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Backing Into The Presidency

According to Associated Press,

Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain’s challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.

Odd after Senator Obama’s earlier statement to McCain that he would meet anytime, anywhere to debate “the real issues.”

In summer, stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.

This harkens back to an interview Lou Dobbs did with respected political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf, recently, who said “Obama just needs to keep his head down and not make any mistakes until the Convention.”

I think that ship has sailed. Even the adoring media treatment Senator Obama was enjoying until very recently has started to sour. According to Dana Milbank of WaPo, some reporters are now referring to Obama as a “prom queen.”

McCain’s campaign spokesperson, Brian Rogers, was quick to pounce on this:

“We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama’s magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he’ll reconsider.”

Those McCain ads poking fun at the celebrity candidacy of Obama and comparing him to Moses parting the Red Sea are gaining traction, not only with the media, but with the American public. Polls are a statistical dead heat, a disaster for a Democrat at this point in the campaign.

Considering that the Republican brand is so damaged this year, why wouldn’t Senator Obama relish the opportunity to meet Senator McCain face to face at the first possible opportunity? If he is offering so much hope and change to us – why not stand before the American people and share concrete ideas so we can compare and contrast the two candidates. Surely that would give him a bump. No?

John McCain is no great speaker or debater. It’s not like Barack has to face off against Hillary Clinton – then I could understand him being scared. She would dance circles around him – and has.

In May, the McCain campaign came up with the idea to challenge Obama to 10 town hall meetings. Obama’s first response was more positive:

“Obviously, we would have to think through the logistics on that, but … if I have the opportunity to debate substantive issues before the voters with John McCain, that’s something that I am going to welcome.”

Guess he’s not going to welcome those town halls after all. And what logistics, exactly? Talk about keeping your head down.

An excellent article by Frank Salvato, Managing Editor of New Media Journal brings another point into sharp relief:

In light of the shameful snubbing Barack Obama inflicted upon the wounded US military personnel at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, it is painfully clear that he is not the candidate of “change.” If anything he is this election cycle’s version of the status quo; a hybrid of inflated rhetoric and Madison Avenue glitz. He offers hollow bumper-sticker catchphrase solutions (“yes we can,” “hope,” and “change”) to political, social and ideological problems he is ill-equipped to address professionally. This is the typical trade-craft of a political operative possessing an extremely limited political resume.

Those not blinded by the “bright, shiny thing” – the distractions of the hollow rhetoric and media marketing – understand that Obama is a political creation of the Chicago Democrat Machine; the Chicago Daley Machine. He is a slickly choreographed media tool meant to reinvent the image of the Democrat[ic] Party for the 21st Century.

The problem is that a symbol, as Obama now calls himself, does not and is not able to govern. Something the DNC would do well to keep in mind.

The first clue to this reality is the fact that his main campaign handler (some would say “puppet master”) is David Axelrod, a longtime strategist for Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, who fancies himself a “strategist in urban politics.” More recently, proof of the Chicago connection can be seen in the fact that the DNC moved a major portion of its operations to Chicago.

As Obama’s ego grows, so does the budding discontent within his base and his political party.

He has flip-flopped on so many issues and now, offshore oil drilling, leaving none other than his biggest fan, Nancy Pelosi, under the bus. I wonder if she’ll still want to walk with her arm wrapped around his waist.

Certainly MoveOn.Org and many others have felt the sting of his about-face on major issues very recently. FISA comes to mind. The habit of flip flopping is a dangerous one. You never know when the next one is coming.

There is an old adage about unfaithful husbands. If you got him because he was cheating on his wife with you, be prepared for him to cheat on you with someone else – once you are the wife.

I am not clear how voters can still support a man who has shown himself to be little more than a media creation, afraid to show his face at a town hall, who surrenders the majority of the positions he campaigned on without so much as a whimper. What changes are we talking about exactly? What hope is there left? His defenders are quick to say that he has to move to the center for the general election. But he is doing more than that. He is running to the right at lightning speed. Even still, why is he not willing to defend those moves before John McCain and the voters?

I realize I did not mention the name of Mr. Salvato’s article above: Hey Barack, Hillary Only Suspended Her Campaign. This might be something for super delegates to keep in mind, as well as Democratic Party voting stalwarts:

Should Barack Obama continue his slide into ego’s abyss, his campaign of arrogance, naively buying his own marketing scheme, should he continue to alienate the loose association of factions that make up the total of his base, he risks fiddling as his Rome burns; he risks facilitating the migration of super delegates from his candidacy to Hillary Clinton’s. Remember, she suspended her campaign, she didn’t end it.

Senator Clinton’s policies, progressive and straightforward from the beginning, would require no waffling now. She would not need to keep her head down. She would not need to back into the job.

The pressure cooker that is the White House, particularly with our current slate of serious problems, requires someone of great moral courage, experience and intestinal fortitude. Surely someone with the courage of their convictions is never afraid to show up, any time, any place to make their case to the American people. By any standards this would and should be an effective way to move the debate forward.

It might require Senator Obama to roll up his sleeves a bit more than he has to this point. His impatience was much in evidence the other day when dealing with hecklers in Florida:

‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’

We are talking about the toughest job in the world and snarking at voters, rather than addressing their concerns isn’t going to get it done. Contrast this behavior with John McCain in a similar situation recently. He answered a rather hostile man’s question and offered him a chance to follow up. They must have gone back and forth five times and wound up having a respectful exchange – until the man was satisfied and Senator McCain could continue.

Does anyone doubt Hillary Clinton would likewise handle herself in this way?

If Senator Obama lacks the willingness, and yes, humility, to make himself available to the American people in a town hall setting where he faces real competition, and one-on-one confrontations with voters, one might argue he is not possessed of the strength or knowledge to lead. He cannot ‘keep his head down’ forever.

Sooner or later, he will have to face the music.

The American people are waiting.

  • workingclass artist

    Excellent Ani….I don’t see why Obama would give up the opportunity since his supporters are painting his opponent as just another old white guy…LOL

    • tish

      he will say and do anything to get in the white house, and then you can kiss this country goodbye..this is no normal election, he will destroy us all…

      pelosi and reid are socialized marxists,,,they hate america, just love the money

      about time people start to realize the truth of what is going on here..
      voter fraud,,will get him in ,you watch, gore tried it and messed up, theyve had alot of practice, look how he got the senate and the nom? just sitting on the computer isnt going to stop them…protesting will help,,have to get out in droves, and protest this liar commy,,radical marxist…and his buddies..before its to late..

      • roseeriter

        What are you afraid of, Obama? No guts no glory!

        • JadD

          It is time Obama replaces his Burger King crown with a tiara.

      • workingclass artist

        According to Hillbuz Obama’s supporters are keeping that pesky New Book OBAMANATION off the shelves at Borders Bookstores in several cities…
        Welcome to the New Americastan…..Free Speech is so…ho-hum….and 20th century….

        • Patti

          I stopped in Borders yesterday morning looking for the book and the manager told me it will not hit the streets till Tuesday.

          • workingclass artist

            Hillbuz has been runnin stories on it….Check it out

          • Chicago Joe

            I went to two barnes and Nobles yesterday around Chgo. The first “didn’t have it,” but I bought it at the second. try them.

          • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

            he lied, unless he is talking about the other one, you can check borders by zipcode to see if it is in stock in your store (or is that barnes?) either way Obamanation is in stores now

            • SensibleWomanNOTforBO

              Support NQ and just order it from Amazon. It’s there.

          • TeakwoodKite

            Whats happening on Monday?

      • ritamary

        GORE tried voter fraud??? What are you talking about? Please get back on your meds.

  • Andy

    It seems the AP article left out an important paragraph that resonates with what political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf said. Namely:

    Obama’s reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy he’s adopted since claiming the nomination and grabbing a lead in national polls. Advisers to the Illinois senator, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss strategy, say Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama’s the front-runner.

    This is in

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_debates

    third paragraph.

    Wimp…

    • Jesse Jackson

      THE MARIONETTE WILL NOT DEBATE

      • Chicago Joe

        Can’t wait to see what bunker he flees to when all those mean foreign powers won’t play by his rules. If he can’t face off with McCain without his debate attack dog Rahm Emanuel structuring the event, well, he is a lot less courageous than he would have us believe.

    • beebop

      uh um I um uh think that someone should point out to princess graceless that he is in a statistical dead heat and losing support.

    • katmandu

      And he’s not much of a front runner. Tied in Gallup, one point ahead in Rasmussen, and not as popular as McCain:

      McCain is currently viewed favorably by 56% of voters, Obama by 54%. McCain earns positive reviews from 85% of Republicans while Obama does the same from 83% of Democrats. Among unaffiliated voters, 61% have a favorable opinion of McCain. For Obama, that number is 47%

      http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    • s. hall

      andy — Has it occurred to Obama that perhaps having such a high profile as he has is turning people off? He should share his high profile in the hopes that people will tire of McCain as well. I guess he’s to chicken chit scared to do that.

      • Andy

        Indeed; thougth the quote at Yahoo above was quite telling of the hubris and fear of his campaign.
        Bad formula.

      • Andy

        Indeed; thought the quote at Yahoo above was quite telling of the hubris and fear of his campaign.
        Bad formula.

      • stodghie

        1. obama knows mccain would kick his tush in a debate. imagine that and he a harvard trained attorney and all.
        2. obama is in my humble opinion addicted to the acclaim. he needs it and doesn’t want the ugly job of answering questions. Note the way he treated those aa gents in florida. you don’t like it, then you run won’t get you votes barry.

        now all of this is resulting in obama getting into a difficult position with voters even before the convention. the repubs are just now bringing out the big guns. the dim leadership is beyond stupid in my book.

        • TeakwoodKite

          Do you think BO wants any more Rezko questions?

          Remember the 8 questions he took on that subject? Handled it like a pro.

          BO does not have ANY intention of confronting himself, which is the abyss.

          BO; Magic Mirror, on the wall, who, *now*, is the fairest one of all?
          Magic Mirror: Over the seven jewelled hills, beyond the seventh fall, in the cottage of the Seven Dwarfs, dwells Senator Clinton, fairest of them all.
          BO: Senator Clinton lies dead in the forest. The huntsman has brought me proof. Behold, her heart.
          Magic Mirror: Senator Clinton still lives, fairest in the land. ‘Tis the heart of a pig you hold in your hand.
          Queen: The heart of a pig! Then I’ve been tricked!

          .
          Magic Mirror: This your heart you hold.

    • Annagain

      The problem is, his campaign’s notion is false — Obama is not the “frontrunner” — it would be more truthful for his people to say:

      Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama’s hanging on my a thread.

      • Annagain

        hanging on BY a thread…

        :)

  • fif

    ‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’

    Is this the guy his wife says is the “only one capable of healing our souls?” God help us.

    • Andy

      Can you imagine Barack telling his wife:
      if you do’t like my answers, marry someone else and go live elsewhere…

      • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

        I can see BOTH of them saying that to each other.

        Well, her especially.

      • Mary Lou

        yes I can

    • Tuppence 411

      Remarks like that is why Jesse wants to cut off his nuts! LOL

      • PamFlorida

        Rev. Jackson’s words were rough but I believe his opinion of Obama’s behavior towards AAs is valid. There is likely much discontent (behind the scenes) amongst Obama’s prominent AA supporters. He is gradually throwing them under the bus, one by one. The last ones standing will be from the Chicago Machine.

        • workingclass artist

          Well given that Obama cannot pass up on his compulsive habit of lecturing the AA community on family values while neglecting to mention how he treats Po’ African Granny who doesn’t need Imperialist Plumbing…
          Who could blame him…I DO….Jesse Jackson did what a lot of schmucks did…HE LET HIMSELF BE COERCED BY HIS CHILD INTO SUPPORTING THIS FASCIST !

          • OBSP

            This story is is for Uppity and anyone who wants to know what lenghts this man will go to be POTUS. When barry went to Kenya 2 summers ago, all in the village were excited, not because he was a us senator, but the tradition in Keyna is when the oldest grandchild returns he would have a house build for the eldest (his black grandmother). They were very upset because he offered his grandmother nothing. No house and she was upset about all the media.
            In closing, he did not push her under the bus, he put her under the chicken coop.

            • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

              do you have a link for that? I do not doubt you but want to share and link to give links
              Hell he couldn’t even buy her a damn tv last year they made 4 million dollars but Granny had to borrow a tv to watch him,
              Could have bought her a nice house with plumbing ect instead of donating all the money to TUCC so Wright could get his million dollar house in the gated Community

              • OBSP

                No, this was told to me by someone who went on the trip with him. I really wish someone could get a interview with Alice Palmer, she heard the same story from a friend who was also traveling at the same time.

              • TeakwoodKite

                Lyn, OBSP,

                There were some recent articles about this. This one from the Weekly Standard.

                “http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23520981-details/Barack+Obama%27s+broken+promise+to+African+village/article.do”

        • OBSP

          The Machine is the Driver, they may throw him under the bus.

          • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

            LOL Profound! ;-)

          • Grail Guardian

            ROFLMFAO!

            I’d buy tickets to that!!!!

        • stodghie

          if obambi is elected the first to go will be the chicago machine unless he needs them for kick others in the butt duty.

    • s. hall

      fif — I’m taking bets on how long it will take Obama to start WW3.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    ‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’

    Yup, he’s on the “dry white martini”.

    He’s getting more and more arrogant and snotty. He’s blowing his cork by degrees.

    • simanov

      ‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’

      I don’t think I’ll run for office.

    • s. hall

      uppity — have you noticed how swollen Obama’s eyes are? Either he’s been crying alot or he is on something.

      • Grail Guardian

        Maybe both this week…

        :)

      • Ferdberfle

        I believe it’s called a tantrum.

  • Andy
    • hank48188

      I saw him do a Press Conference in Florida a couple days ago, without that teleprompter he sounds just terrible, he stops talking so often you can’t follow what he’s TRYING to say, and the stammering doesn’t help, especially all the “uhs”. They only want Obama doing teleprompter speeches. I got a Fundraising letter from the DNC yesterday, on the front they used a BONO Quote, “This is our moment, This is our time”. I sent it back with a couple remarks, no money and NO POSTAGE.

      • bert

        ‘I saw him do a Press Conference in Florida a couple days ago, without that teleprompter he sounds just terrible, he stops talking so often you can’t follow what he’s TRYING to say, and the stammering doesn’t help, especially all the “uhs”. ‘

        I wish he would do the town halls. But it will be almost as good to see him in the 3 debates doing just the same thing, ‘ahing’ and ‘umming’ his way through every answer. I wonder if he will give his standard primary response, “I agree with Senator Clinton, ah..um…I mean Senator McCain.”

        These debates will be precious!

      • Annagain

        I have received 6 piece of mail from Obama’s campaign in the last week — so where’s that big fundraising operation of his? Perhaps all is not well in $$$$land.

        I left the party 2 months ago so don’t ask me why they are still writing to me.

        I simply cannot support him.

        • TeakwoodKite

          Michelle Obama sent me one…she had to address me by my first name. How rude.

          It was from the DNC for 5 dollars or more. My response;

          First of all my name is Mr. ____ to you. I would not grant you a first name basis, due to the lack of respect you’ve displayed towards Senator and President Clinton and whole bunch of other Americans.

          According to your Princeton senior thesis this is typical of the “gemmie some “and “scratch his eyes out” racist attitudes you and your husband have.
          So you know, I have voted for Democratic candidates most of my voting life. Not this year. Unless Senator Clinton is put in Nomination and given a role call vote, I will be voting for Senator McCain. I will never vote for Senator Barak Obama.

          [You and] your husband are immoral and indifferent to the suffering of the people in his state senate district, stating he did not know they were FREEZING in Chicago winter. All the while, profiting from the misery of these poor people in his district and having relations with convicted felon Tony Rezko.
          He lied about his relationship with William Ayers a terrorist, he lied about his relationship with Mr. Auchi. He lied about his birth certificate and it very unlikely he is even qualified to run for POTUS under Article II of the US Constitution.

          Senator Barak Obama has violated the Logan Act on three occasions.
          He took an Oath to defend and protect the US Constitution. He has trample that sacred oath and so much more. PUMA.

          • Andy

            Way to go TeakwoodKite !!! Excellent response.
            I hope if not she someone close to her gets ticked. Congrats for it.

  • http://www.belltoll.com belltoll

    I thoroughly dislike obama and his chameleon stances. There is nothing firm about this man other than the fact that whatever he says will CHANGE.

    Furthermore, his mindless followers make me sick. I have been otherwise occupied for a few days, and did not check one of my websites. Yesterday when I signed on, I found about six different posts containing links to black porn, and bestiality porn.

    What kind of sick followers does he have that they would stoop to such trashy tactics. I don’t go to pro-obama sites at all. Why would I?

    • wodiej

      that’s really disgusting. one of his trolls was posting yesterday and said Obama doesn’t need to be a good role model, just good on policies! They’ve got no morals.

      • ddh312

        Well, he’s no good on policies either.

        • ddh312

          And, as we’ve all been witnessing, he’s a flip-flopper to boot.

  • John

    Ed Schultz, last Monday ( I was away on vacation all last week:)

    Guest: “Obama can’t really effectively attack McCain, it would damage his clean-cut image..”

    Schultz: “Know who can attack him? HILLARY! So why doesn’t she get off her fanny and wave the pompoms for Obama?

    1. More evidence of rank sexism by “Progressive” talk radio.

    2. When the hell did Hillary Clinton sign on as Barack Obama’s chief water carrier/apologist/attack dog? Hey Big Eddy, want Hillary to fight Barack’s battles for him? Well FUCK YOU!! Obama wanted the nomination, he can defend HIMSELF, you can NOT make it Hillary’s responsibility to answer McCain.

    God I hate this idiot.

    • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

      Hillary said that she and McCain were qualified to be CIC and barky wasn’t.

      I really think it’s time for Hillary to tell them all to F Off.

      • Grail Guardian

        She has too much class. That’s more Barky’s style.

      • TeakwoodKite

        barky wasn’t.

        for clarity’s sake Senator Clinton said “you will have to ask him. (BO)

        Good luck with that. I would have better luck asking my 8 ball and getting a consistant answer. :)

    • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

      **#&$^#^&want to wring his pimpley pastey fat frog neck&^%$$#

      I HATE ED SHITZ

      about a year ago I sent him an email chastizing his treatment of HILLARY

      he sends me an email saying “defend your candidate” or something as stupid!!!

      His HO (yes I said it) wife must be the biggest EEEEDIOT on the planet (next to, NO I won’t even go there today)

    • OBSP

      I loved Big Ed until he drank the kool aid. Someone should tell Ed that he threw Hillary under the bus next his white grandmother.

      • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

        my X list of radio shows IN ORDER OF HOW I LOVED EM!

        Randi Rhodes
        Mike Malloy
        Stephanie Miller
        Ed Shitz was last because his voice always reminded me of LUSH Rimjob Rush Limpbalz Limburger U know)

        • bert

          The biggest disappointment to me is Thomm Hartman. I always considered hom so intelligent, even a Renaissance man. For a while he claimed to make no endorsement and to be open to the process. That was shattered the day he claimed Hillary darkened Obama’s skin color in a TV ad. That accusation was proved false by several individuals and organizations, chief among them Fact Check. I wrote Thomm and asked for an on-air apology. He never mentioned it nor apologized. I never even received a form letter in response. And I have not listened to Thomm nor Air America again ever since.

          • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

            I thought Hartman was ok but way to calm and peacenikeee for me.

            I liked the others because they seemed to get passionate about their topics which I mostly agreed with after the invasion

            IT was like watching the body snatchers with the whole MEDIA on TV and RADIO

            one after the other

            they became assimilated

            ((((SHUDDER)))) it really is spooky how much they turned into the exact thing they bitched MOST about!!!

            it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so SERIOUS

          • John

            I gave up on Hartmann when he tried to convince me that if all the states were Primaries instead of Caucuses, Obama would be doing even BETTER in the delegate count, because after all, he was winning overwhelmingly in caucus states and if you conflate those popular vote numbers to match the turnout in primaries, gosh, Obama would be winning easily!~

            And never mind that Hillary was doing far better in primaries. Nope, totally irrelevant.

            That’s when I stopped listening to “ignore the facts to match the narrative” Hartmann.

          • Lou

            I call that show “hot air” They blow it out their arse. Why do they repeat their hot air relentlessly?

    • MEchelle Hates America!

      John –

      I love it! It’s still HRC’s fault! Woohoo!!

      I thought HRC was tooooo old to be a cheerleader.

      Schultz needs to tell Oblowme to let The Beard MEchelle out of her cage if he needs protection.

      • PKJayne

        LOL!

    • HARP

      Why not have “good morals” Edwards do the pom pom waving?

      • Annie Oakley

        It would muss his hair.

    • Annagain

      Ed Schultz is a sexist pig among other things. Wave her pompoms, indeed.

      For the last time:

      It is not Hillary’s job to drag this inexperienced, unqualified man’s behind across the finish line – he has had help from every corner and quarter, if he cannot win this by himself, he has no business running in the first place.

      After the way she was treated by the media, by Obama and by Kerry, Reid, Pelosi, Dean and Brazile, she should turn her back on them all. But no, she has even done unity events for him and raised a heckuva lot more for him than he has bothered to do for her.

      She owes him nothing. She owes the DNC nothing.

      SDs have one last chance to wake up and nominate the stronger candidate, who actually can win on her own steam, at the Convention.

      If they choose to take it, good for them. If they choose to ignore the writing on the wall, they will have no one but themselves to blame.

      All the crying, complaining and continued insults from men like Ed Schultz will not alter that fact. Hillary is not Obama’s mother. She should not have to clean up after him.

      Obama also basically said some time ago that if he wins the primary, he will be the toughest guy on the block. Let him prove it and step up to the plate.

      • TeakwoodKite

        T-ball is all BO can manage.

    • WIldChild

      Schultz: “Know who can attack him? HILLARY! So why doesn’t she get off her fanny and wave the pompoms for Obama?

      Why? Because you suggested she get off her fanny and wave the poms poms for BOBO you moron.

    • ddh312

      And, of course, idiots like Ed Schultz want — EXPECT — her to do O-Boy’s dirty work. Unbelievable.

  • maq

    “Hillary Only Suspended Her Campaign.”

    Obama you are “the typical trade-craft of a political operative possessing an extremely limited political resume.”

    You couldn’t even lead a reasonable size Civil Rights March.

    • PamFlorida

      He won’t stick his neck out for anything, certainly not for Civil Rights.

      • OBSP

        I tried to tell my friends around the country (I’m in Chicago) that barry never considered himself AA. He described himself as an american of african descent when he was running against Bobby Rush.

        • Grail Guardian

          Interesting. That might be the only time he’s ever said anything even remotely resembling honesty. Of course, I’m sure there was an ulterior motive. he never speaks without knowing what it can get for him.

        • stodghie

          he changes skin tone in his mind in whatever election he is in.

        • bemused

          I will feel this sorry for BO: I think he is completely confused and alienated from both blacks and whites, and it must be painful to truly be a citizen of the world, belonging to no one. That said, it gives him freedom to play to everyone’s fears and hopes because he isn’t invested in them. Wonder if he feels any roots or loyalty anywhere–or if he is a complete outsider.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    As learned in every previous debate and speech made by Obama, it is strongly suggested that there be people from FactCheck.org there to verify any statements Obama makes, especially on legislation and commitees, considering his inability to tell the truth.

    Obama if confronted with facts always shuts up, so will be very quiet debates if Factcheck.org is there to verify, just a ton of ummm, errs and ahhs by Obambi.

    • beebop

      Hell. When he was unchallenged he put himself on the Banking Committee. Uppity … why not a funny column on how many committee meetings he’s missed?

      • tzada

        Yeah and there was a Democratic “talking head” otherwise known as turkey neck, on PBS singing Obama’s praises for his “faultless” foreign trip. Made me want to vomit.

  • http://pnews.org Hank Roth

    The word in one NY news source is she won’t be signing the request to be nominated. Too bad if true. She would be the best of all America has to offer. She is the smartest and the most competent person and once again Americans can’t get it right. Well, it has got to be McCain. He is moderate and could like Eisenhower be a Democrat or a Republican. His disagreeable positions are to win over his base or he doesn’t get elected. His agreeable positions are better than Obama’s best positions. And staying home will insure Obama a victory. I intend to vote for the veteran. I want a strong defense and hope for a compassionate economic system from a compassionate Republican
    – who knows what it means to defend America.

    Hank Roth
    (past post) Commander, Jewish War Veterans
    http://pnews.org/

  • kinthenorthwest

    I just dont know how any one can vote for Obama any more. One flip was not too bad, but he has been flip floping so much who knows where he stands. Its come to a point that I dont think even his campaign staff is really sure where he stands; much less the Democratic party.

    Im not sure if its just TV but his speeches seem to lack any originality. It seems that most of his speeches have only a few words changed here and there. I have also noticed that its becoming more and more obvious that Obama is relying heavily on telepropters. When the telepropters arent there he has a hard time and repeats himself.

  • Andy

    ani:

    I just finished reading your post in its entirety: it is absolutely excellent!! Thank you.

    I liked Mr Salvato’s quotations and will read his full article later one. Could you give me a bit more info. on him? I am not familiar with the New Media Journal.

    Thank you again!

    • Ani

      Andy,

      Thank you for your comments. If you click on the link to the “article” where it is first mentioned above, there is a bio of Mr. Salvato on the right of the page, next to the article in its entirety.

      • Andy

        Thank you Ani !

  • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

    Did you see who was linked to crashing sites aganist Obama?….surprise IP tracked to Obama’s site
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2055701/posts

    • beebop

      The information there is really frightening. One of these events will make huge trouble for his campaign. His highholiness in the Burger King crown behind the faux seal is HILLarious! Gotta love it.

    • TeakwoodKite

      There is a picture on that page of BO Reid, Pelosi and Clyburn? Take a look at how Clyburn is looking at BO…

      Not friendly.

  • Doris T.

    I’m very upset and I’m requesting No Quarter to please investigate about the Kingdom of Hawaii filing a legal and formal complaint to the United Nations against the United States.

    I’m not sure who has heard about this. There are two Governments in Hawaii.

    The Kingdom of Hawaii

    The United States

    In 2001, the Kingdom of Hawaii filed a formal complaint with the United Nations against the United States for its unlawful occupation since 1898. You can read more at this site:

    http://hawaiiankingdom.org/us-occupation.shtml

    Although the U. S. has considered Hawaii a part of America since 1959, the Kingdom of the Hawaiian government has continued to exist. The site above says that the Kingdom takes precedence in terms of ruling over Hawaii.

    I’m questioning what the legal ramifications will be since this is in no way a trivial accusation. Is Obama allowed to misrepresent his Hawaiian status? All Hawaiian’s from birth must be taught about the sovreignty of the ruling Kingdom. So that he would have been taught that there is the Nation of Hawaii and it doesn’t recognize itself as part of the United States.

    What the heck is going on here? I can’t believe that the DNC doesn’t know about this. Perhaps this is what is holding up Obama’s birth certificate. As a lawyer, he would know there are ramifications under such litigation with the United Nations, but he can play dumb as long as he doesn’t get legal documentation. Even for average citizens ignorance of a law does not apply.

    What would happen if he applies for his official birth record? As it is he has already committed a felony with his forged certificate that had been posted on his website.

    I think there is more here that isn’t being publicized or talked about. I think the American people are being bamboozled.

    Where the heck is Congress and why aren’t they saying anything about this. Why are the DNC and delegates allowing this election to get this far when they know the presumptive nominee is first considered a citizen of the Kingdom of Hawaii and that Nation doesn’t recognize the United States since their formal petition claims illegal occupation since 1898.

    The President is a republican but he is the President and shouldn’t be waiting until October to pull the plug.

    I know I’m speculating at this point, but Obama the attorney may have legal reasons for not going to certain states to debate, for the caucus voting, pulling his name off the Michigan ballot, his flip flops, etc.

    Actually without an official birth certificate, the American people don’t even know for sure if he was born in Hawaii. And, if it turns out he was, where does his allegiance lie. The Kingdom rules Hawaii and only by their permission is any U. S. sanctions granted.

    I’d appreciate anyone being able to shed some light on this important matter.

    against the United States.

    • steven Mather

      Please do not deflect from Ani’s good post and our discussion.

      If you want your post discussed, make it into a blog.

      • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

        can just ANYONE make a blog here?

        hmm,

        • Grail Guardian

          Write it up and submit it to susanunpc@gmail.com If it’s important and coherent, it’ll get posted. I’m not so sure about this topic, though. There are a whole lot of people in Hawaii that are under the impression that they are US citizens.

      • stodghie

        steve, shut up!

        • Lou

          Steve is a trouble making nit picker. He targets posters here instead of participating in the thread.

      • Lou

        ‘scuse me? Posting this stuff about Hawaii is important. Doris. Contact Texas Darlin’ She’s the one who has committe for this. go to her blog texasdarlin

    • roseeriter

      Doris, ignore steve- he’s a troll- they’re trying new tactics. NOBAMA!

      • steven Mather

        Obviously, you do not read my posts or take in NQ radio. I try to prevent trolls from hijacking posts as well as well-meaning others from taking us off a good topic.

        • roseeriter

          Okay then you should have told her to post it in Uppity Woman’s article with Columbo instead of shutting her important statement up.

          I’ve been at NQ for quite awhile and sorry but guess I haven’t noticed you.

          • steven Mather

            Sorry for the friendly fire.

            • imustprotest

              Steven I heard you last night on NQ radio, you were great. You used to post here quite frequently a few weeks ago but haven’t seen you much lately. I’m glad you’re back your comments are always thoughtful and informative.

              • steven Mather

                Thank you. I was holidaying in the Rockies.

        • Lou

          You are not even a US citizen steven Mather. MYOB.

          • steven Mather

            Correct. I am Canadian. Both of my brothers are married to American women. My country is your closest and deepest relation. My province, Alberta, is America’s most secure source of petrochemicals, and our interconnection is growing by the day as Alberta develops her oil sands. If America sneezes, we get a cold. You may recall how our JTF2 snipers kept the Taliban at bay to protect your downed helicopter crew in Afghanistan. You might not know how closely our militaries work together in Afghanistan. Canada is the NATO nation other than America that is bearing the brunt of the Taliban attacks as we are stationed in Kandahar. Soldiers of the Princess Patricia’s Light Infantry are stationed in my city and, sadly, we receive casualty reports on all too frequent basis.

            Our fates are conjoined. We contribute to each other. One of the places I contribute is here.

      • RepublicanChick

        LOL!

        Steven Mather isn’t a troll unless someone hijacked his name, but I’ve read the other postings and they’re too coherent to be an Obamabot.

        • stodghie

          ok steve sorry i thought you were a troll. but the poster made very important points. that doesn’t need to be shut down at any time.

          • Lou

            He’s a Canadian buttinski.
            He can’t vote for US prez.

            • TeakwoodKite

              Lou, respectfully, Steven Mather has posted thoughtful insights and opinions.

              He can’t vote for US prez… and?

  • abycat

    Great post Ani. You have nailed it, again! I think this latest move in refusing to do the town hall meetings he so quickly agreed to in June is going to further erode his support. You are right, I want to see him standing side by side with McCain talking to Americans. I have no interest in listing to a scripted speech read from a teleprompter. None of this would have been exposed if Hillary had not suspended her campaign. I just hope enough SD’s wake up and change the course we are on before it is too late. I hope they read this post.

    • Ani

      abycat, I agree.

      Many were upset that Hillary did not fight on until the Convention. But I strongly believe if she had stayed in, all the focus would have stayed on her and she would have been wrongly painted as a “spoiler” — her daily media flogging would have continued unabated.

      No matter how upsetting the current situaton is, I think it’s very important that the American public get to see Barack Obama in the limelight, standing on his own. Then they can get a picture of who he truly is.

      You are also correct that Americans do not want to see him giving another speech on a teleprompter — it is very cold, distant and canned.

      Voters wants someone to talk to them, honestly, plainly, about how we are going to fix the mess in this country. Unfortunately, I do not think he is capable of doing that, as you others have noted here as well

  • JoseyJ

    On ABC’s This Week today – David Gergen mentioned Obama should rethink his no-Hillary-for-VP position.
    He said it twice!
    Panelist Donna Brazile bristled!

    • John

      Brazile: “Hillary would make um…a great Vice President..in spite of Bill….

      Yeah, that would be a real handicap, having a Vice Presidential Candidate whose husband is the most popular Democrat in the US (and probably most popular ex-politician period.)

      • s. hall

        John — It would be a problem for Obama because there is no way he could fill Clinton’s shoes. And we all know how jealous Obama is of everyone who isn’t him.

      • no waffles aka drkate

        that would be great payback, if I wasn’t so concerned about Obama dragging HRC down.

        In otherwords, Donna Brazile shoved Obama down our throat, now we get to shove hillary down their throat.

        and if Obama is found ineligible to stand as POTUS, HRC wins!

    • Ani

      Interesting — Hillary is supposed to get the job done for Barack that he cannot do by himself.

      Why not just let her do it and ask him to bow out, or in the name of “party unity”, have him as VP.

      Gergen is just basically admitting Hillary was right all along — she is the one who is ready to lead on day one.

      • TeakwoodKite

        Gergen said the same thing on Cnn/GPS.

        • Andy

          what did Gergen say? that HRC should be POTUS? Or just VP?

          • Annagain

            I believe Gergen was saying just VP — but think about it, no one votes for the bottom of the ticket — if that rule is changed because Hillary is on it — what Gergen is saying is that she would be Obama’s angelic version of Dick Cheney, i.e., the one who is really running the show.

            More sexist nonsense from Gergen — she is asked to buoy him. If she is the top of the ticket, she wouldn’t require that kind of help.

            • Andy

              Indeed, I can’t bear the image, idea or fact of seeing HRC subjugated to BO in his ticket. Ugh!

          • TeakwoodKite

            GERGEN: We’re going to need an extraordinary — really extraordinary leadership over the next four years. The problems facing the next president, in my judgment, are the toughest that have faced any president since Franklin Roosevelt was inaugurated in March of 1933.

            The problems then were more obvious, these are below the surface but they’re very complex, they’re very global; so many of them were very global in nature. And we’re going to need a very special leader to succeed here.

            We need someone who is, yes, has integrity and, yes, has judgment, those are obvious, but we’re going to need someone with courage — political courage to face this, and very importantly Anderson, I think far more than what we’ve had in the recent years, we’re going to need a consensus builder, someone who is able to work with parties across the aisle in Washington but also be able to work with other nations and bring them along and build bridges and build coalitions because these issues are going to require a lot of political courage in other nations as well, not just the United States.

            And I also would argue we’re going to need a citizenry that is generous and is willing to make some sacrifices and face up to the harsh realities. We’re going through a tough time.

            “http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/01/acd.02.html”

            • Andy

              Thank you Teak !

  • Clinton Fan

    John McCain wouldn’t be inviting Senator CLINTON to do a series of town halls, because he’s not stupid.

    See, that’s HER venue. She EXCELS at them. She was better than any candidate on either side of the aisle at conducting them. And she stayed, and answered EVERY question, and didn’t give anyone short shrift, and didn’t refuse to address their concerns, or try to pass them off on staffers who pretended to take their details and then didn’t follow up (as happened to a guy at an Obama rally not long ago).

    BUT….that said….McCain isn’t as good as Clinton at the Town Hall format, but he’s MILES ahead of Obama, who can’t even engage anyone about any topic without stepping on his crank…unless, of course, the topic has to do with HIMSELF. He can sing “MEEE MEEE MEEE” all the day long! “I” did this, and “I” like that, and “I” think this, and “I” want that. Sometimes he uses the royal “WE” to break things up, but the unroyal we know he’s talking about “MEEEEEE!”

  • kinthenorthwest

    Did you see who was linked to crashing sites aganist Obama?….surprise IP tracked to Obama’s site
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2055701/posts
    ___________________________________________
    This is why this man scares the crap out of me.

    Did you guys hear about the absentee ballot fraud in Alabama. Apparently they buy ballots off homeless people and drugies. From what the News on TV said it was mainly a small town in Alabama, so they were wondering what was happening in a city like Chicago.
    Here’s a small article I found.
    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/01/voter-fraud-spreading-in-alabama/

    • Heather

      Oh just WAIT til those technocratic thugs get their hands on the electronic voting machines!

      Folks this is big. Obama has proven he’s happy to win by cheating. The story needs to get out, and safeguards need to be put in place. Obama/Dean 50-state strategy and proven coerciveness of Obama operators indicate that they WILL have access to those machines, probably in secret … just blow right past the little old ‘league of women voters’ ladies who usually staff polling places, and do what they damned well please.

      I’ll say it again, this is big.

      • no waffles aka drkate

        totally agreed. Also Dean has made sure that the election officials are now all DEMS who owe their allegiance to Dean and Obama. So we’ve got a problem brewing.

        One strategy is to vote by absentee ballot, to avoid any problems at the voting booth.

        I agree, Heather, this is very serious.

        • Grail Guardian

          Absentee ballots and the military vote will not be counted. Both will favor McCain.

          I also find it interesting that this is the year that all states must comply with the new Federal Election Laws, which means many states will be voting by a new method in November. I’m from NY and we’ve had a flawless system of mechanical voting machines here for over 100 years, and this year we’ll be using some sort of written ballot that very few of us have seen yet. My mother was in one of the statewide focus groups supposedly used to test the accuracy of several different styles of ballot, but she tells me that all but 1 method were eliminated before the results of the focus groups were tabulated, and that it is awful. I can only presume that the timing is not accidental. For the first time in my life, I am worried about my vote not being recorded accurately. There is much more to this than meets the eye.

          This may be a good year to volunteer to work the polls.

      • workingclass artist

        If Obama completes his Fascist gambit….This will shape up to be an epic battle….Obama Hackers vs. Bubba Programmers….
        *** My money is on the Bubba’s….More experienced…LOL ***

    • //Yahoo ALforHill

      kinthenorthwest:

      Did you guys hear about the absentee ballot fraud in Alabama. Apparently they buy ballots off homeless people and drugies. From what the News on TV said it was mainly a small town in Alabama, so they were wondering what was happening in a city like Chicago.
      Here’s a small article I found.
      http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/01/voter-fraud-spreading-in-alabama/

      I live in AL and the last I heard there was actually 8 counties involved that occured during the primaries. It is difficult to get local news reporting this unless you live in Montgomery or access the newspapers or local news from those areas. The fraud involved paying in crack cocaine for votes, money in 20.00, 50.00, to 100.00 payments. Also alot of double voting on absentee ballots in Afro-American communities.

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        It has also been happening in Virginia.

        But in Viginia, they not only use the homeless and the dead to get absentee ballots, they make up totally ficticious voters.

        Voter drives in Virginia were caught submitting registrations with ficticious names. I have not read if/whether charges are being filed, but I don’t know of a more blatant case of voter Fraud.

      • Lou

        Send the fraud info to Dr Lynette Long blog please.

  • workingclass artist

    Aaaaaand we wouldn’t want to say anything to upset the Bristling Commissar Donna Brazeal ! LOL….

  • Andy

    A bit O/T but take a look at this wonderful video of Bill Clinton (released today).

    There seems to be a front page article on the WAsPo as well (haven’t read it yet). His silence and his comments of what happened during the primaris are quite telling!!

    http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5504522

    • alexei

      Now that is change you can believe in!

      • Andy

        Agreed!! Indeed, isn’t that wonderful?

    • s. hall

      Andy — Clinton was great as usual. I am so comfortable with Bill Clinton and it makes me sad to think there was this all out effort to stop Hillary from fixing this country. Bill Clinton called Obama smart and a good politician. This is the kind of reference you give an employee after you fire him. I can’t wait to hear what really went down during this primary season. Bill knows all the dirty little secrets.

      • Andy

        Yep, me too. The fact he is saying that only in January everyone will fee free to speak up about what happened is a bomshell… quite significative imho.

        • Andy

          feel (sorry)

        • Ani

          Truly. Does that mean if things stay status quo with who the nominees are, he knows McCain will win?

          What say you?

          • Grail Guardian

            What say you?

            I say the Clintons have known about Obama’s unelectability from the get-go, and that’s why Hillary ran in the first place. She has stated for almost a year that Obama cannot win the General Election, but has always been reluctant to torpedo a fellow Democrat.

            Remember right before Mark Penn was dumped from the campaign? There were mega rumors about the campaign going very negative, but it never happened. I think he was let go because he planned on “outing” Obama with something the Clintons have known about him for a very long time. Perhaps the eligibility issue, perhaps the Rezko/Soros/Auchi connection, or maybe something more sinister. Hillary held back about Obama big-time, no matter what Axelrod would have his minions believe. She never really attacked him, except in that one CNN debate where she brought up Rezko (and I personally thought she let him off pretty easy on that). She presumed the media or the Republicans would vet him, and that is the one big mistake she made in this campaign.

            I think the Big Dawg wanted to go after Bambi, but he was held back. I think there will be no such restraint after McCain is sworn in, because Bill knows the MSM will be blaming Hillary for the loss.

            • Andy

              I agree Grail Guardian; good analysis.

        • steven Mather

          Bill looked great in the video. When he used the words “hope” and “change” they were filled with such meaning because of the real work he has been doing to bring them about.

      • pew

        He could have meant smart and good Politician,in a devious way.. as in crooked.lol

    • notodisenfranchisement

      alright, I’m a little paranoid because the MSM cannot be trusted, but was there a reason they kept cutting to quotes of Bill Clinton using the words “hope” and “Change.” I’m sure there was enough material in those interviews that they didn’t have to emphasize those words.

      Are they trying to use it later to say it’s Clinton’s code words to support BO? I wouldn’t put it beyond the MSM bastards.

      • Andy

        No, I think he was using them to show people the REAL meaning of hope and change with something concrete; like this is what counts. The rest is cotton candy rubbish rhetoric.

    • PKJayne

      Thanks for the video on Bill. I adore him.

      • Lou

        I saw Big Dawg 3 times on the stump. He needs to stay out of this. Let Hillary handle it. It’s her gig.

    • CheatedFLVoter

      Bill Clinton is a wonderful man. My husband is from AR and we kind of grew up with him politically. We were there at the beginning and I told my husband, one day he will be president. He laughed at me, of course, but I got the last laugh. We campaigned for him and enjoyed every minute of it because we believed in him. He treats everyone just like an old friend. He is truly one of a kind, as is Hillary. I only wish there could be more political figures like them. Maybe some day soon, we will have the honor of supporting Chelsey.

  • Grail Guardian

    Ani – As always, excellent post! We can only hope that more and more are starting to notice the cracks in the B.H.O. Titanic and will call him on the carpet for his constant Lies and Reversals (I’m tired of the polite, albeit whimsical, term Flip Flops).

    I hope they will also spread the above link tracing the DOS attacks to the official Barack Obama website, as his supporters continually wail that it’s not them.

    Those not blinded by the “bright, shiny thing” – the distractions of the hollow rhetoric and media marketing – understand that Obama is a political creation of the Chicago Democrat Machine; the Chicago Daley Machine. He is a slickly choreographed media tool meant to reinvent the image of the Democrat[ic] Party for the 21st Century.

    That made my day! Spot on!

  • Babs

    Funny watching Donna B. on TW try to put a positive spin on Obama’s racial remarks this week – she is so sad and so desperate to get this guy elected. And her little sneer when they mentioned Bill Clinton’s name made me just want to vomit. Bill and Hillary Clinton do more for minorities in this country and around the world in one month than Donna Brazile could ever even hope to do in her lifetime. Desperate, despicible people, this DNC hierarchy, and one reason my vote for John McCain is going to be so darn easy. PUMA.

    • Heather

      You got that right. The Clintons were blindsided by race baiting and I’m happy to see that the McCain people learned the lesson and won’t stand for it.

  • Heather

    “Senator Clinton’s policies, progressive and straightforward from the beginning, would require no waffling now. She would not need to keep her head down. She would not need to back into the job.”

    – In an article with lots of great lines, this was my favorite. I keep coming back to this point: Obama is in the process of becoming the moderate Democrat that he, his campaign, and his hateful followers vilified throughout the primary. Taking up the views and approaches expressed by bloggers who were vilified on dailykos and huffpo throughout the primary. And he is doing these things WITHOUT the experience, WITHOUT the principles, and WITHOUT the articulateness of moderate Democrat they all enjoyed hating so much.

    – Obama is a disgrace.

    • okasha skatsi

      I have to take issue, Heather. Obama’s not showing himself to be a “moderate Democrat.” He’s showing himself to be the Bush-lite neocon he’s always been. A “moderate” Democrat wouldn’t vote for unregulated spying on the American people. A “moderate” Democrat wouldn’t be thinking about privatizing Social Security, or waffling on a woman’s right to choose or saying Blackwater’s gotten a “bad rap.” Barring a miracle at the convention, the choice, except for those of us who will go third party, will be between a neocon and a classic conservative.

      • Annagain

        I can never tell from all his b.s. if he’s a Republican is sheep’s clothing or what. I have thought from the beginning that he is a manchurian candidate.

        I still can’t figure out why he’s really running or where he wants to take this country — or if he even knows.

        Dangerous.

  • JoeVeteran

    It was obvious that Obama’s weakness is “reality”. In all of the Debates, Obama was the real loser. When there were more than two candidates, he could only hide behind contempt for Hillary Clinton with the “boys”. However, when it came to facing Her, he wondered off into lala land and emphasized his own platform talking points while never actually debating the issue raised with Her. Now, Obama faces Him, so he is merely afraid to be seen for the fool that he has become. Obama’s shadow is larger than life. He might discover that he is the Wizard of Oz–a small man–at that end of a long winding road.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    Great post! Thanks, Ani!

  • Clinton Fan

    I think the OBAMA DOS attacks against anti-BHO blogs deserve a separate thread of its own–another poster posted this from a right wing discussion board, but this is the original cite:

    Confederate Yankee notes further possible examples by Obama supporters getting Google to suspend sites for “Terms of Service” violations.

    Instapundit tries to douse the theories, but here is one fact that can’t be explained away.

    On July 22-25 Macsmind was DOS’d (Denial of Service) that originated from three IP addresses that are assigned to Barack Obama’s website. This isn’t a theory but was confirmed via law enforcement through an inspection of the site logs from those dates. The IP address in question; 66.39.4.254 66.39.143.229 216.146.206.181, are all registered via “Go Daddy” under the name barackobama.com.

    On those dates, beginning at At 5:48PM Central on the 22nd, the hosted server that contained our site was hit by a 1.6 gigabyte flood of illegitimate traffic. The attacks never abated and only stopped when our host provider took us off line.

    Speculation is one thing, but facts are another. This time however we’ve taken protective measures to prevent this from happening again. Additionally the investigation will continue and appropriate interstate authorities have been notified.

    http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/08/02/macsmind-hacking-update/

    Never mind “ridin’ dirty”…these bastards are playing as dirty as all get-out.

    Will the MEDIA cover this?

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com Gloria

    Sunday is a great day to catch up…prom queen, I LOVE IT!!!!

    The Past Week…Random Thoughts July 27–August 2, 2008 (Special “Toad Rescue Edition” w/Pic)

    http://tinyurl.com/58ojcm

    Obama inspires me to rescue animals every time I get a beg letter from him! Dogs, toads, etc.
    Maybe being called “Bambi” has something to do with it?? LOL!!!

    This update has some new info on CD-2 candidate Harry Teague D-OIL, who is Richardson’s guy…

  • OxyCon

    From the Salvato article:

    This is the typical trade-craft of a political operative possessing an extremely limited political resume.

    ===

    If you look at Obama’s resume, you notice that he has probably spent more time running for office than he has spent being in office.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      That is very true.

    • Acaha

      You got that right.

      Wouldn’t you think that would worry some people?

  • lusitania

    This article makes reference to John McCain’s demeanor with the audience during some h ard questioning. About two weeks ago I also watched one of John McCain’s town hall meetings broadcast late at night on one of the cable networks. The audience questions were not pre screened and there were a number of questions that were quite hostile in nature. I was amazed at John McCain’s polite and respectful answers to his dissenters, his respect for other people’s different points of view. When he knew he couldn’t answer the question in a way that would satisfy the audience member he just stated his point of view, and why he held that view and moved on in a very calm way. I guess that is why they called his bus the “Straight Talk Express”. I respect him immensely for that. He demonstrates the courage of his convictions and what Joe Lieberman referred to today on Meet the Press as the “strength of decision”, something that Barack Obama just doestn’t have. Hillary Clinton has my vote for sure, but barring that opportunity, John McCain certainly has earned my vote far more that Obama ever could.

    • creeper

      The person you describe in the town hall meeting you saw could just as well have been Obama – polite, respectful, in case of disagreement states his point of view and calmly moves on. Yet you respect McCain immensely, but Obama appears to be anathema to you.

      It seems to me that your vote is decided more on an emotional than a rational level. Otherwise why have Hillary as your first choice and McCain as your second? That makes it clear that issues mean nothing to you.

      • steven Mather

        If issues matter to you, then how can you support a candidate whose policies are written in sand?

        • hank48188

          Well he isn’t Obama, that is my reason and I always liked McCain, doesn’t take earmarks like the rest of the bloodsuckers

          • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

            like the Earmark Obama got for the Hospital that gave his lovely wife a HUGE raise AFTER he became Senator?

          • steven Mather

            hank,

            I was responding to creeper and referring to Obama, whose policies shift with the political winds.

            Steven

      • HARP

        Hillary….most competent

        McCain….. competent

        Barky….. Most incompetent

        Now run along.

        • http://OTliesvideo Lyn

          that is funny after he told the AA guys that asked him what he has done for the AA community, that if they didn’t like him they could vote for someone else or run for office themselves.
          respectfull polite?pfff

      • MEchelle Hates America!

        Creeper –

        I call Bullshit. Oblowme would never do unscripted Town Halls.

        Oblowme is Bush on steroids.

        Oblowme’s so-called “Free Speech” zones are prison cells.

        You have never stated which of Oblowme’s ever changing opinions on anything makes him so glorious in your WORM (What Oblowme Really Meant) riddled world.

      • Ferdberfle

        The issues mean a lot to me and Oblahblah is wrong on every one of them. Does that answer your question, bot?

  • creeper

    It’s not like Barack has to face off against Hillary Clinton – then I could understand him being scared.

    But he wasn’t scared of Hillary – he had an unprecedented number of debates with her.

    Obama’s not scared of McCain as Obama’s no slouch at town hall meetings either – he just doesn’t want to give McCain any additional free press. Let McCain hold speeches in supermarket aisles and the like.

    Obama is in the process of becoming the moderate Democrat that he, his campaign, and his hateful followers vilified throughout the primary.

    It’s pretty standard for a candidate to campaign more towards the middle coming up to the general election – this is even less surprising for a man who said he would reach across the aisle.

    Do people here seriously think that Hillary would not also be campaigning towards the middle at this point?

    • HARP

      Pucker up. There is still room on his left butt cheek.

    • cdo

      LOLS, Hillary already owns the center…thats why Obama supporters demonized her, remember?

      Obama better rethink how many times he is willing to debate. He may want to deny McCain the free air time, but debates serve the ELECTORATE not those running for office.

      Or did you forget about the actual voters? Believe me, Obama is gonna need some.

      • creeper

        LOLS, Hillary already owns the center…thats why Obama supporters demonized her, remember?

        She’d still campaign for them too – Hillary, too, would have needed some actual voters, same as every other presidential candidate.

        But anyway, three presidential debates and one vice-presidential debate has been pretty standard procedure for some time now, far as I recall (I remember it back from Clinton-Bush-Perot, not sure if it went back before that)…

        … and it was never seen as an unusually low number, nor as an insult to the voters.

        But now that you don’t like the guy, business as usual just somehow seems wrong and must somehow feed into the “Obama is arrogant” meme.

        • steven Mather

          Hillary has as many voters as Obama, given the closeness of the count.

          Obama was sold as a master debater. It is telling that he is limiting the number of debates to the minimum, after his earlier bravado about the town halls with McCain, especially because McCain is seen as weak on his feet and that he will have to defend the Republican record. If Obama is not confident against a weak Republican McCain, it speaks volumes about him, and you.

        • John

          So, Obama’s positions mean nothing to you, and never did. It was always about voting for the black guy in the expensive suit. Get it.

    • steven Mather

      Do not conflate the number of forum appearances they shared with the actual number of one-on-one forums that they did. Given their actual number of one-on-ones, your unprecedented claim is empty.

      Further, Hillary would have no need to move to the center because she is center-left. She voted against FISA, for example. Hillary can run on her record, a record she is continuing to build that is based upon promises kept.

      • creeper

        Do not conflate the number of forum appearances they shared with the actual number of one-on-one forums that they did. Given their actual number of one-on-ones, your unprecedented claim is empty.

        Is it normal to have twenty-odd debates during the primary season? Far as I recall, it was unprecedented.

        As for one-on-ones, obviously the attendance at the debates reflected who was still in the running.

        Further, Hillary would have no need to move to the center because she is center-left.

        … which only confirms that she would also have confirmed towards the middle in the general election campaign, doesn’t it? You’re merely adding that she was already closer to that to begin with. But in the general election it’s standard to slug it out over the middle.

        • steven Mather

          Please do not distort my words to suit your meaning.

          You said it was normal for candidates to move to the center, which is what Obama has done. I did not disagree.

          You said Hillary would also have moved to the center. I disagreed. I said she would not have to move and for that reason she could continue to build upon her record of promises kept.

      • Lou

        Do not conflate the number of forum appearances they shared with the actual number of one-on-one forums that they did.

        Do you have to boss people on this blog? Don’t you have any interests in your own country steve?

        • steven Mather

          Please respond to what I said above, Lou, as it makes no sense for me to chase you around with cut and paste.

    • http://none Peg

      Your first political campaign, eh?

      • creeper

        Nope, been following them since about 1988.

        • WIldChild

          Cool, when will you start paying attention?

    • Ferdberfle

      HRC was in the center the entire time. You don’t get out much, do you?

  • Doris T.

    This is priceless:

    It might require Senator Obama to roll up his sleeves a bit more than he has to this point. His impatience was much in evidence the other day when dealing with hecklers in Florida:

    ‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yourself.’

    …………….

    Well I know I’ll be voting for another candidate and I, like the people in Florida, do not need Obama’ permission to do so.

    Obama cannot debate, he won’t have his teleprompter.

    There were probably people in that Florida audience that have had more experience than Obama and could run for office.

    Obama’s elitist/arrogant attitude doesn’t work because he can’t back it up with intelligent dialogue. No wonder so many governments outside the United States are rallying behind him.

    They are salivating at the thought of bringing him down to his knees and trying to use the U.S. as their puppet. These countries can’t wait to benefit from his Global Poverty Tax and all the other shoddy and behind the scene agreements Obama will make (if elected) while selling out America.

    Since he thinks McCain is too old, then he shouldn’t have any problem with debating him because he believes he can run circles around him. Yet, Obama didn’t refuse the endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy who is at least 5 years older than McCain, hmmmm.

  • untilthelastdogdies

    Prom Queen indeed.

    Perfect moniker for him, just perfect!

    • yttik

      After listening to some of these pundits go on and on about his visit to the gym and their warm tingles, sometimes I think porn queen might be more appropriate.

  • cdo

    McCain is vetting a VP possibilty that could really turn this campaign on its ear…VA Rep. Eric Cantor.

    from politico…”Cantor is one of the nation’s most prominent Jewish Republicans; he has impressed the McCain team by becoming a prolific fundraiser for the campaign.
    A young fiscal conservative who could help keep Virginia from tipping blue, Cantor could also be an asset in battlegrounds such as Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. He has shown appeal to the party’s base as well as to independents, and would be an unconventional choice at a time when McCain is looking to add excitement to his campaign.”

    • stodghie

      considering obama’s association with people who show an active dislike for israel, i’d say that is an interesting choice. i really expected romney. i don’t know much about him yet but i’d like to see some reviews. as to obama’s choices, all i can say please not hillary. let her save powder for another day. the rest? they’ll have to have a thin resume so our prom queen doesn’t feel so insecure.

  • politicsIsdirty

    As they say in Basketball, “freezing the ball”. But that is among players and coaches. A sports that doesn’t affect millions of people.

    The job of Presidency is a totally different one. You cannot adopt the “freeze the ball” attitude. You always need to have an aggressive and active role. Never buckling down to pressure nor turning away from challenges – even small challenges as debating an opponent in a town hall meeting.

    I guess if a person’s conviction and character is really not that strong, he tends to shy away from situations where he will expose his weaknesses.

  • roseeriter

    O/T

    New documentary coming out soon about voter fraud in the caucuses:
    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/the-audacity-of-democracy-teaser/

    The Audacity of Democracy Teaser

  • PKJayne

    ‘If you don’t like my answer, you can vote for another candidate or run for office yoursef.’

    I’m glad Barry won’t have any hard feelings when I vote for McCain.

    PUMA

  • yttik

    Backtrack Barack backing into the presidency? That’s a tongue twister. I’m afraid he’s not going to be able to back into anything with those poll numbers.

    He’s a lot like Bush. Bush runs off to vacation and his approval rating goes up. It’s when he’s actually on the job that we don’t like him. Same with Obambi, the more you see of him, the less you like. No wonder he’s going Bawak, bawk-bawk like a chicken over the thought of debates.

  • Peggy Sue

    Really good post, Ani.

    After I read this one, I popped up onto “American Thinker” [I like getting a 360 deg. perspective]. In any case, there’s a fascinating article by a Mark Lajoie, entitled “Barack, Meet Wendell.” Wendell Wilkie to be exact, a Rebublican candidate in 1940, who like Barack Obama came out of nowhere, caught the public’s imagination, specifically with several Town Hall radio addresses and managed [over the course of the campaign] to waffle on all his early stands. Wilkie was young [48], inexperienced, and considered an attractive and charismatic speaker.

    Though he managed to oust the more likely Republican nominee [Tom Dewey] he lost to FDR, a landslide loss, winning only 10 states.

    Though I’d heard about Wilkie, I knew little about the man or his candidancy. But the similiarites are somewhat eerie. The cult of personality in this country is nothing new, the author tells us. More chilling:

    “The choices Wilkie made in the crucible of the campaign revealed that his lack of experience as a fatal flaw. He was not a champion of any one unshakeable principle in the end, but an untried celebrity riding a cultural wave. If he had been elected, it would probably have been catastrophic.”

    The cultural wave the author speaks of is the substantial public opposition to US involvement in “Europe’s War,” WWII. Had the Americans not joined the Allies? History would have been far different, I imagine.

  • creeper

    Well I know I’ll be voting for another candidate and I, like the people in Florida, do not need Obama’ permission to do so.

    He wasn’t giving permission, obviously.

    Obama cannot debate, he won’t have his teleprompter.

    Obama does well in debates, carefully thinking through his answers.

    There were probably people in that Florida audience that have had more experience than Obama and could run for office.

    You should read up on Obama’s experience sometime.

    Obama’s elitist/arrogant attitude doesn’t work because he can’t back it up with intelligent dialogue. No wonder so many governments outside the United States are rallying behind him.

    Intelligent dialogue is exactly what Obama’s supporters value in him, both in the US and abroad. After eight years of Bush, he is seen as a refreshing change.

    They are salivating at the thought of bringing him down to his knees and trying to use the U.S. as their puppet. These countries can’t wait to benefit from his Global Poverty Tax and all the other shoddy and behind the scene agreements Obama will make (if elected) while selling out America.

    Nonsense. Obama has already made it clear that he will expect Europe, for example, to pull more of their own weight.

    Since he thinks McCain is too old, then he shouldn’t have any problem with debating him because he believes he can run circles around him.

    Which is exactly why he agreed to debate McCain the same as any other presidential candidate has done in recent history.

    Yet, Obama didn’t refuse the endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy who is at least 5 years older than McCain, hmmmm.

    “Hmmm”… hmmm what? Would you equate what is required to be president for four years with what is required to make an endorsement? Not sure how this logic is supposed to add up.

    • cdo

      Actually creep, YOU should read up on Obama’s experience sometime, believe me it won’t take long.

      Debates serve the voters, not the candidates. Please try to wrap your brain around that concept.

      Obama’s debate performance thus far, whether one thinks it good or bad, depends on what your expectations are. If you simply don’t want your candidate to screw up, he can do that by saying as little as possible. And that is what we have seen so far from Obama.

      In the 2 debates (I am only counting the Obama/Hillary debates) Hillary kicked Obama’s ass in her knowledge of the issues and her ability to rattle off well thought out positions at the drop of a hat. Obama hemmed and hawed his way thru tortured responses, falling back into his stump speech whenever possible.

      Obama needs now, more than ever, to prove to voters he is capable of the job he is seeking. In that light, he needs the debates much more than McCain needs free air time.

      • creeper

        … and he has agreed to the debates. McCain hasn’t yet, by the way. And the debates are perfectly in line with previous numbers of debates going back 20 years or so.

        So what’s the problem? Three debates was always seen as perfectly fine. Why is it suddenly a sign of contempt?

        As a side note, I disagree with your assessment of Obama’s debating skills, but that’s up to personal interpretation, I suppose.

        • WIldChild

          BOBO should really try for more. It’s going to take him the first three to work through his stuttering.

        • stodghie

          debate? obama can’t debate. that is clear. i am a former debater in school and i know what it is and isn’t. a debater would know how to hold a town hall meeting. obambi is afraid of them. when he took a whooping in one of the last debates, he ran away chicken that he is.

          • TeakwoodKite

            Obama gets his but kicked every single time he goes mono e mono. When he starts yelling to verbally gain the upper hand he loooooooses

            Loooooooooser!

    • John

      Obama has shown in his debates that he’s very capable of looking thoughtful and pausing before repeating in slightly different words what Hillary just said. When Hillary doesn’t speak first? God help him.

    • Mandelay

      Anyone who watched the one on one debates between Clinton and Obama should know that Obama is a poor debater. She always answered first… he often incorporated her answer into his remarks with a “I agree with Sen. Clinton” …. and it was embarrassing to watch him. What I could not understand is why, with so many debates over such a long stretch, he did nothing to improve his debating “skills.” The Clinton-Obama debates were a big factor in turning me into a dedicated Clinton supporter. I had started out in 2004, after hearing his address at the convention, as an Obama supporter, and delighted to be one. But growing increasing frustrated at his empty speeches, and very concerned with his associations in Chicago, I changed my mind. I’ve read hundreds of articles written by Chicago reporters during the last three years, in the Trib and the Sun-Times, that have convinced me he is corrupt. I also am shocked and very disappointed that the media did not pick up the investigative reporting from the Chicago papers and the t.v. stations. I would not be shocked if he were to be indicted in the Operation Board Games case. In four years, from my initial delight with him in 2004, I’ve arrived at a point, today, where I am convinced that Barack Obama is not only the wrong person for the office of POTUS, he is also unfit for any office. As a lifelong Democrat, I am sad and angry over the party’s “makeover” in the Obama era. Under the images of big crowds and the rock star aura, it’s a sad time for the United States. It would have been grand to have the first African-American President, from either party. With Obama, it’s nothing more than a grand illusion.

      • WIldChild

        Hillary sold me by the third debate. She owned that stage. The only stage BOBO owns is the one he’s on all by his lonely.

  • creeper

    Looking through the comments here, it seems there are an awful lot of Republican sockpuppets running around. Unless you guys are getting paid, you might want to rethink whether you’re actually persuading anybody. The commenters on either side of you are probably just Republican sockpuppets too.

    • yttik

      Nope, many life long Democrats here, myself included.

      • creeper

        And let me guess… you’ll vote for McCain.

        • WIldChild

          Good guess. Let me guess, LOL that makes us republicans.

          • creeper

            Not far from it. If you agreed with Hillary on the issues, why would you vote for McCain?

            If you previously wanted to vote for Hillary and now want to vote for McCain, then I’ll have to conclude you’re either a recent defector (and have changed your mind about some issues?) or you’re a Republican pretending to be a defector, i.e. a sockpuppet.

            • WIldChild

              I am voting for McCain because divided is the only defense a liberal has when there isn’t a liberal on the ticket. I’ve had enough of light weight chief executives unchecked by a rubber stamp congress.

        • Mandelay

          I am voting for McCain to defeat Obama. I feel comfortable dong this because I believe John McCain will never deliberately harm the U.S.A. I feel it’s critical to defeat Obama; he has destroyed everyone and everything in his path (including his own past) to get to the White House. He is unfit for office. Not all McCain voters are Republicans; many will be lifelong Democrats; not the Reagan Democrats but a new segment of the Democrats. It’s as easy to label McCain voters as 100% Republican as it is to label those who disagree with Obama as “racist.” Both assumptions are wrong.

    • WIldChild

      Look ladies and gents! Huffy Poo has graced us with an overflow BOBOweenie

      • creeper

        And here’s one now.

        • HARP
          • creeper

            I am home.

            • WIldChild

              Huffy Poo pooped you out eh. LOL they’ll do that.

              • creeper

                Can’t say I hang around HuffPost.

                • WIldChild

                  It’s easy to say when you’re here.

                  • creeper

                    Not sure what that’s in reference to.

                    • WIldChild

                      Think about it. It’ll come to you. Maybe… after the kool aid induced hysteria works its way out of your system.

        • no waffles aka drkate

          creepy anchovy troll.

          guess you’re worried aren’t ya?

          Headlines November 5 2008: “Barack Obama loses in historic landslide to John McCain”

          • creeper

            Worried about what? I very much doubt we’ll be seeing that headline, and if you agreed with Hillary about the issues, you wouldn’t want to see that headline either.

            • WIldChild

              You’re probably right. BOBO will lose but it won’t be by a landslide

            • steven Mather

              I tried agreeing with Barack on the issues, but my old body lacked the flexibility and dexterity to keep up with his rapid policy shifts.

              Do Obamabots get chiropractic adjustments as part of their benefit package?

            • Annagain

              McCain has nore to offer by comparison to Obarky anyday.

              Obama is a dangerous charlatan who is pompous and unqualified.

              We have already had 8 years of an unqualified bully. That didn’t work so well.

              McCain is no neocon nor is he not a chickenhawk either. He was vilified by his own party 8 years ago because he is a moderate. Stop selling koolaid.

              If you won’t let us have Hillary, we have no choice but to vote for McCain, sit home or vote third party.

              Wrong is wrong — whether or not Barack has a (D) after his name.

            • http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-dont-trust-bloggers-because-people-lie/ Kelly

              OF course, he agrees with some of Hillary’s issues. A broken clock is right twice a day. The problem is that a voter cannot depend on anything he says.

              See how he recently redefined the meaning of reparations so he could get out of saying that he does not support reparations even after he just said it?

              He is so used to saying whatever it takes to earn applause in the moment. His handlers go in behind and then explain what he really meant to say to those who are paying attention.

              Plus- no one picks a candidate because of what other countries want. Are you mad?

              He ran on all lefist issues and now he has changed everything. He is just a mutation. I do not trust mutants. I never trusted Bush and I do not trust obama.

              I think you confuse party affiliation with religion. There is no other explanation for your faith in a symbol.

    • steven Mather

      A creeper is a parasitic plant, so you are aptly named. Your comments, like your candidate, appear to have substance, until they are scrutinized.

      You have some word-crafting ability, but you are full of yourself, like your candidate. Your pathetic attempts at wit are little more than junior level ad hominem attacks. They demonstrate your lack of wisdom. Your empty, arrogant pronouncements are useful to us, however, because they remind of us of the Obama campaign’s pompous attitude that foolishly confuses undeveloped talent with practical wisdom.

      • creeper

        That’s pretty funny – you accuse someone else of making empty, arrogant announcements with an empty, arrogant announcement of your own. If you have something to say or disagree with something you said, by all means let me know.

        • steven Mather

          Our exchange on the number of debates, moving to the center, and Hillary’s ability to stay rooted in her position because she already is center left stands as an example of what we should do.

          Others dissected your other point-by-point claims, so I didn’t bother.

          Your name-calling and insults that refer to us as “Republicans,” “sockpuppets,” people that use emotion rather than reason to choose, people who do not care about issues, and allude to us as being dupes, are evidence of your ad hominem stylings.

          Lastly, how can I not make fun of someone who makes fun of us and says that we are fools for rejecting Obama because he is the same on issues as Clinton, when Obama’s policies change with the polls, and we know what happened on FISA?

        • MEchelle Hates America!

          Actually it was insightful. And timely. I was just trying to think of that crappy weed that gets in gardens.

          It tries to ruin every good thing.

    • Peggy Sue

      Sorry, lifelong Democrat here from a long line of Democrats. But I will not walk off a plank because the Party tells me to. That’s the essence of a sockpuppet!

      • creeper

        That’s the essence of a sockpuppet!

        Umm, no: “A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. In its earliest usage, a sockpuppet was a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet.”

        • WIldChild

          yup, you’re a Huffy Poop

        • http://Dinocrat gardenvariety

          God, Creepy, you are an idiot, aren’t you? I know it’s hard to believe, but some democrats actually do take these elections seriously, do the research and think for themselves – they don’t need the democratic party talking points in order to come up with the decision of whom to vote for.

    • Nader Rox

      And your logic?

      Does it matter in the end if we are:
      dems voting for McCain?
      repubs voting for McCain?
      indies voting for Nader?

      all adds up to the same = NoBama

    • John

      Ah here we go, the “if you are not for Obama you are a Republican” line. Well, kiss my ass. I’ve voted for Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore and Kerry in the time I’ve been eligible.

      This “With Us or Against us” BS is getting really old. We think for ourselves here. We don’t vote for people just because they call themselves “Democrats.” Sorry your political acumen is so limited you can’t think critically about the candidates you support, but it does make you a perfect recruit for the Obamabot bandwagon.

    • stodghie

      ah, name calling the last and most often used excuse for a bot with nothing left to claim or say.

    • MEchelle Hates America!

      It did take this troll longer than usual to reach the old stand by of calling folks the dreaded “Republican” label.

      It’s creeps like you and the Oblowmes whho make it an honor to vote Republican.

      Tell your turd friends to stop begging us for funding.

      Surely your magical Messiah doesn’t need crass cash.

    • TeakwoodKite

      You resemble that remark, based on the “notion” that BO IS Bush in all respects.

  • Vanessa

    Yes yttik! First visit here-I like what I see, and you don’t have Brian from Trail Mix! DNC and Obama should go down in a sea of flames. DNC should not have shut out MI and FL. Obama is a lightweight. Dems we deserve to lose this time!

  • Annie Oakley

    Thanks, Ani.

  • cdo

    Gee I just love trolls. And I love being insulted by them. Makes it so much easier to keep my vote far far away from them.
    Yes yes, anyone who won’t vote for Obama is a winger repub and a card-carrying member of the KKK. Thank you for that insight for the UMPTEENTH time. It never gets old, no matter how many times I hear it.
    Did you want to add a sexist comment now? Or perhaps an observation about my age?

    • steven Mather

      I think he covertly covered the sexism part when he accused us of making emotional choices, rather than being rational. I imagine that creeper thinks Women’s Studies is something people do on porn sites.

      • creeper

        Are you suggesting that women are not capable of making rational choices, or that men are not capable of making emotional choices? Kind of sexist, don’t you think?

        And by the way, interesting fantasies you have about me.

        • WIldChild

          Oh great, another BOBOweenie in love with himself.

          • creeper

            Thanks for conceding the point about your sexist remark.

            • WIldChild

              in love with himself and delusional Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

              • John

                You see this in so many blogs- Obamabots can’t argue points, start thrashing around, and then begin to engage in sexual innuendo in order to shock and embarress the people who are running circles around them into silence. I gave up on Taegan Goddard’s Political Wire a long time ago because so many of the regulars there would get frustrated quickly and post things like “you’re gay” and “you’re in love with me” and think they were being clever.

                Hey, it worked in seventh grade, right?

                • WIldChild

                  I think your average fringe-oid
                  (right or left) froze emotionally somewhere between the sixth and seventh grade and has been locked in that emotional mind ever since.

            • stodghie

              we aren’t making sexist remarks, you are. so just trying to take a statement and turn it around shows you to be a. a poor debater. b. an uninformed bot.

        • steven Mather

          Nice try at blaming the victim, creeper. Obviously, you are better than a rookie.

          You said to Lusitania (a female name) that we are emotional choosers, whereas you are a rational chooser. PUMAs are caricatured in the media as a group of disgruntled women over 40. It is reasonable for me to infer that you are using the emotional/rational, female/male binary to inform your decision making, though it is possible I’m wrong (you could be female). Nonetheless, given the sexism in the primaries, I’m comfortable with my potentially false assumption about you because you were not astute enough to recognize the import of your words in the PUMA context, creeper.

          Given the binary you employed, the Women’s Studies quip flowed naturally.

          • creeper

            To tell you the truth, I don’t look to online names as indicators of gender (even yours), since anyone can type anything in that box. In addition, I’ve never heard a person called Lusitania, and the only association I’d make is the famous ship. I wouldn’t draw conclusions about the poster’s gender from that…

            … nor would I adapt what I was saying if I ever did suspect a poster was male or female.

            Nice try at blaming the victim, creeper.

            Victim? What victim? Victim of what?

            I don’t equate emotional choosers with women at all (nor rational ones with men), nor AFAIK did I indicate any such distinction in what I posted.

            • steven Mather

              In terms of blaming the victim, you accused me of sexism, after using the emotional/rational dichotomy, which is a meat-and-potatoes, sexist notion.

              Further, my point that this is a PUMA site holds. The media’s caricature of PUMAs has a degree of truth, which is why it can work as a caricature, so an astute person would avoid the emotional/rational, you/me distinction because of its potential sexist implications.

              I’m gentle. I looking forward to your introduction to Uppity, Reverend Amy, StrawberryBitesBarky, or Sugar.

              • TeakwoodKite

                :)

    • creeper

      Um, how did I insult you?

      I did not say that anyone who won’t vote for Obama is a winger repub, KKK etc. However, when a whole bunch of people get together saying they once fervently wanted Hillary to win and now will vote for McCain over Obama, I strongly suspect that a bunch of them are people who would have voted for McCain anyway and are now only feigning Hillary love to gain better traction among the others – hence, Republican sockpuppets.

      And by the way some people are getting upset about this, it sure looks like I’ve struck a nerve. If you’re not one of them, there’s no reason for you to feel addressed.

      And what’s with this non sequitur: how did you make this leap from what I actually said to sexism or ageism?

      • WIldChild

        Listen, if you’re on the lookout for people masquerading as something they are not, you need look no further then your beloved BOBO.

        • creeper

          Tee-hee.

          • WIldChild

            hmmm anybody, what was that BOBOweenies name that was here the other day who was locked in their bell of the ball fantasy? LOL they giggled just like that.

    • creeper

      Did you want to add a sexist comment now? Or perhaps an observation about my age?

      If you tell me your gender and approximate age, I’ll see what I can do.

      • stodghie

        hey creep, you are getting away from your script and really making a fool of yourself.

      • MEchelle Hates America!

        I thought you carnies just guessed weight.

  • Steve

    Well can you imagine the unscripted and unplanted questions this charlatan would get. What about your original B/C? What about your alleged Limo ride with Larry Sinclair? Where are your medical records?
    Could you explain your dealings with the Tony Rezko and the Chicago Combine? Why are there so many distortions of the truth in your book, Audacity of Truth? (lies). What is is your your true position in regards to Nafta? Why is your campaign accepting funds from Gaza, possibly, Hamas? What is your real birth name? Explain why your campaign is involved in strying to shut down free speech on the internet?
    And it goes on……..No wonder he is chicken!

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    I would love to see McCain continue his weekly Town Halls, and place an empty cahir for Ibama on the stage.

    Even better, McCain could have a cardboard cutout of Ibama holding a sign with all of Ibama’s quotes about how he looks forward to debating McCain “anywhere and anytime”, and having a “Shootout” like Ibama’s distant cousin Wild Bill Hicock.

    Hell, the cardboard cutout would actually perform better than Ibama, and will never stutter.

    • Annagain

      Empty chair. Good one.

    • MEchelle Hates America!

      How about a friggin wheelchair since Oblowme likes Ludacris do much?

    • http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-dont-trust-bloggers-because-people-lie/ Kelly

      Excellent idea about the chair!

  • Dan R.

    I am very encouraged by what I’m seeing in this forum and elsewhere. The tide of public opinion definitely seems to be turning against Obama. People are finally starting to wake up to who and what Barack Obama really is and what a Barack Obama presidency would mean for this country: a radical turn to the socialist left and curling into the fetal position on national security.

    Vote McCain.

    Please.

  • Concerned Grandma

    Does anyone have a list of the Senators that are backing Obama?

    I just watched a part of the Senate on CSPAN about the hiring of un-qualified lawyers in the Justice Dept. All of the Senators that were asking the questions were Dems and they were asking if there were any charges that could be brought against these people for not disclosing their qualifications to hold these offices. I thought this was very funny coming from them.

  • wodiej

    First, town hall style debates won’t give Obama the adoring crowds he likes. Second, he won’t easily be able to dodge questions like a typical debate because during those the media/moderators let Obama off the hook very easily. If he doesn’t want to do more than 3, that’s fine. It just shows he has reason to be afraid. 3 debates are enough for everyone to see how unqualified he is. He won’t swiftboat Republicans I’ll tell you that. Make no mistake, throughout this whole nominating process Obama and his supporters are not afraid to stoop to any low down level such as claiming they don’t have the new book in stock. Expect more of the same after the convention and up to the GE.

    • creeper

      If he doesn’t want to do more than 3, that’s fine. It just shows he has reason to be afraid

      Were George Bush, Bill Clinton, Ross Perot, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, Al Gore, John Kerry all afraid? Because they all did three presidential debates, and it was deemed ample.

      • WIldChild

        except for Bush, they didn’t burn up valuable time stuttering, stumbling, staring at the lint in their navel after the question was asked..

      • Steve

        creeper…Man, don’t you have a life? You are not convincing anyone! Except making our resolve firmer. BoBo is toast! Put your anaylical skills to investigating B/C issue, His Nafta position, his flip-flopp on Nasa. I guess BOBO is just a panda bear. Something he accused Hillary of doing.

        • creeper

          Can’t believe you guys’re still going on about the birth certificate, Tony Renzo etc. Wow. And you want to know if I have a life? Who do you think you might be convincing?

          Have a nice day in the echo chamber.

          • WIldChild

            LOL I love how they throw out that last insult right before they scamper away.

          • stodghie

            creep, is that the best you can do? you get a low troll rating mark from me.

          • MEchelle Hates America!

            It’s 16 counts of public corruption

            convicted felon Tony “The Fixer” Rezko

            homey to Oblowme

            and it’s clear that you have no clue what you’re talking about.

      • Acaha

        Yes, the problem with that is that is was Obama who said he was happy to meet anytime, anywhere and face off with McCain on the real issues.

        I thought he was the NEW KIND OF POLITICS?????

        You know, a new way of doing business, more transparency in government.

        Guess not.

        Sorry. You can’t have it both ways here. Either he’s an old style politican or not. If he is — then he really has nothing to run on because his record is paper thin and he flip flops daily.

        He’s terrified without his teleprompter and adoring crowd.

        • Steve

          Acaha, BoBo does have it both ways, Larry Sinclair. Lol!

      • steven Mather

        Out of these candidates, only Obama put himself in the position of backtracking to three because he, along with McCain, offered the promise of a wonderful set of town halls in addition to the three debates. The idea captivated many of us, especially because of Obama’s vaunted oratory skills. If Obama had not created the expectation, this would not be an issue.

  • America OUR Land

    Barky’s problem is he has so much ability to lead and divide a “Nation” he doesn’t need to debate McCain. Barky is the poster child for divide,flip then flop.

    Barky did the people in Florida and Michigan bad now he’s in Florida trying to get them to support him….Barky is barking up support to divide us more and more……Barky can’t debate cuz he can’t remember his last flipper he did so today he is catching up on how to screw his way into the Oval office……

    I hope people doesn’t forget Barky wasn’t elected but selected by the corrupted DNC and Dr. knows nothing Howrd Dean and playmates….Pelosi should be spewing and pissing today after Barky hung her out the window……”HA” “HA” ! Way to go there Barky boy you made a hell of an impression on Pelosi…..

  • Cahil

    Nice post.

    Obama is a prime example of affirmative action at its worst. The idea that we need to promote someone to the highest office as a symbol to the world is tantamount to saying O.J. was innocent.

    People complain that he won’t debate McCain, but how can he when he doesn’t know what the real issues are? Besides, when you’re on both sides of every issue, as he seems to be, which position do you take?

    Why do you think the MSM went after Hillary all the time? She made him look bad. The MSM need candidates like Bush and Obama because they’re the only candidates the MSM are smarter than.

  • Zenia K. Loggins

    I am a senior black woman and would like to see a woman, black or latino as president in my lifetime. Obama is not the man. He has no resume, or no evidence of leadership roles/results or evidence that he served the community well in the districts he represented in Chicago. It is embarrassing to me to listen to him claim credits for others accomplishments, mistake historical events and information he should be familiar with, and stumble in his speaking and answering questions on the campaign trail. Believe me, there are better ethnic representatives in this country than Barrack Obama. Watching the video of him attempting to answer the young people in Florida but putting them down without a good response cemented my opinion of him. I will not vote for a person just because he is a black. This country is too important to me.

    • Ani

      Zenia,

      Thank you so much for stating your views. That is exactly the problem with his candidacy in a nutshell.

  • bmc

    Let Chuckie T know that IOwnMyVote, PUMA and JustSayNoDeal is more than a few Clinton operatives in Manhattan.

    We are everywhere. We know what you did, DNC. And, we’re not letting you get away with it.

    Let Chuckie T know: It’s time to be afraid; be very afraid. We are everywhere.

    http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/hey-chuck-todd-we-are-everywhere-be-afraid-be-very-afraid/#comment-85748

  • BubbaHyde

    Teleprompters don’t play well at town hall meetings, it drags them out when his advisors have to come up with answers to questions, and then que them up for him to read.

    He has no clue what his positions are, how to fix anything or what he would actually do, other than “be President”. He has personally said he is running for President because being a Senator is “too hard” and this when he doesn’t even hold committee meetings, imagine how hard it would be if he did his job.

    Other than that, his arrogance is starting to overwhelm even the folks that bought into the original bullcrap. Add all this up, and he is too busy telling everyone how great a President he would be, or pretending to be President already, to meet with any of the little people.