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THE TITLE BOUT

Don Fowler, the former head of the DNC sent a letter to Democratic leaders and major contributors this week urging party unity. 

Intended to get resistant Hillary supporters on board, the unity letter is likely to produce the opposite effect.  The letter repeatedly stated, “Barack Obama won. It’s over!”   In other words, “Get over it,” or as an astute Clinton supporter put it, “Get in line, it’s not your time.”   Mr. Fowler chided Hillary supporters, “I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with the people who continue to carp, complain and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support.”  

The paternalistic nature of this statement and the implication that the issues raised by Hillary supporters are trivial is troubling.  “It’s time to act in a mature fashion,” Fowler implored. 

Demographics will prove that if Hillary supporters are anything, they are mature.  Maybe there is wisdom in old age since they did not select Obama.

To illustrate that Clinton supporters are sore losers, Fowler compared the Democratic Primary to men’s basketball and men’s tennis.  Attempting to appeal to the broadest base of Hillary’s supporters, women, by comparing the primary to men’s sports illustrates a continuing insensitivity to women and women’s issues by the DNC.  In fact the DNC, the party of the people, has never had a female chair.   

If sports were the metaphor of choice, the Democratic Primary is more like boxing than tennis or basketball.  One could equate the primary to the World Heavyweight Boxing Championship.  The two fighters in the ring, Senator’s Clinton and Obama, went the distance, 15 rounds, or in this case 52 primaries, but neither candidate scored a knockout blow. 

The fight will be decided by decision. The judges in this fight are the superdelegates and they will announce their decision at the Democratic Convention. There is one caveat however. These superdelegates are not impartial and both a carrot and a stick have been used to get them to declare for Obama. 

Many superdelegates have had large sums of money donated to their campaigns by Barack Obama under the guise of the Hope Fund or the Hope Pac.  Others have received warnings that the DNC will not support their next campaign if they do not support Obama and still others have had death threats from the African American community.
  
The referee in this title bout, the person entrusted by the people to ensure a fair fight is Howard Dean, Chairman of the DNC. 

Dean stood silently by as Dodd, Kennedy and Kerry called for Clinton to throw in the towel early in the contest.  He was mute when the main stream media called Hillary a bitch or said she should be taken out behind the barn. 

Dean did not enforce with the full authority of his office to ensure a fair shot at the title for both candidates.  Dean turned his back on the fight while Obama threw numerous sucker punches in the early rounds of the bout. 

Obama won 93% (13 out of 14) of the caucuses and only 46% (18 out of 39) of the primaries.  It is impossible to explain the disparity in primary vs. caucus results due to superior organization or demographics alone.  

Dean and the DNC turned a blind eye to the fraud, busing and data manipulation by Camp Obama at the caucuses.  Not only did Dean not investigate voter fraud, suppression and intimidation, he further engineered Obama’s nomination by giving the Florida delegates, a state where Clinton had a commanding lead, half a vote each.  In Michigan Dean orchestrated the decision that gave Obama delegates for punches Clinton landed and gave Obama credit for votes logged as undecided.  When Clinton Camp tried to raise some of these concerns they were labeled whiners.

The bout is not over until the judges officially announce their scoring of the fight in Denver in August. The DNC wants to deny Hillary’s name being put in nomination and to prohibit a state roll call that reflected the results of the primary.  The DNC wants t he judges, in this case the state delegations and the superdelegates, to declare that all votes went to Obama.  But there was no knock out blow.   

In fact, based on the results in the swing states, the primary states, the blue states, the largest states, and by winning the popular vote, Hillary Clinton won the fight by decision.  The referee can hold Senator Obama’s arm up in the center of the ring, but everyone watching the primary knows who won.  If a football game is decided by an unfair penalty, a soccer game lost by an undeserved red card, a title match lost by a sucker punch, fans typically become embittered and resentful.  

Senator Clinton was the first significant female candidate to run for the presidency and her nomination was stolen by a corrupt party.  No letter chiding Clinton’s supporters is going to change that.  Red Sox fans will never become Yankee fans, and Clinton supporters are not coming home.

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  • DancingOpossum

    Also, when the Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, nobody started screaming that Patriots fans now had to “be mature” and throw their full support behind the Giants. Nobody told the Patriots to drop out of football and help the Giants win another Super Bowl. Nobody even told them to “get over it.”

    DNC, your analogy: epic fail. Ditto your patronizing tone.

    • Dawnelle

      It looks like even the FRENCH Press are paying attention to PUMA!

      WILL BOWER being interviewed by the FRENCH PRESS

      who would have ever imagined! Mon Dieu!

      lol

      • Arabella Trefoil

        That’s great news. I’ll bet the French pronounce “PUMA” so that it sounds sexy and chic.

        • Dawnelle

          it sounded that way!

          oh this is a month old btw (almost)
          I just found it though.

        • clik

          It’s pronounced the same way in English, French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese. (POO-MA)

          Puma

          • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

            And Hungarian.
            PUMA!

        • mahaska

          Yeah, but the accents will make it sound nicer.

      • JoseyJ
      • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

        ABSOLUTE PROOF OF A FIXED PRIMARY ELECTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Important new development uncovered by a Hillary Loyalist Now For McCain.
        In early February Don went on record describing the Democratic Party process and the way the superdelegates roles should be played out. Now he writes a letter demanding we back Obama.
        Read the whole story and watch the video you will become all the more determined to PUMATIZE the NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/absoluteproofofafixedprimaryelection.aspx

        • Dan

          No matter what you say, if you use SHOUTING caps and 20 !’s, I immediately hate you. Try following normal conversational rules and people might pay more attention to you.

          • wry

            You hate someone if they use too many exclamation points or capital letters? That’s weird.

            I know it’s “considered” shouting, but it’s not literally shouting. Shouldn’t you lighten up a little?

            That’s the way people respond to each other at Huff Po…not here.

            • Dawnelle

              I know I get VERY EXCITED sometimes!

              And other times I’m just too tired and may hit the caps key and I”m in the middle of something and thing getting it out there is better than correcting

              (I’m hyper too) lol and I do LOL often!

              so bet it

              • Dawnelle

                see

                many typos above

              • mahaska

                Me too. and combined with very bad typing, not so good.
                get over it, Dan.

                • mahaska

                  DAN, DAN, OVER HERE DAN!!!!!!!

          • Phoenix

            OH, YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME, DAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • Idiocracy08

              HEY…THE CONVERSATIONAL RULZ IS THE CONVERSATIONAL RULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • mahaska

            Dan, Dan ,DAN. When you’re not speaking to someone, but writing, what would you suggest for emphasis? You do know we can’t see you, don’t you?

            • workingclass artist

              DAN…IS….HARD….OF….HEARING….TURN…DOWN…THE….CARTOON….DAN….SO…YOU…CAN….HATE…ME….PROPERLY…..WITH….FULL…
              FRONTAL….HATE…..THANKS…..DAN…..

    • http://www.cafepress.com/flyingmonkeyinc/5767556 NObamaNoHow

      Actually, that would make a great SNL sketch. of course, afterward we’d have a whole week of The [Humorless] One’s surrogates buzzing around telling us that laughter is divisive and distracting.

    • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

      ATTENTION FLORIDA WEXLER IS A FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      The question I ask all Floridians is how and why would a Democratic House of Representative want to consider you a ½ a person translated into a ½ a vote at the Convention in Denver? Hillary Loyalist witnessed the most shocking and damning eveidence as to why he sold his soul to the Liberal Senator Obama. Newsflash Wexler is not a Floridian. Wexler does not own a house in the state of Florida.

      READ THE WHOLE STORY AND DEMAND HE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
      http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/attentionfloridawexlerisafake.aspx

      • Dan

        Hi Val, is your ! key stuck perhaps?

        • Buzz Latte

          eff off Dan and get a sense of possibility.

          No one elected you the blogger nazi. Or are you just practicing for the Obama regime?

          Your posts have been more annoying than an over abundance of exclamation marks.

          • Clinton Fan

            When they complain about your typing, you’ve won the argument!

        • buckwheat

          shut up dan, in other words close yer piehole.

        • mahaska

          DAN. i think your brain might be leaking.
          get over it.

          • Idiocracy08

            OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet he thinks we’re racists for using capitals and exclamation marks too.

            I have written the way I write for 41 years. The internet protocal ain’t gonna change it.

            OOOO…and guess what Dan….I still type the words HAHA!!!

            • Idiocracy08

              And the post about Wexler not living in Florida is very important.
              We almost let you get away with changing the subject Dan.

    • mahaska

      I wouldn’t know a tennis or basketball analogy if it bit me in the leg. Those people have no clue, do they? If they sat down calmly and thought about what it was like when their mother got mad, it might start sinking in. When mamma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy.

    • susan

      Fowler stated in the video that it would bother him if the superdelegates voted against the will of the people in their states. What, then, does he intend to do about it, since that exact scenario did occur in many states? Or is he like Pelosi, that scenario is okay ONLY when it benefits THEIR candidate, Obama??

    • Jack

      and lay down conditions for their support.

      Again, coded language against Hillary supporters who want to follow party rules and have a roll call vote. Coded, ’cause in their hearts, they know their position is anti-democratic.

    • Clinton Fan

      Indeed. And no one rigged the scoreboard at the Giants-Pats game, either, by not allowing “certain” points to be recorded. The Pats blew that one on their own.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    “It’s time to act in a mature fashion,”

    Hello Kettle.

  • Disgusted

    That about sums it up. Thanks Dr Long.

    • roseeriter

      This DEMANDING tone by the DNC and Bot supporters of Obama makes me nauseous- everytime one of them does it. Whatever happened to free/personal choice, freedom, vote for who one wants, democracy etc.??

      The desperation shows insecurity. Well THEY should have thought, listened and made their decision with information, integrity and maturity instead of pandering and idolizing a loser like Obama. They should have voted for the best candidate-Hillary- and THEY didn’t.

      NOBAMA! EVER!

      • s. hall

        roseeriter — The Democratic Party will not tell me what to do. In the words of Obama if Israel’s best friend is Israel then my best friend is myself and myself tells me to vote Republican across the board. The Party of the people doesn’t give a chit about the people.

        • workingclass artist

          Funny that….on all counts….

  • james andrews

    This has become more important than just Hillary. This is about the future of our party. If and election can be stolen America and all we stand for is in peril. I will not vote for Obama, that is my pledge. I will do all I can to have Hillary nominated and to rebuild the party into the one I joined 25 years ago.

  • kcfromtx

    Yes, my fatigue and irritation will display itself in the voting both when I vote for the “mature” candidate.

    • s. hall

      kcfromtx — By mature you mean the guy who didn’t pose for 2 hours in a humvee in a war zone while reporters got great pictures of him in his sunglasses? McCain is my mature guy. Cause my problems can’t be fixed by an overgrown kid who gets excited when he shoots a 3 pointer.

      • kcfromtx

        S Hall – yes, we will both be voting for the same mature man, the immature boy needs to go back to Chicago.

        • Northwest rain

          the immature boy needs to go back to Chicago.

          To a Chicago JAIL.

          PUMA

      • no waffles aka drkate

        was there a dukakis moment photo there? Or is it that he just looks “cool” in a humvee?

        let’s find that dukakis moment photo and get it out there!

        (preening sob!)

  • workingclass artist

    Good Post….Funny how chiding tends to make recalcitrance habitual…chuckle…
    Besides as I remember it…In the New Party HRC’s recalcitrant followers were declared both undesirable and unnecessary by comrade Brazeal. The New Party should already be unified given that the traditional base for the Old Party has been dismissed….No?

    • Clinton Fan

      They’re starting to realize that fat, pimply potheads who live in mom’s basement aren’t always reliable voters, maybe?

      An Election Day Scenario:

      Mother: “Josh…JOSH!! Hurry up, wake up, get dressed, I’m going to vote! I’ll give you a ride to the polls–you have FIFTEEN MINUTES young man, FIFTEEN MINUTES…and then I’m leaving. I’ve got other errands to run, too, you know. You’ve eaten up all those HOTPOCKETS again along with the rest of the food in the fridge, I’ve got to get to the supermart. Croutons are NOT a snack food, Josh–and I hope you don’t get sick from that raw bacon you apparently ate last night. And then there’s that suspicious stain on the basement couch–I have to stop by the Rent-a-Center to get a steam cleaner. I don’t have all day, JOSH, it’s two PM, you need to get up and out of that bed, young man! And stop smoking that pot all the time…I can smell it, I’m not stupid! It sure seems to be turning you into some kind of zombie, though–I don’t like you spending your entire allowance on that crap! You’re twenty four, time to get a J-O-B and start acting like an adult…this “Blogging for Obama” shit hasn’t made you any money–those twenty dollar checks for eighty hours of typing shit on the computer won’t even buy a supreme pizza, delivered, and that’ll end today, anyway…wake UP, Josh, wake UP! I’m leaving in FIFTEEN MINUTES–I MEAN it!!!”

      JOSH: Mmmmmmnnnnnnfffffbvvvlllllhhhhh ….hope, change, believe….. mmmmmmfffbllllllllsnnnnnflbbbbhhuh….

      (Rolls over and goes back to sleep)

      • workingclass artist

        ( knock at the door )
        Mother opens to find a process server standing on her porch….
        After Mom is served with multiple warrants from Comrade Josh’s hijinks in Denver….oh yeah! that August weekend he stole the car and her wallet and dear ol’ Dad left her for his secretary….she paused to wonder as she reflected on her son’s blissful face as he snored….
        Why do I put up with this ?
        Stay tuned readers as Comrade Josh learns the meaning of change and how to pray for hope….

        *** Good one Clinton Fan….chuckle….Josh, what a perfect name….***

  • TimeWillTell

    ot—–Edwards busted with mistress and lovechild.

    • katmandu

      Yes. New York Magazine has a blurb, too. And the National Enquirer story has some long details. But no pictures? What kind of tabloid reporter who is working on a hot tip doesn’t even have a cell phone camera?

      Interesting.

      • stingy

        I think something is going down behind the scenes. There is no other reason for Edwards to be brought down at this time.

        Maybe the psychic predicting a Clinton/Edwards ticket in the fall is hitting too close to possible considering the way Obama is tanking and going after Edwards now is one way to block it.

        Who knows, but it sure is a weird story especially without pictures considering he was being stalked by the NE.

        • Bye bye Obambi

          Well, maybe he hasn’t done enough for Bambi lately. For example, perhaps he’s refusing to release his delegates. Maybe he likes democracy. The thugs would sure go after him for that.

      • wry

        Yeah, what is it with that? A reporter without a camera?
        If it is true…that’s what you get for crossing Hillary Clinton.

    • Joe

      Karma is a bitch.

    • workingclass artist

      LOL…..read about that too….The Great National Hypocrisy Club is surging in membership….chuckle….Wonder what the kids name and I’ll bet he/she was born with a full head of….GREAT HAIR….

    • Dawnelle

      W H A T?????

      really?????

      ohhhhh my friend is going to be very upset! She was such a loyal fan of his.

      Me? Not so much. Pretty boys. Enough said.

      • Idiocracy08

        what was all the big hoopla about edwards? i could never understand that following either. sure, he is probably a nice guy… to your face…

        he is too much like a used car salesman to me. i can’t stand the way he blinks all the time. he seems soooo fake to me.

        i didn’t like the way he always bragged on his father being a coal miner for 37 years (or whatever). it got to the point to where i was no longer hearing bragging on his father, but rather bragging on himself for getting out of there. i could have sworn i even saw his dad roll his eyes about it once.

        he reminds of of they type of person like Jim Baker – acting like he’s all righteous, but really isn’t.

        • roseeriter

          I agree- Edwards was a phony and at the bottom of my list. Poor Elizabeth- but isn’t that typical- an older woman works her butt off for her man, only to get dumped for immaturity. Gee that sound like Obama vs Hillary situation too.

          • imustprotest

            Elizabeth was the only thing I liked about the guy. She was real, he seemed shallow.

            • Dawnelle

              Elizabeth is a homegirl from SW FLA (I adore her and feel very bad for her situation)

              Eddie is the “SON OF A MILL WORKER”

              roflol not a coal miner (but it’s funny)

              Yep in 04 Clark was my pick
              never Eddie and I was PISSED when Kerry picked him over the MORE EXPERIENCED CLARK!

              I’m tired of this crap with us always putting up the worthless or LESS than Adequate candidate JUST because the RIGHT does!

              Why not go for STELLAR PERFORMER?? She barely missed a beat or a note or a cue and I say we NEED the best politician for the job. Since Bill can’t run again his equal Hillary is the BEST choice!!

              Again, very simple. It’s Economics! It’s MATH!

              • Idiocracy08

                I wasn’t sure what his dad did, that’s why I said (or whatever). I got to where I couldn’t listen to him.

                Wes was my favorite too! I wish he wouldn’t have drank the koolaid though.

            • mahaska

              He’s very rude to Elizabeth. My daughter has a habit of watching what’s going on in the background of events. She has seen him acting pushy and downright rude to her.

    • Ann On

      Clinton supporter Roger Altman is one of the major owners of the ENQUIRER. I can’t decide if their busting Edwards right now was coincidence; Rovian ratfucking to disgrace a prominent Clinton supporter and potential VP; or Clintonite revenge ratfucking. (I love the Clintons, but can’t imagine that being in their bad graces is much fun.) In any case–BOOYAH!

      • Ann On

        Whoops–edit: “to disgrace a prominent Clinton Barky supporter”

    • s. hall

      timewilltell — Wasn’t Edwards one of Clinton’s harshest critics. Real Nice Johnny — while your wife suffers from inoperable cancer have a girlfriend and another baby just waiting in the wings. Hypocrisy rules.

    • mahaska

      Wow, sex with a grown woman! How refreshing.

  • Sassy

    I use the football analagy…”O” had a fourth down, with 20 yards to go…and the rules committee distracted the referees long enough to move the yard marker! This “hail mary” ain’t going to work…if the voters get their heads out of their A$$! I’m never coming home, and that entire letter was insulting!

    • mahaska

      Oh, wait has he missed offending the catholics yet?

  • Tattie

    THE NEW OBAMA PARTY SHOULD BE NAME The Village Idiots. HOW DARE THEY THINK THEY CAN TELL PROPLE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR VOTE. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE I AM ASHAME I WAS EVER A DEMOCRAT

    • Mickey

      I feel the same way.

    • Susan

      I thought the new party didn’t need us???

      They don’t need unity with all the young and energetic new voters they have!

      I’ll just stay over here being immature!

      I used to volunteer and give money and rally around them, but I’ll just stay over here so as not to embarrass the new democratic party with my oh, so immature attitude!

    • Dawnelle

      The O dious BO Party

      heheheh

      • Dawnelle

        If barry was a musical instrument

        it would be an ObO (hehe purposely misspelled)

        • jus messin wit you man

          Please don’t dis the oboe. It’s the most difficult instrument to play proficiently. Nothing that the wuss Oblowme would be able to even consider trying.

          I know you’z jus messin wit us. However, I majored in music – oboe was my instrument – at Indiana University Bloomington. Have to defend fellow oboists, or are we under the bus now, too?

          • katmandu

            You’re right about the oboe. I’ve never played it but my wife was a Big Ten school music major. The book “Mozart in the Jungle” gave me insight on its difficulties.

            • Dawnelle

              woops

              Oboe’s under da bus!
              so we’ve got

              Trumpets
              Oboes
              ?

              • Idiocracy08

                The Organ (lol)

                • Dawnelle

                  HA!

          • basil

            Actually, I kinda wish Waffles would take up the oboe.

            All that carbon dioxide building up in his blood stream with no way for all that hot air to escape except maybe through his ears and he’d probably explode.

            (For the non-musical, there’s a running joke that oboe players can’t get life insurance coz of the strain playing puts on the heart.)

            hehehehe

          • TeakwoodKite

            Here Here! Maybe a Gazoo would work for the BO band.

            Try making your own reeds. Not an easy thing to do.

            Peter and the Wolf comes to mind.

            • workingclass artist

              I am so grateful we can all rally around to defend the noble Oboe…
              If we could just get some UN action I think we could all rest easy….
              *** Sorry….Most clarinetists tend to be a little nuerotic about the attention other woodwinds are always getting….scuse….***

        • audacity

          i prefer

          oh boy

        • mahaska

          I thought he was a flute

      • mahaska

        I wish I was a poet.
        An Ode to The Odious Bo

        • Bye bye Obambi

          I am a poet. I’ll work on it.

          • Dawnelle

            YAY!!

    • Idiocracy08

      I’m going to write a book called “it takes a village to raise an idiot!”

      • basil

        OMG!

        Cottage-friggin’ cheese on the keyboard!

    • s. hall

      tattie — Obama thought after he gave himself the nomination he could become a defacto Republican and the Democratic Party allowed him to diss them and their platform. Now he thinks he can win without, Florida, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. He thinks he can win without the Democratic base of Women, Seniors, Boomers, Hispanics, Gays and White Workers. All he needs are Republicans, The Christian Right, The Youth, and Latte Liberals. The Republicans are voting McCain and the Right Wing will never vote for Obama. Sorry you don’t qualify for the job of President — NEXT — Perhaps you could come try again when this country has 57 states.

      • kcfromtx

        He has Acorn and he just may have fixed voting machines and that is why he is not worried. He should though, he is not getting the Hispanic vote no matter what the polls tell you.

        • mahaska

          Acorn has been here in the Pacific Northwest having meetngs with people losing their houses. Supposedly they can help them. What are they pulling?

  • Joe

    The DNC and its lackeys must really be hurting over the lack of financial support for their candidate for them to issue out a pathetic plea like this. Well, they fully deserve what they got in anointing the Messiah. They know that their heads will roll once the GOP again captures the White House in November.

  • katmandu

    http://www.thehotjoints.com/2008/07/22/tar-baby-john-kerry-uses-racist-term-to-describe-attacks-on-obama/

    BTW, hasn’t anyone told John Kerry that when he’s defending Obama he should not use the “tar baby” phrase?

    • rjj

      THE STRATAGEM THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME!!!!

      what are Kerry’s words exactly? Interesting that term should come up again. The last time it was used by a public figure when Romney referred to something in Massachusetts, the Big Dig, probably. There was such a PC outcry that the word could only be whispered among trusted friends. Now Kerry uses it. Wonder what made him think of it?

      • audacity

        north carolina

        • NomNomNom

          WTF do you mean by that, dumbsh#t?
          I’m a North Carolinian, and I don’t freaking aprreciate your inference about my state.

          • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

            msybe audacity was thinking of tar heels?

    • Hope Floats

      Oh, but it’s cool. He gets to be an honorary member this year for services rendered. Better remember that status once conferred is easily revoked without notice (sorry, Bill!) So, Kerry should enjoy the ride while it lasts. Have fun fist-bumping and using “okie doke”, “bamboozled”, “hoodwinked” and now “tar baby.”

  • Tattie

    CORRECTION “PEOPLE”

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Thank you, Dr. Long! In a sane world, Obama would never have run for President in the first place. I have never seen a worse candidate, in all my years of voting Democratic.

    I am saying NO DEAL to this corrupt, toxic sure loser named Barack Obama.

    It’s the “mature” thing to do.

    PUMA!

  • NOBama in August

    Mr. Fowler chided Hillary supporters, “I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with the people who continue to carp, complain and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support.”

    Doesn’t it say it all when the party that needs your support is chiding you? Logic would dictate they would listen to your concerns and do something about it in order to get your support.

    • Susan

      Maybe they can threaten to ground us!

      • Dawnelle

        Hahahhaha!

        This GAL doesn’t take kindly to threats! ;-)

        • mahaska

          He;s the type that would pat me on the head. I’m short. I now flinch when men’s hands try to pat me.

    • basil

      It’s too bad Fowler issued this statement coz as i recall he was just about the only one who objected about the RBC plan to strip Florida of all delegates at the 8/27/07 meeting.

      (I watched the whole 87 minutes on c-span.)

      And I think he made a feeble attempt to defend HRX on May 31, no?

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        no he flipped, his wife is the one who told Barky it was hunkey dorey to run 1 mill in ads covering FLA….

    • s. hall

      NObama — me thinks that the fatigue and irritation the party feels is because their nominee. He promised to help fund the Democratic Party and instead has become for all intents and purposes a Republican and has totally ignored the pleas from down ticket Democrats and doesn’t even return phone calls from Pelosi and Dean. This according to DC Dems who are totally frustrated with their arrogant nominee.

      Mr. Fowler I would be irritated too if I were you. You’ve been had–we told you so. However, you would rather blame the messengers than the nominee from Hell. tsk tsk — Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Agreed. And wasn’t it Don Fowler who was so upset at the RBC meeting when the “MI Solution” was proposed?? I believe he said, “Well, if you go with exit polls, than John Kerry would be president now!”

      So he has turned to The One now?

      Can I just ask – why in the world is the DNC so worried abt holding a REAL convention in which delegates get to voice their support for the candidate who won their state???

      And, I would also like to know when the DNC became the RNC – was it Dean? Brazile? This is not the same party it was just 8 yrs ago, or I’d like to think it isn’t. Then again, the way these bozos have acted in Congress, maybe it IS the same…

      EXCELLENT post, Dr. Long! Thank you! (And madamab, good to see you over here!)

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      >>> Mr. Fowler chided Hillary supporters, “I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with the people who continue to carp, complain and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support.”

      Fuck Fowler.
      Fuck the horse he rode in on.
      Fuck his little cat that sings the blues.

    • mahaska

      It’s nothing to the fatigue and irritation we all feel from bo’s fabulous fun show. I’m way past tired of him.

  • Ugo

    The most disturbing to me is how the so called democrats tv-talking head cannot defend the truth. There are all spin the lies in every possible way.

    Watching Howard Wolfson on “media love affair” of Hannity and Colmes, he spin everything there was no single truth comming out of him. I wish they all stay away, that is one of the reasons the democrats are going to lose big, because they can not tell the truth. All the Americans need is the truth. Well,
    Hannity said it best, “It did not take you long to switch, Howard?”

    For us it is no longer about the party, it is about our country USA, it is not about making history, it is about USA, it is about having a presidential candidate that loves this country, one who has been loving this country before they thought of running for that great office. It is not about WORDS. It is about USA.

    • Boxer Mum 06

      I found it a bit uncanny though that Howard continued to say the same talking point – the old stand by from the Alice Palmer days: XXX ran a bad campaign.

      Hillary ran a bad campaign
      McCain is running a bad campaign

      Howard is nothing more than a kool-aid drinker now.

      • Idiocracy08

        did anyone ever like howard? i always thought he was a plant, because he was too much of a pipsqueak for me.

        • Dawnelle

          I loved him in 06 when he brought us a win in congress and the house but probably anyone at that point could have done the same

          and Schumer took a lot of credit too

          even though I didn’t give it to him at the time.

          • hank48188

            What was the point of voting control of Congress to the DEMS, they have NO LEADERSHIP and are too afraid to make a move of any kind. The DEMS have lost me, I supported them for years but I’m voting straight REPUBLICAN this year. I live in Michigan, the Party Bosses took MY VOTE and GAVE IT TO OBAMA. He decided to REMOVE his name from the Ballot and he still gets 45% of the Delegates?? Who the hell are these people, they have no value of DEMOCRACY, the vote MEANS NOTHING TO THEM, just the agenda the Morons calling the shots, Coward Dean and Donna Brazile and the rest of the lunatic fringe.

            • workingclass artist

              True Hank….Of course in the New Party the use of LOGIC is greatly discouraged amongst New Party Comrades….chuckle….

    • basil

      Yeah.

      Wolfson was disappointing.

      • Hope Floats

        He continues to disappoint. Outside of a campaign, I can’t stand him now. I read an interview with him. He seemed so aloof and trying too hard to sound cool.

        • s. hall

          hope — don’t you think Wolfson and the rest know what a debacle they face? This was to be their year — they thought they could win it all. They know what Obama is but they cannot admit even to themselves what a mistake they made. Why else would they force people into a party from which these same people were driven not more than a month ago? The Republicans will chew on the Democrats stupidity for years to come. Already the media is pointing out what a great Campaign Clinton ran. The D in Democratic Party is for Dumb

          • Thinker

            very true. They don’t want to admit that they made a mistake.

    • buckwheat

      i saw wolfson on hannity and he told sean to get over it ! wtf……the whole damn party is a bunch of disloyal losers.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      they have the PUUURFECT shirt for you here:

      http://www.denitza-nyc.com/18MillionStrong_s/33.htm

      COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!

      WooT!!!!

  • Pastor Manning

    When ‘officials’ talk about party unity they do not mean the voter, they refer to themselves, the ruling class. Voters, volunteers and those who have dedicated a lifetime to support the party are just an inconvenience. A voter is something you have to seduce every few years and than get up wipe yourself, walk away and betray their trust.

    • Dawnelle

      It’s sad isn’t it!

      And your NAMESAKE is pretty pissed off today with everything black!

      Yikes he made me cry in this one! Poor guy, I do like him but he’s suffering.

    • basil

      YIKES!

      What a visual!!!!!!

      Are you a cartoonist?

  • parentofed

    My senior citizen, pro-Hillary, anti-Obama spouse wears a T-shirt that says “I may get old, but I’ll never grow up.” That seems appropriate here

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    I met Donnie Fowler on several occasions, thinking him to be an intelliegent and bright guy. So I get a bit irritated when I learn that he thinks it’s an effective strategy to chide those who have very legitimate gripes about the appalling way this primary went down. He and his DNC friends need to realize that the Democratic party is broken and THEY broke it!

    Great post Dr. Lynette.

  • katmandu

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/22/AR2008072202462.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    Washington Post editorial today on Obama’s foreign policy. Basically, he did NOT get support for his plan and his vision on Afg is “eccentric.”

    This is a must read.

    • educatedwhitewoman

      The Washington Post is too gentle; Barack’s plan sounds downright dangerous. A fatal policy error is not merely “eccentric.” As the WP elaborates:

      “Yet Mr. Obama’s account of his strategic vision remains eccentric. He insists that Afghanistan is “the central front” for the United States, along with the border areas of Pakistan. But there are no known al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, and any additional U.S. forces sent there would not be able to operate in the Pakistani territories where Osama bin Laden is headquartered. While the United States has an interest in preventing the resurgence of the Afghan Taliban, the country’s strategic importance pales beside that of Iraq, which lies at the geopolitical center of the Middle East and contains some of the world’s largest oil reserves. If Mr. Obama’s antiwar stance has blinded him to those realities, that could prove far more debilitating to him as president than any particular timetable.”

  • bmc

    When you put it that way….it’s brilliant!

    Thanks, because whether or not Barack becomes the nominee, whether or not Barack becomes the president, the loser will be the Democratic Party, in the end.

    Many of us will never come back, and will remain independent from now on. I cannot ever fully trust the Democratic Party ever again, after what I’ve witnessed. I have been completely alienated from Democrats, and no longer feel any need to defend the party from Republican attacks. I just shrug with apathy about it now.

    I just don’t care which party wins anymore. Whoever is in the WH–since the best candidate was banned from competing by her own party–will not have my trust, because HE will be “the evil of two lessers.”

    • Dawnelle

      yeap

    • mahaska

      It’s obvious that it needs to go down and to be rebuilt with honest people. If that can’t be done, we need a new party.

  • Hillarity Ensues

    Shorter LL:

    Wahhhh!!!! Despite universal name ID and a whole trove of advantages, we got upset by a freshman senator. Wahhhh!!!! So the rules should change. Wahhhh!!!! We didn’t know the rules were so unfair in 2007. Wahhh!!! We’re the mature ones. Wahhhh!!!

    Wahhh!!!

    • NOBama in August

      Thanks for you words of encouragement to continue fighting for Hillary in Denver.

    • NOBama in August

      Whoops sorry when I saw the Wahhhhh, I thought you were an Obama supporter. lol!

    • mahaska

      nobama. get over it.

      • NOBama in August

        Could you elaborate?

        • mahaska

          Not your name silly, it was a vow.

    • Newly Independent

      Go home Obama brat!

  • Donkey Brazziere

    No DEM votes for me this time. Get over it!

  • Sami

    For Will Bower and the French Press: MERCI BEAUCOUP!

    (Obama would be ashamed of me for knowing so little French).

    • Dawnelle

      LOL I took French a hundred years ago (it seems) and only remember so much.

      Babel Fish on line is the best translator I’ve found (there could be many). :-]

  • anonymous

    This is important from Will Bower! Spread the word!

    A Most Important Call to PUMA Action: Let Hillary Know
    22-Jul-08

    PUMAs,

    All roads are beginning to lead back to Hillary.

    It is looking more and more like it is -she- who will ultimately have the power to allow her name to be placed into nomination.

    Hillary is now reaching out to us, asking us what issues matter the most to each of us:

    http://www.hillpac.com/action/issues/?sc=2498&utm_source=2498&utm_medium=e

    This is how -I- chose to respond:

    “What is the issue that matters to -me- the most? That you, Hillary, be the 44th President of the United States… from 2009-2017. Please, Senator Clinton, allow your name to be placed into nomination… for the 18,000,000 of us who gave you our vote and our voice.

    Thank you, Respectfully, Will Bower”

    It is now time that *every* PUMA voice be heard by Hillary. We must *all* reach out to her… with our heads, our hearts, and our experiences. She needs to know that we are here… and *why* we are here.

    There will be many more Calls to Action in the days to come: Delegate Outreach. PUMA Gatherings Nationwide. The Pre-Convention PUMA Conference. All of these are -very- important… but all of them are secondary to letting Hillary know that we still want — and need — her to be our next President.

    http://www.hillpac.com/action/issues/?sc=2498&utm_source=2498&utm_medium=e

    Thank you, PUMAs. We can do this. Hillary can do this.

    Let her know.

    Will Bower

    PUMA / Just Say NO DEAL

    • Boxer Mum 06

      I received this e-mail from Hillary as well. Although I responded once, I copied and pasted the above and sent it off again.

      Maybe if we all reach out to her, she will get the message that we have not forgotten and have ‘moved on’.

    • Hillarity Ensues

      I do have to admit…

      I am a bit jealous of Will Bower. He’s apparently seized on a wonderful scam.

      Seems the Clinton campaign claims they haven’t received the funds Bower and the PUMAs claim to have raised.

      I am raising money for Hillary, too. I am also raising money to prevent the evil Stalin/Hitler/Devil Obama from being president. Please send me money, too!

      • NOBama in August

        Wahhh!!!

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        PUMA is not collecting money for Hillary. Donatios are made directly to Hillary Clintons web site.

        As far as the PUMA donations falling short, maybe you should check the July Fundraising numbers instead of the June numbers. The PUMA effort was in JULY not June.

        “within that week leading up to the Fourth of July we raised approximately $10 million”

        “According to the FEC, Clinton only raised $2.7 million in June”

        Since the PUMA contributons were donated in July, maybe, just maybe, you should be checking the July contributions not the June contributions.

        Check back with us when Hillary’s July fundraising numbers are released. That should be sometime in August.

        In the mean time, thank you for demonstrating your stupidity.

        • yttik

          Cash on Hand: $26,046,667
          Debts: $25,201,723
          Date of last report: Jul 29 2008 12:00AM
          http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=2008

          I don’t know, it kind of looks like her debt might be gone. On this chart there’s a green bar all the way across:

          http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

        • imustprotest

          The Obamabots are really getting desperate…the comment from Hillerty Ensues is a prime example. I am proud to be on the right side of these issues, I am proud to be a PUMA.

        • barack who?

          I’m glad to see PUMA is getting great financial support.

          Johnny, I hope you don’t mind, I’m going to change my handle to “I,Bama” for a while.

          you know what they say about imitation…
          :-)

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        Troll:

        News Flash – Your sister’s pimp picked her up for work about 15 minutes ago. If you pedal REAL fast, you can get home from Burger King and wear her underwear for awhile before your Mom gets back from bingo!

        • workingclass artist

          ROFL…On a roll Fred….You are on a roll my friend….keep it up

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        Oh trolll, can you read a calendar can ya?? cause we started our fundraising drives in July..

        FEC report wont be filed until Aug 20th

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      done

    • Dawnelle

      Done! Thanks ;-)

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    The DNC and Obamaramas want me to justify and rubber stamp their stupidity. It’s not going to happen.

    I have a message for them: GET OVER IT!

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    For me, it would no matter if Ibama was legitimately nominated. He is a bad candidate. PERIOD.

    Where does it say that I have to vote for a bad candidate? Where does it say I must vote for someone I find utterly incompetent?

    GET OVER IT DEMS.

    You shit the bed, you sleep in it. NOT ME.

    • Dawnelle

      LOL

      My Mamma says “don’t mess your own bed and don’t burn any bridges”

      LOL

      • Dawnelle

        I’m LOL because Barry and the Jets(Dean,Donna & the DNC) have done both!!

    • gregoryp

      That really is the dealbreaker isn’t it? I think they believe this is a penny ante poker game and are calling our bluff. I got news for them. This isn’t a game and I am not bluffing. Straight republican ticket for this liberal (I don’t identify with progressive). Obama’s the worst candidate to ever come down the pike. Ever!

      • mahaska

        Now that’s an analogy I can go with. I play poker too and never bluff.

    • s. hall

      johnny good point. If Obama was the legitimate nominee–he still sucks. How dare the Democrats force me to vote for him. Did they force the Reagan Democrats to come home? Well in 08 we are the Clinton Democrats and we are not as easily bought as the threatened and bribled SD’s seem to have been.

    • mimi

      question?

      What is lbama supposed to mean?

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        since it is me me me, “I”, bama

        like I, Claudius, but I-bama

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        I thought it was an old brand of toothpaste? (“Bucky Beaver”)

        One of the former Mrs. Trumps?

  • Hank Collins

    Speaking of sports, the media have a new “polarizing figure” to talk about. This article falls right in line with the sexism of the mainstream media today. Tennis star Kournakova is described as “the girl people love to hate”.

    Wasn’t Hillary exactly the same thing? Don’t we in the U.S. make a kind of sport of hurling insults at women? Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Leona Helmsly, Tammy-Fae, and the list goes on. Be a woman, and put yourself out there in public, and this is what you get. I believe Clarence Thomas would say that the treatment of women, here in the West, is “nothing more than high tech stoning.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/23/still-loved-and-still-hated/

    • gregoryp

      How could anyone hate Anna Kournakova? She isn’t the most talented tennis player but worked hard and pretty much maximized her talent. It isn’t her fault she was born stunning and was able to transition into another career fairly easy. Also, she seems like a very nice person to me. It was kind of the same thing with Ivan Lendl. Hate someone who works their ass off, becomes very good at what they do (way better than their talent), and who is a terrific person to boot. We Americans have got to be some of the most twisted people on earth.

    • Dawnelle

      sometimes maybe but those you mentioned have DONE IN themselves imo. Especially Tammy Faye (wtf) sorry but she intentionally made herself look like a clown. I have no clue why. It didn’t do much for the religion she promoted imo.

      Brit is a boob
      Paris is an heiress (enuff said)
      Hemsley was a horrid creature

      but Thomas was worse!!! And of course that means he becomes a Supreme! Of course! coke can hairs and all! ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

      • s. hall

        Dawnelle — disagree with you on Tammy Faye. She had so much bad luck and yet she was always so positive. She was the sweetest and most loving person I have ever seen. I will miss her.

      • mahaska

        Long dong silver has an opinion on how women are threated?

        • mahaska

          whoa, freudian much? s/b treated

  • katmandu

    This piece was written by a McCain adviser, so it is likely to have a slant, but I think he may have pegged Maliki:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/22/AR2008072202550.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    Keep in mind also that Maliki has no military experience and that he has been trapped in the Green Zone, relatively isolated from day-to-day life. For these reasons, he has been a consistent font of misguided predictions about how quickly U.S. forces could leave.
    In May 2006, shortly after becoming prime minister, he claimed, “Our forces are capable of taking over the security in all Iraqi provinces within a year and a half.”
    In October 2006, when violence was spinning out of control, Maliki declared that it would be “only a matter of months” before his security forces could “take over the security portfolio entirely and keep some multinational forces only in a supporting role.”
    President Bush wisely ignored Maliki. Instead of withdrawing U.S. troops, he sent more. The prime minister wasn’t happy. On Dec. 15, 2006, the Wall Street Journal reported, “Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has flatly told Gen. George Casey, the top American military commander in Iraq, that he doesn’t want more U.S. personnel deployed to the country, according to U.S. military officials.” When the surge went ahead anyway, Maliki gave it an endorsement described in news accounts as “lukewarm.”
    In January 2007, with the surge just starting, Maliki predicted “that within three to six months our need for the American troops will dramatically go down.” In April 2007, when most of Baghdad was still out of control, the prime minister said that Iraqi forces would assume control of security in every province by the end of the year.

    Note: even op-eds from politicos are examined for factual errors by the Post op-ed staff before publication, so these points about Maliki are likely correct.

    • gregoryp

      I’ve been wanting to ask this question for days on one of these blogs. If we pulled out of Iraq how would you measure his life expectancy? Years? Months? Weeks? Days? Hours? Minutes? or Seconds? Surely, he isn’t stupid enough to think that the violence won’t explode the instant we leave. Right now is just not a good time to even be contemplating a pullout. That discussion should not even be on the table. Years or decades is the more likely scenario. We have a responsibility to fix what we broke.

  • Roger Range

    What’s the deal with this website? You are all insane. Both Clintons are supporting Obama, in case you haven’t noticed. I’m guessing you are all secretly Republicans, because no real Democrat would vote for McStain.

    • workingclass artist

      SPOKEN LIKE A PROPER LITTLE FASCIST…..Now Comrade Roger waddle back to GAZA…..Please end more interesting and intelligent Trolls….( sigh )

    • Sharon

      You’re not “guessing” anything. The “secret republicans” lie comes straight from the Obama camp and their minions in the propaganda media and the lying “progressive” blogosphere. You’ve been told to repeat the line on every blog as many hundreds of times as you can – after you get all your homework done, that is…

      Obots have no power to reason or think or “guess” anything. Your job is to regurgitate endlessly.

      • Roger Range

        THE CLINTONS ARE SUPPORTING OBAMA. FACT. If you can’t handle it, too bad. I stand by my statement that no Democrat would vote for the 2008 McCain, a.k.a Lil’ Bush.

        • researchguy66

          Frankly, I couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ whether you or your messianic freaks consider me a real Democrat. My vote is mine and I’ll use it how I like.

          • Roger Range

            Yeah, your Republican vote. It would make more sense to write in Clinton than to vote for McShame. Why don’t all of you do that?

            • imustprotest

              Roger Rabbit….I am not voting for Obama, get over it.

            • NOBama in August

              No it wouldn’t.

            • I, Bama

              Because the posters here are dedicated to keeping Senator B.Ogus out of the White House. Is that so difficult to understand?

              Country before party. I’m a Republican who donates to numerous anti-BO sites, whether they are Democrat run or not. If in Denver the delegates choose HRC as nominee, and she beats John McCain in the general so be it.

              She would be a million times better as POTUS than the Illinois Fraud.

            • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

              cause we want to ENSURE Uhhbama loses, that’s why, and we are aware in some states Uhhbama gets the DEM write ins..

              I am a 20 yr DEM who has always voted straight down the ticket for DEMS and have given my time and money to DNC DSCC DCCC and my state DEM Party and nominees, so give it up already

              you cant stop the SDs from hearing from us, live with your nominee and live with your landslide loss in November

              Ciao! (that’s garlic nose language to meet Uhhbama cultural diversity requirements)

              • workingclass artist

                Ginaswo….LOL….have to keep up with the New Party rulz….helps with avoidance of indoctrination…..

        • Dawnelle

          they are supporting him because they will be the rightful heirs when he has to step DOWN soon!! Before NOV.

          Don’t you get it?

          It’s called Protocol! (boob)

        • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

          So what “Roger Range”? Just because you fall in line like a lemming doesn’t mean everybody else has to.

          • Dawnelle

            I’ll stand in Sugar’s Line! :-)

            She thinks like me. (so far)

            • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

              Hola Dawnelle! :) We get to be called “covert” Republicans some more today huh? lol These stupid idiots never cease to amaze me.

              • Dave

                well I agree with you guys on something at least- calling PUMA’s Republicans is an insult to Republicans worldwide.

          • Roger Range

            You don’t know anything about me. My point is that no Democrat would vote for a Republican after 8 years of Bush.

            • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

              “Roger” are all Democrats cut from the same cloth? Since you seem to want to imply that all Republicans are exactly the same, when we all know that’s not true, thus the Republicans’ reluctance to warm up to McCain in the beginning. If all Democrats are cut from the same cloth, then why pray tell was that Screeching Banshee, Congressman Wexler of Rules and Bylaws Committee fame, on Fox News last night trying to hem and haw his way out of being caught in an apparent housing scheme. I’m sure that story is about to heat up. I’ve always voted Democratic and I’ve been proud of it, but I will not vote for Obama if he’s the one on that ballot in November. With or WITHOUT Hillary as his VP.

              • Roger Range

                You don’t have to vote for Obama. Vote for a third party. Write in Clinton. Anything but Bush Jr.

                • Buzz Latte

                  Vote for the person, not the party. McCain is the better choice should the dems be really stuck with Obutthead.

                  You can make up all the analogies that make sense to you Roger Dodger, but one fact remains.

                  We will not vote for Obama. Never. So, do your blood pressure a favor and get over it.

                  PUMA!!!

                  • slobodaneee

                    Presumptive nominee McCain is the better choice if you hold to conservative views on choice, health care, energy policy, and national defense. If you share democratic views on the issue, the democratic candidate, Presumptive nominee Obama, is the better choice since he shares cloer views on the issues with Hillary. Now, if you just want to punish Obama for coming out top in the primary and feel he “stole” the first viable woman’s turn then McCain is also you man.

                • Newly Independent

                  You don’t tell ANYONE who to vote for.

                  Creep.

              • kellie

                “If he’s on the ballot on November”

                If? He will be on the ballot. GET OVER IT!

                Do you realize that you are the only group on people ion planet earth that thinks Hillary still has a chance at becoming the nominee?

                Don’t for Obama! He doesn’t need your 25 collective votes. Since you’re republicans he never expected to get them anyway.

                • imustprotest

                  Kellie, thank you for giving me permission to vote for who I please. I must be hard to have such responsibility at such a young age. I mean to carry the weight of telling Americans who they can and can’t vote for….really, it must take it’s toll.

                  Oh yeah, Kellie. I’m not voting for Obama. Get over it.

                  • kellie

                    I am not telling you who to vote for. I just don’t see how you can say you’re for Hillary and then vote for McCain. Where’s the connection here?
                    What issues are Hillary and McCain compatible on? What qualities did Hillary have that you see in McCain?
                    I know, I know. You’re not voting for McCain you’re voting against Obama. That’s a really weak argument. Write in Hillary or vote 3rd party.

                    • Buzz Latte

                      Kellie, you don’t even read your own crap.

                      You have no power here. You are wasting your time and you are not convincing anyone that Obama is even a choice.

                      The more you interject, the more we all resolve to make sure Obama is not the president.

                      Get over it.

                    • mahaska

                      An earler poster here nailed it. They are trying to get people to write in Clinton, hoping we are as stupid as they are and not aware we could be wasting a vote. So, earlier poster, you were right. It’s the theme of the day.

                • wry

                  If he doesn’t need our votes then why are you here getting all twisted? Do you think Barky knows you’re defending him…and he loves you for it?

                • Thinker

                  Kellie,

                  The vast majority of us are not Republicans. We are Democrats fed up with what we witnessed during this primary, and some of us are now Independent.

                  And let me tell you:

                  Our number is far greater than 25.

                  Hillary had 18 million voters supporting her, so I don’t understand why people this that it’s so unreasonable that we would all come together to talk about this on a webpage.

                • Newly Independent

                  “Do you realize that you are the only group on people ion planet earth that thinks Hillary still has a chance at becoming the nominee?”

                  That’s because YOUR stupid ass still gets your news from the “mainstream media.”

                  There are GROUPS who are still fighting to get Hillary on the ballot in August where she rightfully belongs – you dumbass. (Which in itself is an absolute disgrace – considering that Hillary WON the damned popular vote and NEITHER candidate won enough delegates during the primary to seal the nomination!)

                  Obama and the DNC KNOW that Hillary is still a real threat to their f—– up agenda.

                  Which is why they’re trying to figure out what to do about her & her supporters at the convention.

                  And also why Mr. Flim-Flam keeps sending annoying little bastards like you to pro-Hillary sites to post your crap.

                  But it’s awfully damned hard to ignore and dismiss 18 million voters….

            • workingclass artist

              Where have you been Comrade Roger…Oh right, teaching recent US History that is factual is not indicative of the Obama Indoctrination Camps in either the US or Gaza….St. Reagan had no problem attracting intelligent Democrats disgusted by the Old Party’s refusal to seek treatment for collective Leadership Insanity that paralized the party and put forward yet another WINNER FOR POTUS….Ever heard of Reagan Democrats? Get your head out of the New Party Lit and make sure Dear Leader does’nt snap a shot of you reading something besides the Official Handbook…Enquiring Minds are discouraged amongst New Party Members….

              • Roger Range

                Oh, McCain is like Reagan now? I guess you have a point there, McCain IS starting to get a bit senile…

            • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

              Voting for obama would be like voting for another bush term! An idiot is an idiot no matter the political party.
              In my opinion a true Democrat would never endorse such an unvetted, inexperienced, corrupt presidential wantabe. You must be a Republican operative attempting to bring down the Democratic party by supporting obama.

              • workingclass artist

                Contrary to New Party Lit…..the Reagan Democrats phenom hadas much to do with Democrats Protesting the idiocy of the Old Party as it did with choosing what they considered to be the lesser of two evils at that time….I have been a Voting Democratic my entire voting life and will vote GOP for the first time this year as an option to participate in cleansing America of this NEW PARTY AND THEIR FASCIST LEADER WITH HIS FASCIST GANG…..

                *** OBAMA IS HEADED OR POLITICAL OBLIVION ***
                Please New Party Leadership to send more entertaining Trolls, thanks.

                • Roger Range

                  Obama is a fascist??? You do realize that Fascism is a right-wing ideology, right?

                  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

                    “Fascism” from wikipedia:

                    Fascism is a term used to describe authoritarian nationalist political ideologies or mass movements that are concerned with notions of cultural decline or decadence and seek to achieve a millenarian national rebirth by exalting the nation or race, and promoting cults of unity, strength and purity.

                    • Fred C. Dobbs

                      You have to excuse Roger. His edjumakayshun ended in a place where courses are numbered I, II and III instead of 201, 301 and 406.

                      Probably thinks Polsby and Wildavsky are Obama bundlers from Chicago.

                      HEY, ROGER!

                      GIMME SOME FRIES WITH THOSE PITHY OBSERVATIONS! AND HOLD THE KETCHUP ON THE BULLSHIT BURGER!!!

                    • workingclass artist

                      LOL….I nominate Fred C. Dobbs as New Party Chairman of anything….Man you make me laugh….

                    • imustprotest

                      HA! I second that! I’d vote for Fred!

                      Dobbs 08

            • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

              I exist, therefore you are wrong, in fact there are millions of us so you are WAAAAAY wrong

        • brodie

          Yeah, sure, if you think so. Of course, you’re wrong- but it won’t matter to you as you have it all figured out, don’t you? Fine then- run along and leave us alone. As The Closer would say “Thanks so much.” Now- PISS OFF, Sweetie.

        • Clinton Fan

          When nothing else works, resort to vague threats!

          Yeah, that’s the ticket!

          Tool.

          Vapid, used, nitwit.

        • Newly Independent

          You’re right.

          As of this year, I’m NO DEMOCRAT.

          McCain ’08!!!!

      • angie

        HA! Obama sure loved him some Republicans when he was begging them all to “be a Dem for a day.” Now they want to use it as some kind of insult. pfft. Truly pathetic, each and every one of those kool aid kidz.

        • Roger Range

          Pathetic is pretending to be a Democrat to somehow get votes for McCain. Great strategy!

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      No real Democrat would vote for Ibama.

      • roseeriter

        Agree! No real Democrat would vote for Obama.

        Country before Party Loyalty!

        • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

          agree no REAL DEM would vote for Uhhbama

    • kellie

      No, no Roger you need to catch up. See here’s the thing. The Clintons hate Obama and they are being held hostage by him and the DNC. They only smile and play nice because they have to.

      I mean it’s not like Hillary Clinton would wet her pants in public for the chance to be Obama’s VP or anything.

      Also, no one here is a republican here even though just last night one of these good people told me they also voted against Kerry (or for Bush as I like to say) in the last election, but yeah democrats, that’s right.

      • Dave

        “The Clintons hate Obama and they are being held hostage by him and the DNC.”

        Hahahaha, talk about delusional…

        • kellie

          I was being sarcastic.

          • Dave

            whoops…sorry. Sometimes very hard to separate the wheat from the chaff here.

            • kellie

              Don’t worry about it. I know it must be hard to read, I’m sure you’re in some kind of weed & kood-aid induced haze. Mine is starting to wear off but I just smoked a bowl and moms making a fresh batch of purple drink so I should be ok in no time.

            • Changebot 2.1 (now with 20% more hope!)

              Two Obama supporters talking to each other, that would get confusing!

            • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

              BWAAAHAAA I LOVE IT WHEN YOU TROLL EACH OTHER!!!

              WooT!!!

              Go try to raise more money for golden boy!!

              BWAAAHAAAAHAAA!!!

      • beebop

        Kellie:

        I know that there must be terrific comfort to you to believe that NQ is populated by Republicans. I guess I would believe the same thing if I was toking on the bong as heavily as you are. Come November however GF, you will find big groups of Democrats missing and guess what? They would be us. That’s right. 38 years … buh-bye. Never ever voted for a Republican. Left a ballot blank when one ran unopposed. So there you are. Still believe in the good fairy? He’ll have to work overtime to get Barry elected, sweetie!

        • Dave

          Sounds like beebop has been huffing the cat urine a tad tooo much lately.

          Look at me! Drug reference attacks rule!

          • beebop

            Dave, dear little demonic offspring from very nice people I am sure ….

            Little Miss Kellie inferred that everyone here is a Republican because one person said that they voted against Kerry — apparently it never occurred to her that RALPH NADER was on the ballot — so I don’t see that drawing the conclusion that she was toking was that far off the mark.

            You, on the other hand are simply a pimply, ignorant, under talented overly self important little turd. We can smell you when you are logged in.

        • kellie

          Can you please provide me with proof that the majority of Obama supporters are drug addicted, retarded punks? Because anytime someone posts something pro Obama, you either accuse them of smoking crack, tell them to go back to their mommy or call them an idiot.
          So if you could kindly point me to where you got these startling stats, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

          • workingclass artist

            Ehemm….Kellie….That would be OFFICIAL US GOVT. CRACK ( according to Uncle Gerry ) and special NEW PARTY members get to toke out of an OFFICIAL UNITY PARTY BONG….Where have you been? Either you have already been thrown under the bus by your Dear Leader or you aretoo stupid to to least enjoy yourself during the INDOCTRINATION….Which makes you just…..SAAAAD!
            Stay in Gaza will ya…..sheeeesh!

      • mahaska

        I’m sure you would recognize the smile. All your dates probably have it while thinking up an escape plan.

    • Changebot 2.1 (now with 20% more hope!)

      Why does it freak out these Obama bots that one website on the left does not like the the nominee?

      Its like all opposition needs to be crushed. This is what America has to look forward to if he gets elected I don’t know what scares me more Obama or his supporters. But Like Mugabe it does not really matter.

      Mugabe himself is not beating up people and stealing their farms

      • Dave

        “Why does it freak out these Obama bots that one website on the left does not like the the nominee?”

        Straw man- Larry has said himself that this is not a ‘left’ or ‘liberal’ blog.

        • roseeriter

          Larry has also said that he does not support McCain (nor do I)- So Independent people here idiot bot.

          • Dave

            So…Changebot calls this a “website on the left”

            I disagree and say it’s not.

            You agree with me, but call me the idiot.

            Which makes you…a [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR].

          • Changebot 2.1 (now with 20% more hope!)

            roseeriter, wow I meant left of center, I did not say Communist. I consider myself an independent. Sorry to offend you…

      • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

        Changebot, you should see the way they are now swarming McCain’s YouTube posts. lol He at least leaves his comment section open to criticism. The Chosen One moderates his comments.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmmm…..Typical FASCIST behavior…..straight out of the handbook.

        • Fred C. Dobbs

          BUT:

          Will he make the Trains Run on Time?

          Du-CE! Du-CE! Du-CE!

          • workingclass artist

            Hmmm…..Don’t know that yet but I’m sure he’ll have at LEAST 300 advisers and maybe even a czar to advise the Dear Komrade in chief on that one too…..

            • Fred C. Dobbs

              The trains was Mussolini’s hook for the Italian masses. Italian state railways were notoriously late (no surpise to anyone who has owned a FIAT, or lived with anyone who owns a FIAT).

              So, to make the Medicine Go Down, Il Duce (DOO-chey) prmised to make the trains run on time and backed the Communist-run railway unions up against the wall.

              Everyone was SO happy to have reliable train service, they overlooked what a tub of rancid lard the clown was.

              Hos adoring fans would crowd public squares to hear him speak, crying, “DU-ce! DU-ce!”

              I usually cite Mussolini rather than Hitler, since Mussolini and the Fascists were a going concern while ‘Dolph was rotting in jail, writing MEIN KAMPF and blaming jews for the death of the Free Lunch.

              • workingclass artist

                agreed….fascist is as fascist does….Whether it’s Adolf and the gang or Benito and his posse….still scary and oh so familiar seeming with the current turn of events….
                Perhaps Il Duce s currently more apt…things that make you go hmmmm…..Trying to find the best fascist comparison for Obama and his New Party apparatus…..( sigh )

    • gregoryp

      Nothing secret about it. I’ve told everyone I know that I am going to vote a straight republican ticket. Voting for another dumbass like Bush just isn’t in the cards. I live in Texas and republican rule has been very good to us the last 10 years. We are doing very well, thank you. Do I need higher taxes? Hell no. Do I need another lying sack of &*(^ in office like we have now? Hell no. And have you checked out how the Democrats have run Congress lately? They are beyond pathetic.

    • s. hall

      Roger — The Democratic Party and The Clintons don’t speak for me. Perhaps you like to march in lock step with your leader I do not. I saw a sham nomination by a party I thought shared my principles. When my party forgot that it was supposed to be neutral they lost me. If you don’t stand for something in life you will go for anything.

    • mahaska

      What’s with the porn star handle? go away

    • mahaska

      In fact, I haven’t noticed that. Not word one from President Bill Clinton.

    • Idiocracy08

      Maybe you weren’t born before 2000. I know a LOT of democrats who said they would have voted for McCain. Over Al Gore.

      At least we know the people of Arizona like him enough to relect him for decades. We don’t even know yet if Obama could get elected to a 2nd term Senate seat without tricks.

      This is a little something called country before party. It’s a good, you should try to feel that way sometime. If you actually accept what has happened in this election, then YOU my friend are the republican. You remember the old glory days of 2000 don’t you? Having a little deja vu? Telling us to get over it again.

      Own your own thoughts. It feels good and empowering.

      • Roger Range

        McCain of 2000 is not the McCain of 2008. The “maverick” got right in line with the Bush regime, and that’s what we’ll get if he’s elected. This time, however, we will be invading a country that actually HAS WMD’s. Bye-bye world.

        • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

          Ya mean Uhhbama and his talk of strikes against Pockeeestahhhn?

          I know it is very naive of Uhhbama to say these things, agree!!

          thats why so many of us are voting for BIG MAC

    • pew

      I haven’t seen either Bill or Hillary do any campaigning,except to raise money.I don’t think you will see either Clinton campaigning for Obama,until after the Convention. And by that time, Bill will be back on the campaign trail for Hillary.

      Hillary for President

    • Newly Independent

      Being called Republicans is no longer an insult, idiot.

  • Dogg

    This is one more argument for a third party, one that represents the interests of the American people even if means offending the rich and the merchants of war. To leave the future of our children in the hands of “leaders” who willingly endanger our democracy and our planet is irresponsible.

    • Dawnelle

      and we’ve been doing it for way too long!

    • s. hall

      dogg — maybe PUMA will lead to a third party movement. God knows we need one. Seems like both parties want to please the rich and no one wants to please the rest of us.

  • Sharon

    …and Clinton supporters are not coming home.

    There’s no home to come to – they burned it to the ground.

    But these arsonists have always had a plan – the “messiah” dramatically and majestically rises from the ashes to bring “hope and change” and a “brave new world!”

    • roseeriter

      The drug companies also market on Hopes and Dreams- just take a pill–so like Obama its all about Fantasy fulfillments.

      NOBAMA!

      • Thinker

        lol

  • Salty

    But he sums up what happened and why the break with the Party will never heal, so well. The lack of diversity IMO at the DNC is and what caused this failed strategy to be adopted the belief that they could use some dog whistle to rally women through grievance, abuse, guilt, shame, the good of the family and fear screams bias and how dumb they are with no clue who their Base was nor did they care. My suggestion put women working class white women to work at the DNC for 12 before the break is not just a swing segment but a permanent rejection of the Party which is coming if they don’t get control of this ignorant bigotry you want to rant about old guard here you have it and add Pelosi to that mix with her just as silly rant.

    My suggestion put some women working class white women to work at the DNC and on the fake rules committee, by the way the largest demographic in the 04 Dem electorate I might add, before 2012 and before the break is not just a swing political sect, but jells as a permanent rejection of the Party which is coming if they don’t get control of this ignorant bigotry, this and the MSM male media are the REAL old guard here and add Pelosi obviously out of touch to that mix with her just as silly elitists rants.

    • basil

      Anyone else notice the RBC is run by AA women?

      Just saying. how is that a fair representation of the American population?

      • Dawnelle

        hey that should NOT be a big dealeo

        but throw in Donna and I always get suspicious

    • Ethan

      Good idea, except that they’ve already written the working class out of the party, along with us old folks.

  • William L. Donlon

    Loved the article!! I’m Just one of 18,000,000 McCainocrats watching the World Series from the bleachers.

    • Dawnelle

      and we can’t find the PROGRAM VENDOR so it’s hard to keep up with the players and their status (whether ON the bus or UNDER the bus)

      hehehaha!

    • kellie

      “18,000,000 McCainocrats”

      So you are suggesting that every single person who voted for Hillary is voting for McCain? hmm…you claims keep getting crazier and crazier.

      • Dave

        Dawnelle’s Mama always said…stupid is as stupid does.

      • s. hall

        kellie — I am one of the McCainocrats going for McCain too. How many McCain Republicans will Obama net? My guess would be zero.

        • kellie
          • txchelle

            RepublicansForObama has 2000 registered members.

            That doesn’t quite balance out PUMA and JustSayNoDeal.

            • kellie

              Well 2000 is certainly more then zero. And I’m sure that the ONLY rebulicans that are voting for Obama are registered on that site. There can’t possibly be more republicans that are voting for him, no way can’t be.

              • txchelle

                You referenced the site in response to how many McCain Republicans Obama will net. If 2000 doesn’t impress you, use better references.

            • I, Bama

              And they’re probably all clustered in solid blue states.

            • slobodaneee

              How many PUMA and JustSayNoDeal members are there anyway? On a side note, the Obama campaign reopened the Raleigh, NC headquarters yesterday. Great crowd and energy. Young and old folks of all races. they were also registering a whole slew of folks. Incredible that they were still so many unregistered folks, but some may be like a Republican, female co-worker of mine who thought during the primary that she could vote for Obama on elections day and was bummed out when told she could not. She voted or Ron Paul as a protest vote. My colleague, unfortunately, really wants Obama to pick Hillary as VP.

          • I, Bama

            HOLY EFF it looks like they’re going to miss the party !

            Aren’t you grateful kellie that those Republicans have crossed party lines to share in the owning of your shitty candidate.

    • HotGreen

      Just one question…Why haven’t the 18,000,000 paid off Hillary’s debt. That dog don’t hunt!

      • kellie

        Haven’t you heard? Hillary raised $2.7 mil in June! AND she only needed to LOAN HER CAMPAIGN $1 mil when she finally dropped out of the primary.

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        dont you TROLLZ get a desk calendar? we started raising money in JULY, that is the month AFTER June

        :0)

  • angie

    The morons in the DNC continue to amaze me. He is confused by my support being conditional? Hey asshole! My support has always been conditional. Yes, I’ve always voted Dem because I believed the party best represented my interests, as well as social justice, the 4th amendment and women’s rights. Now that I know that is not the case, as this criminal primary has exposed, then you don’t have my support. Get over it!

  • yttik

    Thanks for the post, Dr. Lynette. I read your blog and appreciate your words.

    This part kind of sums up my problems with Obama, Fowler complains about people who would “lay down conditions for their support.” Uhm, h-e-l-l-o, elected officials, they work for us. Their very existance is conditional based on our support. The DNC, the media, everybody seems to want to shove Obama down our throats, and we’re all supposed to unconditionally accept him. With no accountability or expectations.

    We’re supposed to ask nothing of Obama, because “change comes from the bottem up” but he’s running for the highest office in the land, so don’t bother him. He plans to be on the top and people at the top don’t make change. “We are the ones we have been waiting for”, so you people are on your own, Obama’s busy with trying to be president. He doesn’t have time to lead. He won’t be getting his hands dirty. You all are the ones you’ve been waiting for, I’m busy trying to eat my waffles.

    Obama, the DNC, the media, half the country is confused. Obama works for us. He serves at the pleasure of the people. Or not I hope. This new attitude they’re trying to force on us is all wrong.

    • K. Wynne

      yttik,

      It’s “nazi-esque” and we should pull out all the stops to keep them from succeeding with their little coup!

    • s. hall

      yttik — I can see it now. Mr. Obama President Sir stutters an aide — there are thousands of people outside–they are homeless, jobless and their banks failed. They need help Sir. Obama — don’t bother me Bro I’m shootin hoops — did you just see that 3 pointer?

  • researchguy66

    Has anyone else noticed that they don’t thnk they need moderate Dems to push Obama over the top? It seems like they’d like to have the money and they’d like a bigger cushion, but they’re absolutely convinced that we’re not necessary for an Obama win.

    That overconfidence to me is a very good sign. When they’re overconfident, they’ll trip all over themselves. I’ll certainly be welcoming Hillary’s “I told you so” tour in February 2008.

    • s. hall

      researchguy — PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL

  • Patti

    I am looking forward to the indictments. I cannot wait for the congressional hearings. This is not a sport or any kind of game. They are not going to get away with it in the end.

    J A I L T I M E ’09

  • DancingOpossum

    Good heavens. Yet ANOTHER nasty Obama adviser revealed. This time it’s Cass Sunstein. I remember reading a lot of Sunstein years ago when I was writing about constitutional issues and always thought he had interesting, if somewhat controversial, positions. I haven’t kept up with him recently and had NO IDEA he fully supported Dubya’s worst crimes. And this dude is one of Obama’s advisors!! I’ll quote from BTD, ever trenchant in his analysis of such matters:

    Sunstein now wishes us all to forget that he fully supported the Bush Administration’s lawlessness. He clearly wants to play a role in a potential Obama Administration. I do object to that possibility. Sunstein has supported the most extreme views of Executive power argued by the Bush Administration. Almost as bad, he has been mendacious about his previous positions, painting himself as in the mainstream of progressive legal thought when he clearly is in the camp of the extreme conservative views on executive power. If Obama wants a Sunstein in his Administration, let’s be clear about what we are getting – not some progressive legal thinker on Executive Power, but someone who hold the most extreme views on the subject, views rejected by the Supreme Court of the United States.

    http://www.talkleft.com

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      guess who CASS just married??

      GUES GUESS!!

      SAMANTHA POWER!!!

      PURRRFECT UHHHBAMA MATCH

      BWAAAAHAAAAAAA

  • vonay

    Fowler, Brazill, POlosi and the rest of the DNC can kiss my a$$.

    I’ve got amessage for them…….We’re NOT voting for your selected, racist, anti american, lying candidate…

    Get over it.

    • Boxer Mum 06

      Our chant:

      “We’re Here .. No Deal .. Get OVER IT!!!”"

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        I LIKE it!

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    “Red Sox fans will never become Yankee fans, and Clinton supporters are not coming home.”

    Amen!! Excellent post!

  • Linda

    This is the letter I sent to them.

    It’s really tiring on our part to keep talking to what appears to be brick walls. You all wouldn’t be making false accusations and using talking points that don’t fit with the ongoing discussion.

    I really don’t know where to begin with your latest comments,

    ” It is time for all Democrats, supporters of Senator Clinton and all other contenders for the nomination, to stand with him to secure his election and the election of Democrats at all levels of competition.

    I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.

    It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion.”

    I can appreciate that those who were pushing Obama wish the rest of us to fall in line, but it doesn’t quite work that way. I’m not a sheep and my vote does need to be earned, whether you like it or not.

    And while discussing fatigue and irritation, woa, you should try being on our end. Especially when I remember watching YOU (a Hillary supporter?) vote to break rules and award delegates to a candidate who wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan and WRONGLY taking them FROM Senator Clinton. The complaining I see coming from you all seem misplaced. And if I remember correctly, it was key members of the DNC that claimed they no longer needed the base of the party, women, working class, ALL minorities and seniors, that you are “the NEW Democratic Party”, so what is all this complaining about?

    And, apparently you’re still confused, because we are not complaining about the primary votes. No, we’re proud of Hillary’s 18 million votes, we’re complaining about the bias to do all possible to influence the nomination process and breaking rules to also reflect the biased outcome. setting precedence in breaking rules and operations, and all this for the least experienced, baggage laden candidate that will cost the Democrats and our country.

    Your analogies with the sports metaphors are all wrong, as I suspect you are fully aware by now. They earned their points to give them the win and worked within the rules and guidelines. OOPS!

    And one final note, even if the DNC tried to reverse their conduct, bias, breaking rules, strong arm tactics, and Hillary is on the Roll Call and Obama still managed to come out of the Convention as the nominee, we still have the choice of not voting for his inexperienced, marketed, bought and created and elitist candidacy.

    You all have made your beds, you must lay in them. I choose country first, unlike what I see from you all. And that is also why I chose for the first time in my voting life (aprox 3 decades) to leave the Democratic Party. I AM a REAL Democrat, but as made clear, the NEW Democratic Party is that of stifling freedom of speech, breaking rules and the Constitution and breaking her founding principles-that I want no part of.

    Thank you for giving me an opportunity to voice my displeasure to the NEW Democratic Party.

    • s. hall

      Linda Well written — The People’s Party has become the Rich People’s Party — As long as they threw us orginal Joes under the bus — let them go find our replacements. Don’t look to the Latte Liberals who loved the idea of an AA President–however some new cause may have caught their fancy. Don’t look to the Youth who are already drifting away — because Obama is too big for his britches. Don’t look the Right Wing who are currently flocking to McCain out of fear of the skinny blow hard. I guess they may have realized that they cannot do this without the Democrats after all. Too Late — we made other plans.

      • Linda

        Thank you.
        And, well said.

        The big problem Barky has now, with the young is they were his early foot soldiers and his support. But they are also our idealistic who strive to accomplish things.

        They did not look at B O ‘s primary as “just politics” as the mature folks did who supported him-for various reasons. So when the young principled and idealisstic got sold out-so quickly by Barky, it matters. And then us other base Dem’s, principled, with integrity, supported Hillary and do not support what Obama IS. Our eyes were open early. Now Obama is losing major key support.

        And our safety net? I’m thinking the same way Tarply is in the most recent article CNN just covered on PUMAs.

        “Tarpley said a McCain victory might be the best result if Obama is the Democratic nominee. It would allow the party an opportunity to reflect and perhaps “radicalize it in a New Deal direction.”

        “I would say McCain is on track to be a tired old lame duck as soon as he gets into office, and he will face a very hostile Congress,” said Tarpley, noting that Democrats are projected to maintain majorities in the House of Representatives and Senate. “I think what you will have is gridlock, and I would say at this point gridlock is about the best you can do.”

        http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/23/preston.puma/index.html?iref=24hours

  • Dan

    I just wanted the author to know, that this article, of all No Quarter articles, sums up best the disenfranchisment my wife and I have experienced with the DNC.

    Where was the vote auditing (especially in the caucuses)? Where was the accountability?

    They just seem to not want to listen. We will not fall into line, we will vote with out feet, as they will soon find out.

    I thought it would be nice to add, that not everyone in Europe is pro-Obama. We here in London hate him.

    • s. hall

      Dan — Great Post. I have family there and thats what they told me. They can’t stand this immature amateur. Take care mate

    • slobodaneee

      Dan,

      You don’t claim to represent everyone in London right? I’m sure many in London like Obama.

  • CarolynKB

    Thanks for the great article.

    Why don’t they understand that each time they attempt to arm twist us into compliance that they drive us further and further away?

    NOBAMA!

    PUMA/JUST SAY NO DEAL

  • Sharon

    I don’t think these chiding DNCers – Brazille, Fowler, Pelosi, all the rest – care in the least whether we “come home” or not. I think it’s all about painting us as a very very few “bitter, sore losers” who just refuse to “get over it.” For the world to see, “party unity exists” except for the oh so few “deadenders” – who “weren’t really democrats to begin with.”

    When they put on their dog-and-pony show in Denver, with the big stadium messiahpalooza and Hillary’s name not in nomination, they will create their Grand Illusion (think THE BIG LIE) of “party unity” that will be touted 24/7 by the obamamedia.

    I have a few guesses about who they’re gonna blame when bambi loses in November, though…

    • Dave

      “I don’t think these chiding DNCers – Brazille, Fowler, Pelosi, all the rest – care in the least whether we “come home” or not. I think it’s all about painting us as a very very few “bitter, sore losers” who just refuse to “get over it.” For the world to see, “party unity exists” except for the oh so few “deadenders” – who “weren’t really democrats to begin with.”

      Wow, that is the most dead-on honest post I’ve seen on this blog. Nailed it!

  • Ed

    I am astounded by the childishness of bitter Clinton supporters. I supported her to- and expected her to win.

    First and foremost, I want Bush and his ilk OUT. I hated John Kerry, but I voted for him. Al Gore was a fool, but I voted for him. Obama is untested and a media darling, but I would vote for him 100 times before voting republican in this critical election! Even Hillary has swallowed the bitter pill and cares more about the party than what could have been her own historic administration.

    You are a bunch of spoiled children who would hand over the White House, the Supreme Court, and in 2 years, congress to those fools who would govern us from an evangelical pulpit!

    • Dawnelle

      and YOU MO RON will hand it over to Jerimiah GOD DAMN Wright, Michelle “I hate America”, Pfleger “hump the pulpit”, Black Liberation Theology “let’s all believe we are the cause of every problem this group can think UP for us”

      NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU VERY MUCH

      take your parlor tricks some where ELSE you punk lying fraud in a cheap suit!

      • Dave

        Don’t mind Dawnelle…her father forgot to give her her morning romp this morning.

        Remember- inbreeding is bad for your health.

        • Changebot 2.1 (now with 20% more hope!)

          I don’t get this Dave why are all the Obama supporters quick to point out any thing resembling racism in any post. but go out of there way to call people hicks, or people that live in the country, Don’t you see anything hypocritical in that?

          • Dave

            1) I don’t agree that “all” Obama supporters point out anything resembling racism in any post.

            2) I do believe there is still PLENTY of racism evident on this blog- from both Obama supporters and detractors.

            3) I was raised with the idea that sometimes some people deserve a taste of their own medicine.

            How’s that work for ya?

            • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

              didnt you ever see Mary Poppins? we need Hillary

              she is our spoonful of sugar, helps the medicine go doownnnn

            • Changebot 2.1 (now with 20% more hope!)

              Not very well Dave sorry.

        • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

          gee Dave, pretty horrific slam there, incest? WTF is that about?

        • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

          awwww poor Dave

          what’s a matter baby? Washington Post turned on your Precious??

          wahhh wahh leave Bawack aloooone..

          BWAAAHAAAAAAA!!!

          Ahh you guys are sooo screwed!!

          BWAAAAHAAAAHAAA!!!

      • kellie

        English isn’t your first language is it?

    • wry

      Why do Obama cultists always use one name? It’s always “Ed” or “Bob” or “Joe” or “Dave”.
      What’s with that?

      • Dawnelle

        Well I’m no damn cultist

        I just use my given name. I’m not as bold as Larry (either one) with the last name!

        not sure about bob or billy bob or bill or joe bob bill

        ;-)

        • wry

          You’re OK with me, Dawnelle. Bots are never named “Dawnelle”…unless it’s Dawnelle Hussein!

      • workingclass artist

        The single name usage is required to simplify translation and tracking by Overseers at the New Party Indoctrination Camps in Gaza…..

        • Dave

          phew…back to normalcy. Been over a week since I was accused of being a Palestinian.

          Hopefully you guys can come to a consensus soon and reveal me for what I really am- a paid Palestinian Obamabot…who’s simultaneously in jail…yet living in my mom’s basement…does a of drugs…and is mocked for being an ‘engineer’ (because they’re STUPID).

          • Changebot 2.1 (now with 20% more hope!)

            LOL Dave Your Like Obama, Everything to everybody.

          • Fred C. Dobbs

            An Engineer?

            Saved up enough from working the drive-up window to buy a Lionel set?

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        i think its from the Gaza script on how to sound American

    • Sharon

      You’re a lying sack o’ sh*t – is this the new bot strategy? Posting on blogs that you “were a Hillary supporter” but that you’ve come to your senses and now PUMAs are “childish?” Too funny…

      If you had been a real Clinton supporter you would know all about what the party and the media and the “Democrats” did to destroy both her candidacy and the party. As a moral imperative no REAL DEMOCRAT (unlike the bots and the DNCers) could ever stand by and allow the party to become all the vile things it has (supposedly) always fought against.

      PUMA!

    • Five Thirty

      Why won’t Senator Obama give press conferences? Why isn’t his campaign transparent?

      • s. hall

        five thirty — Obama knows he can’t handle the competition. If you thought Israel’s best friend was Israel would you want to have McCain laugh at you?

    • eurogirl70

      Oh, you mean the evangelical pulpit that Obama is courting? You mean the Christian rallies starring Donnie McClurkin (of God cured me of my homosexuality?)

      You mean the same Obama that wanted to vote in favor of John Roberts for Supreme Court Chief Justice but was “persuaded” to change his vote by those who told him that such a vote would hurt his presidential aspirations?

      You mean the same Obama who was up on Capital Hill the night of the MoveOn.org condemnation vote but refused to vote at all? (Hillary voted against the condemnation measure)?

      You mean the guy who just voted to give retro active immunity to the telecomms?

      Yeah this is really a “Profile in Courage” moment.

      I find your name-calling “audacious” considering that throughout this election cycle there was one sexist comment after another leveled against Senator Clinton and now all the guys who were calling us female supporters of Senator Clinton bitter, saggy, old harpies and “ho’s” are now concerned about our “reproductive” rights. We women who supported Senator Clinton are smart enough to:

      1. not get pregnant
      2. not have sex with an ass like you

      You are just concerned about the move to the right by the court because the next time you bag yourself a slutty little female Obama supporter and knock her dumbass up, you will be saddled with child support.

      Have fun with your hand!

      • wodiej

        whoo hoo!! YOU GO GIRL!!

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        LOVES IT!!!

        BWWAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!!

        Guess these young Turks better learn to use Birth Control themselves or get vasectomies, snark,

        hey maybe they can get Bawack to come out against the Bush attempt to redefine BC as abortion? there’s an idea! you know trollz like Hillary did…

        hey under Bawack, I hear ‘Fatherhood’ will be a big priority for you irresponsible young sperm donors that impregnate young women…..

        tsk tsk, I like Eurogirl’s method myself, dont sleep with trollz……

        • Fred C. Dobbs

          >>> Guess these young Turks better learn to use Birth Control themselves or get vasectomies, snark,

          Securing vas surgery naturally implies that one has balls (testicles, for the ignorant) for one’s vas deferens to connect.

          Looks to me like most Obamabots’ testicles have not yet descended.

          And, if they have, then why the hell aren’t they in the Army?

    • wodiej

      keep those insults coming…it makes us even more determined to fight on against BO…thanks

    • s. hall

      Ed — well I guess you’re the expert on spoiled children as you watch Obama embarrass us all over the world.

    • MIDem

      Ed, please read Comment by DancingOpossum | 2008-07-23 10:35:14

      It would seem that you are being bamboozled and hoodwinked.

      I might add that anybody that lies about their church and pastor will lie about anything and everything.

      Vote stealing (and rigged elections) is not
      change I can believe in.

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        >>> Vote stealing (and rigged elections) is not change I can believe in.

        No. But it IS the Horseshit we have come to expect.

    • mahaska

      Yeah, and we know—you came here by chance, you have an advanced degree and a black relative. Did I leave anything out?
      Do ya see how tired we are of you the rest of your traveling carnival?

    • Newly Independent

      “First and foremost, I want Bush and his ilk OUT. I hated John Kerry, but I voted for him. Al Gore was a fool, but I voted for him. Obama is untested and a media darling, but I would vote for him 100 times before voting republican in this critical election!”

      You’re an absolute FOOL and compromised idiot for voting for candidates you didn’t (and don’t) believe would be the most qualified for the Presidency.

      You’re a party whore.

      Don’t be pissed at Hillary supporters who refuse to sell out our precious votes for an underqualified, polarizing candidate for “the party.”

  • standard

    The media is fighting us.

    Their strategy is to pretend we do not exist.
    And to give Obama the air of inevitability.

    Obama is already our exalted, dear leader.

    Our challenge is to fan the wisdom from this blog out to the public.

    The public is shut off from knowing that under the perfume cloud is a dumpster of rotting vermin.

  • wry

    Letter I sent to Don Fowler last week (didn’t bother with Alice Germond)

    Dear Mr. Fowler,

    My name is ——. I’ve been a democrat since 1977. I am what’s known (in New York at least) as a triple prime voter, in that I vote in generals, primaries, special AND school board elections. I volunteered for the party a lot when I was young and single. I organized the Hudson Group in New York under the direction of Betsy Blumenthal and Paul Kirk and helped raise quite a bit of money. I’m just telling you this to show you I am in fact a loyal democrat.

    I am not loyal to the current leadership of our party, and I will not vote for Barack Obama. To do so is to say it’s OK that Senator Clinton and President Clinton were maligned the way they were. Obama’s supporters at caucuses, rallies and on the Internet were more obnoxious than any republican I’ve ever encountered. I mean that. They were worse than I’ve ever encountered from the Republicans, and I’ve worked against Al D’Amato among others so that’s saying a lot.

    I copied below a response to your e mail today on the TALKING POINTS MEMO web site. It is, sadly, very typical of the kind of abuse those who question Obama’s experience and qualifications are subject to. Again, this is not an extreme example, it’s typical. Women like me who gave our best years to this party during difficult times, when the only victory we had was Bill Clinton’s, are now told we’re old, fat and “menopausal”. President Bill Clinton, whom I revere, is now a racist – and part of the Bush/Clinton Era…because these arrogant young people don’t know the difference between the two.

    I know the difference, Mr. Fowler, and I cherish those memories from when we elected, then reelected, Bill Clinton, and life was so good in this Country. I got married, bought a house, had a baby and turned my attention to life beyond politics for a while.

    It’s disheartening to find today that I am only in my 40′s but I’m irrelevant to this party, and subject to a scolding letter from you and Alice Germond. Ms. Germond should know I marched for Abortion Rights in DC in 1989, so I don’t need 24 year old boys lecturing me about “choice” and the dire consequences of not falling in line.” Better than the Republican” is not good enough for me any more. And the Republican Party isn’t threatening, scolding and mocking me as Barack Obama’s new and improved DNC feels compelled to do.

    Barack Obama is an under qualified media creation and I’m not voting for him. I’ve already been called a Republican so many times I own the insult, and expect I’ll be called a racist as well ( although, on a personal note, my husband is bi-racial like Obama…they even look alike ). Racial pride aside, my husband is not voting for Obama either. He had too many friends die in the World Trade Center tragedy to ever forgive giving $27,000 to a church who’s minister believes that day was nothing more than chickens coming home to roost.

    Thank you for your service to our party and, by extension, this country. I hope we meet again someday when the spell is broken and life returns to normal.

    Sincerely,

    New York

    FROM TALKING POINTS MEMO

    The problem is not on Obama’s side. The problem is the Hillary-wacks. They need to decide: Are they democrats or not? If so, stop the fucking whining. If not, get the fuck out of Dodge.

    Obama needs to focus on McCain, not on the traitors behind him. We need a unified party, and if you are not willing to be part of the unified party, then GET YOUR ASS OUT OF HERE, and FAST! We are SERIOUSLY TIRED of WHINING HILLARY-WACKS.
    Posted by dataguy
    July 19, 2008

    • Arabella Trefoil

      Ooo. I love this letter.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      Oh wry!!! wundebar! Love it madly and am crushin on you now!!

      BOOYAH NY!!

      WooT!!

      HILLARY OR MCCAIN

    • Kickass Old Lady

      Beautifily written, wry. Thank you

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ whoframedrudy

    We’ve all heard the expression ‘no good options’ in Iraq. Hillary and Bill have no good options in this election — so they ‘support’ Obama like they ‘supported’ the Defense of Marriage Act. Like Hillary ‘supported’ the war.

    I didn’t agree with Hillary’s ‘support’ for DOMA. I didn’t agree with her Iraq War Vote. And I don’t agree with her endorsement of Barack W. Bush. But I still support her, on balance, overwhelmingly.

    Between a Republican and a qualified Democrat, I’ll vote Democratic.

    Between a qualified, honest Republican and an Unqualified Democrat Liar, I’ll vote Republican.

    • Dawnelle

      Between a qualified, honest Republican and an Unqualified Democrat Liar, I’ll vote Republican.

      Exactly! Why is that so hard for SOME to comprehend?

      • Roger Range

        Too bad there aren’t any honest, qualified Republicans running.

        • Newly Independent

          John McCain definitely is.

          Since you Obama zombies don’t need us Hillary “dead-enders”, you really need to get the f— out of here.

      • kellie

        “Between a qualified, honest Republican and an Unqualified Democrat Liar, I’ll vote Republican.”

        HONEST!!!??? Please I beg you! You need to start going to other websites besides No Quarter for your news. HONEST!!??? His own party doesn’t think he’s honest!(and by his own party I mean your party of course)

    • workingclass artist

      Well said and your moniker…whoframedrudy gave me a chuckle…thanks…

    • s. hall

      whoframedrudy — well said

    • pew

      I think Clinton by announcing she will run in 2012,is telling everyone,what she thinks of Obama.imo this is an insult to Obama, and I’m happy she is spreading the word.What a classy lady,to defend the Democrats.

      Clinton or Mccain for President

      • kellie

        When did she announce she was running in 2012? God, you’d think that would be big news…oh well!

        • workingclass artist

          Ehemmm…..Kellie you should tell the overseers at the Indoctrination Camp to get Troll a faster connection or at least expand the access in Gaza….Or perhaps the heat is getting to your head ?
          HRC is building the site….Plans in operation….GIVE IT UP AS YOU ARE IN OVER YOUR HEAD….sheeeesh! I demand better quality trolls…Makes me miss Kevin……

          • mahaska

            Hey, dial up’s a bitch.

      • slobodaneee

        She she running for reelection to Senate? If its for pres she can give it a rest. You can’t see the big picture can you? The caucus states will still be there. Hill’s comments about how unfair they are, etc. will come back to bite her. Her democratic opponent will have a large built primary voter base of ex-Obama supporters, particularly if it can be shown you PUMA folks voted for McCain and cost the dems the election. Well … lets hope it doesn’t come to that and Obama wins. Hill can stay in the senate where she will remain a powerful junior senator.

        • slobodaneee

          damn too many typos …

    • mr. natural

      I didn’t agree with her Iraq War Vote.

      Y’know how I think of that AUMF vote?

      As a vote screwing up the lives of 27 million Iraqis and two million American soldiers.

      Yeah, it sucked.

      But y’know what sucks more?

      Obama’s failure to give a damn about FISA

      Because that vote screwed up the Constitution and the lives of 300 million people.

  • galsforhill

    in a local paper this weekend donna brazile wrote a note to hillary’s holdouts. it’s time to unify as one party. how many ways do hillary supporters need to hear it before they get it. it goes on and on about how much respect they showed hillary before supporting obama. i guess she forgets we watched c-span. we need to pick ourselves up and respect obama and the fact that he won. it wasn’t her time period.
    can’t we come together for the greater good? if not we’ll get exackly what we deserve. thats a real short version of what she said. i’m over it. i moved on. if not hillary then mccain. i think she needs to get over it, and will get exackly what she deserves.

    • s. hall

      galsforhill — they will use ever tactic in the book because they need the 10 Million Hillary Dems to win. Why is McCain courting us? 10 Million people are 10 Million voters. Right now McCain is getting 86% of Republican Voters — Obama 77% of Democrats. With 14% of Hillary supporters–we pick the winner.

    • pew

      Puma’s must be affecting the money situation for the dems’s in order for them to be sending out all these news clippings.Are the Dem’s feeling the heat. Hope the Puma Movement is working.

      Go Clinton

  • William L. Donlon

    Hillary won!! End of Story.
    I WILL vote for McCain because I want to not only with hold my vote from Obama, I want to cost them an additional vote to nullify mine.

    If all 18,000,000 “Red Sox” fans did the same it would cost the DNC 36,000 000 votes to break even.

    There is no way they can win with out us and they will get slaughtered if we work against them.

    We need to take the party back in 08 and position it for 2012.

    We need to change the Party leadership and that means we must deal them a smashing defeat in November.

    We also need to go after our enemies in the MSM like Keith and Mathews.

    The All Male, Good Old Boy sexist Media needs to be attacked and changed for good, and it needs to be done before the Off year elections in 2010.

    We know what needs to be done, let’s get to it.

    No retreat and no surrender!!!

    PUMA IN DENVER!

    PUMA IN NOVEMBER!

    I’m Bill Donlon, I’m a PUMACRAT, and I wrote this message.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      I am ginaswo, 20 year Dem (up and downticket), and I too support this message

      HILLARY OR MCCAIN

      • Bye bye Obambi

        I am a 25 year Dem, also up and down ticket, and I agree. Hillary or McCain 08!

      • s. hall

        Im S Hall — I likewise approve this message.

  • Annie Oakley

    Thank you, Dr. Long. This article sums it up perfectly. I don’t know why the DNC is having such a hard time coming to grips with the fact that they have screwed up. Not only have they driven this life-long Democrat away, I can’t see coming back anytime soon. Thank you, again.

    Senator Clinton was the first significant female candidate to run for the presidency and her nomination was stolen by a corrupt party.

  • wodiej

    These people have no friggin’ tact. Ya get more flies w honey than vinegar. You don’t tell angry voters to quit “carping, complaining and criticizing” if you want them on your side. Another sure sign of stupidity.

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      DING! DING! DING!

      We have a WINNER!!!

  • http://www.lezident.com Lezident

    Never before in my adult life have I ever not voted for the Democratic nominee. You can thank Obama for that.

    Obama is not who he says he is.

    http://lezident.com

    • Bye bye Obambi

      Maybe I’ll write to Michelle Obama and say “For the first time in my adult life I am not a Democrat. For the first time in my adult life I am ashamed of the Democratic Party”

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        I was thinking of writing Sasquatch MEchelle and saying that, for the first time in MY life,, since seeing and hearing her, I can see that many, many White Supremecists have a point, and that, thanks to her opening up my eyes, I was contributing $20,000 to start a movement to make sure that every school library in America has at least 5 copies of The Turner Diaries.

        • workingclass artist

          Gasp….sputter….guffaw….and gaggle….Fred you have got to do standup.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    thank you Dr Long

    Hill floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee!

    I grew up at Daddys knee watching Ali fight, and I love your metaphor here..

    This was a fixed match and the ref was crooked, no unity without Democracy!

    HILLARY IS POTUS

  • Denise

    One of Barack Obama’s strongest Congressional supporters may not even be a resident of the district he has represented in Congress. Robert Wexler, a Democrat, is being accused by his Republican opponent in an upcoming election of “playng a residency shell game”, saying Wexler pretends to keep an address in Florida while “flagrantly” making his home in Maryland. As a Florida “resident”, Wexler apparently pays no state income tax, while living with his family in Maryland, which does have a state income tax.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/residency_issues.html

    • Idiocracy08

      And he took away 1/2 their vote.

    • pew

      Wonder how his parents friends are looking at them now. Only a matter of time,and Puma’s will be throughout Florida.

      Hope this newsrelease hit Florida papers

  • rjj

    Is some Republican advising these people on how to handle the hoi polloi?

    They spend 8 years cringing at and groveling to the regimists then imagine they have the authority to order their membership to get in line.

    So. Nobody liked my troupe of Nancy Pelosi impersonators idea?

    • Kickass Old Lady

      I loved it. I just can’t bear the idea of botoxing up and dumbing down for the role, though.

      • mahaska

        hahahahahahahaaha

  • Salty

    This attempt by Dem and DNC Officials to treat a mostly white female estranged demographic Base with these old guard political stunts of psychological dog whistled is hysterical, foolish and insulting. Ah memo to DNC guilt, shame, abusive name callings, use of dismissive emotional instability rationalization are not grievances empowered women will ever respond that nose ring will never work as this the one demographic that has done that been there those stereo types of women the co enabling types probably are not Dems apparently picking up the RNC tactics you failed to perform a culture assessment and understand that’s the wrong Base for such tricks to work.

    How about good ole boys like Fowler retire and how about preparing the DNC for 2012 and the future by diversifying and placing into power representatives from the largest voting Base demographic, white female working women, in the majority of the power position and certainly one or two on that fake rules committee and maybe, just maybe 2012 will put a PUMA or maybe a Dem in the White House.

    Divided governance is my goal in 08.

  • Tricia

    Donna Brazille and the new DNC party were very clear that they didn’t need us- They argued that they had the new coalition of blacks and young voters- Great – we heard you loud and clear Donna – now you are going to get what you deserve – a Republican President. I personally don’t have any qualms with that- he is a true patriot and I respect him for that- he has core beliefs and is an experienced leader with plent of foreign policy and natural security credentials. What does O have – zero!

  • TimNCGuy

    when will the DNC and the Obama supporters ever figure out that Clinton supporters don’t NEED them. They NEED us. They have this all backwards. they expect us to kiss their a$$es when they should be kissing ours.

    I have made my decision. I will vote for Obama if he names Clinton VP. There is nothing else that will change my mind.

    You can’t threaten me with the evil of McCain or the importance of the Supreme Court. Should have thought of that before you ran the primary the way you did.

    Obama is being given the nomination for one and only one reason. His false charges of racism made against the Clintons.

  • s. hall

    IF YOU STAND FOR NOTHING YOU WILL BY ANYTHING.

    PUMA 08

  • untilthelastdogdies

    Obama won 93% (13 out of 14) of the caucuses and only 46% (18 out of 39) of the primaries. It is impossible to explain the disparity in primary vs. caucus results due to superior organization or demographics alone.

    Therein lies the rub!

    Red Sox fans will never become Yankee fans, and Clinton supporters are not coming home.

    You can sure take that to the bank!

    Your overall boxing analogy is by far superior.

    It looks like Don was a little intimidated by the big wheels on that bus.

  • DAB

    Maturity requires seeing reality as it is. I would say that applies to PUMAs rather than the hyper-emotional graspers at the hem of “faux-messiah”.

    The frenzy surrounding Obama reminds me of that scene from Tommy where the Marilyn Monroe statue is wheeled into the church and the idolatry begins in full force. And you call that mature? Believe me, BO is no Tommy who was the real thing. And he’s no JFK either — just another Marilyn stand in.

    • MIDem

      or a combo Paris Hilton and Sanjaya.

  • JML

    Everytime I’m told to “get over it” about the primary, it reminds me of when I’m really ticked off about something and some patronizing a-hole tells me to “calm down.” I hate that.

    Also, to the charges that no Democrat would ever vote for McCain, I’ve contended for some time now that OBAMA, not McCain, is more like George W of the two presumptive nominees. We’ve already had 8 years of some swaggering, inexperienced, self-important, messiah-complexed, ill-advised, entitled, self-described “outsider” know-nothing. Look what that got us.

    • Fred C. Dobbs

      Well, carp if you must, but remember:

      HE KEPT OUR BOYS OUT OF NORTHERN IRELAND!

  • Postmaster

    Hey, Don Fowler, I got so far over it that I’m voting McCain. BTW, Mr. Fowler, you’re starting to make my butt tired with your ‘demands’.

  • pew

    Comments like Get Over It and change Change Change is Farakhan’s words and Obama’s language scary!!!!

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=9319375

  • Dr Felter

    Obama – Walking Eagle

    I thought the lively NQ crowd would not want to miss this wonderful story copied from the http://www.hcsfjm.com website

    name: kinthenorthwes
    message: Thought you might enjoy this ed
    WALKING EAGLE
    BARACK OBAMA was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian Nation two weeks ago in upstate New York
    HE spoke for almost an hour on HIS future plans for increasing every Native American’s present standard of living, should HE one day become the President. HE referred to his career as a Senator, how he had signed ‘YES’ for every Indian issue that came to his desk for approval. Although the Senator was vague on the details of his plan, he seemed most enthusiastic about his future ideas for helping his ‘red sisters and brothers’.
    At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented the Senator with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name – Walking Eagle. The proud Senator then departed in his motorcade, waving to the crowds.
    A news reporter later inquired to the group of chiefs of how they came to select the new name given to the Senator. They explained that Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.

    • workingclass artist

      Gasp….sputter….guffaw……that is too funny Doc…..

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I have no sympathy for the Democratic Party, Obama campaign, the DNC, or any other major Obama supporter who runs into resistence from former Hillary supporters. They may call me sore loser or whatever they wish.

    The facts are the facts. They redefined the primary process to favor Obama. They absolutely called for her to get out of the race unfairly. They have shown extremely poor judgment in how they have handled the unity drive.

    And they reap the consequences of their own actions.

    I hope they continue to bully people. It absolutely shows the mentality of the people who pushed this solution.

    I continue to feel deep pride that I am NOT a part of this “new” Democratic Party.

    • imustprotest

      I totally agree with you AnninCa…I feel confident that I am on the right side of this issue. No matter what happens I’m proud of my choice not to support this “new” Democratic party nor it’s selected, not elected “nominee”.

  • http://noquarter Pinay 46

    I must confess I am quite ” irritated and fatigued” by the DNC’s call for me to “fall in line” and to “get over it.” I own my vote and put my country first before political affiliation. Hillary or McCain!

  • Buzz Latte

    I don’t care what furballs of unity baiting Donna Brazile, et al, gack up. No one in my household is voting for Obama.

    Everyone would vote for Clinton.

    Everyone will vote for McCain if Barfbag Ovomit is the DNC nominee.

    It’s really very simple, isn’t it?

    PUMA

    • Arabella Trefoil

      “fur balls of Unity” – That’s good.

    • workingclass artist

      ehemmm….Question…..Did those Fur Balls of unity come of that dead animal Donna Brazeeeal has on her head or do they originate from the Great Oppossum….Hmmmm….

      • Buzz Latte

        Oh definitely her head. That is some nasty shyt alright. Thought it looked like very dirty cotton candy, but, yeah, skanky fur is more like it.

  • Thinker

    Well-said Dr. Long!!!

    This only round 1 and this is far from over.

    We will NOT fall in line.

    The DNC primary was a fraud, and statements by Don Fouler only adds fuel to the fire.

    Hillary 08

  • DancingOpossum

    LOL….I nominate Fred C. Dobbs as New Party Chairman of anything….Man you make me laugh….

    I second AND third that! Fred C. is one of the funniest posters anywhere.

    But workingclass, you are no slouch. Your series on “Top 10 Reasons ___ Should Vote for Obama” was a minor masterpiece.

    • workingclass artist

      Why…( surprised ) thanks…..the posters at NQ inspire…..even when Obama is having a ho-hum day….no?

      • Fred C. Dobbs

        Yeah, wca…feeding you straight lines and setups is hard work…

  • cathnealon

    “Get over it” only makes us Clinton supporters stronger. They invalidated us on May 31st and now we will invalidate their chosen one by never voting for him. If not Hillary, McCain 08. We will not forget what the RBC did in perverting the democratic process that we have fought for and others have died for. Just move on, get over it Fowler, 18 million of us have already decided.

  • mimi

    Let me see if I understand this correctly:

    The DNC actually believes that this approach is going to get us to vote for Obama?

    Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

    Now that I’ve had a good laugh this is my actual response, my heels were dug in months ago. Comments like this only harden the concrete around them. Under no circumstances am I voting for Obama. I wouldn’t care if Hillary and Bill both got down on their knees and begged me, it won’t make any difference. So they might as well spare themselves the embarassment.

    I now realize that only the Election Day results are going to get these knuckleheads to get it.

    THEY CHOSE THE WRONG CANDIDATE!

    They cheated! Lied! Strong-armed the process and pretty much pissed in our faces while telling us it was rain. There is no way this loyal Democrat since ’68 is going to reward their behavior with my vote.

    To carry this insult further by thinking they could make an analogy to democracy with the sports world only confirms what I discovered this Primary Season: the Democratic Leadership is filled with fools.

    Our Democracy is sacred. Elections and the right to choose are the fruits of American Democracy. You don’t steal people’s votes and then insult them by imposing your will on voters who are citizens of this democracy. That this is happening and that the Democrats are a party to it, has finally solidified something many of us in this country have known for a long time: We need a new Party.

    Right now, if I were the Party leadership, I’d be very afraid. They are on the road to perdition. We are not the ones who need to ‘get it.’ They are!

    I haven’t been posting much lately but I read everyday. Frankly, the trolls are way past their expiration date. I’m not in the mood right now to mix it up with idiots. The only reason they’re here is because they are scared shitless that this one website represents tens of thousands.

    And guess what?

    It does.

    There are many out there who feel exactly as I do, but who are not Internet creatures. And in November, they are going to do exactly what I’m going to:

    Vote for McCain.

    Between now and Nov is an eternity. A sink hole filled with Obama gaffes and missteps. And the quiet ones will be watching and waiting to cast their votes.

    I feel absolutely nothing for the Democratic Party.

    They are dead to me. The committed suicide by not realizing that they just couldn’t pull a fast one like this and not feel the wrath of their membership.

    Obama and his gang of thugs deserve whatever comes their way from here on.

    I am simply watching and waiting. And certainly no amount of telling me to “Get over it” is going to make an impact.

    As always, Obama will have to:

    WIN WITHOUT ME!

    PS

    It’s the end of July. Shouldn’t it be apparent by now that we’re not going to budge? These people are really stupid.

    • imustprotest

      Well said!

    • mahaska

      Am I reading the rest of you guys right? I was the kid that always wandered away from the field trip.
      Sound familiar. I do what I want and nobody tells me who I must vote for.

  • workingclass artist

    Once again Mimi….you have nailed it…

  • Buzz Latte

    Right after Clinton suspended her campaign, I got a questionaire from the DNC wanting to know my thoughts on where the party should go from there.

    I did mention hell.

    However, on each question I said I couldn’t answer it because they had selected the wrong candidate.

    Now, they want us to behave. Fat chance of that!

    The DNC can’t even begin to assess the damage from selecting Obama. Three million PUMAS is a conservative estimate. 77,000 members on hcsfjm.com, alone.
    15% of dems becoming republicans or independents.

    The Obama scenario is the worst case senario for the DNC. But, hey, the DNC deserves defeat.

  • andar909

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