Comments on: The Deadly Mole

By: lark

lark — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 21:06:17 +0000

We talked about this before. I suggested that ‘how the West was won’ is the best approach. Americans then conquered Hawaii, Alaska, etc. But they never as such went to Puerto Rico, but they negotiated a great deal and Puerto Rico liked it. Hundreds of schools and universities were established in Puerto Rico. And look at how we have such good relations with the Phillipines. Why? Books and schools and fair dealings. But look what the hard line approach got us from Cuba.

I said that if a GI or CIA agent stays in Afghanistan as a school teacher for 1 year gets 2 acres of land, 5 years – 10 acres and 10 years 20 acres, etc. Plus health insurance

By: Docelder

Docelder — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:27:07 +0000

Yes, some integrate into our culture to learn about us, and to “blend” but they entered with the hate already in place. I still think there is a small number of people who would wear the exploding underwear out of hate alone. Look at Bin Laden, he is an enabler but here we have an aging man on kidney dialysis and he didn’t put the exploding underwear on for himself. Still, I think the long term effect of shock and awe is just more hate. I don’t think the guys who wear exploding underwear hate individual Americans, but they hate our heavy handedness. I am not being paid by anybody to think about this, but I still think the soft sell approach… just do well for ourselves and let Levi’s become the wardrobe of choice among the youth of the jihadi nations. Let broadband Internet become cheap enough that everybody in the world has open access to it. America has “won” the cultural war already. We should use that to our advantage and maybe save the smart bombs in case we actually really need them someday.

By: trixta

trixta — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:08:46 +0000

Wake up, Alex! Unfortunately, there are some factions of the Muslim world who are on a crusade against the West and on a mission to Islamisize the world. Unfortunately, things are at a point where doing nothing would be a dangerous policy. This does not mean that we are not saddened by loss of innocent life on both sides. At this point, pacifism and isolationism is not a policy that will protect us from or stop the crusade to Isamisize the world.

By: trixta

trixta — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:47:50 +0000

Docelder, I think you are right about the culture war and how important it is as a long-term strategy. But, there are some Muslims who see modernization and Western culture as a rallying cry for revolution, that is, as a rallying cry for preserving traditional Muslim culture and fundamentalist religion. This radical fundamentalist turn is quite evident in England and in France. Ufortunately, there are some Muslims who take preserving traditional culture and religion further by turning to terrorism and martyrdom. But as you say, the cultural aspect of this “war” is important. Iran is a very good example of how modernization finally won the hearts and minds of their youth and those who have been exposed to Western culture. I think the more moderate forces in the Middle East need to push back against such fundamentalist forces. It’s their “war” too (as expemplified in Jordan).

By: beyond_words

beyond_words — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:11:39 +0000

Docelder your heart is in the right place but your forgetting 19 of the 20 pakistani bombers in the London subway that massacred so many were “born, raised and schooled” in england. The “tents to Mcdonalds” wishy-washy lets show them how much they’re missing out on ideas would improve their lives but wouldnt remove the hate.
Bluntly they want you, me , all of us , dead. Period. Were the “european crusaders” and not “them” in their eyes, and will never will be no matter how many big macs you bribe them with.

By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:55:53 +0000

Yes indeed, Teak – and we thought it was Upside Down World with Bush…

By: TeakWoodKite

TeakWoodKite — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:08:27 +0000

Thanks Rev. Amy. What a strange universe this BO administration is.

By: hot Librarian

hot Librarian — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:21:59 +0000

Well isn’t this Mole /double agent thing quite common in Spyworld. ?

If it was “our ” mole we would be jubilant.

Have to accept the other side of the coin – we have successes , they have sccesses.

However it does make one more sentimental about The Russkies & Herr Wolff of the DDR. They were a classy foe.

I cant see many thrillers out of Jordanians – well except for Quen or & her designer wear.

By: Docelder

Docelder — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:03:57 +0000

Hi Lark, yes we just need to soft sell America to the world. Just accept that we have done well for ourselves and let the rest of the world come to us. No wars for capitalism, or deaths for freedoms around the globe… just more cheeseburgers with fries, satellite tv and slick merchandising. How can you keep the yound jihadi’s in tents once they have had the Internet or played an x-box? It isn’t going to happen. Obama is the exact opposite of what we needed. We needed Ronald Reagan, somebody who believed in America and in Americans and in what America represents. Instead, we have the non stop campaign and worldwide apology and grovelfest. Excuse us that your kids in tents want to grow up and have running water, the Internet and x-boxes like the American kids do. Maybe if these people didn’t focus so much effort on jihad or in medieval tradition, maybe they wouldn’t have to live in tents, and maybe their kids wouldn’t grow up wanting to leave first chance they get. They are their own worst enemies, but then again so are we right now.

By the way, are you freezing in Orlando? Here in Tampa my banana trees froze last night. The leaves are already turning brown. They will have to be cut off at the ground to come back from corms. Tonight is supposed to be colder yet. I wrapped the crowns of the sensitive palms. We are supposed to have a 9 hour hard freeze. Global warming I suppose. =-O

By: raging

raging — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:00:17 +0000

ooooh you so scarey! I don’t feel “maimed for life”.
you must come from an ancient country of weak women, Alex. someone as bright & beautiful as yourself shouldn’t fight with the big girls, Alex. is that your customer support stage name, Alex? I like the “ppl of color” touch there. nice racebaiting technique, troll.
certainly tugs at the heartstrings.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:57:06 +0000

Me alegro!

By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:04:48 +0000

From the information available (see above), he was considered one of their agents. That’s the whole thing abt him being a MOLE, a double agent. He betrayed them.

And considering he was one of theirs, why WOULDN’T he be allowed in? There was no reason to believe he was not aligned with his Jordanian handler.

I assume there will be more info to come, thoughlet’s not forget that a number of people lost their lives in this attack.

By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:52:22 +0000

Okay, Alex – I think you have made your point.

By: Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:51:46 +0000

From the information available (see above), he was considered one of their agents. That’s the whole thing abt him being a MOLE, a double agent. He betrayed them.

And considering he was one of theirs, why WOULDN’T he be allowed in? There was no reason to believe he was not aligned with his Jordanian handler.

I assume there will be more info to come, though…

By: lark

lark — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:37:48 +0000

I think the way to beat them is with McDonalds, Levi’s, Facebook and MTV.

I rather think that we will beat them when we stop using the words “control,” “dictate,” and “will have to” in one short swipe. And at the same time that could also revive and revitalize our country if we stop the same practice with our own citizens. Teenagers know the feeling. It seems to me that sometimes we resemble a parent that at 90 still is intending to manipulate her neighbor’s 60 year old children.