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By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on July 24, 2008 at 3:00 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Big Oil, Environment, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Gas Prices, Hillary Clinton, John F. Kennedy, John Kerry, Media Bias, Republicans, Superdelegates, US Senate

Obama continues his Master of the Universe tour,today landing in Germany. He has a big ol’ speech planned to wow them in Germany, and to get their votes. Oh, wait – they can’t vote for him! No matter, he is bound and determined that he will get massive support there. He even went so far as to come up with a handy little poster for them all in German and everything! Of course, that is because his campaign BANNED any other posters. Yes, he did. He is trying to act like JFK, but I think he might remind the Germans of some other leader instead with his stringent requirements and grandiose expectations. But that’s just me.

Meanwhile, back in the United States, the US Senate is actually in session!! I bet you didn’t realize that since Obama is on his World Tour! But Obama not being in the Senate does not stop him from claiming credit, falsely, for one of the big committees in the Senate, the Banking Committee. He flat out said – with hand on his chest to make the point – that the Banking Committee is HIS committee! Here’s the kicker – he ISN’T EVEN ON IT!!! Wowie zowie – with all of the lies this man has told about his experience, especially his legislative experience, it is sure a good thing that his supporters have finally woken up and realized what a lying, conniving, scheming, Chicago-style politician he is!!! Oh, wait – that hasn’t happened yet. But we can hope that SOMEDAY they will realize they have been had. Of course, it would help if the media actually did their job to facilitate that awakening. This is me NOT holding my breath.

So, yes, the US Senate is in session, and there is someone who has been knocking herself out for her constituents, and all Americans. Oh, shoot – I have already given a clue by the use of the pronoun. I can assure you, it is not Claire McCaskill, one of Obama’s sycophantic “my children convinced me” supporters. No, of course not – you know who it is. Hillary Clinton.

That’s right, Hillary Clinton is currently fighting in the US Senate to get us relief from these exorbitant gas prices. Oh, and to argue against offshore drilling. What a silly little woman – worrying about the little people! Yet, she spoke about this on the Senate floor:

Senator Clinton urged her colleagues to support The Stop Excessive Energy Speculation Act to provide short term relief to Americans feeling the pain of rising fuel prices and also called for bold new steps to break the nation’s dependence on fossil fuels and achieve long term energy independence based on clean, renewable alternative energy.

Say WHAT? Gee willikers – it seems that all of her talk during her campaigning wasn’t just TALK! She CARES about these issues because she cares about us, energy independence, and the environment. Well, I’ll be darned! She went on to say:

“I believe we can lower gas prices in the very near term by taking smart, practical, sensible steps to address rampant oil speculation,” Senator Clinton said. “And let’s lead our nation to embrace the great next American endeavor, a national effort to change the way we produce and use energy. It’ll serve our economy. It will strengthen our security. It will bring us together as a nation.”

Oh, she just needs to stop – energy independence AND economic recovery? It’s madness, I tell you!!! Maybe that’s what Jim Cramer of CNBC’s “Mad Money” responded EMPHATICALLY when asked by Ellen Degeneres which candidate would be best for the economy: “That’s actually, hands down, Hillary Clinton.” HERE is the link for the interview on YouTube.com. It’s short, but powerful.

But Senator Clinton doesn’t stop there, oh no. She goes on to tackle the issue of offshore drilling:

“Drilling is the wrong answer. It will do nothing right now. It is literally a Shell game, or an Exxon Mobile game. It’s designed to serve the political interests of vulnerable Republicans and the financial interests of profit-rich oil companies. Average Americans will not see a dime,” Senator Clinton said. “The oil companies say, ‘Drill,’ and the President and the Vice President say, ‘How deep?’ I don’t think that’s the smartest, most effective answer.”

Crazy talk, I tell ya! WHAT is she thinking?? Energy independence? Get the economy on track?? NO offshore drilling?!?!? She is out of control!!!

It seems there is some precedent for these wild ideas of hers:

Senator Clinton has previously cosponsored the Petroleum Consumer Price Gouging Protection Act and the Close the Enron Loophole Act, which would protect consumers from unscrupulous energy profiteers and increase transparency in the retail and wholesale markets.

What has gotten INTO this woman?? Concerned about price gouging at the pump? While ExxonMobil continues to rake in record-breaking profits?? What is WRONG with her?! I swannee, as we say down here in the South, she just seems hell-bent on HELPING people! Not in self-promotion! Or being Master of the Universe and pretending to be former American heroes! Good grief.

So, Senator Clinton was on the floor, talking away, pushing this:

Senator Clinton outlined her proposal to create a Strategic Energy Fund to jump start research and investment in clean energy technologies to promote job growth, energy independence and a cleaner environment. She also underscored her support for providing energy relief to low-income families in New York and across the country. Senator Clinton has long been an advocate of fully funding the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP).

How dare she? She wants a program that will help the people of New York and all Americans? Including low-income people?! She has just gone too far. Apparently, she did not get the memo that her REAL job was to engage in narcissistic, selfish, egotistical, arrogant, CYA actions, not to actually do things that would HELP people, the economy, and the environment! Well, no wonder Kerry, Reid, Dodd, et al, in the Senate didn’t want her!! It has all become clear to me now!

Grrrr. So, to recap: Obama is off on his European vacation on TAXPAYER’S dime, pretending to be JFK but missing the mark by a universe, and Clinton is in the Senate fighting for US.

Once again, Automatic Super Duper Delegates: PICK THE PERSON WHO IS FIGHTING FOR US, who has the intelligence, the passion, the COMMITMENT, to restoring this country to economic health, and to take us to energy independence. HILLARY CLINTON is the only one who will do that. Grow a spine, stop worrying about getting more money for your pet projects, and DO THE RIGHT THING already. Have some integrity. Have some GUTS. Do not foist yet another Pretender on us. Seriously.

For an added bonus, here is the LINK to her speech on YouTube.com. Get a cup of coffee, tea, whatever your beverage of choice is, and watch a REAL leader, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Andrew

Obama has violated the Logan Act.

He must be punished.

Contact your Senator or Representative and demand charges be brought against Senator Obama.

No one has the right to make a mockery of the United States on foreign soil.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

Diana

Wow! They’ll never do anything. Our laws don’t apply to him.

Bye bye Obambi

Well, the Republicans might, after the Coronation, oops I meant to say, Convention.
Susan

Yeah, he transcends laws.

navyvet48

Energy has a well thought out and written Call to Action for all to participate in involving the Logan Act.

Go to the following website:
http://stellarvoices.wordpress.com/ to participate.

Here is more on that action:

President Bush-First your Seal/Now your Negotiating Powers? by energy
July 24, 2008 · 4 Comments
Update: 072308

Contact these six members of the ‘US Senate Select Committee on Ethics’ and respectfully request each and everyone of them to begin an investigation of Senator Barack Hussein Obama (D-Ill) in regards to: (1) Obama’s visit with the Iraqi government discussion of withdrawal time lines of American troops from the region and public disclosure LOGAN ACT-does it apply(2) Obama campaigning on foreign soil as illustrated via a flier written in German with his ‘logo’ and ‘Paid for by Obama for America’ insignia and (3) Obama’s intentional defacement of the Great Seal of the United States.

‘The Select Committee on Ethics’ can be contacted at:
220 Hart Building, United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510.
Telephone: (202) 224 – 2981
Fax: (202) 224 – 7416
ethics.senate.gov

MEMBERS
Barbara Boxer, California, Chairman
Mark Pryor, Arkansas
Ken Salazar, Colorado

Republicans
John Coryn, Texas, Vice Chairman
Pat Roberts, Kansas
Johnny Isakson, Georgia

Posted: 072208
The article below is a motivator to contact every Republican Congressman and President Bush to immediately have the Democratic presumptive nominee Senator Barack Hussein Obama(D-Ill) cease and desist his visit to Europe and the Middle East and be held accountable for engagement in foreign policy talks with world leaders.
Furthermore, action needs to be taken to charge Obama with behavior unfit for a sitting US Senator, impersonating the duties of the Commander-In-Chief regarding US foreign policy with foreign leaders and a possible threat to US National Security, through a congressional investigation.

I cannot think of a more powerful opportunity to have Obama accountable to the State Department;President of the United States;citizens of the USA and removed as the presumptive Democratic nominee and held accountable for overstepping his Senatorial duties. Opportunity and timing is ours right now. Carpe Diem Folks!

Action to contact President Bush that he needs to take formal action against Obama needs to be implemented immediately. Contact the White House at:

Mailing Address
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Phone Numbers
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461 TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121

E-Mail

Please send your comments to comments@whitehouse.gov

CNN VIDEO

Tuesday, July 22, 2008
CNN Reporters: Obama “Presumptuous” & Negotiations Overstep His Authority as a Senator
Last night on Anderson Cooper 360, two CNN political analysts charged that Senator Obama overstepped his authority as a United States Senator in acting as a negotiator with the Iraqi government and publicly disclosing statements made during those interviews.

During an interview with Anderson Cooper, David Gergen, CNN’s Senior Political Analyst stated,

“Barack Obama made the first mistake of his trip, in my judgment, in releasing a statement in which he said exactly what Maliki had said in those conversations.

We have a long tradition in this country that we only have one president at a time. He’s the commander in chief and the negotiator in chief. I cannot remember a campaign which a rival seeking the presidency has been in a position negotiating a war that’s under way with another party outside the country.

I think he leaves himself open to the charge tonight that he’s meddling, that this is not his role, that he can be the critic, but he’s not the negotiator. We have a president who does that. So, I think the underlying facts support him, but I think it would be a real mistake — and I think it was a mistake — to get into these conversations and let it be used politically. “

Gergens comments were later echoed by a second CNN Analyst, Gloria Borger, who charged,

“I do agree with David. And Candy, in her earlier piece, talked about walking the fine line between being this candidate and being presumptuous. And I think that he may just have crossed that, because, you know, it is a tradition. You don’t talk about these private conversations. And it’s not up to Barack Obama right now to negotiate troop withdrawals. It’s up to Barack Obama to be on a fact-finding mission, which is indeed what he has said he was on. “

Gergen and Borger have it right, Senator Obama is not the President and in fact is not even the official presidential nominee of his party. Obama’s trip to Iraq is a taxpayer funded “Fact-Finding” mission in which he has no authority granted to him by congress nor the administration to engage in negotiations. His actions yesterday were indeed ‘presumptuous’ and violated his duties as a United States Senator.

The President of The United States is responsible for the course of foreign policy, and although Obama has the right to question or criticize that foreign policy, he has no constitutional authority to act in a negotiative role with foreign dignitaries.

The current administration is in ongoing negotiations with the Iraqi government concerning the role of US forces in assisting that government; a government that has been strengthened by a ’surge’ that Barack Obama opposed and claimed would fail. Obama overstepped his role as a Senator and potentially undermined ongoing negotiations by engaging in diplomatic negotiations for his political gain.

Obama actions yesterday should be condemned by other members of congress, just as former President Carter’s actions in Palestine earlier this year were condemned by congressional members. Obama is not the President and he is on a taxpayer funded fact-finding mission. Senator Obama’s actions in Iraq yesterday clearly demonstrated his use of this trip for political purposes; the military should immediately pull funding for the trip and charge the Obama campaign for the millions of dollars that this overseas farce is costing.

No Congressional Member has the authority to engage in negotiations or dictate US foreign policy. Yesterday’s actions show a clear arrogance and lack of respect for the office of the presidency and state department.

J Brown

terri

Yup, the Obama clique can’t even wait until the election to start grabbing obscene Executive Power. These pols who call themselves are Democrats are Traitors. They’re Autocrats as evil as the Bush NeoCons.

We need a better Party and better government than we’ll get under Obama.

Hope

What specifically should be included in letters to reps?
Bell’Artista

Yes,
I called the White House in regards to this and spoke to a very interested and sympathetic call taker.

I also faxed a complaint to the Senate Ethics Committee:
fax # 202 224 7416
attn:
Barbara Boxer, CA.,Chairman
John Coryn, Texas Vice Chairman
Mark Pryor, Arkansas
Ken Salazar, CO.
Pat Roberts, KS
Johnny Isakson, GA

This Fraud must be stopped
Your tax dollars are paying for his preening self obssessed spectacles and making a laughing stock of America.
http://youtube.com/user/NLee777 N. Lee

Found this in my email. A soldier sent it to an internet friend and wanted her to pass it around. It is about what he witnessed when Nobama visited Iraq. Don’t know how authentic this letter is, but wanted to share.

Here is the letter:

Hello everyone,

As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that
Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to
“The War Zone”. I wanted to share with you what happened.

He got off the plan and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to
meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram. As
the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn’t say
a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General.

As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top
tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights)
so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned
the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service. So really
he was just here to make a showing for the American’s back home that he is
their candidate for President.

I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here
you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing
for you. I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the
Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the
President of the United States. I just don’t understand how anyone would want
him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be
around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what
kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

In service,
CPT J. P*****
Battle Captain

JP49

Great article. I love Hillary Clinton. I love President Bill Clinton. Two actual democrats. Not the trash posing as democrats in our congress and senate today.

RepublicanChick

Not the trash posing as democrats in our congress and senate today.

This is the truth and I’m not just referring to Democrats. There used to be a time when a difference could be shown on the national level between the parties. Certainly there are differences when voting on social issues, but lately you cannot tell the difference between either party.

There is no backbone in most of our elected officials.

You get what you voted for.

We deserve better folks!

SueB.

“You get what you voted for.”

No I don’t! I NEVER do. Well, almost never. :/

nancysabet

Thank you Hillary, you are my hero and a real American hero. While you are working for us, Obambi is rediculing himself in fron of bunch of Germans who are listening to his lies.

Here is a bad news for obambi:
Internet Group Anonymous Files Bar Complaint Against Obama
Anonymous announced that they have filed a complaint with the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission requesting an investigation into false statements and misrepresentations Barack Hussein Obama made on his own bar application.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Anonymous’ complaint alleges that by consuming illegal drugs Obama was violating New York Penal Law Sec. 220.06, which criminalizes cocaine use.[1] If proven, that level of drug use is a felony. Commission of such a criminal act is ethically prohibited as it reflects adversely on the lawyer’s fitness to practice law. See Rule 8.4(a)(3). The complaint further alleges that Obama engaged in multiple violations of Illinois Rules of Professional Conduct (”Rules”), including Rule 8.1 which prohibits lawyers from making a statement of material fact in connection with a bar application that the applicant knows to be false; Rule 8.4(a)(4) which prohibits lawyers from engaging in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation; Rule 8.4(a)(5) which bars lawyers from participating in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice; and Supreme Court Rule 771 which prohibits lawyers from engaging in conduct which brings the courts or the legal profession into disrepute.
Read the rest of the filing here: http://countusout.wordpress.com/

Zeke

These rules seem to also be applicable to Obama’s fraudulent loan application for his Rezko House.
Perhaps that should be tacked on.
As “Lying” ‘brings the courts or legal profession into disrepute’ he may also be chargeable for anything he has been caught fibbing about while campaigning.
What a long list that would make!
C.S.

IF Obama didn’t register for the draft that would also be breaking the law he swore to uphold as an officer of the Court.

This guy has less of a papertrail than a newborn infant! HOW? WHY?

Shainzona

Did anyone….anyone….actually call him out for his Banking Committee claim? What was the WORM on that one?

http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

Calling Obama out on any of his ~~lies~~ misspeaks proves that you are a racist. You should know better.

Hillary ’08
Annie Oakley

Has anyone asked Sen. Dodd for comment?

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

I think Dodd is busy covering his own Countrywide VIP loan discount taking axx…

frakkers
elise

I sent an email to Dodd yesterday asking whose committe it really was. I didn’t expect a reply and didn’t get one. Will tne media step up with a challege? Doubt it. Jim VandeHei was on FOX news today and his report of Obama’s trip and speech in Berlin was glowing. I never log on to Huffpo now and haven’t watched MSNBC for months. Does anyone know what they are saying there? I watched the speech (all that I could stomach) and I thought the reception he got was a little on the cool side.

beebop

He said he meant the BILL that came out of the committee. Uh huh. (clears throat) The bill he played a role in was LAST YEAR and had a very small part of this one … the part that Bush threatened not to sign as a result of its inclusion!
Postmaster

On Fox last night, I think Hannity and Colmes, it was brought out about the Banking Committee lie.

PGraber

Thank you for a wonderful article. It brought tears to my eyes and gave me goosebumps. She is absolutely the best.

workingclass artist

agree…it is good reminder ( sigh ). Now if someone would only Man Up and put that embarrassing Juvenile Fascist in place and tell him to quit this charade….Unfortunately, all my appeals to the Blue Fairy and Santa have been ignored….I guess Obamabots have overun the wishful thinking sites..

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Thanks, PGraber and WorkingClass…Glad y’all liked it.

She really is something, isn’t she? AMAZINGLY, she is taking the SAME concepts she had on the campaign trail to the Senate! Are tehy even ALLOWED to fulfill their campaign promises? If Obama is any indication, that is a resounding NO!!!

I miss her. I miss hearing someone who really IS brilliant…

fred

If McCain pick Crist as VP he gets my vote and here’s why look at Crist record

Health Care Cover Florida: $150 a month plan for 3.8 million uninsured. (Mar 2008)

Energy & Oil $200M package for solar, wind, & biofuel from citrus. (Mar 2008)
Propose almost $70 million on alternative energy development. (Mar 2007) GOVERNOR CRIST ANNOUNCES E85 ETHANOL NOW ON SALE TO THE PUBLIC AT TURNPIKE’S TURKEY LAKE SERVICE PLAZA

Civil Rights Florida Gov. Crist Makes History ended permanent disenfranchisement of Florida’s 600,000 ex-felons who’ve paid their debt June 18, 2008 · Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said Tuesday that more than 115,000 former offenders had regained their voting rights after the state revised its rules last April. The governor got a hero’s welcome from the group “The first black governor of the state of Florida,” said Rep. Terry Fields, D-Jacksonville.
“People don’t have to come to me,” Crist http://www.sptimes.com/2007/02/21/State/Crist_may_restore_rig.shtml

Free Trade Opposes NAFTA; supports tariffs; opposes Fast Track.

http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

Wow! He sounds interesting.

Too bad he is teh ghey. The Republicans don’t like that. Doesn’t bother me, though.

K Lynne

I thought I heard he was recently engaged?? Possibly a move to deflect speculation and make him more palatable to the Evangelicals…
Susan

I have also heard the gay rumor, and I really don’t care – but you are right, for Republicans it’s a problem. But I also heard from my Aunt that lives in FLA that he’s getting married. So, whether he’s straight, or just going to stay in the closet, maybe he’d be a good VP candidate. And anyway, Obama has his own gay rumors, so who knows.

Dawnelle

I lived in FLA when Crist got elected. I didn’t vote for him but he’s turned into a pretty good Gov so far…. and of course he defended the right for FLA to re-vote (I’m sure there was MUI politics involved but he did it well)

If HILLARY isn’t somewhere on the D ticket I would consider voting for McCain/Crist

Mary Kay

Crist is okay… Except for his pushing of Amendment One. What a joke that turned out to be. Police, fire-fighters and school teachers are now getting laid off because Crist pushed for a supposed “property tax” amendment which only ended up saving everyone about 200 bucks BUT the impact has been devastating to our local communities. Fees are going up and people are losing their jobs.

I don’t think I want Crist as VP. He’s too much of a political opportunist in my book. He has done some good things, but he’s not been here very much since he’s been supporting McCain.

Oh, and by the way, Amendment One was the reason so many Floridians showed up at the polls in January. Don’t let the Obama campaign tell you that we did not have a good turnout down here. We had a great turnout due to that amendment on the ballot.

Dawnelle

if McCain is truly only running for 4 yrs than Crist is perfect.

He’d lose next to Hillary

I read the VP must first do no harm.

Who else? Pawlenty? yack, Jindyl? too young and inexperienced

I mean McCain should want to WOW the PUMAS (there are enough of us to make a huge difference for him)
jmo

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

be careful Crist, we know how the first black POTUS got turned on..

roseeriter

Hillary has class,
Hillary has the smarts,
Hillary is still the one.

Disappear Obama, disappear.

Can’t stand Obama crybabies.

Wow, there she goes again. Take note SDs…HRC is actually working!!!!
Dawnelle

*Poof*

Where is David Copperfield when you need him?

PuppyDogMom

Priceless!

Andrew

WASTE OF MONEY!!! YOUR MONEY!!!

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/63_say_trip_does_not_make_obama_more_fit_to_be_president
Annie Oakley

The other day I saw Obama speaking about the need for jobs and relief from energy price inflation – in Iraq. He might try and build a record of accomplishment domestically before he takes on the world.

Thanks for sharing with us what Hillary is doing. Sigh.
SEC

I like that Clinton is standing up for Democratic values, just as Obama spoke about in Germany.

Democratic values.

http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

Yep barky talks a good game but doesn’t have the backbone to back it up.

HILLARY DOES!

Hope

If you consider gaffes, lies, and misinformation strewn together between incoherent uumms talking a good game.
beebop

I think he has a very good future as a wind tunnel ….

Joe

Pretty soon, the Messiah will claim to be in all of the Senate committees. He must have one of those magical time pieces that Hermione Granger at Hogwards School of Wizardy uses to take several classes simultaneously.

http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

barky is already the dead of every committee it’s just because of his modesty that he ALLOWS the others to take some credit.

http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

Sorry head not dead that would be wishful thinking.

Dawnelle

lmao simply freudian dahhhlink
roseeriter

oops…lol!
Susan

It’s easy to be the Chairman of every committee if you never have to hold any meetings.

Dawnelle

in Obamaland he is the HEAD OOmpaLoompa of every OompaLoompa Committee.

Dot

I sincerely believe the american people are doomed. Obama acts as though he is the “Great One”. Boy is he in for a shock. I hope he loses in November and is run out of town humiliated. HE IS AN IDIOT and a WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. The only thing he is any good at is being a typical politician, that he learned from his co-horts in Chicago. The city is full of them.
Andrew

Nasty comments Obama made about America

-I know my country has not perfected itself
-we struggle to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people
-our actions around the world have not lived up to our intentions
-we have made our share of mistakes

http://noquarters foxyladi14

IN THE OLD DAYS HE WOULD BE CALLED
A TRAITOR FOR THAT

http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

The Obama campaign chose the holliday tax break as attack line. The media followed. Another progressive idea shot down bt THE Precious, like Universal healthcare. Now he is chirping about some break for the oil companies disguised as consumer break.
In 2000 W ran against Gore the same way: mimicking his ideas, coming out with sound-alikes. The media would praise his, ignore Gore’s, lie about them being close in the polls…
If you don’t believe Obama is the new Bush, just watch WSJ: in their poll analysis they compare this election to 1980 – where McCain is Carter and B0 – Reagan! Anything to contradict the very numbers they are looking at
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/is-unease-something-like-malaise/
Sharon

Wait for it, folks – of course, we won’t have to wait very long – the bot “truth squads” will be out in force:

“How dare that witch Hillary Clinton USE her position in the Senate to stand up for this country and its people! It’s grandstanding, I tell ya, plain and simple – so typical of her – especially when she should be home in bed licking her wounds because SHE LOST. The only reason she’s doing this is to show up our precious – she never misses an opportunity to make our savior look bad – or to threaten to kill him, of course. You notice she’s doing all this “posing” in the Senate while the messiah has to be out of the country on his world tour – presidential business!” (foul language removed)

Appearing soon at a big orange crap house near you!

http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

Wow – did you transcribe that directly, Sharon?

Great job. LOL!

http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

You see, this is why Hillary Clinton won the base of the Democratic Party and more primary votes than any candidate in history.

She is a Democrat.

End of story.

Dawnelle

no better than that

she is a Patriot

justme

She looks out for the little people the ones that are bitter and twisted….. the blue collar worker, the waitress working 2 jobs to put food on the table, the hairdresser, the machanic, the small business, the family with no health ins
and yes all of us here.

Up with the H and down with the o…

WE STAND STRONG AND TALL FOR HILLARY R CLINTON

Maybe Samantha on this trip with the o she can just wiggle her nose and he will shoot off to some distant land?
workingclass artist

she is both….nuff said

Dawnelle

I know we’re probably making her blush. She better get used to it.

Or do something totally uncharacteristic of which I won’t even make a considered thought

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

I agree with all of it, except Hillary’s position on drilling. If not for being in the political position of having to support her party’s POTUS nominee, she might be in favor of more offshore drilling.

China is going to start drilling less than 90 miles from Florida to help Cuba extract oil. We need to protect our resources.

Drilling is not going to increase gas supplies tomorrow, or next year, but it will increase them for our future. Had we started drilling during the clinton years, we would have more supply, and be less dependent on foriegn oil right now.

Drilling is not the solution, but it is part of the solution. All energy sources, gas, coal, nuclear, and alternative sources such as wind and solar need more development.

The US has the largest known natural gas and coal reserves in the world. Those alone would end our dependance on mid east oil.

Technology to use those resources need to be developed. Tax incentives are needed for development, and would create jobs.

Natural gas is cleaner for the environment than oil. Technology exists to convert vehicles to run on CNG. But, regulatory red tape, and a stubborn auto industry are inhibiting any progress.

Clean burning CNG is available now at the equivilent of around $1.00 per gallon, compared to gasoline. Fleet vehicles for cities, such as busses, are being converted. Most existing personal vehicles can be converted for $1,200 – $2000. But the EPA has an approval cost in the hundred thousand dollar range for approval for a single model vehicle, year and engine.

There are things we can start doing right now today to lessen the impact of burning fossil fuels, and ensure sufficient energy for the long term future.

Stubborn political posturing, and caving in to protect automakers is not going to get us there.

http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

Sorry, there is zero upside to offshore drilling. In ten years, when we would see the benefits of such activity, our entire planet could be in global meltdown.

We need to go into crisis mode now and start developing alternative technologies. Enough with catering to the oil industries. They have made enough money and polluted our planet enough. They need to drag themselves into the 21st Century already.

alexei

Exactly. The electric car is the way to go now. That means we can use the savings that Clinton states (6.5 million barrels of oil per day; equal to one-half of our imports) while consumers pay $1 per gallon equivalent in electricity. Wow! Also, the planet is better off because even with our existing coal fired plants, we emit one-third less green house gases. Wow! This is the right way to tackle our immediate problems. With these savings, we then do her plan and create 5 million green collar jobs and really do an Apollo project for energy and be energy independent. Won’t need to send our blood and treasure to invade to protect resources such as oil in unstable areas of the world. What a holistic, comprehensive and realistic proposal.

Doesn’t mean that we don’t also look at other options. Clinton has always stated that the internal combustion engine is the oldest non changing technology we have – I agree – let’s get our young scientists and engineers working on solutions to this. And let’s not forget high speed trains and other forms of mass transit. Hillary Clinton gets it and works hard to get these solutions in place. Obama mouths platitudes and caves in pressure and nothing gets done. The real visionary is Hillary who also is practical, so we can expect that what she says will be done.

http://www.oohnuance.blogspot.com madamab

Yup! And the best thing is, we already know how to make an electric car, and Tesla Motors is improving the technology.

There’s even an Air Car being made overseas. It actually runs on compressed air! It is supposed to come to America in 2009 or 2010. Awesome!

kenoshaMarge

Good grief yes. Why on earth, and for the earth do we cling to the internal combustion engine as if it was the end of all inventions?

Do woman still wear whale bone corsets? Are men still wearing spats and waxing their mustaches? For crying out loud why are we mired in the past?

Answer: Cause big oil wants it and government is owned by big oil. And big pharma and all the other big corporations that our government is aiding and abetting in robbing out country.

Oh, off topic but did ya hear that the Chrysler Building has been sold? And Budweiser is now owned by a company in Belgium. And poor little Donnie Trump’s seaside mansion has been purchased by an Oil Sheik.

The United States is one giant yard sale. We are a joke!

A. Nony Mouse

Electric cars are a possibility but there’s one that’s even better, and the technology already exists. How does the equivalent of 106 MPG sound?

So, why aren’t we hearing about compressed air powered cars? Why isn’t the media full of news about the topic?

Because the corporations focusing on hydrogen technology and battery-powered cars are special interests, exactly like big oil. They know there’s a far more efficient means of energy storage and transfer that doesn’t require what they hope to sell.

If you don’t know about compressed air technology, please check out the article below. This is no pipe dream. This is something that will arrive on the market in the next two years, if corporate America doesn’t figure out a way to kill it.

http://gas2.org/2008/07/15/an-air-car-you-could-see-in-2009-zpms-106-mpg-compressed-air-hybrid/

A. Nony Mouse

Picture this: Solar and wind power feeding the existing power grid. (See Pickins Plan) You plug in your compressed air hybrid with an extension cord to fuel up over night. Your car now runs on clean, inexhaustable solar and wind power.

The same inexpensive compressor technology could use cheaper, off-peak-hours electricity to charge up a compressed air tank in your basement. You could use it to fuel up your hybrid in a matter of minutes. You could also use it in reverse, drawing on the tank in your basement to generate household electricity during peak hours when grid electricity costs more.

You wouldn’t have to encourage people to make the switch. They would make the switch because it would quickly pay for itself, and keep on paying.

There would be no need for any other national greenhouse gas strategy than this. We would solve our energy problem and the greenhouse gases problem simultaneously, and the whole deal would pay us, rather than the other way around.

alexei

All great and yes I knew about these. Are there all kinds of options – this is really a technological renaissance. What I like about Hillary is she knows about these (Policy wonk extradinaire) and she is practical enough to get us there both by using short and long term solutions. Don’t forget about geothermal. New technology is now showing that electricity can be generated from this even in cold climates such as Alaska.

This is the most exciting times – Hillary is right – we can do this and enough with the no sayers and the Luddites.
A. Nony Mouse

It occurs to me that any candidate who wrapped up that entirely do-able package and articulated it clearly to the American people as a certain road away from our problems and toward long-term prosperity would definitely have a winning agenda. It’s a formula for a total turn-around.

So how come no one is?

Annie Oakley

Money. They want to keep us down on the farm. If people can start manufacturing energy from their own rooftops, instead of sending those checks to oil companies, where will the money come from to buy senators? Eh?

http://Dinocrat Dinocrat

Agreed. I like cheap oil just like anybody else, but if oil prices go down, people will start to be waistfull again and behave as if there’s no tomorrow.

http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

I have an idea dinocrat.. why dont you get your nose out of other people’s lives.

Who the hell are you to tell someone what they can and cannot waste if they feel like it.

james

It’s only good sense to discourage people from wasting what there’s a limited supply of, when that supply is currently essential to the common good. If there’s a serious drought, for example, you can’t have half the population of a city obsessively watering their lawns.

People understandably don’t like intrusion. But that goes both ways. Some people’s idea of behavior that’s “within their rights” has an intrusive effect on everyone else.

http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

I agree with Johnny on this.

alexei

I don’t. Why give more money to the oil companies and speculators to drill off our coasts in order to get 200,000 barrels a day in 2030? How does this tax money/ for this Luddite endeavor that can be used to implement Clinton’s plan help us now or even in 2030?

Because the Chinese are proposing this doesn’t make it the correct way. Believe me, you wouldn’t want to be living in China now – your health would be in extreme risk. Peak oil is real, the price of oil will rise again due to supply and demand not the speculators. That means, we do have to think out of the box and develop alternative technologies.

Thankfully, there are a lot of small innovative companies that are working on this and we can immediately start with the electric car and other sources to heat our homes and businesses. We are on the cusp of an energy renaissance, we only need the political will and thus, the funding to bring this about. Hillary Clinton is right – enough of the Luddites – let’s go with the clean, energy resources that this Country has in abundance.

elise

alexie, there was a documentary last year, “Who Killed the Electric Car?”, and it was fasinating. This is from Wic.

“Andrew Card (frm Bush Chief of Staff) was lobbyist behind the recallThe film details the California Air Resources Board’s reversal of the mandate after suits from automobile manufacturers, the oil industry, and the George W. Bush administration. It points out that Bush’s chief influences, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, and Andrew Card, are all former executives and board members of oil and auto companies.

A large part of the film accounts for GM’s efforts to demonstrate to California that there was no demand for their product, and then to take back every EV1 and dispose of them. A few were disabled and given to museums and universities, but almost all were found to have been crushed; GM never responded to the EV drivers’ offer to pay the residual lease value ($1.9 million was offered for the remaining 78 cars in Burbank before they were crushed). Several activists are shown being arrested in the protest that attempted to block the GM car carriers taking the remaining EV1s off to be crushed.”

Two of the owners were Ed Begely Jr. and Tom Hanks. Both of them said they loved the cars and Begely hid his and refused to give it back.

A. Nony Mouse

China is going to start drilling less than 90 miles from Florida to help Cuba extract oil. We need to protect our resources.

Uh, wouldn’t what’s just offshore from Cuba be Cuban resources?

Maybe the republicans should have let us normalize trade relations with Cuba like the democrats suggested a long time ago. It looks like one of the big pay-offs of that particular republican policy will be China cozying up to Cuba and cornering access to Cuban oil.

So the Cuban people will prosper from an economic relationship with China instead of the United States, and have more exposure to Chinese ideology than our own.

Once again, republican pig-headedness bears fruit!

Zeke

Thanks for nuttin’ comrade. Go pedal that socialist crap someplace else.

A. Nony Mouse

It ain’t socialist crap, friend. It’s truth.

Cuba will gravitate into the Chinese sphere of influence because they have something to offer each other.

We could make an even better offer.

Nothing sells the idea of freedom like being exposed to its benefits.

alexei

I agree. We should be leaders with the new technologies and exporting to countries like Cuba (and not by exploiting and/or embargoing).

Freedom is the most powerful motivator once your basic needs are met.

Hope Floats

Everyone keeps talking about these new technologies like they’re already abundantly available and cheap. They’re not. We are still working out the best new directions for energy, and little progress has been made – totally the Republicans fault. Oil still dominates as our primary energy source, and it will continue to.

We are in a recession right now. We can’t afford to invest heavily in alternative energy yet, though it sounds great. In the mean time, why are we letting China drink our milkshake? There are billions of barrels of oil along the OCS, and our coasts are protected more, if we use up-to-date extraction technology v. moving the oil. That is what causes spills.

We also have shale oil in CO, MT, ND and UT. Lifting the drilling ban would be a boost to our economy. It would create jobs. It would rein in oil speculation. A lot of Democrats are in favor of domestic drilling, and I see only good things coming from this. And I am opposed to drilling in ANWR. I think Clinton is wrong on this issue, but I still like her.

A. Nony Mouse

One thing I don’t get is why the oil companies don’t seem to be interested in drilling on promising land where they already hold leases, that aren’t subject to offshore drilling restrictions. They’ll lobby hard not to lose their exclusive control of that public property, fight any use-it-or-lose-it bills tooth and nail, but they won’t drill there.

If they were working the land they’re already allowed to use I’d probably be much less skeptical about their motives when they push for offshore development.

That offshore resources would take a minimum of ten years to go into production makes me wonder, also. That’s about the same time it would take for large-scale solar and wind generation to get up to speed. At least that’s what I’ve been hearing and reading.

A. Nony Mouse

My suspicion, btw, is that big oil wants to initiate offshore drilling that won’t produce for 10 years because they see enormous profits to be made from the Chinese and Indian markets. In their heart of hearts they know that the U.S. will be moving away from a petroleum-based energy economy, while China and India are locked into the old dinosaur energy technology for the foreseeable future. It isn’t about solving the current U.S. crisis. It’s about future foreign profits.

Maybe I’m wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time.

BlueTopaz

I think you’re right, just like the tobacco companies.

A. Nony Mouse

Yeah, the American tobacco industry is busily giving other people cancer for a profit now.

It would be a weird reversal if oil went down that way. We’d be primarily on clean and inexhaustable 21st Century solar and wind energy, hydroelectric power, natural gas, etc. Same with Europe. Petroleum would be considered a valuable recycleable raw material, not fuel.

Big Oil USA would be exporting offshore oil for fuel to China and India, raking in money hand-over-fist. That would be very good for the balance of trade, if we could make sure the money actually comes to the United States. But American oil would still be contributing to global greenhouse gas emissions–just by way of China and India. So the profits vs. environment argument would live on.

At least our own economy wouldn’t be at the mercy of the Middle East, or anybody else. We’d have clean air and clean cities. Cheap renewable energy here could also make us competitive again as manufacturers. Maybe we’d eventually be selling choking Chinese and Indians 21st Century American energy technology.

Zeke

Cubans, if you were ever paying any attention, risk their lives daily to escape the repressive domination of the Castro’s.
People who speak against the government of Cuba are immediately imprisoned and very often ‘disappeared.’
Cutting deals with governments that treat their people that way enables them to further control their people and dominate them.
Cubans’ exposure to the benefits of democracy results in their fleeing their own country and coming here with the intent of benefitting from their chance to succeed.
What you suggest is basically the same as protection money. We are to give worthless bastard governments help so they won’t mess with us?
The hell with that

A. Nony Mouse

Our government has cut deals with communist China right and left. The theory there–supposedly–is that by dealing economically with China, we’ll influence them toward moderation and influence their people by example.

So why not the same strategy with Cuba? There are already much closer cultural ties between the people of Cuba and the U.S than between the U.S. and China. Several millions of Cubans already reside here. Trade between our nations would be of obvious benefit to both nations. Opening up relations would erode their government’s control, not ours.

I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’ve just never understood the logic.

Zeke

I can only suspect this but I think it has to have something to do with JFK, the Bay of Pigs and everything in that periphery.
There truly is nothing else I can see in it.
Something went down in the early sixties which has made the U.S. so adamant about it and as someone who lived through the Missiles of October era, I am inclined to side with my country on this even if I don’t know all the specifics.

http://Dinocrat Dinocrat

Yes. This “something” is called Cuban-American voters in Florida!
Clinton Fan

I always wondered if Fidel didn’t have a hand in Dallas…and THAT’s why they can’t forgive him.

It really doesn’t make sense otherwise–we’ve “forgiven” China, the former Soviets, the frigging VIETNAMESE.

He’s a two-bit, tinhorn dictator who used to be under the protection of the former Soviet Empire (who’s your Messiah NOW, Castro??? Bwahahahahaha!!) who’s reduced to trading doctors for oil with that redshirted nitwit, Chavez.

Sure, he acted like an ass, but so did plenty of Russkie leaders, and we got over that.

I lived through those Missiles of October, too, and I remember clearly that Castro didn’t make those missiles, the Russkies did. And now, we welcome them as immigrants–even the Ivan Tony Sopranovich types, it would seem.

Somehow, someway, Fidel’s crew must have had a hand in Dallas. They may not have been the Main Event, they may not have been directly involved, but they must have “helped” in some way. And for this, they cannot be forgiven.

Just a theory. But nothing else makes sense to me. I wish they’d spill the beans before I croak–I’m curious!
elise

Zeke, I also was old enough to more or less understand the Cuban Missile Crisis, but that was a generation ago. Cuba is a small island. US policy toward this entire thing is incomprehensible. I also understand from reading, the Batista government was corrupt and brutal. He took money from the American mobsters who owned all the casinos in Havana. That’s what caused the revolution to begin with and the Cuban people have paid the price all these years.
elise

Do you find it peculiar we still have a lease on Guantanamo Bay? That was an agreement made with Batista and after the revolution the US demanded the lease be honored. JFK and his brother, Bobby were responsible for not providing air cover for the invasion on the Bay of Pigs, but the plan was put in place by the Eisenhower administration,but Giancana and the mafia in the US had reason to be angry with him also. They helped organize the unions for the election and a few months later, Bobby Kennedy as AG began hearings on La Cosa Nostra and the unions. I’d like to point out that it was JFK’s father, Joseph, who had the dealings with Richard Daley and the mob.

Hope Floats

When Nixon took us off the Bretton Woods in 1971, China was the first to follow us into a fiat currency system. They buy our debt in the form of US treasury bonds, it keeps their currency low. They don’t have to import our products, and we outsource our manufacturing to them. They steal a bunch of our defense secrets, too. They keep funding our wars and discovering our cool technology. That system is called Breton Woods II where Chinese owned debt has replaced the gold standard.

Unfortunately, communist alliances like we had in the Cold War with the Soviets threaten our shores. The Chinese have the nuclear threat with our dollar. They could put missiles in Cuba, too. It’s better not to strengthen their government.

I don’t think if the embargo were not in place, the lives of Cuban nationals would be improved. It’s their own government that oppresses its people. Red China is an oppressive regime, also. We keep them as a crucial ally by doing business with them. I can’t see any evidence that Cuba would deal reasonably with us.

Zeke

I always appreciate your observations and agree with on this completely.
Very valid arguments.
Thanks
elise

I agree with most of your points, Hope , and it is a fact we have put ourselves in this position by financing the war in Iraq with borrowed money from China. And as you pointed out, we have exported jobs and imported cheaper Chinese products for over thirty years. I just find it a little curious the imports have been relatively problem free until the Bush administration relaxed the inspections as he has with coal mining and other industries in this country. We have to make a decision about international trade. Products made in this country will be more expensive. There will be more jobs, but will the salaries of workers equal the increased prices. I’m not taking a position on free trade, those are just facts. If we close the borders to Mexico to migrant workers we will pay higher prices for produce, construction and service jobs. I believe this has become a political football and it could hurt our economy if the politicians continue to use it as a wedge issue instead of coming up with a solution that works.

LilRod

Cuba has had close relations with Canada, Spain, Japan and many of the EU nations..and the Cuban people still suffer in a totalitarian system…their poverty level is just a bit better than Haiti.

In a totalitarian govt like Cuba..there is no trickle down benefits for the people. The money being made is being deposited in the Cayman Islands and in EU..and in some Middle Eastern countries.

The cupola is getting richer and richer..and the yolk of totalitarian controls are not easing up.

In all of these years that the Castro brothers have been trading with EU “democracies”..there has been no freedom to the people of Cuba..just more people putting their lives on the line by trying to cross the Florida Straits toward FL

It is a matter of principle that we should not benefit from dealing with such a despicable government…as I am ashamed that we deal with China and other suppressive regimes/governments

LilRod

PS.. BTW the US is already the fourth largest exporter of food stuffs to Cuba.

elise

Zeke, there was a report today Cuba may allow the Russians to build an air base there. Why are you afraid of communists anyway? Capitalist countries seem to be more aggressive, especially when it is about the natural resources of other countries. And the Chinese have not invaded a foreign country in centuries.

Zeke

I have been an enemy of communism my entire adult life and shall continue in that vein until its end.
Since you have obviously been sleeping for all of the twentieth century, maybe you could Google:
Stalin
Khruschev
Mao Tse Dung and the Great Leap Forward
North Korea
There are extremely valid reasons for my position.
If you are still in support of communism after that, then either you are a child whose knowledge of history is non-existent or you’re just another fool who will believe that theory equals application.

elise

Don’t be insulting. This is an entirely new experience for me to be called a communist. I am not defending their ideology and I am not stupid or uninformed and I have not been asleep. What I am trying to point out is the aggressive behavior of our country as opposed to China and Cuba. We are not even morally justified in condemning another form of government and not just due to Iraq and Vietnam. If you want to talk about abuses of human rights, I will agree with you those countries have a very poor record, but at the risk of being misunderstood again, I will say our history is one of aggression. Toward the Native Americans, the Philippines, Mexico and Iraq are just a few examples. There are many events in our history we have reason to be ashamed of including the assassination of Patrice Lumumba and several attempts on the life of Castro. We have become the bullies in the world due to the enormous power our government has. We involve ourselves in the elections of other countries, especially Latin America, yet our elections have been flawed for years. My view is simply different from yours. The threat of communism was used in much the same way Bush has used the threat of terrorists. People built bomb shelters in the 50s for crying out loud and their was a balance of power then. The Soviet Union could have been afraid of us. Have you ever even considered that idea. We are the only country in the world to have used atomic bombs and Gen, Macarthur wanted to go on and nuke China while we had a chance. That and his big mouth was one reason Truman fired him. I still hear people say that about other countries without concern for the consequences to millions of innocent people and possible destruction of entire cultures. I ask you again, why you consider the communists a threat to us? Do you think it impossible to co exist with different forms of governments in other countries and if you don’t, what do you propose we do about it? Bring Democracy to the world? By force? No. Theory does not equal application and every revolution in history has betrayed it’s cause including ours unless you are in agreement with the way the constitution has been ignored. We are the biggest threat to our freedom. We are losing our free press and our Civil Liberties because we have taken for granted that it can’t happen here. We must remove the mote from our own eyes before we pluck it from someone else. If we don’t see clearly the reality, we have no chance to live up to it’s promise. I will not be distracted that easily. We have a huge military and fifty percent of every tax dollar we pay goes to the defense budget. Bush even convinced people Saddam Hussien was a threat. If we stayed within the charter of the UN, we would not be there now. The “neo cons” want to do away with that international organization because we can’t completely control it (although the veto in the security council has often effectively silenced dissent).China has done the same in Tibet and the Chinese people are not allowed to protest their oppressive government and Castro has done the same, but as Hope pointed out, we refuse to trade with Cuba not with China. The policies toward Cuba for years has been dictated by a relatively few immigrants and the consequences of their actions, those in their own country have suffered. How can that possibly make sense to anyone?

james

They kinda stepped on Tibet. But yeah, I do see your point.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

That was not just Republicans. Democrats have not pushed for normalized relations either.

If we do not establish and document the extent of the fields that exist off Florida, the Chinese will use diagonal drilling to tap US resources as well as the Cuban Resources.

Even T Boone does not say that wind can be made into the only source of energy. Solar can only supplement other forms of energy.

Fossil fuel, like it or not, is going to still need to be used. We can reduce the amount we use, but short of a new nuclear technology there is no single source of energy capable of replacing all others.

elise

Johnny, as long as we believe we have enough fossil fuel from any source, there will be no incentive to replace it with environmentally friendly fuel. Fossil fuel is not a renewable resource and we have to begin speaking in terms of alternative energy because the American people will continue the lifestyle we have until we are forced to give it up.

Sen. Clinton is telling the truth and sometimes it is scary. Ford Motors just released it’s earning and it is at an all time low because they are still manufacturing SUVs and gas guzzlers when the price of gas has gone so high it is effecting the budgets of a lot of households. Drilling more is just digging a deeper hole (excuse the pun).

This is do able. Ford will probably be cutting more jobs, but a whole new world is waiting to be explored and it will create new jobs.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

It’s called leadership and backbone.

Even new oil deposits will not sustain our energy needs forever. New oil is only going to meet a portion of our needs and that portion should become less and less.

Anyone who thinks wind is a panacea and will eliminate all other energy is not in the reality. Even T Boone Pickens says wind will not be the sole source of energy.

There will need for oil for a very long time to come. Do you want to get it from the mid east, or right here in the USA?

BTW, I am only lukewarm on AWAR, but offshore is much lower risk and safer for the environment. Only 1% of oil spills are from offshore rigs.

Wind is a long way off from significantly impacting where we meet our energy needs. CNG on the otherhand is available right now, today.

elise

Wind is far from the only option. Cold fusion is being researched in France. It is feasible and leaves no radioactive residual. They have a problem with the conduit through the tubes and it could take a few years to solve but nothing will be resloved until people understand and accept the fact we are using up a non-renewable and limited resourse. There is hydroelectric, solar, some scientist are working on supercapacitors that reduce the space between the foil lining by using nanotubes. It’s theoretically possible to create one the size of a small trash can that could give a car battery a charge that would last for a thousand miles. Oil is used for so many things other than gasoline. It a lot is used in the production of plastic products, they are cheaper to make that paper, which is a renewable resourse, can be recycled and doesn’t damage the enviroment.

Ferdberfle

The oil companies need to explore land they are already leasing prior to be granted access to new areas. Half the stuff coming out of an oilman’s mouth would make a better drilling mud than persuasive argument.

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

They have explored it. There is a very low probability of oil there.

They want to explore new offshore areas because of the high probability, and known areas of oil.

It hardly makes sense to drill where there is no oil. Yet the knuckleheads keep insisting on exactly that.

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

I have to agree with you at this point, a big change for me on this position, off the gulf they have spots that would yield oil in 2 years now. I am in NRDC, WWF, WDF, the whole nine yards, but if China is drilling there via Cuba, and we are losing so much production in Alaska (those wells we have are going dry rapidly) we need to do something now….

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

If we do not act, the Chinese can use diagonal drilling to tap our resources off Florida.

james

That’s a bogus story that’s been widely promoted by the people who want offshore drilling policy changed. China isn’t preparing to suck our offshore reserves dry with long, bendy soda straws.

Dick Cheney made the claim in speech he gave in early June. He later retracted it. Rep. Mark Kirk, an Illinois Republican facing a tight re-election battle this year, repeated the false claim during a WLS interview a week later. He subsequently retracted the tale too, when called on to provide a source.

Unfortunately the story has grown legs. It’s all over the internet now. Apparently it’s a lie to useful to die.

elise

If the lie is big enough and told often enough. people will believe. I think that is a quote from Hermann Goering
http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Huh????

The oil indistry uses diagonal drilling ALL THE TIME.

It allows them to reduce risk, reduce environmental impact, and save $$$$ by elimiating multiple platforms.

You don’t really know what you are talking about, do you?

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

They also drill horizontally. Google “diagonal oil drilling” and educate yourself.

helen

every day in every way, Hillary Clinton shows us what our government should be.
the NEW democratic party has failed the country and her people.
the NEW democratic party has to be shut down.
from the ashes of this debacle the REAL democratic party must rise.

COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

PUMA RULES

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

YESSS!

WE HAVE HILLARY
I GOT ALL MY PUMAS WITH ME

LilRod

Hillary is a policy wonk and a WORKER on behalf of the American people.

Still the BEST choice

Hillaryfighter

Another bad poll for Bambi as he continues his world tour.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390301,00.html

Obama 41
McCain 40

He’s in a deep hole. Hitler Youth won’t save his day.

kellie

I wouldn’t be so happy if I were you (which I think god everyday that I am not). If Obama’s not polling well he may start to consider Hillary as a running mate. Then you will be forced to vote against your Queen!
And please don’t waste my time or yours telling me that she wouldn’t accept a VP position, because you all know she would!

Obama/Clinton 08!!!!

alexei

Depends on how far he falls and what brings him down. If it is scandals like the Pay to Play scheme, forget about it. BTW, your master sure can pull your strings! And to think that your master would only consider Clinton if he is not doing well – what a sham.

kellie

Well yeah. Why the hell would he want Mr. & Mr. Clinton running around if he doesn’t have to.

Zeke

Welcome back bitch. Just start the Troll shift didja?
Take a few minutes and catch up before you start spewing that vomit you call thought.
I’m not in the mood to try to explain all that “wipe first, then pull up your pants” stuff today.

kellie

WAH! “Zeke” is that the name your using today?

Zeke

Its the name I always use, I don’t need it sewn onto the back of my undies like you. So, Fruit of the Loom, what do want your sorry ass kicked over today?
That racist bastard you suck up to? His analogy to Hitler? His violations of law? His upcoming disbarment?
Or just to speed things up, should we start in on how utterly childish and gullible you must be to constantly know your Furless Leader is a worthless piece of dung and you must be too to believe him?
Take your pick. You’re screwed any way.

kellie

I used to just think you were stupid. Now I realize you’re crazy, so I feel sorry for you. Now we’re working on disbarment? What about the fake birth certificate, where are we with that? Why haven’t any of the other ridiculous claims that you make on the website ever come to fruition?
Oh that’s right the MSM is keeping you down. Give me a f*cking break! You don’t think Sean Hannity and his cronies would be ALL OVER these stories if there were any truth to them. Wake up.
You’re a J O K E.

Zeke

The joke, you ignorant doof, will most certainly be on you in November. As normally compassionate as I am, I will still be thinking of you, bitch, when Obama is swallowed whole.
You’ll be sitting at your computer, getting on your new, “Obama Was Screwed” blog trying to share ideas on just what Jim Jones put in HIS koolaid so you can share the recipe with your fellow parasites.
You are a fool

roseeriter

Kellie would you prefer John Edwards’ his mistress and baby and Elizabeth and the kids??

kellie

Nah, Edwards is a proven loser. I like Biden. Hillary would be my second choice.

Zeke

Biden, you ignorant fool is a proven plagiarist just like your Boy. It stands to reason you’d pick the same sort of worthless creep for a second choice.
BTW there are a whole bunch of New York Times and Washington Post guys you could go with too.
They like to lie too.
http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Republicans are also hoping Ibama picks Biden. The man is a walking gaff machine.

He never comes off well in public with his pontificating. There is a plethora of C-Span footage of Biden bloviating ad nauseum. He really does like to hear himself speak. It’s a running joke in the Senate.

alexei

Oh my god! It would be just such a devastating and terrible dilemma to have the two of the most intelligent, knowledgeable and yes, can-do people in your administration. Do you even know what the Clinton Foundation is accomplishing? Of course not, you Obama puppet.

Dawnelle

she’s NOT my Queen

she’s my Lady

and

I would vote for her if she accepted the offer because I would KNOW SHE HAD A PLAN.

See, SHE had thought about this from every angle under the SUN and I trust her far more than I would ever trust BAmbi. If she accepted it would be because she FELT it would benefit AMERICA.

That’s all I’m worried about and I trust Hillary before I trust either MCCAIN or BAMBI

but that’s just me

kellie

Dawnelle I’m impressed!
kellie

Actually wait. What plan are you talking about. One that involves a food taster for Obama?

Zeke

That would be a shit taster in this case.

kellie

Shit Taster!! Good one!!

Zeke

I’ll recommend you for the job. You seem able to suck down just about anything.

Dawnelle

I put no stipulations on my above remark and I would never personally suggest any “occupation” to anyone unless they asked me or goaded me.

I am working on the “being goaded” by any one thing.

Barry didn’t survive the goading he got from McCain. Now of course he’s embarrassing himself all over Europe.

So NO, I’m not a fan.

But I do trust HILLARY on a decision like that! I don’t think she would accept it because I personally don’t think Barry will make it to NOV. Too many skeletons. jmo.

kellie

Embarrassing himself, really? HAHA!

YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL MORON!

Wipe the drool off your chin and listen up:

You are wasting your life on this website and so am I.

I know this will make some of you very sad, but this will be my last post until November 5th when I come back and tell you to suck it.

It’s been fun!

Please tell my dear friends, especially Wildchild and Lou I said “bye”.

And No I won’t just be changing my screen name. I don’t care enough.

Zeke

Yea! Woohoo! Yahoo! Yippee!
Do not let the proverbial door hit you in your proverbial ass!
Trollz is Tasty!

Zeke

p.s. SusanUnpc,
Was this better?

Dawnelle

see that’s what happens when you are honest

as Jack Nicholson so aptly said

SON, YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH

esad punk kellie
you little green troll

alexei

Your argument actually makes me think about this, but, I really don’t believe that I will have to make that decision.
ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

ME TOO DAWNELLE!!

BOOYAHHHHHH!!!

WooT!!!!

WORD!!

AYE!

and all that good agreeing stuff!!!

Ferdberfle

I rather doubt HRC would accept. Being associated with him would ruin her reputation. Besides, she doesn’t need him. If he gets the nomination, he loses and HRC can run again in 2012. You silly bots just don’t get it because you only listen to the voices in your head.

kellie

You are living in fantasy land. She said herself she wanted it.

Zeke

I thought you said you were going away…you lie just like your Furless Leader

Thinker

She’s a liar just like Obama, lol

Ferdberfle

She did not say that, you brain-dead vegetable.

mahaska

She wouldn’t stoop to be his vp. Moot anyway, he will never be president anywhere but in his cobweb infwsred mind.

mahaska

s/b infested

no waffles aka drkate

I;m relieved that it will never happen. Bambi will have to be dragged across the finish line, and because of his arrogance and shame he would never ask her. The party leaders won’t either.

And if he loses, which he will, the party will all blame clinton.

don’t underestimate her intelligence.

you are a stoopid troll and must be desperate to be here. I love the smell of fear in your comments.

Thinker

I sense a whole lot of fear in these Obama trolls. They say we are crazy and delusional, and act as if this site is not a threat, but they come back here over and over and over.
I know they are scared Obama isn’t going to win.

candymarl

That evil Hillary. She’s trying to pass legislation to help the average American. What is she thinking? I mean honestly. She’s trying to get us all at least temporary relief from high gas prices. She’s proposed legislation to stop another Enron debacle.

She’s proposed legislation to end our dependence on foreign oil.

Well that does it. Trying to help someone other than Corporate America (see FISA) is beyond the pale.

I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!
pew

Puma should start there own game.

Start with the 50 States.Have one person from each state pick 3 friends that will pass the word,about voting against Obama. And those three friends pick 3 more friends and so on, and so on,For every state of America. That way the news gets out faster,and it will make a movement.

Andrew

You mean 57 states right. Go away Obamabot.

pew

I’m not for Obama, I want Hillary to win. I just thought this would be a good way to get the word out faster for the puma gang, without having to spend lots of Money on advertising. Let the people do the advertising.Don’t ever call me that again. I’ve always been for Clinton.

Dawnelle

we get quick on the draw around here sometimes

blame Annie

(chuckle just kiddin Miss Oakley)

http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

The only problem is I only know TWO people who are voting for Obama (very stubborn about it too…he is the dem nominee)but I have a very long list who will be voting McCain, both dem and rep.

Susan

Simliar polling in my personal poll.

Zeke

I was at a ballgame the other day and couldn’t believe my ears! Darn near everyone there was putting Obama down.
My team lost and it didn’t even bother me. I made about twenty new anti-Bama friends.

Dawnelle

I did my own personal protest when I (and even my MOM) went down and tore up our DNC cards in front of the Librarian! (she said she had been getting a lot of that lately, this was back right after the rbc meeting of course)

NOW, after all the news (mostly the news that’s NOT being covered) if for some strange fluke Barry thinks he needs Hillary and can behave like a gentleman long enough to get her up on stage with him and the crow d goes nuts……….. I’ll watch that

I’ll probably vote need more convincing to pull the lever however. I would trust Hillary might be able to ………… wait what am I saying?

forget it
I wave in and out on how I really feel. My heart says one thing my head says something else and I just hope I don’t have to worry about that possibility of VP.

time for a break

Zeke

Dawnelle,
Sometimes I wake up in the night thinking what if he does get in…
Then I chuckle to myself and go back to sleep.

LilRod

Same here..personal poll…in my office..Only one sticking with Obama (one out of 2 AAs)..all others going to McCain here in FL
Buzz Latte

Six members of my family are voting for McCain, as first ever crossovers to the GOP side. One voted for FDR!

A straw poll was run in my state the other day. Obama maintained 1% – you read that right – 1% of the vote. Now there’s a reality check since Obama won the caucus in April.

Obama is already in the bargain bin marked down to 75% off.

BluDawg

No Obama
http://firefox AnnieCarmel

I go with T. Boone Pickins’ strategy…all of the above. More emphases on natural gas and wind/solar but drilling too. We have to get crackin’ (uh, not the Obama kind).

Wonder where T. Boone is putting his money?

alexei

Why waste time, resources and money on old technologies that have the distinct potential to cause severe environmental degradation and does nothing in the short term nor even in 2030 to help in prices or supply? That is Luddite philosophy. Drilling doesn’t even offer that much in job creation.

Let’s back the real solutions proposed by Hillary Clinton that will create at least 5 million green collar jobs, provide a stable and affordable energy supply and reduce/eliminate our dependence on foreign energy while protecting our Planet.

PuppyDogMom

Rev. Amy…once again you have written a terrific piece. Everything you have to say is absolutely right on the mark. HOW in the world do you get this information to the Super Delegates? I can’t believe that there 165 of them out there that can understand this and are willing to stand up for what is best for our country.

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Thanks, PuppyDogMom! I really appreciate your kind words…

Well, it seems that SOMEONE is paying attention – over at Will Bowers PUMA site, more SDs have switched to Clinton. It seems that we are being heard, and heck – Obama is doing PLENTY to derail himself. But, really – Clinton is the only one out there who will really try to effect change that affects US. IMHO, that is…Thanks again!

Zeke

I am very interested in knowing what WILL work in energy independence. Much as I would like to think that additional oil produced from the U.S. has its negatives, I believe that we must shake a little of our ideals regarding this matter to reflect the degree of damage done to America by its current dependence on foreign oil.
The complexity of the problem forces us to find numerous answers to these questions. Obviously, renewables must be the focus, but there is an ongoing situation which does not disappear simply by throwing money into a panel to research things we already know but are too afraid to discuss.
We need energy now, not just tomorrow.
So, how to do it…
Solar tech is, so far, too costly. Would increased demand promote new research or would it just pass the energy dollars over to a new group of bandits?
I really dig Wind farms and have high hopes for it, but it is still more costly than other current forms of power generation.
I am now going to walk out on the ledge and say what WILL solve the biggest problem.
They are called Pebble Bed Nuclear Reactors.
Please Google the things and you’ll find that they cannot cause a “China Syndrome.”
If a pebble bed reactor goes ‘down,’ it just slowly shuts itself off without endangering the environment. The tech is there already and in use in South Africa and other places.
Here’s one of the very best parts. The reactors are CHEAP!
No big cooling towers, no giant water source to risk with radiation, none of the bad crap we were all indoctrinated against in the 70′s. There could never be another Three-mile Island using this kind of reactor.
Heads out of sand everyone, Nuke power is again, Very Good for America.
The only real question is can we overcome thirty years of bad press regarding nuclear power and step into the twenty-first century.
I would enjoy responses to this.
Best wishes

alexei

So, are there new technologies to mine the uranium (one of the most dangerous, and environmentally most damaging)? What about the nuclear wastes and their transport and disposal? Do you know really believe that nuclear power is zero green house gas emissions (then you don’t know about the concept of life cycle). What about the risk of terrorism?

Wind and solar power are coming down in price due to many factors; high price of traditional sources, innovation and improvement in these products and increased demand that increases the supply. If the Country decides to go with these types of technologies now, the price would come down very quickly and the pay back for these systems would be quite reasonable.

Why go with older, more dangerous technologies when we have other options? These also would not combat the number one issue of Climate Change.

Zeke

Evidently you failed to Google this as I asked at the start.
The answers you want are in the data. The technology is NOT older. It is brand new.
You’re letting your indoctrination show through.

alexei

I suggest that you provide reliable links to back up your argument and answer these questions yourself, instead of intimating that I am indoctrinated. Perhaps you are indoctrinated against renewables’ costs; be aware that only a pittance has been spent on their development, juxtapose that against billions spent on nuclear. I did perform a quick google: here is one result.

New technology? Not really –
The Pebble Bed Modular Reactor (PBMR) is being re-introduced in an industry effort to revive an all-but-moribund nuclear power technology. The PBMR’s basic design concept, the high-temperature gas-cooled reactor (HTGR), has been commercially abandoned time and again without tangible benefit over the past thirty years in England, France, Germany and with the 1967 and 1989 closures of the Peach Bottom Unit 1 and Fort St. Vrain reactors in the United States. Small HTGR non-power research reactors currently operate in Japan and China. For as many years, the concept has been offered as an “inherently safe” design.

Who is the backer of this “new and improved nuclear technology?

The current PBMR project is a hybrid of these past efforts and is piloted by an international conglomerate of U.S.-based Exelon Corporation (Commonwealth Edison, PECO Energy, and British Energy), British Nuclear Fuels Limited and South African-based ESKOM as “merchant” nuclear power plants, a full-size prototype of a 110 MW module in Koeberg, South Africa. .

Safe?

However, so much credit is given to the integrity and quality control of the coated fuel pebbles to retain the radioactivity that no containment building is planned for the PBMR design. While the elimination of the containment building provides a significant cost savings for the utility—perhaps making the design economically feasible—the trade-off is public health and safety.

and this on past German plants:

In 1985, the experimental THTR-300 PBMR on the Ruhr in Hamm-Uentrop, Germany was also offered as accident proof–with the same promise of an indestructible carbon fuel cladding capable of retaining all generated radioactivity. Following the April 26, 1986 Chernobyl nuclear reactor accident and graphite fire in Ukraine, the West German government revealed that on May 4, the 300-megawatt PBMR at Hamm released radiation after one of its spherical fuel pebbles became lodged in the pipe feeding the fuel to the reactor. Operator actions during the event caused damage to the fuel cladding.

Radioactivity was released with the escaping helium and radioactive fallout was deposited as far as two kilometers from the reactor. The fallout in the region was high enough to initially be blamed on Chernobyl. Government officials were then alerted by scientists in Freiburg who reported that as much as 70 % of the region’s contamination was not of the type of radiation leaking hundreds of miles away in Ukraine. Dismayed by an attempt to conceal the reactor malfunction and confronted with mounting public pressure in light of the Chernobyl accident only days prior, the state ordered the reactor to close pending a design review.

Continuing technical problems including a lack of quality control resulting in damage to unused fuel pebbles and radiation-induced bolt head failures in the reactor’s gas channels resulted in the unit’s closure in late 1988. Citing doubts about reliability, the government refused to further subsidize utility funding and instead approved plans for decommissioning the reactor.

As for wastes?

A single 110-megawatt PBMR will produce 2.5 million irradiated fuel elements during a 40-year operational cycle. Nuclear waste remains dangerous over geological spans of time and a threat to life from radioactive contamination would persist long after a PBMR has closed. The health and environmental uncertainties associated with a historically mismanaged radioactive legacy from continued operation of nuclear technology is yet another reason the public will not accept the PBMR.

Didn’t see that the mining aspect is addressed for this “new design”. I quickly looked at “industry” based sites – looks like same old propaganda. BTW, your concerns about wind and solar industry “promoting a new group of bandits” is less of one to me since the nuclear industry is one of the old group of large mega bandits and have already received billions in subsidies and monopolistic profits.

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

I have been waiting for Uhhbama to flip on Nuke power for Exelon, matter of days now

this the push to raise gas taxes now that oil is dropping, they are going to push it thru, Reid likely supports it and will give them Yucca Mtn…..

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

I thought he already had in one of the debates. I could be wrong, but given his track record, I think not. And the way he re-worked his legislation abt Exelon to make it a strong recommendation makes me think I am remembering correctly…

Zeke

You have some valid points and, as my nuclear education is limited only to the effects and predictability of fallout patterns from Soviet missiles, I will cede them to you. As to the mining, nobody is going to be able to spike that tree. There have been great strides in safety throughout that industry.
Some things you cited are very aged, (1987) and that data can’t be relied on anymore.
There is an author who is smarter than ten of us who could answer these questions where I cannot.
His name is Travis S. Taylor and I think he lives in Alabama. Anyone laughing at that never walked through Huntsville. My guess is that city has the highest cumulative IQ in America.
Any way, Taylor could explain it, I can’t.

Northwest rain

And now we know why Hillary got the Popular Vote!

Donna is a racist Brazile and company could only drag BOBO over the imaginary delegate line (NOT even the number needed to secure the nomination)by cooking the caucus and tricky double dealing. Some votes counted more than other votes — affirmative action.

Someone posted that they wanted a work horse not a show horse as President.

PUMA
JS Ruby

I understood from some news reports that the German crowd was there to see 2 bands perform, not BO. I’ll bet if it’s true, that note won’t be on the MSM tonight.

Why?

Folks said the same thing when Obama drew that huge crowd in Oregon. So would YOU go to a Barack Obama rally IF your favorite band was performing? Its kind of weird logic dontcha’ think. LOL Thats like me going to a Bush rally simply because my favorite group was performing- thats crazy
http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

They were also there for the beer and pretzels. God bless um!

Pragmatist

Maybe he’ll stop off in Kenya and never come back (that would be great)!

PKJayne

If there is a God so it shall be.

PKJayne

Truly Equal @ 201:

I love Obama, but don’t forget about McCain… the latter can win the November with the usual tricks of election stealing and plain old bigotry – some people will never vote for a Democrat, much less a black one.

However, practically the whole freaking world wants Obama to be president, which is carving himself in Churchill mold if his speeches and crowd reactions (200K+!!) are any indication.

Remember the cover of a German (?) newspaper shortly after the 2004 elections that read something like, “how can 200K+ people be so STUPID?” I fear something worse come November

Crooks and Liars has barry’s speech up and these are the types of comments from the koolaide drinkers. May God save us from stupidity.

PUMA

imustprotest

That’s an Obama supporter’s comment, but it’s still not a REAL comment. It’s not an ordinary person just sharing a feeling. Just like here, a PAID obambot wrote that. Their like (I said like not are) lawyers. It doesn’t matter whether they actually agree or believe what they are posting….they are paid to comment and spread the propaganda.

PKJayne

Interesting point Imust
Thinker

Paid Obamabots are out in full force.

lol @ Obama paying the female Obamabots less money!

mahaska

Well if the world wants him, they can have him, I suggest Outer Mongolia.

BluDawg

Germany can keep Obama
Joe Smith

Bizarro Bush-Barack has the equally Bizarro media in his pocket — They would not think of reporting the Chosen One’s blatant lies. Too bad they just never learn.
http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

The Jewish Vote May Be Obama’s Undoing

New Gallup poll data indicate that he leads Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, by 60 percent to 33 percent among Jewish voters.

In 2004, Sen. John F. Kerry won 74 percent. In 2000, Al Gore won 79 percent, about what Bill Clinton took in 1996 and 1992.

Jonathan Sarna, a historian of American Jewry, said that Carter was the only Democrat in many decades who won the presidency — in 1976 — with less than 70 percent of U.S. Jews supporting him.

As of today, Obama is 10 points shy of that benchmark.

http://patriotroom.com/?p=603
Mary Lou

some people will never vote for a Democrat, much less a black one.

Some people will never vote for a meglomaniac, much less a black one (even to try and prove they’re not racist.)
Diana

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/content/Barack_Obama_Die_Highlights_der_Rede/547532?inPopup=true

Look at the McCain signs as Obama is driving by in Germany. roflmao

mahaska

They were out in front of his hotel too. Oh I shouldn’t say his hotel, he’ll think he owns it.

Bell’Artista

As a Jew, and from what I have heard amongst my Jewish family and friends, we are very disturbed by his lack of respect, good judgment and understanding of others in displaying political banners at the Wailing Wall.

We will not vote for him!

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

yes that was really disrespectful and I apologize as an American (since he spoke for all of US today we can now speak for him), I was embarrassed by Uhhbama, he embarrassed all Americans putting propaganda on a sacred spot that way and I am so sorry

maybe he should spend more time on his own manners and worry less about how we speak and appear to the world….
mr. natural

Obama’s marketing has become a parody.

Even his PLO pal, Rashid Khalidi, could have told him this was a bad idea.

wodiej

WOW, EXCELLENT POST!!
BoboBolinski

Its time for America to extend its Presidential election to all countries. We need the rest of the world who see the beauty of Obama to have a chance to cast their vote for our leader. We need to overwelhm Republicans and supporters of Hillary.

Let the whole world vote for Obama!
It’s Me Again

So let me try to recap where we are: BHO and the DNC stole the title of presumptive D candidate from HRC even though most experts had been saying from March that she really had no chance of winning and therefore everybody sucks except PUMA and John McCain. Let’s hope the “whitey tape” is for real to save your sorry asses.

alexei

Man, just because the Media and some so-called big bloggers stated she had no chance of winning, did not make it so. Neither Clinton or Obama had the chance of “winning” the pledged delegates. That means, the SDs were and still must vote for the nominee. I hope that the SDs who previously committed to Obama will have buyer’s remorse and do their function: pick the candidate that has the best chance of winning and will make the best President, Hillary Clinton. That is what Conventions historically did – check out the parallels of this nomination process and what FDR went through.

mahaska

Yes, and may I remind you all of the picture of Truman holding up the newspaper wuth the headline Dewey Wins.

Tumby J

You know, some of us actually do care what the rest of the world thinks of us…and that it does have an impact on our own safety and well-being.
Diana

Oh and by the way there isn’t no million people there watch when they pan out. How they shoved everyone together in a circle, and of course he did do the tearing down of the walls. Between white and black, Christians, Jews, and Muslims. These are the walls we must now tear down.
nobonomo

There are so many similarities between Bush and Obama. Am I the only one that suspects Karl Rove is the real mastermind behind Obama’s campaign?

Ferdberfle

I’ve been thinking along those lines, too. It is unsettling.
It’s Me Again

Yes.

Next question.

Zeke

Rove isn’t the mastermind behind Obama, he’s the guy who’ll lead the skinning party right after Obama is nominated.

kcfromtx

I sure hope so!
Thinker

Rove will destroy Obama.

I get so tired of Obamabots typical statement:

“If ‘they’ had anything on Obama, they would have brought it out by now”

I’m like, no, because Republicans would be in essence, getting the DNC to nominate Hillary, and that’s the last thing they want. They know she is a force to be reckoned with, and they will wait until after the convention to really go after Obama.

Latte liberal for McCain

Donna Brazile has been friends with Rove since 2008 because she wanted to learn from him. So it isn’t Rove behind this, but our very own Rove imitator.

Latte liberal for McCain

Sorry I meant since 2004

Zeke

I’d pay good money to see Brazille and Rove do the cage match thing those wrestlers do.
Brazille has him on weight but he IS one tricky rascal…

Annie Oakley

Yes, Rove and his talented sidekick Donna.

Ferdberfle

Is it just me, or are there a lot of voters getting really sick of this impostor? I refuse to watch the news anymore for all the “journalists” fawning over that pompous asshat. But this little vacation at our expense was the last straw. We don’t need a sociopath with delusions of grandeur making speeches to Germans in Berlin.

mahaska

I only watch the news long enough to make sure I don’t know the people in any accidents. I don’t watch the national news at all anymore. I’m so sick of that ugly face and all the man love spewing from the “news” people.

Zeke

I’m with you Mahaska, only its just weather and sports for me. Oh and maybe those cute little heartwarmers they toss in at the end of the show…
Thinker

same here. I only watch local news to see the weather, to hear what’s going on in my city, and that’s it. I’m so sick and tired of the Obama lovefest. His faux-preacher accent is so annoying.

BoboBolinski

Time to get rid of the Congress and the Supreme Court. Barack really has the Wisdom of Solomon and we should build him a Temple so he can govern while we listen.
anna shane

turns out, it was his I love America speech, the one he needed to give for home, but not for the Germans. I guess he’ll do the I love Europe speech here, that should get them all confused. He also hates poverty and genocide, that makes him different, and Iran can’t have nukes on his watch and we already know no nukes off the table for there, but somehow we still need to end nuclear weaponry, starting with our old stuff and anyone else’s new stuff, but we can seemingly keep our so-called tactical nukes, the ones he won’t take off the table, and he’s all for nuclear power plant proliferation, that’s rather unequivocal, that’s one we know about, and we need to work with Russia, anyway and one way is to make them feel better about him thinking there was a military solution for Afghanistan. I’m sure the world was dazzled, and it has nothing to do with his ethic background, that America isn’t so racist after all, it’s all about all his hopefulness, that’s what always dazzles Europeans, naive hopefulness and no specifics. They love that in their own leaders too.
Katmoon

So in what way does this “tour” qualify the “O” to be president? This is just insulting to the intelligence of the American people. I do not give a flying fuck what support turns out in another country. Obama won’t visit our state, TN ( not that I want him to), because of the history of MLK, however the horrible James Earl Ray was from Illinois, not TN.
But hey we are just bible clutching, gun toting, of average intelligence, racists.
Never mind we put the Women’s right to vote in the Constitution with the tie breaking vote from our state, never mind Clinton Iron Works, who everything they could to meet and deliver the harnessing of the atom, as needed for WWII. Yes we have had our bad things as well, just like every other state.
That’s how prejudice works.. on an assumption. TN is not good enough, but Germany of course is. My generation isn’t good enough, I’m not good enough and my vote isn’t needed.
It really is in your face insulting.Beyond that it is divisive, and destructive, to seek to divide Americans, who are at a breaking point; we want our families home from war, safely, we want to keep, maintain and enjoy the freedoms from our Constitution, we do not want to be pandered to, ignored, “classified:, to this group, that age, all with a label of bitter or racist. We have enough to
work on to get our country in order, the last thing anyone of us needs is to have an egomaniac pigeon holing our opinions, taking away our rights, and abusing our country, our constitution, and We The People, in another country for their own benefit.
It is close to treason in my eyes.

Annie Oakley

Well put, Katmoon. My husband and I have gone from debating the pros and cons of colonoscopy to canceling our insurance (they raised the premium but don’t cover anything anyway). All these years as a Democrat I hoped it would get better. I’m not bitter. I am completely pissed off. We are at a breaking point, but I don’t think Mr. and Mrs. $600 earrings know that.

Clinton Fan

Ignore his bullshit. He’s not ready for prime time, and it’s obvious, even if he does take JOHN LENNON’s song, IMAGINE, and strip away the music and try to pass it off as his own ideas.

As some other web wag said (this continues to amuse), he should have started his speech off with:

ICH BIN EIN BEGINNER!!!!

It’s Me Again

I think John Lennon stole his from JC himself, so tell the IP lawyers to cool their jets.
basil

Ich bin ein Berliner

means

I am a jelly donut! For real.

Ich bin Berliner neabs i am a berliner.

basil

neabs = means

mahaska

hm, neabs sounds good. Let’s make up a definition for it.

Zeke

Is that when your belly hangs over your knees?

Katmoon

Sorry for the double post, got a weird message from Word Press saying I was “posting too fast”?
Zeke

Damn, Kellie…
Did I hurt you widdle feewings?
Good
justsomeone

No, to drilling in ANWAR, Yes to limited off shore drilling, wind, yes, solar, yes, natural gas yes, NO to “clean coal” & yes to a limited number of new nuclear plants. No to turning corn into fuel. Stop deforrestation, subsidize the rain forrests, stop rezoning farm land to sprawl, stop rewarding over population domestically & abroad, nix Bush’s abstainance only programs, crank up the condom factories & be generous with them.

Zeke

a very solid political platform, Justy. When and where are you going to run and how can I help?
ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

oh I agree with all that! let’s implement it shall we, I hereby dub thee Sec of Energy,

bibbido boobido boo!
alexei

Like all but the nuclear and off shore drilling. Add using cellulosic instead of food corn (includes non food parts of corn plant, grasses such as switch grass, sugar cane (as long as no new farms that strip rain forests) and used veg oil.

justsomeone

excuse spellings, etc, I was still editing & accidently hit comment
DancingOpossum

Let’s back the real solutions proposed by Hillary Clinton that will create at least 5 million green collar jobs, provide a stable and affordable energy supply and reduce/eliminate our dependence on foreign energy while protecting our Planet.

God yes. A million times yes. It’s about damn time we stopped aymmering about green tehcnologies and started adoping them. Job creation: What a concept. Who was the last president who created jobs? Oh yeah. Clinton, wasn’t it?

Oh, and the voters are not fooled by the media’s Obamaw worship. A Rasmussen poll yesterday found that over 40% of voters are convinced that the media is in the tank for BO. That sounds great for BO until you remember tha the media gave us Dubya and that our MSM bobbleheads are like children who will drop their shiny toy when they see another, more shiny pretty one–in a heartbeat. And if the public really believes they are shilling for the Precious, voters will REALLY be turned off to him. Nobody trusts the mediabots.
Latte liberal for McCain

OT, help, I was just reading comments under a Tapper article and UGH YICK GROSS I read this worshippy crap by an Obama supporter who gets chills from Obama and now I FEEL DIRTY!!! Cults are scary!

Hillary or McCain 08!

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

no worries

get a groove on from youtube pick anything that gets you up and replace the lyrics with something for Hillary and sing like crazy!

ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

ie

we are family
sister sledge=

we have hillary
i got all my pumas with me

sayitisntso

-I know my country has not perfected itself
-we struggle to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people
-our actions around the world have not lived up to our intentions
-we have made our share of mistakes
Repub ad material
kcfromtx

He insulted our country on foreign soil? Remember what happened to the Dixie Chicks? Why doesn’t he get called on any of it?

Zeke

I think maybe the point we can take courage in is that so many people are looking at Obama now and just scratching their heads.
Those alive when Goldwater got handed his head by the Nuke Scare commercial in 1964 will know what I mean.
Johnson, obviously in league with the Military/Industrial Complex and the man who really gave us VietNam was able to scare America into thinking that Goldwater would lead them to war. Man, did that ever work!
Now we have Muslims all over the world seeing their chance to force the entire world into Submission.
Obama’s poll ratings on foreign policy are abysmal. How many ads need to be run which show him talking out his ass before the country shuns him?
Not many. This election is going to make Goldwater look like a success story.
http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Of course, the differences between the Dixie Chicks and Obama are that: 1. they are not elected officials, much less running for PRESIDENT; and 2. they were RIGHT!!

Sassy

Even Senator Clinton’s enemies admitted that she is knowledgable on all the issues. I will never understand people who are threatened by someone with “brains”! The Democratic Party should collapse on it’s rear for denying a true leader the opportunity to guide our country!
countryfirst

i just e-mailed bush and asked him who the president, was him or obama ? everybody should do the same. i hate bush, never voted for senoir bush either. but, i think president bush needs to put mr. wonderful in his place. he threatens our national security babbling with world leaders. write to bush and tell him to arrest obama when he gets back to our country. i am serious, hes nuts.

mahaska

wow, I’ve been planning to do the same thing.

Postmaster

I just sent an email to the White House asking President Bush to step up to the plate and bring Obama to task for his unethical behavior while on this trip.

Zeke

Methinks they be VERY busy in the email room at the Whitehouse. Incidentally, I truly believe they are laughing their asses off in there. There is SOOOOO much to choose from. Rezko, Auchi, the list is nearly endless. Its like a bucket propped over the door. The DNC and Barry are so unbelievably in the dark (was that racist?) as to the true feelings of the American populous that the shock, when they lose, may kill them.

sayitisntso

Diana, I couldn’t get that link of McCain signs to work.

Diana

Oh I’m Sorry about that, click here and then go to the Obama highlights. There are more videos there also. There is a documentary on him and it has a lot of Hillary footage.
http://www.zdf.de/

Diana

Oh and by the way the documentary has a lot of footage of him with Raila campaigning for him in Kenya.

mahaska

He said while he was there that Kenya was his homeland. This while holding the office of Senator.

meileen

Another great post Rabble Rouser.

I only have one problem with it – it is giving too much info that Obama will soon co-opt as his own.

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Oh, crap – I hadn’t thought of that!!

And thanks for the support!

http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/2008/07/obama-misstates.html Damozel

YOU CITED MY PIECE TO SUPPORT YOUR POINT. It doesn’t.

But I do not agree with you. This was a minor mistake. I DO think Obama has exaggerated his credentials, but this is a MINOR sin.

My point was that McCain has misstated facts in a far graver context.

While I have colleagues at BN-Politics who haven’t come round yet, and may never do so, I SUPPORT OBAMA. He’s not perfect, but he’s a MILLION times better than McCain.

I do NOT agree with the conclusions stated here or with the general tenor of the comments about Obama. It’s way more important to me to rebuke Bush Inc. (of whom McCain intends to be the successor—see his recent statements on drilling, the economy, etc.) than to rebuke Obama.

There’s another name for Dems who support McCain as far as I’m concerned, and that’s ‘Republicans.’ If that’s where you are, fine. But you and I are not on the same team, if so.

Again, Deb Cupples my colleague does not agree. So I am speaking for myself, not the blog.

Sincerely,

Damozel

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Interesting. You want McCain Democrats to allow your disagreement, while you trash us for disagreeing with you. “There’s another name for Dems who support McCain as far as I’m concerned”.

Typical tantrum throwing troll.

sayitisntso

Damozel, You are sincere about nothing.

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag
of filth. As we say in Texas, I’ll bet you couldn’t
pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.

Go away.

Zeke

Pretty good say’so,
I liked the last one best. I try to use comparisons when I chew on trolls. You know, ‘you’re dumber than…” “If — were —, then you’d be —” I find them to work well.
Also, always link them in with their Master but always insult his name in some way. (kinda like garlic to a vampire)
Things like, “you’re just like that asshat boss of yours, dumber than stump.” I’m really cleaning this up but only for instructional purposes. It is also important to be personal in your attack. Make fun of anything they give you… misspelling, dumb quotes, false poll numbers. They’re all good.
Hurt their feelings. They want to steal your country from you so all’s fair.
Good Hunting!
Trollz is tasty!

Catherine

The really sad thing is that when you look into Hillary’s eyes, even in this photo of this link, you see a leader who possesses such authentic love and devotion to America and the people. She is hard working patriot fighting each day for the causes that matter most to all of us- not just the corporate interests. The fact that Obama is out glorifying himself in Europe when he is nothing more than a senator is disgraceful. What has happen to reason and good judgement? It is beyond appaling. I hope Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and the MSM are happy with the way they have contributed to this mockery and have lowered our respect for democracy at home and around the world. The lessons of corruption, bias, hate, and deceit they along with media have modeled to young Americans too naive to know any better is probably what is most criminal of all.

RunningDogLackey

According to NBC, it was the DOD’s judgment that a base visit during the “campaign” portion of the trip would be inappropriate. Obama merely complied.

However, by all means continue to be outraged. It’s a good look for you.

Zeke

Are you the new Troll?

Ferdberfle

He’s the Troll-Wannabe-in-Training (TWIT)

Zeke

me gusta mucho!

Ferdberfle

And the DOD source was?
http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

That was Obama’s assessment, not the DOD’s. That was a press release from the Ibama where he said it would not be in appropriate to visit troops during a campaign tour.

The DOD issued a statement that said Obama would be welcome on the bases. The miltary MUST and DOES give deference to all elected officials.

Since when is a candidate not welcome on a Military base during a campaign tour. They go for photo ops all the time.

Obama spent his evening in the gym at the Ritz Carlton instead of visiting injured troops.

If I were a US Senator and a candidate for POTUS i would say “SCREW YOU” to anyone who tried to prevent me from visiting troops.

Ibama is a narcississtic ass. And you do not know what the hell you are talking about.

DeniseB

So then he’s admitted this is a campaign tour, not a Senate fact-finding one?

http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

Ah, when the real news does not support you, just make it up.

It was Ibamas decision not to visit the troops. Straight from the I-man himself.

The Military must and does give deference to elected officials. We are a republican democracy after all, not a military dictatorship.

I am an ex-Marine, and I can tell you that the Military bows to Congress. They may not agree with them, but they always give them deference.

But, while they give deference to Congress, there is only one Commander in Chief.

Since when has an member of Congress ever been denied a visit to a military installation while on the campaign trail? They visit facilites all the time for photo ops.

Neither you nor your idiot candidate knoe what the hell you are talking about.

Thinker

I agree with you 100% Catherine.

Pelosi, Dean, and Brazile should be ashamed of themselves.

sayitisntso

OStupid makes excuses for not visiting the US wounded in Germany:

Loser!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D924E4KO0&show_article=1
sayitisntso

Gawd, this “Thing” is selfish!
yttik

Obama is so self centered, so grandiose, so absorbed with himself that it’s scary. He’s also naive and full of idealism with none of the wisdom needed to understand the consequences of his actions.

McCain said it all with his “peace takes wisdom” poster. I might not share McCain’s politcs, I might not like his stand on issues, but he doesn’t scare me as much as Obama does.

Thanks to Bush, our country is perched on the edge of a cliff. One false move and we’re heading for disaster. What’s worse then the Bush policies of the last 7 yrs?? Somebody that talks about a pre-emptive strike against nuclear armed Pakistan, (our ally) while promising to unconditionally meet with Iran, (not our friend.)

Peace takes wisdom.

Ferdberfle

Peace also take perseverance, a virtue that Barry lacks.
Zeke

I agree with your assessment of Barry with the exception of the idealism angle. A Marxist agenda is not idealism. The platitudes and spew coming out of his mouth were common stuff in the sixties but he’s just regurgitating the crap he learned on his mama’s knee.
He is no idealist.

Thinker

Hillary is a fantastic Senator.

This is what a REAL leader looks like. To watch Obama pretend to be a leader is painful to look at. He is a joke.

The superdelegates need to come to their senses ASAP.

Hillary Clinton will become the next President of the United States of America.
http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James (San Deigo)

He is running for office, HRC and JSMc have also been AWOL.
yttik, Did the Tenn G. Women get a little too rough for you? Glad to see you running your true colors here; figured you for a fan of McNasty. See you soon at the other site; be ready-you got some ‘splaining to do.