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Literature, Or Reality?

* bumped up because this is an infuriating story that every American should know about *

I’ve been reading a book by the novelist, Vince Flynn, Extreme Measures. If you are unfamiliar with Mr. Flynn’s books, they typically deal with the CIA, Washington, DC, and how politics affect the intelligence community, following the exploits of the main protagonist, Mitch Rapp, as he works to ensure the safety of the country. This book is no different.

Here is more about it (and writing in general) in Vince Flynn’s own words:

So why the book report? Well some of you may have heard about the three Navy Seals being charged for assault, who now face court martial, after capturing an incredibly dangerous terrorist, Ahmed Hashim Abed. I swear, it is just like some major scenes in the book mentioned above. It’s uncanny.

Anyway, the claim against the Navy Seals? They gave the terrorist a bloody lip when they captured him. I am not kidding. A bloody lip. Heck, I’ve seen people get bloody lips playing a game of pick-up basketball. Bear in mind, this terrorist is responsible for murdering four Blackwater guards, burning them, and dragging them through the streets of Fallujah in 2004. And, the Seals involved claim he was fine when they nabbed him:

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

Neal Puckett, an attorney representing McCabe, told Fox News the SEALs are being charged for allegedly giving the detainee a “punch in the gut.”

“I don’t know how they’re going to bring this detainee to the United States and give us our constitutional right to confrontation in the courtroom,” Puckett said. “But again, we have terrorists getting their constitutional rights in New York City, but I suspect that they’re going to deny these SEALs their right to confrontation in a military courtroom in Virginia.”

The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three SEALs — two officers and an enlisted sailor — have been identified by investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.

FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

“I gave the detainee a glance over and then left,” the SEAL wrote. “I did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in good health.”

I might add, you know from my previous writings, I have no love lost for Blackwater. But, these guys were simply protecting a supply chain when they were attacked, no, murdered, and then set on fire.

Here is more on the tactics being used by Abed:

We are a nation of laws, but it seems to me we need to be careful that our laws are not manipulated by the very people who have harmed us. Torture is wrong, but for these Seals to be treated the way they are as a result of, at best minor injuries, and more likely, false claims by this terrorist mastermind, is disturbing. To say the least. In this case, reality is mimicking literature. Read the book, you’ll see.

  • Kim

    I hate what is happening to those Navy Seals. I know that they are highly skilled and highly trained professionals. I think they ought to be given a break here. They did a great service to this country by capturing that murdering terrorist piece of trash. They should be lauded, not punished. It seems that in this day and time, the victims become the criminals and the criminals become the victims.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Kim, you are absolutely right – they should be lauded. What does it say abt how our system works that these men who sacrifice their lives, and often their home lives, to keep our country safe, or to catch those who have killed our citizens, are treated as if THEY were the criminals in this situation.

      It is aggravating (to say the least) to see how easily our justice system can be manipulated by the very ones who seek to destroy it.

      • hokma

        I don’t know what is going on in our military but it appears political correctness has encroached too far on how the military is run.

        The charges against these men is as dispicable as Obama’s choice to try prisoners of war in civilian court.

        Add to it General Casey’s remark after the Fort Hood terrorist act (“Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.) and you can understand why Iran and other enemies of our country laugh at us and don’t take us as a serious threat now.

        Also, thanks for the book recommendation.

  • elaine

    rrrAmy, This type of twisted p.c. coming out of the military is awful. Here’s another terrible tale about 1LT. Michael Behenna of the 101st Airborne, google: Edmond family fighting for Soldier’s Freedom by Jay F. Marks. There’s a video interview with his parents, his mother is a federal prosecutor who helped prosecute Tim McVeigh & she does a good job of laying out her son’s case. I heard about this case in a solicitation for legal defense funds from United American Patriots Warrior Fund PO Box 96565 Washington, DC 20090-6565 Attention case # MCB-5704 The Army excluded crucial evidence from its own forensic expert that could exonerate this Army Ranger.

  • elaine

    1Lt. Michael Behenna is a story of a fine soldier the Army is trying to put away for 25 years for shooting an A.Q. member in self defense. Sorry I can’t list a hot link, am running too many programs on an old computer

  • jbjd

    R3A, I had avoided reading about this case until now because it sounded too contrived. But reading your post, I decided to investigate further. I accessed the link you provided to the FOX site; not enough information. Then, I found this NavyTimes link, which contained an interesting quote.

    Neal Puckett, a defense attorney who is representing McCabe, said the SEALs are being essentially charged for allegedly giving the detainee “a punch in the gut.”
    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/11/UPnavy_seals_charged_112409w/

    Nothing in the article mentioned, the detainee required any medical attention or ‘suffered’ any permanent injuries. I still have no idea what happened; or whether these alleged assaults took place while the SEALs were apprehending and securing the prisoner. If so, this prosecution seems to be ‘overkill’ (except perhaps for the charges related to impeding the investigation).

    As for whether real life is imitating fiction, well, those distinctions were long ago blurred. As I have previously said, since BO came onto the scene, it’s like watching a continuous reel of “Wag the Dog.”
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=wag+the+dog&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=WSgQS5PFE8ejlAfontmRBA&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCIQqwQwAw#q=wag+the+dog&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=WSgQS5PFE8ejlAfontmRBA&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCIQqwQwAw&qvid=wag+the+dog&vid=1329857914671523731

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      jbjd, I couldn’t agree more abt the movie, “Wag The Dog.” That is EXACTLY what it seems like.

      I understand your hesitancy to look at articles abt this issue until now, but it would seem from what their atty said that these are trumped up charges. And the speaker on the Fox video mentioned that this is a tactic of these terrorists now, to either hurt themselves, or claim those who captured them injured them in some way. Really disturbing…

      • jbjd

        Yes; these charges so far fail to pass the smell test. And this is why I could not imagine this would really proceed. Until R3A reported it. Then, I figured, it was worth taking a look. (I get a lot of my news in this way now.)

        • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

          Ah, jbjd, you warm my heart!

          Yeah, it does seem to be proceeding, shockingly enough. Pretty discouraging.

          • Silence Dogood

            I could see a reprimand for a punch in the gut or bloody nose, but not a court martial. That’s lunacy.

            I have a fear when all is said and done and this present administration is sent packing, we could end up with an equally disturbing reactionary administration as blow-back opposite reaction to this madness.

            Alas, Hillary was our chance to break this cycle, but we were robbed of this chance.

            I hope my fear does not come to fruition.

            • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

              I appreciate your concern abt blow-back. I think it is all too likely.

              Indeed we were robbed – sigh. Every day it is clear just hob big a deal that was, or seems so to me anyway…

            • NomNomNom

              they chose a court martial over NJP.

              • TeakWoodKite

                NomNomNom, first I do hope you had a great TG.
                It is apparent that these Seals don’t think having a negative report in their files is appropriate or just. I get the impression, from what few accounts I have been able to read, that these Navy seals have no intention of taking a bum rap and will challenge this proceeding out of principle. I would.

                As you said, they follow orders, and the one thing that would irrate the crap out of a Navy Seal is bullshit accusations arising out of carrying out those orders.

                The other thought is that the CYA has reached all the way down the ranks regarding BO saying “we don’t torture”.
                This whole episode WILL be noticed by our special forces that this nation sends to do a nasty job they have been well trained for. We do NOT need them second guessing the orders they are following.

  • helenk

    I am not so sure I would want my kids or grand children in the military today.
    Look at this with the Seals, Lt Behennam Valerie Plame, the military who did nothing about the major at Fort Hood, who is the real enemy your own government or the guys that are shooting at you?
    I respect the military and I am grateful to all those who serve.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • TeakWoodKite

    Rev. I am SO glad that you posted on this. I would just note that the Blackwater employees that were murderd, were quickly “discarded” by Blackwater and the congressional testimony given supports this.

    I really like the fact that you mentioned our laws being used as a avenue for this nations demise. It gets at the heart of the matter.

    I really think these highly trained individuals, who’s ranks are in high demand, have better things to do than become pawns in someone elses agenda.
    Did they permenently disable the perp? No. At a minimum, I would EXPECT, these SEALS, if required to, “sap” any motivation the target may have to be beligerant.

    Again thanks.
    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/11/UPnavy_seals_charged_112409w/

  • sandi78

    I love Vince Flynn’s books. I’ve read them all and I wish he’d write them faster!

    This is an appalling story. Unfortunately, not unbelievable.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Unfortunately, too many of Flynn’s books are all too plausible (I think he was investigated by the FBI after one of his books, if memory serves).

      helenk, I hear you – the military branches and our intelligence community seem to have mighty thankless jobs.

      Thanks for the comments, folks!

      • sandi78

        Really? Investigated by the FBI? They do seem very “real”, unlike wome others. Larry was thanked in one of them, I forget which one, and that immediately made me believe that Flynn really does know what goes on.

        • sandi78

          Hmmm, “some others”. sorry.

          • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

            I’m pretty sure he mentioned it in an interview recently. He definitely has friends in the intelligence biz (and cool that he mentioned Larry – I wondered if he knew him. I must have missed that acknowledgment). If I can find the interview, I’ll pass along the link.

  • Peggy Sue

    Well, I suppose in the topsy-turvy world we’re living in this makes sense, Amy: we demonize our own and give pity parties for terrorists.

    The world really has gone mad!!

  • tango

    Oh Goodness. The military refuses to dimiss or properly discipline Major Hasan after numerous questionable acts (before his killing spree) but a handful of Navy Seals either punch a terrorist in the gut &/or give him a bloody lip and they get court martialed? WTF? Has military leadership lost it’s mind?

    • TeakWoodKite

      Has military leadership lost it’s mind?

      BO is CIC. Good question, painful answer.

  • http://! stodgie

    maybe i am a conspiracy nut, but i wonder just who is making our military so dang pc. where are the orders regarding this type of garbage thinking coming from? don’t you folks think that question has some merit? why would a military officer make a comment about diversity after the ft hood shootings without pressures from the great racist himself.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Well, that is a good question. Obviously our enemies now know that they simply have to claim they have been “abused,” and the focus shifts off of them and onto their “abusers.”

      Again, I am not taking abt people who flat out engage in torture. But, IF this man suffered any injuries – and that’s a big IF – they do not seem to be overly severe.

      Hopefully, this case will be dismissed immediately, but that these Seals have to go through this in the first place is disconcerting.

  • Cathy in Ks.

    From what little I have read about the “jihadists”, prevarication is a virtue, if in the process you destroy the infidel. Surely our military and our government are aware of this, if the average, not very well-informed citizen knows of this (here I’m referring to myself). Sounds like a case of “he said vs. they said” situation but the murderous, lying, terrorist is the one who is being seen as the most credible person.
    Yes,I too wonder if there is something more sinister going on here? Does the “buck not only stop” with our CIC but also “start” with the same person? I don’t know. However, I’m going to start reading Vince Flynn’s novels. Sounds like a good place to begin.

  • NomNomNom

    well I will stick my neck out.
    One of the 3 SEALS is believed to have struck Abed after he was already subdued and in custody; then 2 of his friends lied about the incident in reports and to superiors trying to protect him. This is obvious when one looks at the charges against them:

    “Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

    Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

    Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.”

    Regardless of one’s opinion on punching terrorists (“alleged terrorists” for the pcers), dereliction of performance of duty, making false statements, impeding investigations, and assault are all against the USMCJ, therefore these are all rightfully punishable offenses.
    The men were only initially given an admiral’s mast (Article 15)(which they refused in favor of a court martial): this is NJP.
    http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/l/blucmj15.htm; it has variable penalties, they are not most of them severe; can include some confinement, some pay forfeiture, possible demotion; it leaves a mark on your record but is not a criminal conviction.
    My man was a counterterrorist in the army; stateside he also conveyed prisoners to Leavenworth: his statement: “Soldiers follow orders.”

  • Silence Dogood

    I was hoping I was going to be wrong about this administration. I guess my hope got lost in all the wonderful “change” we are witnessing.

    • Peggy Sue

      Silence, I was hoping the same thing. Which means, I guess, I’ll need to be more careful with the word “hope.”

  • dangoldblatt@yahoo.com

    I’m thankful for my loving aunt Ethel Markowitz who is my hero and the person who shaped my thinking. My aunt is a humanist of the first order: she is a vegetarian who serves tofu burgers on Thanksgiving (instead of joining the savage slaughtering of turkeys). She was the one that gave me my first copy of the Communist Manifesto when I was 9 and taught me about fairness, justice and equality. She was the only one that supported me when I came out of the closet and even hooked me up with a much older and experienced boyfriend when I was 12. This woman is so tireless in her love of justice that she is a volunteer activist for Code Pink. She works at a restaurant and whenever a guy in a soldier’s or police uniform comes in, she spits in their food. If it’s a soldier carrying a holstered gun she also blows her nose in their food. I admire and thank my aunt Ethel for what she does for world peace and for making America a better place and for being so selfless. Fight the power!

    • HARP

      I think you are the same idiot that believes they are a professor at Berkeley.

  • Just_Saying

    Dangoldblatt, if you’re not being sarcastic about your Aunt Ethel, I pity you. Your Aunt Ethel is scum of the earth, and used you for criminal activity several times, evidently.
    .

  • helenk

    Dangoldblatt
    If you are not being sarcastic you could be part of backtrack’s family. I am sure you could get a job at the white house with no problem. You would fit right in with the crowd.
    Anything that hurts America while living well in this country.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      I, too, hope this comment is a misguided attempt at sarcasm or humor. Otherwise, it is simply disturbing, especially the kinds/types of unlawful, immoral actions noted…

  • creeper

    Good grief, dangoldblatt! What did she put in your soyburger, anyway?

    Better go back to turkey. Tryptophan is nowhere near as dangerous as whatever you’re having.

  • BINKY

    These SEALS should be given a trial by jury in a civilian court (with protections equal to those given to the enemy combatants!), and I’d love to be on that jury! Why in the name of all that’s precious to us would anyone want to join today’s military???

    Vince Flynn writes believable stories. I love Marcinko’s books too.

    Thanks for the post.