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Where Al Qaeda And Health Care Collide

Who would have guessed there would be a connection between the current Health Care debate, and what’s missing from it, and al Qaeda? Not me, until I read this article recently, Let America Have The Smallpox and Anthrax Vaccines. Why is this important? Aren’t we done with that whole smallpox thing? And Anthrax – wasn’t that just a scare up on Capitol Hill?

Turns out, we should be mighty concerned:

“I sleep like a baby,” says U.S. Air Force Colonel Randy Larsen (Ret). “Every three hours, I wake up screaming.”

It’s little surprise that Larsen has such trouble getting shuteye. As executive director of the Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism, Larsen spends his days and many nights visualizing mushroom clouds over U.S. cities and emergency rooms clogged with victims of biological attacks. Among his many solutions to America’s WMD challenges, this may be the easiest: Let Americans get immunized against smallpox and anthrax.

“Smallpox and anthrax are our two biggest biological threats,” Larsen tells journalists gathered here on November 16 by the Heritage Foundation. “Smallpox and anthrax are the only biological threats for which we have FDA-approved vaccines. We have enough smallpox vaccines for every American, but not enough anthrax vaccines even for 10 percent of our population. Once we increase that supply, we can take these two risks off the table.”


Let’s stop there – why is there only sufficient vaccinations for 10% of the population for a deadly biological threat? Why are we not getting them? Why are they not discussing this as a critical component of ANY health care reform? Just wondering. And for good reason:

Voluntarily immunizing Americans against these two diseases would deter terrorists from plotting such attacks. Even vaccinating some Americans would create “herd immunity,” whereby those who stay healthy would impede an epidemic’s progress, much as firebreaks retard advancing infernos.

Larsen’s commission offered this sobering conclusion last December: “Unless the world community acts decisively and with great urgency, it is more likely than not that a weapon of mass destruction will be used in a terrorist attack somewhere in the world by the end of 2013.”

Holy crapoli – that is a most sobering assessment. It gets worse: In an October 21 progress report, this bipartisan board cautioned that “a one- to two-kilogram release of anthrax spores from a crop duster plane could kill more Americans than died in World War II,” specifically, 380,000 (emphasis mine). “Clean up and other economic costs could exceed $1.8 trillion.” “Dark Winter,” a June 2001 high-level simulation exercise, assumed that a covert smallpox attack would infect 3.3 million Americans, one-third fatally.

A biological attack’s psychological impact would be incalculable, especially if healthy Americans saw their smallpox-infected neighbors as contagious “enemies” to be shunned.

That is a staggering number – more people could be killed by a relatively small amount of anthrax than died in WWII. And the idea that smallpox-infected people would be shunned, and viewed as “enemies” is a threat I can see played out in my mind’s eye, unfolding like a Hollywood movie.

There is more, and this will make you sit up straight in your chair:

America’s Islamofascist enemies have stayed busy in this sphere.

“I was directly in charge…[of] the Cell for the Production of Biological Weapons, such as anthrax,” Khalid Sheik Mohammed told a Guantanamo military tribunal on March 10, 2007. KSM was 9/11’s chief architect and al-Qaeda’s self-described “Military Operational Commander.”

The Commission’s crop-duster scenario was conceived after Americans discovered two Afghan anthrax laboratories. “The 9/11 Commission Report” says Jemaah Islamiah agent Yazid Sufaat “would spend several months attempting to cultivate anthrax for al Qaeda in a laboratory he helped set up near the Kandahar airport.”

Interestingly enough, Sufaat was captured thanks to information that American interrogators gleaned after waterboarding KSM. Had America not dampened KSM’s nose, US soldiers or civilians already might have had Sufaat’s anthrax up their nostrils.

“Four pounds of anthrax…carried by a fighter through tunnels from Mexico into the US, are guaranteed to kill 330,000 Americans within a single hour,” laughed Kuwaiti professor and terrorist sympathizer Abdallah Al-Nafisi in a speech broadcast February 2 on Al-Jazeera and translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute. “One person, with the courage to carry four pounds of anthrax, will go to the White House lawn, and will spread this ‘confetti’ all over them, and then will do these cries of joy. It will turn into a real ‘celebration.’”

Four pounds – smaller than a regular size bag of flour – is all it would take to kill 350,000 Americans. It boggles the mind, or at least, mine.

Oh, and yes – THAT KSM. The one who is being provided a civilian trial courtesy of Eric Holder and Barack Obama (h/t to SFIndie for highlighting that important aspect).

With our current border control issues, I think we can all see how this kind of attack could happen. Especially when I tell you that the Obama Administration, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to CUT the number of border patrol agents, by a total of 384. I thought that was ridiculous when it was just a matter of the current stream of illegal immigrants getting into our country as is, much less when the specter is raised of an Anthrax-bearing al Qaeda terrorist is coming through the tunnels.

There are, of course, issues with widespread vaccinations:

Today’s dilatory federal rollout of swine flu shots offers little confidence that government can deliver smallpox and anthrax inoculations with speed and tranquility, especially after a shocking attack turbocharged public anxiety.

Instead, these vaccines should reach thousands of hospitals, clinics, and doctors’ offices now. Americans calmly could request them during routine medical visits, rather than overwhelm government agencies amid widespread panic after thousands of citizens have fallen ill — or worse.

Al-Qaeda and other vicious killers surely have a “To Do” list of horrors they would love to hurl at us infidels. Let’s deny them at least these two potential murder weapons.

Mr. Murdock, a New York-based commentator to HUMAN EVENTS, is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.

I don’t know about you, but this scares the bejesus out of me. Our borders are already porous, through no fault of the border control guards – there are simply too few of them, and fewer now, thanks to Obama. I cannot even IMAGINE the logic – or lack thereof – that went into that decision, but this very real scenario, by a respected member of the Intelligence Community, should give us all pause.

There is a solution, though, and a relatively painless one at that. Vaccinations would solve the immediate problem, and minimize the potential threat. The time is not soon enough, especially if an attack of Anthrax is imminent. Even still, better to begin now than wait until it is too late.

Now, about those border guards…

  • Tricia

    Yikes!!!!

  • Eastan McNeal

    Yikes, indeed. Maybe we would retaliate by dumping cases of Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer on training camps in the Special-interest countries that export individuals who wish to bring harm to the United States through acts of terrorism, such as you described, or worse, joining ACORN in mass numbers and launching a new mass destructive offensive on the few remaining retail lenders by demanding their share of the wealth.

    Rample and OT, Amy, but sort of close. I just saw this in my inbox:

    I don’t understand why the White House is so upset about the two party crashers at Barack Obama’s steak dinner the other night.

    Is it really appropriate and politically correct to call them party crashers just because they trespassed on Mr. Obama? Does that make them criminals? Isn’t that discrimination? Shouldn’t they be rewarded for such bold and brave behavior? Maybe they were just trying to feed their family?
    I would suggest that it’s more appropriate to call them “undocumented guests.”

    Just because they weren’t officially invited doesn’t mean they should be treated like criminals. Maybe they should get free health care, free housing, free legal services and free White House green cards so next time they can enter legally. And they should be able to bring all of their relatives and family members, too.

    How can Mr. Obama be mad at them just because they crossed over some arbitrary man-made border? They were there only to do the things that regularly invited guests didn’t want to do. (Like hang out with Joe Biden.)

    How can the White House punish these poor oppressed undocumented visitors?

    Let ‘em in and I’m sure Joe Biden will get them their shots.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    I know, right? Oh, and not that I am in favor of waterboarding, but I gotta say, I am glad they caught the guy who was planning on unleashing that Anthrax hell on us…

  • Bronwyn’s Harbor

    Amy, thank you — so much — for this frightening report. I am chilled to the bones reading this. Literally.

    Our CDC must be proactive and get those vaccinations going. God almighty.

  • Docelder

    Or is bleached hair and implants all the tickets anybody needs now to get a free pass to the White House? Because Biden sure looked in pictures like he was having a good time with the female crasher.

  • Kim

    Oh my heavens, Amy, this is very frightening. Thank you so much for posting about this. I’d have never known about it otherwise.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Thanks – I swear, my jaw abt hit the floor when I was reading this yesterday in my local paper. They changed the headline, maybe because talk of vaccines isn’t the most exciting thing in the world. Perhaps people are sick of hearing abt H1N1, or something.

    It sounds remarkably easy for this to happen, too. Yeah – this is pretty shocking all in all.

    And Doc, you’re right – Biden seemed all too happy to hang out with the blonde woman…

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    I can’t help but feel that our gov’t has been derelict in their duty by not being more proactive abt this, and truly insuring the safety of the citizens from this “clear and present danger.”

    And thanks, BH – I appreciate it!

  • Peggy Sue

    Wow, Amy. I visited the Mutter Museum in Philly over the holiday. It’s connected to the University of Pa Physicians and Surgeons Bldg and features specimens of diseases you rarely see anymore, ie., smallpox infected limbs, TB, syphillis, a vast array of anomalies.

    Smallpox? Nasty, nasty, nasty. And here I remember chicken pox being bad. Not even in the neighborhood!

    This would a nightmare. My son saw anthrax while living in Africa, another frightful infection.

    Needless to say, we’re living in dangerous times.

  • http://www.syd4.blogspot.com SYD

    You bring up a good point here, Amy. And this is what has always concerned me about the CDC willy-nilly recommending vaccines for every flu and childhood illness that comes down the pike. Folks start to think it’s a pharmaceutical company gouging hoax. And in some cases… I believe it is….

    But as sure as we desensitize the population to calls for vaccination by inundating them year after year after year… we are gonna have a REAL threat on our hands. Like Small Pox or Anthrax. And folks will ignore warnings.

    A serious matter indeed.

  • http://www.syd4.blogspot.com SYD

    As per my comment above…

    When we have doctors and pharmaceutical companies, on television, issuing dire warnings about “deaths from Chicken Pox” (boo) … they are doing us all a disservice.

    Because if the public perceives Chicken Pox on the same plane as Small Pox…. they will be in for one hell of a shock when the latter re-rears it’s ugly head.

    Don’t get me wrong. There can be deaths from Chicken Pox. But typically not in folks with healthy immune systems.

    Small Pox kills ‘em all. Or dang near.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    That is an excellent point, SYD – thank you.

    Peggy Sue, that must have been quite the experience. I remember getting the smallpox vaccine growing up. I gather they don’t do that anymore?

  • Silence Dogood

    Congress:

    “Vacines? We don’t need no stinkin’ vacines!”

    Yeah, because you’t afford them, thanks to all the pork such as studying the effects of acid rain on bird nests in Idaho.

  • Peggy Sue

    You’re so right, SYD. Obviously, the arm I saw covered with smallpox blisters was from a patient who died of the disease. I had chickenpox as a kid and remember feeling [and looking] pretty awful. But these blisters were three times the size of chickenpox and nasty. Apparently, there are 4 types of smallpox, the flat and hemorrhagic being the most fatal.

    But we’ve seen people panic with the recent H1N1 flu. It’s almost unimaginable what a smallpox outbreak would do.

    Scary times!

  • Patrick Henry

    Amy….you put up a good article..combined with excellent research and comments…I share your concern..Another One of the many important issues facing the people of the United States..Both as a Real Time thread..and as a Issue that can create hugh Problems..

    We, The people of the .United States,face many Threats and challenges..These are Dangous Time..with dangerous Threats and Events..

    We are at WAR..with multiple enemys who hate us..and want to destroy us as much as they want to DESTRY Israel..

    In the meanwhile, they will continue to Attack anyway they can..Plot more attacks..use all methods, and tear Americas foundantion apart Brick by Brick until she Crumbles..Like the Twin Towers did..

    This is NOT the Time for us to have poor leadership from within..more Bureauratic Stupidity..or more Left wing or Right Wing game Playing..

    We are at WAR..That is the Commander in Chiefs FIRST Priority..The second is perserve Our Economy and Provide both DOMESTIC and International Security.

    Right now…Our Government ..and its handlers are FAILING Us..

  • Cathy in Ks.

    Reading about small-pox being used as a method of biological warfare made me think about the native American tribes in this country prior to European explorer and settlers coming here. Native Americans had no immunity to smallpox and were nearly wiped out in some parts of this country by smallpox outbreaks. Today there are many of us who probably have no immunity to smallpox because (thank goodness) the disease has been eradicated for us. But because the disease is highly contagious and many of us have no immunity to this dreaded disease, it could be as devastating to us as it was to the earlier native peoples on this continent.

  • Cathy in Ks.

    Sorry I meant to say in my previous comment that native Americans contracted smallpox after the European explorers and settlers came to the New World. Prior to European exploration and settlement, the native Americans were small-pox free. They were also free of a lot of other highly infectious dreaded diseases.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    I knew what you meant, Cathy. Your comment is an excellent reminder of that part of our history, and should be a lesson for us now.

    Thanks, Patrick Henry – you are so right abt us not having adequate leadership to deal with these very real life and death issues facing us.

  • Peggy Sue

    You know come to think of it, Amy, I do remember that vaccination [about a million years ago]. You could elect to have it on the arm or thigh. And it left a “huge” scar. But my kids didn’t get them [born between the mid-70s to mid-80s].

    Time flies when you’re having fun!!

    And yes, the museum was grisly but fascinating. I love that sort of stuff!

  • candymarl

    Well here we go again. Al Qaeda (AQ) will get us with anthrax and small pox. Remember the GWB administration and anthrax? Odd how they never found out who actually did it.

    What the heck has happened to we Americans? We piss our pants every time AQ and what they could do is mentioned.

    If we could hold off various and sundry dictatorships, some who had nuclear weapons, why is AQ running our lives?

    We’ve gone from fear of nuclear war and Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) to fear of AQ. Kind of sad if you ask me.

    Nukes could kill far more for far longer than a disease. What’s the half-life of lethal radiation? All diseases run their course and a certain part of the population will have natural immunity.

    Funny how our governments are always scaring us with one thing or another. Yet someone always makes money from it.

    Be prepared and be vigilant? Sure. Be scared? sounds like that’s the objective.

  • Silence Dogood

    you’t afford

    should read

    you can’t afford

  • Silence Dogood

    We, The people of the .United States,face many Threats and challenges..These are Dangous Time..with dangerous Threats and Events..

    We are at WAR..with multiple enemys who hate us..and want to destroy us as much as they want to DESTRY Israel..

    Agreed. It profoundly saddens me we don’t have a centrist in the Oval Office — only they could unite the country to face these challenges head on.

  • candymarl

    I worked for the government. I know how things work. One minute we’ve defeated AQ and the next minute we’re afraid of them.

    We have an awesome military and state of the art defenses. Yet AQ is gonna get us?

    How many troops does it take to take out AQ? As many as our government is willing to throw at them apparently.

    I love my country and have faith in my fellow Americans. We can do this.

    Remember there were those who said we couldn’t defeat the British. A sovereign Nation? Never happen.

    There were those who said slavery would always be a part of the American system.

    There were those who said the Civil Rights Movement was doomed.

    For all of our flaws we managed to survive these things.

    If AQ is such a threat then let us turn loose our SEALS, CIA operatives, and military intelligence folks to take them out. We managed to defeat the Axis powers. We managed to survive the USSR and allies. AQ is better than all of those combined? Please. Not all wars are won by conventional means. AQ is non-conventional? Like we don’t know how to deal with that. We do.

    Oh yeah biological warfare wasn’t created by AQ.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    In this case, the gov’t hasn’t done enough, IMO. If protecting Americans against an Anthrax or Smallpox attack is as easy as a vaccination, why not do as suggested in the article – have volunteers get them. That’s preparation and vigilance, not fear mongering.

    And it isn’t AQ per se – it is a threat that can come from any group that might wish to do us, or others in the world, harm.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Um, okay – never said it was, very much aware that AQ didn’t create biological warfare, and perhaps you didn’t see my other response to you.

    Suffice it to say, not fear mongering, clear and easy remedy available to deal with a plausible, even possible threat according to a respected member of the Intel Community, not demeaning our military in any way shape or form (don’t know WHERE that came from), and not claiming AQ is better than all these groups combined.

    They ARE a threat – no doubt abt it. Hence why we are in Afghanistan and dealing with Pakistan as well, so no need to dismiss them out of hand. And why some are working hard to make sure the scenario described above by a member of AQ does not become a reality.

  • NomNomNom

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/0401/02-ask.html
    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-03-anthrax-ivins_N.htm
    the anthrax came from a US lab, USAMRIID, at Fort Detrick: we were the terrorists.
    when it became clear that it was not sourced from out of the country, the FBI tried to pin the attacks on Bruce Ivins, a senior biodefense researcher at Fort Detrick’s biological defense laboratory, who conveniently wound up dead of purported suicide.

    Vaccinating 300+ million people for smallpox and anthrax would be a monumental task, and it would not be once, but many times: the smallpox vaccine provides a high immunity for only 3-5 years and has only a 95% efficacy. Supposedly, there is more immunity upon repetition, but it has been many decades since it was deployed. Today it is made from the live vaccinia virus not actual smallpox, so it could not give anyone smallpox, but certainly in a population as large as 300 million, there would be hundreds if not thousands with adverse reactions, including death. Because the new attenuated smallpox vaccines must be made in cell cultures, one imagines there is also some risk of genetic instability and the possibility of recombination with other viral sequences: one imagines these risks are quite low, but 300 million people is a lot of vaccine.
    http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/facts.asp
    It would be even harder to vaccinate everyone against anthrax: it requires 6 injections spaced out over a year and a half (“three subcutaneous injections at 0, 2, and 4 weeks, and three booster vaccinations at 6, 12, and 18 months. To maintain immunity, the manufacturer recommends an annual booster injection.”) It is made from a “cell-free filtrate of B. anthracis culture that contains no dead or live bacteria”, so it would not be able to cause anthrax. However, its efficacy is estimated from animal trials and is therefore unknown in humans.
    Nor has our population ever been mass vaccinated against anthrax: no one could possibly know what the possible side effects are for such a large quantity of people. However there is one large group of persons in whom it was used: US soldiers: the anthrax vaccination is proposed as the cause, or partial cause, of Gulf War syndrome (imo the evidence is overwhelming, but one can read about it in many publications and make up one’s own mind). Also, the only licensed vaccine contains formaldehyde and aluminum, and probably many people would find it objectionable to use upon their children as well.
    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr4915a1.htm

  • NomNomNom

    “They ARE a threat – no doubt abt it. Hence why we are in Afghanistan and dealing with Pakistan as well, so no need to dismiss them out of hand.”
    I hope this does not sound too trollish :( , but this is circular reasoning.
    I do not accept that AQ presents a significant enough threat that we need to be in either Afghanistan or Pakistan.

  • Silence Dogood

    Not trollish at all. The trolls now have to claim we need to be in Afghanistan, at least for a while longer. LMAO. Ziggy will soon appear with her/his spin, slice and dice circus tightrope act.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    The article clearly said not everyone would have to be vaccinated – the “herd” event would be sufficient to prevent widespread fatalities.

    Yes, it would be a monumental undertaking, but I definitely recall getting the smallpox vaccine at school – am pretty sure they are doing that now for H1N1, as well as making it available at drugstores, grocery stores, doctor’s offices, etc. What would be the difference?

    And if we are talking abt a biological attack that could easily kill hundreds of thousands of people with a small amt, wouldn’t it be worth it?? As worth it as H1N1?

    Maybe I missed something, but, I didn’t see in the effects of the vaccine for Anthrax as a proposed cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Could you please provide the exact quote from the CDC citation above? Thanks.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    We went to Afghanistan because of AQ did we not? And now they have also taken up residence in Pakistan, correct? So, where is the “circular logic”? You don’t have to accept it, Nom, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t accurate.

    They DO exist – I don’t quite get the desire to try to minimize any threat from AQ. If not here, then elsewhere – we are not the only country that has been targeted by them, after all.

  • NomNomNom

    aggh, Spaminated, sorry RRRA, it had a few links

  • Patrick Henry

    I agree with your point Amy..Afghanistan is where the Islamic jihaddists set up thier HQ and operations..Bin Laden came over from Pakistan and hooked up with the like minded Taliban Islamic Jihaddists.

    .That area is Ground Zero..and Bush and cheney should have gotten the job done there long ago..Now the United States is bearing 70% of the Costs and effort there..

    Bush and Cheney destroyed both U.N. and International resolve and Support..this is the time to get all that Back ..with more international support..

    because these JiHaddist
    have hit other international targets in Europe and else where..and are in place and prepared to do that again in other countrys.

    .They have backed off so those nations will forget about that and quit supporting the United States in Afghnistan ..

    Right now the Islamic Jihaddists are quite happy to blow up One or two Humvees a week..keep the funerals going at Fort Lewis..month after month…and wait until they can win back Afghanistan which is weak and corrupt and has No Military..

    Then the Taliban and Quaeda forces can put New pressure on Pakistan..with the Forces they have built up there over the last eight years thnaks to the Bush Cheney policy..A Policy which really let Obama get away and lose the War in Afghanistan ..

    ` A Lose that will be laid in Obama and puts him in the position he is in now..causing his Tight rope dance..and isprobably the ONLY reason for relunctantly agreeing to adding more troops there for now..

    In some ways U.S. Policy and position Has come Full Circle..Now Its Obama’s turn..Without the UN Support..

  • NomNomNom

    You have as a premise that because we are in Afghanistan this proves there must have been a threat: this is not a rational argument: we might be there for many reasons. While it’s possible you are correct, you have not proven this by your argument. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

    “We went to Afghanistan because of AQ did we not?”
    RRRA, I do not believe this.
    I believe we went because it makes a lot of money for oligarchs.
    bin Laden may have been in Afghanistan, but by our dear leaders own accounts, planning for 9/11 also occurred in Germany and the United States: yet we did not invade Germany or drop bombs on American civilians.
    The freaking Hubble can see into galaxies billions of miles away, yet we cannot find a training camp here on earth? I don’t think so.
    I believe the US government lied, lied, and lied some more about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and Pakistan. I can argue my point of view if one desires, but I am assuming no one wants a referendum opened on the topic, lol.

  • Cathy in Ks.

    Rev. Amy, I too recall getting the smallpox vaccination at school when I was in elementary school. I agree that it should not be that difficult to get the vaccinations to some people. When one thinks of the alternative, the old adage “an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure” seems to be more than appropriate in this instance.

  • NomNomNom

    lol, I really loved that beer pong image :lol:

  • Patrick Henry

    For Once..It would be nice if someone in Our Government just told it to the American people like it Really is..using Maps and charts..

    #1….This is what the situation is around Afghanistan…and over in Pakistan..The taliban are here and here..Quadea is up here..and this is what Pakistan is doing in thier region..(since everyone over there knows anyhow..)

    #2. these are the nations that still support the United States against the Taliban and bin Laden..

    #3. These are the nations /states working Against the United States and and support the taliban..Bin Laden..Iran and N. Korea..

    #4.. The Reasons WHY other nations are undermining the United states..and what thier strategic and idelogical reasons are..

    #5. The consequences of a withdrawl of a united states Military Presence from Iraq..afghanistan and the Gulf region..and what likely scenarios will then develope all over the middle east if we do a Complete whithdrawl from the gulf region..

    #6.. What support or lack of support we are getting from all the other Arab..Muslim Countrys all over the Middle East and what will be the likely result of further Victorys and positions of Power for the islamic Ji Haddists..and how fragile this situation is..

    #7..Don’t treat the American people like Children and stop hiding information that has been gathered from resources paid for and provided by the American people..

    Since..Everyone working the government and military works for the American People..and we have a RIGHT to know the TRUTH..Since WE pay the bills and provide all the resources..

    OUR governments handlers have hidden too much Truth from Us..and have mishandled the resouces we give them..

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  • Patrick Henry

    They hve decided that THEY are the government..and that we are a nation OF..BY and FOR The Politician and Bureaucrat..and ANYONE who can BUY them..

  • TeakWoodKite

    Rev. Amy. You are right to be, mmmm what thats the word? Concerned isn’t the right word.

    I see it against the back drop of the Federal and State response to New Orleans. That is the base line one can expect. Judged against that backdrop AND the “virtual” border defenses it is a very viable task.
    We have HLS drones cruising the border regions but tunnels found in the last 5 years show a determination an designs similar to those found in So. Lebanon. Drug Cartels and a Hezbolla proxy bad mix.

  • Onofre’s arm

    #8. That the Taliban gets it’s funding from the House of Saud, the same beasts that Obama bowed to.

  • NomNomNom

    spam spam spam spam
    spam spam spam spam…

  • NomNomNom

    resending: hope it works this time…
    I was also vaccinated against smallpox as a child at school: this was when parents did not routinely go to court to prevent little junior from getting vaccinated. Today it’s different: many people believe that autism is linked to childhood vaccinations–and for some pretty compelling reasons, jmo. Autism is now being diagnosed (rightly or wrongly) at a rate of about 1/100 kids.
    Trying to add another vaccination to the laundry list might be a harder sell than one imagines. Trying to find the money for it is another reason. Perhaps it isn’t politic to say so, but I am completely uninterested in funding these campaigns: the government has enough of my money.

    The article did talk about the herd event; but that is a theory, it is not a fact; I do not personally find it convincing.

    Anthrax vaccine as a possible cause or partial cause of GWS is not in that article, but there is widespread information about it:
    http://www.anthraxvaccine.org/AnthraxGWS.htm
    http://www.autoimmune.com/GWSGen.html
    http://www.whale.to/a/anthrax78.html
    http://www.immed.org/illness/gulfwar_illness_research.html [this one has a variety of links, eg: "Anthrax Vaccine: Controversy Over Safety And Efficacy, Antimicrobics and Infectious Disease Newsletter (Elsevier Science) 2000; 18(1):1-6 rtf doc"]

    There is also a good deal of evidence for depleted uranium being part of/the cause.
    there are some links for this topic at the 4th url above.
    If one googles gulf war syndrome anthrax vaccine or depleted uranium one will find more articles than one would ever want to read, if these don’t have enough information
    :)

  • NomNomNom

    nope, re-Spaminated, sorry.

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    I assumed that it was understood that bin Laden and Al Qaeda were based in Afghanistan after 9/11, so my mistake for making that assumption.

  • Silence Dogood

    I recall more than 2-3 links and the Spam Monster strikes. I also recall it helps if links are hyperlinked, as such:

    <a href=”http://www.noquarterusa.net/”>NO QUARTER</a>

  • http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Excellent point there, OA.

    And Patrick Henry, thank you for the great comments and the list above. Your thoughtful responses are much appreciated.

    Thanks, Teak – yes, it is disconcerting that so little of one biological agent can have such devastating effects, and can be so easily dispersed.

  • Silence Dogood

    3Xnom is making a valid point about a possible gargantuan scam. The problem is, even if true, its easy for those in power to deny and continue on to the next malfeasance for profit and power.

  • Sassy

    Good work Amy!
    This post points out the larger concept of terrorism that must give those like Col. Larsen night sweats!
    With the exception of Osama, who is/was deemed to be highly intelligent, most of the operatives have used basic, crude methods.
    I abhor violence and my heart breaks that our troops are in hell-holes like Afghanistan. However, they are our first line of defense against the seeds of this epidemic.
    All it will take is one radical genius to carry out a much deadlier attack, AND live to train others!

  • Docelder

    Google’e satellites can give us a street level view of nearly every house in the US for free… but the military spy satellites can’t find fires coming out of caves in the middle of the desert? And nobody can trace kidney dialysis machines or the supplies for them in Afghanistan or Pakistan? In all these years?

  • Docelder

    The trolls now have to claim we need to be in Afghanistan, at least for a while longer.

    They will be “supply siders” once Obama goes that way. It won’t be long now before the great chameleon is channeling Reagan. Notice the new emphasis on “jobs”. It is magical how socialists suddenly discover that people with jobs actually pay the taxes that fund Utopia. Magical like unicorns.

  • Silence Dogood

    It is magical how socialists suddenly discover that people with jobs actually pay the taxes that fund Utopia. Magical like unicorns.

    Bravisimo!

    Opampers did ship me my historic autographed pink unicorn. And he even built a shed for her with tangerine trees and marmalade skies!

    Seriously, I don’t have a problem with nations that BY CHOICE go the socialist route. What I do have a problem with is scam elections of socialists who try via stealth to transform our way of being. !@#$ that!

    You can’t build utopia with wood from the devil’s lumberyard!

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Yep – that’s what did it – the links!

    I understand information is out there, it was the particular connection between the CDC citation you provided and the claim abt Anthrax vaccinations, implying the CDC article contained that info. Thanks for the clarification.

  • NomNomNom

    I specifically said: “However…yada yada… (imo the evidence is overwhelming, but one can read about it in many publications and make up one’s own mind“).
    I was trying to avoid link failure, and thought my intent was clear to distinguish that topic. sorry if it was not clear.

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