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		<title>By: Talking Turkey Over Health Care Reform : NO QUARTER Just To Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talking Turkey Over Health Care Reform : NO QUARTER Just To Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Surfered</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surfered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Mr. Krauthammer also repeatedly wrote in his columns that Saddam Hussein would give nuclear weapons he did not have to terrorists he did not have a collaborative relationship with. So, he&#039;s made some pretty big mistakes before.  Hopefully, no one will die unecessarily this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Mr. Krauthammer also repeatedly wrote in his columns that Saddam Hussein would give nuclear weapons he did not have to terrorists he did not have a collaborative relationship with. So, he&#8217;s made some pretty big mistakes before.  Hopefully, no one will die unecessarily this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/36980/talking-turkey-over-health-care-reform/#comment-1281855</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34624&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More subterfuge from Harry Reid&lt;/a&gt;

The Senate moved forward yesterday on debate of H.R. 3590, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes.

You read that right.  

The bill being used as the shell for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) first attempt at a government takeover of health care is in the form of H.R. 3590, an unrelated tax bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34624" rel="nofollow">More subterfuge from Harry Reid</a></p>
<p>The Senate moved forward yesterday on debate of H.R. 3590, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes.</p>
<p>You read that right.  </p>
<p>The bill being used as the shell for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) first attempt at a government takeover of health care is in the form of H.R. 3590, an unrelated tax bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Rev. The big money is in &quot;Defensive Medicine,&quot; ordering tests, procedures, consults and office visits whose intent is more to bolster the chart for potential litigation. Less time is spent with the patient while more time is spent with the chart to enhance documentation at the expense of patient care. It&#039;s a sad state of affairs to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Rev. The big money is in &#8220;Defensive Medicine,&#8221; ordering tests, procedures, consults and office visits whose intent is more to bolster the chart for potential litigation. Less time is spent with the patient while more time is spent with the chart to enhance documentation at the expense of patient care. It&#8217;s a sad state of affairs to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, most cases never make it to court because it is cheaper to pay them out and settle them than pay the legal fees to push them through the court system. Doctors are out of control once the suit is filed and lawyers take over. It doesn&#039;t matter whether they actually did anything wrong or not. Bean counters determine the outcomes. There could be caps, but what I think is to require attorneys to be bonded and if they lose their bond will pay the defense fees. This would distribute the cost of trying these cases somewhat off the doctors insurers and would let the insurers try the cases they could win without worrying about the cost of doing so. Also, bad attorneys would quickly lose their bonds and would be forced away from filing future suits. They could still practice other kinds of law, just not file tort cases if they can&#039;t get for example a 1M recovery bond. They make doctors keep malpractice, and drivers keep liability insurance. Soon we will face jail time for not having health insurance. Can&#039;t attorneys be just as responsible as the rest of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, most cases never make it to court because it is cheaper to pay them out and settle them than pay the legal fees to push them through the court system. Doctors are out of control once the suit is filed and lawyers take over. It doesn&#8217;t matter whether they actually did anything wrong or not. Bean counters determine the outcomes. There could be caps, but what I think is to require attorneys to be bonded and if they lose their bond will pay the defense fees. This would distribute the cost of trying these cases somewhat off the doctors insurers and would let the insurers try the cases they could win without worrying about the cost of doing so. Also, bad attorneys would quickly lose their bonds and would be forced away from filing future suits. They could still practice other kinds of law, just not file tort cases if they can&#8217;t get for example a 1M recovery bond. They make doctors keep malpractice, and drivers keep liability insurance. Soon we will face jail time for not having health insurance. Can&#8217;t attorneys be just as responsible as the rest of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Silence Dogood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silence Dogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They didn’t call him a liar. They said the information in his editorial was “totally inaccurate”. That’s very different matter from calling someone a liar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps if one is slicing an apple of truth into slices of ambiguity that is so.

“Totally inaccurate” is arguably just the polite and lawyerly way of calling someone a liar.

Please excuse some of us and our more guttural at times ways of expressing our heartfelt views. It should be noted someone&#039;s way of expressing does not necessarily change the core truth of a matter, even if the expression is distasteful or not fit for a courtroom.

Ironically, the court of American public opinion is far from behaving like a courtroom at all! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They didn’t call him a liar. They said the information in his editorial was “totally inaccurate”. That’s very different matter from calling someone a liar.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps if one is slicing an apple of truth into slices of ambiguity that is so.</p>
<p>“Totally inaccurate” is arguably just the polite and lawyerly way of calling someone a liar.</p>
<p>Please excuse some of us and our more guttural at times ways of expressing our heartfelt views. It should be noted someone&#8217;s way of expressing does not necessarily change the core truth of a matter, even if the expression is distasteful or not fit for a courtroom.</p>
<p>Ironically, the court of American public opinion is far from behaving like a courtroom at all! <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ziggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They &lt;strong&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt; call him a liar.  They said the information in his editorial was &quot;totally inaccurate&quot;.  That&#039;s very different matter from calling someone a liar.    

The White House page cites specific sections of the pending bill.  It provides a link to the document.  It also provides a link to the editorial.  

Apparently they aren&#039;t afraid of people reading the editorial, comparing what&#039;s said there with what&#039;s actually in the bill, and deciding for themselves how accurate Mr. Krauthammer&#039;s statements are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They <strong>didn&#8217;t</strong> call him a liar.  They said the information in his editorial was &#8220;totally inaccurate&#8221;.  That&#8217;s very different matter from calling someone a liar.    </p>
<p>The White House page cites specific sections of the pending bill.  It provides a link to the document.  It also provides a link to the editorial.  </p>
<p>Apparently they aren&#8217;t afraid of people reading the editorial, comparing what&#8217;s said there with what&#8217;s actually in the bill, and deciding for themselves how accurate Mr. Krauthammer&#8217;s statements are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackarooty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackarooty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amy,
I find it so interesting that you are agreeing more and more with Dr. Krauthammer as time goes on.  I find him brilliant and fascinating.  Like you I am agreeing with him more than I don&#039;t.

This article was in the NYT on 11/29/09 and I posted it on my fb page.  You&#039;ll appreciate it!
&lt;blockquote&gt;The lack of confidence in government has turned many older voters rightward. Younger voters have not followed. But even they will want results eventually.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/opinion/30douthat.html?_r=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amy,<br />
I find it so interesting that you are agreeing more and more with Dr. Krauthammer as time goes on.  I find him brilliant and fascinating.  Like you I am agreeing with him more than I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This article was in the NYT on 11/29/09 and I posted it on my fb page.  You&#8217;ll appreciate it!</p>
<blockquote><p>The lack of confidence in government has turned many older voters rightward. Younger voters have not followed. But even they will want results eventually.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/opinion/30douthat.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/opinion/30douthat.html?_r=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: lorac</title>
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		<dc:creator>lorac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRRA - is it synovisc (kind of a lubricant)?

If so, I think they do it once a week for three weeks, and if it&#039;s helpful, you can repeat it every six months.  I understand that most people don&#039;t feel the benefit until after the 3rd injection of the series (the first injection is a small amount, the second a larger amount, and the third the largest).  If it works, it kind of feels like a pad has miraculously been inserted into your knee, providing relief.  But it doesn&#039;t last....  hence the periodic repeat series...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRRA &#8211; is it synovisc (kind of a lubricant)?</p>
<p>If so, I think they do it once a week for three weeks, and if it&#8217;s helpful, you can repeat it every six months.  I understand that most people don&#8217;t feel the benefit until after the 3rd injection of the series (the first injection is a small amount, the second a larger amount, and the third the largest).  If it works, it kind of feels like a pad has miraculously been inserted into your knee, providing relief.  But it doesn&#8217;t last&#8230;.  hence the periodic repeat series&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very difficult for a lawyer to agree to take a &quot;frivolous lawsuit&quot;.  If it is frivolous, or unjustified, then it will never go anywhere and the lawyer will lose money on the case.  He/she has to front lots of money to properly conduct a malpractice case and if its not going to return a big enough verdict or settlement, they may not take even a justifiable malpractice case.  

Malpractice insurance companies often take the most expensive way out of the situation.  Rather than let a doctor settle, for example, they will insist on taking it to trial.  That is one part of this practice that needs to be heavily monitored and somehow changed.  

As a healthcare expert witness at one time, I hate to see damages capped because there truly are lifelong, serious damages that require money to deliver years of care.  But there must be some way to improve the education of nurses (I can say that) and to strengthen peer review among docs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very difficult for a lawyer to agree to take a &#8220;frivolous lawsuit&#8221;.  If it is frivolous, or unjustified, then it will never go anywhere and the lawyer will lose money on the case.  He/she has to front lots of money to properly conduct a malpractice case and if its not going to return a big enough verdict or settlement, they may not take even a justifiable malpractice case.  </p>
<p>Malpractice insurance companies often take the most expensive way out of the situation.  Rather than let a doctor settle, for example, they will insist on taking it to trial.  That is one part of this practice that needs to be heavily monitored and somehow changed.  </p>
<p>As a healthcare expert witness at one time, I hate to see damages capped because there truly are lifelong, serious damages that require money to deliver years of care.  But there must be some way to improve the education of nurses (I can say that) and to strengthen peer review among docs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are reports that the other reluctant democrats are upping their negotiated vote prices since Landrieu scored big. Instead of &quot;pay as you go&quot;, it&#039;s now payola.
Once the public figures out how much this turkey is going to gobble up, it will be too late!
When will the republicans have enough votes in Congress to revise or revoke it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are reports that the other reluctant democrats are upping their negotiated vote prices since Landrieu scored big. Instead of &#8220;pay as you go&#8221;, it&#8217;s now payola.<br />
Once the public figures out how much this turkey is going to gobble up, it will be too late!<br />
When will the republicans have enough votes in Congress to revise or revoke it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeed Chelsea is.  I&#039;ve been thinking abt that today, what a lovely young woman she has grown up to be, the loving, even adoring look on her face when her mom was talking, and how very, very lucky her fiance is that she said yes.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed Chelsea is.  I&#8217;ve been thinking abt that today, what a lovely young woman she has grown up to be, the loving, even adoring look on her face when her mom was talking, and how very, very lucky her fiance is that she said yes.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure one can equate a writing class with actually being an attorney, but I hear what you are saying abt the term, though frivolous litigation is a realty - it happens.  Whether it makes it to court or not is a different matter. To say that the only ones that APPEAR frivolous are the result of media hype seems to be a generality.  

I think I got us side tracked on this, though.  Krauthammer is talking abt the cost of additional tests and procedures required in order to stave off potential medical malpractice suits, if I am understanding him correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure one can equate a writing class with actually being an attorney, but I hear what you are saying abt the term, though frivolous litigation is a realty &#8211; it happens.  Whether it makes it to court or not is a different matter. To say that the only ones that APPEAR frivolous are the result of media hype seems to be a generality.  </p>
<p>I think I got us side tracked on this, though.  Krauthammer is talking abt the cost of additional tests and procedures required in order to stave off potential medical malpractice suits, if I am understanding him correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got that it was the ins. jerks who made you cry, and understandably.  Your poor husband!!  That is terrible that he is having to go through so much, especially since he is still healing from the transplant.  

And the permanent nerve damage - holy cow (I&#039;m using that in lieu of what words I could use).  Just breaks my heart for your husband, and you!

I&#039;m just shaking my head at not being able to switch ins., either.  Sheesh.

Wow, IALT, no wonder you wanted to go to a corner and cry!

Thanks - I appreciate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got that it was the ins. jerks who made you cry, and understandably.  Your poor husband!!  That is terrible that he is having to go through so much, especially since he is still healing from the transplant.  </p>
<p>And the permanent nerve damage &#8211; holy cow (I&#8217;m using that in lieu of what words I could use).  Just breaks my heart for your husband, and you!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just shaking my head at not being able to switch ins., either.  Sheesh.</p>
<p>Wow, IALT, no wonder you wanted to go to a corner and cry!</p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; I appreciate that.</p>
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		<title>By: tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRRA:  I&#039;m so tired of hearing that phrase--frivolous cases.  Orwellian Doublespeak.  Anyone in law knows that &quot;frivolous cases&quot; never see a day in the courtroom.  That&#039;s what briefs are all about.  Nowadays, judges are so swamped with work, if they can&#039;t identify a clear cause of action in the first two pages of a brief, it goes directly into the trash.  I&#039;ve been in legal writing classes where this subject is covered.  You don&#039;t get a case into court if you don&#039;t have a bona fide cause of action.

Spectacular cases have been twisted by the press into appearing frivolous, it&#039;s not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRRA:  I&#8217;m so tired of hearing that phrase&#8211;frivolous cases.  Orwellian Doublespeak.  Anyone in law knows that &#8220;frivolous cases&#8221; never see a day in the courtroom.  That&#8217;s what briefs are all about.  Nowadays, judges are so swamped with work, if they can&#8217;t identify a clear cause of action in the first two pages of a brief, it goes directly into the trash.  I&#8217;ve been in legal writing classes where this subject is covered.  You don&#8217;t get a case into court if you don&#8217;t have a bona fide cause of action.</p>
<p>Spectacular cases have been twisted by the press into appearing frivolous, it&#8217;s not true.</p>
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