We Want to Hear Your Caucus Stories [Updated]

You probably saw this already, but here is my take.

Main Stream Media Ignoring PUMAS

There is an 800 lb. donkey in the living room and it is kicking over the furniture. MSM can’t ignore it forever.

http://patriotroom.com/?p=623

I have blogged this numerous times: My neighbor who was caucusing for BO. Showed up without any ID, and was allowed to caucus. She was also allowed to caucus twice because she did not know what table hers (precinct). This is what she told me and what I witnessed. I also saw lots of people doing the same no id’s and were voting at different tables (the tables were precincts for Collin County in Plano, and Allen, Tx.)

THE WERE SO DISORGANIZED AND COMMITTED SO MANY FRAUD CAUCUS VOTES….

Barack Obama’s brother pushes Chinese imports on US
http://countusout.wordpress.com/

20,000 is how many were at Obama’s speech in Germany, not 200,000. You can tell just by looking at the pictures. Anyone who’s been to an outdoor concert knows what 50,000 to 200,000 people look like and this is nowhere close. Local papers report 20K, but US media and AP reports 200K. Obama counts people like he counts votes.

There were some technical problems, but it turned out to be one of the best shows of nqr!

I was a delegate at the Seattle caucus. Ten minutes into the proceedings someone yelled Obama. the crowd went wild everyone yelling Obama and stomping their feet. Once it died down I yelled Hilary three times. No one responded with Hilary. Then I was literally booed very loudly right out of the caucaus. This is the most undemocratic way to pick a president. A handful of people decide. Our primary votes in Washington didn’t even count. We should elect a presidential candidate the same way we pick a president. every vote should count and everyone should vote on the same day. This convoluted way that the Democrats have caucuses in some places and it’s different in different states is like something from the 1800′s. Democrats need to be democratic.

I would add that when we went to the original caucus I noticed several buses parked outside that were not from the area. Inside were people I never had seen from my neighborhood. The only people that I recognized from my neighborhood were also for Hillary.
Intimidation tactics were used and many elderly were made to feel uncomfortable.

The Wa Primary which meant zero had Obama and Clinton close. The caucus was a blow out for Obama do to the brownshirt tactics used.

I keep loosing the show I even sat at the PC today just to make sure I heard it. So I’m going to go do dishes and listen to it again later. I had heard a female on one of the news stations talking about people actually standing outside of a caucus and telling Hillary supporters it had been moved. I was hoping to hear that addressed, to see if it was true or not. If it was could someone let me know. From what I did hear I’m kind of shocked as to what was allowed.

Demand the FEC obtain hard-copy proof of BO’s eligibility to be POTUS! Write to them….

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml#filing

I. Filing a Complaint

Any person may file a complaint if he or she believes a violation of the Federal Election Campaign Laws or Commission regulations has occurred or is about to occur. The complaint must be made in writing and sent to the Office of General Counsel, Federal Election Commission, 999 E Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20463. The original must be submitted along with three copies, if possible. Facsimile or e-mail transmissions are not acceptable. A complaint must comply with certain requirements. It must:

* Provide the full name and address of the person filing the complaint (called the complainant); and
* Be signed, sworn to and notarized. This means that the notary public’s certificate must say “…signed and sworn to before me…,” or words that connote the complaint was affirmed by the complainant, (such as “under penalty of perjury”).

Furthermore, in order for a complaint to be considered complete and proper, it should:

* Clearly recite the facts that show specific violations under the Commission’s jurisdiction (citations to the law and regulations are not necessary);
* Clearly identify each person, committee or group that is alleged to have committed a violation (called the respondent);
* Include any documentation supporting the allegations, if available; and
* Differentiate between statements based on the complainant’s (the person who files the complaint) personal knowledge and those based on information and belief. Statements not based on personal knowledge should identify the source of the information.

For self-reported complaints (called “sua sponte” submissions), the submission should include an admission of the violation(s), a complete recitation of the facts along with all relevant documentation that explains how the violation was discovered, the internal actions that were taken in response to the violation and what other agencies, if any, are investigating the violation (or facts surrounding the violation)

We all know what happened. Caucuses are the most insane thing I’ve ever seen. Cripes, get some paper ballots or friggin’ voting machines and this kind of stupid crap wouldn’t happen. Talk about being a laughing stock….

Susan, Great interview and wonderful questions and answers! Thank you!

We don’t caucus in CA., but when I was telephoning for Hillary during the week before the Texas vote, people were just totally mixed up. We had a script for explaining who, what, why, etc., but it was just too MUCH for some people to even imagine staying or going back…or the 2/3 and 1/3 vote explanation.

It’s just not at all fair for voters to have to have it so hard!

Clinton backers blast Dean in Charlotte

About two dozen Hillary Clinton supporters, some carrying signs saying “Dump Dean,” shouted down Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean during an appearance Friday in Charlotte.

The demonstrators, mostly women, were protesting a rumored decision not to put Clinton’s name in nomination at next month’s Democratic convention in Denver. At one point, Dean was drowned out by shouts of “I own my vote!”

“There will be a roll call vote at the convention if Hillary Clinton wants one,” he continued. “We all respect each other and we certainly respect Sen. Clinton. This is a unified party. It is not easy to be on the losing side, and I know … because four years ago, I was on the losing side.”

http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_news/story/729443.html

FYI and repost from the other thread – then a pleasant bon nuit!

I HAVE GOOD NEWS (for some)

The radio show tonight had a special guest. A super from CALIF.

THEY are paying ATTENTION to us!!!

THEY are passing around a petition

THEY only need 300 signatures

he didn’t go any further but hinted that it is being DONE as we sit here!

HILLARY will get her name on the ballot with the 300 signatures

THEY are (perhaps) not as DENSE as we have imagined!!

I heard it myself. Of course this guy could be filled with AIR too but he sounded really straight up.

sharing

THERE IS HOPE

AND IT’s NOT OBAMA

Sorry if this is a re-post…I have been busy today. I missed the shows, I will listen later or tomorrow.

Dems oust delegate over McCain support
http://www.beloitdailynews.com/articles/2008/07/26/news/wisconsin_news/wis01.txt

MADISON, Wis. (AP) – Wisconsin Democrats on Friday ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain in November.

Embarrassed by a defection in their ranks, the Wisconsin Democratic Party’s administrative committee voted 23-0 to strip Debra Bartoshevich of her status as a delegate to the Denver convention next month.

Bartoshevich was elected by party activists as a pledged delegate for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton from the 1st Congressional District in southeastern Wisconsin. But after Clinton dropped out of the race, Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel she would support McCain over Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

The June comments by the 41-year-old nurse and mother of two from Waterford were seized on by the McCain campaign as evidence of his appeal to former Clinton backers. Within hours, the Wisconsin Democratic Party passed a resolution at its state convention supporting a challenge of her position with the national committee.

The party’s rules and bylaws committee said the state party could decide the matter, clearing the way for Friday’s vote. Committee members agreed Bartoshevich had lost her privilege to be one of the party’s 92 delegates with her comments and affiliation with “Citizens for McCain,” a branch of his campaign designed to recruit independents and Democrats.

During a teleconference before the vote, Bartoshevich asked the committee to allow her to attend the convention as a delegate for Clinton. She noted that she donated her time and money to Clinton and still believes the former first lady is the best candidate.

She said she made the comments backing McCain during an emotional time shortly after Clinton dropped out of the race and as a first-time delegate unfamiliar with party rules. She said she had not decided who to ultimately support and was still open to backing Obama if he won her over. “I’d like to go to the convention and listen,” she said.

She said her sister was a McCain supporter who signed her up for “Citizens for McCain.” The McCain campaign reached out to her after Clinton dropped out, she added.

“You reached right back and hugged them. I have a problem with that,” committee member Dottie LeClaire responded.

The committee accepted a challenge that stated Bartoshevich violated rules requiring delegates to support the party’s nominee and be faithful to the party. Bartoshevich will be replaced by Marilyn Nemeth of Racine, who finished second to Bartoshevich in the delegate election earlier this year.

During a stop in suburban Milwaukee on Thursday, McCain deputy campaign manager Mike DuHaime said Bartoshevich symbolized the many former Clinton supporters now backing McCain. “We would certainly welcome her to the McCain camp,” he said.

University of Wisconsin-Madison political science professor Barry Burden said Bartoshevich’s public support for McCain was a test for the Democratic Party’s organization and rules.

“The party has the right to do this. What is a political party if it has rules but is unable to enforce them?” he said.

Burden said the party was justified in basing the action on her comments to the newspaper even though she now says she may be open to voting for Obama.

“Waiting until November to make up your mind is fine for the average voter but not acceptable to someone who is given this privileged position of being a delegate,” he said.

Bartoshevich did not help her case by repeatedly referring to the “Democrat Party” during Friday’s conference call. That angered commitee members, who view that as a slur used by Republicans. One chastised her for using “Rush Limbaugh’s talking points.” Bartoshevich said she didn’t understand and kept using the offending term.

I didn’t know saying “Democrat Party” was wrong

like we all know what Rush says and does…the SOB’s

“….four years ago, I was on the losing side.”

Actually you’re still on the losing side, Howard Dean. You’re Dean-screaming the whole party right into oblivion.

Obama cancelled visit with real messiah as no photo op allowed.
http://liberalrapture.com/

Each state has its own petitions, he said.

Contact your Supers and urge them to sign!

It takes 300 signees to get Hillary’s name put into nomination!

I really hope this Doco gets made. I am in a primary state that Clinton won big – but I found the whole caucus mess suspect all along.

LOL, Liberal Rapture is great. They keep me smiling.

I saw a funny cartoon of Obama seeing his own face appear in a piece of toast.

Commercial Break…

He’s still is NOT the Nominee 7/26/08

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Thanks, Susan and Truthteller! You guys were great!

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I had a stinkin’ feeling.

He was ill received at the Western Wall and he looked like he was ready to chuck..way out of his element. He was just a rude (quasi) American with his propaganda posters ~ the essential barak~~~ hung on the barriers. The frickin wall wailed.

I am embarrassed. What a HoBO.

Merci BeauCOUP, nah. He blew it ~sarkozy and Carla were waiting…bad bye, Germany. Take care Vets, fellow Americans. I will be ‘there’ for you.

And because I can’t help it, I think he was probably throwin’ up in his mouth with his beanie and the citizen shouting, “Jerusalem is not for sale”. He looked weak and scared. And like a fish out of water.

He’s not into photos with headress – for nobody.

He still is not even the Nominee.

And I might add, Seattle Moss is among the primary reasons why I love NQ so much.

Obama is Bogus

Thanks for another Handout!

Power to the People!

He has more brothers than Osama Bin Laden.

This isn’t fraud. It’s called incompetence.

Do you know it wasn’t corrected?

I want Hillary to be the nominee but not on this kind of useless crap.

Dawnelle, you’re shining like a Goddess.

and also in some puddle in Great Btitain.

Thank you very much Patti!
Those that frequent NQ are people that have felt the sting of disenfranchisement.
I couldn’t have imagined that my political world would be turned upside down.
That a party that I have carried water for all these years can turn out to be the most disgusting anti-democratic farce I have ever seen.
The Democrat party has turned themselves into the enemies of liberty and freedom.
They don’t believe in one person one vote!
They tell us to go stuff it!

Hillary Clinton supporters were the first to see the real Obama and what his movement stands for.
We are the Alarm Bells for the rest of the country.

Because of us, these Marxists will never win.

Country First!!

Hi Susan,

Is it possible tht we could have a few posts on the fact that he is still NOT the nominee and why?

We only have a month left.

Bill Clinton has been speaking volumes with his silence and I think that is why he’s biding his time.
The Senator of Illinois is just simply still not the nominee. This is good, positive news to some. People are going around thinking he is because they’re being told he is.

Thank you for this venue to learn and discern.

Well Imv…let’s investigate and see if it is just incompetentce…you have no problem with an investigation do you??

Yep my caucus dominated by Obama Thugs — ALL the local/county people were Obamabots.

The is NOTHING democratic about a caucus — the Obama thugs were prepared to dominate and manipulate from the very beginning.

And it turns out that the Axlerod/obama plan was to game the caucuses and rack up delegate numbers through any means possible in the caucus states.

Texas and Washington are proof that the caucus system was gamed — TX & WA had PRIMARY — paper ballots — the old fashioned democracy of one person, one vote — and no thugs to harass anyone.

Compare the caucus “vote” and the primary paper ballot vote in both TX & WA — plus our eye witness accounts of what went on in precinct caucuses should be enough to THROW out the caucus votes!

My caucus was also jam packed with a lot of people I’ve never seen before or since — I saw large vans tucked away behind the gym where the 3 precinct caucus was held. There was no provision to match signatures to registered voters — and no proof that any individuals even lived in the precinct.

I’ll never forgive the WA DEM party for selling out to Obama.

Yes, my husband and I called from CA too and found the same thing..the Texas voters where either unaware or confused about the process, didn’t know they were supposed to go back and caucus.

18 million voters is NOT the losing side.

You are correct — Howie Dean is on the losing side.

Good for NC — A beautiful state!!!

PUMA

The Democrat party has breached their trust with the American people. They had a contract to serve the people. They have shown us that they make the decisions not the voters.
I will never vote Democrat again until they get rid of all the caucuses.They eliminate proportional representation and throw out the super delegates.
Unless you put Hillary at the top of the ticket
You’re toast in my eyes forever!!

Investigate all you want.

OBAMA WON COLLIN COUNTY’S POPULAR VOTE!

Where’s the conspiracy?

I’m a strong Hillary supporter. I’ve posted here at NQ. I don’t have to prove my Clinton cred.

But, this isn’t fraud. It’s incompetence. AND IT DOESN’T HELP HILLARY!

Slightly OT: I have been at another website (it used to be neutral) jousting with a couple of Obama cultists. Are they incapable of holding a rational, civil, non-violent (verbally) conversation, or am I just missing something?

I keep saying he’s not the nominee until he’s NOMINATED. Doesn’t that take place at the roll call ballot?

I’m not even a Democrat, so if I’m misunderstanding some rule, I’ll stand corrected.

Susan,
Wonderful radio show tonight. I listened with shock as I heard the multiple ways the Obama campaign gamed the caucuses. I wish this would make it to the MSM. I have been following the caucus fiasco from the beginning, but to hear those people call in and hear their first hand accounts of the bullying, bussing people in, stealing ballots, intimidation, mocking people etc, made me so sad and angry. Obama cheated and the media has said nothing about it. Shameful. All of it.

Unfortunately, I didn’t go caucus in Texas. Just voted in the primary. I know, I know…don’t hate me…but honestly, I didn’t think it would matter. I think about how unfair it is to my -once again I bring this up- 94 year old grandmother who cannot go caucus. She shouldn’t have to vote twice – especially since she was born before she even had the right to vote.

I did find this article from Houston in March:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/5583761.html

So how does it work? Obama volunteer Sumita Prasad boiled it down like this: “In that precinct room, you want more of us and less of them. You don’t need to know math or formulas.”

bbbbut I thought it was the Obama supporters who are so much more educated and smarter than the Clinton supporters…

Caucus-goers arrive and put their names and presidential preference on the “sign-in sheet.” Ideally, they should show proof of having voted in the Democratic primary, but it is not absolutely necessary, according to the Harris County Democratic Party

everything about the caucus makes me sick. if a person wins the popular vote – which she did by over 120,000 votes in Texas – that should be that.

Ninteen showed up for my caucus. There were two young people I had never met passing out little round stickers for Obama ( i’m not sure of the legality ). Nine for Obama, four for Hillary. We had a vote for county delegate and I was elected for Hillary. There was the pricint chairman’s wife screaming in my ear we had to vote for the lone African American mand as Obama delegate. My name didn’t appear on the roll for county delegates so I wasn’t seated and an alternative was chosen. Two weeks after the county convention my pricint chairman called and invited me to his house for a planning session and he had the blue sign in sheet at his home. I asked him about it and he said the Democratic Headquarters didn’t have a copy machine and he needed to get the names and addresses and a friend there had allowed him to bring the sheet home and when I pointed our news reports a month after the convention all the votes hadn’t been tallied, he brushed me off saying “They have now.” I also asked him if the alternate Hillary delegate had gone to the county convention his wife said she had not and the man said she had so I don’t know if anyone went for Hillary. I didn’t file an offical complaint, but he resigned shortly afterwards and I left the party the Monday after the RBC meeting.

I live in Michigan, you can see the DNC wanted to eliminate States where they knew Hillary would win big. Obama dissed the State Party by REMOVING his name from the ballot yet they still “Gifted” to him 45% of the Delegates. I will be voting a straight REPUBLICAN TICKET this year, the DEMS don’t even deserve to be a Political Party in this Country, maybe they should try someplace that has FIXED ELECTIONS as a normal course of business

I wish!

but thank you just the same :-]

Who do want to talk to?

How do you know? If you are so confident that it is not fraud, then you should have no problem with an investigation.

Whether or not it “helps Hillary” is irrelevant. WHat matters is that if fraud did occur, that it is uncovered. If the investigation reveals this, create a complete overhaul of the Caucus system.

There is no reason to be afraid of investigation unless there is something to hide.

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