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ABC This Week: McCain on Obama’s Failure to Visit Wounded Soldiers in Germany

By SusanUnPC on July 27, 2008 at 11:45 AM in Barack Obama, George Stephanopoulos, Germany, John McCain

“I think people make a judgment by what we do and what we don’t do. He certainly found time to do other things.” — John McCain

George Stephanopoulos interviewed John McCain at length on his Sunday morning program, ABC’s This Week, and asked Sen. McCain about Obama’s decision not to visit the wounded soldiers at Landstuhl:

As Memeorandum.com makes clear, this issue has “legs.” In case you missed it, Larry Johnson wrote an excellent analysis early this morning, “Obama Using the Troops.”

Via the McCain press release:

“I think people make a judgment by what we do and what we don’t do. He certainly found time to do other things.” — John McCain

John McCain
ABC’s “This Week”
July 27, 2008

ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “There’s also been a flap about Senator Obama’s decision in Germany not to visit the troops at Landstuhl. He now says that, based on what he was hearing from the Pentagon, there was no way that wouldn’t be seen as a political trip, which is why he decided not to go. Do you accept that explanation?”

John McCain: “Well, I know this, those troops would have loved to have seen him. And I know of no Pentagon regulation that would have prevented him from going there without the media and the press and all of the associated people. Nothing that I know of would have kept him from visiting those wounded troops. And they are gravely wounded, many of them.”

…

“In Landstuhl, Germany, when I went through, I visited the hospital. But the important thing is that, if I had been told by the Pentagon that I couldn’t visit those troops, and I was there and wanted to be there, I guarantee you, there would have been a seismic event. And so, I believe he had the opportunity to go without the media. And I’ll let the facts speak for themselves.”

…

“There was nothing to prevent him from going, if he went without the press and the media and his campaign people. But we’ll see what happens.”

…

“I think people make a judgment by what we do and what we don’t do. He certainly found time to do other things.”

Kathy

Actions always speak louder than words. Obama is a coward.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

Whether it’s cowardice or smug-self righteous far left libralism I don’t know

no matter how you feel about soldiers who volunteer to fight in this lie called Iraq

wounded is wounded and they are OUR GUYS AND GALS and guess what BARACK????? I bet MOST Of them would agree with you about now if you would show them the RESPECT they deserve.

but no you frigged up (yet again) with your nose so high in the sky

I’m a vet and I questioned the motives of MANY that joined once the truth came out but still they are US SOLDIERS, ETC and if you can’t find a way to honor them you should NOT call yourself an American. EVER AGAIN!

s. hall

Dawnelle — Obama as a Presidential Candidate had no business making Foreign Policy decisions in other countries. Only the President of the US should be able to do that. However, the one thing a candidate can and should do is see Americans abroad, especially our Military and especially those who were wounded in wars which continue to this day. Obama is too busy acting like a President to think about anything except pictures showing him with large adoring crowds–When the Pentagon said — No Reporters Obama said No Visit.

Leisa

I have not read this on the blogs yet and could not resist…

An email from Ireland to all of their brethren in the States…a point to ponder despite your
political affiliation:

‘We, in Ireland, can’t figure out why you people are even bothering to hold an election in the United
States.

On one side, you had a pants wearing female lawyer, married to another lawyer who can’t seem to keep
his pants on, who just lost a long and heated primary against a lawyer, who goes to the wrong church, who
is married to yet another lawyer, who doesn’t even like the country her husband wants to run!

Now…On the other side, you have a nice old war hero whose name starts with the appropriate ‘Mc’
terminology, married to a good looking younger woman who owns a beer distributorship !!

Now what in God’s name are ya lads
thinkin over in the colonies !

author unknown

Pam

I love it!

beebop

I am sure that Wes Clark is proud of his little protege today.

Everyone who supported HRC and jumped on the Oblowme Rose Bowl Turdfloats should be ASHAMED of themselves.

Thank God Bill Clinton hasn’t actually DONE anything for Oblowme yet. I hope that he goes on an extended speaking tour. Tomorrow.

SueB.

Don’t diss Wes Clark. He LOVES the troops! He campaigned enthusiastically for Hillary. I see no enthusiasm when he talks about BO. None.
As a matter of fact,I believe he doesn’t like BO at all. Just my opinion, from observing the scene.
Clara Barton

Where did that come from? Wes Clark has never had Obama as a protege. If he was asked for his expert opinion, I’m sure Wes would have given it freely because he’s country first, not party first.

Wes Clark has advised many of the Democratic candidates.

moi61537

And some of them may have been from Illinois. He probably would not know that since he concentrates on becoming president rather than representing his state. Bush is known to stop by the Walter Reed after hours to talk to patients and visit military hospital. Other presidents have done the same thing and as privately as possible. Mr. O is sometimes compared to Lincoln due to the Illinois connection and the falsely assumed thin resume of Lincoln. Lincoln was a frequent visitor to field hospitals. There is something very odd, narcissistic, about Mr. O. He would have to attend to the patients. Those poor unfortunates who served their country do not offer him enough attention.

Linda

Yeah! We should send men to war for Halliburton?

The veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan rated the senators on how they had voted on veterans benefits Obama got a B+ and McCain got a D. The lowest grade of any Democrat was higher than any Republican. Who by the way “support” the troops!

Pink Panther

Obama wants to send the troops to Afghanistan for Halliburton. Many of his 300 advisors want to send our troops to various parts of Africa, for Halliburton and the oil companies.

Hey, did you know that Obama voted for the 2005 Bush/Cheney energy bill which gave billions to the oil and energy companies?

Obama took in $222,309 from donors at Exxon, Shell, Chevron and others, according to campaign-finance data. Two oil company CEOs have pledged to raise at least $50,000 each as part of Obama’s fundraising team.

http://www.usatoday .com/news/ politics/ election2008/ 2008-04-15- obamainside_ N.htm

Obama has a very special relationship with oil and energy companies.

imustprotest

I love how McCain just smiled at the end of the quote when he said “other things”

Morgan

It was good, I want more like this, ASAP. Election is not that far off and Obama is just beyond belief. Or maybe Supers wake up before it’s too late.
s. hall

imustprotest –Unlike Obama McCain knows who he is and is comfortable in his own skin.
terri

That was brilliant.

I don’t think Obama missed the hospital out of cowardice. I think he chose not to go because he couldn’t get a photo op out of it. He’s all about the spotlight and the framing. May have framed this one wrong.

http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

Wow another off the cuff Q&A with Presumptive President McCain and through out no umm, errr’s or ahh’s to be heard, simply direct answers to questions professionally given.

Difference shown between a man or honor and a pathological liar!

Heather

Amazing, eh? During dinner with a friend’s son (he’s 19 years old in college), he made much of the fact that McCain can’t speak off a teleprompter (as though that somehow disqualifies him from being president) which speaks VOLUMES about how the younger generation thinks. If the person wouldn’t be good in a new movie in the “Bourne” series, or if he might look bad on “American Idol” then he’s not fit to be president.

Meanwhile, the guy they lurve can’t answer a simple question with a simple answer.

JoseyJ

No cameras = No Obama
NObama!
beverly leslie

John mccain is a man of integrity. uuuuhhhhhhhuuuuuuhhhhhobarf is a disgrace.

hillary 08
mccain 08
hillary 12
fred

Rule 1 – Write-in votes will not be counted if the candidate does not file as a write-in candidate.

Rule 2 – Write-in candidates are not allowed in presidential elections.

Rule 3 – A candidate losing the primary cannot file as a write-in candidate in the general election.

Forget Write In Hillary

Ferdberfle

Rule 4: Obamatrons such as yourself cannot vote since you only have mass and occupy space. You are not considered a life form.

LindaA1

Hi Ferdberfle -

I don’t know whether Fred is an Obama supporter or not but I am a passionate Hillary supporter who would vote for a brick before I would vote for Obama.

That said, Fred is absolutely right!

Hillary has been adamant that she will not register as a write-in candidate in any state. Unless she registers, write in votes go directly to the trash bin – OR WORSE – some states like Georgia will count any write in vote (for an unregistered candidate) as a vote for Barack Obama.

The write-in Hillary people are well-meaning and devoted to their candidate, but they are doing her a real dis-service by not facing facts.

The last thing we need are Hillary supporters sticking their heads in the sand and, in doing so, aiding and abetting the crooked DNC and Obama campaign.

Go to the Write-in Hillary sites and see if you find the Obamalytes insulting the Hillary supporters posting there. Nope. They are joyful at the prospect of Hillary write-in votes.

HOLD YOUR NOSE – USE YOUR HEAD – CAST THE ONLY VOTE THAT COUNTS AGAINST OBAMA – VOTE JOHN MCCAIN!

LindaA1

Actually, I meant to say Fred is right about his first point. I have never heard that write-in’s are not allowed in Presidential elections or that a losing Presidential candidate can not be a write-in.

Fred, where did you get that information? If it’s true, I’d really like to know.
s. hall

linda Well Said

HOLD YOUR NOSE – USE YOUR HEAD – CAST THE ONLY VOTE THAT COUNTS AGAINST OBAMA – VOTE JOHN MCCAIN!

The thing is I am really starting to like McCain.

http://! flyarm

Remember this folks..Kerry begged McCain to be his running mate in 2004..

If he was good enough for the democratic presidential race in 2004..he is good enough for me now!!

And at least he served this nation..i can’t see that man doing any harm to this nation..but i sure can see Barky doing such..

Think of who you would want in control of nour national security..a seasoned man..or a newbie no nothing????????

Fly..a 2004 Democratic Kerry Delegate

Seattle Moss

Fly..
I was a Dean supporter up until the scream.
This year after the democrats showed me that they are Stalinist wannabies I have to be for McCain.
I feel safe with a man that values Country before Self.

Seattle Moss

The republicans made it easy for us this year!

Seattle Moss

So you make it real simple for us.

Straight Republican Ticket!!!

http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

You do realize that it has been confirmed that the Pentagon asked Obama not to visit the troops because it would look too political, right?

I love how this site just doesn’t pay attention to news and the facts whenever they inconveniently don’t prove the point you are trying to make.

imustprotest

you do realize that your comment was completely debunked by John McCain in the above interview with ABC.

http://! Buzz Latte

Not to mention the Pentagon itself debunked the lie put out by the Obama camp.
http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

Right, because John McCain is not a politician who is running against Obama, and doesn’t have a vested interest in making Obama look foolish, and so everything he says must be objective fact.

Sorry, I hadn’t seen it that way.

Ferdberfle

Anchovy.

This one is useless as bait, though.

Clinton Fan

Yes…it’s a dessicated one, isn’t it..no juice. For this reason, it doesn’t even stink all that much! It just sits there, bug-eyed and pathetic, taking up space! Not even a suckerfish would be troubled by this one!

Ferdberfle

Dry as dust, you bet.

Zeke

Who put that F**KING thin in my Pizza!

http://! flyarm

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww……….

no pizza for me tonight..that visual got me!!!!!

fly

Hope Floats

The Pentagon said Obama could visit as a member of Congress while he was in the area. He just couldn’t bring his campaign staff or the media. So Obama went to the gym at the Ritz instead. Because if he can’t have his picture taken with the troops then why bother?

educatedwhitewoman

That’s NOT what the Pentagon said. They said that Obama’s campaign misstated what they were told (lied). Obama was welcome to visit, they were ready for him, he just couldn’t bring the media and the cameras, just like EVERY OTHER politician must agree to do. You can’t use a military hospital as a campaign backdrop, even Obama. The voters are not fooled.

http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

Right, and the pentagon isn’t a political arm of the Bush administration, which doesn’t have an interest in seeing McCain get elected, and wouldn’t ever, ever politicize anything like this. Right.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

right!

how dare you suggest the soldiers would politicize that shit

you are HEINOUS and don’t know your ASS from a foxhole in the ground

ESAD

http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

How dare I suggest the soldiers would politicize this? I’m not suggesting the soldiers would politicize it. I’m suggesting the high up, Bush appointees (remember Rumsfeld?) would politicize it.

I’m not talking about the men and women who actually do the fighting. I’m talking about the folks who are political appointees who sit in air conditioned offices and push papers all day.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

if Barry had WANTED to he could have visited the “SOLDIERS” at the base w/out cameras or his “sucky newnew pacifier” called Axelrot!

IF he WANTED to go show his respect and he was truly a LEADER (presumptive) of these kids he would have MADE it happen w/out fawning hordes!

That’s what leadership is!!
KobiOshiMaru and he can’t even DO THAT WELL!!!

but his minions sure keep trying to rewrite all the rules…. just like their GW counterparts!

We’re SICK OF IT!!!
http://Dinocrat Dinocrat

Rumsfelf?? He is long gone, in case you havn’t heard. The new guy, Gates, seems to be respected by repubs and dems alike.
Hope Floats

The Democrats blaming everything on Bush is getting old. Notice how Congress’ approval ratings are lower than the President’s. Voters are sick of it, and you’ll see it at the polls.

Real Dem

The Democrats blaming everything on Bush is getting old.

Thanks for demonstrating beyond doubt the real motivation of the posters on this site. You aren’t ex-Hillary supporters who moved to McCain — you’re just a bunch of republicants in disguise. Of course, being republicants, your disguises suck.

Oh, and heck of a job, Larry. Nice ~~site~~ cesspool you’re running here.

Chelsea Patriot

Rumsfeld is not the Sec. of Defense, you Stupid Piece of Shit!

Ferdberfle

In case you weren’t aware, the Military is forbidden to join in any political fray, Republican or Democrat. I understand your confusion, however, since you have apparently been assimilated.

http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

That’s true, the military isn’t supposed to be politicized, but neither is the justice department. The Bush admin politicizes everything and appoints folks to each department who will also politicize everything.

Hope Floats

Hey, genius. In politics, everything is political. A skilled politician knows how to play the game.

1. The DoD told Obama no press entourage or campaign staff, because it would be in bad taste otherwise. Our soldiers are not props.

2. If Obama wanted to visit the troops, he could have. FAIL.
Dawnelle leóna del puma

NO body hates what the DOUCHE JR administration has done more than I

but NOT even I will resort to acting JUST LIKE THEM to prove a point or turn this in to “it’s OUR TURN”

BS – it’s only OUR TURN if we can nominate a WINNER!!!

BHO is a LOSER OF THE PEOPLE

HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE and if it were repeated today

HE WOULD LOSE BY MORE THAN 300,000 VOTES!

I’d bet a years wages (or lack thereof) on it!

http://! flyarm

jesus Noah..how many excuses do you have up your frigging sleave???????? You are pathetic beyond words..go back under your rock..you fool no one .. you Obama asswipe!

fly
Jillie

amazing..they can’t even admit that bo made a mistake. oops, HE doesn’t make mistakes. i forgot.

Denise

Well there is one voter above (Noah) that has obviously been fooled based on his support in Obama’s visit decision. (Note once again Obama pointed the finger instead of owning up to his mistake)

Lets hope come November this country will not be in the hands of the fooled voters.

1) Obama didn’t visit the wounded troops
2) Obama pointed the finger at the Pentagon (are they now under the bus?).
3) Obama didn’t appologize for his mistake. (sometimes you don’t intentionally hurt someones feelings but once you recognize that you have the right thing to do is to appologize.) Appologizing shows integrity and humility which Obama doesn’t have.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

LOL @ number 2

r they now under the bus?

HAHAHAHA!

getfitnow

Noah, your comment has been debunked by the Dept of Defense via a written memo. Read it and weep!

PUMA Power
Mary

Noah my love, it would only have been too political for the Pentagon if he tried to take his media and campaign
armies with him.
Which of course would be impossible for Bam Bam –
cuz he gets lonely so easily! Who would be there to comfort him when he whines?

http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

What are you even saying? The Pentagon and the Dept of Defense are both political arms of the Bush administration, which wants to see John McCain get elected.

The Bush administration politicizes everything (US Attorney scandal, etc).

Therefore, all I’m saying is that it’s ridiculous to take anything the Bush Dept of Defense or Pentagon says about a Democrat running for President at face value.

They will do everything in their power to make a Democrat look bad.

Ferdberfle

Anchovy

And an Obamatron will do anything to foist that untermensch Oblockhead on an unsuspecting public.
Hope Floats

You can’t say with any certainty what the Bush administration’s agenda is. Your assertion has no basis in fact or evidence. Take off the tinfoil hat.
Joker

You have to be one of the dumbest fucks that has ever bloged here……….

Katmoon

Anchovy

Dawnelle leóna del puma

nah there’s no name for this one

or it’s so bad not even my MAMMA would let me use those words (and you all know how I cuss)

lol

Shtuey

The Pentagon made it quite clear that Pampers could have visited the troops. He just couldn’t do it without the press. No photo op = no Pampers visit.

Anyone holding office, or running for office, who refuses to visit our soldiers, especially when they have been wounded in the service of our country, because they couldn’t get press coverage for it is unfit to serve as the Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces, period.

Hillary or McCain ’08.

Disgusted

Why do the right thing if no one sees you do it? If you can’t get the publicity for doing the right thing, why bother. Obama is the type of person who would stop to call the media before he tried to save people from a burning building. Shameless.

Shtuey

The Pentagon made it quite clear that Pampers could have visited the troops. He just couldn’t do it with the press. No photo op = no Pampers visit.

Anyone holding office, or running for office, who refuses to visit our soldiers, especially when they have been wounded in the service of our country, because they couldn’t get press coverage for it is unfit to serve as the Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces, period.

Hillary or McCain ’08.
Clinton Fan

You do realize that’s NOT TRUE, doncha, troll?

His Major General ASSHOLE shopped that lie to the press–and the press found out the truth, and NOW they’re pissed. Even the “liberal” press.

Ya don’t lie to the press … BLATANTLY…without repercussions.

He could have gone whenever he’d liked. He just couldn’t take LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION and his campaign asswipers with him.

What do you fat little basement dwellers say? EPIC FAIL!
Lucinda

Wrong. They told him he could go but without cameras and media.
Ergo, Obama decided not to go, because he couldn’t be the center of attention and use it for political gain. Face it, Noah, your candidate is self-centered to the core.
Heather

“I love how this site just doesn’t pay attention to news and the facts whenever they inconveniently don’t prove the point you are trying to make.”

– Spoken by someone who clearly knows what he’s talking about. Fella, you’re engaging once again in the favor Obamabot passtime: accusing other people of your own faults.

– They told him NOT TO TAKE HIS CAMERA/MEDIA PEOPLE because THAT would look too political.
Sharon

Correction for the obot: The Pentagon said he COULD visit the troops AS A SENATOR – NOT as a campaign event. In other words (read carefully, you lying scum obazombie!), BAMBI COULD VISIT THE TROOPS AS LONG AS HE DIDN’T BRING REPORTERS AND PHOTOGRAPHERS.

And, of course, The Precious would NEVER do ANYTHING that didn’t benefit him POLITICALLY – so, no visit to the troops. As far as bambi’s concerned, who needs them unless they’re good for a photo op?

The Obama camp LIED about this – lied, saying that the Pentagon would not allow the visit – period. Now you’re LYING about it too, bot.

I hope bambi’s campaign pays you well, bot, but due to all your lies and your threats it could never be enough to save your rotten soul…

http://! flyarm

thank you Sharon..well said!!

fly

http://Dinocrat Dinocrat

You do realize, Noah, that if Obama chose to visit wounded soldiers without the media and his campaign staff, it wouldn’t be considered as campaigning, and therefore permissable? He’s a US senator, if he really wanted to go, he would have found a way.
s. hall

Noah — That is absolutely not true. The Pentagon never told Obama he couldn’t visit the troops. This event had been planned for a month. They told Obama there was to be no media circus and Obama doesn’t travel without his trained seals in the media.
PhxNickD

get your facts straight Noah, the Pentagon asked Obama not to visit the hospitalized troops with the media and his campaign troops. Nothing would have stopped this ass from taking time to visit with our wounded vets on his own without a photo op. That is the kind of thing a real PRESIDENTAL candidate does.
terri

This argument is sooo stupid, because Oblahma’s whole trip was political, no? Give me one other reason why he went on this little world jaunt if it wasn’t a political ploy. Too bad so many Democrats are too stupid to think any better than NeoCons.

Peggy Sue

Visiting wounded troops would be too “real” for Obama. Hard to put a spin on true sacrifice or turn a hospital visit into an “event” without cameras and fawning faux-journalists. Might spoil the God illusion.

McCain has every right, even a responsibility to call Obama on this. There’s stagecraft and then there’s genuine honor. Obami is skilled in the former and devoid of the latter.

Strange how Obama could find time to go to the gym and have reports issued on how many reps he could perform.

Makes me ill. Please wake me when this nightmare is over.

PUMApac.org
Hope

I agree! I am tired of hearing about his cell phone, whether or not he wears jeans, what ice cream his kids like..it’s all BS. This guy is an Anti American, terrorist appeasing, wanna be dictator with no morality. People better wake up soon or this country will be unrecognizable.
http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

I also find it ridiculous that you accuse the Obama campaign of being a cult of personality.

I am an Obama supporter, but I haven’t “drank the Kool-Aid.” I was an Edwards supporter before he dropped out, and then decided on Obama, but not enthusiastically.

I agree with some arguments No Quarter makes about many folks “drinking the kool-aid” and thinking that Obama is the second coming of Jesus. I for one am not one of those people. I disagree with him on many things.

However, I find it ridiculously hypocritical of this site to call Obama’s campaign a cult (when in some respects, it kinda is), while at the same time advocating that we continue to destroy this country by electing a Bush clone just because your candidate of choice didn’t win.

A willingness to destroy America out of spite just because Hillary didn’t win? Now that is a cult.

I agree, put country ahead of party. However, McCain will continue to destroy everything that is great about this country, just as Bush has done for the last 8 years.

But, at least you can say, you tried to help stop the guy who defeated your political hero.

I also might point out that if Hillary had won the nomination, all these right wing blogs that you link to (Black Five, etc) would be writing terrible, sexist things about her, yet you decided to join forces with them just because they don’t like Obama.

educatedwhitewoman

Your chosen one is suffering from NPD. Not a good thing for the potential POTUS.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/what-is-wrong-with-barack-obama/
http://! Buzz Latte

Thanks for your opinion. However, re-read your own doubts about Obama.

This goes far deeper than a few right wing websites and not liking Obama (sob, sniff, sob).

This is about defending democracy and saying no to the dirty politics of Donna Brazile and the DNC.

PUMA!!!
Katmoon

Alligator Tears

Dawnelle leóna del puma

DUDES!!!

Your resident TROLL is practicing all forms of TROLL CATEGORY!!! He would be the multitasking troll.

lmao

or the multi-functioning troll

or JELLO TROLL

Katmoon

Rofl,,ahhhhh thank you for the laugh Dawnelle, hahhaaa, perfect.

imustprotest

or the multiple personality disorder troll.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

better yet! The SYBIL TROLL!

jwrjr

Maybe the multi-disfunctioning troll?

suthrn

noah…we will get back to you, sweetie..
Shtuey

If you are pushing the meme that McCain is a Bush clone then I’m afraid that you have in fact drunk the kool-aid.

Pampers Ovomit voted for FISA after he said he’d filibuster the bill. He supports the EXPANSION of Bush’s Faith Based Initiatives program. He rejected public campaign financing. He voted for the Cheney Energy bill. Obama is Bush, even the Wall Street Journal agrees.

We’re fighting for Hillary to be nominated because she is a Democrat. Obama has pissed on and flushed Democratic values down the crapper. We want a Democrat not a Demagogue. And if we can’t have that then we will have to settle for choosing the candidate that embraces public service over narcissistic self-interest. John McCain.

And we will strengthen Hillary in the Senate by supporting her agenda, and lobbying our Senators and Legislators to do the same.
Lucinda

…while at the same time advocating that we continue to destroy this country by electing a Bush clone…

The way I see it, that would be Barack Obama. And lately, he’s adopting more of Bush’s policies and ideas. I think Obama is cut from the same cloth as Bush, moreso than John McCain.

Truudy

You do know that they are related.

beebop

No. It’s worse than that actually. He’s kin with Cheney. Isn’t that just the BEST?

Shtuey

If you are pushing the meme that McCain is a Bush clone then I’m afraid that you have in fact drunk the kool-aid.

Pampers Ovomit voted for FISA after he said he’d filibuster the bill. He supports the EXPANSION of Bush’s Faith Based Initiatives program. He rejected public campaign financing. He voted for the Cheney Energy bill. Obama is Bush, even the Wall Street Journal agrees.

We’re fighting for Hillary to be nominated because she is a Democrat. Obama has pissed on and flushed Democratic values down the crapper. We want a Democrat not a Demagogue. And if we can’t have that then we will have to settle for choosing the candidate that embraces public service over narcissistic self-interest. John McCain.

And we will strengthen Hillary in the Senate by supporting her agenda, and lobbying our Senators and Legislators to do the same.

You see, party doesn’t mean shit if the party’s nominee is a fraudulent, self-serving liar who only cares about his own rise to power. McCain at least sees himself as a public servant, unlike Ovomit who believes he is hand picked by destiny to be the ruler of our country.
Denise

Who writes the scripts you post Noah? They’re not very intelligent.

http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

Thanks!

Barack Obama himself writes them and then uses ESP to channel them directly into my monkey brain.

Ferdberfle

That wasn’t ESP; it was the voices in your head.
Angry Michelle

That’s a RACIST remark.

imustprotest

No he meant Obama’s TELEPROMPTER was sending them to his brain.

Zeke

Denise,
No doubt ol’ Noah here is a Troll Wannabe IN Training or
TWIT as one of our better posters sent me, but I do think that he’s trying to base his decision on information, not personality.
That being said, Noah,
I believe your priorities are out of order and that you are letting emotions toward Bush taint your thought process.
Remember that ends do NOT justify means. It is a terminally slippery slope which, once started, leads to the destruction of anyone’s moral compass.
Barry has done this so many times that he’s lost whatever perspective he may have ever had.
Do yourself a favor and truly examine what Barry wants to do. Leave the Lame Duck out of your thought process and I believe you’ll see what we do:
A hollow, platitude spewing liar who is only interested in his own engrandisement.

Clinton Fan

NOAH, wake up. Look at Obama’s flipflopping, two faced POLICIES. Check out his world view.

HE’S the “BUSH CLONE.”

We don’t need another unprepared liar with Daddy issues, addiction issues, approval issues and an incomplete education running the country. We don’t need another “Lost Without the Script” nitwit.

Stop looking at it from a PARTY perspective. READ your Constitution. Realize that they’re all the same bullshitters. Some of them, like Clinton and McCain, want to work for the good of the nation, and others, like Bush and Obama, want the crown for their own self-aggrandizement.

Worried about legislative matters? Keep in mind PRESIDENTS DO NOT CRAFT LAW. Vote for a left-leaning, veto-proof legislature, and all will be well for you.

But having an unprepared, hubris-laden, snippy, snobby and STUPID male model for president is NOT change I can believe in. I’d rather take four years of the Sailor, and “move on” to Clinton in 2012.
Heather

I disagree with you about McCain. We HAVE had republican presidents before … in fact a lot more of them than democrats over the past half century, and none of them destroyed the country.

Bush is an aberration because he was young and arrogant, and unfortunately I see a lot more of that in Obama right now than I do in McCain. McCain isn’t going to destroy anything. He loves his country and he’s not stupid. Conservative, yes. But we’ve survived conservatives before. What we cannot survive is arrogant usurpation of our system of government.

imustprotest

Well said Heather!
beebop

Hear hear!!!!!

Sharon

“…just because your candidate of choice didn’t win.”

See, here’s your problem, bot. You’re either woefully ignorant (read all the documentation, all over the web, of the rigged process – the cheating the the lying that INSTALLED bambi WITHOUT the will of the people) because my “candidate of choice” didn’t LOSE – period – or you’re just a plain out obambi liar.

Either way – and I happen to think you’re both – you’re just another dim bulb, lying obot.
Hope Floats

You’re on this site arguing that the Bush administration conspired to make a presidential candidate look bad, because Obama chose not to visit the troops when he was told not to make a campaign event of it. You sound like a cultist to me.
s. hall

Noah — Obama is the Bush clone. Follow the money–Obama gets way more from the fatcats than McCain does. If you don’t want a Bush 3 Presidency don’t vote for the ex-druggie with a Superiority Complex.
KidnPlay

How is not supporting Obama “destroying the country”? The US has almost always been a two-party system and just because one party or the other gets elected does not mean that life as we know it will be annihilated. That is just fear tactics employed by Obama’s Proganda machine.
If anything this primary season has proven that the Democratic party is really no better, and certainly not morally superior than the Republican party. Many of us lifelong dems will no longer blindly accept the party rhetoric and are willing to explore the other websites and newsources not sanctioned by BHO. I would suggest that all voters do the same.
terri

Obama is the new George W. Bush and we don’t have to like him or vote for him. Show us the evidence that McCain is Bush and show us the evidence that Obama won’t continue Bush’s policies. Obama has openly said he will continue the Faith Based Initiative and create the Neighborhood Project and make them cabinet level departments: Secretary of Faith!

Obama has also agreed with Bush’ prosecution of the war in Iraq and voted FOR Dick Cheney’s oil give-away bill. There is nothing to indicate that Obama will be any better than Bush.
http://! flyarm

Noah Noah Noah..you do know that Kerry begged McCain to be his running mate in 2004 don’t you????????

or are you to young and void of history of this democratic party????????..and who is really the Bush Clone………..like Barky is………

FISA..Obama openly ass kissed Bush..and pissed all over the constitution..not bad for a constitutionally trained lawyer eh????

NAFTA..he lied to democratic primary voters..

He says Bush and Cheney did nothing wrong to be impeached for…

He either sits out important votes or votes with the Bush agenda.

He was the vote that stopped a filibuster of Alito to the Supreme court…

oh i could go on and on..but you get the drift..or do you..is your little brain hurting yet?????????

go back to the basement..your mommy’s friends are tired of your childish ignorance.

fly
Indyvoter

Have you read the article about Donna Brazile and Rove published here today on No Quarter?

This is about democracy.

fred

The Pentagon says that Obama was told that he could visit but without aides and media. The aides and media are political. He was welcome to visit as a US Senator. No media , No way….God Damn The Troops

NotBrainwashed

God Damn America!!

Obambi: But that’s not the Jeremiah Wright I knew!

Denise

It’s funny how it was ok for the Obama campaign to question McCain’s millitary record but they’re calling foul play on this ad.
NotBrainwashed

Keep it up McCain. Hopefully after the convention, the REAL attacks against Obambi will begin! And I never thought I’d be praising the Republican smears, but here I am.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

here I am, not brainwashed

yep

getting tired of popcorn, time for new snacks. (snicker)

PKJayne

I just know it will be entertaining to watch

Heather

Me too, in every way. It’s a strange brew this year.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

eww maybe we can make it a skewwy witches brew?

Cauldron Toil
Boil and bubble
eye of Obama
instant trouble

heh

Heather

Me likes it, I does!

s. hall

notbrainwashed — I hear ya. However, in this case the Republican running for President loves this country and is proud to be an American. Obama calls himself a citizen of the world. Not a great remark when you are running to be President of the US.

When McCain’s 4 years are up this country will still be a Democracy — with Obama not so sure.

politicsIsdirty

“I think people make a judgment by what we do and what we don’t do. He certainly found time to do other things.” — John McCain

I am a die hard Democrat but we can learn something from the word of wisdom from an experienced Republican (sad isn’t it?).

Sen Obama DID NOT bat an eyelash and exposed his children to the unpatriotic sermons of Rev Wright.
…. BAD JUDGMENT

He attended the sermon for years and was never disturbed by it….BAD JUDGMENT

Until the media discovered his religious affinity and exposed it.

To save his Presidency, he threw the Rev under the bus.

Mary

John McCain comes across as a psychologically mature adult-
Obama a whining, preening, always right, excuse making teenager whose parents have told him since he was a baby that he’s god’s gift to the universe. I’ve known more than a few.
How could you consider letting a teenager run your household, let alone a country?

Heather

Huzzah!

Hope

Once again the Obamanots try to explain and defend the indefensible. Every time Obama makes a mistake they come out in droves to explain why it wasn’t his fault. If this had been anyone else choosing not to visit our wounded troops, choosing instead to gather more photo ops by publicizing his exercise routine there would be outrage. It would be a campaign-ending mistake seen as the unpatriotic act it is. Why this double standard continues in the face of all that is honorable and American is beyond any semblance of intelligence or reason.

Katmoon

The addicts salute; looks like when the scarecrow on the wizard of oz points in all directions; blames everyone else for their behavior. What is O addicted to? His own narcissistic self.
terri

Yes, it’s been very interesting to me watching our daughter who is an atheist and hated Bush’s mixing of church and state now support Obama even though he has declared he’ll do the same. Her friends are for Obama so she’s going to support him do or die.

obama/clinton08

You are all insane. Do you really think he would not visit the troops just because he couldn’t bring cameras? Don’t you think someone in his camp would have realized that the right would jump all over it. Wake up. McCain jumped on this because he really doesn’t have much else to jump on. When Obama talks he talks about the concerns of the American people. When McCain talks he talks about Obama. He’s desperate. Can’t you see that? Besides I don’t think the voters are falling for this latest smear campaign.

Gallup Obama +9

educatedwhitewoman

“Do you really think he would not visit the troops just because he couldn’t bring cameras?”

Yes.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/what-is-wrong-with-barack-obama/

obama/clinton08

This will go nowhere. Move on to something else.

HARP

Not your site…You move on.
http://! flyarm

hey obama/clinton08 troll..did Larry make you boss of his web site???????

If not..don’t be telling anyone here what to do..or what to move onto…who died and made you boss????????

I believe you have the same Hubris as your messiah.

fly

Clinton Fan

YES!! Absolutely yes.

And his Major General “advisor”–that stupid fuck who was supposed to be his Liaison with the Landstuhl personnel–has been outed for it, too. The guy got into a pissing contest, made it all about him, and lost. If Obama hasn’t fired him yet, he should. The press has revealed the whole story, and it’s one of HUBRIS and ENTITLEMENT and RUDENESS…a metaphor for the entire Obama campaign, really.

Obama’s mistake was listening to the lousy little retired Major General at that stage. He shoulda said, “Fuck it, I’ll go alone with one SENATE (not campaign) staffer.” It’s not like he would have been lonely–his Secret Service detail would have been along, too. But, alas, NO CAMERAS…no REPORTERS!

Isolde

He did not have any Senate staffers with him. I wonder why not. Maybe because it was a CAMPAIGN trip. Why won’t the press ask why he would not walk into that hospital with only the Secret Service? Other Congress critters go alone, why not O? I am starting to think that he took campaign staff into the hospitals in Iraq and Afghanistan but it was too late for the military to stop it as they were standing there. Did someone tip off the hospital and Pentagon that he was doing this and so reminded them it is not allowed? The press knew that they would not be allowed in. Also remember the US press did not break this story. The German press did it.

beebop

Where is Hagel in this BS? What freaking nonsense this asshat produces for public consumption and expects patriotic American men and women to swallow without checking to see if it is truth or not? He’s going to make McGovern look like a close second.

terri

Hagel came out in support of Obama not visiting the troops. Hagel’s bucking for VP.

When is the Republican Convention, anyway?

imustprotest

September, Labor Day w/e I think.

beebop

Not only do we think it, we believe that he thought that the complicit media would back his skinny ass up on it. Poor Oblowme. Always the victim. Poor poor Oblowme. He’s never responsible. He’s always the people pleaser!

http://! Buzz Latte

Kindly remove Clinton’s name from your username. Do not attempt to put Obama and Clinton in the same class. There is no comparison.

PUMA!!
Katmoon

Snot
Dawnelle leóna del puma

r u THAT gullible?

sigh :-/
Lucinda

Don’t you think someone in his camp would have realized that the right would jump all over it?

They should have, but they always miss it, because they can’t see past the end of their own noses. And meanwhile, the RNC hasn’t even gotten warmed up yet. It’s going to be fun watching them taken Obama and his team of self-important, egomaniacs down.
Hope Floats

The Obamaborg is always good for a laugh. “Right wing conspiracy!” Just because it was a stupid mistake, the logic goes that Obama wouldn’t have done it unless he was absolutely forced to. He was tricked just like the FISA vote, campaign financing, NAFTA, buying his house he couldn’t afford without the help of a known criminal and sitting in Wright’s church for 20 years oblivious to the insanity being preached there and the Hamas manifestos included in the church bulletins. I gotta say, for people who deny being in a cult, you’re pretty delusional or gullible.
s. hall

Obama/Clinton 08 — No Cameras — No Obama. If it hadn’t been for the media holding us this immature fool — he would have been a distant memory.
Chicago Joe

I suggested last week that Obama would get a bump this week, by Monday, due to the trip. So it will be up for a few days, but then the rebound will set in, and then we will see where this is headed into the conventions. Then the electorate will be distracted by the Olympics, although it will be hard to watch them with a $5 mil air buy for Obama. But just as he got a bounce from the 1 week tour, (while Hillary’s 8 years in the WH were summarily dismissed by him), the disgust with his presumption of the president abroad role will kick in. I see them tied again within 10 days.
KidnPlay

If everyone is insane, then what are you worried about? Not so sure of yourself are you?
I’m sure that President John Kerry’s lead up until election day served him quite well also.
http://! flyarm

question: quote:

Do you really think he would not visit the troops just because he couldn’t bring cameras?

answer: absofuckinglutely!

http://! Buzz Latte

As my father says, ” It’s a peculiar kind of hell to have to shovel shyt all day.”

It must be hard to be a mindless and blind OBOTAND have to shovel shyt all day. Especially when no one is buying the Obama stink.

Ferdberfle

I’m laughing so hard, I’m crying. ROFL. I have been waiting all morning for some ignoramus troll to stop by. This is like shooting fish in a thimble.

Zeke

Not enough meat on them bones for me Ferd,
You can have him!

fred

Obama and most Democrats stand on the issue of civil liberties and what political leaders are not willing to do to protect those liberties. Now, that should be enough to make you withdraw your support from Obama’s presidency — if, that is, you still have illusions about the Democrats in general, and Barak Obama in this round of Anybody-But-Bush/McCain.

“What?” says you, “And let McCain win the election?”

To that it must be said: What on earth is the difference when the Democratic presidential nominee, during the election campaign, votes in the same way as a right-wing Republican not just on any bill, but on a bill curtailing people’s civil liberties?

s. hall

Fred — The Democratic Nominee is a Republican.

terri

How true. That’s why KKKarl is working with Batty Brazile to get him elected.

Yup, I gotta order that bumper sticker, “Don’t blame, I…..”

Hope

No, I think he wouldn’t visit the troops because he doesn’t give a damn about them.
And as far as someone in his camp realizing the reality of his idiocy, they seldom do.(For proof read through previous posts about the ever growing Obama gaffes, deliberate misconceptions, and flip flops.)
The audacity of the Obama campaign is through their uneraned sense of entitlement they believe the Obamessiah can do anything he wishes without anyone questioning him.

s. hall

hope — I am still trying to figure out why Obama threw Max Cleland under the bus last week and refused to appear with him at one of his events. Maybe Obama gets nervous around people who actually sacrificed themselves for this country.

HARP

Hillary managed to visit the troops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DspMOU4K8Xs

We Will Remember in November!

Thanks for that HARP.

When I view that I KNOW that somehow Hillary will be the nominee and the next president…it just has to be. She has the intelligence, the know how, the maturity and most of all she has empathy for her follow americans…no matter how much money she has.

PUMA.

Clinton Fan

Of course it has legs–big, long, skinny legs that can walk for miles!

Obama fucked UP. There’s no way around it. He went to the Ritz-Carlton gym and farted around (and it was breathlessly reported (he doesn’t SWEAT!!) by a blonde who asked for his picture as well) instead of forswearing his “retinue” and going alone to be a mensch and look into the faces of those kids, many of whom are suffering from hideous conditions, like burns, broken and missing limbs, blindness and tramatic brain injury. They sweated–a lot–in Iraq and the Stan.

That’s what happens when you hire a snippy little hubris-laden asshole Major General (read: FAILURE OF PROMOTION) to do your military liaison for you. The guy thought it was all about HIM and he tried to pull rank and bully the hospital and base staff into letting him play it his preferred way. The stupid jerk doesn’t realize that you can only get away with that rank pulling shit if you’re a four star like, say, Colin Powell, after you’ve retired. A crappy little Major General has about about as much ability to inspire a feeling of “Ewwwwww, we’d better HOP TO!!!” as a retired MAJOR….or a retired MAJOR ASSHOLE!

This issue does have legs, not because anyone necessarily believes that “Obama does not care about the troops.” He has gone on and on about the bullshit “sixteen months, more if THE GENERALS say so” nonsense forever. But what it does speak to is his PRIORITIES.

He had a chance to pop in–it’s an easy ride over. He could have done it QUIETLY, and let the inevitable YOUTUBE phone videos get out, making him look BETTER STILL–see, he doesn’t care about CAMERAS, now, does he? There was NOOOOO press–I managed to sneak these pics with my cellphone!!! OOOOOH!

He could have played it like he actually GAVE A SHIT. Instead, it became painfully clear that he wanted (needed?) the cameras and the hangers-on. Why? Because he isn’t COMFORTABLE in his own skin. He has ISSUES. He needs constant accolades, and a crowd of syncophants ooohing and aahing over his every move.

How does he take a shit by himself, I wonder? Does he have “canned” applause in the can? Or what?

Heather

Obama has not one molecule of mensch in him. After eight years of George W. Bush, we’ve become a whole society with damned little mensch in us, and the younger generation is proving where that gets you. In love with a fraud. Eight years of Bush cut the mensch right out of a generation of Americans. Those of us who still knows what the word means, we must fight back.
NoTrollZone

He doesn’t sweat? Where the hell are Scully and Mulder when you need them? Obama is the creepiest jellyfish to ever sally forth.
s. hall

This story has legs because Obama didn’t want to visit our horrifically injured troops so he could go exercise his unblemished body.

fred

Correct Obama doesn’t give a DAMN about the troops if they cannot shot hoops for a photo opt,(because their missing limbs, wounded)he has no need for those DEADENDERS, BITTER, CLINGING TO RELIGION, TROOPS

NotBrainwashed

And yet even with his loud anti-war stance he wants to escalate the war in Afghanistan. It was funny watching the Obot NYtimes bloggers trying to justify THAT. War is a-OK with those pascifists, as long as the Messiah supports it.

Barack Obama : “God damn the troops!”

Two months later: “That wasn’t the Barack Obama I knew!”

s. hall

not brainwashed — I guess a draft is ok with them too as long as its Obama that wants one.

PKJayne

Wow! Fred that was harsh, but dead bang on!

fred

shoot*
Katmoon

And truly DOD regulations regarding campaigning and protecting soldiers doesn’t change from hospital to hospital, the shit knew the rules before he left U .S. soil. This doesn’t fly well, with most people and especially us military families.
Shannon

McCain didn’t visit the troops on his European visit in March, yet he was closer to Landstuhl than Obama. Look at a map.

Sorry to burst your bubbles. But by your squealing, you have proven the point that McCain was also too busy to care about the troops.

This site is really pathetic.

Katmoon

Onramp Hog

Dawnelle leóna del puma

gawd KAT do you have all of them confirmed to memory already?

dayum you are quick!
PKJayne

lmao………..somebody post that list again, I need to copy it. Thank you in advance .

Dawnelle leóna del puma

Leave it PUMA

Leave it!

Don’t be tempted!

Katmoon

I know, I know, it just feels good sometimes.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

snicker!

Oh I love the name that troll game

I was talking to those that would debate the fool!

NoTrollZone

Please, let’s ignore the mindless wanderers from Middle Earth who find themselves breathless and slobbering on this site. Trolls need to play somewhere else. 3/4 of this thread are almost identical responses to one or two mindless nitwits. Please don’t feed the trolls– the food runs through them almost immediately and they make crap all over the place.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

ROFLOL

consider it done Number One!

Ferdberfle

Speaking of pathetic, didn’t you know the new talking points for Obamatrons came out yesterday. Pathetic isn’t on your word list. Better go check in with HQ.
countryfirst

stfu shannon, mccain visited the troops in germany and all you ignorant obama supporters should all be put on the front lines in the military. how dare you talk your shit about a pow, you retard !
Heather

You think the story was dreamed up by people on this site? Um … you need to broaden your newsgathering horizons.

beebop

To HuffyPoop? hahahahahaha … thanks, that would be me laughing at you and the bad decision making of the Oblowme.

s. hall

shannon why do you come here? Cause you get paid?
We Will Remember in November!

Bye.
terri

You’re Wrong. McCain DID visit the troops. you’re lying like your Lord and Master.

Katmoon

From the Obama campaign site

“I was going to be accompanied by one of my advisers, a former military officer,” he said. “And we got notice that he would be treated as a campaign person, and it would therefore be perceived as political because he had endorsed my candidacy but he wasn’t on the Senate staff.

“That triggered then a concern that maybe our visit was going to be perceived as political, and the last thing that I want to do is have injured soldiers and the staff at these wonderful institutions having to sort through whether this is political or not or get caught in the crossfire between campaigns.”

Heather

“That triggered then a concern that maybe our visit was going to be perceived as political, and the last thing that I want to do is have injured soldiers and the staff at these wonderful institutions having to sort through whether this is political or not or get caught in the crossfire between campaigns.”

– Have to hand it to Obama: He’s got a gift for making selfishness look saintly.

– I knew someone like that once. Son of a minister, raised as a prince in the eyes of his doting mother, he learned at an early age to BS his way out of every jam. An equivocator and temporizer, at age 53 he justified an extra-marital affair on the grounds that … well, if everyone at a 4-way stop insisted on someone else going first, no one would go anywhere. Yes, a Ph.D. computer professional actually believed the crap he spewed from this own mouth.

– And now with Obama we have another highly educated BS prince exhibiting the same narcissistic pattern. Except instead of screwing one wife and one mistress, this guy will be screwing millions.

imustprotest

Wow Heather another great comment. You are spot on with your analogy too.

Heather

Thanks! Recognize the type? ;>

imustprotest

Unfortunately, yes.

beebop

Unless that military adviser serves as a full time member of his SENATE STAFF it is VERBOTEN. Just like it is for every other senator. But HE WAS STILL ENTITLED TO COME ALL BY HIS PRECIOUS SELF and he cancelled on wounded American men and women.

We know what his priorities are. Americans are not it.

Dawnelle leóna del puma

and didn’t he have Sestak with him???

Shame on him for not advocating more strongly a visit! Or was there not enough NAVY men for the X Admiral was it??? 4 shame!

Perhaps a ship’s Captain or Petty Officer might have pushed a bit harder!

Dawnelle leóna del puma

too many typos

too much chat

bbl
peace all

Bell’Artista

Still waters run deep
Love that Johnny Mac!

This whole thing reminds me of Aesop’s “the tortoise and the hare”

Little o will be really hurt by this, Americans don’t like effete narcissists that diss our soldiers, ESPECIALLY when they’ve been wounded protecting the freedoms of bottom feeders like OBottom

Chelsea Patriot

LMAO!!! Obottom!!!! OMG!!!!
Barry Obottom!!!

La Bell’Arista e Brillante!!!

Denise

Do you think the posters on here that Obama pays to post these nasty un-intellectual scripts will actually vote for Obama?

Ferdberfle

Only if there’s a polling station on skid row.
Heather

Heck no, they’ll be too busy hacking into the voting machines on election day … and hence relieving themselves (and everyone else!) of the need to vote
beebop

If he’s paying for votes, sure. They have the same level of values he does … NONE.

s. hall

beebop — Did you hear that Obama gave free beer and sausages to those who attended his speech in Berlin? Also that he paid for 2 popular bands to appear in order to get a crowd.

beebop

And the World Wildlife Fund gave out tens of thousands of tee shirts with the polar bear on it. That Obama! Such a guy. He knew all of those people were coming so he arranged to market — er —- feed and entertain them for free out of the universal goodness of his heart. Right. The same heart he showed the troops.

http://! flyarm

free beer and food for the Germans..wooo wooo….and nada, nothing ..zip, zilch not a moment of his precious time.. for the wounded American soldiers..what a guyyyyyyyyyy!! ..makes me want to make excuses for him and vote for the guy………NOT!

Trolls are a disgrace to this nation ..just like their filthy pig messiah.

fly

http://! flyarm

yeah ..if they get one of those cute ipods the kids got in IOWA..sure..they will vote..as long as there is no kegger party or rave going on and they think they will get the free ipod!

fly

Obama ist ein arschloch

ABC better watch its step.
They’re in the eyebeam of NYT hit writers.
Ani

Love itr. That is exactly correct. He could have taken the time to visit the troops if he was willing to go without press coverage.

Obama — it is called a selfless act.

His justifications after the fact about ‘perceptions’ are nonsense.

If you want to show you cre, you visit the troops. If someone criticizes you — stand up like a man — or a woman — and take the heat.

Does anyone here really think Hillary wouldn’t have gone. She would have visited them no matter what.

That is Presidential. It is also the decent thing to do. If he had time to do a work-out, he had time to visit the troops.
politicsIsdirty

Noah, do some research about Obama. Do not be contented with what CNN and MSNBC is feeding you.

Independent thinking is the key to a good decision.

Good luck, friend.
Katmoon

The other glaring fact is, Senator McCain has been the one recovery as a wounded soldier himself, you know his perspective not doubt has more understanding and compassion by (here it comes, here’s that word) Experience
http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

News Flash
McCain gave Obama a challenge today to not lie to the American public for one week.

Obama response was: I can’t, I have to be out meeting with the public and giving speeches so they get to know me.

Axelrod Astroturf response was: We cannot take our candidate off the market for a week because voters might begin to actually think. We hold McCain to a low esteem in trying to challenge us to have our candidate not get his message of hope and change out to the voters ….. one minute please, another call coming in….What, you get Dean to go to Germany and meet with those troops, just keep him occupied until after August 28th somewhere and send Jesse Jackson Sr with him……..sorry, like I was saying our message is vital to the voters of a new begining in Washington, and our candidate has demenstrated in every appearance just the sort of President he will be for the American public, with his policies and his likeability. Now I must go, Simon Cowles on the phone and I need to take this!
http://novemberblog.blogspot.com Noah

I’m not getting paid by anybody to post anything.

Ferdberfle

I see you got the *new* talking points from HQ. That’s good. We all need a laugh here once in a while.
Dawnelle leóna del puma

That is good to know!

It means there is still hope for you

If you were just an admitted bought and paid for ~~pimp~~

long-legged mack daddy

TROLL like your idol it would not be worth trying to

save

educate you!
Donna Brazile

That’s to bad! At least then your position would make sense. Now, I just feel sorry for you.

Stop the hate!
beebop

Well, they are certainly getting their money’s worth!
Chelsea Patriot

You are Complete Camp, Mary!
http://! flyarm

Comment by Noah | 2008-07-27 13:03:27

I’m not getting paid by anybody to post anything.

fly’s reply..yeah and pink pigs fly!!

neither were the bush trolls….remember them??..i sure do..and some got pissed off enough when they didn’t get their checks to spill the beans…

smae will happen to you if you don’t get your check..you really are pathetic..do you think those of us who post here just fell off the turnip truck??????????

we are not new to politics as obviously you are..now..back to the basement with you!!

fly

Katmoon

The kind of experience money cannot buy, his experience as a soldier, a wounded soldier.

Puma/Clinton
McCain 08
http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

You should check out the crowd that came out to see barky today in Indianapolis.
It’s on ESPN right now.

Bell’Artista

so barky is back from camp?

http://fuckoveramerica.com Obama Campaign Headquarters

PRESS RELEASE:

Barack Obama is not able to make his scheduled appearance at the opening session of Camp Obama being held today in Indianapolis. Turn out for the event was so overwhelming it had to be moved to Speedway Park.

Thanks for your support

Obama/Wright 08

http://! flyarm

guess ole barky sending you here is pretty worried about the story of him dissing our wounded soliders getting spread too far and wide..that must be the reason so many of you trolls have shown up jere the past couple days …

hope you choke on those nasty checks you are cashing to spread propaganda…i bet you do a damn good Heil!

fly

http://! flyarm

oh you mean Obama could make it in front of crowds in Indianapolis ..but not to meet with our wounded troops in Germany?????????

sounds about right.

fly

http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

News Flash

Sunday August 2nd a round table was called to have a meeting with all the messiah’s. Included in confirmed attendance are Ghandi, Jesus, Mohammed, Budda, Dalhi Lama. Obama was to attend, but when he found out no media was allowed, he cancelled claiming to not want have the appearance of a political event.

NoTrollZone

Michelle-O says that Ghandi, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddah, the Dali Lama, the Virgin Mary, and Mother Theresa are all racists so Barry couldn’t go.

NotBrainwashed

Obambi wouldn’t want to be seen meeting with leaders inferior to himself. He outshines them all, without even trying. Who needs accomplishments? Barry O. sure doesn’t!

Katmoon

Blackwater Got the Gig Securing Obama in Afghanistan
July 25, 2008 05:00 PM ET | Paul Bedard

Sen. Barack Obama has not been a fan of private police like Blackwater in war zones, and some news outlets even reported that they were spurned for his trip last week to Afghanistan and Iraq. But Whispers confirms that Blackwater did handle the Democratic presidential candidate’s security in Afghanistan and helped out in Iraq. What’s more, Obama was overheard saying: “Blackwater is getting a bad rap.”

usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/7/25/blackwater-got-the-gig-securing-obama-in-afghanistan.html

Ferdberfle

Here comes the private army he’s been flapping his jib about.
Heather

“Sen. Barack Obama has not been a fan of private police like Blackwater in war zones”

– That’s odd, as I recall his early statements about getting troops out of Iraq was very clear on leaving “contractors” and “special forces” there. Sounded to me, at the time, like he was a fan of Blackwater.

beebop

He absolutely is … unless he isn’t …. which day is it? What’s the audience? Who’s asking? Are they donating?

JealousCarper

IS OBAMA SCHIZOPHRENIC?

In Berlin speech, Obama says he will tear down the walls between immigrants and natives, rich countries and poor countries

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W42oxgEN_I
at the 2:28 mark

But he voted for the Mexico/US border wall in 2006

http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/176290,CST-EDT-REF18.article

beebop

A foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Do you think he had Oblowme in mind?
http://! Buzz Latte

That sounds a lot like a communist/fascist manifesto.

Barky must never to POTUS. While I’ve never believed in the anti-christ, I AM beginning to believe Barky could indeed be one and the same.

allie baba wan kenobe

“bama does not know how to pronounce or spell the word apology!
dee4hill

The more I see McCain, the more I like him. If we can’t have Hillary, he’s the one for me. What an honorable man. Lovely personality. No wonder Obamababy is scared to debate him. He speaks in cohesive sentences… you can actually understand what he’s saying – not a bunch of uhs and ahs…

Guess I had my head stuck up the Dems butts too many years to give anyone else a chance. It’ll never happen again, unless it’s Hill….

Hillary or McCain ’08!!!

s. hall

dee4hill — McCain speaks with passion and warmth as did Hillary. I am very comfortable with him.

beebop

Not to mention that he doesn’t seem to blow smoke up my skirt … and call us “sweetie.”

PKJayne

I agree, no Hill then I am down with McCain.

Richard C.

I think this story has the potential to be very damaging. The Obama campaign cited the Pentagon for why he did not visit wounded soldiers, when it was really that he couldn’t take the media and the cameras with him. So much for his Eva Peron-style “Rainbow Tour”! withoutparty.com

PKJayne

Richard hopefully this will wake up some who are sleeping to see Barry for the liar he is.

AX10

Perhaps Mr. Obama did not want to be bothered (or take the time to understand) with the less pleasant things in life, such as amputated limbs and disease.
http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. bobbi Anne white

You know the media really missed this, but when Obamaboozle was on his rock tour, McCain met with the Dalia Lama. You know even a nitwit like Britney spears thinks that boycotting the Beijing games is the right thing.
Instead OBamboozle is spending 5 million on ads at the Beijing Olympics.
steel magnolia

Obama doesn’t want to go anywhere without his campaign staff or advisors. He’s so afraid of making a mistake or saying the wrong thing, he has to be babysat by someone everywhere he goes. A true LEADER would have made the decision to go, alone, to visit the men and women who have put their lives and limbs on the line for their country and given them the courtesy and respect they deserve. It’s called JUDGEMENT, people. But this man can’t make those true leadership decisions without having his handlers with him – Barky might misspeak or make a wrong move and look bad. Without anything scripted and every move correographed, he’s paralyzed. That’s what McCain should have pointed out – the lack of leadership and judgement skills this man shows!
Obama is a bum

I question whether the troops would have loved to see Obama. If I were in the military I would not want to see Obama. Being wounded and having a worthless punk like Obama standing over me is something I would not want to experience.
http://dianej.wordpress.com DianeJ

I am sorry I stayed away from any type of naming calling re:Obama but because he was in Germany and decided not to visit our troops he is a SHITHEAD.

What a slap in the face Obama gave our wounded troops. What a slap in the face Obama gave the families and loved ones of our troops. What a slap in the face he gave ALL AMERICANS.

SENATOR OBAMA AND LEFTY CHEER-WING FRIENDS……….SHITHEAD CAMES TO MIND NOW WHEN I THINK OF OBAMA.

NEVER mind the stupid rumor of the left re: crap cannon – BABIES YOU GOT ONE ALREADY – OBAMA.
RepublicanChick

This thread has been entertaining. How many times do posters have to spell out the conditions the Pentagon set forth to Obama’s people? Since he obviously hasn’t made much of an effort to visit the Troops before, he and his minions didn’t know the rules. Although, the General who is advising him should know the rules.

Obama isn’t a Republican—he’s all yours. Well, the Democrats who still believe he’s the best thing since slice bread.

As depressing as McCain’s nomination win has seemed in the past few months, I’m glad I don’t have to wake up thinking about voting for Obama. Yuck!
Babs

I believe that Obama is most uncomfortable around military people, and that sense of not knowing what to say would only be doubled when visiting wounded soldiers. First of all, we know he’s not a worker, doesn’t want to study so he can know the issues backwards and forward so he can look decent in debates, so he probably doesn’t know the difference between a brigade and a batallion. Add to that the fact that he is so self-absorbed that he has no time for empathy and concern for others, and you have a man who wouldn’t know how to begin a real conversation with a wounded soldier. I have always considered him to be a very cowardly man – this latest action on his part only reinforces that belief. It will be a pleasure to cast my vote for John McCain.
Linda C.

Since King Bush II has consolidated more power in the Executive Branch and this power will be passed on thanks to things like FISA..who do you want to wield it? McCain or Obama? Which one of these individuals has better boundaries regarding what is acceptable and what isn’t. Which one of these candidates would be more than likely to misuse this power?

Getting back to the troop thing. The convenient excuse Obama visited the troops in Afghanistan when he went as a Congressional delegation..in other words, our dime. The German Rallies were paid for by his own campaign, his dime.
The twisted logic isn’t who pays for the trip, but under which conditions are appropriate in visiting the troops. If he ever visited soldiers at Walter Reed, he would have known you can’t take you media with you. He also didn’t take his own media with him in Afghanistan to play basketball.

Who actually believes that the trip to Afghanistan and Iraq..was non campaign related? It was all campaign related and Obama wishes us to beleive his convoluted BS.
Indiana Dem

I get weary of saying it, but I’ll say it again.

Just compare John McCain’s actual voting record on veterans’ benefits and health care issues, combat troop equipment and safety, and time between combat zone tours with that of Barack Obama.

Then tell me again that Obama doesn’t care for our men and women in uniform, while John McCain clearly does.

Compared with John McCain’s actual voting record–from the beginning of the War in Iraq right up to his recent opposition to and ultimate failure to vote at all on the 2008 GI Bill–Barack Obama missing a hospital visit in Germany is totally meaningless.

Barack Obama has never been on the wrong side of any veterans’ issue, or any issue having to do with the care and safety of troops in the field.

That’s the fact of the situation, like it or not.

http://! Buzz Latte

Your opinion only and you’re entitled to it. However, Obama is in consistent as we all know in his loyalties. I believe the term is flip-flopper…

Let’s stick to reality as of today. Obama could not be bothered to support wounded troops with a quick visit. Why? His explanation is not good enough and seasoned voters know no politician does anything purely out of the goodness of their hearts. This is particularly true of Obama. The WHAAAAA sob, sob, sob, the Pentagon wouldn’t let me excuse was a flat out lie and Obama has been rightly busted for it.

When Obama didn’t bother to meet with troops in Afganistan – but instead chose to do a photo-op basketball game and then didn’t meet with wounded soldiers, the message is clear.

Mac Daddy Obama was too afraid to be in their presence since he voted against funding for the troops. He demoralized people in uniform with his constantly needy ego appetite for photo-ops and press adulation. This time it didn’t work too well however, as the press has begun to backlash.

He is a liar and a sham and has no business even being considered as a POTUS contender on any front.

http://dianej.wordpress.com DianeJ

obama could have went to see the troops if he wanted to go see them and he did not go and that is the bottom line. it is something that truly disgusts me. i will not vote for him. i do not trust him. he belongs to the far left……..he will say whatever he things is necessary to get the votes. he disrespected our troops, their families and all americans. sometimes the truth is so simple………HE DID NOT GO TO VISIT OUR TROOPS. END OF STORY.

james

What do you think will hurt a soldier most?

Remembering Barack Obama didn’t visit the hospital?

Or McCain’s numerous votes during the past few years against increased funding for veterans’ medical care, veterans’ outpatient services, and his opposition to veterans’ education benefits?

Unfortunately the story doesn’t end when a wounded soldier leaves the service.

http://dianej.wordpress.com DianeJ

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman took issue with Gration’s statement, saying that the Defense Department did not object to Obama visiting in his role as an Illinois senator but it did not want campaign staff or the media present.
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