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	<title>Comments on: British Taxman Whacks &#8216;The City&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Sonic Ninja Kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37849/british-taxman-whacks-the-city/#comment-1285179</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonic Ninja Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right, jwrjr.  Matter of fact, they&#039;ve already done this--it was called TARP (and TALF).  TARP was supposed to fix our toxic asset problem (not fixed in the slightest a year later--surprise!) but instead, they handed the money over NO questions asked to all their banking buddies. 

Ha ha--American bankers are so much more ahead of the curve than bankers in other countries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right, jwrjr.  Matter of fact, they&#8217;ve already done this&#8211;it was called TARP (and TALF).  TARP was supposed to fix our toxic asset problem (not fixed in the slightest a year later&#8211;surprise!) but instead, they handed the money over NO questions asked to all their banking buddies. </p>
<p>Ha ha&#8211;American bankers are so much more ahead of the curve than bankers in other countries!</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37849/british-taxman-whacks-the-city/#comment-1285164</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wall Street and Congress can&#039;t follow through since both are bought and paid for by the bankers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wall Street and Congress can&#8217;t follow through since both are bought and paid for by the bankers.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wall Street and Congress can&#039;t follow through since both are bought and paid for by the bankers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wall Street and Congress can&#8217;t follow through since both are bought and paid for by the bankers.</p>
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		<title>By: jwrjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwrjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am simply pointing out that the banks won&#039;t absorb those taxes.  We will.  If you can find some way to make the banks/executives eat the cost of those taxes, then go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am simply pointing out that the banks won&#8217;t absorb those taxes.  We will.  If you can find some way to make the banks/executives eat the cost of those taxes, then go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither the unemployed or [still] employed have any sympathy for the Wall St. crew. And Wall Street obviously knows that [Bloomberg reported the banksters were arming themselves because the poor piggies were a tad worried about the public&#039;s growing disgust].

Will the WH and Congress follow suit? Maybe in some carefully crafted waltz where, with a wink and a nod, the banksters will be assured it&#039;s all a temporary pantomime, a suitable distraction to keep the anger level down.

Why?  Because Washington and Wall St are joined at the hip, Siamese twins in crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither the unemployed or [still] employed have any sympathy for the Wall St. crew. And Wall Street obviously knows that [Bloomberg reported the banksters were arming themselves because the poor piggies were a tad worried about the public's growing disgust].</p>
<p>Will the WH and Congress follow suit? Maybe in some carefully crafted waltz where, with a wink and a nod, the banksters will be assured it&#8217;s all a temporary pantomime, a suitable distraction to keep the anger level down.</p>
<p>Why?  Because Washington and Wall St are joined at the hip, Siamese twins in crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Patience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my initial reaction was &lt;em&gt;It Couldn&#039;t Have Happened To A Nicer [Group Of] Guy[s], &lt;/em&gt;methinks you&#039;re correct, tango.  CPAs in the UK are probably already working overtime to figure out ways to dodge this tax.  And who knows, maybe the whole concept&#039;s purpose in the first place is just political grandstanding, given the current public perception of bankers and their cozy relationship with government.

I&#039;m sick of bankers.  While enjoying such cheap money these days, they&#039;re nevertheless nicking us with high, ever-increasing fees yet paying virtually no interest on savings AND they&#039;ve seemed to stop being in the business of lending money.  In fact, I&#039;ve heard some are going out of their way to find nit-picking reasons to call loans.  Nice work if you can get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my initial reaction was <em>It Couldn&#8217;t Have Happened To A Nicer [Group Of] Guy[s], </em>methinks you&#8217;re correct, tango.  CPAs in the UK are probably already working overtime to figure out ways to dodge this tax.  And who knows, maybe the whole concept&#8217;s purpose in the first place is just political grandstanding, given the current public perception of bankers and their cozy relationship with government.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of bankers.  While enjoying such cheap money these days, they&#8217;re nevertheless nicking us with high, ever-increasing fees yet paying virtually no interest on savings AND they&#8217;ve seemed to stop being in the business of lending money.  In fact, I&#8217;ve heard some are going out of their way to find nit-picking reasons to call loans.  Nice work if you can get it.</p>
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		<title>By: hells kitchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>hells kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that some financial institutions already taken preemptive action by giving bonuses in forms of future redemption</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that some financial institutions already taken preemptive action by giving bonuses in forms of future redemption</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Brits are wimps.  How about taxing everyone &quot;just once&quot; at the fifty percent rate for 2009?  C&#039;mon, Democratically-controlled Congress, do you have the guts to do that?  If it works out in 2009, maybe we can try it &quot;just one more year&quot; in 2010.  Hey, it worked with the death tax, now that is about to be permanent.  &quot;From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.&quot;  That is the philosphy of Obama and our current Congress.
Fortunately for them, most Americans are so poorly educated now adays that we don&#039;t even realize where that philosophy comes from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brits are wimps.  How about taxing everyone &#8220;just once&#8221; at the fifty percent rate for 2009?  C&#8217;mon, Democratically-controlled Congress, do you have the guts to do that?  If it works out in 2009, maybe we can try it &#8220;just one more year&#8221; in 2010.  Hey, it worked with the death tax, now that is about to be permanent.  &#8220;From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.&#8221;  That is the philosphy of Obama and our current Congress.<br />
Fortunately for them, most Americans are so poorly educated now adays that we don&#8217;t even realize where that philosophy comes from.</p>
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;bonus pool&quot;?!?  For what?  Trashing the economy while getting rich?

No sympathy here.

jwrjr, are you contending that those people should be paid off?  Surely I misread you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bonus pool&#8221;?!?  For what?  Trashing the economy while getting rich?</p>
<p>No sympathy here.</p>
<p>jwrjr, are you contending that those people should be paid off?  Surely I misread you.</p>
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		<title>By: tango</title>
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		<dc:creator>tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I doubt there will be much sympathy from the local unemployed person if he hears the bonuses are to be taxed at such a rate. That&#039;s a lot of money.

Ok, I don&#039;t have enough information to know if it&#039;s for payments made from now until April or also counts bonuses paid during this whole year. If only for payments from now until April 2010, if I was a bank, I&#039;d just not do any bonus over the limit. Even if that means doing a quick employment contract change or addendum. I&#039;d pay my people up to the limit (so don&#039;t have to pay the 50% extra tax) and then the individual employee would only have to pay their nomal tax rate on the money received. Then next week I&#039;d do a second bonus right below the limit and then a few days later, a third bonus and so forth.  Sooner or later the government will catch on and make it a cumulative thing, but until then, the British banks could give it a go. OR even better, give a one time bonus of less than the cut off and then wait until April 6, 2010 and give the rest of the bonus. No 50% surcharge.

Now if the bonus tax applies to all money paid so far this year plus going forward until April 2010, then I guess the banks will be stuck for previous payments and my dastardly screw the government out of money plans won&#039;t work. 

Now, I&#039;m an average Joe and thought up a few ways to stop them collecting money, can you imagine that the banks are working hard to figure out how to get around paying the surcharge too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I doubt there will be much sympathy from the local unemployed person if he hears the bonuses are to be taxed at such a rate. That&#8217;s a lot of money.</p>
<p>Ok, I don&#8217;t have enough information to know if it&#8217;s for payments made from now until April or also counts bonuses paid during this whole year. If only for payments from now until April 2010, if I was a bank, I&#8217;d just not do any bonus over the limit. Even if that means doing a quick employment contract change or addendum. I&#8217;d pay my people up to the limit (so don&#8217;t have to pay the 50% extra tax) and then the individual employee would only have to pay their nomal tax rate on the money received. Then next week I&#8217;d do a second bonus right below the limit and then a few days later, a third bonus and so forth.  Sooner or later the government will catch on and make it a cumulative thing, but until then, the British banks could give it a go. OR even better, give a one time bonus of less than the cut off and then wait until April 6, 2010 and give the rest of the bonus. No 50% surcharge.</p>
<p>Now if the bonus tax applies to all money paid so far this year plus going forward until April 2010, then I guess the banks will be stuck for previous payments and my dastardly screw the government out of money plans won&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m an average Joe and thought up a few ways to stop them collecting money, can you imagine that the banks are working hard to figure out how to get around paying the surcharge too?</p>
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		<title>By: jwrjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwrjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Geithner/Ozero does something like this, the banks will find &lt;strong&gt;some&lt;/strong&gt; way to pass it down to the customer.  Businesses don&#039;t need this, and consumers need it even less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Geithner/Ozero does something like this, the banks will find <strong>some</strong> way to pass it down to the customer.  Businesses don&#8217;t need this, and consumers need it even less.</p>
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