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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9631</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walmart is gonna gitcha, gitcha, gitcha.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart is gonna gitcha, gitcha, gitcha.<br />
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9630</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This link says things in a different way:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ratical.org/corporations/demoBrief.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ratical.org/corporations/demoBrief.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This link says things in a different way:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ratical.org/corporations/demoBrief.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ratical.org/corporations/demoBrief.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9629</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxes are a mess.  No argument here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes are a mess.  No argument here.<br />
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t talking about justice, Kim. That&#039;s a whole different debate.

Cultural empowerment can only be measured in ascetics.

P.S. I missed out the &quot;administration of taxes&quot; in my listing of &quot;rich advantages&quot; (these can include taxes that are removed - land, inheritance, gains, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about justice, Kim. That&#8217;s a whole different debate.</p>
<p>Cultural empowerment can only be measured in ascetics.</p>
<p>P.S. I missed out the &#8220;administration of taxes&#8221; in my listing of &#8220;rich advantages&#8221; (these can include taxes that are removed &#8211; land, inheritance, gains, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9627</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the cheap shot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the cheap shot.<br />
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God, our society is unjust because the poor don&#039;t have &#039;art&#039;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God, our society is unjust because the poor don&#8217;t have &#8216;art&#8217;?<br />
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9625</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reitired &amp; Kim, I am not sure what your drive is.

I think Senator Webb used the term &#039;our stocks&#039; to emphasis what [in his opinion] should be, agrandising the divide between &quot;rich&quot; and &quot;poor&quot;. Yet the poor have actually become better off, as it were, by default. And at the moment the war is between the &quot;middle classes&quot; and the rich. 

Most of the poor will be able to clutter their lives with useless junk peddled to them by the rich. And they will become fulfilled in their determination to allow ignorance to prevail. Who does set value?

Landmark property, key artworks, items of historical SIGNIFICANCE, rare coins, stamps in optimum [choice] condition only ever seem to accrue in value. These have become the real assets, the long term assets. How many great artworks are in the hands of the humble classes?

Very few people don&#039;t have TVs, fridges, washing machines, even microwave ovens. Their possessions may be of the lowest quality, but pound for pound, the poor are a million miles better off than their counterpart 50 years ago. Those that bail society choose to because society is unfair. The increasing numbers of &quot;noticably homeless&quot; people in large cities are a direct result of institutions such as mental facilities being emptied of their prozac dependent zombies [society&#039;s compassion - sic]. No wonder these people become drug addicts!

Stocks are just another way of gambling for the ignorant. For &#039;our stocks&#039; to work then finance mechanisms need to be removed. No dividends, no speculation, just honest hard work. But if you had a world without stocks, without finance, for things to be fair, you would also have to have a world without profits because it is because of profits that the rich are rich and the poor are poor, but Senator Webb is not really addressing the poor. He is addressing the middle classes, who feel they should be given an equal oportunity in accumulating assets, some of those prized assets - maybe.

There Senator Webb has a point; free trade agreements, the tender process, insider trading, preferencial government funding. Those are a couple of areas the rich have an absolute advantage over the emerging middle classes [who used to be poor]. He is supporting Churchill&#039;s capitalist ideology, may the best man win. But we must be clear this is not about &quot;the poor&quot; persay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reitired &amp; Kim, I am not sure what your drive is.</p>
<p>I think Senator Webb used the term &#8216;our stocks&#8217; to emphasis what [in his opinion] should be, agrandising the divide between &#8220;rich&#8221; and &#8220;poor&#8221;. Yet the poor have actually become better off, as it were, by default. And at the moment the war is between the &#8220;middle classes&#8221; and the rich. </p>
<p>Most of the poor will be able to clutter their lives with useless junk peddled to them by the rich. And they will become fulfilled in their determination to allow ignorance to prevail. Who does set value?</p>
<p>Landmark property, key artworks, items of historical SIGNIFICANCE, rare coins, stamps in optimum [choice] condition only ever seem to accrue in value. These have become the real assets, the long term assets. How many great artworks are in the hands of the humble classes?</p>
<p>Very few people don&#8217;t have TVs, fridges, washing machines, even microwave ovens. Their possessions may be of the lowest quality, but pound for pound, the poor are a million miles better off than their counterpart 50 years ago. Those that bail society choose to because society is unfair. The increasing numbers of &#8220;noticably homeless&#8221; people in large cities are a direct result of institutions such as mental facilities being emptied of their prozac dependent zombies [society's compassion - sic]. No wonder these people become drug addicts!</p>
<p>Stocks are just another way of gambling for the ignorant. For &#8216;our stocks&#8217; to work then finance mechanisms need to be removed. No dividends, no speculation, just honest hard work. But if you had a world without stocks, without finance, for things to be fair, you would also have to have a world without profits because it is because of profits that the rich are rich and the poor are poor, but Senator Webb is not really addressing the poor. He is addressing the middle classes, who feel they should be given an equal oportunity in accumulating assets, some of those prized assets &#8211; maybe.</p>
<p>There Senator Webb has a point; free trade agreements, the tender process, insider trading, preferencial government funding. Those are a couple of areas the rich have an absolute advantage over the emerging middle classes [who used to be poor]. He is supporting Churchill&#8217;s capitalist ideology, may the best man win. But we must be clear this is not about &#8220;the poor&#8221; persay.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9624</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Tester would have struggled if his musical talent had embraced the piano. Take it from me, sometimes I feel I could do with an extra hand or two.

Disgruntled farmers tend not to make very balanced socially fair individuals. Having said that, to his testament, Jon appears to accept his &#039;lot&#039; and gets on with it. If there are improvements available, he&#039;ll run with them (going on what has been said). That is good, because the hardest thing in times where change is needed, where change is required, the hardest thing is to make changes. The easiest thing is to say everything is ok and it will all &quot;blow over&quot;.

I also have high hopes for Mr Webb. He lead his victory lap with his boots in his hands. Lets hope he puts them to good use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Tester would have struggled if his musical talent had embraced the piano. Take it from me, sometimes I feel I could do with an extra hand or two.</p>
<p>Disgruntled farmers tend not to make very balanced socially fair individuals. Having said that, to his testament, Jon appears to accept his &#8216;lot&#8217; and gets on with it. If there are improvements available, he&#8217;ll run with them (going on what has been said). That is good, because the hardest thing in times where change is needed, where change is required, the hardest thing is to make changes. The easiest thing is to say everything is ok and it will all &#8220;blow over&#8221;.</p>
<p>I also have high hopes for Mr Webb. He lead his victory lap with his boots in his hands. Lets hope he puts them to good use.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  If that wasn&#039;t one of the best MTPs ever.  The discussion with Ted Koppel and Robin Wright on Iran/Iraq/etc. was riveting.

Btw, James Webb showed the depth of his understanding of the issues, including Iraq.  Tester is greener, but he has the correct foci.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  If that wasn&#8217;t one of the best MTPs ever.  The discussion with Ted Koppel and Robin Wright on Iran/Iraq/etc. was riveting.</p>
<p>Btw, James Webb showed the depth of his understanding of the issues, including Iraq.  Tester is greener, but he has the correct foci.</p>
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		<title>By: Mango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,

The total capitalization of the stock market as of March 2006 was estimated at $46 trillion.  
The SS fund has less than $2 trillion in government bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,</p>
<p>The total capitalization of the stock market as of March 2006 was estimated at $46 trillion.<br />
The SS fund has less than $2 trillion in government bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: guess who</title>
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		<dc:creator>guess who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 00:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see if he&#039;s any good at horsetrading.</description>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/397/true-grit-two-new-us-senators/#comment-9620</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Retired.  Note also the locution &#039;our stocks&#039; as if they weren&#039;t &#039;their&#039; stocks.  Methinks Webb protesteth overly much about property.

Forty acres and a mule.  Yeah, that&#039;s the tikkit.

Nobody knows the trouble I&#039;ve seen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Retired.  Note also the locution &#8216;our stocks&#8217; as if they weren&#8217;t &#8216;their&#8217; stocks.  Methinks Webb protesteth overly much about property.</p>
<p>Forty acres and a mule.  Yeah, that&#8217;s the tikkit.</p>
<p>Nobody knows the trouble I&#8217;ve seen.<br />
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Webb is quoted as saying, &quot;They own most of our stocks...&quot;.  Sorry, Senator, as much as I like and admire you, this simply isn&#039;t true.  There is plenty of inequity for real, you don&#039;t have to make it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Webb is quoted as saying, &#8220;They own most of our stocks&#8230;&#8221;.  Sorry, Senator, as much as I like and admire you, this simply isn&#8217;t true.  There is plenty of inequity for real, you don&#8217;t have to make it up.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Larry for highlighting Tester &amp; Webb. Gonna make for some great floor debates!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Larry for highlighting Tester &amp; Webb. Gonna make for some great floor debates!</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extra! Extra! Krugman proposes private Social Security accounts.  Next week&#039;s headline.
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