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Obamamania Is But a Dying Ember [Update]

By Bronwyn's Harbor on December 17, 2009 at 5:25 AM in Current Affairs

* BUMPED UP A SECOND TIME, with this recommendation: Do not miss LisaB’s accompanying article, “Obama Gives Himself a B+; U.S. Says C-.”

UPDATE THOUGHT: When your site has been overwhelmingly pro-Obama and, in the year gone by following his ascendancy, you find yourselves gleaning the archives for a primary video of Hillary Clinton taking down Obama, you know that not only has the fire gone out of your besotted romance with The One, but that Obama himself has jumped the shark.

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Andy sent me this clip tonight from TalkLeft blog, whose foremost spokesperson was a super-seriously dedicated Obama supporter during the primaries and election cycles and went so far as to censor any comments that expressed negative statements about Obama. Now her second-in-charge, Big Tent Democrat, posts this video with the CLINCHER statement for you to read, below the fold:

Then adds Big Tent Democrat:

DRUMROLL!

It remains the most prescient statement of the primaries.

What an admission.

We tried to tell them, didn’t we. Hillary sure told them, didn’t she.

If only the besotted Obamabots had sobered up before now.

I suppose you all saw the Oprah interview of Obama audaciously giving himself a confident B+ for his performance to date as president. Only the most self-centered, unreality-based president would see himself as having accomplished ANYTHING to date.

Explaining why he wouldn’t give himself top marks, the president said his administration had “inherited the biggest set of challenges of any president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt” which they were still working on. …

THERE he goes again, trying to place himself on a pedestal at the same heights of that of FDR. He is fixated on history remembering him at the new FDR. As I wrote the other day in “Harry’s Imaginary Friends & His Dangerously Flawed Health Care Plan“:

Have you ever before observed the obsessive efforts expended on legislation whose passage, the president fantasizes, will make him rank as high as FDR in the history books?

Here’s Greta on the grading:

I mean, his FDR fixation aside, what on earth HAS he accomplished? Is there anything? I am genuinely curious if any of you can think of a single significant accomplishment.

The man is a legend. In his own mind. But his most ardent supporters are falling away in droves. Too late, of course.

Will voters ever learn to vote with their minds and not their hearts? Will they ever realize that the words in a speech are just words, and not any indication whatsoever that the promises can be kept or that the orator has the requisite abilities and experience to make such promises real?

I wonder.

When even the brightest — like the writers for TalkLeft — got completely swept up by Obamamania — I feel cynical about the prospect for a qualified candidate who doesn’t capture people’s imaginations and instead speaks knowledgeably about the hard work realities, as did Hillary Clinton in the clip above.

  • jwrjr

    He has the biggest budget defecits of any President ever

    • jwrjr

      That is sort of an accomplishment. Just not a good one.

      • Bronwyn’s Harbor

        That is a perfect item to list!

        Perhaps what we should do in this Comments section is to make a list of all of these “achievements,” and then create a new post compiled from our readers’ contributions!

        Have at it, all!

        • jwrjr

          Blaming it on Bush would be pure, toxic BS. Democrats have controlled Congress for the last 3 years.

          • andrew

            So exactly how long do you think it actually took for 8 years of Bush and 12 consecutive years of a Republican-dominated Congress to become totally irrelevant to the present situation? At what point did everything become the fault of the Democrats? When was that moment?

            • jwrjr

              When the Dims had 3 years to address the problem and did nothing. I never said that the Republicans were blameless. But blaming everything on them is a lame attempt to dodge blame.

            • BlueTopaz

              There were many moments. The biggest, imho, was on the afternoon of May 31, 2008.

              • CalGal4hlllary

                BlueTopaz, I agree with you 100%. That was the day when the Dems “selected” BHO as their candidate and the day I lost all respect for the Dem party. BHO was selected, not elected.

              • maddie

                Yep..even the sky was crying.

              • Sandy

                I remember that day well,and I am not likely to forget it anytime soon.Damn the Dems and the DNC for what they have done to this party.

            • Ferd Berfle

              Ahem… Andy–this isn’t about Bush, now is it? I’m no Bush supporter and never voted for the m o r o n but as I didn’t think it was fair of him to blame Clinton for his stupidity, I also don’t think it fair to Blame Shrub for your own ideologue’s s t u p i d policies.

              Fair is fair. But then, you’re a troll so I’m commenting in a pickle barrel.

              • andrew

                If we blame it all on Obama and focus entirely on that, we simultanously disregard the multitude of systemic problems that have led us up to our current predicament over a period of many years.

                Blaming it all on Obama is too simplistic to do us any good, unless all we mean by “good” is reinstalling the same old republican paradigms and the same old republican ways of doing business.

                • Janis

                  Obama was and is a symptom of those systemic problems. He wouldn’t even be in office if it weren’t for the CHAIR OF THE RULES AND BYLAWS COMMITTEE, WHO IS THE CEO OF TUFTS HEALTH PLAN. He wouldn’t fucking BE PRESIDENT if not for a health insurance CEO!

                  Yes, I BLAME HIM COMPLETELY, because he IS the problem. He would be a junior senator from noplace special if it weren’t for the systemic problems that put talentless sales hacks like him in power in the first place.

            • PO’dVet

              That “moment” was when your Messiah surpassed George Dumbya’s spending over 8 years in less than his first year in office! At the rate he is giving taxpayers money away to his corrupt friends…By the time his term is up in 3 years 1 month and 28 days. He will have spent more money, than not only all previous administrations combined, but you would also have to add the spending of the USSR when it was together, and the spending of England since the beginning of WW2!!

        • Docelder

          Well he picked Biden at 3 a.m. in an obvious rebuttal to Hillary. The message seems to be that Biden will be answering the 3 a.m. calls. If anybody answers it, it would be Mechelle if only to tell the caller to call back during normal business hours at 10 a.m.

          • Ferd Berfle

            Spot on, except, Me-Chelle would ask for the caller to deliver a pizza and reverse the charges, as it were.

            • http://civilizationsaver.blogspot.com/ SWPAnnA

              …while the bedside teleprompter scrolls: “Who’s Yer Daddy?!!!

          • cf

            “Well he picked Biden at 3 a.m. in an obvious rebuttal to Hillary.”

            Ahh! Never made the connection – he DID announce the Biden pick at 3a.m. Remember how pissed the people were who waited for The One’s text?

        • Docelder

          He got both North Korea and Russia to test fire missiles in obvious defiance of the U.S. North Korea firing toward the U.S. and Russia firing over Norway the day before Obama gives his peace prize speech. Welcome back Carter.

        • lorac

          I found this in the comments section at Uppity Woman:

          http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-12-14/politics-city-county-government/politics-opinion/oconnor-is-obama-a-half-term-president-or-a-political-genius

          Making a list and checking it twice
          Write down every campaign promise you made and check it twice. Be honest.

          – Winding down or ending wars? No.
          – Ending lobbyists’ influence in politics? No.
          – Providing money to Wall Street to save Main Street? No.
          – Guaranteeing transparency? No.
          – Bringing America together? No.
          – Halting foreclosures? No.
          – Providing widespread mortgage relief? No.
          – Reigning in Wall Street? No.

          Sad, isn’t it?

      • trixta

        Obama reminds me of some of my more cockier students who think they deserve an “A” just for showing up to class or for turning in an assignment.

        BTW, the posts responding to BTD are also very revealing and are worth reading. Finally, there is a discussion about the primaries that are, for lack of a better word, civil.

        • elizabethrc

          In the cold light of day, would Obama be admitted to an upper tier college without showing some sort of history of accomplishment, without providing proof of his past school performance, or would any of these same schools just give him a pass because he has a wide smile? Sounds like that’s what they did (affirmative action), and it sounds like what he expects us to do now. Take him at his word? Hardly! Trust his judgment (I had that one stuffed down my throat during the campaign more than once, along with racism charges)? Where has he shown judicious thinking? Uniter? Nope!
          There aren’t any more bridges we are willing to sell to the fools who believed whatever they wanted to believe about Obama, and they were more than willing to suspend their intellectual curiosity in order to get him elected.
          Let’s see how they repair the damage they’ve caused.

        • bayareavoter

          Yes, I thought the comments on BTD were an interesting read, too.

    • andrew

      “He has the biggest budget defecits of any President ever…”

      …with two wars already in progress, during one of the worst economic periods the country has seen since the Great Depression. Is it possible there’s some connection?

      • Owllwoman

        Well, andrew, if you use that sorry excuse for Obama then it, in all fairness needs to be used for Bush. He had 9-11 and the following down turn of our ecomony How quickly you have forgoten. It is time Obama stops spending and just resigns. He is in way over his head, and we are the ones who will pay for it in the end. And not just us but our children and grandchildren.

      • cookiegramma

        how sad that some who comment do not remember that the names of those in charge of the deepest problem areas leading to the economic downfall. Barney Franks of Massachusetts was deeply involved in oversight of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. Last I checked he still maintained a big D next to his name. Chris Dodd has long held the position in the senate over banking oversight. He was so busy protecting his name and big D behind it that he forgot and overlooked the banking fiasco building over mortgages.
        Lets not forget that a huge portion of the deficit building that has occurred in the past year have happened because of the failures of these “leaders” to actually do the job they were expected to do. Fortunately it looks very much like the people of my state Ct. are prepared to hand Dodd his walking papers for all of his failures.
        War is expensive, but Bush tried to run these two on the cheap.

        • jbjd

          I wish more voters in the Bay State saw Mr. Frank as clearly as you do.

          • MBC

            Is there anything we can do to help pass the word before the next election. Phone calls maybe to CT residents. We did it for Hillary and it worked well. Who is the other candidate? Not that it really matters, we have got to banish that man.

            Also, have you seen Col. West yet?

            • cookiegramma

              sorry about not getting back to your questions sooner but I will try to answer them. The dems are very nervous about Dodd in Ct, they sent Biden just last week to campaign for him. His numbers are well behind those of all republicans that have stepped forward to challenge him and the talk I have heard is that they are trying to find someone to possibly put up in his place. Many residents are angry because he moved his family to Iowa durring his failed run for the top job. Off the top of my head I can tell you that opponants include Linda McMahan (sp) formerly of wwf founding family and former representative Simmons. The later has a double digit lead over Dodd in the polls. I don’t know what it means but in the nov elections a good number of cities and towns turned power over to republicans.
              I hope I don’t seem simple, but who is Col. West? I’m sorry, my time to hear about new people is short. I have a trio of students who live on my home computer doing research.

    • tek

      deficits: I just read the U. S. is sending 2.7 billion to Kenya for AIDS. I do think efforts should be made to cure AIDS, but is this the time to send them billions we don’t even have?

      I left TalkLeft because they (especially Jeralyn) got so obsessed with Obama. The guy site manager attacked me for saying Obama was drafted to run. Today, Dick Durbin speaks all over country telling the story of how he “marched down to Obama’s office on Capitol Hill” and told him he HAD to run for president to stop Hillary Clinton.

  • hattip

    When even the brightest — like the writers for TalkLeft

    Well if that is the Left’s idea of “brightness” no wonder we got Obama.

    • Bronwyn’s Harbor

      Heh.

      Actually, there is no question of the IQ of those who run that blog.

      Another matter: It was deeply disturbing to me that during the general election race, it was verboten to write any comment at TalkLeft that spoke ill of Obama.

      Sadly, that is typical of the far left. They may be all for full rights for Guantanamo detainees, but an average American who isn’t wild about Obama dared not write a comment expressing any concern about his qualifications. In fact, it was considered “racist” to do so. The behavior of the left during the 2007-2008 elections was despicable.

      • ~~JustMe~~

        The left were so busy crushing everything anyone else said during the election cycle, they could not see the biggest sham was they torn themselves down to the lowest level possible. Making the rest eventually came together, proving all along they could see the downturn of everything Obama’s team promised in their Hope and Change!

        How strange when issues and innuendos go full circle?

        • ~~JustMe~~

          came = come

      • bayareavoter

        I like to refer to them as “the so-called far left” because Hillary was the REAL progressive in that primary fight but they were blinded by the new bright shiny object.

        If they were really far left they would have seen that her domestic policies were much more “left” than BO’s.

        • Janis

          And they were blinded by the terrifying killing radiation apparently coming from her scary girlparts.

    • Patti

      With all due respect to Bronwyn, Jeralyn at TalkLeft was a Hillary supporter in the primary, not an Obama supporter. She did jump on the bandwagon during the primaries and wanted no negative talk. BTD only supported Obama because he thought he had a better chance of winning the general than Hillary. Nevertheless, he has not hesitated to criticize (& praise) Obama from the beginning. BTD’s famous line is “a pol is a pol”.

      • Patti

        Sorry, I meant to say that Jeralyn at TL did jump on the Obama bandwagon during the GENERAL election, not the primary.

        • Patti

          Bronwyn, I just went to BTD’s post with the video you posted and you are being completely disingenuous here. He was actually mocking the Huffington Post for posting and attacking this video of Hillary. See his first comment.

      • http://! stodgie

        patti, i was a member of talk left for awhile and left when any discussion of obama that wasn’t koolaid driven was forbidden. it would appear that some on talk left were more interested in getting their pictures taken with celebs at the dem convention that addressing the serious issues that were very clear to those who would stop look and take off their blinders.

        big tent is the smartest of the bunch but he disappointed with his a pol is just a pol. he missed the boat and is still not getting it or he’d be yelling from the roof tops what losers these dimwatts are.

        • Patti

          stodgie, I was only a reader, but yes, I observed the change at TL as well and quit going there during the general. I lost all respect for JM. I go there now from time to time and it seems BTD is pretty disappointed. See his admission today:
          http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/12/15/145443/71

          • Peggy Sue

            I just pulled that link up. Not only is the main post saturated with disappointment but the following comments are downright bitter. And there’s a decided whiff of Hillary Clinton longing.

            What can I say? So many at NQ saw it all along as the best candidate was kicked to the curb for the wonder of The One. I wish I could feel some joy in their misery. But there’s no joy in watching a trainwreck, particularly when we’re all on the train.

            A frigging disaster!

            • Patti

              Honestly, there were a lot of Hillary supporters at TL, even after BO won the Dem nomination AND the election. I just don’t feel the schadenfreude towards TL that I do towards other blogs like Huffington, Kos, you know the rest. Overall, I don’t see TL as a cheerleading team for Obama.

              • tek

                Big Tent said always he was supporting Obama because he believed Obama could be elected. I thought that was so lame. What, we have to latch onto whatever loser the powers that be offer up?

                This is why we have Manchurian Candidates in the WH today. American voters have lost the spark to fight for true leaders in their government.

                • lorac

                  Has he made any kind of acknowledgement that he was wrong, that actually HILLARY won the primary? (and would have “won”…. we know the rest)

            • http://! stodgie

              we can replace 1/3 of the senate and 100% of the house in 2010. let’s get to work and get those idiots out of our hair once and for all! yeah team

        • Patti

          stodgie, I commented to your post but where it is, I dunno. I was a reader at TL, but left during the general as you did. I lost all respect for JM. I think BTD is plenty disappointed. In fact, see his post of admission today “Wrong About Obama”: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/12/15/145443/71

          • http://! stodgie

            patti, thanks for the referral. it does seem that big tent is deeply disappointed. he is in my view not at blinded by the koolaid and was always much smarter. it shows now. good for him!

      • lone flamingo

        patti,
        i was banned from tl by jeralyn herself for MILDLY negative comments about obama and positive about hillary. she was downright NASTY about it. i left and never went back.

        • tek

          lone flamingo: similar experience.

        • Patti

          I believe you, lone flamingo. I’m just saying that during the primary, Jeralyn was a big Hillary fan, not an Obama fan. She changed once O stole the nomination. So this post by Bronwyn has some factual errors.

  • Docelder

    Will they ever realize that the words in a speech are just words

    In this case not even those words are his words. Instead they are the product of a twenty something writer tweaked according to focus group polling and tailored to be exactly what the local audience wants to hear the most. Such words could never have been real to begin with. Maybe the biggest fantasy isn’t that what he says is true, but instead that he could speak the truth even if he wanted to.

    • Bronwyn’s Harbor

      Maybe the biggest fantasy isn’t that what he says is true, but instead that he could speak the truth even if he wanted to.

      Or know it.

      • sowsear

        But why aren’t our reps listening to the people instead of listening to the voices in BO’s head?

        • jwrjr

          We don’t bribe pay them enough.

          • tek

            Lol! Exactly right. How sad.

    • creeper

      Docelder, maybe that’s also why people are so hungry for Sarah Palin’s words. Whatever else she is, she’s real.

      • Docelder

        I think that is the same Ronald Reagan magic. Being a real person and believing in America and Americans. It doesn’t sound like so much written out in a sentence like that, but I guess it is harder to come by than we might think it is apparently.

      • tek

        Sarah Palin is another one of these let the market do its thing candidates. When are people going to figure out, we’re in this mess because the Bush administration removed all restrictions and regulations on the financial sector and their greed destroyed the economy?

        The market is selfish and greedy and it’s never “free,” it’s controlled by the corporate elite when regulations don’t control it.

        • creeper

          tek, I think that’s an unfair generalization. Palin stood up squarely to big oil, in favor of the people of Alaska. There’s nothing in her record that leads me to believe she’d ignore the best interests of the people of the United States. Certainly, she couldn’t be worse than what we have now.

          And at least she HAS a record…

          http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/29/news/newsmakers/palin_oil.fortune/index.htm

          • tek

            creeper: it’s true and for a long time, I liked her. Well, I still like her. She’s a person who fought to get to the top. But, lately her speeches sound too much like Dubya for my taste.

            • creeper

              tek, I long ago quit listening to what politicians say. I judge them by what they do. Which is why my initial support for Barack Obama after the 2004 convention evaporated in short order. Those were pretty words he spoke but the reality of his record (or, rather, total lack of a record) belied his words.

              For all the left’s demonizing Palin as a Christian wingnut, I haven’t forgotten that her first veto as Governor of Alaska was to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. The effect of that veto was to extend state benefits to same-sex couples.

              I sometimes find Palin’s words ugly. The reality of her record overcomes them.

              Quit listening to these people and watch them instead. That is how you will know who is competent and who is not.

            • creeper

              tek, I long ago quit listening to what politicians say. I judge them by what they do. Which is why my initial support for Barack Obama after the 2004 convention evaporated in short order. Those were pretty words he spoke but the reality of his record (or, rather, total lack of a record) belied his words.

              For all the left’s demonizing Palin as a Christian wingnut, I haven’t forgotten that her first veto as Governor of Alaska was to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. The effect of that veto was to extend state benefits to same-sex couples.

              I sometimes find Palin’s words ugly. The reality of her record overcomes them.

              Quit listening to these people and watch them instead. That is how you will know who is competent and who is not.

              (my apologies in advance if this double-posts. Admin, feel free to eliminate one)

            • creeper

              tek, I long ago quit listening to what politicians say. I judge them by what they do. Which is why my initial support for Barack Obama after the 2004 convention evaporated in short order. Those were pretty words he spoke but the reality of his record (or, rather, total lack of a record) belied his words.

              For all the left’s demonizing Palin as a Christian wingnut, I haven’t forgotten that her first veto as Governor of Alaska was to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. The effect of that veto was to extend state benefits to same-sex couples.

              I sometimes find Palin’s words ugly. The reality of her record overcomes them.

              We need to auit listening to these people and watch them instead. That is how we will know who is competent and who is not.

          • Betty

            AMEN tek, and creeper don’t even start that –

            Certainly, she couldn’t’t be worse than what we have now.

            – crap.

            • creeper

              What I wrote was NOT “crap”. It was the truth. A slug would be better than what we have now.

              Come to think of it, a slug IS what we have now.

              If you’re going to take issue with something I’ve written, do with with a logical argument, not name-calling.

  • http://www.BullShit.com Osellingbullshit

    Obama is one nauseating narcissistic piece of work. Every time he creeps up on my TV screen, I get so constipated I had to leave the room to find some laxatives for relief.

    I also found out that when I read the news on paper or the web without an Obama picture in them, my stomach feels much better.

    So, I have decide avoid any images of Obama and company for my own health. Believe me, it took me awhile to figure out that my constipation was Obama-related.

  • Tricia

    I hope people learned some sort of lesson about campaign politics, to look no matter how hard to ensure that underneath whatever might attract you there must be some substance. Political persuasion is truly easy to do–hide the negatives and give people the words they need to hear to believe in you. Have others in the background relentlessly smear the competition and make unfounded slurs about them if there is nothing substantive to criticize.

    I hope it is not too late for us. This President would probably be fun in times of peace and prosperity–but we are in terrible times and we need solid leadership and someone who gives a shit about us.

    Having said all that, I was happy that Obama did back off of Bush’s stem cell ban. Any Democratic President would have done it, however. But do have to give credit there. There are a couple of other positive executive orders, but certainly nothing compared to what a “hope and change” President should have accomplished in a year if he had real talent.

    • Diana L. C.

      There are a couple of other positive executive orders, but certainly nothing compared to what a “hope and change” President should have accomplished in a year if he had real talent.

      I think you meant “if SHE had real talent.” Because the hope candidate I wanted was a she and she did/does have real talent. See Bronwyn’s first embedded video above.

      Tricia, I agree with you and can also hope people will vote as you suggested; however, I will not count on it as American Idol is still one of the most popular t.v. shows. Americans get their voting practice there.

      • NomNomNom

        “Americans get their voting practice there.”
        LOL
        & that’s the scary irrefutable truth

    • felizarte

      THERE he goes again, trying to place himself on a pedestal at the same heights of that of FDR. He is fixated on history remembering him at the new FDR.

      It is NOT an FDR fettish–more like a god complex as Hillary intimated, Obama uses policy statements as if he were God in Genesis who says, “Let there be light!” and there was light’. “Close GITMO!” and it is ‘closed’.

      Obama’s problem is that he really does not know nearly as much as he made people believe he does. Which is why, even if he surrounds himself with the “best and the brightest” he doesn’t know enough to discriminate among all the ideas or analyses presented to him.

      The situations requiring his decision are coming at him at lightspeed and he only has 24 hours in a day. How in the world can he have time for shooting hoops?

      • Docelder

        even if he surrounds himself with the “best and the brightest”

        That is another point where I disagree. Surrounding himself with academia just puts a lot of people around him who are “book smart” but don’t have the practical experience of having done anything in the real world outside of academia. I would disagree that a Harvard professor who teaches business to students is better suited to advise the President in business matters than somebody with a community college degree who was actually the CEO of a corporation. I am not wholly prejudiced against academia, but we all have known people who are brilliantly book smart, yet at the same time functionally lack fundamental common sense. There needs to be a balance. Right now that balance is skewed toward idolizing academia.

    • Owllwoman

      Stem cells. There won’t be enough money in the healthcare bill to follow through on the research and Obama is not really fond of old people with disease. So what exactly will it benefit to research stem cells when the cure will be too costly to get?

  • starfish

    That “B” was for “bulls___t” plus.

    If I think of it that way, it works for me, since he certainly is an accomplished bulls___ter.

  • Portia Elizabeth

    BO has given us new states – 57 at last count.
    He has given us a new holiday – Cinco de Quatro.
    He’s given us a new definition of revolutionaries – Tea Parties.
    He’s given us a new retirement plan – death panels.
    He’s given us a new definition of hope -gullibility.

    Emily Dickinson said hope is the thing with feathers. Obama has turned hope into the thing with feathers that’s coming home to roost.

    • sowsear

      Portia, you have a clever way with words. I love it.

    • sowsear

      Portia, you have a clever way with words. I love it. May I quote you?

      • Portia Elizabeth

        I’m flattered. Thank you and of course you may.

    • Bronwyn’s Harbor

      Portia, i want to post this later today. It is too good for the comments section alone. WTG.

      • Portia Elizabeth

        Thank you. You’re too kind. I loved the idea of trying to come up with something – anything – BO could legitimately take credit for. There are so many clever people who post here that I’m sure they’ll come up with some brilliant suggestions to add to my own modest ones.

        • Senneth

          He has moved the Great Lakes to Oregon. Since I live there, I’m still trying to find them.

    • I’m a Linda too

      Very good.

  • Diana L. C.

    As a teacher, I used to laugh at those younger teachers who would ask students to grade themselves and then have to struggle with trying not to “hurt feelings” if they had to give a different grade.

    Most of the kids would say they deserved an A for effort–which was ALWAYS a glaring miperception of their real efforts in class. Oprah showed her childishness when she asked that question. (For the life of me, I have NEVER understood why she is so popular with women.)

    Dana Perino’s comments to Gretta were so well stated. Bush had a gem when she worked for him. And Perino was absolutely right about the way O should have answered.

    Gretta always does a great job of presenting important questions and giving information without being strident.

    My younger son, who didn’t have my experience in the primary for Hillary, voted Nader while I voted McCain. His comments were that Oprah is an idiot; he can’t stand her and what she stands for.

    I know why Obama agreed to be interviewd by Oprah. I remember clearly how Oprah’s declaration that he is THE ONE was the time when things really picked up for Obama during the primary–at least for many of the “with it” (in their minds) women I knew. Maybe he thought he could grow his ratings somehow. I think we’re all past that stage.

    As for the left and their fawning love for Obama during the primary and GE, that also in my mind showed their misperception of their own intelligence. I laugh. Even my brother’s Christmas letter showed a “sea change” in his previous love for things Obama and Democrat. I don’t rub it in, though I’m tempted because he made so much fun of me and my opions about Obama then. Poor little lefties have to live and learn like the rest of us.

    I am pretty much at the point of feeling exactly like Osellingbullshit above.

    • sowsear

      Oprah probably asked only the questions that BO wanted her to ask. He never does anything that isn’t scripted-except for the trip to the Olympics committee meeting, and that was probably a misreading from those sent to get the inside scoop.

    • http://www.BullShit.com Osellingbullshit

      THANK!THANK!! I’M not alone.

    • creeper

      He got gay marriage defeated in California at the same time he was being elected, by giving it no support at all. It was his first accomplishment, right out of the gate.

      How I’d love to ask my gay sisters what they think of Obama now. But the wounds in those relationships are still healing and it would be picking at the scab.

      But goddammit, I told you so!

      • Scout

        I feel the same way. Very intelligent women fell for his charade because they wanted to believe that his skin color signified something about what he believes and how he would govern. His record–or shall I say, stunning lack of a record and evidence of shallowness and aversion to hard work–did not matter one whit to them. I don’t bring it up, though, because I think they are still under the influence.

        • creeper

          I can’t even take any satisfaction in being able to scream “I told you so!” The cost to the country for them to learn the lesson was just too high.

          Somehow, “I was wrong” just doesn’t cut it. They were willfully ignorant, refusing to see what was in front of their faces–that their candidate had no record of any sort…anywhere.

          The funny thing is, once they get off the bandwagon they have no excuse for ever having climbed on. They can’t even point to any mitigating circumstances. Their support was blind and they know it but I get the eerie feeling they actually want us to feel sorry for them.

          • trixta

            Actually, their usual and only excuse is that BO was better than Hillary.

            • jwrjr

              Too bad that excuse was/is completely wrong.

          • lorac

            Their support was blind and they know it but I get the eerie feeling they actually want us to feel sorry for them.

            Exactly. Really, there is no excuse. They exhibited an inabilty or unwillingness to use any critical thinking skills. And these blogs mentioned in Bronwyn’s article, which refused to publish questioning comments from fellow democrats, were a part of this. Intelligence is of little use if one doesn’t use or doesn’t have critical thinking skills. There’s not much point in having a “democracy” with more thug tactics and blind allegiance than critical thinking.

          • Elizabeth

            Even McCain said Obama should get “credit” for short-term improvements in the economy so I’m a little surprised these spurned leftists don’t even try to argue a leveling out of economic activity is the first step toward recovery. That a true Depression may have been avoided and the economy will grow, if weakly, for the next year rather than plunge into a serious and long-term decline, and even unemployment will eventually steady and then finally decline a little…etc. etc.

            I don’t necessarily buy it, particularly if his key to slowly stabilizing conditions is the health care bill, but at least the talking points provide the facade of a debate.

  • Diana L. C.

    I had added a comment earlier that didn’t go through. Maybe it will appear later. :-)

    • Bronwyn’s Harbor

      Rescued!

  • http://www.somosrepublicans.com DD

    Yes, the Obamabots will learn when Obama not only hurts himself….but the nation, too. America will be stretched under the Obama administration and we are already seeing signs of it.

    Obama is a legend in his own mind and has tricked people into believing he was some sort of Martin Luther King. Obama is a thug and a loser. He is nothing but a chameleon.

    The Obamabots need to take a trip to Obamaville, Colorado to discover that trickle up poverty doesn’t work. http://www.breitbart.tv/welcome-to-obamaville-sign-marks-co-homeless-tent-city/

    • Diana L. C.

      DD–This is interesting. It’s funny how we here reading the Denver newspaper and watching Denver news stations have not heard about this. The Colorado Springs area is probably the most Republican area of Colorado. It is the home of Focus on the Family and of a big military base.

      Interesting news in Denver, however, is about the upcoming elections. Colorado went ALL BLUE last GE. Current polls show, however, that the Republican candidates for Gove and for Bennet’s appointed seat in the Senate will most likely go Republican.

    • Ferd Berfle

      Yes, the Obamabots will learn when Obama not only hurts himself….but the nation, too.

      Hate to differ but the obamabots will do the same as the bushbots–they’ll blame the adversary for “not giving them the “authority” to really screw things up royally. I have to say that I am somewhat relieved that there is ALWAYS an opposition in this country which can be counted on to at least hold the lock-stepper’s feet to the fire. We’re not screwed–just in for yet another rough ride from the children we allow to run this country. One day the adults (centrists) will wrest the reins of power from the children and send them to their rooms with a sore arse. I am looking forward to that day.

  • Docelder

    Looks like somebody jumped the unicorn. Check out the heartbreak over at HuffPo. Broken hearts with Cheetohs for snacks.

    To use a trendy Tiger Woods analogy, this is the 101th mistress — the time to stop defending and start packing.

    Barack Obama is just another politician; willing to lie on the campaign trail to get elected. Then treat him like any other politician.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/a-rahm-too-far-time-for-o_b_392190.html

    • http://www.syd4.blogspot.com SYD

      Now ain’t that just the saddest thing you ever read?

      Huff-n-Puff is all out of hot air?

    • CentralMass

      Shear panic and pandimonium over there. Some are blaming it all on the “Clintonite” advisors.

      • trixta

        Naturally. In essence, that is Taibbi’s angle in his latest Rolling Stone piece on BO’s sellout to Wall Street. It is President Clinton’s and his old advisers’ fault.

        • Janis

          Of course. They will admit that Obama is a shyster, so they can still tell themselves they were oh-so-wonderful for having beweeved in him.

          If they admit that not only were they punked, but they shoved the real answer to the problem down the stairs … well, there’s ZERO excuse for that.

  • Freedom Fighter

    Here are some of President Obama’s accomplishments:

    Rescued the American economy from the brink of disaster.
    Won the Nobel Peace Prize.
    Became the first African American President.
    Saved or created millions of jobs.
    Banned torture.
    More open and transparent WH.
    Diplomatic engagement with Iran.
    Scrapped the F22 boondoggle.
    Given Americans a sense of hope and renewal.
    In process of replacing CO2 economy with green economy.

    • Docelder

      I thought you were being snarky until I saw who it was. Seriously, are you sure you are not being snarky?

      • sowsear

        Me too, I thought it was snark, until I saw it was FF, the one with his blinders still in place.

    • Portia Elizabeth

      FF– I know it’s the time of year when a childlike innocence and sense of wonder are encouraged and even indulged, but come January you’re going to have to give some serious thought to the possibility that Peter Pan and Tinkerbell aren’t real and, no matter how hard you believe, it’s just another fairy tale.

      • lorac

        No one can be this naive. Unless he’s a 19 year old with a man-crush and no idea of the real world, he HAS to be paid. Seriously.

        • jbjd
          • Portia Elizabeth

            What a great way to nudge them to use their own minds to reach a logical conclusion!

            • jbjd

              PE, I am so glad you wrote this response to my comment. I have been inundated by snarky nasty remarks aimed at not only at the substantive content of this anecdote but also me, personally. I tried hard not to reveal my personal politics. But I knew theirs. And just as I had hoped, they were too focused initially on ‘discovering’ these adults in power might have circumvented the U.S. Constitution to install a favored candidate into office; to realize the implications of that fraud meant, BO might not be a NBC. (But I would bet they reached that conclusion shortly after leaving the room.)

      • trixta

        Hey, FF, you forgot these other Obama accomplishments:

        * Quadrupled the national deficit.

        * Issued in an era of corporate welfare, the likes of which this country has never seen before.

        * Preserved DOMA and DADT.

        * Helped pass the anti-gay Prop 8 in CA.

        * Preserved GWB’s policy on torture and GITMO.

        * Preserved GWB’s funding for Faith-Based organizations.

        * Is beginning a new war in Afghanistan without a clue as to how to proceed or win.

        * Has insulted our closest allies with pettiness and passive aggressive behavior.

        * Has bowed to Kings — but only those of color.

        * Has brought race relations to a new low.

        * Has issued in an era of sexism and misogyny.

      • Senneth

        Ha, ha, Portia. Great comment.

    • NomNomNom

      Rescued Helped push the American economy from over the brink of disaster.
      Won Was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
      Became the first African American American African President.
      Saved or created Lost/ continued to ship overseas millions of jobs.
      Banned Relocated to Bagram torture.
      Not in the least More open and transparent WH.
      Diplomatic engagement Alternate useless posturing and threats just like Bush with Iran.
      Scrapped the F22 boondoggle.
      Given Bot Americans a sense of hope and renewal.
      In process of replacing CO2 economy with green economy continuing present polluting economy and crushing any real hope for a shift to less polluting technologies with a bogus cap and trade system that will fall disproportionately on poorer nations so we can continue looting them.

      but don’t feel bad, you got one right, so I guess this means your perceptiveness is improving.

      • ~~JustMe~~

        FF bulls*** is bulls*** no matter which way you slice it. Swigged down with koolaid is that your Hope & Change?

        • NomNomNom

          :?: it’s certainly not my hope & change

          • Donna Brazile

            That One’s main accomplishment is making rational independent thinking individuals who couldn’t stand Bush contemplate having him back! What a travesty!!!!

            Stop the blinderfest!

            • NomNomNom

              :?:
              jeebus, I am not understanding these responses. I did not say anything positive about BHO.

              • Donna Brazile

                NomNom:

                I’m just adding to your great list! My blinderfest comment is to Freedumb or Andrew on his knees for That One.

                • NomNomNom

                  thx, sorry misunderstood :)

                  • ~~JustMe~~

                    Nom replying to FF = Fraud Fighter opps was that suppose to read Freedom?

                    Well they better enjoy those last days of FREEDOM at this stage it seems all over but the shouting!

                    • NomNomNom

                      thx, sorry misunderstood you also :)
                      lol, I was wondering what I’d said!

          • Scout

            More like hoax and spare change….

            • ~~JustMe~~

              so true and we know where the “Change” got us

              • Docelder

                Yep, a “couch money” economy. Eventually people will have found all the money in the couch cushions, had all the garage sales they can have and sold all their gold jewelry. What then?

    • http://www.sonicninjakitty.wordpress.com Sonic Ninja Kitty

      This economy is not rescued yet.
      http://mises.org/daily/3907

    • Doc99

      Victor Hanson delivers the definitive rebuttal. But he leaves out the abortive photo-op Air Force One lower Manhattan and claiming doctors make $30-50K for amputating a diabetic foot.

    • Arabella Trefoil

      Obama’s accomplishments

      Being born
      Breathing
      Eating with a fork and knife
      Sleeping
      Sweating
      Smoking
      Using the toilet all on his own

      Yes, a marvel among men

      • Janis

        You forgot “Only taking three tries to successfully pick his own nose.”

      • jwrjr

        He has no rival at his ability to read from a teleprompter.

    • cat

      “Rescued the American economy from the brink of disaster.”

      economy is a bigger disaster then when Obama took office, dolt.

      “Won the Nobel Peace Prize.”

      he “won” nothing. he is a wartime president, moron.

      “Became the first African American President.”

      (whoooppeeeee!)

      “Saved or created millions of jobs.”

      has been debunked.

      “Banned torture.”

      really? so why is he still giving speeches, then?

      “More open and transparent WH.”

      Snort! no comment necessary!

      “Diplomatic engagement with Iran.”

      haha! please see SOS HRC’s comments on this subject. She’s clearly not impressed..

      “Scrapped the F22 boondoggle.”

      it was Robert Gates that wanted the F35…

      “Given Americans a sense of hope and renewal.”

      fool, have you seen Obama’s approval ratings?

      “In process of replacing CO2 economy with green economy.”

      “August 11, 2009
      Obama EPA approves another mountaintop removal mine
      The Obama administration late last week quietly approved one of six major mountaintop removal permits that were said to be undergoing close scrutiny by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.”

      sucka.

      • jwrjr

        The only “Hope and Change”(tm) that Obama has brought is that loyal Americans Hope that America will still be around in recognizable form after Obama has Changed it.

      • lorac

        “Banned torture.”

        really? so why is he still giving speeches, then?

        ROFL Well, at least he seems to not be torturing us EVERY DAY now.

    • Wisewoman

      FF. I’m tired of Obamabots giving Obama credit for stopping the economic meltdown. IF YOU HAD A TRUTHFUL BONE IN YOUR BODY YOU WOULD GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT BELONGS: TO GEOGE W. BUSH. He is the one who with dems and Repubs help passed the TARP program and dispensed about one half (about 350 billion) of the Tarp money before he left office. This is what stopped the financial bank meltdown. The truth of the matter is that althouh I am not a Bush fan he had saved the day before he left office.

      • Wisewoman

        Forgot to add to my previous comment that during the time the work was being done to pass the Tarp Mc Cain was in Washington trying to get something passed. Obama stayed on the campaign trail and told them to CALL HIM ON HIS CELL PHONE IF THEY NEEDED HIM. How can this man now claim credit for something he had no significant part in helping to put together. As usual he and hsi supporters are delusional.

    • http://! stodgie

      ff stop wasting our time with your prattling. go read up and wise up. your comments are really pathetic.

  • Obamastolemycounty

    That is my favorite Hillary Video from the Primaries! I did love her concession speech and her DNC “keep going” speech, but they were to sad! At least “the skies will open” video always make me chuckle a little! If I let it sink in though I get angry so i just listen on the surface.

    Is it just me or did Oprah looked like she’d lost that loving feeling? The glazed over eyes seemed to be gone and it was like she had to force the corners of her mouth into a meek smile. Oh, and when he gave himself a B+, I think she looked both surprised and annoyed and like an Oh, sh-t Moment. She knew that would be all people would focus on for her and Barack Who’s Vain Obama from now until he is out of office-dumb and dumber!

    • AF catfish

      My favorite Hillary video too. It never gets old.

      And the way the crowd at first doesn’t know how to react, doesn’t know where she’s going with her speech, by the end they’re going nuts, whistling cheering her on. (Compare that to the Obama crowds not connected to anything he is saying.)

      • Janis

        Naah, my fave is when she told Tim Russert, “Well, he’s not standing up here right now,” when he told her that her husband disagreed with her. Asshole talked to her like he was scolding a wayward child. Glad he’s dead.

    • lorac

      I don’t watch Oprah, and the only part of this show I saw was this clip, but I definitely had the feeling she wasn’t “into it”. Her face looked like she didn’t agree with his grade – it was too high. But I know she’s a big Obama lover, so maybe she showed the love in the rest of the show. But during this clip, her face and eyes certainly didn’t seem to be supporting or encouraging what he was saying.

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  • I’m a Linda too

    Thank you. My other fav “prescient” statement, video, on Obama,

    The 3AM call. Man has that been proven true!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yr7odFUARg

  • andrew

    If Obamamania is over, it’s possible people may wake up and realize that the 2008 election is also over, and that those living in the present have been focused on other important matters for almost a year now.

    • Docelder

      I read it on a sign somewhere… “you break it you buy it”. The economy belongs to Obama now.

      • andrew

        Yep. You walk in the china store, see an expensive plate broken on the floor, look up and see the sign, and then a clerk rushes over and hands you a bill for the damages and tells you he’s already called the police…

    • Diana L. C.

      Sounds to me that you just want all of us to forget how our country was stolen out from under us. Maybe you had a part in that theft and don’t want to feel so embarrassed by having it remembered.

      That’s a hard thing to forget. And….if you would ever care to admit it, this blog continues to follow current news all the time and discuss those current issues.

      • andrew

        I believe you’re confused about the true nature of the Great American Theft, when it occurred, and who did it. Pension plans and pension funds, evaporated; millions of American manufacturing and service jobs gone overseas; regular Americans’ investments halved, or worse; affordable health care gone; the prospect of affordable college educations for the kids, gone; military preparedness, gone…

        In whose hands is the bulk of the great wealth of the nation, after over a decade of republican rule? Those committing theft are often those holding the loot. Where did the money go?

        • Docelder

          No, this didn’t just happen with Obama, Bush, or Clinton. Obama isn’t necessarily more evil than Bush. He is the same evil as Bush. Most of what you said I would agree with, except that it is both republicans and democrats that are the problem. They are the same. We have been divided against one another by the parties, when we are really all that each other has. If we won’t be here for each other as individuals and as neighbors, then we will lose. This has got me down and spoiled my outlook, but we can do this. This is our country dammit.

          • andrew

            Well Sir, I agree with almost everything you just said. The difference being that I’m not so negative about what Obama might accomplish. Time will tell me, if I’m wrong.

            • Ferd Berfle

              Time will tell me, if I’m wrong.

              Had you any time on this planet (experience), you would have already had your answer about That One. Try to limit your future voting to American Idol (or Idle, in the case of That One) so as not to further weaken the nation. That you can even post such dreck as that to which I am replying speaks volumes about you and your terminal naivete.

          • NomNomNom

            “He is the same evil as Bush.”
            precisely. he’s owned by the same cabal.
            the greater problem is no one likes to see we are now 香蕉共和国.
            how can we organize when we will not recognize?

            • TeakWoodKite

              But NomNomNom, 香蕉共和国 would be kind!

              Then there is always 不是在我家后院综合征.

              :)

              • oowawa

                And I thought I was being clever when I could figure out someone’s Pig Latin . . .

                What an erudite crew
                We have on N-Q!

                • TeakWoodKite

                  I am so happy with my Universal BO translator.
                  It even works with the most obscure OBot dialects although the idiom is not always the best rendition.

                  希望和变化 ? HUH?

                • TeakWoodKite

                  I am so happy with my Universal BO translator.
                  It even works with the most obscure OBot dialects, although the idiom is not always the best rendition.

                  希望和变化 ? HUH?

                  • Docelder

                    We are all going to have so much fun together 在劳教营.

                    • NomNomNom

                      我听到这将是在西弗吉尼亚州 （这是一个长期运行在Savage Politics笑话）

                    • ~~JustMe~~

                      OMG LOL but it’s one scary thought but hey who was the one who said we should all be able to speak another language?

                      希望和变化

                      Hope and change anyone?

              • NomNomNom

                lol, they’re standing in it.

        • lorac

          I believe you’re confused about the true nature of the Great American Theft

          Oh, no, you don’t. You’re not going to distract any of us or make us “forget” the theft in the primaries. Never. I’m STILL talking about it with people who didn’t pay much attention during the election. It was wrong, it was undemocratic, and we will never forget or stop talking about it.

          And it’s not the “past” – if we stop talking about it, it can happen again. For heaven’s sake, many, many of us left the party because of it. It was NOT a “little thing” and it is NOT something to forget. It violated the very principles our party and our country were founded on.

          • Portia Elizabeth

            Well said!!

          • Senneth

            Yes indeedy, lorac, to even imply we should forget the fraud is idiotic. I will never forget the fraud and the name calling, the misogyny, the sexism, the homophobia, the ageism, and the racism/race baiting. Nor will I forget the intimidation, the threats, nor the harassment. It was an eye opening election year for many of us, one none of us should forget.

            • b mathews

              more important is that obama needs to remember he stole the election. he did NOT win it fair and square and hopefully the history books will reflect that. same goes for the Nobel Peace Prize. another thing he did not earn or deserve. the man has no shame or humility but i think most of us here already know that.

        • Diana L. C.

          Much of it, I believe, went into the campaign chest for Obama. Obama lost me at his mention of wanting to be like Ronnie Raygun.

          Give me a break–when you can’t believe anything you were taught in school about the ideals of our Country’s founding fathers because those ideals have been trampled on, it does not matter to me about money. I am not a socialist, communist materialist. I come from a long line of people who left their homes to move to other countries, left their possessions, etc., to try to find a place to live according to their ideals. I am afraid this country will be another place people will leave because they can’t stand the way it’s run. That is a worse type of theft for me than the theft of my money.

        • Ferd Berfle

          Where did the money go?

          Ask Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, troll.

          • Ferd Berfle

            Oh… and Joe Biden.

            Is that all you have, Andy?

          • andrew

            I was referring to that distribution of wealth statistic. 95% of the nation’s wealth already in the hands of 5% of the population while the trend continues might not be exactly what the founding fathers had in mind. At the very least, I’m sure what that’s likely to lead to isn’t what they had in mind.

            • Ferd Berfle

              The founders of this country weren’t concerned with the accumulation of wealth per se but the institution of democracy, which, by the way, can include some getting obscenely wealthy. I don’t envy the wealthy so long as they contribute to the protection of the ideals enshrined in the Constitution. You duds on the obamabottrain don’t value those ideals at all, so refrain from appealing to our founders.

              • andrew

                Enormous wealth has enormous power. These days, enormous wealth plays democracy like a piano and calls out the tunes. Wealth can and does pervert the system.

                • jwrjr

                  “Enormous wealth” has certainly bought and paid for Obama. Thirty pieces of Silver, perhaps?

                  • andrew

                    The significance of 5% of the population owning 95% of the total wealth just doesn’t seem to compute with a lot of people. Maybe it would help to state the situation in a different way:

                    The needs of 95% of the 304,059,724 people in the nation must be met using only 5% of the nation’s total wealth.

                    Why would higher tax rates on the wealthiest for the sake of balancing the federal budget be immoral or un-American?

                    • jwrjr

                      Before Obama 5% population = 95% wealth
                      After Obama 5% population = 99% wealth

                      This is an improvement?

    • Arabella Trefoil

      andrew is over.

      • lorac

        Andrew is in love.

        Come out, come out, Andrew! Gay men are welcome here.

        • andrew

          Presumably that’s intended as an insult, which I suppose reveals more about your own attitudes than mine.

          • Arabella Trefoil

            The fact that you think the comment was an insult actually says a lot about YOU, andrew.

            In my “Style and Trends Section” for 2009, I have put you on the “Out” list. That should hurt your feelings a lot more than what lorac said.

          • Janis

            Just like your pet candidate Barky’s refusing to have his picture taken with Gavin Newsom, and having McClurkin on his side.

            You pretend to give a shit for insults directed to gay men NOW? Little late.

    • jbjd

      No; until the factors in place that enabled this travesty, are exposed and eliminated then, one stolen election becomes another stolen election…

  • Margaret

    I was there in Rhode Island that day, it was a beautiful moment!

  • Docelder

    Well, there are few options left for this administration. Play the card… again. Or, we could have a crisis… again. It can’t be long now.

  • Peggy Sue

    There’s a certain desperation in the voices of the remaining Obamatrons, who would have us believe the continuing Obama mantra: the self-imposed B+ grade for non-performance, the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to a War President, the present state of the healthcare [deform]legislation, the sham and disgrace that is known as Cap&Trade, the economy that continues to tank despite all the happy chatter, the tough new financial regulations filled with loopholes, the brand new, pork-infested $1.1 trillion spending bill and . . . the list goes on and on.

    It’s the “Awakening” that scares the bejesus out of the Obamatrons. It’s the light in the room.

    I predicted last year that the day would come where few would admit voting for The One. I think we’re approaching that threshold.

    And yes, last year’s election is over. And now we have the rubble to contend with. The last thing we needed after the destruction of GW&Co. was a pretender. But that’s what we got.

    • Docelder

      Lieberman will win “Louisiana silver” from today’s senate cake walk and we will have pushed Obamacare into reconciliation where anything can also be had for a price. Bots will rejoice that the magic is back. It will be true, provided the magic is graft, corruption and thug politics. Meanwhile, now health insurance will also be a vehicle for social engineering. Whatever.

  • Docelder

    Bill would give undocumented legal status.

    A coalition of Democrats say fixing the immigration system can help American workers as well.

    Doesn’t make any sense to me, why it is better for illegal immigrants to have jobs here than for the crap to just be made in China to begin with… but whatever. I guess the Chinese are too far away to bus around for the caucuses.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CJU2V01&show_article=1

    • tek

      Docelder: Makes no sense unless by “Americans” they mean all the illegals they’re going to amnesty and grant citizenship to.

      Just returned from Chicago. There are more illegal hispanics in that city than in San Diego and Orlando! And I’ll tell you something–they aren’t going back to Mexico. The Powers That Be have assured them they can stay.

      • Docelder

        The part of the bill I read was something to the effect that the illegals would pay a $500 fee and get an automatic 6 year green card which would become a permanent citizenship at the end of the time. No two ways about it, these “new” democrats hate America.

        • tek

          Docelder: True, that.

  • babawankenobe

    Of course he gave himself a B+. He hasn’t completely bankrupted the U.S.A. yet! Once he has, then he will give himself an A+.

  • AF catfish

    OMG Perino pointed out this passage in Obama’s 60 Minutes interview, most of us totally missed it:

    “Seven Presidents have tried to reform a health care system that everyone acknowledges is broken,” he continued “Seven Presidents have failed up until this point. We are now that close to having a bill that does all the things that I said and most experts said needed to be done when we started this process.”

    He has no sense that he “stands on the shoulders” of those who came before him. Or if he does, he doesn’t mention it much. In his Nobel speech he refuted Dr. King’s speech.

    • oowawa

      Seven Presidents have tried . . . Seven Presidents have failed

      It’s almost biblical: And Lo! I did behold an Eighth President, mounted upon a mighty white steed from whose forehead protruded a long straight horn, and fire did proceed from its nostrils, and Hope! and Change! were the words graven in great radiant letters upon his mighty sword. And the Eighth President, awesome to look upon, did drive the toadlike demons of Status Quo into the Lake of Fire, and there went up a great rejoicing throughout the entire land . . .

      • AF catfish

        Great catch oowawa! Surely he was already composing his healthcare victory speech in his head.

        But wait! (sound of turntable needle scratching to a halt) – what kind of president would insert “seven [American] presidents have failed” but I succeeded? Inappropriate!

        • oowawa

          Hey catfish–about 4 hours ago, Thee One uttered these noble words (speaking of OWholeHealth):

          it’s clear that we are on the precipice of an achievement that’s eluded Congresses and presidents for generations

          Funny! I always thought it was a bad thing to be standing on the edge of a precipice about to fall off . . .

          • Peggy Sue

            Hahaha, oowawa. I thought the same thing. What a strange way to phrase The One’s “crowning achievement.” We’re standing on the precipice???

            Maybe that was a truth blip on his lips. Or a TOTUS skip.

            What an utter mess!

          • Ferd Berfle

            Hey catfish–about 4 hours ago, Thee One uttered these noble words (speaking of OWholeHealth):

            it’s clear that we are on the precipice of an achievement that’s eluded Congresses and presidents for generations

            Oh, he must mean the formerly unknown 8th-Circle-of-Hell with its consummation of the joining of the hard right and hard left with BOTUS as the master of ceremonies, the bride, and the groom.

            Yep–that would be it, for sure.

            • oowawa

              Well Peggy Sue and Ferd, it was indeed an unfortunate but informative choice of words: “on the precipice of an achievement”–Huh?

              The confluence of BOTOX insanity and XMAS solemnity have been making me very blue lately. It’s all so depressing! I feel like I’m on the precipice of an achievement. This coming year is not going to be easy.

              • Docelder

                It almost sounds something like he has been reading L. Ron Hubbard. Maybe the only thing worse than finding out he was Muslim would be to find out somebody is tinkering under the hood of his brain.

                • oowawa

                  Ah, I knew that being “on the precipice of an achievement” reminded me of something:

                  I find myself on the verge of a usual mistake

                  –Walt Whitman

                  • trixta

                    Perhaps BO really meant “on the precipice of utter calamity and misery….”

                • NomNomNom

                  lol, maybe the 7 + 1 was really a cryptic masonic illuminati message to his reptilian overlords.
                  someone should be watching David Icke. :shock:

          • cf

            How long ago do you think he wrote his Health Care Victory speech? Surely he’s been practicing in the mirror … holding it in with all his might, now he can’t help it … it’s slipping out in sound bytes

            “Seven presidents have tried … and seven presidents have FAILED!” (Until me!)

            “We stand on the precipice of an achievement that has ELUDED Congresses and presidents for generations.” (Until me!)

            • ~~JustMe~~

              唉神救我们

              • NomNomNom

                You don’t think he is the One???? (kidding)
                他是自恋的顶峰

      • Ani

        His arrogance and narcissism is boundless. He truly does not realize or care that he is standing on the shoulders of those who came before him, as AF catfish pointed out. Unbelievable.

        This me me me attitude and bragadoccio is repellant to anyone. How can he not see that?

        • creeper

          Ani, that “me, me, me” attitude is what got him elected in the first place. Almost all of the “me, now!” generation voted for him.

          We have raised a bunch of spoiled kids who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag. Our educational system teaches them that each one is the most special person in the world and you can get a gold star just by showing up.

          Is it any wonder they drank the kool-aid? What Obama was selling was simply an extension of what they’ve been taught all their lives…that they should have everything they want by simply by virtue of their existence. Obama reinforced that sense of entitlement in every word he spoke.

          The fact that every word he spoke was a bald-faced lie is just now beginning to sink in. I think there’s going to be he!! to pay when they all figure it out because these people do not like to be told, “No”.

          • bob

            Hey Creeper I enjoyed your comment—– Hey you know every little brat gets a trophy—-Everyone that competes to win is a bad sportsman— Everybody must play

    • oowawa

      oooops–Almighty Spam Filter blasted my comment. This always happens when I try to imitate the Holy Scriptures . . .

  • wbboei

    Freedom Fighter: do you believe these things or are you paid by the Obama machine to say them?

    If the former then you need to examine the facts. If the latter then fine. As the Mafia used to say everybodys gotta eat.

    But don’t try to bamboozle us with this propaganda, please. Lets take your analysis point by point and see if it can withstand scrutiny.

    1. First, you claim he rescued the American economy from the brink of disaster?

    Question: the bank bailout was passed before he became President. That saved the system from an immediate collapse, but how can he take credit for it? He has tripled our deficit and mortagaged our future. By what sophistry of reason can you claim that he has rescued he economy? The proper word for it is tanked. The debt overhang will imperil future budgets, and he proceeds as if he as playing with monopoly money.

    2. Second, you claim he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Question: how could he have “won” the Nobel Prize when it turns out he was selected 10 days into his presidency. Then as now he had accomplished nada. This was a grand gesture by western european elites to coronate a Post American President, with a marked proclivity to trash his country on foreign soil. Soros was instrumental in this. Saturday Night Live provided the final verdict on this ridiculous charade. Jack Squat lives!

    3. You say he became the first African American President.

    Question: is that what he is? The NAACP has real doubts about this. They complained he did not have the civil rights experience, whereas Hillary had a proven track record of supporting the African American community. Then Obamas godfather Soros made a huge contribution to their organization. Shortly thereafter, Julian Bond et al embraced him. Meanwhile Jack Wheeler has done a geneological study and concluded that Obama is decendent from Arab slave traders. If this is true then where is the victory?

    Saved or created millions of jobs.
    Banned torture.

    3. More open and transparent WH.

    Question: how open and transparent was he when he promised to the American People in the primary that he would chase the lobbyists out of Washington and then met secretly with big health care lobbyists and cut sweetheart deals adverse to the interests of the American People. The only time he believes in transparency is when he wants to politicize something Bush did, when it should be dealt with if at all in a private forum.

    4. Fourth, you claim he save or created millions of jobs.

    Question: do you believe the stimulus plan has saved or created millions of jobs? Do you? If so then where are they. The few that have been added have come at enormous cost. And when media outlets have tried to find those millions of jobs the exercise has been comparable to the William James hypothetical of a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isnt there. Unemployment has gone form below 8% to over 10% since he took office. Moeover he has created an environment uncongenial to business growth as Larry Doyle has argues persuasively on this blog.

    5. Fifth, you argue that he has achieved diplomatic engagement with Iran.

    Question: do you not understand the game that is being played here by Iran and Russia? Perhaps not. Iran has been buying time and while Obama dithers they are building more nuclear facilities which threaten Israel. The mullahs are no longer running Iran and it has morphed into an aggressive military state. When the student rebellion occurred Obama would not support it. All they asked for was a showing of support, but Obama was more focused on dealing with the regime. Hillary wanted him to take a position on this but it was no use. When it was too late he made a token speech. By then the basijs had quashed the rebellion.

    6. You claim he has given Americans a sense of renewal?

    Question: are you serious? Here is what happened. Many people were dissatisfied with the Bush Presidency and felt we were at a dead end. I felt that way myself, wrote a chapter about it in a book I was writing on leadership, resigned from the Republican Party, and worked as a campaign volunteer for Hillary in four states. But we all saw others who were desperate and naive enough believe in a man with no track record who was and will always be a composite of Rezko and Wright his two mentors. Big Media hated Hillary and became an extension of the campaign. People engaged in magic thinking and now they are waking up. No he has not given America a sense of renewal. He has given them a sense of betrayal as he compromises their interests on multiple fronts.

    • lorac

      wbboie – he is paid to keep posting shallow platitudes, in the same vein as his boss. He isn’t paid to be able to discuss the issues.

    • jbjd

      Nice summation. But people like FF seldom seem swayed by facts and logic.

  • mountainaires

    Howard Dean and Even Markos Moulitsas are starting to realize what a disaster this administration is–in the guise of the Senate Health Care Bill–which both Deans–Howard and the Dean of DailyKos–say just “KILL THE BILL.”

    Here we freakin’ are, nearly a YEAR after his inaugural, and he’s accomplished ONE THING:: TO DESTROY HIS OWN HEALTH CARE REFORM.

    He gives himself a B+ for that?!? And, blames everyone else in the process?!

    What a waste of an election; what a disaster as a president.

    I hope the Democrats get slaughtered–metaphorically speaking–in November ’10.

    And, we now have a new third party, well, its a new FORMER political party, the Modern Whig Party.

    http://www.modernwhig.org/

    • Ginger Snaps Back

      Mountainaires, we should be at least, hopefully, getting ready for a celebration by the end of the week.

      The Copenhagen Climate Conference has stalled! Africa walked out when they asked for as much as 5% of the U.S.’s GNP and we did not open our pocket-book. China and the U.S. are at each other’s throats. Soros is saddened and Al Gore has been shown to be the two-faced pseudo-intellectual he is, as he lied and was caught by the AP.

      We have hope. Yes, we do.

      Hopefully, we will wake up one November morning to find the Republicans have taken back the senate, and -with luck- the house.

      I hate to admit it, the new “third” party will most likely take shape. There’s no way around it. I do not know if it will be the Whigs or not, but a third party has been in the works for a while. There are too many social liberals and moderates/ fiscal conservatives that can’t fit in anywhere else.

    • Docelder

      Whig sounds fine to me. I have turned mostly libertarian in my views over the past year, but the libertarian party has too much baggage. I hope these “new” democrats never have the power to again jeopardize the republic. Liberal, I can empathize with, progressive, I can also see but this “new” democrat slash and burn, destroy the republic in order to save it… I don’t get that at all.

    • AF catfish

      “He gives himself a B+ for that?!?”

      No mountanaires – he gives himself a premature A-minus for passing healthcare “reform.” Notice how he can barely suppress a smile when he describes what will “tip me into A-minus territory” shortly before mentioning 10% unemployment.

      (NPD illustration of the day: a key symptom/effect of NPD is shamelessness! These people never learned to properly modulate their shame during youth. On the rare occasions they let shame in, it is so overwhelming their ego defenses will quickly expunge said shame by attaching it to someone nearby.)

  • Ferd Berfle

    Will voters ever learn to vote with their minds and not their hearts? Will they ever realize that the words in a speech are just words, and not any indication whatsoever that the promises can be kept or that the orator has the requisite abilities and experience to make such promises real?

    And this isn’t the first time. I asked the same question in 2000 and again in 2004 (though in retrospect, both party’s candidates were a wash in terms of competence). I suspect this won’t change for the foreseeable future. The electorate doesn’t want the truth but a pretty picture that they can hang on their wall.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Explaining why he wouldn’t give himself top marks, the president said his administration had “inherited the biggest set of challenges of any president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt” which they were still working on. …

    This is the height of self-serving hyperbole. I suppose there were zero (0) challenges which match up to That One’s definition.

    Well, I can name at least one–Kennedy’s challenge to the American public to fund the space race and beat the Soviet Union to the Moon. It was extremely important and provided focus for a nation engaged in a long-term adversarial relationship with another power of ostensibly equal power. I remember the can-do attitude and the willingness of the public to embark on it. It was a call to action that was heeded and transcended political barriers. IMO, that was Kennedy’s real achievement.

    We seem to have lost the can-do spirit and replaced it with the you-can-pay-for-it-so-I-don’t-have-to spirit. This includes neocons and obamabots. You’re all part and parcel of the problem. Frankly, the last nine years of fear, consisting of bad, old terrorists and healthcare problems that will “kill us all off” are bullshit designed to scare a once resourceful American public into an unthinking herd.

  • Docelder

    Barry, Harry and Al have just about killed Las Vegas tourism. Are we sure Barry isn’t a mole for the far right? He seems to be doing their handiwork. Well, it is change.

    The Sahara closed two of its three hotel towers for the winter season because of low demand

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/Sahara-closes-two-hotel-towers-due-to-low-demand-79308932.html

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  • http://! stodgie

    we can replace all of the house and 1/3 of the senate in 2010 if we work for it.

    • creeper

      Here’s one person who will be working her (_!_) off to get rid of big spender Bruce Braley. There was my mistake…working to get him elected in the first place. It won’t happen again. At least it taught me a lesson and by the time Obama ran I had it figured out.

      While I’m at it, I may go to work on Tom Harkin. It’ll depend on how he votes on health care deform.

      • lorac

        creeper, I may be mixing people up, but are you family, in Iowa? Do you live near I.C., or elsewhere in the state?

        (former hawkeye here!)

        • creeper

          Yes, lorac, I am in Iowa…as far east as you can go and not wind up in the Mississippi River. I’m very familiar with Iowa City. Most of a lifetime ago I attended the U of I.

          Have you ever thought of coming back home?

  • kenoshamarge

    Smart people like BTD who say things like “pols are pols” as some kind of excuse for the misbehavior of politicians are a big part of the problem we have with our system at this point in time.

    When did it become all right for politicians to lie to us? Now it’s just called a flip-flop or a campaign promise not fulfilled.

    Reasoning adults should take a look at what these clowns are promising and decide if the promises are at all reasonable or even possible. If not, they’re lying to ya and shouldn’t get your vote. Most of the time you’ll have to decide which liar is lying the most or who is telling the biggest lie and then vote for the least lying hypocrite. Some choice.

    We will never get an honest/competent/decent/representative government so long as we make “heroes” or “Sheroes” out of some damn politician. I’m completely non-partisan, I hate both parties and I trust none of the lying buzzards.

    Some day we may get some honest politicians in office again. We even have a few scattered here and there who mostly just go along to get along. But so long as we excuse bad behavior as just “pols being pols” we are enabling the very bad behavior, the lies, the sellouts and the corruption we claim to abhor.

    • trixta

      Amen to that, KenoshaM!

    • Janis

      “Reasoning adults …”

      Find one, though. There’s the rub.

  • steve1

    Mrs. SOS, soon to become the 1st woman president! Hillary, 2012!

    • lorac

      If I ever win tickets to go meet Hillary, Steve, I’m taking you with me! You’re one heck of a supporter!

  • ANonOMouse

    Hey, Don’t forget to give him Credit for his HealthCare Bill which he has renamed and is now called the:

    “Buy your Medical Insurance or Go To Jail You Dumb Fucking Peons – Reform Act of 2009″.

    • Docelder

      Everything is social engineering moving toward that great Utopia where we all wear the same color of government issued plastic pants, and we all eat the same government issued rice from our government contracted union made rice bowls. It will be so much easier to nanny us that way, once we are all the same. Just like a giant herd of cattle carrying the same U.S. brand.

      • NomNomNom

        the supervisors will get vat meat.

  • glennmcgahee

    Obama is not a failure at all. He’s accomplished everything the Republicans could have hoped for. He singlehandedly is responsible for the resurgence of the party that should have been out of power for at least the next decade. As it stands now, we can all look forward to a sweep of the mid-term elections by the right and continuation of abuses of power started under Bush/Cheney. thought of investigation of those abuses will then be disappeared forever. All because Obama chose to look forward instead of analyzing the past. He never learned that history repeats itself.

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    well I just met an obama nut licker last night. a ‘journalist’ from Austria. I did a real estate interview for her website. Anyway, she is based out of DC becuase as she said in a whisper, she is in DC because of obama. I told her I was a Hillary supporter at one time and I strongly support equal rights. She said, she had not evolved to that point yet, LOL…. She had no frickin clue about our political system, except how wonderfual obama was and how ‘storng’ his wife was. She also thought harry reid was compassionate. And how congress was keeping obama from doing his job.

    Oh boy…………. I schooled her but it did not matter, she is romantically involved in her mind with the jerkoff and quite frankly I’m just blown away everytime I talk to an obot.

    It a depressing experience.

  • wbboei

    I think it is a fond but unrealistic notion that people will learn to look below the surface and evaluate the candidate accordingly. Nobody ever went broke–or lost an election by underestimating the intelligence of the American People. We are speaking here of group behavior and groups are easily manipulated by greed on the one hand and fear on the other. Typically, voters are not value investors. The public needs to be accurate information and that is the role of the press. To say that they failed to live up to their responsibility understates the nature of the problem. The people who run big media have betrayed the American People. They destroyed anyone who stood in his path. They engaged in censorship, character assassinaion, stalking behavior and prevaracation to gift the election to Obama. And now that he has turned out to be the very thing we knew he was all along they claim the problem was him–bait and switch they say. The evidence was there all along and they censored it. Look at an outfit like NBC and its cable affiliate MSNBC. They need to be eliminated root and branch. Market forces are doing it, but not fast enough. No wonder these people have bodyguards. Its all one way communication and they do not allow honest rebuttal or feedback. Look at CNN. Prior to the primary, they retained marketing strategists to come up with negative words like polarizing, dishonest etc to describe Hillary. and had their talking heads repeat those words night after night to embed them into the public sub conscious–just as they did before with the words weapons of mass destruction. Schlockmeisters like Schuster at msnbc, the malignant dwarf mitchell at nbc did this as a matter of course But it even infected the thinking of more sober voices like Toobin and Gerghen. The people they selected for their panels were Hillary haters with rare exceptions. The public responded like Pavolovs dog to the nightly bombardment of this from big media. This is why I say if we value our democracy then their influence must be eliminated root and branch. Next to Obama and the people behind him, these big media screeds are the greatest threat to our future. The responsibility for what he does to ruin this country falls on their shoulders. But for them, he would not be where he is today.

    • bob

      Why did they hate Hillary so much? Why Obama?

  • wbboei

    Larry, I have no idea what is the matter with your site, but during the last two days everything I try to say gets trapped in the spam filter. You may want to take a look at it and see what is happening.

  • wbboei

    Tex-Mex: it is depressing alright. But what you are seeing is the process of natural selection. In the state of nature people who are that blind and stupid would wander into a sabre tooth tiger den and the gene pool would be improved. In civilization they nor only survive but trouble the living stream as Yeats put it:

    Hearts with one purpose alone
    Through summer and winter seem
    Enchanted to a stone
    To trouble the living stream

    (Easter 1916)

  • wbboei

    From time to time I have this fantasy that at some point the thinking component of the left and the thinking component of the right, who care about the future of this country will enter into some form of political alliance to fight the influence of Soros and the people he represents. But then I listen to people like Jane Hampster at Firedog Lake and realize that this is impossible. There is no rationality in that group. Same goes for Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone. Once upon a time, he used his column to destroy the reputation of a friend of mine though libelous statements, and I think of that incident and cannot take his Obama we hardly knew ye statements at face value. The hard left cannot be trusted. We may agree with them on certain issues, but that is where it stops.

    • jbjd

      wbboei, just want to let you know, even without your personal knowledge of the character of MT’s written narrative; I discount everything he says because of his conduct – this includes televised appearances as well as written articles – toward HRC during the primaries. (Sorry about your friend.)

  • A

    A correction to stop a mis-conception: Jeralyn at TalkLeft was not an Obama supporter during the primaries, but she toed the party line during the generals.

    • ANonOMouse

      Same difference!!!

    • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

      The only misconception I have is that those people (the ones for Hillary that jumped on the Obamamania bandwagon) are even dumber than Obamabots. I would have said dumber than rocks but I don’t want to disparage the geological record.

  • Sassy

    A single, significant accomplishment?
    To date, his legacy will match or surpass Hoover!

  • beyond_words

    The last thing we needed after the destruction of GW&Co. was a pretender. But that’s what we got.

    He’s also a dangerous appeaser imo. I read today he’s written a “letter” of direct contact to crazy Kim “Jun-Kill” of North Korea. Why, to be friends?

    Look at 12 months of ” diplomatic negotiations” with Iran. They’re still thumbing their noses at the Uranium enrichment “deal” and today successfully test launched a medium range warhead capable missile.
    Yea…they’re really going to listen to diplomacy when it comes to their sovereignty in their eyes. They wont, and most of the world knows this.
    They and all the other dictatorships also know the time is ripe to push the envelope with such a weakling appeaser at the helm of the US of A.

    One doesn’t have to go far back in history (1930′s) to see what appeasement does in the face of dictators.

  • bob

    The Democratic Party is dead—- Rest in peace– The only consolation for those of us who strove for racially equality is the black guy won— Our work is complete—- No more- Remember how Hillary was trashed—- The best candidate did not get the job–This country has no morality– Our leaders are totally corrupt The next time some asshole brings up the Rule of law I believe everyone should collectively puke. Our country is looking more and more like the Roman empire—Is there anything left in America that is sacred?

    • Peggy Sue

      “Is there anything left in America that is sacred?”

      Well, if there is Bob, it doesn’t reside in Washington, DC. I’d check the hinterlands. Think there’s still something of the sacred hiding out, holding on for dear life. Call them “keepers of the light.” Call them American citizens.

      • Onofre’s arm

        Call her Governor Palin.

  • steve1

    Mr. President’s fall in the polls hopefully demostrate that Americans are waking up to the myth created by corporate controlled MSM! What person in their right mind would spend over 1.7 million dollars to their lawyers in order to prevent the rlease of their Birth Certificate???? For what reason?? Well, Barry Soetoro, AKA, Barack Obama has just done that? Who in their right mind would spend such an amount??

  • creeper

    Ooookay…would one of our admins lift the lid on the spam jar and see if one of my comments is in there, please? Thanks much.

  • Concerned

    Damn. Watching that clip of Hillary brought a tear to me eye. I can still remember her defiantly presenting her case in the pouring rain. *sigh*

    Imagine what we could have had. Everytime I think about that and how we were CHEATED by the DNC, my blood boils.

    Bah…if they’ve any shred of decency left, they should show true remorse by working towards his impeachment or a vote of no confidence.

    Anything else is just more talk from those airbags.

  • http://www.BullShit.com Osellingbullshit

    Washington Post — Pelosi says rallying votes for troop surge in Afghanistan will be Obama’s job

    Nancy Pelosi is going to Copenhagen content that she has done her part for her party, having forced her members to swallow politically unpalatable health and carbon legislation. Those risks have been answered by bumbling in the Senate and inconstancy by President Obama.

    Writer Paul Kane says that looking into 2010, Pelosi gives a preview of a less-cooperative relationship with Obama.

    “President Obama will have to argue his own case to House Democrats as he seeks support for a planned surge of 30,000 troops into Afghanistan, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday, adding that she is finished asking her colleagues to back wars that they do not support.

    ‘The president’s going to have to make his case,’
    Pelosi told reporters.”

    Sounds like the Speaker of the House is also giving up on Obama. huh huh huh…….. karma is a bitch.

    • Docelder

      she is finished asking her colleagues to back wars that they do not support

      Trying to establish that she is not Bush not Obama. Karma yes. The Chicago boys aren’t going to be happy with this betrayal. Could she be replaced maybe?

  • Docelder

    Obama now says if we don’t pass health care, the nation will go bankrupt. I guess spending all that money we didn’t have on field mice quality of life will have nothing to do with that. Now, if we don’t pass his bill… he still wins as he breaks us and blames the republicans for it. Nice. Those Chicago boys… what will they think of next? I know… a crisis.

    President Obama told ABC News’ Charles Gibson in an interview that if Congress does not pass health care legislation that will bring down costs, the federal government “will go bankrupt.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/12/president-obama-federal-government-will-go-bankrupt-if-health-care-costs-are-not-reigned-in.html

  • Chloe

    I find myself numb most of the time. I just can’t believe this is the same Country I was so proud of when I first started loving government classes in school. I loved the first time I voted and remember how much I studied before I cast a vote. Today it’s an American Idol search. I keep waiting for people to wake up and get it. I really believed after Bush that people would be able to see through the B.S. but I was so wrong. This man is a man/ghost that I still do not get. He scares me more than bush did. I don’t say that lightly. I loved Bill Clinton. I feel that he was our best president and HRC would have given him a run for that honor if the election wasn’t stolen from her. I still can’t get over that he gave a speech and some how that got him in the White House. God I gave birth and broke my neck and lived through it so I guess I am as qualified as much as he was. Happy NEW YEAR, God help us, am I allowed to say God anymore?

    • Animal Control

      You are more qualified!