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How the White House Got To Ben Nelson Et al.

Besides the sweeteners — see “Ben Nelson’s Medicaid deal” (h/t Reverend Amy) — here’s why Ben Nelson and other reluctant Democratic senators caved on Obamacare (see Reverend Amy’s breaking news story below). Here is also why the CBO — that “independent” (ha!) body — just came out with its blessings on Obamacare, scoring the bill high, and saying that Obamacare will cut the deficit.

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I do not know this for a fact. But I do know this. Do you know what I mean? I know that Ben Nelson was threatened by Rahm Emanuel who told him that they’d make sure he loses what he most loves. His Senate seat.

There’s a gripping scene in The West Wing series when President Bartlet desperately needs the vote of a new member of the House who is resisting voting for Bartlet’s legislation.

Josh Lyman — don’t think for a second that the last name for his character was accidentally chosen — meets with the House member on the steps outside the House.

Josh tells the Congressman that he won’t be returning to the House. Bewildered, the Congressman asks why.

Josh tells him that he will not receive a DIME from the Democratic party. Josh tells him further that the White House will find a new attractive prosecutor-type to run against him in the Democratic primary.

Then Josh tells him that President Bartlet himself will appear at a campaign event for that hand-picked opponent.

What did the Congressman do?

He changed his vote. He voted for Bartlet’s plan. HERE is the video, with my great thanks to Reverend Amy for finding this (!). WTG, Amy!

Ben Nelson was made an offer he didn’t dare refuse.

I have ZERO knowledge that this is the kind of tactic that was used on Ben Nelson et al. But I know it in my bones.

How about you?

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P.S. I trust the photo isn’t too offensive, but it is the unforgettable scene from The Godfather when a movie producer is told he must hire an actor favored by Marlon Brando’s character. When the producer resists, his most beloved race horse is murdered and its head is put in the bed of the producer.

The analogy seemed, at the least, rather apt.

Oh sure, the White House sweetened the deal with some nice pork for Nelson’s Nebraska — like they did for Mary Landrieu. See “Ben Nelson’s Medicaid deal” — which is wholly unfair to the other 49 states:

Sen. Mary Landrieu got the “Louisiana Purchase.” Sen. Ben Nelson got the federal government to pick up most his state’s future Medicaid tab — forever.

As part of the deal to win Nelson’s support, the federal government will pay for Nebraska’s new Medicaid recipients. It’s a provision worth about $45 million over the first decade.

Medicaid is usually paid for with a mix of federal and state funding, but Nelson’s carve out means that any Medicaid beneficiaries who join the program after the bill passes will be paid for in full by the federal government.

It’s a sweet deal considering that many governors are worried that the Medicaid expansion will further strain already stressed state budgets.

By the way, I have a story in drafts — i’m not done writing it yet — that will show how much harm this legislation will do to EVERY state’s budget.

Besides the huge new burdens that states will incur in trying to live up to the Medicaid enlargement, the federal government’s deficit will grow as it aids many states in meeting the Medicaid demands.

This ALSO means that every Senator should have played “hard to get,” just to see what kind of goodies the White House would give them. I’m sure that, in the future, every Senator will do exactly this.

But I still believe they also threatened Nelson, who is very vulnerable in his reelection quest. I have ZERO proof that this occurred. But I know it. I just do.

Besides threatening to withhold campaign monies from Nelson’s reeelection bid, the White House also surely promised him generous aid should he cave in and go along with Obama’s obsessive need to pass this health care bill.

Nelson proved that he can be bought. And I hope that every Nebraskan sees that, and votes accordingly.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    And now we know what Ben Nelson was promised. Are you ready for this? That ALL new Medicaid recipients in Nebraska will be covered by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, i.e., US! Yep – that’s the deal he made. Here’s the link: http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1209/Ben_Nelsons_Medicaid_deal.html

    The comments I have seen at Politico and The Hill show how furious most people are about this health care plan. And they are VERY angry abt this “horse trading,” as one person put it Or “Grand Larceny” as another put it. Oh, people are hot under the collar abt this whole thing.

  • jwrjr

    The WH would never do a thing like that (/sarc). Oh, I forgot. In Chicago that is the preferred method of “negotiation”.

  • Docelder

    They are spoiling the brats with these payouts. Just one and any one random senator now can pull out and enter the jackpot round. I think the celebration is premature. We are talking about snakes… 60 of them to be exact.

  • Docelder

    Chicago never ran out of money because of the government. But the government now will run out of money and I don’t think out Chinese friends are as enthusiastic as Rahm and the Chicago boys are.

  • tek

    Nelson was bribed, but Rahm probably threatened his seat, too. That’s the game now that we have Rovian Democrats in charge.

    This bodes ill for the amnesty bill which is already introduced into the House this week by Luiz Gutierrez, D. Chicago. It effectively nullifies all immigration laws and allows foreign people to come into the U. A. at will. Nevermind 75% of Americans are anti-amnesty, this administration will hand our country over to foreign nationals.

  • tek

    correction: U. S.

  • Bronwyn’s Harbor

    Our only recourse is 2010 and 2012. Let’s pray that people go to the polls and speak in the sole way that is left to them — provided the ballots get counted properly, and not Chicago style.

  • tek

    Docelder: That thought occurred to me also. Why not pretend to be opposed to the administration, state that you will not vote for The One’s bills, then they’ll have to buy you out? We’ll see more and more of this.

  • tek

    What worries me is, if the amnesty goes through in the next year, these illegals get instant amnesty that includes the vote. By 2010, Obama will have a hispanic majority.

  • Docelder

    Somehow the story needs to be leaked out credibly that a prominent senator has figured this weakness out and is planning to pull out of health care and break the 60 count until he gets favors. But don’t say who it is. This way the greedy bastards will all want to beat whoever it is to the punch. Nothing will ever get passed.

  • elizabethrc

    Obama is too dense to realize that these strongarm tactics, in the face of a nation which does not want this bill, is going to end his presidency. Sure, he’ll finish out his 3 years, but he’ll accomplish nothing, as he’s done so far, only it will be far worse for him.
    His blind ambition and overcharged ego are sickening the people of this country and his total disregard for our wishes will not be forgotten and certainly will not be forgiven.
    In the long run, it will be the Dems who suffer most because they’ll once again be the minority party. Hopefully they will never again be in the majority with the chance to do great damage to this country.
    The payoffs to these congresspeople need to make it to the light of day. Landrieu, Nelson, Lieberman all need to be made to account for every dime that they receive, including the source.

  • Bronwyn’s Harbor

    Thanks so much, Amy! I added this to the post.

  • I’m a Linda too

    We hear that Obama does hold grudges, about the smallest of things. Including a Democratic Congressman who did and said “did everything I could to get him elected in 2007 and 2008″, Conyers.

    And by DeFazio.

    Pelosi, Rahm do not scare Rep. DeFazio

    “‘Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother,’ Obama told DeFazio during a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus, according to members afterward.”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/72889-pelosi-rahm-do-not-scare-rep-defazio

    But, for Nelson, it wasn’t him they threatened. According to now more than 3, Obama threatened Offutt Air Force Base, US Stategic Command, in NE, to put it on the BRAC list.

    yep, obama threatens jobs, homeland security, wasted tax dollars and our military. That’s the pig he is.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/12/source_dems_threaten_nelson_in_1.asp

  • Docelder

    I think he wants to be FDR. But he is going to need to completely force us into a depression to accomplish that. Being a narcissist, he doesn’t have empathy for anybody but himself and this is not a problem.

  • Docelder

    yep, obama threatens jobs, homeland security, wasted tax dollars and our military.

    Yep. That is what he is. Then again he did “win”. Maybe next time something that ominous coming from a President will be noticed.

  • Bronwyn’s Harbor

    I wrote that in my post. That every senator should play “hard to get” so that they can get big breaks for their states.

    ALL OF WHICH, btw, means that the federal deficit is going to go up astronomically.

  • Bronwyn’s Harbor

    Man oh man. That’s some valuable info you dug up.

    I tell you, an entire book could be written about all the horse-trading and threats.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Now that will be a best seller!

  • Jim S

    Chinese have stated that “the world no longer has the money to buy Americas treasury notes”. In other words, Øbama and the spendthrifts we have in congress will get no more money.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    There are some god comments at the Politico article, like this one: Is this what our government is reduced to, votes for sale to the highest bidder? By the way it is our tax dollars that Obama is using and why should one state get more than another. This is corruption at its finest my friends and please remember this when the midterm elections come up next year. We deserve better. The irony of this whole thing is how many small businesses will fail because of the mandates and fines and how many jobs will be lost. Somebody has to pay and it is us. Please call your “representatives” and Senators. Posted By: ROYSTOLL2

    Another person, a Nebraskan, said Nelson has committed “political suicide.” Another Nebraskan said the people of that state were very much opposed to this health care bill, and Nelson will find that out.

    Let’s hope so. It sure would be new and different for these jokers to get their comeuppance for not listening to their constituents.

  • wbboei

    I wrote a letter to Nelson contrasting his willingness to abandon principle for the sake of expediency to the figures cited in Kennedys book Profiles In Courage who stood their ground for the sake of the country as a whole. I then reminded him of three things de Toqueville said, which Nelson succumbed to.

    1/ The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money

    2/ Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.

    3/ What is most important for democracy is not that great fortunes should not exist, but that great fortunes should not remain in the same hands. In that way there are rich men, but they do not form a class.

  • Elizabeth

    As part of the deal to win Nelson’s support, the federal government will pay for Nebraska’s new Medicaid recipients. It’s a provision worth about $45 million over the first decade.

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    Is this even legal ?

    Couldn’t making taxpayers in every other state and any insurance company outside of Nebraska forever responsible for the expanded Medicaid program in Nebraska be a denial of equal protection under the 14th Amendment for residents of other states??

  • andrew

    With regard to #3, I keep wondering lately what happens to democracy and liberty when “great fortunes” becomes “95% of the total wealth in the hands of 5% of the population”.

    What’s being debated at any given moment is whether we’re seeing a clear demonstration of the answer, or an effort by the Obama administration to mollify the results of that situation to the general benefit.

  • Obamastolemycountry

    What I find so stupid is that these politicians getting their sweet deals actually trust scum like this?????? Have they not noticed the lies that spew out of the mouths of Obama, Emmanuel, Axelrod, Jarrett and pretty much any other Obama administration power player? These people will not get money from the DNC anyway and they will get no help to get re-elected. Another stupid thing is that Obama’s coat tails aren’t exactly what they once were either!!!!

    I am so F-ing pissed! I begged people and pleaded with people not to bring Chicago politics to the national level. I begged!!! I have never before asked people who disagreed with me to vote the way I was, but last year I did.

    Why was this crap so visible to some of us and not at all visible to the kool aid drinkers???? Are that many Americans really that f-ing stupid?????

  • wbboei

    I have a friend who was on Wall Street for many years. He worked as a trader, a broker and an investment banker at various times. He leased a seat on the American Exchange.

    During the late 1980s he began to focus on the baby boomer demographic, calculating when it would hit retirement and how we would pay for it. There was a declining birth rate and declining job creation dynamic was beginning to appear at that time.

    So much of the terrible things which the Obama administration is doing will destroy the middle class although most people are oblivious to it now and when it does dawn on them they will follow what ever they are told like passive sheep.

    But if you factor out the interests of the American People, then the direction this Administration is headed is patently obvious. To loot the middle class of what it owns and at the same time to break the promises made to the baby boom generation. This includes legalization of illegals.

    In the same manner that the people behind Obama took over governments in Georgia, Ukraine and elsewhere this country has been taken over by bad people without firing a shot. Normally, I would avoid the moral imperative because it sheds more heat than light. Here however it is unavoidable.

  • beachnan

    What I don’t understand is why are they doing this? Does this administration think that the majority of us are suddenly going to put our stamp of approval on this piece of crap? They act like they are winning something, but what have they won, if they continue to turn off more and more people each day? Do they want to deal with an angry electorate? Maybe they have already figured out a way to game the elections again, so our anger is irrelavent.

  • wbboei

    We can all play this game of loot the country. Everyone should write to their democratic senator and demand to know why they did not get as good a deal for their state as judas nelson did for Nebraska. We should tell them to vote no unless each of our respective states gets the same vigorish. And why not. Oh it is costly alright. But relax Obama can always print more money, even if it is worth nothing.

  • Docelder

    To loot the middle class of what it owns

    Exactly yes, we are the final bubble… well us and everybody holding a lot of treasury notes. The Chinese and Arabs have to know by now they are so screwed. if the pull out now, we collapse and they lose it everything anyway, if they stay in they have to watch it all slowly stolen. I would imagine they are pissed. Retribution wouldn’t be out of the question I wouldn’t think. These aren’t Madoff type middle class investors that are getting screwed here. Rather it is literally nations getting the shaft.

  • annie

    I cannot believe how these politicians have no backbone they all should be voted out all they do is line their pockets and say that it’s for the people, I guess they think that we are all stupid just wait I want to see their faces when they loose.

  • Smart-Jazz-Just Me

    Gosh…you watch to much TV…. Its reversed here. Obama needs Nelson’s support. Nelson is much stronger than Obama and his threats. Though we know a deal was made… The question is what was the deal?

  • Docelder

    I sometimes wish the Koolaid was for me. It doesn’t do a thing for me fortunately or unfortunately.

  • wbboei

    With regard to #3, I keep wondering lately what happens to democracy and liberty when “great fortunes” becomes “95% of the total wealth in the hands of 5% of the population”.
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    It becomes a have and have not society. At that point the only way to sustain it is by instituting a totalitarian state, with bread and circuses. Eventually, it dies. Rome is but one example. What the plutocrats down through history never seem to understand is that they need the middle class as a buffer in order to survive themselves. This evolution cannot end well.

  • Docelder

    I no longer believe reason will win this one. It may be years out, but I think we will see a second revolution. Probably French style.

  • wbboei

    Its reversed here. Obama needs Nelson’s support. Nelson is much stronger than Obama and his threats. Though we know a deal was made… The question is what was the deal?
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    If that is true it is good. In that case, they are ignoring the weight of the evidence and presenting Obama as the weak and indecisive man we know he is.

    This is like meeting the Wizard of Oz. I mean Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion met him in the Emerald City. Instead of the brooding omnipresence depicted on the screen he turns out to be an empty suit just like you know who.

    You dont know who. Well, let me give you a hint. He is the man who has his campaign qua administration feed bullshit to the likes of Glenn Thrush that he burst into a private meeting and forged a consensus where there was none, which was later outed by another Politico writer who said he knocked politely on the door and asked to come in.

    You dont need to be named Hugo Chavez to smell the burning sulphur trail which is emitted by Obama and lingers after he is gone.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Excellent

  • Portia Elizabeth

    We get it, andrew. You’re poor and you’re pissed about it. It’s just so unfair that the people who worked hard in school and got good grades went on to get good jobs with good salaries. And they have the nerve to want to keep what they earn! Such selfish bastards!

  • ctfish

    Brilliant idea Docelder!

  • wbboei

    Exactly yes, we are the final bubble… well us and everybody holding a lot of treasury notes. The Chinese and Arabs have to know by now they are so screwed. if the pull out now, we collapse and they lose it everything anyway, if they stay in they have to watch it all slowly stolen. I would imagine they are pissed. Retribution wouldn’t be out of the question I wouldn’t think. These aren’t Madoff type middle class investors that are getting screwed here. Rather it is literally nations getting the shaft.
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    Correct. Of course if there is a world crisis then there would be a rush of hot money into the dollar, and that big spender in the White House would waste that too.

  • wbboei

    This wasteful exorbitant spending based on loans we will have to repay makes us increasingly dependent on other governments, just like not having a manufacturing sector. That is part of the Obaminaton plan.

  • Docelder

    Of course if there is a world crisis then there would be a rush of hot money into the dollar

    That was almost an epiphany I think. The Obama crisis machine is already setup, crisis room and all. This could get ugly, once the entire rest of the world sees that they have been played. I need to think now, I almost see things more clearly. It is almost like having to freeze a tornado and to take inventory of it’s contents.

  • creeper

    I’m not sure I understand Nelson. If what we’re reading about the feeling of his constituents is correct, he’s looking a losing his seat if he DOES vote for the bill.

    Something doesn’t add up here. What is abundantly clear is that the will of the people is again being ignored.

    Follow the money.

  • beachnan

    I agree creeper. Even if Nelson has made a sweetheart deal that will bring millions to his state, I don’t see how that will get him reelected. It wouldn’t matter to me anyway, I would still vote his ass out for voting for this bill.

  • TeakWoodKite

    I guess New London is on the chopping block?

  • NomNomNom

    He’s either known all along that he’s in for 1 term or he’s known all along that they plan to reinstall him for a second 4.
    either way, it has nothing to do with voting.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Is Congress little more than “The Best Whore House”in DC?

    Great Point about the legality Elizabeth, but then ya have Senators like Blanch Lincoln who do not think the Oath they took means anything.

    It is the samething as GW calling the Constitution a “scrap of paper.”

    686 billion the Senate for DOD, tacked onto this was 13 billion to extend un-enjoyment payments.

    Ain’t it funny how we are busted flat but still paying?
    The way the Dem’s are going at it, I will be waiting for BO to give the speech;

    I want this Nation to be at peace, and we shall be. I want the air to be clean, and it will be clean. I want the water to be pure, and it will be pure. I want better education for all Americans, whatever their race or religion or whatever it may be, and an equal opportunity for all, and that shall be.

    .

  • NomNomNom

    还是叫我淖毛湖淖毛湖淖毛湖DeFarge

  • NomNomNom

    Rome didn’t have drones.

  • tek

    elizabeth: He’s not really an American and he doesn’t understand the political culture in this country. Rahm Emanual is also an immigrant from Israel who doesn’t understand our culture. These people think (as did Bush et al) all they need is to find the right threat and they can control the voters and the country. Here’s hoping that by 2012 Obama won’t be able to threaten anyone’s seat.

  • andrew

    The debt commission is likely going to be the next big story. The topic will be fiscal responsibility and long-term stability.

    In 2010–an election year–we’re going to see who only talked the talk, and who’s actually prepared to walk the walk. Once again, the right thing to do for the nation will not necessarily be the popular thing to do. Politically, this one will make the health care debate seem like a walk in the park.

  • tek

    Disgusting. The Obama Democrats are just thugs.

  • tek

    andrew: That’s what happened in England under monarchy. The result? The American Revolution.

  • andrew

    Nope. Not poor at all. Quite comfortable, in fact–although my definition of comfort doesn’t necessarily include 3,000 sq foot particle board palaces, the frequent replacement of still-perfectly-sound automobiles, or 60″ flat screen televisions.

    I suspect my own definitions of “work” and “earned” also differ somewhat from those of the wealthiest 5%.

  • GIVE ME A BREAK

    Back in August I was on a conference call that had about 28,000 people phoning in, hosted by Americans for Prosperity, and with guests Jim Demint and Michelle Bachmann. Bachmann told a story about how when the House first met Obama, he locked them all up in some room in the basement of Congress, and told them not to get in his way. That he didn’t CARE if he only had one term, but he WAS GOING TO PUSH THROUGH HIS AGENDA. He knows he’s done, and he doesn’t care. He has already destroyed America and will continue to do so until he’s gone. In three years, mission accomplished. He will have “fundamentally transformed America” into a poverty stricken Banana Republic minion of the globalist loons.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Just call, ok?

  • tek

    Elizabeth: From you mouth to God’s ears.

  • basil

    Oh SH!T!!!!!!

    I heard rumors about that but never heard such an account with only 1 degree of separation.

    DAmn but I wish that would go viral.

  • tek

    GiveMeABreak: I believe that story. By 2012, I think it might be too late to save the United States. It will be a third world country and it will be run by hispanics. Look at Miami; the whole country will follow if this amnesty goes through.

    This is not an administration, it’s a coup d’etat waiting to happen.

  • tek

    Docelder: I think you are correct. We will end up being a third world country with nothing but a mega arsenal.

  • GIVE ME A BREAK

    Bachmann and Demint..along with Boehner, Coburn, Thune, McConnell, Pence, etc. are heroes IMO. This would be Cuba already without them behind the scenes. Even McCain has grown a pair lately, blasting off.

    Talking to Michelle Bachmann on that call was like talking to a neighbor or friend. She is so down to earth, didn’t come from money and worked her way through everything…I totally admire her, and I could hear stress and concern in her voice, as well as Demint’s, for what is being done to us. They of all people know it.

    I wasn’t shocked when she told us the story about Obama. Like most here, I knew who and what he was two years ago. Arguably, he is worse than I even thought possible, and he has destroyed America at a speed I thought impossible. But we knew what he would do.

    I feel so sick today and the worst part is that it’s the holidays. Kind of shows what amoral garbage these pigs are. They’re going to ruin our Christmas with this nonsense. I still can’t BELIEVE they openly, without fear of reprisal, use our TAXPAYER DOLLARS for bribes to pass something WE DO NOT WANT. It’s like living in Soviet Russia.

  • Donna Brazile

    I can’t wait for states to start fighting amongst themselves as Senators continue to make the rest of us pay for their sweetheart deals. You’ve now got Ho, Ho, Ho Landrieu and Nelson.

  • NomNomNom

    1-800-PTC-HFRK

  • NomNomNom

    don’t forget that the IMF already began its audit of the Federal Reserve: results due out in 2010. debt commission ain’t the half of it.

  • Cathy in Ks.

    I personally hope that the republicans pick up a lot of seats in 2010 and literally tie the hands of this president so that he cannot continue to wreck further damage on this nation. Senators Nelson and Reid and other democrats in congress up for re-election are more than likely history come November, 2010. (My one wish is that we could push the hand of the clock forward right now to that date.) And if republicans dominate both houses, Pelosi is no longer speaker of the House.

    In my own state, our congressional representative – a democrat- announced recently that he will not be seeking re-election in 2010. I’m not certain why but I have a feeling that he’s looking at declining poll numbers for dems in congress as well as the president and realizing he wants to go out with grace rather than a humiliating defeat. He’s been in office for several years and I was happy with him until he caved for Obama during the democratic primaries. I let his office know about it. I think his popularity has declined tremendously in the past several months.

  • connie

    When did they say this, after Obama pist them off in Copenhagen?? Is this why Pelosi said no new spending next year??

  • connie

    You got me, it should have been easy to see, but the MSM covered up and people are too busy to question.
    Chicago has NEVER gotten the mob out of their town, I pray we will be sucessfull in getting these mobsters out of our govt.

  • confused

    when a President’s approval ratings get on the low side, as Obama’s are now, conventional wisdom maintains that he would have less political clout. No leverage. If that is the case, then the threats made by Obammanuel could be easily swept aside if a person had a backbone. I don’t see that it would take much courage for Nelson to call their bluff. It wouldn’t really be all that dangerous a thing to do, to stand up to them and say “no deal, I’ll take my chances of losing my seat, but I’ll keep my soul.” I mean, if the political landscape continues to look the way it does now, then the DNC or the DNCC can threaten all they want to withhold funds. If Nelson would have stood up to Obammanuel, then his Republican opponent wouldn’t have been able to run against the vote as he/she will now. That’s my view at least. I like to think I would have called their bluff. They’re no better than thugs.

  • connie

    I personally think he knows he is a one term President because the people are going to demand he show his credentials to be put on the ballot again. Of coarse if his buddy get the governorship of Hawaii, he will manufacture a birth certificate. I think we all should be watching the governors race in Hawaii.

  • Slim Tyranny

    Does anybody really take these crazy conspiracy theories seriously anymore?

  • andrew

    Being a lawful resident doesn’t qualify a person to vote. You’ve also got to be a U.S. citizen.

  • IndianaDem

    You seem to forget that a republican/corporate cabal brought us to the very brink of economic disaster and continued to deny anything was fundamentally wrong until weeks before the elections. On their watch we saw the greatest upward transfer of wealth in the history of the nation, while America’s manufacturing base was sold overseas to the highest bidder. The super-rich got even richer and the poor got even poorer, while the middle classes have been left holding a bag stuffed with debts and empty promises.

    I haven’t heard any new ideas out of them lately.

  • joanne

    I guess you didn’t really have a conviction against abortion, Mr. Nelson, just a preference. I HAD hope for you but may your conscience bother you until you do the RIGHT thing!!

  • kenoshamarge

    These aren’t “Rovian Democrats”. These are “Axlerod Democrats”. Rove has a lot to answer for, Democrat’s corruption ain’t one of them.

  • elizabethrc

    Perhaps if it were illegal for congresspeople to gain even a dime above their authorized paychecks, over and above any monies they brought into the process, if they were barred from receiving lobbyists/corporate/WH largesse in any way shape or form, they might begin to start acting responsibly. That would be working in the best interests of their constituents and not themselves. The way things work now is a clear disincentive to work on behalf of their constituents and by extension, their country.

    The NYT this morning had an editorial about why Obama should institute the huge tax on bankers’ bonus compensation in this country, as England has done. It is unconscionable that the upper eschelon execs in this country be granted millions and millions in bonuses, (it is also true that those hardworking folks lower down on the totum will be the ones punished in reduced compensation. In the interest of full disclosure, a family member is in banking and bonuses were entirely scuttled for 2 years, inspite of any business brought in. Those bonuses were not close to the excessive ones we’ve read and heard about.) I suggest that until Obama is made unable to pork up congresspeople to get bills passed, until there’s not enough money in it for them to change their votes, until their entire individual finances are made public and where the money came from, he needs to be made to stop the threats and the backroom deals and he needs to clean up his own house.

  • elizabethrc

    And to Obama we need to say what so many of us are thinking: Yeah, Barry, don’t think we’re not keeping score either. And we have a very long memory.

  • elizabethrc

    Writing to my senators will do no good. They are Dodd and Lieberman!

  • Ferd Berfle

    Offdah! My condolences, elizabethrc. I wrote my representative and Senators and was assured they were going to perform due diligence before deciding how to vote, which means, in essence, they could be bought.

    I think maybe it is time for the electorate to make every politician an offer he/she can’t refuse coupled with middle-class civil disobedience on a nationwide scale. Shut it down.

  • Ferd Berfle

    If what we’re reading about the feeling of his constituents is correct, he’s looking a losing his seat if he DOES vote for the bill.

    I lived in Nebraska for several years and they are as close to a centrist state as I’ve ever lived in, voting for Republicans or Democrats depending on their commitment to their espoused principles. Stick a fork in Nelson because he is done.

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/12/21/obama-threatens-a-rare-congressman-willing-to-defy-the-white-house/ Obama Threatens a Rare Congressman Willing to Defy Him [Update: Anti-Nelson Rally in Omaha] : NO QUARTER

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