply. I hope it gets recorded. I ordered two other CD&#8217;s along with Susan Boyle&#8217;s. I&#8217;ll also be humming to Patsy Cline and Johnny Mercer. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lorac</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/36255/the-baby-jesus-open-thread-and-a-word-about-our-ads/#comment-1277932</link>
		<dc:creator>lorac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for that matter, the whole concept of categorizing psychological disorders by symptom checklist (ie, the DSM) is not even recognized by all.  There are no definitive markers as there are in medical science - at this point, the psychological diagnoses are still all statistically-based, human-made constructs.  Not the exact science that medicine is closer to being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for that matter, the whole concept of categorizing psychological disorders by symptom checklist (ie, the DSM) is not even recognized by all.  There are no definitive markers as there are in medical science &#8211; at this point, the psychological diagnoses are still all statistically-based, human-made constructs.  Not the exact science that medicine is closer to being.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzisbackLatte</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzisbackLatte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Charles&#039; own words will help clear up any misconception on &quot;secondary PTSD&quot; or &quot;compassion fatigue&quot;&#039;.   The point is, it is NOT found in the DSM-IV-TR.  The point being:  There are some who believe it does exist, others that don&#039;t.  It&#039;s inconclusive at this point as to it&#039;s true existence.

http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2009/11/13/medicalizing_mass_murder

Does it exist?  Do aliens?

Something that isn&#039;t recognized fully as existing is not going to be convincing in a court of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Charles&#8217; own words will help clear up any misconception on &#8220;secondary PTSD&#8221; or &#8220;compassion fatigue&#8221;&#8216;.   The point is, it is NOT found in the DSM-IV-TR.  The point being:  There are some who believe it does exist, others that don&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s inconclusive at this point as to it&#8217;s true existence.</p>
<p><a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2009/11/13/medicalizing_mass_murder" rel="nofollow">http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2009/11/13/medicalizing_mass_murder</a></p>
<p>Does it exist?  Do aliens?</p>
<p>Something that isn&#8217;t recognized fully as existing is not going to be convincing in a court of law.</p>
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		<title>By: Galt goes to Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Galt goes to Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Prezidunce Obysmal paper doll is anatomically correct: no backbone, no brains and no balls. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Prezidunce Obysmal paper doll is anatomically correct: no backbone, no brains and no balls. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lorac</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  The paper doll cut out book isn&#039;t &quot;anatomically correct&quot; - that&#039;s not MO&#039;s face, and it&#039;s certainly not her middle section!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  The paper doll cut out book isn&#8217;t &#8220;anatomically correct&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s not MO&#8217;s face, and it&#8217;s certainly not her middle section!</p>
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		<title>By: lorac</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz, I can&#039;t remember verbatim what he said, but I believe he said it&#039;s not in the book yet, not that it doesn&#039;t exist.

In the 30 years I&#039;ve been involved with the field, there have only been two editions (and I believe two small revisions).  They have been working for several years on the next edition (Ed. 5) of the book (which still won&#039;t be out for years), and there is a Task Force which is evaluating whether to include vicarious trauma. So, it&#039;s certainly better for something to be in the DSM, but it&#039;s not an overnight thing - it takes many, many years, even just for a new edition to come out.

Here are a couple of links to pdfs talking about vicarious trauma, if anyone is interested.

 http://tiny.cc/Mz1Lw 

 http://tiny.cc/VDaaC 

I would have to hear the segment again, but my guess is that his bottom line was that this soldier didn&#039;t have vicarious trauma.  If,instead, his big point was that there is no such thing at all, irregardless of inclusion in the DSM, then I would chalk it up to his not practicing psychiatry, and not being up to date on the field of trauma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz, I can&#8217;t remember verbatim what he said, but I believe he said it&#8217;s not in the book yet, not that it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>In the 30 years I&#8217;ve been involved with the field, there have only been two editions (and I believe two small revisions).  They have been working for several years on the next edition (Ed. 5) of the book (which still won&#8217;t be out for years), and there is a Task Force which is evaluating whether to include vicarious trauma. So, it&#8217;s certainly better for something to be in the DSM, but it&#8217;s not an overnight thing &#8211; it takes many, many years, even just for a new edition to come out.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of links to pdfs talking about vicarious trauma, if anyone is interested.</p>
<p> <a href="http://tiny.cc/Mz1Lw" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/Mz1Lw</a> </p>
<p> <a href="http://tiny.cc/VDaaC" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/VDaaC</a> </p>
<p>I would have to hear the segment again, but my guess is that his bottom line was that this soldier didn&#8217;t have vicarious trauma.  If,instead, his big point was that there is no such thing at all, irregardless of inclusion in the DSM, then I would chalk it up to his not practicing psychiatry, and not being up to date on the field of trauma.</p>
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		<title>By: lorac</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BH - PTSD is definitely in the book!  It&#039;s in the anxiety disorders section.  I think I saw the segment you referred to, and he was talking about vicarious trauma not yet being in the book, not PTSD.  But I know, all over the web, I see people using the concepts interchangably, so I understand the confusion.  

The concept isn&#039;t old enough yet to be in the book; they do a lot of research and incidence statistics before they decide to include something in the book - which isn&#039;t revised very often in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BH &#8211; PTSD is definitely in the book!  It&#8217;s in the anxiety disorders section.  I think I saw the segment you referred to, and he was talking about vicarious trauma not yet being in the book, not PTSD.  But I know, all over the web, I see people using the concepts interchangably, so I understand the confusion.  </p>
<p>The concept isn&#8217;t old enough yet to be in the book; they do a lot of research and incidence statistics before they decide to include something in the book &#8211; which isn&#8217;t revised very often in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: tango</title>
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		<dc:creator>tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched MSNBC actually run the Charles Krauthammer clip this morning on the Morning Joke show. It was great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched MSNBC actually run the Charles Krauthammer clip this morning on the Morning Joke show. It was great.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzisbackLatte</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzisbackLatte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very familiar with the DSM-IV-TR and I was pleasantly surprised that Charles K stepped out there with an interpretation of Obama&#039;s, shall we say, behavior.

There is no such thing as secondary PTSD, as Krauthammer said.  It was just more crazy spin to downplay the real Hasan and all that goes with him.

I very first time I ever saw Obama on TV, I knew the guy had some issues with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very familiar with the DSM-IV-TR and I was pleasantly surprised that Charles K stepped out there with an interpretation of Obama&#8217;s, shall we say, behavior.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as secondary PTSD, as Krauthammer said.  It was just more crazy spin to downplay the real Hasan and all that goes with him.</p>
<p>I very first time I ever saw Obama on TV, I knew the guy had some issues with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: tango</title>
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		<dc:creator>tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it come with a god awful wide belt strapped right under her boobs and a poochy  (NOT PUCCI) style dress that makes her look like she has a fat tummy and butt?  If not, I don&#039;t want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it come with a god awful wide belt strapped right under her boobs and a poochy  (NOT PUCCI) style dress that makes her look like she has a fat tummy and butt?  If not, I don&#8217;t want it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronwyn's Harbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronwyn's Harbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is just ugly and bizarre.</description>
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		<title>By: Bronwyn's Harbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronwyn's Harbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should work as long as you don&#039;t open a new window.

And the noqua-20 id doesn&#039;t always show up in the url but, as i noted in a reply above, Amazon assures us that we will still get credit.  still, i&#039;d feel more secure if the noqua-20 were always there.

THANK YOU!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should work as long as you don&#8217;t open a new window.</p>
<p>And the noqua-20 id doesn&#8217;t always show up in the url but, as i noted in a reply above, Amazon assures us that we will still get credit.  still, i&#8217;d feel more secure if the noqua-20 were always there.</p>
<p>THANK YOU!!!</p>
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