BREAKING NEWS – Ben Nelson CAVES

The next election will be too late. There needs to be a recall provision instituted for congress critters.

Whoops, my name was missing an N.

Although I am considering a name change again. This time Obamastolemyhealthcare!

drudgereport is waiting for the payoff information.

CAROL HAKA

So America is screwed. Nothing but higher costs, rates and taxes for the middle class, big money to pharma, insurance companies, so we are told we have to pay what ever price the insurance company charges AND PAY for 30 million’s high cost insurance premiums….on our backs. Gee, thanks Democrats.

Tossed out the window is “lower costs”, “lower your premiums” lower drug prices”.

Just like the Amendment rejected by Democrats this week brought to the floor by Dorgan to import drugs….This administration used the same argument Bush used “safety” concerns. When they know the reimportation….that Obama campaigned on, from Canada are the very drugs we send them. Oh and of course, we won’t talk about the:

These arguments don’t hold up well, considering that 40 percent of the active ingredients in American prescription drugs come from India and China

Why is it our govt is willing to ship everything else in from China, but when it comes Big Pharma, they draw the line?

But really, most of the drugs we talk about are sold by the “us makers” regardless where the ingredients come from and they ship them on to other countries. It’s just cheaper if we can buy them back from those other countries. SICK, isn’t it?

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By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, December 16, 2009

On the campaign trail, Barack Obama vowed to take on the drug industry by allowing Americans to import cheaper prescription medicine. “We’ll tell the pharmaceutical companies ‘thanks, but no, thanks’ for the overpriced drugs — drugs that cost twice as much here as they do in Europe and Canada,”

and

Drugmakers have lobbied hard against the import proposal. Such imports could cost the industry billions of dollars, but its lobbyists have emphasized the worry that unsafe or ineffective drugs could find their way to consumers.

“There is tremendous pushback by the pharmaceutical industry,” Dorgan said. “If I had the sweetheart deal they have, I’d fight to the finish to try to keep it.“

then,

“It’s got to be a little awkward,” said Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.).

…not with these koolaid drinking Obots not paying attention to reality!

Bend over everyone! We’re all having sex done to us by Obama!!!

We need a new, super-duper vacuum cleaner for that mess in Washington.

PLEASE MAKE THIS GO VIRAL:

I yelled about this on some blogs awhile back – that part of the healthcare plan was a massive POWER GRAB by the Executive branch, to take Medicare out from under the control of Congress, all the better to, in effect, dismantle it. They got tired of trying to do it legislatively, so are doing an end run.

Some on the TeaParty Right pointed it out, but because they framed it in “death panel” language, the Left reflexively poo-pooed it without bothering to look and see if there was a grain of truth in it. (See how the bastards play our ideologies against each other, to raise a covering dust storm over what they are really doing?)

One of the most draconian measures is in the Senate bill – and from I’ve been reading, it was apparently inserted at the behest of the White House. It would set up a permanent, unelected “Fed for Medicare” board to independently institute further Medicare cuts. These cuts could not be blocked – only tinkered with (i.e. reallocating what specific services are targeted for cutting) – by Congress. If a “tinkering” bill is not passed and signed by the President, the cuts mandated by the board go into effect automatically. And after 2020 Congress loses the power to even tinker with the cuts.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/11/19/does-harry-reid-s-health-care-bill-create-a-fed-for-medicare.aspx

See pages 1000-1053 of the bill.

In addition, Senators Lieberman, Whitehouse, Rockefeller, and Bingaman are planning to offer an amendment that would even further “strengthen” the “Fed for Medicare” provisions for future Medicare cuts.

Such an unelected board, to cut Medicare, has been a wet dream on the Right and among Corporatists for decades. And we’re handing it to them on a silver platter (apparently with little awareness on the Left).

Apparently they negotiated with Ben Nelson for 12 hours. Why didn’t they negotiate with Phrma for 12 hours?

Once again, our Congress stands for themselves, not for us.

Excellent point. Thanks for this post RRRAmy. I wanted health insurance reform which this bill surely IS NOT. Sad I know I will be paying for this bill with money and reduce health care…. And the EXCISE TAX is still in!! This is the most destructive aspect of the bill to the middle class. There is NOTHING more unfair to the middle class (and scarcely anyone else) who will burden the cost of this monstrosity.

Nothing coming out of this Administration is beneficial to the American People. The health care bill is merely the latest example. The left right and center all oppose it but the Administration cut its deal with big business and is using our money to bribe congress into supporting something which will cut our benefits and bankrupt the country. They are looting the American People and when we object to it they give us the finger. As someone noted on red states the day of reckoning is coming and it will not be pleasant for anyone. Particularly Ben Nelson both of you.

Sorry I’ve missed news and this site for about a week. A very sick niece was hospitalized a week ago but is doing much better now and was released from the hospital yesterday. But I think about her parents – a sister and brother-in-law – as I listened to the sad news this morning about the Senate passage of the health care reform bill. I worry for them and other families across our nation – middle-class people working very hard to make ends meet. My relatives at this moment consider themselves very fortunate because their daughter’s condition is treatable and should improve with time. They are also fortunate to have good health insurance, although their out-of-pocket expenses will be substantial because of the extensive and specialized medical care she received.
Now it looks like my relatives will either be paying more for what they already have or may even have worse health insurance coverage at higher premium rates. This is a “lose, lose” situation for the American people.

I’m so sick of the entire approach currently being taken by our legislators. There seems to be no will or courage to do what it takes to effect real reform. The collusion of government with the insurarace and pharmaceutical industries continues.

I prefer a simple and incremental approach in order to better see how particular measures effect costs, beginning with:

- Allowing the interstate sale of insurance products, thereby increasing competition and consumer choice.

- Doing whatever it takes to prevent US consumers from subsidizing the discount prices foreigners currently enjoy of American pharmaceuticals. Drug prices are ridiculously high and surely account for much of the exponential increase in healthcare spending.

(These two steps ALONE would bring down costs and spending tremendously).

Then, I would institute tax incentives to encourage individual ownship of health insurance in order to get away from the practice of employer-provided coverage. I wouldn’t BAN employer-provided coverage, as business should be able to maintain the perk as a hiring tool. However, business shouldn’t enjoy a tax preference over individuals. This is particularly important for older workers. I have older friends who are healthy and talented but can’t get jobs simply because employers don’t want to pay for their health insurance.

I think it was WMCB who enlightened us about Qliance — primary care clinics that were established to help the working poor have access to adequate healthcare. WE NEED MORE OF THIS KIND OF INNOVATION, STAT!

Before government even considers expanding Medicare and Medicaid eligibility, we need MUCH better oversight in order to cut down on fraud and waste in those programs.

Rev. Amy, was there any doubt Nelson of Nebraska would fold like a lawn chair? I am surpised it took this long.

Even my DemBot is whining, “why can’t they [the dems] just pass “single payer”?

or the Dorgan amendment. got to give Dorgan some credit ’cause he is like a dog with a bone and has the Cayman island mailboxes and this drug issue that makes to much common sense. Sadly missing is that vital attribute.

We’ve only just begun to fight, Americans. Forcing citizens to purchase a product or a service is illegal. Even while our taxas “might” go up to fund Dim pay to play schemes the next 3 years, we gotta get our REAL Constitutional lawyers tearing this scam bill apart.

Let’s learn from 2007-2008. Prepare, prepare, prepare. Then holler, holler, holler.