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If You Tell The Truth, You Are Rude….

winking-cougar-print-c10054490.jpgA very good friend of mine from Nigeria always had a saying, “If you tell the truth, then you are rude.” This always applied in the context of not being as political or as diplomatic in a work setting as one might be; but I think it really applies to what is happening right now with Obama and his Obamanation or The Borg Collective, as I like to call the “messiah’s” movement that has almost completely assimilated the MSM as of today.

I guess I’m about to be very, very, VERY, abysmally rude.

I’ve said this before and I will continue to say it.

It is time to put the welfare of this great country ahead of whatever agenda the DNC has with getting Barack Obama elected…or did you lose control of him when he moved your headquarters to Chicago? Did you forget that he was groomed in one of the most corrupt political systems in America; Chicago?

Personally, I would like to know what that agenda is, because, in my humble opinion, what we have been told is not the truth. What is it DNC? You want to be the ones that say “we are more progressive; we nominated and tried to elect the First Black President.” Barack Obama is not going to make our lives better or get our soldiers out of Iraq. The Borg Prince is all about being a consumer and trading up.

Obama has said numerous politically expedient comments like he would filibuster FISA and then turned around and voted for the continued spying on American citizens, just to name one. His tango movement to the right has been all about control. Was Don and Alice’s letter a cry for help? If you have fallen victim to the Borg Collective, PUMAs are here to help. We are all about the Koolaid detox process and helping those that want to join PUMA and Just Say No Deal. If he double-crossed you, (and you know who you are), and you are running scared, then we will help you as long as you put Hillary’s name into nomination and kick his sorry butt to the curb. Oh, Wow, did I say all of that out loud?

What did we start with; the questions Obama wouldn’t allow to be asked and then move onto (still) not producing true, viable vital records, a 75,000-seat stadium for his worship and to scare the bejesus out of the delegates, and now we have a speech about a civilian army that is as numerous, well trained and well funded as our military. Why? Is there a threat of attack that we need to have a standing army here, armies in two nations, and troops all over the world….or is this army to control us, the American people. That’s going to go over as well as a tourette’s syndrome episode in church. I know, I know, being waaaaay rude over here.

The Borg Prince is now trying to sell himself to the Democrats, Independents, Republicans, Green, Libertarians…etc., and quite a few Americans are not having any of it. He is using Marketing 101 by making all his greatest weaknesses look like strengths. Obama is on his first rock star world tour to make his lack of experience in foreign affairs look like a fact finding mission that he should have been doing all along. He is hoping to achieve the required marketed results from this stagecraft production; namely an increase in his ever decreasing poll numbers. Where is that 20 point lead he should have by now? Sitting squarely in the PUMA’s camp.

Do not let the Borg Collective assimilate you. Obama has lost that tiny bump he gained when Clinton suspended and now is trying desperately to create a facade of upright leadership, experience, good judgement….yada, yada, yada. He is trying to create momentum out of thin air, because he has nothing to offer the American people….nothing but what he offers while he campaigns…an empty chair.

UPDATE: 7/22/08: According to Rasmussen, John McCain now leads Barack Obama by 10 points in the SWING State of Ohio. So much for getting the rest of the world to elect our next president.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    We know you will do the right thing SDs, Hillary is the one who will win and get us back on track to peace and prosperity. We cannot and will not elect the self annointed one.
    ______________________________________
    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

  • PGraber

    And while BHO is traveling around the world, trying to convince everyone that he is capable of running the United States of America, Hillary Clinton is here in the United States working on issues to improve the lives of the citizens of the United States of America. She leads the country with her heart and mind. BHO “tries” to lead the country with his EGO.

    God protect us from his EGO.

  • RunningDogLackey

    I see Larry’s still pimping the “civilian national security force” booga-booga. I guess he assumes none of you have access to Google.

    NICE kitty picture, though.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I’m in agreement in part. I do think the election was engineered behind the scenes, with well-placed remarks by the AA congressmen and Obama supporters who lied to the public repeatedly and called for unprecedented actions.

    I’m furious.

    However, I do not believe it’s appropriate for Hillary to be installed at this stage either. It’s too late, in my opinion, for such a move. NOW it would be devastating to the country, and I trust that Hillary would do nothing to harm the country.

    Obama is simply too entrenched as the candidate. He’s turned the election itself into a referendum on him. McCain is obviously a vote against Obama for a lot of people. It would be shocking to actually see a different Democratic candidate now.

    So I believe the best action is simply to defeat Obama. Let the Democrats lose. Make sure the message is sent as to WHY this loss is happening.

    It’s unacceptable to many Democrats to have a back-room deal made while pretending to try to avoid it. It was wrong to bully Hillary. It continues to be wrong to bully her fundraisers and supporters. Bullying doesn’t work.

    That’s a message I’m willing to embrace.

  • http://myiq2xu.wordpress.com myiq2xu

    I’m in the mood for rude

  • CheatedFLVoter

    I have no problem doing rude when it comes to obama.

  • Denise

    Democrats are giving themselves a gas tax holiday break that doesn’t include “we the people”.
    Those Darned VERY OLD OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY Democrats.
    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/12804/

    —————————————————
    FYI: just because there is a birth announcement in your home town doesn’t mean the birth occurred in your home town hospital.
    My mother posted birth announcements in my home town for all 3 of my children.

  • OhVoter

    “According to Rasmussen, John McCain now leads Barack Obama by 10 points in the SWING State of Ohio.”

    We Ohioans have FINALLY figured out how to recognize a fraud when we see one!!

  • AnnieO

    As Ohio goes, so goes the nation!

  • roseeriter

    Groupieism is so 60s and I have never been a rock star or a Liar’s groupie.

    Rock on PUMAs!

  • Larse12

    No Obama! Go Hillary 08!
    I cannot stand to hear Obama’s voice, see his face or anything else about him. It just saddens me so
    much that the nation has even let him get this far.

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com Gloria

    Be careful whom you are telling the truth to…

    Welcome to “Brainwave Analysis”–Where Brainwaves are “Taken, Analyzed, Cleaned-up, Processed” and the Metrics are “Extracted” (Coming to a Future Political Campaign Near You?)

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    preview:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/6mtfjf

    This is the scariest thing I’ve learned about in a long time. As a former market researcher, I find it absolutely mind-blowing (literally)….

  • Lil’ Mike

    Unfortunately the DNC has put the Democrats and the country in a lose-lose situation. If Hillary were to be nominated the Barack voters, including millions of AA, will stay home. But with Barack as the nominee the Dems lose either to McCain or by an Obama presidency which will set the Dems back a decade when the one term Barack destroys the credibility of the party.

  • anonymous

    Never saw Larry “pimping” that. If someone commented about it post your link to refute the information in that thread.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    moi aussi

  • AnnieO

    I agree that HRC becoming the nominee is a major long-shot. It seems to defy logic that the parties have their nomination process occur so late in the game.

    If HRC is not the nominee, we should do some major fundraising for McCain. I believe voting for McCain is the best strategy to defeat BO. As another blogger had written, “A write-in vote or staying home is really a vote for BO.”

  • roseeriter

    Yikes! Is nothing off limits anymore??

    Keep out of my head and keep out of my pants for christ sakes!!

    NOBAMA!

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  • Hope Floats

    You figured it out before the Canadians produced the letter that proved Obama lied about meeting with them. He was always a liar and always in favor of NAFTA. It didn’t take much to figure it out, but Ohio was paying attention to the issues this election.

    HELLO, CLEVELAND! You guys are rockstars.

  • jwrjr

    Obama (and Dean and Brazile) have already destroyed the credibility of the party.

  • AnnieO

    Agreed! BO will do more harm to the party than just losing this election.

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  • wodiej

    When a Republican leads their Democratic opponent by 10 points in a Democratic state, YOU’RE DONE-IT’S OVER. And the Republicans haven’t even begun to toast Obama like a marshmallow yet. I don’t know about you all, but Obama thinks he is putting on a sell out show now…wait until the Republicans begin theirs. I for one will be watching with enthusiasm. It is damn time that values and principles were put back into actions.

    great picture and post!

    PUMA

  • I, Bama

    Where is that 20 point lead he should have by now? Sitting squarely in the PUMA’s camp.

    Time magazine’s Joe Klein wonders
    why
    Obama’s poll numbers are anemic:

    Lots of speculation on the web, and in whispering circles, about why Obama’s foreign trip–a slam-dunk success substantively and in photo-op terms (Obama laughing with Petraeus in the helicopter was the best)–hasn’t resulted in a polling bump.

    Looks like the glitterati in the “whispering circles” are concerned…

  • Denise

    By Emily Kaiser, Reuters
    July 23, 2008

    Article Excerpts:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) — The U.S. stock market would fare better in the first year after a victory by Republican presidential candidate John McCain than by his Democratic rival Barack Obama, according to a majority of economists at U.S. banks and research groups polled by Reuters.

    But the survey of 29 firms taken alongside a regular Reuters economic poll also found that economists had mixed views on the two candidates’ economic plans.

    On a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being “very good”, 12 economists gave McCain’s proposals higher marks, while nine rated the two candidates equally and eight preferred Obama’s policies, according to the poll released on Wednesday.

    The economy has supplanted the Iraq war as the main issue in the November presidential election between Arizona Sen. McCain and Illinois Sen. Obama.

    The troubled housing market, tightening credit conditions and rising costs of food and energy have driven U.S. consumer confidence to a 28-year low.

    The survey, conducted this week, found that 21 of the economists polled thought McCain would be better for the stock market in the first year after the election, while six chose Obama and two gave no response.

    The sample includes a cross-section of U.S. financial institutions, large and small, including several prominent Wall Street names.

    For investors, a key concern this election year is taxes on dividends and capital gains, which Obama has pledged to increase. He also favors allowing income tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush’s administration to expire, while McCain wants them made permanent.

    “Preserving the capital gains and dividend tax rate (at) 15 percent is in my view very important to investors and therefore very important to Wall Street,” said Hugh Johnson, chief investment officer of Johnson Illington Advisors in Albany, New York, explaining why he thought stocks would fare better under a McCain presidency.

    McCain has said the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve’s steps to shore up troubled mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were correct and he hoped Congress would approve them. . . . click here to read entire article: http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSN2143994620080723?sp=true

  • CheatedFLVoter

    I actually don’t think AAs would stay home if Hillary were the nominee. They know in their heart that Hillary will do a great job. I do think that the young Kool-Aid drinkers would drop out.

  • DancingOpossum

    Yup, it’s better for Democrats to lose this one and regroup. The assorted boneheads who foisted this loser candidate on us–and the Democratic Congress’s lousy performance–will lead, or SHOULD lead, to the firings of Dean and Brazille, a shakeup in leadership, and a serious slap in the face to the prog-blogs, whose sense of power and entitlement is vastly overblown. If Dems are smart, this will smack sense into them. (Of course, experience has shown us that they are not very smart, and will probably continue to do the same stupid things, in which case I wash my hands of them and go help the Greens.)

  • deke

    Anninca I couldn’t agree with you more. It is about taking back control of our party. Many here seem to think that this has been a left wing coup of our party but the exact opposite is true. This has been a coup by business and special interests. This is a candidate with no true core beliefs unable to think for himself and has been installed by the same interests that installed Bush in power. It has become so obvious now I am surprised there hasn’t been any discussion of the subject. You can dress a pig in progressives clothes but it still smells like a pig.

  • Laura

    I agree with Ann on this. As someone who has never voted republican, I will do so this election. I was pro-Hillary but I am pretty pissed that throughout the campaign she ran on being a fighter against racism and sexism and now it appears as if she has caved just like other democrats. I would love to see her as the nominee but I believe that will not happen. The set-up to anoint this fraud worked and the ONLY option that we have at this point as PUMA’s is to elect McCain. I realized throughout this fiasco that it is my principles and not my party that I will adhere to and that is why I will vote for McCain. I am convinced, without a doubt, that I have more in common character-wise with him than I ever will with the likes of obama, michelle, dean, pelosi, brazille, trinity united church of christ, wright, phlegler, ayers, dorn, farrakahn, meeks, the MSM…..need I say more? I encourage all of you (PUMA’s and non) who are thinking of writing Hillary’s name in or planning on staying home, to understand that by doing either of them, that you really are sacrificing your vote to someone who certainly doesn’t deserve it and then you can congratulate yourself for assisting in the downfall of America. If you don’t believe that, look at Germany today….do you honestly believe he will stop there? WAKE UP FELLOW AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • anonymous

    If Hillary were to be nominated the Barack voters, including millions of AA, will stay home.

    I don’t know how you can prove that is the case. And if it was that would be a bunch of idiots cutting off their own noses to spite their faces. And then Hillary can run in 4 years.

  • wodiej

    I agree unless Obama does something blatantly awful or something in his past as such comes out, riots and all kinds of violence would break out if delegates actually put Hillary in as nominee. I would even go so far as to say I would fear for her life. I’m with you…let the Republicans take him down. They are dirtier than he is.

  • Dawnelle

    What happened to PUMA radio today? It’s on the schedule and there is another poster over there with me “obamalamadindongnuts” or something… lol

  • Dawnelle
  • anonymous

    Thinking people have caught on to Owaffles and he has no chance in November. I hope PUMA can rescue Hillary. She would win.

  • Zee

    No doubt, Ann…I’ve seen you make too many dubious statement to embrace this one.

    Nice try, tho.

    It’s not that it would be “devastating” to “install” Hillary now. Bullshit.

    It’s that there are overwhelming odds against it because people in general are so misinformed.

    They started in 2004-2005 to INSTALL OBAMA. It’s impossible to “install” Hillary because SHE HAS THE VOTES.

    But if you’re a republican who’s been for McCain all along, just say so.

    The rest of us will vote for McCain when and if the time comes, AS A PROTEST VOTE.

    There is NO need for ANY DEM to rush that day. So hold your horses, mole.

  • missE

    AnninCa,

    I agree nothing is more pathetic than a bully and that tactic has never worked on me.

    Unless something huge happens Obama will be the nominee. I will never vote for him but I do not want Hillary to be blamed for his loss. I think people need to see that Obama and the DNC did this to themselves otherwise we will have to live with Obama as a victim of the “evil Clintons” and the DNC will never change.

    I love the winking puma, I find myself doing that myself alot these days when talking to my Obama friends.

  • Dawnelle

    and it’s OMGIMGOINGNUTS

    my mistake ;-)

  • Susan

    I was thinking the same thing about the birth announcement. The Grandparents may have just done it in their home paper!

    BTW, I have a friend last name Borg and she did not appreciate the Obama-Borg reference. She says she is a true Borg and those true Borgs spit him out as defective. Just so you know!

  • katmandu

    This is going to be one tough, interesting election. Even though I’ll be writing in Hillary or voting for Nader, I’m still interested to see who the next prez will be.

    And, given the McCain rebound in this poll, is it possible that Obama’s trip is highlighting his inexperience, or that Americans think the trip is silly?

    McCain Makes Significant Gains in Four Key Battleground States
    Majority of Voters in Colorado, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin Favor Keeping Troops in Iraq, According to Quinnipiac-washingtonpost.com-Wall Street Journal Survey

    By Chris Cillizza
    washingtonpost.com staff writer
    Thursday, July 24, 2008; 10:00 AM

    Republican John McCain has quickly closed the gap between himself and Democratic rival Sen. Barack Obama in several key battleground states even as the Arizona senator struggles to break through the wall-to-wall coverage of Obama’s trip to Europe and the Middle East this week.

    McCain and Obama are in a statistical dead heat in Colorado, Michigan and Minnesota while the Illinois senator has a more comfortable double-digit edge in Wisconsin, according to polling conducted by Quinnipiac University…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/24/AR2008072401330_pf.html

  • Susan

    Is there any group he won’t offend? Now the Borgs are upset! hahaha.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    You’re being rude. I’ve voted straight Democrat for 35 years.

    But I will absolutely define myself as a moderate Democrat. Moderate….gradual change works.

    If you don’t agree with me, that’s OK. That’s another hallmark of a moderate. We’re not overly insistent on agreement.

    However, I do take offense at the notion that I’m a Republican mole. I hardly know any Republican names, even, because I’ve never paid any attention to them, nevermind voted for one.

    So bite it.

  • Zee

    Ann’s doing great work for McCain and the republicans, but what is YOUR rush?

    Another troll come to cement the MEME?

    When the time comes, we’ll vote McCain as a protest vote.

    But we’ve GOT to the END OF AUGUST especially BECAUSE those who wanted to install Obama wanted to do so on the anniversary of MLK’s “I have a Dream Speech.”

    We might as well USE this extra time.

  • AnnieO

    Does anyone know what the time difference is between Germany and EST?

  • jbjd

    In large part, the backlash of PUMAs against a BO nomination is not predicated on the fact we are ‘sore losers’ over an HRC loss. Rather, having educated ourselves about the nomination process – the role of SD’s, the concept of fair reflection, the difference between primaries and caucuses, and the discretion to sanction some states for violating the DNC’s calendar – we know no one ‘wins’ the nomination until everyone votes at the convention; and we know the DNC, acting capriciously and arbitrarily, has blocked a fair and equitable primary campaign. As to whether blacks will rise up if BO does not secure the nomination… Even assuming this is a real possibility, the backlash would be mitigated if more black supporters of HRC come out of the closet and educated BO’s supporters as to how the process should have played out, but didn’t.

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Joke Line thinks Obama’s trip is a “substantive” success?

    On what does he base this assertion?

    There is as much substance to Obama as there is to a sheet of recycled one-ply toilet paper.

    The man is empty in every sense of the word, and that’s why he is getting no bump from his preposterous victory lap around Europe.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Again, Zee, you’re out of line. I haven’t even decided whom will get my vote in the Fall. I’m a leaner at this point.

    You’re way out of line.

    If you can’t handle the fact that some PUMAS do not share your opinion, then you’re the one with the problem.

    I’d recommend some flexibility.

  • imustprotest

    I disagree. If we continue that logic then the same would be true about not “allowing” him to win the GE. Or “denying” him the presidency as some bots have said all along. That is caving in to the thugs. Even if it doesn’t work in Denver, the point is to try, and not give in to the thugs, that’s giving them more power.

  • Zee

    anonymous,

    this place is overrun with Republican moles today. They must’ve got some memo to promote these “Hillary is toast” ideas.

    Just tell them “nice try.” The problem isn’t that Hillary wouldn’t win. The problem is that the kingmakers have been working since 2004 and 2005 to install Obama.

    We only have one more month to topple their plans. And the thug moles here are trying to take away even that one little month.

  • Uña de Gato

    Obama thinks he will win Americans’ hearts and minds if he shows them all the pretty pictures he took on his study-abroad program.

  • SBwa

    the kool-aide drinkers might stay home anyway. half of them will be hung over from college parties the night before, and a lot of them choose obama as a fashion statement. remember last presidential election, all these young kids wearing “rock the vote” tshirts and protesting bush forgot to register and forgot to vote.

    what i am more worried about is obama’s push to win over republicans. this is what creeps me out: he refuses to debate his opponents, he has the MSM in the tank for him, he employs moles to monitor blogs and websites, he scrubs his own, he has george soros and other billionaire/millionaire and corporate interests backing him, he is a megalomaniac that demands being worshipped and has a cult following. he’s rigged elections before (in Chicago). what if they are able to rig a general election? then we are stuck with a pompous despot that the media worships. it will be like some nightmare out of george orwell.

  • katmandu

    Laura, this is very persuasive. As I stated somewhere in here, I had planned to write in Hillary, but you make an excellent argument. Who do I have more in common with? Certainly not the Pflegers and Ayers of the world. I don’t know your age, but I remember the Weathermen. So put me back in the uncommitted column.

    BTW, interesting editorial in USA Today. http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/07/our-view-on-ira.html It asks: Why won’t Obama admit the surge worked?

  • Dawnelle

    I think 5 hours ahead of us on est

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    My guess is that if the polls don’t start moving his direction, he’ll have no choice but to debate McCain.

    This is a very odd situation. McCain can’t get the time of day from the media. Obama is wiping him up in terms of defining the election, etc.

    Yet….the polls simply aren’t moving. People are not persuaded by Obama.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    My guess is that if the polls don’t start moving his direction, he’ll have no choice but to debate McCain.

    This is a very odd situation. McCain can’t get the time of day from the media. Obama is wiping him up in terms of defining the election, etc.

    Yet….the polls simply aren’t moving. People are not persuaded by Obama.

  • katmandu

    Germany is six hours ahead. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

  • CRED

    6 hours.

  • Dawnelle

    ok

    lol it’s been a long time since I lived in Holland and I guess they are an hour ahead? Or I’m just remembering it wrong.

  • Zee

    Ann, shove it.

    See my reply to anonymous, who was also perplexed by all of these “Hillary can’t be nominated and if nominated can’t win” statements suddenly appearing here today.

    Just as if they were MEMES being PLANTED all at once in response to a memo to go ahead as planned!

    You’re deep cover, so go ahead and act huffy and deny it. You’re still busted and in the very worst scenario, that I’m wrong, all that means is your thinking is defeatist and counterproductive.

    I know it’s a long shot for Hillary to become the nominee and for the general populace to become better informed.

    But shouldn’t THOSE be our goals for the one month we’ve got left?

    No Quarter has made the MSM news before. It can happen again.

  • katmandu

    If Obama were asked this answer, he’d say 5 hours one day, then 6 the other day, depending on the audience. Just like this:

    During the small brouhaha about the foreign language deficiencies of America’s kids, Obama said:

    (DAYTON, OHIO) “I don’t speak a foreign language. It’s embarrassing!” Barack Obama exclaimed today at town hall meeting here. Obama, who often touts his time growing up overseas, made the confession while speaking about the importance of teaching foreign languages in schools. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/07/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry4254480.shtml

    Today, speaking about his upcoming German speech, he said:

    “No,” Obama said. “I’m just giving a speech.”

    In English, he noted.

    “My German is not real good,” he said. “I can speak Bahasi Indonesian but I don’t think…there would be a lot of appeal to that.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/obama-on-tonigh.html

  • anonymous

    The fear of riots is a tactic the Obama campaign has been using for a long time. If a bunch of idiots want to riot they will be arrested. Our nation is strong and will survive. We should never submit to mob rule unless we want to give rise to a dictator. So what would be next? We better elect Obama as president or else there might be riots? How would McCain have to beat him in order to prevent the riots? Where does this stop? With me it stops with nominating Hillary.

  • imustprotest

    Oh and your comment that the Republicans would be able to take him down because they are dirtier than he is…again, I disagree. I used to think that too, that our party was the “good guys”…this new democratic is unlike anything I’ve seen before. It goes beyond “dirty tricks”. Thuggery, bullying, threats (including death threats to American citizens who dare speak out!) No, I think we need to try to stop this in Denver. Even if its just a strong statement of discontent that can carry over to the GE.

  • ugo

    The Democratic Party belong to us…We the people…

    We are not going to run away from our party. Sen. Obama and his gang members are not democrat, they will have to leave our party!

    This election should not be or is not about making history. It should be and always be about voting for the right and qualified candidate for the high office of our beloved country USA.

    If Sen. Obama is qualified then vote for him, but do not vote for him because he is “black” or is he?. My God, please, do not be blind, do not vote for him because he is a “democrat” or is he?

    I do not believe that he, Sen. Obama is qualified to be the President os USA.

    It is about our Country, USA do what is best for her.

  • anonymous

    We are on the same page. ;)

  • AnnieO

    Thank you. I’m surprised the cable news channels aren’t running BO’s speech live. If it starts at 16:00, shouldn’t it be on now?

  • wodiej

    so in other words, you’re voting for Obama. Because if you write in Hillary or vote for Nader that essentially is what you are doing.

  • ugo

    Correction

    I do not believe that he, Sen. Obama is qualified to be the President of USA.

  • I, Bama

    I linked the article to the word “why” in my post above, it’s kind of hard to see.

    Most of the commenters are outraged that Klein is addressing the reality of BO’s lackluster polling.

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    I’m just AnninCA, and your paranoia is downright silly!

    I’m a familiar poster here, and even my more moderate stances are familiar.

    Sorry, but these readers know me and probably can predict what I’ll say before I’ve even figured out what I think.

    This issue of the PUMAS and the floor nomination has been bugging me for awhile. I simply decided to speak out today.

    I don’t agree with it, and I do very much want to see that the Democratic party understands that they drove out good solid Dems with their tactics.

    But not at the expense of the AA community, frankly, who would be horrified if something like what some PUMAS are calling for were actually to happen.

    I’m not joining in on that. It’s too destructive.

    I am definitely joining in on waking up the DNC as to what the issues are.

    BTW….you seem very, very angry! Too early in the day for that nonsense.

  • Bigtime

    I heard the Democrats were giving lectures on sternly worded letters and how sternly worded letters apply to the Constitution and Campaign Donation requests at the Nutroots Convention. Also heard the Nutroots convention was the best circle jerk ever, hands down. Even had 3 minutes hate on PUMA’s, fluids (mainly spittle and tears) were flying in that meeting. I am beginning to believe they have no intention of “woo’ing ” us back to their party.

    Hillary 08!!!!!

  • Line Marie

    Nous les français nous nous moquons de barak HUSSEIN Obama et de sa femme qui est affreuse, mes amis allemands ne veulent pas de lui non plus, mais les médias européens sont comme les médias américains : malhonnêtes.
    Hussein obama est dangereux pour le monde.

  • missE

    CNN says 1pm EST

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    The idea that AA’s will stay home is not based in reality. There have been polls that show that a majority of AA’s would vote for either Obama or Clinton.

    I do not understand this ridiculous assertion that Obama is somehow entitled to the nomination. HE DID NOT FUCKING WIN IT. He did not get the number of pledged delegates under “The Rules” to become the nominee. Neither did Hillary. Neither one is the nominee yet. This Obama media creation is all hype and illusion by the DNC.

    Hillary’s base is far, far bigger than Obama’s. I’m tired of pretending otherwise. Hillary will win in a landslide if she is nominated. Who cares what the media says? She still beats Obama by 50-42 nationally.

    We need to stop worrying about what other people will think and have the courage to do the right thing. Everyone knew in FEBRUARY that the SD’s were going to decide this thing. It’s still up to them. I don’t care if it’s a long shot or not, nominating Hillary at the Convention is my goal.

    Sorry – was that rude? ;-)

  • CRED

    As far as I am aware the speech is scheduled for early evening, 6 or 7 p.m. Which makes sense as most people get off work at around 6 p.m.

  • roseeriter

    I agree with you UGO- Obama is not a democrat- I don’t know what or who he is. That he’s bamboozled many in the DNC and congress really messes up my head. My conclusion is the congress members who are so in bed with corporations are indebted and unfortunately in control right now. I would like to hear people like Kucinich and Maxine Waters take on what has happened. Those two have been clear weather bells for me in the past, meaning I listen to them as they both have a good moral compass compared to those who are humping for Obama like Pelosi, Reid and Dean.

  • Bigtime

    I agree 100%.

  • AnnieO

    Thanks! I’m curious to see the images and reactions of the Germans.

  • roseeriter

    merci beaucoup Line Marie- we agree.

  • CRED

    Sorry, forgot to mention that the times are CET.

  • Dan

    We can’t let it get that far. If he gets the official nomination, then the Republicans are going to bury him with adverts rightfully questioning his ability and honesty.

    What we are after is a Democratic win with Hillary. That is what I think this is all about. Not voting for McCain, but getting Hillary nominated.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    It’s true. There’s something about Obama that just brings out rudeness. And irritation. And nastiness, anger. It comes from watching his passive aggressive personality on parade. So, yes. Obamatoids, come to the light. Join the rebellion. Even if we don’t know what will happen with the nomination (and I say, let it rip, be bold) we do know that we will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. The reason there’s no bump is because the “Grand Tour” has been an empty experience for those watching. He’s given nothing of substance because he can’t. There’s nothing developed internally or through experience and it shows.

    I also agree that being disenchanted with the options still precludes a write in or staying home. We must help elect McCain under the circumstances…barring a miracle with Hillary. We have to bring down the DNC. Who the hell can survive backing all these losers? Time to clean house really, really well. And if that doesn’t clear the decks, then yes, register to a different party. I’m sure the Dems have already lost thousands of us but it might take a million re-registering to let them know that we won’t swallow their deceit.

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Line Marie – Merci! Vos mots sont admirables.

    For those who do not read French, here is a translation:

    We, the French, make fun of Barack Hussein Obama and his wife (who is awful!), our German friends don’t like him either, but the European media is like the American media: They lie.

    Hussein Obama is a danger to the world.

  • Uña de Gato

    AnninCA, the AA community is responsible for its own actions and reactions, and if somehow the presidency is “stolen” from Obama and there are riots, I hope Obama will give one of his famous speeches about personal responsibility that he so eagerly foists on his black brothers and sisters. Do you think that will happen?

  • cackicoo

    reporting on cable news……….
    the chosen one has already picked his whitehouse transition team………
    remind you of somebody???
    remember before gore conceded bush and all his cronies sat around ….and planned their takeover…

  • Sharon

    Well, I read that Joke Line thing and, although they may be “concerned,” it’s obvious Joe still has that thrill running up his leg. And he still sounds like a giddy teenager – same as the rest of the paparazzi media.

    “Obama laughing in the helicopter with Patreus was THE BEST!” (Oh yeah, our bambi is just THE BEST, isn’t he?)

    “…slam-dunk SUBSTANTIVELY…” Who the hell is he kidding? A SUBSTANTIVE success? According to the sycophantic media?

    No matter how “journalistic” Klein is trying to pretend to be, his groupieness still comes through loud and clear.

    The poor paparazzi media – no matter how much they try to cram their “messiah” down our throats, we, the great unwashed masses, still ain’t buying. How dare we not give him the bump they keep telling us he deserves! How dare we not obey them! Gee the whole country must be as dim and as bitter as they told us West Virginia and Kentucky were!

    Yeah, baby! PUMA!

  • KarenG

    Comment by AnninCa

    Way back early in the post you said that you don’t think it would be wise for Hillary to get the nomination at this point. I know that Taylor Marsh’s
    site is not too well liked at this point and that is in my opinion justified but she does have a guest writer who is talking about how Hillary winning at this point would throw the election into chaos.
    I think as you do the only solution seems to be to defeat Obama. If you are interested in the article although it is a little swarmy towards PUMA again It
    does make some good points. It’s title is
    Faithless Delegates- how PUMA wins the battle and loses the election. Marsh seems to be having lots of
    articles to set forth the argument against pushing for Hillary as the nominee

    I think we need to be a little open minded to the other arguments, that doesn’t mean we need to agree but we really are as bad as they are if we close
    out some of the valid points and make our decision with out all things considered.

  • Peggy Sue

    I don’t think it serves anyone’s interests to fight about who we may or may not vote for. Why? Because we can all agree:

    It will not be Obama.

    If his presumptive status is confirmed in August [as I suspect it will be--not that it's fair or right but because there's too much money involved and gargantuan egos on the line]then we’ll all go to the polls and privately pull our respective levers.

    For me, it may be McCain but it depends on his VP choice. I cannot support a Bobby Jindal or Huckabee decision. They seem like perfectly nice men but their stands on certain social issues makes them unacceptable and neither has the experience or gravitas if McCain were to become ill or worse.

    Where would I go from there? Maybe Nader. Maybe the Green Party. Or maybe a write-in. I don’t know yet. I’m leaving my options open.
    But I will vote, only not for the Dems and not for this candidate.

    After it’s all said and done, the Democratic Party deserves to lose in this cycle. And if they do, it will send a chilling message: we demand more than marketing images and empty words. We want a true leader, not the Pied Piper and his band of comatose supporters.

  • jus messin wit you man

    Zee has a history of being an ass with her posts. Glad you noticed, too.

  • s. hall

    anninca — I agree. How do you fire a would be Messiah–you vote against the party who forced the real nominee out of the race. I am voting against all Democrats this year. Even down ticket Democrats I have worked for in the past because the only way the Democratic Party can see what they has done is to lose BIG.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Just one more example of “Do as I say, not as I do.” He’s the embarrassment.

  • AnnieO

    Thank you. I’m limited to English and Pig Latin.

  • CheatedFLVoter

    I just heard Fox say obama would be speaking in Germany in about two hours.

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Joke Line is an absolute hack. Did you check this out? According to Joe, people think Obama is being presumptuous:

    (And presumption, of course, always comes with the subterranean tinge of racism.)

    No. He. Didn’t.

    It’s presumptuous because Obama is not the President! He’s not even the nominee yet!

    OMG, I am so tired of this racism bullshit. I can only imagine the guffaws and attacks that the media would perpetrate on Hillary if she showed one-tenth of the hubris Obama is showing by going on this propaganda extravaganza. AND THEY WOULD BE RIGHT.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    what is your problem, Zee? NO need to hit anyone here unless its yourself for purposly lying about and trashing someone on this site. Now get over it and be a PUMA or shut up and leave. We are not republicans here.

  • buckwheat

    obama is breaking the law in the middle east and should be prosecuted under the “LOGAN ACT”….google it and spread it. its a felony what he is doing…..

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    BOOOOYAHHH!!!

    WooT!!!!!

  • Dawnelle

    Mon Dieu vous êtes si drôle j’ai juste humide mon pantalon

    Je me trouve

    for translation see Babel Fish

    heheh

  • Lee12

    Yep, sure has been a busy week of letter writing!!!

    NOBAMA

    PUMA’s stay strong & stay together!!!

  • roseeriter

    Very- good job! :-)

    Obama sucks! Rude back at ya…lol!

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    The DNC has only one chance to survive–do something totally courageous in Denver to save our country from two inappropriate presidents. Of course, Hillary would be terrific.

    A friend asked me to pick the 5 characteristics that a president should possess. Good exercise. I came up with:

    Experience
    Integrity
    Patriotism
    Courage
    Achievement (enough different from experience I think)

    I can think of several Democrats who measure up (abd even a Republican or two), but Obama does not. It was a rather shocking insight to realize how much closer McCain was to my choices.

  • Dawnelle

    ok I’m getting worried about PUMA RADIO

    has ANYONE heard from them?
    They had a scheduled show this AM and no word of cancellation or reason why as a follow after……….

    I don’t get it but it’s not very professional which is why I am worried. They seemed soooooooo on the mark! And quick to get going. I hope nothing is wrong. :-/

    maybe I’m alone in my fears here

  • http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/07/point-blank-range-blasphemy-in.htmlhttp://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/07/point-blank-range-blasphemy-in.html matthew

    “Obama, Jerusalem is not for sale!!”

    Good grief I hope the world sees this video. The nerve of this guy.

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    Why do you assume PUMAs hadn’t considered that possibility? We have and we don’t believe it will happen. In fact, you have no data whatsoever to back up your claims.

    Should she be chosen at the Convention, Hillary will have ALMOST THREE MONTHS to unify the Party. Do you really believe she couldn’t do it?

    To me, should this miracle occur, Hillary would most likely offer the VP spot to Obama immediately. Don’t you think that would help the Unity Train get back on the tracks?

    I personally don’t want him on the ticket, but I think it’s unavoidable unless he refuses the VP, or proves between the Convention and the election that he is too toxic for the VP slot (which could very well happen.)

    So you see, we are not as bad as the Obots drunk on Kool-Aid. We know what we’re doing and we’re not afraid to do it.

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    That kitty has teeth.

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    LOL!

    :-)

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    “Hillary winning at this point would throw the election into chaos.” Seems to me we’re already there. However, my concern is that Hillary seems to have already moved on to 2012 and so I wonder about her getting back on board.

    I truly believe that the Dems have to be taught a lesson with the rebellion of millions of voters crossing over to McCain. I don’t find him scary at all. He has a big job to fulfill and a lot of GWB to get rid of. I don’t really think he has forgotten the horrible treatment of the Bushies the last time around. I think he will be much more independent that anyone can imagine.

  • wodiej

    those would be my top ones as well.

  • Dawnelle león del puma

    I like your name! lol

  • wodiej

    fill us in please

  • Denise

    The hours depend on the time of year and where we are with our “day light savings time”

  • Dawnelle

    You got THAT right!

  • AnnieO

    Changez votre pantalon !

    Thanks for the site.

  • tzada

    Well I have to disagree. I am a Republican or was until either fraud or a compter glitch made me a Democrat. That said I have not held to party lines in voting but vote for the good of the country. I am a law abiding citizen and am loyal to my country the USA. So please don’t label Republicans dirty in a general manner. I would vote for Hillary over Obama and McCain over Hillary. I voted for Bill Clinton once. I would vote for any known dictator before I would vote for Obama. He scares me, him with his “security force.” Sorta kinda like the SS? And Obama stands at the Nazi Gate …….

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Yes.

  • beverly leslie

    . LETTER FROM AN USAF officer serving in Afghanistan:

    Hello everyone,

    As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to ‘ The War Zone ‘ . I wanted to share with you what happened.

    He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram.

    As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand, he blew them off and didn’t say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service.

    So really he was just here to make a showing for the Americans back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.

    I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States . I just don’t understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

    If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

    In service,

    xxxxxxx

    Bagram, Afghanistan

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    No, I feel connected to all groups, I guess. I empathize. That’s my liberal bone. I figure my issues are their issues and that we have more common meeting ground than uncommon.

    Actually, I’ve always used the set theory of math to explain this in my own head. We intersect broadly.

    So I was in complete agreement with Bill and Hillary when they repeatedly showed up to AA events and took the icy reception and apologized for any hurt feelings. I thought and still think that was right to do. I didn’t think they did nearly as much harm as what Clyburn did to his own AA constituents. I thought/think Obama and Clyburn are highly manipulative of the AA mindset. I think that’s wrong.

    But I agreed with Bill and Hillary that what’s important are the people. Who cares who did what to whom. People matter.

    Ditto for my opinion on this matter. Who cares what’s fair or right? Real people matter, and it’s simply gone too far now to consider turning back Obama’s candidacy.

    That would, in my opinion, devastate people.

    I’ve already been devastated by the way Hillary was treated. Enough damage.

  • untilthelastdogdies

    Yes, The ObamaNation not only has been given a free pass by the MSM, they have been grossly underestimated, IMO.

    To think that many considered the Clintons to be the knee-cappers!

    The Collective is on equal footing with the worst of the FRW…they employ the same tactics and have successfully mastered their playbook. When the word “racist” is code-word for what we used to call dissent, something is far, far wrong.

    I can’t sit idly by and watch this bullshit! The Adoration Of The Precious
    is not something I want to watch for the next “8 to 10 years”…

  • Denise

    Here is mine:

    Principles, Integrity, Honor, Leadership, Equality

  • buckwheat

    a bar complaint has been filed against obama. he lied on his bar application about his drug use, he said “no”……someone filed the complaint, doesnt that look good for the nominee ????

  • anonymous

    Add to your list:

    Not a racist and would not engage in race-baiting. Would not sit in a racist church for 20 years.
    Does not associate with unrepentant terrorists.
    Produces proof they are eligible to be president like an original birth certificate.
    Does not make boneheaded real estate deals with shady characters who end convicted felons.
    etc.

  • pew
  • Uña de Gato

    Forgive me for harping on this, but you’re saying you’re willing to appease a particular segment of society even if doing so could mean devastating damage to the whole? That is not the democracy I knew.

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    The Democratic Party is in deep doodoo as it is. A new change in behavior will not ruin it more. Hillary doesn’t need to be ‘installed’ – let the votes work their way in the Convention.

    Since our goal is to prevent Obama from being president, what comes of a change in nomination is actually achieving this goal.

    Hillary would have a very hard time to start a meaningful campaign – but I trust her, she can pull it off. She is the one by the way who can calm the raw emotions within the Party too.

    It is silly and giving in to the blackmail of ‘Unity’ and bs. like that to take her off the ballot!

    There can be no such concern that overrides the need for a President who actually will NOT ruin this country.

    Don’t leave the task to the Republicans! They have their own problems and Karl Rove doesn’t seem to be a part of the efforts. By the way what kind of attitude is to leave it to our opponents (reps) to fix our problem? I admit, I count on them, but I don’t rely on them!

    GRRRRRRR

    PUMA!

  • Dawnelle

    Life can be devastating!

    you deal with it and hope you can sleep at night considering the consequences of your days actions

    it has ALWAYS amazed me, the TYPE of person you MUST be to be a good politician (taking the good or bad issue out of it and just grading on their political skill)

    I think I’d be a better high wire walker!

    (just don’t forget my net)

  • s. hall

    I Bama — Looks like the media will have to resort to the phoney polls they use when they can’t manipulate us any other way. On AOL’s main page today it says — Will The Speech be Obama’s JFK Moment. First of all JFK was President and he was in a position to do something for Germany. Second of all Obama is no JFK. Stick with it people. All Obama offers is sizzle. After the World juggernaut what then–Obama speaks from Outer Space. Or perhaps Obama turns water into wine. Nah thats been done. Its gotta be something REALLY BIG.

  • s. hall

    annie Ohio picked the Best Democrat and now Ohio will pick the best Nominee. Go Johnny.

  • s. hall

    roseeriter — This is country cannot afford this Rock Star Messiah. Notice the Israelis were not buying him either. He only spent 15 minutes at the Wailing Wall — the shouting frightened him.

  • tzada

    I truly think they will rig the elction. SD were working on eleimination of the Electoral College and one of Obama SD was an attorney for one of the electronic voting machine companys. One that was proven to be hackable. He also has one of the Zogby brothers of Zogby polls as a SD. Then there is the MSM owned by rich people who depend on Obama to win to further their agenda. That’s why the SD are pushing Obama. They “know” no matter how we vote they will be able to insure he wins. So went the primary so goes the GE?

  • NOBama in August

    … It’s too late, in my opinion, for such a move. NOW it would be devastating to the country, and I trust that Hillary would do nothing to harm the country….

    Why exactly would it be devastating to the country?

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    That is another very real issue. It’s too late, in my opinion. I don’t think Hillary could launch a successful GE at this point.

    I really haven’t changed my opinion on this matter a jot since she lost the SD support and suspended.

    I was completely supportive of her arguments that she was more electable. I’m convinced had they supported her, she’d be ahead by 20 points. He’s struggling. I’m convinced the SDs took a foolish risk and may well lose, in spite of McCain’s obvious negatives.

    But so it goes. I agree with Ferarro completely. Obama is the candidate because he’s black. And that’s making him into some kind of an odd rock-star. His comments on Israel were nothing new. Yet it’s reported as terrific.

    I will always personally think that this is just how deep racism goes. A black man who can talk without sounding ghetto is automatically praised as though it’s a sign of keen political intelligence. LOL*

    Lordy, there are plenty of intelligent, well-spoken AA politicians who have a lot more on the ball than Obama.

    Whatever…

    My stance is that this is not Hillary’s year. So I’m hoping Obama loses, McCain is a placeholder, and we move to 2012. That’s ideal to me at this point.

    OR……Obama wins and I ignore politics for a few years. That’s a possibility, too.

    I think he’s pretty much of a suit. He’s boring, his foresight is nil, and he’s all about PR. I wouldn’t pay any attention to a word he says. He’s the worst of the PR politicians I’ve seen in years.

    I don’t think he’s HITLER. I don’t buy into the paranoia. I think it’s worse. He’s a weak figure with a strong machine going for him. That means……no real solutions for us for a long time.

    He’ll send troops into Afghanastan, for example. Because he’s viewed as too liberal, he’s going to switch the war ground. And those troops will do nothing, because we’d have to go into Pakistan to really do anything. So it’s a waste of money.

    He’ll not do a damn thing on energy. He’ll not do a damn thing for health care.

    He’s going to be a do-nothing, photo-op president who will waste money.

    So I can’t see McCain as being one bit worse to elect. Does that make me REpublican?

    I don’t think so.

    I am sick of the partisanship talk. Really, what’s the difference between these two guys?

    For real? I can’t see any.

  • Dawnelle

    hehehehe! You are welcome!

    My Mother says that! (not in French)
    lol

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    oh the Precious has done it again:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/24/competing-optics-cheering-germans-or-american-military/

    The message here is that thousands of screaming German fans at the Tiergarten take precedence over visiting Americans serving their country at Rammstein and Landstuhl. Maybe one of the networks following Obama could interview a few of the soldiers about how they perceive that set of priorities from Obama.

    Der Spiegel also notes that the French seem diffident about Obama’s visit to Paris, with none of the enthusiasm of the neighbors to the east:

    ++ Paris Left Cold by Obama Visit ++

    3:30 p.m.: While Obama’s Berlin visit has caused a stir, hardly anyone is interested in his trip to Paris on Friday. There are hardly any French media reports on the eve of his visit. There is merely some grumbling about the extensive itinerary for his trip to Berlin. “A speech in Berlin, five little hours in Paris,” writes French daily Le Monde.

    Heck, why didn’t Obama skip Paris? He could have still worked in a visit to the American bases in Germany. Apparently, even diffident French get priority over American military personnel….

  • Laura

    okay, with all due respect to everyone (and I do sincerely mean that) can we get back to the real world here? There is no way (barring something illegal on him)that Hillary is going to be nominated and no, I am not a republican troll. In fact, I am a professional, gay woman who has only voted democrat. (please don’t attempt to hang the gay thing over my head either; that’s been played the eff out along with the race card!!!)
    Moving on, I agree in that Hillary is focusing on 2012 now and that she is doing things to appease the dnc but I also feel as though she is trying to appease us as well. I for one, am a bit offended by this because she is asking for and accepting our $$$$ but has not even acknowledged us. I also am disturbed as to how she fought against racism and sexism only to “support senator obama” and ask us to do the same. Say what sister??? NEVER!!!! I have realized that my principles outweigh my party. I will not hand my vote to obama by writing Hillary’s name in or by staying home. I, along with a few million more PUMA’s, will vote for McCain.

  • TeaMug

    Watching BBC24 News..They are covering LIVE. At the moment they have pop band on playing to the crowd. Will update, because they are talking about other news. That was just a snap shot!!

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    A bar complaint by “Anonymous?”

    Please, that’s so ridiculous.

  • wodiej

    There is no way I will grace TM’s site with my presence after the shitty way she treated everyone who supported her and her site. I don’t care who is guest posting either. TM is so drunk on Kool Aid I wouldn’t trust who she has “allowed” to post. She bans anyone who says something she doesn’t like. She can stick it.

  • TeaMug

    I am talking about Obama in Berlin!! forgot to mention the “obama”

  • s. hall

    larse — 18 million people voted against Obama. If it were not for the cheating he did in the caucuses which was sanctioned by the DNC, he would be nowhere now. 14% of Democrats are going to be voting for McCain who already has 86% of Republicans. Obama is only getting 77% of the Democrats and Republicans are running from him in droves. Say a prayer and everytime the media tries to sell the sizzle–think steak.

  • Mary Lou

    Caving into threats of AA violence if this election isn’t maneuvered in the “right” direction is no different than allowing extremists from other countries to frighten us into letting them control our country’s direction.
    Intimidation looks and smells rotten, regardless of who practices it. Once you give into it you become a helpless captive.

  • cackicoo

    thank you

    come again

    be safe

    we appreciate you

    feel the same about obama

    PUMA

  • KarenG

    Hey, I am on your side and not making claims I was just commenting on Anin’s comment and talking about a article that discusses it. I will say,
    however, that I don’t think it’s realistic to
    assume that Obama supporters are not as entrenched for him as we are for Hillary. I am sure you have had experiences with the Obama people on other sites and they are determined to
    defeat her if she gets the nomination. It seems the best thing would be to let Obama run and defeat him. I think my opinion is just as valid as yours….sorry you don’t feel the same way.
    Signing off for now.

  • s. hall

    annie — it will be interesting to see what the Democratic Party Platform states this year, because the nominee is supposed to follow the party platform. We know Obama has become a defacto Republican I have to wonder if the rest of the Party has as well.

  • TeaMug

    There are hardly any French media reports on the eve of his visit.

    Same thing here in the UK..this is all media hype for the people in America. I would like to see the BBC interview Obama but I think Obama is scared of the BBC. The British Government have a love and hate relationship with the BBC. I hope there will be BBC reporters outside 10 Downing Street, when Obama speaks. It will probably be just a speech and no questions. Come on BBC..do your job..get him.

  • Linda

    OH! Don’t forget his campaign themes for his US Senate Seat.

    He campaigned being against the “dumb [Iraq] War” and opposed to the “injustices of the Patriot Act”.

    …so OF COURSE, he would continue BOTH. Yep, his main campaign themese for which he held for 2 years befor running for President and he voted opposite of what he campaigned for.

    One would think anyone who supported him for his Senate Seat would see the hypocrisy and not support him, but are we to believe so few peoople actually pay attention? I guess so.

  • Dawnelle

    I think she would have to ask him as well. YACK.

    OR maybe she will take his offer as VP and before NOV. he will have to step down from the humiliation of it all due to his continued lies and mess ups in policy and protocol and propaganda

    he can’t keep track of the truth
    or history

    it’s shameful really
    all the glitz and the LOUD EMPTINESS emanating from within him.
    :-( sadly so lacking in substance (worthy substance for ALL of America not just the pacifist elite, 80% of the AA’s, and a small % of other puppies & punks.

    NOT a compilation of anything worth crowing about! (very narrow)

  • roseeriter

    Kitty is a better symbol than a jack-ass or fat elephant too.

  • s. hall

    SBwa — Obama support among young people has begun to fade. The reason for the Magical Mystery Tour is to get them back in the fold.

  • AnnieO

    I don’t think it would be wise for HRC to acknowledge us. I believe that she would like to take back the party for the people, too, but it won’t happen if she becomes the villian of the party. That’s up to us.

  • Dawnelle

    there was a scheduled show for 7/24 at 10am on PUMA

    one other person (omigodimgoinuts)
    and I were there on the blog making comments waiting. Not on the live blog. It never happened.

  • s. hall

    jbjd — Everything you said is valid. This is why the Party doesn’t want a roll call vote because this nomination is still fluid. They are forcing a Coronation instead.

  • Linda

    And now CNN is reporting Polls tightening even more. It seems they’re all catching up to Rasmussen’s tie.

    CNN now shows Barky on with 4 pts ahead of mcCain.

    AND, speaking of being for Sale. An unscheduled trip to the Western Wall in Israel led to a heckler telling Obama “Israel is not for sale”! Wow. They see through him faster than his own country men.

  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

    But Obama has all that‘s needed! Experience, Integrity, Patriotism, Morals, Ethics.
    He’s experienced in Chicago style politics
    He learned about integrity from Rezko
    Took a crash course on patriotism from William Ayers
    Got his moral and ethical foundation from Rev Wright
    His list of achievements include an anti-war speech in 2002, being on the senate banking committee, being born bi-racial, he was able bamboozle the DNC elite, he wooed the media, he hoodwinked voters …

  • kiki

    I feel really down today :-(

    why is the media not fair? why are they treating JM like that?
    If this keeps happing BO will be our next president, I feel sick :-(

  • s. hall

    wodiej — Unless Obama walks on the Moon by October he is toast.

  • DancingOpossum

    Robert Wexler of Florida may be DISQUALIFIED From
    the Florida Primary & General Election

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer scuzzbucket. Wexler was one of the slimiest during the RBC debacle.

  • Dawnelle

    I too appreciate his service. FYI for those that appreciate hearing soldiers. I just found this at the live radio site

    Perpetual Motion – Interview with Battle of Fallujah Marine Veteran Aaron Thorpe

    Host: Perpetual Motion

    Length: 120 Minutes

    Category: Politics
    UPCOMING SHOW: 7/24/2008 10:00 PM

    I guess he’s on right after LARRY’s show tonight? Or has that been canceled too?

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fightclub/2008/07/25/Perpetual-Motion

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Uhhbamas arrogance will be his undoing

    Hillary IS POTUS

    ______________________________

    WE’VE GOT HILLARY
    I’VE GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

  • alexei

    Yes, yes and yes! Devastation to AAs would be worse if Obama is allowed to steal this nomination and either go on to lose big or by some chance because of the Media and big blogs propaganda, he happens to become the worst President in history.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    Is four points within the margin of error?

  • wodiej

    I understand your frustration w Hillary endorsing BO w his racism and sexism. But considering all factors and just the nature of politics, I’m not sure she had much of a choice. If she had not endorsed him can you imagine the backlash? She hasn’t been out there too much for him. She still wants to be a productive Senator.

    I am a professional gay woman as well and believe me I am not crazy about voting for McCain but the other option is completely unacceptable.

    And I agree, the chances of Hillary being the nominee are slim to none. Even if supers vote for her the DNC w it’s shady crookedness would find some way to still nominate Obama. If he didn’t get it there would be riots, violence and I would be afraid for Hillary’s life. As you said, there would be have to be an enormous scandal for Obama not to get it.

  • TeaMug

    BREAKING NEWS:

    BBC24 are reporting live with regards to Obama speech. They have just showed a clip of the medias love affair with Obama from McCains website. The BBC24 news reporters are talking about his flip-flops.

    The BBC is not falling for Obama. There are thousands of people there, they are all away down to the gate. I notice his script on the podium.

    Will be watching this speech via the BBC, can’t wait for the reporters to talk about it afterwards.

    Hillary Clinton for President

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    it is total BS that the AA ‘block’ these pundits think move as one, would not vote for HRC, they would indeed vote for HRC, and polls FWIW (hee) have shown it
    in fact 79% of the AA voters polled said they wanted HRC on the ticket and would vote for her if Uhhbama wasnt the nom IIRC

    HILLARY IS POTUS
    ________________________________________________

    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

  • Dawnelle

    wow says NQ is on twice

    Violet Socks at 6pm

    and NQ hosts at 9pm

    then the Soldier at the above link at 10

    busy night for radio

    I will definitely need popcorn! ;-)

  • Dawnelle

    great list!

  • DrMK

    do forget donnie mcclurkin and kirbyjohn caldwell ;)

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    BWAAAHAAAAAA

    And the Uhhbamapalooza Tour keeps on giving!

    PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL

    _____________________________________________

    WooT!!

    DONT DREAM IT-
    BE IT!!

    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    What an asshole. All to chisel a few bucks on his State income tax (FL has non, MD has some).

  • wodiej

    think so

  • TDTDRock

    Fox is showing people sprinting to see Obama. I just read it’s not really about Obama, he’s only speaking at the intermis sion of a free concert?

    Bamboozled again? Anyone know if this is true?

  • DrMK

    i don’t mean “do forget”, i mean “don’t forget, of course.

  • wodiej

    don’t be discouraged. election is still a long way off. the media is rarely fair, the media wants money

  • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

    I think the only way Hillary would be able to get the nomination without a huge backlash by Obama people is if something happens to Obama and he has to drop out due to scandal. Otherwise, I think it is better for Hillary politically to lay low now and hopefully run again in 2012.

  • corage

    superdelegates – do the right thing and nominate the candidate who can win back the white house for the democrats this november… senator hillary clinton.

    and don’t you dare blame senator clinton if you lose for not picking the most winnable candidate.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Oui, c’est ca.

    je ne voudrais pas l’uuuhhhhbama a mon maison blanc!!

    non non non

    this message brought to you by High School French Class

    oh yeah and

    ps mon plume est sur la table as Eddie Izzard would say, heh

  • Dawnelle

    I agree with BOTH of you above and it’s a GOOD damn question HILLARY!!

    HOwze about a little love para el Gato? Meow!

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    here it is:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=x1sQkEfAdfY

    eddie izzard on learning French

  • http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

    I think some are entrenched and some are not. Polling has been done that suggests this.

    But more importantly, Obama’s coalition is simply smaller. Sorry, but latte liberals, unreliable young voters and AA’s are nowhere near as numerous as working-class white/Hispanic/Asian etc. people. That’s simply the truth.

    So sorry, I don’t think we should be intimidated by the threats that the AA’s will stay home. There just aren’t enough of them to make a difference.

    As for Hillary not being able to run a GE campaign if she were the nominee, Ann – I disagree. The beauty of her campaign was that it was ALWAYS geared towards the GE. She would not have to flip-flop and run to the right like Obama – she was already in the center. And let’s face it, HRC is pretty much a known quantity at this point. What could the rightwingers really say about her at this point?

    We can disagree, but the PUMAs must stay on message. Riverdaughter is right. Our goal as a movement is to place HRC’s name in nomination at the Convention and see what happens next. If you don’t agree with that, then you are free to say so of course, but don’t expect the movement to change its goals because of it.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    owdyhay artnerpay! owhay areay ouyay odaytay? inefay erehay!

  • JP49

    Well 77% is just too many democrats. All they all braindead? I could never vote for Obama, such a fraud and truly despicable person.

  • SpotOn

    Agreed. Let them riot. It’s always their own neighborhoods that they burn down. When South Central LA burned after the rodney King trial, most of America was unsympathetic.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    she is funny and you peed your pants?

    been a few years but i translate better than i conjugate, heh

  • Lou

    Quote:
    Obama Visits Western Wall; Hears Psalm and Heckling

    And then one man at the Wall began screaming: “Obama, Jerusalem is our land! Obama, Jerusalem is not for sale!”

    He kept yelling this for Obama’s entire 10 minutes at the Wall, refusing to stop despite repeated entreaties to do so from the crowd.

    “It was rowdier than the last time I was there, you know?” Obama told reporters on the plane. “I mean, people were sort of, like, holerin’. You know I was expecting more reverence.”
    He is such a phony and liar. What a hypocrite to stand at the West Wall when he is a muslim. I just hope the people of this country open their eyes to him and see just what he really is.
    Maybe the campaign signs had a little something to do with lack of reverence.
    If this is a Congressional Fact finding Trip paid for by our Taxes and not a campaign trip, Why is the campaign crap being shown? Despite all the Obama camp BS of it’s not a campaign trip, here is proof otherwise.
    I believe the Senate should hand him a bill for the whole trip.

  • Arabella Trefoil

    I feel the same way. But things change. You just have to hang in there.

    The rational part of my mind tells me that things will turn out OK, as long as I don’t give up.

  • Fred C. Dobbs
  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Im tellin ya they are practicing the Secret

    we need to do it too

    visualize

    Hillary being sworn in Jan 20, in blue

    visualize Uhhbama contonuing his arrogance- pride goeth before the fall, OMMMM

    visualize Hillary is POTUS

    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Lou, I enjoy a lot of your comments, but Obama isn’t Muslim.

    My son was Muslim for awhile. I live in LA where there’s a sizeable Muslim population from Iran, etc.

    Obama isn’t Muslim.

    BTW, loads of Muslims are perfectly compatible with Palestinian AND Isralaeli goals. They know the drill, they see the problems, and they are as supportive of a solution as any Baptist could be.

    So let’s not swipe all Muslims with the same card, huh?

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    I would vote for Ted STevens, McCain, a dead Jesse Helms, Charles Manson, Irving R. Feldman or Nipsy Russel before I’d vote for Obama.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmm…..According to Party History….Lots o’ Strange Stuff Could Happen At The Convention….Tap Dancin’ Jesus could even show up despite what the Mormons say as to the arrival site….
    *** Of Course that is the History of the OLD PARTY….The New Party ? Who knows? ***

  • http://deleted AnninCa

    Hillary won’t be blamed. She’s incognito now! Her latest news items are all about her state senate duties and the battles for NY industry.

    It’s picture perfect.

    Bill……he’s announced a new AIDS push. Can’t exactly complain about that.

    The Clintons are taking a back seat and look very graceful there.

    Obama is on his own. He must build his own coalition.

    He’s raised very little for Hillary. She’s raised a lot for him.

    She’s still 22 million in debt, and only a small portion is for consultants. The argument that they don’t want to support Penn is false.

    So they have no reason to complain about former Hillar supporters.

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Buy your neighborhood Korean grocer/bodega owner some ammo.

    Now THOSE MF’ers know how to move the rioters on up the street.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    HILLARY IS POTUS

    SO SAY WE ALL

    She has 20 mill in the bank for the GE

    it is in no way too late

    what it IS too late for is an Uhhbama win, the party is fractured and only Hillary will bring it together

    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME!

    MAKE IT SO!!

    VISUALIZE
    BE POSITIVE

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    depends what the GOP is holding on him

    I can think of numerous things that would finish him as a VP choice and make it obvious to everyone he cannot be selected as VP…

    HILLARY IS POTUS

    SO SAY WE ALL

    OMMMMMM

  • workingclass artist

    The possibility of suicide bombers frightened him…

  • s. hall

    Laura — you make some really valid points. Its about character and who we are as a nation. I am convinced, without a doubt, that I have more in common character-wise with mccain than I ever will with the likes of obama, michelle, dean, pelosi, brazille, trinity united church of christ, wright, phlegler, ayers, dorn, farrakahn, meeks, the MSM…..need I say more.

    Obama is like a beautifully wrapped package–however, when you open it — you get a pile of stinking excrement. No thanks.

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    FILTHY LIMERICK TIME

    There once was a man named MacGruder.
    Found a girl in the nude, and he wooed her.
    She found it quite rude to be wooed in the nude,
    But MacGruder was shrewd, and he s*****d her!

    (See? No Nantucket reference…just Rudeness!)

  • ron moore

    when obama goes to heaven will he get the 72 virgins??
    he has to be a muslim

  • http://www.logisticsmonster.blogspot.com/ DiamondTiger

    Don’t let this “world tour” get you down. Just keep reminding the delegates that he isn’t HERE helping US or the downticket dems. He’s campaigning to everybody but us.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

    WooT!!!

    HILLARY IS POTUS

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    “Will no one rid us of this tiresome popinjay?”

  • gotalife

    Jack the Obama hack read a Peggy Noonan hit piece on President Clinton on the air.

    Nice trick to have a free concert to attract the people.

    Total fraud.

  • s. hall

    zee — I am anything but a Republican mole. However, look at the reality of the situation. This is the Democrats were are talking about. In the last 2 years they had control of both houses and never once went against Bush. Are they going to go against this media sensation (cough) and do what’s right? I read things which say they are fed up with Obama’s arrogance and his dictatorial nature but they are incapable of doing the right thing because they set this up so they could stop Hillary. That was and is their main goal. Has Obama been a run away train which could lose them both the Presidency and Congress — yes. But they would rather die than be Politically Incorrect.

  • DancingOpossum

    Forget what the Europeans think of him. Good news from our own states!

    Quinnipiac is out with new swing state numbers showing John McCain picking up ground on Obama in Colorado, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. According to Quinnipiac, McCain gained a net 15 points on Obama in Minnesota in the last four weeks, 7 points in Colorado, and 2 points in both Michigan and Wisconsin. Wisconsin is the only state that remains outside the margin of error

    http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/07/swing_state_polls_mccain_gains.html

    NOTE: RCP compares the new polling to their own RCP Polling Average, which finds obambi still in the lead some places. I don’t know how reliable the RCP average is.

  • workingclass artist

    Memo to jwrjr :
    You PUMA Folks have got to come around to the New Party Think….Mkay?
    For those of you who got no natural rhythm…Goose Steppin the Obama Way Classes are at Your local YMCA which will be renamed OYFA ( Obama Youth For America ) Classes begin in August so sign up NOW!
    Direct all future inquiries to the Department of Cultural Correction.
    Sincerely,
    Commissar Donna Brazeal. The New Party for a New America

  • TeakWoodKite

    The use of the phrase “slam-dunk” is why BO is anemic.

  • workingclass artist

    Memo to Fred C. Dobbs :
    I have implemented an extermination plan affective Jan. 09 soon after the Ritual for Installation of Dear Leader is completed. This could be delayed as we will be relocating the Capital during this period of adjustment. Obama feels Popinjays are tiresome too. So glad to see that we are all on the same page.
    Direct all future inquiries to the Department of Environmental Concerns.
    Sincerely,
    Commissar Donna Brazeal. New Party for a New America

  • Andrew

    New Fox Poll shows one point separating Obama and McCain.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    He reps my district it will be nice to have him GO.

  • Andrew

    Call your congressman and ask that Obama be prosecuted for violating the Logan Act. Here is information about it:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    WooT!!

    HILLARY IS POTUS

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Turn this on
    crank it up and sing

    WE HAVE HILLARY
    I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vw6F3Sf-PGw

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Dudes! the DNC ROOLZ say she has to support the party, it is at the chairs will to put her in nomination IF she has demonstrated she supports the party, that means holding fundraisers

    again we have NO idea what the GOP has on him, the press has done nada to vet him, who the hexx knows what will come out

    what I do know is being sure it wont happen is a good way to kill the chance we have..

    you will notice no Big Dawg there for him and no abundance of appearances from Hill either

    she DID help get 9/11 responders bill passed and signed and is fighting for women and BC right now, a wee bit busy doing her JOB while Uhhbama is on his world tour….

    professionals know what you need to do to work and you got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run, you never count your money, when youre sitting at the table theyll be time enough for countin, when the dealins done..

    Uhhbama is counting his money at the table

    PRIDE GOETH BEFORE THE FALL

    HILLARY IS POTUS

    WooT!!

  • TeakWoodKite

    I’m not joining in on that. It’s too destructive

    In for a penny in for a pound, AnninCa.

    What is so terrible about the outright demise of the Democratic Party? As Carville said, if they won’t defend each other, who will believe them? I don’t.

    As far as the “expense” of the AA community, that is not a problem. It is a choice a group of individuals made and in doing so, can sleep in the bed they made.

    It does not mean you lose any humanity in the process. Seems to me Zee has a valid point about the “meme” going around. Apparently, Dean and Nancy don’t think it is a long shot, or they wouldn’t be overtly screwing the rank and file over.

    As I said, there would be new talking points after the netroot convention.

  • Lou

    Breaking NEWS~

    15 Obama delegates have now gone over to Hillary’s side. 160 delegates left to go.

    PUMA-working under the radar.

  • Lou

    Morning Q has died. Go to pagam powers blog and see. Ask them to continue on talkshoe please.

  • Dawnelle

    what’s that some kind of TRANSCENDENTAL MEDIATION?? heh!

    OMMMAANOTTAGONNAVOTAFOROBAMA

  • Can’t stand Obama crybabies.

    Again, why are these countries opening the door for this person? Is it not enough to watch him at home doing this?

  • Dawnelle

    I don’t have Pagan’s site bookmarked. Do you have it handy?

  • TeakWoodKite

    16:00 @ Berlin time the poster said.

  • imustprotest

    I agree. It’s not us against the republicans this time. This is a coup from within. Is it from the lefties? Corporations? Maybe…..Chicago machine, most definately. Who is behind the Chicago mob? Daley, Rezco, Soros, other unknown foreign interests? Whoever they are they will do anything to win power. Which means they need to be stopped.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Médias européens malhonnête? Ils ont un meilleur bilan sur exposant la propagande des médias américains.

    Désolé, mon Français est mauvais.

  • Brodie

    I’m sorry, but I don’t get AT ALL why some of you think it is too late for Hillary. The GE “season” actually starts AFTER the convention and the vote for the ACTUAL nominee. Why are some of y’all falling for the meme that this is over? Just because they want you to believe it, doesn’t make it true. McCain is obviously just hanging back until the conventions are over, so why all the fuss over the time line? People act like this has never happened before and that we ALWAYS know who the nominee is before we even vote for them- what a load of crap. That’s what Hillary was trying to say when they freaked out in the media & accused her of suggesting bad things about poor baby ‘bama. Gosh- isn’t 3 months enough time for an articulate, prepared candidate to make their case? Exactly why must we have this endless campaign and lock-step march to unanimity? What the hell happened to dissent? I’m not a Repub., I was a rocker in the 60′s (still am), in an integrated band in the 70′s in the South and have voted Dem. my whole life. My friends can’t believe I’m threatening to vote for McCain this time because Nobama is such a threat to all of us. I only will if I HAVE TO. But why would I have to if we can have a legal and FAIR convention? SDs SAYING who they’ll vote for is not the same as voting. It is not over. I also don’t believe that black people won’t vote for Hillary, because I don’t think all members of any group agree 100% w/each other. That’s just more spin. The heck with it- patriotism isn’t about doing the easy thing, it’s about standing up for what is right for our country. At this moment in time we can’t afford to have a Prez. Nobama because he is too inexperienced and has really bad judgment in choosing friends & positions which would translate into more problems rather than the solutions we need. I’m all for visualizing the outcome we desire- which for me is Hillary being POTUS. I say- take it to the convention. Keep up the pressure to reveal the truth. Refute the lies and talking points. Resist the meme. Ya know- McDonald’s has told me a zillion times that “I’m loving it”, but that hasn’t made me eat one hamburger, and I never will.

  • justme

    Yes there was a FREE concert in Germany and he will be speaking to the crowds and breaking bread in the inntermission! and seeing how many want to follow him to become fishes of men…

  • imustprotest

    Obama’s people are pushing hard on voter registration. They want an huge influx of new, younger voters registered. I hope somebody is really checking the “new” regististrants to make sure they’re not coming from the obituary pages and graveyards!

  • TeakWoodKite

    La pluie en Espagne se situe principalement dans les plaines?

    Pourquoi ne Obama pense qu’il est en train de parler anglais? Aaah ummm Ahh ummm….

    temps pour le déjeuner!

    :0

  • TeakWoodKite

    awful or ugly?

  • Zeke

    Verrry good!

  • imustprotest

    I understand your frustration madamab – it’s like when Obama & co. kept saying he voted against the war….but he didn’t…the media kept repeating the lie….obamobots keep repeating the lie….pretty soon the rest of the nation forgets that he didn’t vote against the war and they believe it too, no one even challenges it anymore! Same with this, they keep saying that he “won”, MSM echos, everyone believes! Propaganda as simple as that.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Well said madamab.

  • Zeke

    Love ya brother. Thanks for all you and your fellows are doing. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU!

  • imustprotest

    Walk on the moon…..I’m sure Axelrod already has it in the works. Can’t you hear Obama….”One small step for ME and one giant leap for mankind (not womankind, let me make that clear. …uhhh..if anyone thinks..uhh…I have the notion to include women…uhh…in my giant plans…uhh…they would be wise….uhh…to …uhh….think of ….uhhh….(Houston we have a problem.)

  • mimi

    I am going to make this like the classic movie: “Ten Little Indians… And Then There Were None…”

    All those responsible for Obama are going down.

    Until finally….

    And then there were none….

  • Zeke

    Ann,
    Why ridiculous? Bill lost his license for lying. What we sometimes FAIL to understand is that Barry and his peeps are sticklers for rules. Damn! Inattention to rules has placed us all in this state of jeopardy in the first place. When faced with a deceitful foe, it is only good strategy to attack with all available weapons thus forcing him to react to you, not the other way around.
    Disbarring that sonofabitch would go a long way to assuring that he loses.

  • Zeke

    Always on point Little Sure Shot!
    Thanks!

  • perries

    fricking brilliant post anon! How come anon has all the best quotes?

  • imustprotest

    I’m going to defend Zee and Anninca. Zee has come down hard on some lately but I don’t blame him/her. We’re dealing with pretty dirty tactics here and the trolls day after day, stealing identities, taking names that sound like PUMA names….Anninca should not be surprised at Zee’s comment and questioning. I’ve have read many of Anninca’s comments and found them thoughtful and informative. I have noticed a change, gradual change in her tone. I think it started around the time of the “Vote Obama or Die” t-shirt post. PUMAS and NQ was really slammed as being crazy fringe and I thought I sensed a different tone, kind of a distancing or playing “devil’s advocate”. Maybe a second guessing of an association with this site and what that would imply?? Of course it just be coincidental timing wise and I’m sure Ann, if she reads this, will correct me if I’m wrong! I do think that disagreement and discourse is healthy. I just don’t think namecalling or telling people to leave is helpful in the long term for our goals.

  • imustprotest

    I’m going to defend Zee and Anninca. Zee has come down hard on some lately but I don’t blame him/her. We’re dealing with pretty dirty tactics here and the trolls day after day, stealing identities, taking names that sound like PUMA names….Anninca should not be surprised at Zee’s comment and questioning. I’ve have read many of Anninca’s comments and found them thoughtful and informative. I have noticed a change, gradual change in her tone. I think it started around the time of the “Vote Obama or Die” t-shirt post. PUMAS and NQ was really slammed as being crazy fringe and I thought I sensed a different tone, kind of a distancing or playing “devil’s advocate”. Maybe a second guessing of an association with this site and what that would imply?? Of course it just be coincidental timing wise and I’m sure Ann, if she reads this, will correct me if I’m wrong! I do think that disagreement and discourse is healthy. I just don’t think namecalling or telling people to leave, or fighting amongst ourselves is helpful in the long term for our goals.

  • workingclass artist

    Funny that….and the narrator has GOT TO BE that same guy who does the Smuckers ads….his voice is so seductively safe & friendly…no ?

  • mahaska

    Reverence? Oh, he doesn’t mean the wall. He means for him.

  • imustprotest

    Sometimes the biggest egos are brought down by the smallest of things. I agree, hit him with anything and everything, you never know what this could bring out into the light of day!

  • Hope Floats

    Holerin’? I bet he picked that up at Punahou… folks.

  • mahaska

    And don’t forget, they’ll need high def tv’s before February.

  • Hope Floats

    I wish McCain would just man up and pick Olympia Snowe. Millions of Clinton supporters and one issue voters can take a hike. I’m tired of the conservatives giving McCain a hard time for the Gang of 14 while Obama is hailed as a uniter not a divider.

  • mahaska

    She’s not being rude. I’ve seen your posts change over time. I think you are just more subtle than most fakers here.

  • mahaska

    True, my mother in law posted back east in their home town from California.

  • mahaska

    What a dick. Substantive success, well if it doesn’t result in an increase in your numbers, here in real world that means it’s a failure.
    They keep pushing and pushing. they can’t figure out that it’s over for bo. He’s done. He can go sit in a padded room and keep thinking he’s president.

  • pasmalltowngirl

    Oh, that is an insult to Native Americans.
    How about ten little “monkeys” – politicians jumping on the bus, one fell off and bumped his head. Momma “Pelosi” called the “Dean” and the “Dean” said. “Obambi don’t need him. just throw him under the bus.”

  • mahaska

    I’ve been tempted to use King Henry’s line myself. I can’t take much more of the asshat.

  • mahaska

    Ann I have to hand it to you. I agree with Zee. Your posts are very subtle but I have seen the change in your rhetoric. Hillary doesn’t need fake friends.

  • mahaska

    Your answers today are starting to shwo the symptoms of the pod people. I’ve seen the, you’re so angry line so many times in the pod peoples post.

  • Zeke

    Kiki,
    Hang in there. The media is lying. You must remember that. They are not reporting the truth. Barry isn’t gonna get there.
    Polls are very inexact when done correctly but when they are manipulated, become just propaganda tools.
    Every one of us gets down about this sometimes but do not surrender. Instead, do what all us PTSD guys do… get pissed off and get after it. Eliminating the cause of stress relieves the stress.
    Focus solely on defeating Obama.
    Pay no attention to the media fools behind the curtain.
    To quote someone who Obama could never even stand in the shadow of, “We shall overcome!”

  • mahaska

    You hit it dead on. But you have to admit, Ann did a great job of sneaking up on us.

  • mahaska

    Not according to his old teachers. They said he couldn’t speak it.

  • mahaska

    Yeah, what she said.

  • mahaska

    oh, you’re cruel.

  • Zeke

    Israel has a national skill. Its called survival. They don’t tolerate any threat. Obama is a threat to them in that they know he’s really pro-muslim. No amount of lying and ass kissing will change that with the Israeli’s.
    They understand these things better because their “Pollyanna” was gassed in 1943. A potential threat to Israel is dealt with as though it were an actual ongoing attack.
    They cannot wait, as America USUALLY does to be attacked and then react. They got lucky a couple of times, primarily because they have probably the best pilots in the world. (Sorry Air Force guys but its true, They start ‘em a little younger, thus, quicker reflexes.) Preemption for Israel is almost always a necessity.
    Additionally, I would not be at all surprised if they don’t hit Iran’s nuke sites. The risks for them so outweigh the risks to America that we sometimes don’t see that they are always in a state of imminent destruction.

  • mahaska

    Hey wait a minute. My gramma used to say that in Slovak!

  • workingclass artist

    Sometimes a person just has to take a jump…Being a MUGWAMP
    can make a person’s ass sore…no?

  • workingclass artist

    MUGWAMP = FENCESITTER….Old style political term…

  • Zeke

    Well, after all, it IS Chicago….

  • mahaska

    Will he be standing in an open Mercedes when he enters Paris?

  • Fred C. Dobbs

    Mason Adams, the actor?

  • mahaska

    He’ll have baked Halibut, the masses will have balony sandwiches.

  • MsSoAnd So

    Obama is my congressman. Should I send to him anyway? (Anything to be a thorn in his side is amusing!)

  • mahaska

    Fred let them dangle in the wind. by that I mean let them look up their own stuff. If a person and I use the term loosely, wants to play that, just tell ‘em “look it up”

  • mahaska

    Can’t he just pull it down and walk on it atraight out of his car?

  • mahaska

    The truth is the AAs who are going to vote will and the others won’t. That is how it is. Registering is not the same as voting. There are people who always vote and they will. I’ve never met anyone who stayed home cuz they didn’t like the candidates. That’s silly.

  • mahaska

    Well that expalins all the Nigerian email scams. Who knew they were just being polite.

  • mary

    ARE THE TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR SENATOR OBAMA’S TRIP OVERSEAS TO BOOST HIS SAGGING DEAD HEAT STATS WITH MCCAIN?

    ANDREA MARTIN, OF ALL PEOPLE, COMPLAINED THIS WAS A STAGED EVENT AND HIGHLY UNUSUAL, UNETHICAL FOR OBAMA NOT TO HAVE ANY REAL INTERVIEWS, BUT JUST PHOTO OPS WITH SOLDIERS AND PLAING BASKETBALL!!

    THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE IS VERY PRESUMPTUOUS….THIS WILL NOT HELP HIM AT ALL. COME NOVEMBER, THE NEANDERTHAL WILL GET IN.

    IT’S THE BUMBLING BEE VS THE FUMBLING FOOL!

    HILLARY DIANE RODHAM CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT ’08!

    go Pumas, roarrrrrrrrrrr

  • sakel

    Angela Merke, thank you for your steadfast refusal to allow this moronic Obamyopic fool to lecture at Brandenburg.

    Let Him lecture at the Fuehrer’s Victory Column, far more suitable for this misoynist frat-boy who agrees with Bernie Mac that all “mothers and sisters” are….”FAMILY HOs”!!! And I ain’t messin with ya!

    The Obamarama Show’s most memorable Victory Column act:

    “ICH BIN EIN BEGINNER”

  • sakel

    Angela Merkel, thank you for your steadfast refusal to allow this moronic Obamyopic fool to lecture at Brandenburg.

    Let Him lecture at the Fuehrer’s Victory Column, far more suitable for this misoynist frat-boy who agrees with Bernie Mac that all “mothers and sisters” are….”FAMILY HOs”!!! And I ain’t messin with ya!

    The Obamarama Show’s most memorable Victory Column act:

    “ICH BIN EIN BEGINNER”

  • sakel

    ginaswo:

    loved your lines:

    We have Hillary….
    I’ve got all my Pumas with me….

  • sakel

    THIRD PARTY IS DESPERATELY NEED.

    Nothing gets accomplished with 2 party-system. How do you think the Canadians got their National Health Care/Universal plan back in 1965! Tommy Douglas, an NDP member pushed a Minority Liberal government by Lester Pearson into signing this tremendously historic legislation that Hillary tried to emulate in the 90s, but with venom of the right-wingers wasn’t able to get the green light..The lady had a real opporunity to do so, and her plan is a million times better than the dumbed down pseudo-universal plan of Obama that leaves out 20 million Americans. But, the sexism of the media pushed this fraudulent candidate to an unreal finish line…

    Third Party Pumas would make sure this does not re-occur!

    Hillary ’12

  • Northwest rain

    This is also how I feel about the election.

    At this point we can see that Obama is a sure bet to lose in November. There is no way that Dean & Donna & Axlerod will allow Hillary to be the nominee — the game is fixed and has been since the beginning.

    However, we cannot allow the DNC to select and then force their will on America. At this point in time Obama is a dangerous untested and unproven candidate.

    So we have to send Howie Dean and Donna etc. a message —

    Country First

    The Republican primary voters were so damned smart — they selected the ONE candidate that democrats will vote for in November. The democrat side also chose a strong candidate — Clinton. But the DNC selected Obama.

    I’m glad that the Denver Group is making a stand — hopefully they won’t be taken over by the Obama collective.

    PUMA

  • pew

    Glenn Beck, questioning Obama’s Birth Certificate

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/12701/?ck=1

  • JP49

    Well I don’t think its too late for Hillary to receive the nomination. After all, our wonderful DNC set the timeline and nothing is concrete until the convention. The DNC knew why they set the timeline further back because they had their MAN picked out. Tough titty. Hillary will take off like a jet if she is the nominee and we’ll be behind her 100%. If the AAs don’t want to vote for her well then OK. There are plenty of independents and also many republicans who aren’t that keen on their own party anymore. I am pissed at the AAs right now because they helped to throw this nomination to this dangerous idiot just because of the color of his skin. How stupid is that. Of course lets not forget our own dear PRAVDA (Mass News Media whores) who trampled Hillary every day with such glee it was unreal and wouldn’t tell the truth about Obama for the lives. I believe our superdelegates need an ass whoopin. Its time for us to get them the hell out of the party along with Dean, Donna and the like. People need to inform themselves about the candidates (I don’t mean the color of one’s skin) before they vote or just don’t vote. Not being an informed voter means we could be electing a terrorist and not realize it and I mean that in all sincerity. If Obama gets the nomination then its McCain for me. I will note vote for any ticket containing Obama’s name. I will never vote for any of the congress or senate dems again (except for Hillary). The democratic party is 99% dead. I don’t want this dangerous obama anywhere near my White House. Who can even tell if he is actually a U.S. citizen. No one in my lifetime has ever ran a more secretive campaign. Don’t ask this, don’t ask that.

  • Wisewoman

    I am AA and I wouldn’t be horrified I would be extremely happy. My people have been made a fool of by Obama. If they found out the truth regarding Obama’s race-baiting tactics, they would metaphorically speaking tear his a$$ to pieces. He would have to be “protected” for the rest of his life. We don’t play that race shit in our community. Obama knew how blacks felt about this issue which is the reason why the racist lie worked so effectively against the Clintons in SC and in helping him during the primary process.

  • Wisewoman

    By the way your conclusion about how Bill and Hillary handled the false racism charges as being the correct way to go is bullsh*t. I do believe that Bill understood right away that that charge should not go unanswered but should be refuted. He started to try but I am almost sure Hillary told him to let it go. At the time i told my sister it was a huge mistake because I knew how sensitive my people are to racist charges. Its an emotional, deep cutting historical, pain. I detest Obama for using those false race-baiting tactics. I will never vote for him and yes I will remember in November.

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