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Is the House Finally Considering Impeachment of Bush?

Two days ago, the House voted to send Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s “latest impeachment effort” (H.R. 1345) to the House Judiciary Committee (CQ).  Merely impeaching President Bush would not remove him from office: removal would require a conviction by two-thirds of the Senate members present. (Constitution, Article I, sections 2 & 3

Given the Senate’s current make up, it seems unlikely that the Senate actually would convict President Bush, but the House has the numbers to impeach him. 

Even without a conviction, mere impeachment would be worthwhile if only to send messages 1) to future presidents with power-abuse problems, and 2) to future school children who will learn about our nation’s character and values by studying American history.

That and impeachment would let the world’s other (largely horrified) nations know that America is not as fundamentally horrifying as the Bush Administration has made us seem.

Today, House Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers announced that the committee will hold a hearing on July 25 about the "the Imperial Presidency of George W. Bush and possible legal responses. "  That seems like a solid move forward on impeachment.  Conyers states:

"Over the last seven plus years, there have been numerous credible allegations of serious misconduct by officials in the Bush Administration….

"Since the beginning of the 110th Congress, the Committee has conducted extensive oversight into  allegations of misconduct by the administration, including:

"(1) improper politicization of the Justice Department and the U.S. Attorneys offices, including potential misuse of authority with regard to election and voting
controversies;

"(2) misuse of executive branch authority and the adoption and implementation of the so-called unitary executive theory, including in the areas of presidential signing statements and regulatory authority;

"(3) misuse of investigatory and detention authority with regard to U.S. citizens and foreign nationals, including questions regarding the legality of the administration’s surveillance, detention, interrogation, and rendition programs;

"(4) manipulation of intelligence and misuse of war powers, including possible misrepresentations to Congress related thereto;

"(5) improper retaliation against administration critics, including disclosing information concerning CIA operative Valerie Plame, and obstruction of justice related thereto; and

"(6) misuse of authority in denying Congress and the American people the ability to oversee and scrutinize conduct within the administration, including through the use of various asserted privileges and immunities."

The Constitution gives the House the right to impeach a president for, among other things, "high crimes and misdemeanors" (Article II, Section 4).  The case law is neither abundant nor definite about what sorts of Presidential behavior qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors," likely because only two presidents have been impeached (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton).

If a president can be impeached (though not convicted) for committing perjury about an extra-marital affair, than I suspect that the House could credibly argue for the impeachment of President Bush based on any of the six types of misconduct that Rep. Conyers listed.

Time’ll tell on this one. [I wasn’t able to link to Conyers’ statement, because it isn’t yet up at the Judiciary Committee website, which I got it via email.

Cross posted at Buck Naked Politics.

  • wodiej

    If they can impeach Clinton for lying about getting a blow job then they sure as hell can impeach Bush! He should have been thrown out long time ago.

  • Bigtime

    He should never have been in the White House as President.

  • http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

    New York Times and National Review Agree: Obama is a Wimp.

    http://patriotroom.com/?p=567

    Here’s a little gem.

    It may say something unflattering about human nature but everybody gets it. However unsophisticated, it’s as basic as this: any ten year-old kid in my neighborhood in inner-city Cleveland would prefer that Hillary Clinton escort them to the corner Seven Eleven than Barack Obama.

    Heh.

  • wodiej

    haha, love it!

  • backtrack

    Iran: Death to non-Muslims

    Lawmakers in Iran are considering a proposal to make the death penalty automatic for those who leave the Muslim faith.

    I guess Obama wont be able to visit after all.

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Persecution/Default.aspx?id=179068

  • Deke

    This should have been done long ago but the spineless democratic leadership only brings it up now to score political points. Instead of voting down the FISA act they decide to hold impeachment hearings this summer. Pathetic

  • onlylewis

    Well if they are going to impeach Bush they might as well go ahead and get obama’s impeachment ready whilr they are busy. If you want to talk about the abuse of power and lies.
    Oh, I forgot he has not been elected yet. Well go ahead and get it ready just in case.

  • wodiej

    LOL

  • NYSmike

    This should have been done a long time ago, but I can see the dems using this, what with Bush’s low approval rating, to see how many of the GOP congress will agree or not, thus possibly using it against re-election. Must have been pushed through by Rahm Emmanuel.

  • tampagurl

    This is a tough one, I think the impeachment of Bill was the down fall of the Republicans. However, I think it’s a bad time for our country to go through something like this. Bush is on his way out and we have energy problems and economic problems going on not to mention Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran to deal with. Our Congress seems to have attention deficit disorder and can only deal with one problem at a time. So, for me I would like them to do something about our economy instead of beating a dead horse.

  • scriptflipper

    ummm

    PUMA!

    NOBAMA

  • don tufts

    this is pure political theater for obamas benefit,they block a vote on offshore drilling that will help us but they can take the time at the end of the jerks presidancy just for show and to think ive supported thease idiots with my hard earned dollars,if they were going to do this it should of happened in january 2007.

  • DeaninMI

    I agree.

    After Obama has been practically selected as the nominee, how can anyone see this as anything other than a ploy to consolidate Democratic votes?

    They could have held impeachment hearings anytime over the last couple of years and they choose less than four months before the GE?!

    I’m not fooled. These people think we are sheep, plain and simple. They’re going to find out these sheep are powerful!

  • KendallJ

    I think that they only reason that they are even considering it is to boost their approval ratings before the elections. Its phony and obvious. At this point, Bush would never be impeached until his term was over or so close over that it would have no real effect, but to make dems look good.

    I think that at this point they will do almost anything to take the focus off their own crooked nomination process!!!!!They will do anything to make voters forget that in a fascist move they disenfranchised Fl. and MI. in order to select their presidential nominee.

    I guess that they think it will help Obama!!

  • onlylewis

    What about the low approval rating of the congress. Should we impeach the entire group. That really sounds like a great idea to me. Will anyone join me in voting them out in Nov.

    If con is the opposite of pro. Does that mean that congress is the opposite of progress ???
    I believe so!!!!!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Bingo, then they’ll try and tie McCain to Bush to bring him down. Pure political theatre. They are now officially as bad as republicans. If they would have done this earlier how many Iraqis and Americans would still be alive. God, I’m sick to my stomach.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    No, they’re doing it to bring down McCain. Otherwise they would have done it earlier. They saved it just for election time.

  • democracyfirst

    We have bigger fish to fry. I agree that doing it now is only to benefit Obama.

    They should have impeached Bush when it would have helped the country. Impeachment at this time would be disastrous for our country because it would give a boost to Obama.

    I’ve supported the Democratic Party all my life but they disgust me now. I always thought the Republican Party was bad but the Democrats are doing everything they can to destroy this country.

  • B from Bloomington

    The dead horse kicked the economy in the teeth.

  • DeaninMI

    Exactly.

    Here is the message I hear from this move.

    “If you vote in a Democratic President this year, you can expect a vote on the impeachment of Bush to ensue.”

    They forget that the goose-stepping they did all over the primaries are not going to be forgotten, or forgiven!

  • imustprotest

    So now Nancy will have to be called Nancy Impeachment is off the table until I need it to save my political backside Pelosi.

  • TeaMug

    They could have held impeachment hearings anytime over the last couple of years and they choose less than four months before the GE?!

    It is strange..I wonder what those trollops are up to with this..Distraction.

    Hillary Clinton for President

  • TeaMug

    ha ha..you made me drop my chicken leg on my knee!!

  • tampagurl

    It may backfire on them Strawberry. That may just be what the Republicans need to get them riled enough to come out in November.

  • democracyfirst

    That’s true – it could backfire by energizing the Rep Party.

    And you’re right – we won’t forget or forgive or fall in line. If we can see through what they did in the primaries don’t they think we can see what they are trying to do with impeachment at this time? They are dumber than dirt.

  • B from Bloomington

    The timing is strategic. I think they tried this in the past, and didn’t get very far. Kucinich tried again in June and the Dems put a freeze on it, kicking it into limbo until they needed it. If bo wasn’t looking bad at the moment, it would be in limbo until totally forgotten.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kucinich.impeach.vote/

  • tampagurl

    Doesn’t matter who’s fault it is, something has to be done about it before it gets worse.

  • Deke

    Teamug trollops I love it. I haven’t heard that since my Irish mother died 17 years ago. That is a good description of today’s democratic party.

  • SoldierofChrist

    I wish they would leave President Bush alone already. He will be put down as the worst president in history, isn’t that enough punishment? Where was Pelosi when Bill and Monica were having their thing? I love Bill Clinton, but, you can’t try to impeach both of these men when they were voted twice by the masses and forgiven by the masses. Each one of them will have to carry a cross for their sins. Leave the both of them alone, already. I guess Pelosi and her minions have nothing else to do with their past time in the”Do nothing Congress” that she runs.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Oh don’t worry, barky alone is enough to get Republicans riled up. My Repub family is freakin’!

  • simanov

    Is Obama a Communist? His plan for a Civilian National Security Force brings back memories of how Mao deployed his red book.

    …Earlier in the month, specifically on 2 July, in Denver another cat, or maybe a socialist gorilla size organization under an Obama administration, should he get elected, was let out of the bag. The young senator from Illinois explained that a volunteer “Civilian National Security Force” was needed to augment our existing security forces. Connecting dots from B. Hussein Obama’s past leads the average beer drinker to conclude that he is now organizing the nation like he did the neighborhood in Chicago. Concern is, however, he, Obama, has been and, apparently, still is an ardent student of Saul Alinsky, a communist organizer that, ironically, also lived in Chicago..

    The world has had lots of experience with youth oriented Civilian National Security Force type organizations, over the last 65 years. In the early 1930s, Hitler’s Third Reich formed the Hitler Jugend that was nothing more than a mind control incubator that helped the Nazis kill 20 million people. Soon after Mao Tse Tung gained control of mainland China his communist party turned his young fanatics loose with their little red books to “re-educate’ the masses. It has been conservatively estimated that 50 million Chinese died from their “re-education.” After the Mullahs gained control of Iran in 1979, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini formed the Basijii, to force non-believers into following the edicts, or fatwas of the Mullahs and Ayatollahs. At this point, it is difficult to estimate the number of mutilations and deaths the Mullahs and Ayatollahs can claim credit for. Last but not least, just the other side of the Panama Canal Hugo Chavez has his “security forces” that are tailored after his friend’s playmates in Cuba.

    http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-obama-communist-his-plan-for.html

  • Deke

    Its good to see people here are seeing through the subterfuge the Democratic Party is attempting. Most here were for the impeachment of Bush but why now. This is going to blow up on their sorry asses and energize the Republicans. The congressional Democrats have nothing to be proud of leading this session of congress. We need a third party in this country.

  • TeaMug

    TROLLOPS

    my nana was Irish

  • Hank

    Distractions, Distractions for Bozo the selectee…

  • cackicoo

    right on…it should have been done along time ago…i am so sick of their shit…worse than the republicans..i never would have believed it….been watching what this worst administration has been doing for 8 years……saw it happening again with this election……it is just sickening what they do…NOTHING!

  • tampagurl

    I’m glad to hear that Strawberry. We are all Democrats in my family. I have 6 siblings and 3 of my sisters plan on voting for Obama. We are all in our 50′s and can no longer talk politics because we fight; Isn’t that ridiculous?

  • DeaninMI

    I’m just waiting for the MSM spin on this one.

    I bet it’ll be a doozy.

  • wodiej

    good! what is your family saying about Obama?

  • wodiej

    yep, it’s insane. My Mother called me some rather nasty names when I wouldn’t vote for Bush! I couldn’t believe it! I stayed away from the subject because I knew how she was about it but she wanted to pick a fight.

  • http://www.hillaryclinton.com/contribute/IJ97 Jimbus

    Riiight, just like Ronnie Reagan and George Sr. during Iran-Contra. Even Ollie North is on Fox now. The CIA controls the flow of drugs throughout the globe, which in turn pays for operations like the supposed Sunni-Shite insurgency or Al-Qaeda. Keeping US forces in a region of the globe we are economically one hundred percent dependent. George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice will all go on to lead healthy and very prosperous lives. Newt Gingrich was having an affair while impeaching Bill Clinton. It wasn’t the blowjob that got Clinton impeached it was lying about it. Reagan gave a record number of “I don’t recall…”, and W.? He doesn’t recognize the authority of the court or congress. He is King, afterall, granted his power by God, so he doesn’t even testify.

  • Hayden

    When you want your news commentary to be fun…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngu7eqS0Ox8

  • Grail Guardian

    I am with you (on both counts)!

    We will remember in November; no votes for any Democratic candidate on the Democratic line if they don’t get their collective heads out of Obama’s butt.

    Just say no to down line Dems!

  • tampagurl

    My sisters have stupid reasons for voting for Obama. They hate Republicans and say they just want a Democrat in office, I get furious with them and we end up hanging up on each other.

  • pew

    CNN just said, Nancy Pelosi has a Rating of 9%
    Bush has a Rating Of 28%

    Cafferty says her ratings are lower than Bushes.

    Wonder if Puma has something to do with that?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DemocracyDame Woman Voter

    Hemmm, could it be that Pelosi found out about the OLIVE branch extended to Cindy within the last couple of days? Yes, PUMA has gone regional! PUMA is willing to support all candidates that are for ONE PERSON ONE VOTE and are especially fond of women that don’t fall in line!

    Go, Cindy GO!
    http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
    …………………………
    Lift the Veil. Hillary Clinton Beijing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0…h? v=0xwSc_BMQHs

    She has brought up the plight of women’s struggle for human rights, even if her own rights in her own country were abridged by not counting the votes.

    Hillary you are America…NEVER GIVE UP!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Um, I did say my family is republican, right? I’m the lone liberal democrat, well both my husband and I are the lone democrats on both sides…what do our famlies think of Barky? Think Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh with a little David Duke thrown in for good measure…yup, and people wonder why hubby and I get blind stinking drunk starting around Halloween and ending a little after New Years. (sigh).

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/DemocracyDame Woman Voter

    Lift the Veil. Hillary Clinton Beijing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwSc_BMQHs

    Hope the link works!

  • BytheBeardofZeus

    Where was Pelosi and Company in 2003?
    They rubber stamped this whole mess, that’s where!

  • tampagurl

    Wonder if Puma has something to do with that?

    No, I’m pretty sure it’s all Nancy. People can see right through her phony smile. She’s the worst Speaker we have ever had.

  • Grail Guardian

    Don’t worry – this is way too little, way too late.

    I view it like breaking into a guy’s house to rob him blind, them offering him a cut of the profits when he walks in with his .12 gauge pointed at your head.

    No one will be buying this garbage a year and a half after these morons took control of the House. Besides, who wants Cheney or (God forbid!) Pelosi in charge if it actually works?

  • judd

    The first order of business is to impeach Nancy Pelosi because she is a crook and a freak.

    The next order of business is to bring charges agianst Dean, Pelosi, Obama for violations of the civil rights of the voters.

    Bush is done and gone.

    Our country already is looking foolish with this Obama for President now going abroad with his messianic followers.

    Someone needs to deal with Obama’s abuse and impeach him before he gets to the convention.

    There are special forces protectors of the presidency out there and they are not doing their jobs.

    They need to get on the court and finalize the impeachment of Obama from the nomination.

    Obama is out of control and is about to compromise our country in a serious manner.

    Let’s go special ops…….get to it.

  • pew

    Nancy Pelosi,ratings 9%
    Bushes Ratings 28%
    Cnn says Pelosi’s ratings less than Bush..lol

    Wonder if Puma responsible?

    Go Clinton for President

  • MP98

    Lets see:

    Sounds like you people are mad at Bush because there have been NO terrorist attacks in the USA since 9/11.

  • Grail Guardian

    Amen!

  • Grail Guardian

    And she had such stiff competition!

  • tampagurl

    LOL, I can imagine what they are saying about Obama. I doubt if you could repeat in in public,LOL.

  • Grail Guardian

    Uhh, you can’t impeach someone that hasn’t been elected yet…

  • simanov

    In 2006 the voters have given the Democratic party a chance. Look at what they have done – 14% approval and shady primary tactics. This year was supposed to be a walk in the park for the party, Obama should have double digit lead. My hunch, the voters will retaliate. How do you recover from all this, you don’t, you start a new party.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    New carrot…same stick.

  • Obama is a bum

    This is more evidence why people hate congress — they are more worried about playing political stunts than getting anything accomplished. Never mind a weak economy or $4 for gas.

  • Grail Guardian

    If you’re looking for Bush supporters, you’ve come to the wrong place. Please don’t even get the people here started about all the reason Bush should have been impeached in January 2007. Your elephant will choke.

  • Patti

    Oh please, Let’s not be distracted. There is plenty of time for that. Nobama has no intere$t in this ~ status quo is momentus.

    How is that for Latin, HoBo DunnHam?

    Walk on water, first and then show me Impeachment someday. A distraction, its just a minute diversion and time will play this one out.

    White House as Is is Honkey-Scory for the self-nominated demostatic-hypocratic candidate for dicktator of the whole wide world.

    Where is Ed Rendell, Michael Nutter, President Clinton, Senator Clinton, Josh Shapiro, Jesse Jackson, Kathy and Norman Bates when you need them? James and Mary Carville, come out, come out wherever you are!

    General Election First. Cheyney & Cohorts, next. Leave poor little Geoge alone. He’s a personal fella if only you got to know him. He has a higher Father.

  • one eyed jack

    screw john conyers. bush needs to be impeached, but conyers is about as lousey as the guy he would impeach.

  • Postmaster

    Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, once the demobutts get that done they can start in on themselves…..unbelievable. After the crap the DNC pulled on Hillary, they need to hang their heads in shame and shut up.

  • Lil’ Mike

    Ain’t gonna happen. The Democrats in Congress are a bunch of wimps. They don’t have the balls to actually impeach Bush.

  • democracyfirst

    Third party is just what we need and now!

  • tampagurl

    I don’t know if MP98 is a bot trying to start something or a Republican. But for all of you Republicans out there…Please don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

  • http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.com/ timepassages

    Could it be due to the 9% approval rate of Congress?? Isn’t it just a little to late?

    http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/

  • http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.com/ timepassages
  • hank48188

    The DEM leadership wouldn’t have the nerve to make a move on any issue, they have had control for 2 years and Bush stills runs the agenda there. Have you ever seen anyone more inept than Nancy Pelosi? and then yesterday she calls Bush out for incompetence, that’s the perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black. Why does she think she has leadership skills?

  • hank48188

    His wife Monica is on Detroit City Council and they are caught up in a F.B.I. investigation of a sludge hauling contract, can’t wait to see her marched out of of City Hall in handcuffs with the rest of the crooks.

  • one eyed jack

    I want some third party too. To hell with this chocalate party

  • getfitnow

    It’ll never make it out of committee. It’s all “theater”.

  • Seattle Moss

    Bush made real mistakes but..
    McCain has shown the superior judgment to win the Iraq war for America when everyone was fatigued and prepared to cut and run.

    I’m glad that we’re in Iraq and now have two countries Israel and Iraq who are uniquely allied with the United States in a region where World Resource Wars can take place.
    Our position in Iraq keeps a check on Iranian Hegemony.
    Our position in Iraq protects the Gulf States for free flow of oil to the Western World.
    Our position in Iraq is leading to a free and democratic Iraq which will be rich and pro America.
    Our position in Iraq prevents outside interference from countries such as Russia and China.
    Our position in Iraq is destroying Alqueda ability to take control of a sovereign country
    Our position in Iraq shows other dictatorships that America has balls and will protect the western worlds vital interests.

    Thank you John McCain for showing us Leadership and not listening to opinion polls.

    Impeaching Bush?
    Hardly!
    Years from now the Iraq war may even look like a brilliant strategy for the protection of the Western Civilized world.

  • http://confloyd connie floyd

    All this impeachment talk is nothing more than smoke and mirrors! We all know the republicans put him in and Pelosi, Reid, Dean has made a deal with the devil to get the power. We, the people, are powerless in this bought and paid for election!

  • Seattle Moss

    The Obama people wish for Terrorist attacks to get Bush
    The Obama people wish for defeat in Iraq to get Bush
    The Obama people wish for American Humiliation and retreat in Iraq to get Bush.
    The Obama people wish for a Great Depression to get Bush

    The Obama people wish their own destruction to get Bush.

  • sfhillary

    Anything that brings down McCain is fine by me. The fate of the union depends on it.

  • Seattle Moss

    Just so that you know..
    I was against this war and even was a Dean supporter up till the scream.
    This is not Bush’s war anymore!
    It’s ours!
    We all own this war now!
    We must take responsibility and make it right for the Iraqi’s and for the rest of the world.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Ouch!

  • http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html Factcheck2

    Anyone interested in knowing more about Pelosi, I wrote an article for my newspaper in San Francisco right before she became Speaker in 2006. Suprisingly little is written about her, and its a shame, because to know her is to know how far down the sewer the Democratic Party has gone. Here’s a direct link (PDF). For an article about the manipulation of this year’s presidential election, click on my screen name.

    http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Oct_25/NancyPelosi.pdf

  • judd

    Grail Guardian

    I used “Impeach Obama” as a figurative way of making another statement……………..

    That is understood without question…………….

  • basil

    This is bizarro.

    John Conyers was originally on board for impeaching Bush but I guess after his wife Monica, was investigated by the FBI for fraud he didn’t want to call attention to himself. :evil:

    All i know is one day he was for it, the next day, not so much.

    Why in the world would congress start an impeachment process less than 6 months before Bush leaves office except to distract from Waffles fumbling and perhaps try to link McCain to Bush?

  • pew

    Cnn said Pelosi ratings are 9%
    Bush ratings are 28%

    Cnn commented on how Low Pelosi’s are to Bush,

    Is it Puma or Is it the Drilling?

    Clinton-08

  • Hope Floats

    Impeachment should never have been put off until it was politically expedient. There is simply no time to impeach him now. He will be just finishing his term by the time they go through all the motions.

  • Hope Floats

    WTF?

  • Anonymous

    The only thing Bush is guilty of (unlike Clinton) is making unpopular decisions. That’s why this issue of impeachment has repeatedly fallen apart. Nobody wants to be humiliated in front of the entire nation by a failed impeachment bid. Plus it’s been WAY too soon since Clinton was impeached. Bringing the issue up, especially before an election would hurt the democratic party hardcore.

  • Seattle Moss

    “Bringing the issue up, especially before an election would hurt the democratic party hardcore”.

    So I guess the answer is

    Bring it up!!!

    Anything that brings down these New Demokrats is welcome.

  • Anna Ana Mus

    Funny how the Dems shelved Kucinich’s impeachment articles when first presented to them. Now that the October surprise regarding Obama is getting closer and closer, the Dems need to distract the voters to try to get the voters to turn to Obama. This is nothing more than political posturing by Pelosi. Pelosi and Obama don’t want to drill and no longer have the executive order to hide behind so it’s just time for them to try to distract the public with talk of impeachment.

    The American voters need to DEMAND the resignation of Pelosi.

    Quite frankly I think the only reason Obama objected to the war was because he had close ties to some in the middle east who made it financially worth his while to object. We should look at who donated and how much after Obama claims to have made his public objection to the war. Follow the money…

  • http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/ Deb Cupples

    There’s no reason our Congress can’t do both.

    and while Bush is in office threatening vetoes all over the place, our Congress can’t do much of anything anyway.

  • http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/ Deb Cupples

    For the reasons I mentioned in the post, I think that impeaching Bush (even if he doesn’t get convicted) would be a positive step for our nation.

    I don’t care whether or not Obama benefits, because there are bigger issues at stake. If our Congress doesn’t rebuke Bush, future Congresses might have difficulty reigning in future presidents.

    Also, there IS a chance that Obama will be the next president. If so, would you rather he take office thinking that there are no consequences for presidents who break the law?

  • http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/ Deb Cupples

    I don’t care why, and I don’t care who else might benefit from impeachment.

    I’ve been wanting impeachment for a long time and think it’s necessary for our nation to formally acknowledge that Presdent Bush did a lot of bad things.

  • Diana

    They’ve had two years to do this. To do the “right thing”. Investigate. This is nothing but a ploy to bring McCain down by association with Bush. Not for the right reasons, if it were for the right reasons they wouldn’t wait till 4 months before the GE to say we want to now do the right thing.

    This is being done for the wrong reasons. To push Obama. I’m willing to bet if Hillary were the nominee it wouldn’t be being done. They’ve done everything within their power to push Obama down our throats.

    I don’t know what to think about this. They’ve ignored people for years, now 4 months before the election they want to do something…I’m not buying it. I’m sorry. It’s a ploy.

  • Mirlo

    Now that he was in the EH, let’s take a look at his next job:

    RESUME

    GEORGE W. BUSH
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    Washington , DC 20520

    EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

    Law Enforcement:
    I was arrested in Kennebunkport , Maine , in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been “lost” and is not available.

    Military:
    I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam ..

    College:
    I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.
    PAST WORK EXPERIENCE :
    I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
    I began my career in the oil business in Midland , Texas in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas . The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

    I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

    With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas .

    ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:

    I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union . During my tenure,Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America .

    I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

    I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.

    With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida , and my father’s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President of the United States , after losing by over 500,000 votes.

    ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

    I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

    I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week.

    I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

    I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

    I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

    I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

    I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues.

    I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My “poorest millionaire,” Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

    I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.

    I am the all- time U.S and world record -holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

    My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history, Enron.

    My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

    I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

    I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

    I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

    I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any President in U.S. history

    I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States Government.

    I’ve broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.

    I am the first President in U.S history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

    I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

    I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. “prisoners of war” detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

    I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US election).

    I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television.

    I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

    I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

    I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind.

    I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. Citizens and the world community.

    I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.

    In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

    I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

    I am supporting development of a nuclear “Tactical Bunker Buster,” a WMD.

    I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

    RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

    All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father’s library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

    All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

    All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. I specified that my sealed documents will not be available for 50 years.
    PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW!

    “Susan S.”

  • Mirlo

    Sorry, should read….in the WH (not EH)

  • Diana

    This is exactly what is bothering me also. No one even wanted to listen to him when he brought it up. I think I need to plan a trip to Washington to have breakfast with Senator Feinstein and ask some very pointed questions about Hillary and a few more things. Pelosi has ignored every email I’ve sent. I just sent one to Senator Feinstein. She’s always taken the time to answer my emails I hope she does this time also.

  • Diana

    I got this from one of my friends in Germany today that I asked to please send me his speech.

    I’ve hear today, that he don’t speak on the “wall” or we say “Brandenburger Tor” in Berlin!!…. Man, i was so angry when i hear he want this…. And did you know, that the Newspapers compare Obama’s wife with Jacki Kennedy !! ANGRY!!!! ANGRY!! What did the Newspaper think??…. I have no idea…..
    I was everytime a big big fan from Kennedy, i was a young children he was brutally murdered.
    And i will look that i can do this for you. We don’t drive to Berlin to see him or hear him. But in TV or Online radio it comes through. Let me see….. Oh my gosh, why ??? people in US did chosen him?? Why???
    Did no one see what he is for a man?? There are not all people here in Germany friendly with Obama.
    There would be many people demonstrate – i’ve hear this. He is not welcome here in Germany!

  • Diana

    8 of my brothers and sisters are Democrats. Their spouses are Democrats. My parents are Democrats. All my neices and nephews Democrats. There are 32 of them are Democrats. I have one sister that is a Republican. Her husband is Independent. My husband and son are Republican. His wife, my daughter and her husband are/were Democrats. One thing I know for a fact though is not one of them will be voting for Obama. They’re either staying home of voting for McCain and without any help from me. They’ve never voted for a Republican before. They’re all in Ohio. Except for my Republican sister she is in Indiana. Thought I was a traitor for voting for Reagan. Other than my daughter/her husband/my daughter in law those I’ve showed articles and videos to get my point across. I’ve gotten all of them to move to McCain’s side which makes my son happy. My daughter in law is so angry she switched to being a Republican. My Daughter hasn’t switched parties, and my son in law has switched to Independent. I’m not sure which. My husband is holding his nose and voting for McCain. ;)

  • Diana

    This has nothing to do with it, if you look through the threads we have said good things about Bush as well. We also have a long list of things we’re not pleased about. I’m sorry if that offends you. We don’t go out and heckle him for it.

    You can’t tell us that Bush hasn’t made mistakes. That would make you as blind as the Obamabots. The popular vote for McCain within the Republican party was an in your face, so not all Republicans are happy with him either or the Ultra Conservatives.

    So, if your a Republican you shouldn’t pick fights with us. Many are voting for McCain because he’s reached across the table, and because he “isn’t” Bush. What most of us are saying is this is a ploy to associate McCain with Bush. It is being done for the wrong reasons. They should have done this when it was first brought up if they wanted to do it for the “right” reasons. They’ve had two years as the majority yet waited till four months before the GE.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    All this talk of impeacehment is just Democrats sour grapes and yet another example of thier total mismanagment of Congress.

    Insetead of having bazillion hearings on non-existant “scandals” where was congress holding hearings on their Frankensteins, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac?

    These are two institutions that , because of Congress, are accountable to no one but Congress.

    Of course, it’s only our money on the line, so I guess it’s not important.

    Oh yeah,.. lets have Scott McClellen testify about his vague paranoid feelings of being ignored by the big boys! Lets investigate the President’s unquestionalbe authority to fire attorneys.

    Lets bring Karl Rove to ask him about nothing!

    Time and time again.. going all the way back to Enron the Democrats have been engaged in this non-ending search for anything ANYTHING to stick to Bush as payback for the truly corrupt Clinton adminstration.

    Meanwhile the Democrat leadership has done nothing at all in the interest of the country since taking power.

    Have they cut back spending? no.

    Have they moved to reduce the deficit? no

    Have they moved to do anything to strenghten the dollar despite the Fed’s determination to make valueless? No.

    Have they done anythign to alleviate this crushing cost of food and fuel on the people? No. They welcome it.

    Have they done anything to enhance the security of the country? Well yes.. but had to , dragged kicking and screaming all the way.

    Are they doing anyting to ensure our first amendment rights are’t threatened by govt regulation or abusive lawsuits by foriegn elements? Nope

    They have done nothing.. or worse.. they have prevented measures that will actually be productive.

    And there’s a ticking time-bomb.. because the tax cuts of earlier in the decade have expiration dates (who thought of that stupid idea??) these automatic increases are coming:

    The tax code changes enacted in 2001 and 2003 are scheduled to expire at the end of 2010. If they do, statutory marginal tax rates will rise across the board, ranging from a 13 percent increase for the highest-income households to a 50 percent increase for lower-income households. The marriage penalty will be reimposed and the child credit cut by $500 per child. The long-term capital-gains tax rate will rise by one-third (to 20 percent from 15 percent), and the top tax rate on dividends will nearly triple (to 39.6 percent from 15 percent). The estate tax will roar back from extinction at the same time, with a top rate of 55 percent and an exempt amount of only $1 million. Finally, the alternative minimum tax will reach far deeper into the middle class, ensnaring 25 million tax filers in its web.

    What are they going to do about this? Nothing..

    Just who are the Democrats and Republicans in Congress working for? Cuz it aint me.

  • Diana

    You also don’t care if Obama wins. I do. Sorry. I wanted an investigation into the accusations for the right reasons. Which this is not. I’m sorry but I couldn’t hate Bush enough to put Obama in office.

  • Dee

    Great timing. Lets throw in an election time guaranteed winner red-herring!

    This is a deliberate distraction by the Dem leadership to make the GOP seem like Godzilla so as to insure that a horrified public will abandon the NOBama campaign & vote for him out of sheer terror of McCain & the spector of a third Bush presidency.

    Well, we won’t fall for it. Let’s stay focused & not be hoodwinked by the corrupt Dem leadership’s cheap ploy!

    Remember, BO was selected, not elected & no matter what side shows they throw out, nothing will change that fact!

  • Dee

    AMEN!!!!!!

  • Dee

    AMEN!!

  • onlylewis

    It’s because pelosi is worse than you can ever imagine bush being. The woman is a __________!
    You can fill in the blanks.

    Drill here! Drill now! Drill anywhere!!
    Just Drill!!!

  • democracyfirst

    I understand and respect your position on this but I don’t agree with it.

    Congress, led by Democrats, had no interest in impeaching Bush (remember what Pelosi said?) when it would have prevented more illegal activities by the Bush admin. Now they have flipped. This makes it a very transparent sham. Especially since they know there is no chance of Bush being convicted. All it would do is tarnish Bush’s legacy further – if that is possible.

    I don’t believe there would be a problem impeaching future Presidents, if necessary. In fact, what the Democrats have done may enlighten future Congresses so they will take action, including impeachment, in time.

    I have been calling for Bush to be impeached for years. I am all for impeaching him – he and his cohorts are criminals. If the Democrats think they can make up for their ignorance and spinelessness now, let them wait until the day after the election. It wouldn’t be any more or less symbolic then than it would be now. And it would have more impact because it wouldn’t look like a political ploy.

  • mkevinf

    Don’t expect anything to come of this. It takes Congress so long to move, Bush will be out of office by the time they get around to any kind of vote.

    The only consequence of the hearings will be to feed right wing talk radio, possibly backfire on the Democrats in the fall elections, and they will be treated in the MSM as a partisan last minute gasp by a Democratic controlled Congress with the lowest approval ratings since Gallup has been polling that category.

    The one benefit is that we, the Democrats outside the Beltway, will have an opportunity to see our concerns regarding this Administration’s lawlessness addressed via the House Judiciary Committee.

    But, it is too little, too late, and I fear the Imperial Presidency in its latest iteration as the “Unitary Executive” is in place for a while. Both of the next likely occupants of the Oval Office have endorsed that view with their votes on the FISA amendments of a few weeks ago.

    Power trumps hope everytime.

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