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Al Qaeda, Jihadists and Afghanistan

BUMPED UP

Lots going on and lots to report. Let’s start with the news that fewer than 100 Al Qaeda operatives remain in the Pakistan/Afghanistan area. ABC News reports tonight:

As he justified sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan at a cost of $30 billion a year, President Barack Obama’s description Tuesday of the al Qaeda “cancer” in that country left out one key fact: U.S. intelligence officials have concluded there are only about 100 al Qaeda fighters in the entire country.

A senior U.S. intelligence official told ABCNews.com the approximate estimate of 100 al Qaeda members left in Afghanistan reflects the conclusion of American intelligence agencies and the Defense Department. The relatively small number was part of the intelligence passed on to the White House as President Obama conducted his deliberations.

President Obama made only a vague reference to the size of the al Qaeda presence in his speech at West Point, when he said, “al Qaeda has not reemerged in Afghanistan in the same number as before 9/11, but they retain their safe havens along the border.”

This is true. In fact, the number is less than 100.

At least that is what a person with access to the information told me today. We should not be surprised by these numbers. Prior to 9-11 the total strength of Al Qaeda was put at around 600 men. In the aftermath of 9-11 we killed at least 300 (maybe more). And over the course of the last year we have stepped up operations to capture and kill remaining Al Qaeda operatives.

News on the wire tonight indicates another CIA drone strike against a senior Al Qaeda operative (no word yet on the identity of the target).

This news comes on the heels of word that Pakistani authorities have arrested five American muslims who reportedly traveled to Pakistan intent on getting their jihad on. According to the Times of London:

An FBI team in Pakistan is investigating five American Muslim students who were arrested there yesterday on suspicion of plotting terrorist attacks. They disappeared from their homes in the US last month.

Pakistani police said they arrested the five men, aged from 18 to their early 20s, in a raid on the house of a member of the banned militant group, Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM), in the town of Sargodha in the eastern province of Punjab.

The FBI has yet to confirm their nationalities or identities, but Pakistani officials said the men were all US citizens, including three of Pakistani, one of Egyptian and one of Yemeni descent and had been staying at the house since November 30.

“We watched them for one and a half days and then arrested them,” Usman Anwar, police chief of Sargodha, told reporters.

“We seized laptops and other things from their possession. Later we came to know that they have come here with the intention of ‘jihad’.”

He also said they were “directly connected” to al-Qaeda, and planned to launch attacks inside and outside Sargodha.

Take the “Al Qaeda” charge with a big grain of salt. Aspiring wannabees is not the same as plugged in, trained terrorists. In fact the story being put out to the public probably is not true. Instead it appears that the FBI was on to these guys before they “disappeared” and that the US Government was cooperating with the Government of Pakistan in monitoring their contacts and activities.

It is very disturbing that these guys, who are educated and have benefitted from living in this country, now decided they want to align themselves with the likes of Bin Laden’s gang of thugs. I hope these five enjoy the comforts of Pakistan’s jails. We ought to leave them there to rot in my view.

Unfortunately these are not the only Islamic crazies in our midst. While a minority there are still enough of these teenage, twenty-something aspiring jihadists to cause alarm and raise suspicions. It is incumbent on the muslim community to rein in these assholes and rat them out of they refuse to reject the extremist nonsense.

The next year in Afghanistan will be critical. If we decide to fight the Afghan people we will lose. We do not have the size of force or strength of economy required to sustain such an effort. However, if we use the additional troops to provide support to secure the cities, train Afghan police and soldiers, and cut deals with the various warlords we are likely to come out of this in good shape. I’m betting on General Stanley McChrystal to pull off something that looks like victory.

Meanwhile the attrition of Al Qaeda continues. That is a good way to end the year and start a new one.

Here are a couple of videos that illustrate the air advantage we have in going after these guys:

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  • Smart-Jazz-Just Me

    “I’m betting on General Stanley McChrystal to pull off something that looks like victory.”

    I got this bet covered. Call the ball Johnson?

    It may look like victory but the tail will be not be wagging. I just pray that the body bags will not be all in vain.

    Time will tell…

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  • Patrick Henry

    Good Call Larry…
    Knowing Stan McChrystal..I’ll bet he pulls it off too..The U.S Army..Marine Corps..Spec Ops and Military are “Doing thier Job..”

    Always have..Always Will..

    Reminder..”Count the number of enemy dead”

    Thier Tail won’t be Waggin because we are NOW Cutting off the Head..

    NEVER Underestimate Our troops..
    ..But ALWAYS Appreciate..what they do..

  • NomNomNom

    “For a number of years, maybe for another 15 to 20 years, Afghanistan will not be able to sustain a force of that nature and capability with its own resources,” Karzai said.

    One would need to be either morally bankrupt or colossally stupid to be in favor of this war (if not both). It plainly has absolutely nothing to do with Al Qaeda or the Taleban or Jundullah or whatever the flavor of the month has now become.

  • Patrick Henry

    It Has Everything to do with Drugs FINANCING Quaeda Operations..and eleminating thier Influence and Interference with “Business as usual’ in the region..

    All The Tribes and various Leaders will be glad when they are gone..Thats why we get the level of co`operation we get there now..Quaeda and the Taliban are History..

    The BIGGER Story is IRAN..

  • NomNomNom

    Ahmed Wali Karzai, de facto pres. Hamid Karzai’s brother, is one of the biggest opium producers in Afghanistan. He has also been on the CIA’s payroll for 8 years. We have absolutely no intention of ending the drug trade in Afghanistan.

  • Patrick Henry

    Nope We Don’t..Thats what I just said..Nom..

  • Patrick Henry

    I’m Talking about Quaeda and Taliban INTERFERENCE..with business as usual
    and taking heavy cuts from unprotected outer Tribes to
    Finance JiHad Operations..

    Nom…why don’t you focus on whats behind the financial meltdown on Wall Street..if you are so Interested in Commerce..

    Notice all the “Sachs” names on Obamas Guest List for his State dinner..??

  • NomNomNom

    I am no supporter of BHO.
    I have said since long before this past freaking s/election that BHO and Clinton and McCain would all 3 be willing puppets to oligarchic rule, and that there were no longer 2 parties, but one in thrall to transnationals, the so-called military industrial congressional complex, the financial cartels, etc.
    Since the selection, we have seen McCain praising Qaddafi; Clinton hallucinating a giant Iranian embassy in Nicaragua, congress f#cking us all.
    If you are aware that the war is for money, and that pursuing it is part of the method to bankrupt middle america and increase these groups’ control of us, how then can you support it?

  • Patrick Henry

    Nom…My HEART Go’s where my Troops go..and with thier familys..

    Remember that Most of the Folk in Power in Nations and states around the world are playing the same Power game you mentioned..Some for local or regional Domination..Some for global Domination..

    The United States is not Alone in the Global Fight..we Fought Germany..we Fought Japan.. and we carried on a global ..overt…covert war with the Soviet Union for decades..

    I understand that Information developed from High level KGB Sopurces that the Soviets (Russians) had a Master Plan in place to bankrupt the United States a long time ago..

    Funny how the MSM has so conveniently dropped them off the Radar screen so fast..

    Are you sure NOM, that you really understand who is trying to Control us..??

    Or how the Game is Played..??

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  • Hot Librarian

    100 Alquaeda are holding off 100,000 plus highly trained & supported troops?

    That figure of 100 may be true but they are also keeping in business hundreds of Professional Alquaeda experts.

    Maybe we could assign each Alquaeda with their own expert..A PR manager would not go astray.

    TV appearances …Survivor , Newshour , Extreme Sports , Oprah ,

    but never The Biggest Loser.

  • Docelder

    BHO and Clinton and McCain would all 3 be willing puppets to oligarchic rule

    Nom, remember that tuxedo dinner party where the Presidential candidates roasted each other? They were all three there demonstrating a level of subservience for the wealthy people at the tables. They were auditioning to be President of those people’s corporate America… not to represent us in any way. I thought at the time that McCain could save us from what Obama has brought us. Looking back on it now, I don’t think it matters anymore who is selected. Whoever it is won’t be working for us anyway. I think this war is also for establishing a permanent base camp in the region. 100,000 troops to kill a hundred isn’t even a good cover. Whatever this is about, it’s no longer about the buildings in New York, if it ever was.

  • Karen

    Under which administration were 500 of these Al Qaeda killed? Also, what about the Taliban? I thought the Taliban was also making a come-back to take over Afghanistan.

  • Hot Librarian

    The Taliban never went away. One night they all miraculously slipped out of Kabul & went home to wait the exit of yet another force. Mullah Omar famously putt putt putted off on his little motorbike.

    But the unnoticed aspect is that it is THe Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. Whatever their differences with the tribal warlords – they are firstly bound to the ideals of an islamic homeland.

    We may well win but we will all have to accept…

    112: To Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens & whatever is in the earth.And Allah is sufifcient as defender.

  • Sassy

    That number seems quite small, but my primary concern is that we are still taking casualties.
    A soundbite from Admiral Mullen repeated that if we aren’t winning then we are losing.
    It seems to take that 2by4 upside the head of the jackasses time to sink in!
    I’m pulling for Gen. McChrystal for there are few others I trust anymore!

  • Tricia

    I have a question. The videos look like a game. Where are the controllers located? How can they tell for sure that this isn’t a group looking for wood or whatever?

  • NomNomNom

    I am not saying other countries do not have a hand in the problem and are not playing “the game”: that’s what I mean by transnationals: I do not believe that the governments of other countries are less corrupt than ours, mostly because I believe that it is the same government: these rulers are transnational, they are peers to each other, business partners to each other, relatives to each other. A couple of years ago there was an article describing that just 36 people in Russia had over 1/4 of all the wealth. That is certainly no better/different than here!
    But the goal still needs to be stopping them on all fronts.
    I do care about American soldiers; I don’t care to see their lives sacrificed away as pawns in this “game”: that’s one of the reasons I don’t support the war.
    And yes, I am very very very sure.

  • lark

    I hear you loud and clear.

    Nature is the enemy.

    Nature is the enemy.

    Government is there now to control nature.

  • hokma

    “It is very disturbing that these guys, who are educated and have benefitted from living in this country, now decided they want to align themselves with the likes of Bin Laden’s gang of thugs.”

    I recall that many of the 1960′s radicals in the Weather Underground came from middle class and wealthy families. What drives people like this to give up good futures to engage in activities that ruin your life is beyond me.

    Regarding the hundred or less Al Qaeda in Afghanistan I assume the military understands that their mission is to prevent Afghanistan from being a haven for radical Islam and prevent Taliban from taking over either Afghanistan or Pakistan.

    I wonder if Pakistan did not have nuclear weapons would we be as engaged as we are there?

  • Retired

    Eric Holder commented as follows on the above videos: “I am appalled. Did anyone read these men their rights and afford them the opportunity to let themselves be taken into custody voluntarily before opening fire? I saw no laws being violated, except perhaps the possession of firearms. I promise a full investigation into these sensless murders, with the perpetrators being punished to the full extent of the sense of international law and opinion.”

  • Retired

    Larry wrote: “It is incumbent on the muslim community to rein in these assholes and rat them out of they refuse to reject the extremist nonsense.”
    Based on a conversation that I had recently with an American-born Muslim, I have a feeling that the American Muslim community may be doing a bit more than just ratting them out. At least in the case of foreign jihadis who try to infiltrate American mosques, I think that some American Muslims might actually be taking them out quietly.
    A quote from a very serious conversation: “These misguided pseudo-Muslims have tried to infiltrate our mosques and use us to support their operations several times. We try to convert them to the true Islam, but if we cannot, you will never hear from them again. It is our problem and we will deal with it.”
    I have no evidence that these things actually happen, of course, but considering the context of the conversation and the man that I was having it with, I have little doubt that this may actually be going on in some cases.

  • NomNomNom

    One surely expects to see Iran as the next chapter.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Yep, they’re out there choppin’ down trees with AK-47′s and using truck mounted machine guns to bust the wood into kindling.

  • NomNomNom

    yes, it is No Country Without One of Our Military Bases Left Behind.
    Today Clinton is issuing threats to any South American nation that decides to do business with Iran, with a special shout out to Venezuela and Bolivia; & the US is still attempting to levy increased sanctions against Iran (blockade). Just what the world needs: a new Gaza.
    [“We also are well aware of Iran’s interests in promoting itself with a number of other countries – Venezuela and Bolivia, as you mentioned – and we can only say that that is a really bad idea for the countries involved. And we hope that there will be a recognition that this is the major supporter, promoter, and exporter of terrorism in the world today. The Revolutionary Guard of Iran, which is increasing its control over the country because of the elections, which were a stark example of the abuse of human rights in action, is deeply involved in the economy as well as the security issues of Iran. And I think that if people want to flirt with Iran, they should take a look at what the consequences might well be for them, and we hope that they will think twice, and we’re going to support them if they do. (Applause.)” http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/12/133453.htm

    Evo Morales just won re-election in Bolivia by a landslide (63% to 27% nearest competitor: this is well up from 2005 when he won with 54%); in addition to its oil & gas, Bolivia is the world’s largest supplier of lithium, and has entered into a recent agreement with Iran on development. The US has of course been engaged in campaign (NED/USAID) to privatize & control the resources of Bolivia since god knows when (at least back into the 1930′s when the oil companies instigated the Chaco War; prior to the US, the British and the War of the Pacific), much as we did Honduras. (One such endeavor in 2000 was to privatize the water supply of Cochabamba, the 3rd largest city in Bolivia, leaving it in the hands of a US owned consortium. Ultimately the US corporations lost. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Cochabamba_protests#Resolution). One expects to wake up one morning and find that Morales has been shot dead and replaced by our tool Reyes.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10187

  • Patrick Henry

    Yes Retired…The Same Eric AHolder All Star team Player who..as Deputy Attorney General ..in 1999…
    recommended CLEMENCY for 16 Convicted Terrorist
    Members of the Puerto Rican Terrorist Organization
    BORICUA POPULAR ARMY..

    This was for thier armed robbery of a Wells Fargo Armored car..They claim to be fighting for the Independence of Puerto Rico..

    The same orgaization that opened fire on U.S.Servicemen..killing them in Puerto Rico..

    The same Organization that Blew up U.S. Military Aircraft there, causing $48 Million Dollars damage..

    They were granted CLEMENCY on Holders recommendation..against much FBI and other opposition..

    It was granted with, Unusally… NO Predconditions ..to disclose any Information..

    I guess Holder supports Any “LIBERATION” Theology.. and He must make the likes of Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakahn very Proud..

    Those who Oppose the United States are apparently just Freedom Fighters seeking Liberation..even in Holders mind..

  • Peggy Sue

    I read that Karzai quote earlier, Nom, which only ties into statements made by a number of our own people. Another 15-20 years? On our dime? And how many dead for what result?

    This will not end well.

  • Hot Librarian

    Retired .In that case you should immediately report the conversation to the Homeland security immediately.

    Your friends are themselves dangerous radical Muslims .

    Thats like The like the Televangelicals taking out the Amish.”you will never hear from them again “!

  • lark

    You all sound to me too much like Cubans in the 70′s supporting Castro’s regime. Soon enough all of this will be explained to you by them and how all of this is of course, justified.

  • Retired

    It was one conversation, and it was not with a “friend.” The context of the conversation was entirely serious, however, and given the background of the person, who was a former combat infantryman in the U.S. Army who has done his share of killing while in uniform, it was perfectly credible.
    As for him being a “dangerous, radical Musim,” currently, he and his fellow religionists are of no danger to me or anyone else who just leaves them alone to live in peace. I believe them to be of considerable potential danger, however, to hardcore foreign takfiri salafists who attempt to try to threaten them into becoming terrorist supporter elemens.
    As for reporting him to DHS, actually, that is the wrong federal government agency to report this type of thing to. The correct federal government agency is aware, however.

  • graywolf

    I doubt it.
    Are these the same “intelligence” agencies who said that Iran wasn’t building a nuclear weapon?
    Or Iraq has WMD?

  • graywolf

    Or the FBI that said that jihadi at Ft. Hood wasn’t a terrorist?
    The same FBI that conducts “interrogations” with milk and cookies?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Your friends are themselves dangerous radical Muslims.

    TGIF.

    A doctor has three Muslim “hardcore foreign takfiri salafists” patients in his office being checked for alzheimer’s.
    He asks the first patient “How much is 3*3?”
    The first patient says, “70″.
    (Doctor shakes his head and leaves to check his 2nd patient)
    Doctor comes in and asks the second patient, “How much is 3*3?”
    The second patient says, “Easy, doc, that equals “The Evil Satan”…
    (Doctor shakes his head and leaves to check his 3rd patient)
    Doctor comes in and asks the third hardcore foreign takfiri salafist patient, “How much is 3*3?”
    Third guy prays to Allah for a moment and says. “9 doc, why?”
    Doctor asks the third patient, “Just how did you get the answer?
    “Why doc, I just divided 70 by the Evil Satan and got 9.”

  • Hot Librarian

    Oh dear ,now he was a former serviceman who did this sort of thing in uniform.

    would that be a war crime?

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  • Smart-Jazz-Just Me

    Once again if this was a conventional war I would not underestimate anything, especially our troops. But this is not a conventional war and as I have said before we do not have success with COIN operations using conventional troops.

    History has proven this repeatedly.

    Enemy body counts is not and should not be the measurement of success. Especially in COIN where enemy strengths are an unknown.

    Its going to be a very costly endeavor for us at this time.

  • Retired

    Good one! I’m definitely using that one this weekend.

  • Retired

    No more so than misfiling books in a library is a crime against humanity. But one should face the reality that someone who has purposefully killed in the past understands what is involved in such acts, so when they earnestly say that they intend to do so again if necessary, there is a certain level of credibility. When someone who has not done so before makes the same assertion, well, in my experience, when it comes to killing another human being, no one really knows how, or even if, one will act until the time comes.

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