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		<title>By: 123456</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Very Merry Christmas And Happy New Year : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Very Merry Christmas And Happy New Year : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] require courage? We&#8217;ve seen what happens if a Democrat doesn&#8217;t toe the line (&#8221;We&#8217;re keeping score, brother,&#8221; &#8211; Obama). No doubt. That&#8217;s the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] require courage? We&#8217;ve seen what happens if a Democrat doesn&#8217;t toe the line (&#8221;We&#8217;re keeping score, brother,&#8221; &#8211; Obama). No doubt. That&#8217;s the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dems better as losers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dems better as losers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daisy -- Expect the phoney polls to say just that.  But it won&#039;t work because people don&#039;t trust the media or their polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daisy &#8212; Expect the phoney polls to say just that.  But it won&#8217;t work because people don&#8217;t trust the media or their polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Dems better as losers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dems better as losers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosi is supposed to have said that she doesn&#039;t care if the Blue Dogs lose their seats because she is tired of dealing with them.  A number of Blue Dogs have announced their intention not to seek reelection.  So why should they vote with Pelosi when this bill goes back to the House for Reconciliation?  

When the Democratic Party Headquarters relocated to Chicago did any pundit even mention that with Obama in effect running the party that these kind of threats could be commonplace? I like Nat Hentoff but the alarm bells should have gone off when this was done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi is supposed to have said that she doesn&#8217;t care if the Blue Dogs lose their seats because she is tired of dealing with them.  A number of Blue Dogs have announced their intention not to seek reelection.  So why should they vote with Pelosi when this bill goes back to the House for Reconciliation?  </p>
<p>When the Democratic Party Headquarters relocated to Chicago did any pundit even mention that with Obama in effect running the party that these kind of threats could be commonplace? I like Nat Hentoff but the alarm bells should have gone off when this was done.</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
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		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I come back to the point I made in the original post, and that is that a President who is low in the polls has no political clout.  he can huff and puff and threaten all he wants, but unless he has The People behind him, where to the threats ultimately lead?  A Senator or Rep. can just as easily look Ommanuel in the eye and say &quot;go ahead, make my day&quot; as they can be scared and bow down.  At this point in time Ommanuel have not as much clout as Jan/Feb. o9 and it seems to be dissipating rather rapidly.  so the threats seem pretty empty to me.  But then, I am not a whore for political power either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I come back to the point I made in the original post, and that is that a President who is low in the polls has no political clout.  he can huff and puff and threaten all he wants, but unless he has The People behind him, where to the threats ultimately lead?  A Senator or Rep. can just as easily look Ommanuel in the eye and say &#8220;go ahead, make my day&#8221; as they can be scared and bow down.  At this point in time Ommanuel have not as much clout as Jan/Feb. o9 and it seems to be dissipating rather rapidly.  so the threats seem pretty empty to me.  But then, I am not a whore for political power either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jangles</title>
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		<dc:creator>jangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand why the 0 regime could not play hardball politics for what we really wanted---real hc reform that would give us more security and less cost.  Oh, forgot, that is not what the o regime wanted---that was what we wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand why the 0 regime could not play hardball politics for what we really wanted&#8212;real hc reform that would give us more security and less cost.  Oh, forgot, that is not what the o regime wanted&#8212;that was what we wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: b mathews</title>
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		<dc:creator>b mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the msm continually refers to tea party members as republican right wingers but there are just as many dems (including myself) and independents fighting the good fight against this obamacare disaster.so now that the public option and medicare buy-in are gone, whats left?   just a mandate forcing people to buy health ins. whether they want it or not. sorry but this makes absolutely no sense. wheres the &quot;reform&quot; in that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the msm continually refers to tea party members as republican right wingers but there are just as many dems (including myself) and independents fighting the good fight against this obamacare disaster.so now that the public option and medicare buy-in are gone, whats left?   just a mandate forcing people to buy health ins. whether they want it or not. sorry but this makes absolutely no sense. wheres the &#8220;reform&#8221; in that?</p>
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		<title>By: Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True that!  I need to order more scorecards - I&#039;m abt to run out!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that!  I need to order more scorecards &#8211; I&#8217;m abt to run out!  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Doc99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is any of this different from what Blagojevich did? This is flat out bribery. Congressional ethics is officially oxymoronic. Our country&#039;s in the very best of hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is any of this different from what Blagojevich did? This is flat out bribery. Congressional ethics is officially oxymoronic. Our country&#8217;s in the very best of hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy Mae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daisy Mae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read on politico.com (Ben Smith) that Schumer and other Dems. just see they are going to get a big boost in the polls for this h.c. fiasco. 
Am I living in an altered universe?  Are they?  People will start getting their soc. sec. checks without COLA soon.  January will be a big reality month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read on politico.com (Ben Smith) that Schumer and other Dems. just see they are going to get a big boost in the polls for this h.c. fiasco.<br />
Am I living in an altered universe?  Are they?  People will start getting their soc. sec. checks without COLA soon.  January will be a big reality month.</p>
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		<title>By: KR</title>
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		<dc:creator>KR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The taxes, loss of good doctors, rationing, rising costs will keep us reminded.
Plus, these evil doers have more in the works: amnesty, VAT, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The taxes, loss of good doctors, rationing, rising costs will keep us reminded.<br />
Plus, these evil doers have more in the works: amnesty, VAT, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jangles</title>
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		<dc:creator>jangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congressmen and Senators know they are going down in the next two elections and want to secure their career after their elected office term is over (ie lobbyists, ambassadors).

Right on the mark!  It is all about them; it is not about us.

Amazing that we can be in such economic peril and the congress fiddles around in DC while we burn.  Those on the left and the right so disillusioned and upset with what is happening must come together to overthrow this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congressmen and Senators know they are going down in the next two elections and want to secure their career after their elected office term is over (ie lobbyists, ambassadors).</p>
<p>Right on the mark!  It is all about them; it is not about us.</p>
<p>Amazing that we can be in such economic peril and the congress fiddles around in DC while we burn.  Those on the left and the right so disillusioned and upset with what is happening must come together to overthrow this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: hokma</title>
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		<dc:creator>hokma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many of these Congressmen and Senators know they are going down in the next two elections and want to secure their career after their elected office term is over (ie lobbyists, ambassadors).

I am believing that, more than anything else, this healthcare fiasco will create a Republican tsunami in the next two elections and a close to permanent minority status for Democrats. The effect of this Tea Party Movement will be devastating to Democrats who apparently are completely politically tone deaf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many of these Congressmen and Senators know they are going down in the next two elections and want to secure their career after their elected office term is over (ie lobbyists, ambassadors).</p>
<p>I am believing that, more than anything else, this healthcare fiasco will create a Republican tsunami in the next two elections and a close to permanent minority status for Democrats. The effect of this Tea Party Movement will be devastating to Democrats who apparently are completely politically tone deaf.</p>
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		<title>By: betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the people who are telling us that this is the bill they wanted all along
- a mandatory insurance bill - nothing more. 
They knew the mood of the country was for &lt;strong&gt;health insurance reform &lt;/strong&gt;so they went through this distraction/dance while they slowly but surly, through the use of judas goats, to the mandatory law.  They did this rather then allow us into the discussion on the pros/cons and ramifications of mandatory health insurance.  

I think one of the things &lt;strong&gt;WE&lt;/strong&gt; would have insisted on was interstate competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the people who are telling us that this is the bill they wanted all along<br />
- a mandatory insurance bill &#8211; nothing more.<br />
They knew the mood of the country was for <strong>health insurance reform </strong>so they went through this distraction/dance while they slowly but surly, through the use of judas goats, to the mandatory law.  They did this rather then allow us into the discussion on the pros/cons and ramifications of mandatory health insurance.  </p>
<p>I think one of the things <strong>WE</strong> would have insisted on was interstate competition.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabethrc</title>
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		<dc:creator>elizabethrc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The growing acrimony in this country, led by that in our government, seems to be heading us in a dangerous direction.  
I am a fan of Masterpiece Theatre, many of whose presentations are set in an era of English classism.  Class was everything and one didn&#039;t cross class lines and it occurs to me that our government&#039;s obsession to separate us is actually along those same lines.  It&#039;s a not so gentle push at the moment, but I can see within Congress, the same disdain for the common man (the voter).  It&#039;s not a stretch to see that those in the WH and Congress have it in their heads that they are smarter than us, more worldly wise, and that they are our &#039;caretakers&#039;.  We&#039;re just to hickish to know what is best for us!
Personally, I didn&#039;t vote for anyone to be my lord or overseer.  I voted for that person to represent MY wishes and when I see that that vote has no meaning in their eyes, I will work hard to cast that person out.
Every one of us needs to consider this and guard our vote jealously against it being taken away from us, either by a lack of involvement or theft by an Acorn type organization.
We only have one chance. We need to keep score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The growing acrimony in this country, led by that in our government, seems to be heading us in a dangerous direction.<br />
I am a fan of Masterpiece Theatre, many of whose presentations are set in an era of English classism.  Class was everything and one didn&#8217;t cross class lines and it occurs to me that our government&#8217;s obsession to separate us is actually along those same lines.  It&#8217;s a not so gentle push at the moment, but I can see within Congress, the same disdain for the common man (the voter).  It&#8217;s not a stretch to see that those in the WH and Congress have it in their heads that they are smarter than us, more worldly wise, and that they are our &#8216;caretakers&#8217;.  We&#8217;re just to hickish to know what is best for us!<br />
Personally, I didn&#8217;t vote for anyone to be my lord or overseer.  I voted for that person to represent MY wishes and when I see that that vote has no meaning in their eyes, I will work hard to cast that person out.<br />
Every one of us needs to consider this and guard our vote jealously against it being taken away from us, either by a lack of involvement or theft by an Acorn type organization.<br />
We only have one chance. We need to keep score.</p>
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