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	<title>Comments on: Harry&#8217;s Imaginary Friends &amp; His Dangerously Flawed Health Care Plan</title>
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		<title>By: Obamamania Is But a Dying Ember : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obamamania Is But a Dying Ember : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of FDR. He is fixated on history remembering him at the new FDR. As I wrote the other day in &#8220;Harry&#8217;s Imaginary Friends &amp; His Dangerously Flawed Health Care Plan&#8220;: Have you ever before observed the obsessive efforts expended on legislation whose passage, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of FDR. He is fixated on history remembering him at the new FDR. As I wrote the other day in &#8220;Harry&#8217;s Imaginary Friends &amp; His Dangerously Flawed Health Care Plan&#8220;: Have you ever before observed the obsessive efforts expended on legislation whose passage, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: morris1030</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1285514</link>
		<dc:creator>morris1030</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the hugest power grab ala White House approval ever seen in my long life.

It&#039;s not Slavery Light. it&#039;s Slavery Heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the hugest power grab ala White House approval ever seen in my long life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not Slavery Light. it&#8217;s Slavery Heavy.</p>
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		<title>By: morris1030</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1285513</link>
		<dc:creator>morris1030</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronwyn thanks for a great post. You&#039;ve hit it on the Medicare mess proposed by Reid and the absurdity of adding to Medicare while cutting benefits, and all the other dangerous inconsistencies you point out.

This must be Reid&#039;s swansong.  He simply has to go and should be roundly defeated. His cancer language had to be removed by way of intervention from the American Cancer Society, as it was deceptive and prohibitive to cancer patients.

What other goodies lurk in his garbage laden bill that we&#039;re unaware of?

This bill must be opposed.  Harry must go.
All of this is the result of no leadership from the White House, and a two-faced position from Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronwyn thanks for a great post. You&#8217;ve hit it on the Medicare mess proposed by Reid and the absurdity of adding to Medicare while cutting benefits, and all the other dangerous inconsistencies you point out.</p>
<p>This must be Reid&#8217;s swansong.  He simply has to go and should be roundly defeated. His cancer language had to be removed by way of intervention from the American Cancer Society, as it was deceptive and prohibitive to cancer patients.</p>
<p>What other goodies lurk in his garbage laden bill that we&#8217;re unaware of?</p>
<p>This bill must be opposed.  Harry must go.<br />
All of this is the result of no leadership from the White House, and a two-faced position from Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Reid Inserts Lifetime Limits in Health Care Bill : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Reid Inserts Lifetime Limits in Health Care Bill : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you missed it, check out my December 10th post on the Medicare provision: &#8220; Harry’s Imaginary Friends &amp; His Dangerously Flawed Health Care Plan.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you missed it, check out my December 10th post on the Medicare provision: &#8220; Harry’s Imaginary Friends &amp; His Dangerously Flawed Health Care Plan.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: b mathews</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1285121</link>
		<dc:creator>b mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>harry reid (who is my senator) looks like he wont make it to 2014 either.  too bad because then he wont get to see the havoc he has wrought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harry reid (who is my senator) looks like he wont make it to 2014 either.  too bad because then he wont get to see the havoc he has wrought.</p>
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		<title>By: b mathews</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1285118</link>
		<dc:creator>b mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a registered dem (until 2012),i am hoping they call me for a campaign contribution as i have my answer all ready.  &quot;i will  gladly make a contribution if obama uses it for a one way ticket back to africa&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a registered dem (until 2012),i am hoping they call me for a campaign contribution as i have my answer all ready.  &#8220;i will  gladly make a contribution if obama uses it for a one way ticket back to africa&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each republican amendment is pre-empted by a vote on a watered-down version by the democrats.
The democrats all vote yea, and cover their trail(and tail).
Reid is counting on Vegas odds that many seniors will be dead by the time actual benefits are paid out in 2014!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each republican amendment is pre-empted by a vote on a watered-down version by the democrats.<br />
The democrats all vote yea, and cover their trail(and tail).<br />
Reid is counting on Vegas odds that many seniors will be dead by the time actual benefits are paid out in 2014!</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1285041</link>
		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah LOL LOL LOL HA HA hee hee  tee heeee, who in the hell was talking about 1993?  Not me. I was referencing Bill Clinton&#039;s RECENT advice to his fellow Dems this fall, 2009, &amp; as for my comment about Hillary lobbying for mandatory participation, well hopefully you can recall all the way back to 2008.  See this is so typical...selective memory? Hypocrisy? Denial?  Bad policy is bad policy no matter who brings it forward &amp; raggin&#039; on me won&#039;t change that. But if you&#039;d like some criticism from the oldies but goodies &quot;dial-up&quot; era, try the CRA &amp; it&#039;s quid pro quo, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, or do some of you now think giving mortgages to the uncredit worthy &amp; turning the commercial banks into casinos was good policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah LOL LOL LOL HA HA hee hee  tee heeee, who in the hell was talking about 1993?  Not me. I was referencing Bill Clinton&#8217;s RECENT advice to his fellow Dems this fall, 2009, &amp; as for my comment about Hillary lobbying for mandatory participation, well hopefully you can recall all the way back to 2008.  See this is so typical&#8230;selective memory? Hypocrisy? Denial?  Bad policy is bad policy no matter who brings it forward &amp; raggin&#8217; on me won&#8217;t change that. But if you&#8217;d like some criticism from the oldies but goodies &#8220;dial-up&#8221; era, try the CRA &amp; it&#8217;s quid pro quo, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, or do some of you now think giving mortgages to the uncredit worthy &amp; turning the commercial banks into casinos was good policy?</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1285030</link>
		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah LOL LOL LOL HA HA hee hee  tee heeee, who in the hell was talking about 1993?  Not me. I was referencing Bill Clinton&#039;s RECENT advice to his fellow Dems this fall, 2009, &amp; as for my comment about Hillary lobbying for mandatory participation, well hopefully you can recall all the way back to 2008.  See this is so typical...selective memory? Hypocrisy? Denial?  Bad policy is bad policy no matter who brings it forward &amp; raggin&#039; on me won&#039;t change that. But if you&#039;d like some criticism from the oldies but goodies &quot;dial-up&quot; era, try the CRA &amp; it&#039;s quid pro quo, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, or do some of you still think giving mortgages to the uncredit worthy &amp; turning the commercial banks into casinos was good policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah LOL LOL LOL HA HA hee hee  tee heeee, who in the hell was talking about 1993?  Not me. I was referencing Bill Clinton&#8217;s RECENT advice to his fellow Dems this fall, 2009, &amp; as for my comment about Hillary lobbying for mandatory participation, well hopefully you can recall all the way back to 2008.  See this is so typical&#8230;selective memory? Hypocrisy? Denial?  Bad policy is bad policy no matter who brings it forward &amp; raggin&#8217; on me won&#8217;t change that. But if you&#8217;d like some criticism from the oldies but goodies &#8220;dial-up&#8221; era, try the CRA &amp; it&#8217;s quid pro quo, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, or do some of you still think giving mortgages to the uncredit worthy &amp; turning the commercial banks into casinos was good policy?</p>
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		<title>By: RecoveringDemoholic</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1284982</link>
		<dc:creator>RecoveringDemoholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things my mother and father tried to teach me, and I believe they apply to everything about this administration and legislation.  

No matter how hungry or desperate you are: 
Don&#039;t waste time picking oats out of h0rzesh1t. 
Pinching your nose won&#039;t make it easier to eat h0rzesh1t. 
Don&#039;t build an argument or foundation on h0rzesh1t. 
Don&#039;t try to shine h0rzesh1t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things my mother and father tried to teach me, and I believe they apply to everything about this administration and legislation.  </p>
<p>No matter how hungry or desperate you are: <br />
Don&#8217;t waste time picking oats out of h0rzesh1t. <br />
Pinching your nose won&#8217;t make it easier to eat h0rzesh1t. <br />
Don&#8217;t build an argument or foundation on h0rzesh1t. <br />
Don&#8217;t try to shine h0rzesh1t.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1284971</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thank you, beachnan. The problems with the current system aren&#039;t addressed in any way, form, or fashion by any of these bills. Moreover, only those willing to suspend disbelief or are terminally gullible believe these cornucopias of manure will do anything at all to mitigate the numerous problems inherent in our current system, which has been cobbled together over the years through the VERY SAME process that has given us these NEW bills.

Yeah, that&#039;s what I want--another POS system to replace the POS system that they built in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thank you, beachnan. The problems with the current system aren&#8217;t addressed in any way, form, or fashion by any of these bills. Moreover, only those willing to suspend disbelief or are terminally gullible believe these cornucopias of manure will do anything at all to mitigate the numerous problems inherent in our current system, which has been cobbled together over the years through the VERY SAME process that has given us these NEW bills.</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what I want&#8211;another POS system to replace the POS system that they built in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: beachnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>beachnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Ferd.  Why can&#039;t they start with the current system, and make effective changes?  I don&#039;t have health insurance.  I am now 55 and worried that something catastrophic could wipe me out.   I have been checking out many of the plans out there and they offer so little for $$$$$.  The system needs to be changed, but not with the current monster they are creating.  My Brother recently was getting chemo, and had a reaction.  They called the paramedics to take him to a hospital approximately 3 miles away.  The bill was over $3,000.  Every chemo treatment is $10,000.  My Mother, who is also getting chemo, wasn&#039;t feeling well and instead of calling her children, she called 911.  That trip to the hospital, approximately 2 miles away, was over $1,000. I recently had to go to a Doc in the Box.  I hadn&#039;t been to one in about 5 years, so I was shocked when the clerk said the bill is $180.  I thought that included a lab test, but I later got a bill for an additional $60.  Fix the current screwed up system, and drop this dud of a bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ferd.  Why can&#8217;t they start with the current system, and make effective changes?  I don&#8217;t have health insurance.  I am now 55 and worried that something catastrophic could wipe me out.   I have been checking out many of the plans out there and they offer so little for $$$$$.  The system needs to be changed, but not with the current monster they are creating.  My Brother recently was getting chemo, and had a reaction.  They called the paramedics to take him to a hospital approximately 3 miles away.  The bill was over $3,000.  Every chemo treatment is $10,000.  My Mother, who is also getting chemo, wasn&#8217;t feeling well and instead of calling her children, she called 911.  That trip to the hospital, approximately 2 miles away, was over $1,000. I recently had to go to a Doc in the Box.  I hadn&#8217;t been to one in about 5 years, so I was shocked when the clerk said the bill is $180.  I thought that included a lab test, but I later got a bill for an additional $60.  Fix the current screwed up system, and drop this dud of a bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1284965</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you loud and clear and concur. When will the electorate stop being mesmerized by the shiny baubles that constitute most of those running for office and actually look into their empty shells, seing them for what they are--flim-flammers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you loud and clear and concur. When will the electorate stop being mesmerized by the shiny baubles that constitute most of those running for office and actually look into their empty shells, seing them for what they are&#8211;flim-flammers?</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/37918/harrys-imaginary-friends-his-dangerously-flawed-health-care-plan/#comment-1284963</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;Healthcare&quot; bill is wrong on so many levels but the worst part is that it will increase administrative costs on the regulator and regulated sides of the equation, which is one of the real problems with the current system. You don&#039;t repair a broken system by adding more cogs to the part that caused it to break in the first place. Has ANYONE actually performed a process-flow diagram on the mess that is our healthcare system? Do the boneheads that put together this fustercluck have any concept of inputs and outputs to a system? Was there even an attempt made at requirements management? Do these m o r o n s think in anything other than soundbites? I tried parsing the stupid bill into one of my databases and came up with a number of requirements on both sides that are more numerous than those necessary to design, build, and operate a nuclear powerplant for 30 years. It is staggering--we&#039;re speaking in terms of decades of thousands on an atomized level. 

But the Obamabots won&#039;t discuss this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;Healthcare&#8221; bill is wrong on so many levels but the worst part is that it will increase administrative costs on the regulator and regulated sides of the equation, which is one of the real problems with the current system. You don&#8217;t repair a broken system by adding more cogs to the part that caused it to break in the first place. Has ANYONE actually performed a process-flow diagram on the mess that is our healthcare system? Do the boneheads that put together this fustercluck have any concept of inputs and outputs to a system? Was there even an attempt made at requirements management? Do these m o r o n s think in anything other than soundbites? I tried parsing the stupid bill into one of my databases and came up with a number of requirements on both sides that are more numerous than those necessary to design, build, and operate a nuclear powerplant for 30 years. It is staggering&#8211;we&#8217;re speaking in terms of decades of thousands on an atomized level. </p>
<p>But the Obamabots won&#8217;t discuss this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things are looking bleak, hey Bronwyn?
The CBO may blow this monstrosity out of the water.
Otherwise, we have a snow ball&#039;s chance in Hades of stopping it!
In watching the debate, it is evident that more than ideological differences are in play.
The democrats are lying through their teeth. Need proof?
Talk to a Medicare patient who cannot get a primary care physician now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are looking bleak, hey Bronwyn?<br />
The CBO may blow this monstrosity out of the water.<br />
Otherwise, we have a snow ball&#8217;s chance in Hades of stopping it!<br />
In watching the debate, it is evident that more than ideological differences are in play.<br />
The democrats are lying through their teeth. Need proof?<br />
Talk to a Medicare patient who cannot get a primary care physician now!</p>
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