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		<title>By: lark</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37407/the-incredible-shrinking-jobs-america/#comment-1283979</link>
		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are wrong here Dolcelder. Wrong in the sense that there is a difference between Indian and Chinese and American workers. Forigners learn to solve problems at school because many of their natural ways of life and culture are complicated and require memorization and practice skills. American students are now accustomed to not learning anything in school, just going over the subject matter, and having to make zero effort to pass from one grade to another. Like Obama, all that is required is to be &quot;PRESENT.&quot; Eventually, manufacturers and technology industries that require people savvy in problem solving become scarce. Manufacturers and technology companies can hire incompetent workers for a while, but eventually the incompetence start to hurt them badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are wrong here Dolcelder. Wrong in the sense that there is a difference between Indian and Chinese and American workers. Forigners learn to solve problems at school because many of their natural ways of life and culture are complicated and require memorization and practice skills. American students are now accustomed to not learning anything in school, just going over the subject matter, and having to make zero effort to pass from one grade to another. Like Obama, all that is required is to be &#8220;PRESENT.&#8221; Eventually, manufacturers and technology industries that require people savvy in problem solving become scarce. Manufacturers and technology companies can hire incompetent workers for a while, but eventually the incompetence start to hurt them badly.</p>
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		<title>By: lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is correct. Now what does that mean to kindergarten students? 

I believe that a new curriculum needs to be designed and implemented that explains in detail to elementary, middle and high school students the meaning of globalization. It means that if they are unable to learn to compute quadratic equations, the inventions will be all outsourced to foreign countries and they would have to be happy with gouging American consumers with false claims of service costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is correct. Now what does that mean to kindergarten students? </p>
<p>I believe that a new curriculum needs to be designed and implemented that explains in detail to elementary, middle and high school students the meaning of globalization. It means that if they are unable to learn to compute quadratic equations, the inventions will be all outsourced to foreign countries and they would have to be happy with gouging American consumers with false claims of service costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is creating jobs. Jobs in China and jobs in India. Wait and see if the end result of healthcare reform isn&#039;t that doctors won&#039;t be able to afford to train here with the high cost of education and also work here with the controlled reimbursement. So, we will have our doctors trained in India from now on where it is cheaper. Less high paying jobs for us, and more money being sent &quot;home&quot; and out of our national economy. We are being globalized is what is happening here. This goes beyond jobs. America itself is being deconstructed before our eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is creating jobs. Jobs in China and jobs in India. Wait and see if the end result of healthcare reform isn&#8217;t that doctors won&#8217;t be able to afford to train here with the high cost of education and also work here with the controlled reimbursement. So, we will have our doctors trained in India from now on where it is cheaper. Less high paying jobs for us, and more money being sent &#8220;home&#8221; and out of our national economy. We are being globalized is what is happening here. This goes beyond jobs. America itself is being deconstructed before our eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
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		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great chart but it is frightening considering it affects our jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great chart but it is frightening considering it affects our jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Docelder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Docelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;outsourcing to India and China workers, either overseas or in the US via H1-B visas, has picked up at the expense of age-35-plus&lt;/blockquote&gt; Yes, even the people who made prudent career choices and who have worked hard their entire lives are at risk from India and China here. This is what I was saying in another thread. India and China aren&#039;t outperforming us, they are just at a competitive advantage with us with the cost of labor. On the contrary, they aren&#039;t as skilled as U.S. workers are, they just work cheap. The skilled services are seeing the same bloodshed that the manufacturing sector faced. The end result of this will be a homogenized world, everywhere the rate of a days labor will be the same. Is this what we want? It doesn&#039;t matter what we want. Nobody listens to us anymore, they don&#039;t need to. We are voiceless, so whatever Nancy wants I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>outsourcing to India and China workers, either overseas or in the US via H1-B visas, has picked up at the expense of age-35-plus</p></blockquote>
<p> Yes, even the people who made prudent career choices and who have worked hard their entire lives are at risk from India and China here. This is what I was saying in another thread. India and China aren&#8217;t outperforming us, they are just at a competitive advantage with us with the cost of labor. On the contrary, they aren&#8217;t as skilled as U.S. workers are, they just work cheap. The skilled services are seeing the same bloodshed that the manufacturing sector faced. The end result of this will be a homogenized world, everywhere the rate of a days labor will be the same. Is this what we want? It doesn&#8217;t matter what we want. Nobody listens to us anymore, they don&#8217;t need to. We are voiceless, so whatever Nancy wants I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Rama Ramen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37407/the-incredible-shrinking-jobs-america/#comment-1283948</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Rama Ramen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among my friends, I&#039;m just one of several unemployed and a dozen others employed at temp jobs paying half what those individuals made last year in permanent positions.

What we&#039;re seeing in our high-tech field is not that the total number of jobs is shrinking dramatically, but that outsourcing to India and China workers, either overseas or in the US via H1-B visas, has picked up at the expense of age-35-plus (20-30 years from retirement, raising families, not at death&#039;s door) citizens.  This, combined with no increase in the total number of jobs, means more unemployment for citizens who in some cases spent 6 or more years at university to qualify to work in their field.  Seems to me, given that more and more citizens and permanent residents are out of work, that it&#039;s time to provide incentives to business to hire people who are already here, and disincentives to bring in more overseas workers.  I&#039;m not saying that the march toward globalization needs to stop, just that it needs to slow down and give the economy and labor force a chance to catch up with the new reality.

As another poster points out, this is no longer FDR&#039;s America.  It&#039;s a more complicated one, because we can&#039;t control what&#039;s happening outside our borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among my friends, I&#8217;m just one of several unemployed and a dozen others employed at temp jobs paying half what those individuals made last year in permanent positions.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re seeing in our high-tech field is not that the total number of jobs is shrinking dramatically, but that outsourcing to India and China workers, either overseas or in the US via H1-B visas, has picked up at the expense of age-35-plus (20-30 years from retirement, raising families, not at death&#8217;s door) citizens.  This, combined with no increase in the total number of jobs, means more unemployment for citizens who in some cases spent 6 or more years at university to qualify to work in their field.  Seems to me, given that more and more citizens and permanent residents are out of work, that it&#8217;s time to provide incentives to business to hire people who are already here, and disincentives to bring in more overseas workers.  I&#8217;m not saying that the march toward globalization needs to stop, just that it needs to slow down and give the economy and labor force a chance to catch up with the new reality.</p>
<p>As another poster points out, this is no longer FDR&#8217;s America.  It&#8217;s a more complicated one, because we can&#8217;t control what&#8217;s happening outside our borders.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush 1 was ridiculed for being unfamilar with grocery prices.
That was harmless compared to what this historic President is ignorant about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush 1 was ridiculed for being unfamilar with grocery prices.<br />
That was harmless compared to what this historic President is ignorant about!</p>
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		<title>By: AF catfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>AF catfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash for Clunkers - um ... did this really help the economy long-term? 

Now it&#039;s &quot;Cash for Caulkers&quot;? Can we say ... intellectual laziness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash for Clunkers &#8211; um &#8230; did this really help the economy long-term? </p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s &#8220;Cash for Caulkers&#8221;? Can we say &#8230; intellectual laziness?</p>
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		<title>By: Banned in Beantown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banned in Beantown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thaks for that. It is nice the see the lack of experience quantified and compared to previous administrations. 

Turns out, it really is not just our alarmist imaginations, the Obama cronies really are clueless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thaks for that. It is nice the see the lack of experience quantified and compared to previous administrations. </p>
<p>Turns out, it really is not just our alarmist imaginations, the Obama cronies really are clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.american.com/?p=7572&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An interesting chart making the rounds.&lt;/a&gt;

The lack of leadership skills of BO combined with the fact his cabinet has very little private sector experience do not bode well for the unenjoyment lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.american.com/?p=7572" rel="nofollow">An interesting chart making the rounds.</a></p>
<p>The lack of leadership skills of BO combined with the fact his cabinet has very little private sector experience do not bode well for the unenjoyment lines.</p>
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		<title>By: wbboei</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37407/the-incredible-shrinking-jobs-america/#comment-1283781</link>
		<dc:creator>wbboei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very accurate assessment.  Not what you will hear from the Obama worshiping big media, but the truth of the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very accurate assessment.  Not what you will hear from the Obama worshiping big media, but the truth of the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37407/the-incredible-shrinking-jobs-america/#comment-1283769</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems in keeping with this article, that my local school district has decided to shorten the school year by a week. This will apparently save the district 500k. I do not &quot;blame&quot; the school district, in that the state is punk ass broke.

It just seems that educating our children is a priceless endeavor. Along with prolonged joblessness comes the end of hope. Hope doesn&#039;t feed a family, it won&#039;t educate our children, it won&#039;t keep our elderly alive.

Now the the jobless parents can spend some quality time with their school-less prodigy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems in keeping with this article, that my local school district has decided to shorten the school year by a week. This will apparently save the district 500k. I do not &#8220;blame&#8221; the school district, in that the state is punk ass broke.</p>
<p>It just seems that educating our children is a priceless endeavor. Along with prolonged joblessness comes the end of hope. Hope doesn&#8217;t feed a family, it won&#8217;t educate our children, it won&#8217;t keep our elderly alive.</p>
<p>Now the the jobless parents can spend some quality time with their school-less prodigy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess slashing spending by the government to force people to invest in something other the government bonds did not cross their mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess slashing spending by the government to force people to invest in something other the government bonds did not cross their mind.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last post did not go through. What is going on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last post did not go through. What is going on here.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess slashing spending by the government to force people to invest in something other the government bonds did not cross their mind. 

It is not that far away when they will have no choice but to do just that. Next week we will hit 12.1 Trillion deficit and this is only manageable because the US Treasury is issuing short term debt at 0 per.cent int.rest. The estimates are that it will hit 10 before to long. How in the hell will they pay a 1.2 Trillion interest bill. That is not mentioning that Medicare is now drawing on its funds at about 500 billion a year. 

Unfortunately the party is over. They might be able to delay it an other year maybe two but we all better get ready for high unemployment, gas and food shortages and an ever growing uneducated population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess slashing spending by the government to force people to invest in something other the government bonds did not cross their mind. </p>
<p>It is not that far away when they will have no choice but to do just that. Next week we will hit 12.1 Trillion deficit and this is only manageable because the US Treasury is issuing short term debt at 0 per.cent int.rest. The estimates are that it will hit 10 before to long. How in the hell will they pay a 1.2 Trillion interest bill. That is not mentioning that Medicare is now drawing on its funds at about 500 billion a year. </p>
<p>Unfortunately the party is over. They might be able to delay it an other year maybe two but we all better get ready for high unemployment, gas and food shortages and an ever growing uneducated population.</p>
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