Last Days of the Republicans: Part 26

Palin is a force to be reckoned with, that’s for certain. Even Carville acknowledges this. I wish her luck fighting for what she believes in.

What are the liberals so F’ing scared of

If by liberals you mean the koolaid swiller extremist subspecies liberals: she’s a she and is capable of defeating dear leader in 2012. So they are on a crusade to demonize her which will backfire as America loves the underdog.

Not all liberals support Obama and do not fear Palin. And liberalism is not a monolith. Most people lean towards the center who call themselves liberal and conservative.

Thank you, Galt. I lean left but I do not support Obama not do I fear Palin. Palin is a super star right now [despite what the Far Left screams]. And I admit, I find Sarah Palin’s personality personally attractive. I like her grit, her refusal to back down.

But as far as presidential material? I don’t think so. At least not at this juncture. I listened to her interview with O’Reilly. And the question with meat was: do you think you have what it takes to be POTUS? Why?

Sorry, but Palin needs to come up with something better than: because I have common sense and share the values of the American people.

She has got to get rid of these vague, cliche ridden answers. She has got to convince people that she has a grasp on very complicated policy issues and has a clear, uncompromising vision.

Otherwise, she comes off as nothing more than Obama in a skirt with Republican pom-poms.

She speaks well to energy issues [regardless of whether you agree with her take on energy or not]. But she needs to translate that specific grasp to many, many areas, particularly the economy.

I haven’t heard her do that yet.

Had a post hit the spam monster.

Thanx!

OT, breaking news,
Holy Dope on a Rope, Gallup has Obama down to 48 today.

Yep. The right’s 24/7 campaign of ceaseless spin and negativity is gradually erroding confidence in the only remaining leader who had an approval rating exceeding 50%. We’ll be left to face our immediate challenges with no leader and no institution that even half of the population is remotely confident in.

On behalf of a grateful nation, allow me to express my deepest thanks for a job well-done. Unable to accomplish anything constructive yourselves, you’re at least making sure that no one else will.

The little bus incident filmed in Noblesville IN was…. it turns out…. staged by Obots:

http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/11/roguish-liberal-behavior.html

No surprise there, really. Huh?

Thank you, Galt. I lean left but I do not support Obama not do I fear Palin.

You’re welcome. I also lean left. I also do not support Obama. I also do not fear Palin. What I do support as a former Dem (thanks to Obama and his minions) is logical decision making and principled compromise in governing and setting public policy.

Otherwise, she comes off as nothing more than Obama in a skirt with Republican pom-poms.

If she is the best the GOP comes up with (and hopefully she gets a better grasp on issues as you’ve suggested), she may be the only logical choice in a face-to-fact match-up with dear leader, even for us left leaners – as was the case when many of us voted for McCain.

McCain, Palin and Hillary never got in the gutter to try and achieve power. Their opposition did, and look how they now govern and set policy. Proof is always in the actual pudding indeed, not in the notion of what we’re told it will taste like.

Speaking of principled compromise, I make it a point to reach out to our right leaners. My bias left is no excuse not to build collations for the sake of our restoring republic to its former pre-Obama greatness.

That’s one view. Perhaps you should consider factoring in his personal responsibility for not being cut out for actual greatness, as opposed to what you were sold on: the idea he was greatness incarnate.

As I just wrote above:

“Proof is always in the actual pudding indeed, not in the notion of what we’re told it will taste like.”

“McCain, Palin and Hillary never got in the gutter to try and achieve power.”

I’ll accept that about Hillary Clinton. So far as the McCain/Palin campaign goes, you’re hallucinating. The 2008 republican campaign was one of the worst example of gutter politics on a national level that I’ve ever witnessed. Simply consider their repeated televised attack ads. The level of distortion, fear mongering, negative ethnic and religious insinuation, guilt by tenuous association, and personal character attack should have been enough to gag any self-respecting goat.

To John McCain’s credit, I don’t believe that approach to the campaign was his doing, or his preference.

You conveniently left out the election fraud cheating that happened. But that is no surprise, you deny that it did occur. You can’t get any more in the gutter than stealing an election. And as I pointed out yesterday even if I am hallucinating, I have the perception there was cheating as do many many others. And you’re stuck with this perception, right or wrong. My one voice may seem an insignificant nuisance to your agenda, but my one voice is amplified by the many who share my views yet don’t voice them openly.

I supported Palin, and voted McCain/Palin. But Palin is dividing the Republican Party in ways that are much worse for the Repubs than the ways Hillary divides the electorate at large are for the Dems.

If Palin and other conservative Repubs are unable to support moderate Repubs, as they could not in NY Cong Dist 23, they are going to coronate continued dominance by the liberal Pelosi Dem party.

Palin and other repubs worked against a moderate female Republican, and in doing so handed the election to a Democrat who will rubber stamp Pelosi/Reid/Obama. Dede Scozzafava was ligitimately nominated by the Republicans in her district, but the national party fought for her defeat.

The Repubs are not going to get all the so called “Reagan Democrat” voters they need to win a national election if they slam the door on the moderates in their own Party.

Palin and the conservative Repubs LOST the election for the repub party in NY Dist 23. And yet, these conservatives are calling this a big win. The Repub party will not stand if it has only one leg.

Repubs are in no position to be excluding anyone. They need a grip on the reality of where the votes are. If Repubs cannot expand their tent to include moderates, or anyone that fails the conservative litmus test, they won’t see the Oval office for a long long time.

Palin’s strategy so far is easily a losing one.

People are entitled to their opinions and should voice them. I would take criticism of Obama more seriously if it were along the lines of specific policies and accompanied by specific alternative policy suggestions, however. “Shoot this bill down, and we can get back to fixing things just as we’ve intended to do all along” somehow isn’t moving me.

I have no problem with reaching right for building coalitions. But I won’t reach Far Right, anymore than I’ll reach Far Left. Frankly, I don’t think either extremist wing is willing to reach anything but a battle to the death. In my mind that serves no one’s interests.

I’m afraid if Sarah Palin is the best the GOP can offer [unless Palin finds herself a policy mentor to help her hone a decent message and get her arms around the issues] we are all doomed.

Btw, I don’t think the Far Left is afraid of Palin. I really think they feel if Palin runs, Obama is a slam dunk in 2012. They totally underestimate her populist appeal.

If the economy continues to tank, the contest is wide open. Even for a Sarah Palin [who will be continuously attacked over her early Governor resignation]. I understand her reasons for leaving. But if she has her eyes on the WH, she gave the opposition a whole lot of political ammunition.

I am hoping her next book will be a roadmap of her vision for America. That would go a long way to assuaging fears that she is not competent to govern.

No, Indiana. The lack of results is eroding the confidence in Obama and the Democratic Party.

As Bill Clinton’s aides [many of whom are now working with this Administration] said:

It’s all about the economy, stupid.

And lies about the results never work. The pain is on the ground with increased unemployment, a failed housing market, tax receipts in the toilet, states going bankrupt and a foreign policy that seems confused at best.

The Republicans would be spinning their swill even in the best of times. Both parties have taken political spin to an art form.

But failing policies will kill confidence everytime. Blaming the Republicans is wa-a-ay too easy.

I don’t care what you or others who share your agenda take seriously. I’m not here to please you. Face the fact you are engaging in mental masturbation: I and others of like-mind will never support your agenda in a big part because of the way we perceive power was seized. This issue is never going away. You can keep trying to convince us how wonderful Obama is, but all you will be doing is masturbating / pleasing yourself and you decision to swill the koolaid.

Indiana Dem, Honestly, are you ready to admit that Obama is a Pansy and not up to the rigors of the Presidential Office?

Did you really think that a President would not have to face any criticism? Has it ever happened at any other time in the history of homo sapiens that a leader would not be criticized?

You Obamites were so doped up on Hopium you could not see past the weaknesses of your candidate.

Never send a boy to do a man’s job. You should have sent Hillary. She’s more man than O’Pansy Boy will ever be.

Obama’s character flaws, lack of leadership, indecisiveness, poor judgement, and inexperience have reared their big ugly head. And we’ll have to put up with 4 more years of his train wreck.

“But I won’t reach Far Right, anymore than I’ll reach Far Left.”

We need a national movement for an Independent Party. There is a bounty of moderate Dems and Repubs with no place to go. We are all sick of partisan bickering.

An Independent Party made up of the moderates can govern, and leave the extremes to fight in their sandbox.

Thanks for sharing this. I tweeted it.

If Scozzafava were such a good Republican, why did she drop out and then endorse the Democratic candidate?

How is being totally taken with the personality of Sarah Palin any different from the left’s supposed infatuation with the personality of Barack Obama?

Of Palin and Obama, which has a political philosophy and a set of goals and policies that are most similar to those of Hillary Clinton?

I believe you. Fortunately, your lunatic numbers are vanishingly small. Obama has the support of almost precisely the % of Democrats that any Democratic president has ever had.

LOL. Speaking as a progressive Democrat who very much wants to see Obama reelected in 2012, I can tell, in all honesty, that nothing would make me happier than to see (ex)Governor Palin win the Republican nomination. It doesn’t surprise me that a significant percentage of NQers think she could win. You thought McCain could win in 2008 as well and, while he was about a billion times more plausible as president than Palin would be, he didn’t have much of a chance either.

Amazing how he’s produced a train wreck of such magnitude after only 11 months. Particularly after having done nothing. One might almost suspect that something was going very seriously wrong before he got there.

she dropped out because her own party leaders stabbed her in the back and would not fund her campaign and she had no chance of winning.
she endorsed owens because he was from the district and familiar with the issues. hoffman gave one lame press conference, whined about not being given the questions in advance and refused to give any more because he knew he couldn’t answer the questions.
what kind of a man knows he is incompetent on the issues but allows party leaders to force his way for him into a race, pushing aside a better qualified candidate who coincidentally happens to be a woman? sounds a lot like someone else we all know…

More self-flagellation I see. You are very good at proving my points. Thank you.

Yes, Galt, there was cheating – tons of it! The whole primary election was one big smash and grab by someone who had no experience, no qualifications, and is a misogynist, a homophobe, an ageist, and a racist to boot. I, too, am a left-leaning former Democrat who watched our own Party disenfranchising us – those who have done the real Party work for years.

What a stupendous mockery of our election laws. What disgusting behavior that the whole country will have to pay for.

Is this Usurper even elible to hold this office? I, like millions of others, want to see his vault birth certificate, his college records, and his medical files. If he’s so into transparency then show us the paper, it’s past time.

We will be paying the piper for this gig for decades, and I’m not laughing.

The blame game doesn’t matter at this point. From my perspective there’s a whole lot of blame to go around, right and left.

If we’re still sitting with a stagnant economy, rising unemployment, housing in the hopper or worse, if [God help us all]the economy hits the bottom of the pit, no one’s going to care about Republican collusion [which was/is significant].

This is Obama’s watch and he and the Dems will be blamed. He was elected to get results, not blame the opposition. People want to see their lives improved–keep or get back their jobs and houses, send their kids to school, feel a measure of security in their communities and country at large–not be spectators as politicians pound one another in the sandbox.

You are indeed like a wind-up toy, Pbot.

By the way, you never answered the question of where are the jobs? We were assured unemployment would remain below 8 points if the stimulus passed. That’s very reassuring news towards your wish of a second term. And the indecision on Afghanistan. That’s more reassurance. You should be very comforted by that.

Health care “reform” will pass, no doubt. Based on the lack of jobs and Afghanistan indecision situation, I’m sure everyone will be quite reassured there will actually be reform and not just a bottomless sinkhole for taxpayer dollars.

Mandatory health insurance without being able to find a job. Only in your universe.

Now like a good partisan wind-up toy intoxicated by group-think please blame Bush and bring up Hillary and tell me my alleged hate or loathing of Obama is why he is an inept and ineffectual leader.

I read the comments on this site and it amazes me how the progressives are in such denial. I was at the DNC meeting in D.C. and witnessed first hand as the Obama lovers of the DNC blatantly slaughtered the U.S. Constitution and its own bylaws to illegally hand the chosen one the nom. The bottom line is it was the White independent vote in the general election (along with the fraudulent absentee ballots in certain battleground states) that put Obama in office. He has lost the support of the independents and more and more in the black community are turning on him. What the progressives fail to understand is they are the minority in this country and the silent majority are awake and screaming now. So I take great pleasure everytime I hear any progressive in the media spill their vile and hateful talk against Palin and those in the tea party movement. It only emboddens and makes this real grass root movement stronger. Progressives are scared ie the reason for the personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with their socialist/marxist agenda. The writing is on the wall. You can’t fool the American people twice and 2010 will mark the beginning of the people taking back their government.

Donna, I pray you are right.

“Now like a good partisan wind-up toy intoxicated by group-think please blame Bush and bring up Hillary and tell me my alleged hate or loathing of Obama is why he is an inept and ineffectual leader.”

You nailed it.

Thanks lorac. I seem to have an innate ability to spot patterns, troubleshoot then repair or problem solve. Its frustrating skill to have in this case, since there’s no way for me to re-program and fix this wind-up toy.

I have every confidence 2010 midterms will set voting records across the country. My only fear is the voter registration rolls are so riddled with phony and fraudlent absentee ballot registrations (compliments of ACORN and the Soros/Obama machine) it will be difficult to overcome. The outcome of the N.J. gubernatorial race gave me hope that we can overcome the cheating and the fraud. But we have to recruit strong centrist candidates to run against the professional chronies now in D.C. And we need everyone to vote in massive numbers to get the progressives out of D.C. All dems and Repubs need to wake up. Both parties have been hijacked and its time we kick them all out of office and start rebuilding our country based on the beliefs of the founding fathers and reinstitute the Constistution. Come January the Progressive Dems are going to try and ram thru a universal voting law that will strip states of all power to institute their own voter registration laws. We have to be awake and work to fight against this ursurping of voter rights or it will be impossible to throw any of them out of office. This law will basically do auto registration in every state using federal and state data bases and will allow duplicate registrations in multiple states as well as add millions of dead people to the voting rolls. Once that happens it will open the door for them to overwhelm the system with phony absentee ballots and no recourse to challenge them. Spread the word and watch for the bill to start moving thru committee after the Thanksgiving break.

“The right’s 24/7 campaign of ceaseless spin and negativity is gradually erroding confidence in the only remaining leader who had an approval rating exceeding 50%.”

The “right”? You mean the ONE tv network (Fox) which has dared to be journalists? Only VERY recently are any of ALL the other stations starting to be objective, and honey, they’re not right wing.

“We’ll be left to face our immediate challenges with no leader and no institution that even half of the population is remotely confident in.”

There IS a leader with a high approval rating, and she’s working hard as usual. We’re not responsible for you voting for color over competence.

And it’s not our responsibility to be feeding you more koolaid to keep you happy. You’re just going to have to go through the withdrawals.

kick the ingrates out! in 2010 kick pelosi and reid and their band of know nothings, do nothings out of office.

I like Sarah Palin. Right now, she’s doing great on her book tour. Is she presidential material at this moment? I don’t know. Maybe she herself is not certain where exactly she wants to go? If her momentum continues as it currently is, she’s going to be a force to be reckoned with, no matter which path she decides to follow.
I must also admit if the presidential election was held tomorrow and my choices were between Barack Obama or Sarah Palin, I would not hesitate to vote for Palin.

Allow me to loosely paraphrase Glen Beck: The Republicans are the equivalent of the Democrats in the 1980′s & 90′s…this is not your Daddy’s Democratic party…The current Dems are far left socialists…

Why are the libs so afraid of Sarah?

She is the real deal not manufactured…by MSM.

Oh, you have an innate skill, Galt? Thanks for letting us know your skill set, and yes, I acknowledge that your assessment of my personality and knowledge base were simply devastating; it is taking all of my personal fortitude even to type a response, knowing as I now do your uncanny ability to see searingly into my very soul.

But I’ll try. To answer your questions: anybody who knows anything about economics knows that employment is a lagging indicator of the end of a recession; most economists believe a) that the Obama administration’s 8% assessment early in the year was wildly optimistic and being spouted for purely political reasons; b) nonetheless, the stimulus package and bailouts prevented a full-scale Depression; and c) the stimulus package, in order to get it passed, was way too small to have a sufficient impact on employment. Paul Krugman and other “liberal” economists wrote exactly this six months ago. Now their predictions are coming true, and Congress is talking about a second stimulus, which is almost certainly needed, and will almost certainly be opposed by, um, thinkers such as yourself and other Republicans.

As for Afghanistan: for idiots like you to be whining about Obama taking his time figuring out a rational way to resolve that catastrophe, after the past eight years of object lessons of what happens when a U.S. president rushes heedless into military action without a sufficient plan, constitutes a moral offense against all the U.S. soldiers who have already lost their lives. Obama is acting like a commander in chief. If you’re a Republican in thrall to Limbaugh/Palin-level political thought, I can understand why you wouldn’t recognize genuine leadership when you see it.

Just lost yet another long response to the spam filter. god this is a moronic site. I’ll just make one comment that I missed: your hate and loathing have nothing to do with Obama’s success or failure. People like you are beyond trivial. You are, at best, the right-wing’s answer to Stalin’s “useful idiots.”

Peggy Sue, I agree with you. While I admire Sarah Palin, I feel as though the same cult of personality that won the White House for Obama would be in effect for Palin. Yes, she did have experience as Governor of Alaska, but as someone from Alaska stated, Alaska is not like the other states. I feel that she would bring to the White House the same inexperience that Obama has brought, and we cannot afford another another training period during these difficult times.

Obama, of course. Obama’s and HRC’s positions on issues and lifelong political philosophy are, and always have been, remarkably similar. Whereas Palin…ugh.

Every time Palin opens her mouth, she delivers another astonishing pearl of semi-English. Here’s an exchange with Bill O’Reilly just from the last day or two…

O’REILLY: Let me be very bold and fresh again. Do you believe that you are smart enough, incisive enough, intellectual enough to handle the most powerful job in the world?

PALIN: I believe that I am because I have common sense, and I have, I believe, the values that are reflective of so many other American values. And I believe that what Americans are seeking is not the elitism, the the kind of spineless… a spinelessness that perhaps is made up for that with some kind of elite Ivy League education and a fat resume that’s based on anything but hard work and private sector, free enterprise principles. Americans could be seeking something like that in positive change in their leadership.

I’m sorry, it is very difficult to take seriously anyone who thinks this woman has any shot at the presidency.

the left’s supposed infatuation with the personality of Barack Obama?

Supposed??? WTF? lets just stipulate that this is not open to debate emphatically, and go from there.

Corruption. What BO is and what Palin is not. Period.
I do not agree with many of her positions, I having examined her back round and experiences, I would vote for her just to watch Congress squeal like the pigs at the trough they are. And I mean both side of the isle. I would not stand in her way, as I would take a person of principle over one of deciet, regardless of their views.

lol, you will learn the hard way that those behind all these candidates (financial institutions, military-industrial-congressional-complex, transnationals, foreign governments that carry our debt, oligarchs of every stripe) can and do install whomsoever they wish, including Palin: that’s how we got Bush & BHO.

Notice the absense of umms, errs, ahhhs,and other filler words. Try posting, word for painful word, with all of the ummms and ahhhs and pauses, one of Obama’s off prompter verbal dissasters, and let’s see how THAT reads. YUK!

As a “PROFESSIONAL WRITER!”, you of all people should understand that the rules for grammar and structure are relaxed regarding the colloquial nature of an informal verbal exchange. Only an arrogant asshole, like a “PROFESSIONAL WRITER!”, would demand that spoken language should precisely conform to grammatical rules.

In this answer to O’Reilly’s question, Palin communicated her thoughts far more effectively than the broken, littered, rambling, and nonsensical oratory tortures that often characterize Obama’s candid answers. But that’s because Obama isn’t telling us what he really thinks. If he were truthful about his thoughts, none of us would ever have heard of him.

Umms and errs are what you sometimes get when a person is thinking and choosing words that match the thought. School teachers hate the mannerism, but to my mind it beats not thinking about your words at all, or staring off blankly into space while you consider.

So far as that quoted Palin paragraph goes, I can’t even follow the train of thought. Maybe my old elementary teacher could have diagrammed the sentences and clarified the meaning. It seems to me like a string of memes.

Seriously, people are so shallow to believe that just because they got to pick this time between chocolate and vanilla… that somehow they freely selected their President. What about strawberry? Strawberry never had the chance. It is like setting a doctors office appointment. Everybody pay attention next time around. It goes like this… yes, morning or afternoon? ok we have 10:00 or 11:30. So you get a choice of two each time giving the impression you willfully chose 10:00. But you could never had 12:00 if you would have wanted it. Still, yo weren’t forced, but the office manager got you to conform to office policy before you ever walked in. Americans are so much sheep.

“..choosing words that match the thought.”

It’s more likely, and obvious to many, that Obama searches for words that are non-commital at best, and obfuscating and deceiving at worst.

It’s not Palin, it’s what her popularity reveals about America. It seems strange that many who are so doubtful of the current President’s capabilities, and so critical of the smallest detail of his performance, would immediately conclude that someone like Palin has exactly what it takes. I don’t believe doubts about that are found only among those having liberal-leaning views.