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	<title>Comments on: Peter Lance, Crisscrossed</title>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9643</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Peter Lance incident reminds me of the time that I was speaking to a senior editor of a weekly news magazine (on a strict non-attribution promise) about the difference between intelligence and journalism.  Journalism, he told me, only had to have the intent of being right at the date and time of the deadline, and there was intense market pressure to be first on the street.  On the other hand, &quot;If you guys (meaning intel officers) get it wrong, sometimes people get killed.&quot;  At least in the way he portrayed it to me, he saw a substantial difference in a journalist&#039;s responsibility to be accurate then that of the intelligence profession.  I left that encounter thinking that when it came to rationalization, politicians have little over some journalists.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Peter Lance incident reminds me of the time that I was speaking to a senior editor of a weekly news magazine (on a strict non-attribution promise) about the difference between intelligence and journalism.  Journalism, he told me, only had to have the intent of being right at the date and time of the deadline, and there was intense market pressure to be first on the street.  On the other hand, &#8220;If you guys (meaning intel officers) get it wrong, sometimes people get killed.&#8221;  At least in the way he portrayed it to me, he saw a substantial difference in a journalist&#8217;s responsibility to be accurate then that of the intelligence profession.  I left that encounter thinking that when it came to rationalization, politicians have little over some journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9642</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, Mr M, great, thought provolking information.

Thankyou for keeping up the good work.</description>
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<p>Thankyou for keeping up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9641</link>
		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, thank you for the insight.

My casual first read of Lance&#039;s self promotion on HuffPo, was that it sounded a little too fantastic to be accepted at face value.  He makes Ali Mohamed sound like he has powers far beyond those of us mortals; the cunning genius of Lex Luther combined with the evasiveness of Frank &quot;Catch Me If You Can&quot; Abagnale.  Of course Abagnale is a real guy, but instead of destroying the world as we know it, he ended up doing consulting for the Treasury Dept.

O.K. so Mohamed is clever, and criminal at the same time.  Are we supposed to be afraid, or perhaps very afraid, that maybe he&#039;s Super-Satan?

I have to wonder, what exactly IS the standard that publishers use to validate the authenticity of author&#039;s work?  If they really expect to sell a lot of books, wouldn&#039;t it be worth the expense to hire fact checkers?  Then again, maybe publishing fact-sloppy pulp just generates additional book sales.  After all; entire well selling books have been written about the false &quot;facts&quot; of people like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O&#039;Reilly.

Its getting to a grey area between fact and fiction.  At least when Dan Brown wrote &quot;The DaVinci Code&quot;, we knew up front it was fiction, even though he claimed there were things he used that were real, like Opus Dei.  Well, big wow, Opus Dei does exist.  They even have their own web page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, thank you for the insight.</p>
<p>My casual first read of Lance&#8217;s self promotion on HuffPo, was that it sounded a little too fantastic to be accepted at face value.  He makes Ali Mohamed sound like he has powers far beyond those of us mortals; the cunning genius of Lex Luther combined with the evasiveness of Frank &#8220;Catch Me If You Can&#8221; Abagnale.  Of course Abagnale is a real guy, but instead of destroying the world as we know it, he ended up doing consulting for the Treasury Dept.</p>
<p>O.K. so Mohamed is clever, and criminal at the same time.  Are we supposed to be afraid, or perhaps very afraid, that maybe he&#8217;s Super-Satan?</p>
<p>I have to wonder, what exactly IS the standard that publishers use to validate the authenticity of author&#8217;s work?  If they really expect to sell a lot of books, wouldn&#8217;t it be worth the expense to hire fact checkers?  Then again, maybe publishing fact-sloppy pulp just generates additional book sales.  After all; entire well selling books have been written about the false &#8220;facts&#8221; of people like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O&#8217;Reilly.</p>
<p>Its getting to a grey area between fact and fiction.  At least when Dan Brown wrote &#8220;The DaVinci Code&#8221;, we knew up front it was fiction, even though he claimed there were things he used that were real, like Opus Dei.  Well, big wow, Opus Dei does exist.  They even have their own web page.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9640</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if we lived where a free press could ask Fitz what he thought of Lance&#039;s book?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we lived where a free press could ask Fitz what he thought of Lance&#8217;s book?<br />
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9639</link>
		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triple Cross is not on my reading list, Larry.

Of course there is nothing wrong with mittigated conjecture. We all make mistakes. Some of us mistake Bill for Bob or Bob for Bill. It does seem this guy attempts to &#039;force&#039; an argument. Now that is dangerous, particularly when he is lecturing those without substance.

The chain of ignorance finds no true commander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triple Cross is not on my reading list, Larry.</p>
<p>Of course there is nothing wrong with mittigated conjecture. We all make mistakes. Some of us mistake Bill for Bob or Bob for Bill. It does seem this guy attempts to &#8216;force&#8217; an argument. Now that is dangerous, particularly when he is lecturing those without substance.</p>
<p>The chain of ignorance finds no true commander.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Lance who?</description>
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		<title>By: taters</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9637</link>
		<dc:creator>taters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,
  This guy has no creedence - what little I&#039;ve read by him seems to firmly qualify him as a bloviatin&#039; bullshit artist - intellectual dishonesty appears to be a staple of this man&#039;s diet. IMO -There&#039;s gotta be some kind of jive screenplay involved for him to get the play he&#039;s getting. What&#039;s up at HuffPo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,<br />
  This guy has no creedence &#8211; what little I&#8217;ve read by him seems to firmly qualify him as a bloviatin&#8217; bullshit artist &#8211; intellectual dishonesty appears to be a staple of this man&#8217;s diet. IMO -There&#8217;s gotta be some kind of jive screenplay involved for him to get the play he&#8217;s getting. What&#8217;s up at HuffPo?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9636</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy was a ringer, he agrees with every incident being investigated, and his stuff matches too much on leads.

Usually the best way to fish that out is to provide a false lead and see if he agrees. Then you know he is bullshit if he goes on and on about that.

Fitz didn&#039;t use him, witness was trying to be a &#039;yes man&#039; and mislead the trail of evidence on other cases. His being added to those trials would jeapordize effective prosecution or compromise other security assets and sources. For someone who was shitwhistling his way through the IC&#039;s efforts, we risk losing other convictions?

His not being executed had more to do with Egypt pressuring us so as not to further inflame radicals there. They are currently a rendition staging point, George W. Lawbreaker doesn&#039;t really want to have the events unfolding in the terror war from there being transparent. If you want to play dirty about it,  don&#039;t say we didn&#039;t warn you. Every time a repub tries to start a terror scandal, and blame it on people working before AWOL, he ends up selling his own and dubya&#039;s noose to the public.

Finally, some rather generously attributed accounts list Chertoff as the boots on ground prosecutor working the New Jersey side of WTC One&#039;s bombing. That would be Mike Chertoff the counsel to a suspected HMO veterans health care scam launderer, whose desitnation of monies was for and to Al Qaeida.
The ABC man is a Chertoff Mole and neglects to mention the Homeland Security director&#039;s role in the failure to connect dots at said time of the specific prosecution of the bombing. 

Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy was a ringer, he agrees with every incident being investigated, and his stuff matches too much on leads.</p>
<p>Usually the best way to fish that out is to provide a false lead and see if he agrees. Then you know he is bullshit if he goes on and on about that.</p>
<p>Fitz didn&#8217;t use him, witness was trying to be a &#8216;yes man&#8217; and mislead the trail of evidence on other cases. His being added to those trials would jeapordize effective prosecution or compromise other security assets and sources. For someone who was shitwhistling his way through the IC&#8217;s efforts, we risk losing other convictions?</p>
<p>His not being executed had more to do with Egypt pressuring us so as not to further inflame radicals there. They are currently a rendition staging point, George W. Lawbreaker doesn&#8217;t really want to have the events unfolding in the terror war from there being transparent. If you want to play dirty about it,  don&#8217;t say we didn&#8217;t warn you. Every time a repub tries to start a terror scandal, and blame it on people working before AWOL, he ends up selling his own and dubya&#8217;s noose to the public.</p>
<p>Finally, some rather generously attributed accounts list Chertoff as the boots on ground prosecutor working the New Jersey side of WTC One&#8217;s bombing. That would be Mike Chertoff the counsel to a suspected HMO veterans health care scam launderer, whose desitnation of monies was for and to Al Qaeida.<br />
The ABC man is a Chertoff Mole and neglects to mention the Homeland Security director&#8217;s role in the failure to connect dots at said time of the specific prosecution of the bombing. </p>
<p>Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9635</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Load both barrels with several grains of Double OO bullshot.
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9634</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is someone off the reservation about Fitz?  Or having new reservations?

The one Mother gives you doesn&#039;t do anything at all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is someone off the reservation about Fitz?  Or having new reservations?</p>
<p>The one Mother gives you doesn&#8217;t do anything at all.<br />
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		<title>By: Colorado Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9633</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim are you off your &quot; Meds&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim are you off your &#8221; Meds&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/398/peter-lance-crisscrossed/#comment-9632</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what&#039;s hokey right of the bat is the so-called authenticating detail of the master of the plot, Osama heself, pointing out what any half-assed idiot could, that is where a suicide bomber could go.  Pretty simple, really, and very possible perfectly true.  But maybe not.

Is this a salvo across The Mighty Fitz&#039;s bow?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what&#8217;s hokey right of the bat is the so-called authenticating detail of the master of the plot, Osama heself, pointing out what any half-assed idiot could, that is where a suicide bomber could go.  Pretty simple, really, and very possible perfectly true.  But maybe not.</p>
<p>Is this a salvo across The Mighty Fitz&#8217;s bow?<br />
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