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]]> By: truthtelling007 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292727 truthtelling007 Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:58:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292727 I could care less if Toobin was an "Obama shill"..and frankly I never see him really comment on Obama, so I don't know how it fits here, but he's mostly...Wrong. What bothers me most about him is how legally incorrect he is so often. He makes predictions that don't come true or are simplistic at best. I'd have to go through my archives, but when he is wrong he just sort of fluffs it off and moves on with some generalaztion. Many of these "experts" are questionable. Just because Jack Rice, Larry Johnson, Michael Schuer, and others you see on TV worked at the CIA does not make them experts. YOU Have to 2 Listen 2 Them over a period of time and examine their peer reviewed comments to decide if they know what they are talking about. LJ has been spot on more times than I can count. I do differ with him on topics outside of defense issues at large. I can tell he knows his shit though. Having him up there with Toobin was..well...strange, but..at least LJ was informative. I could care less if Toobin was an “Obama shill”..and frankly I never see him really comment on Obama, so I don’t know how it fits here, but he’s mostly…Wrong.

What bothers me most about him is how legally incorrect he is so often. He makes predictions that don’t come true or are simplistic at best. I’d have to go through my archives, but when he is wrong he just sort of fluffs it off and moves on with some generalaztion.

Many of these “experts” are questionable. Just because Jack Rice, Larry Johnson, Michael Schuer, and others you see on TV worked at the CIA does not make them experts. YOU Have to 2 Listen 2 Them over a period of time and examine their peer reviewed comments to decide if they know what they are talking about.

LJ has been spot on more times than I can count. I do differ with him on topics outside of defense issues at large. I can tell he knows his shit though.

Having him up there with Toobin was..well…strange, but..at least LJ was informative.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292467 TeakWoodKite Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:32:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292467 An interesting exchange, Mr. Johnson. An interesting exchange, Mr. Johnson.

]]> By: Guest http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292466 Guest Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:21:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292466 I don't have a problem with the "terrorism as crime" mentality of terrorists being pursued, tried and convicted in the courts that was the prevailing notion in counterterrorism before 9-11 as long as it doesn't becomes a policy of waiting for an attack to occur and then start gathering evidence for a criminal prosecution. We'd better make damn sure, though, no top members of Al-Qeada get off on a technicality, that any critical evidence against them is legally obtained, uncompromised and fully disclosable in courtroom <em></em>proceedings... I don’t have a problem with the “terrorism as crime” mentality of terrorists being pursued, tried and convicted in the courts that was the prevailing notion in counterterrorism before 9-11 as long as it doesn’t
becomes a policy of waiting for an attack to occur and then start gathering evidence for a criminal prosecution.

We’d better make damn sure, though, no top members of Al-Qeada get off on a technicality, that any critical evidence against them is legally obtained, uncompromised and fully disclosable in courtroom proceedings…

]]> By: Mark http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292464 Mark Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:26:53 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292464 Anyone who saw the Simpson trial does not believe in the system. Anyone who saw the Simpson trial does not believe in the system.

]]> By: wbboei http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292458 wbboei Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:27:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292458 If you asked to decide who to believe--Lehman vs Toobin this is what you should know.  Lehman is an American hero.  In addition to serving on the 9/11 Commission, he was Secretary of the Navy while he was in his 30s..  In that role he built the 600 ship navy and was architect of the military strategy which defeated the Soviet Union although he would give the credit to others. He wanted to give Obama a chance but will not compromise the security of our nation to do it. By contrast, Toobin is a law professor.  His client is CNN,  His credentials on national security are to use an expression of an old law professor of mine long as a whores dream and bare as a goats ass,  If you asked to decide who to believe–Lehman vs Toobin this is what you should know.  Lehman is an American hero.  In addition to serving on the 9/11 Commission, he was Secretary of the Navy while he was in his 30s..  In that role he built the 600 ship navy and was architect of the military strategy which defeated the Soviet Union although he would give the credit to others. He wanted to give Obama a chance but will not compromise the security of our nation to do it.

By contrast, Toobin is a law professor.  His client is CNN,  His credentials on national security are to use an expression of an old law professor of mine long as a whores dream and bare as a goats ass, 

]]> By: wbboei http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292456 wbboei Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:10:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292456 I have no respect for Toobin.  He was and still is a shameless Obama shill,  I think his legal analysis has a level of nuance and evasion to it that make me uncomfortable, but supports the narrative of CNN.  Worse however he savaged Hillary at the end of the campaign. In this instance, he is more interested in hammering on Bush than addressing the situation at hand. If he thinks we are in the same situation today that we were in during the Reagan administration then he is an idiot.  I doubt he has read the 9/11 report.  He lives in the same ivory tower that many law professors live in including the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Here is what one of the key members of the 9/11 commission has to say about the Obama Administration's approach to terrorism in general and more specifically treating them like enemy combatants. After watching President Obama’s remarks on national security this afternoon, John Lehman, the secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration and a member of the 9/11 Commission, tells National Review Online that, “frankly, I’m pissed off.” “President Obama just doesn’t get it,” says Lehman. “I don’t think he has a clue. It’s all pure spin. He’s ignoring key issues and taking respectable professionals like John Brennan and turning them into hacks and shills. It’s beyond contempt.” “The president has ignored the 9/11 Commission’s report,” says Lehman. “This whole idea that we can fix things by jumping higher and faster is ridiculous. The fact is that the system worked just like we said it would work if the president failed to give the Director of National Intelligence the tools he needs: it’s bloated, bureaucratic, layered, and stultified.” “President Obama continues to totally ignore one of the important thrusts of our 9/11 recommendations, which is that you have to approach counterterrorism as a multiagency intelligence issue, and not as a law-enforcement issue. He’s made a lot of commission’s members angry for dismissing our report and ignoring key recommendations.” Obama, he adds, has taken a “lawyer-like, politically-correct approach” to national security issues like terrorist watchlists and no-fly lists. “You got to blame the president for enforcing the politically-correct and legalistic policies that led to these failures.”   I have no respect for Toobin.  He was and still is a shameless Obama shill,  I think his legal analysis has a level of nuance and evasion to it that make me uncomfortable, but supports the narrative of CNN.  Worse however he savaged Hillary at the end of the campaign.

In this instance, he is more interested in hammering on Bush than addressing the situation at hand. If he thinks we are in the same situation today that we were in during the Reagan administration then he is an idiot.  I doubt he has read the 9/11 report.  He lives in the same ivory tower that many law professors live in including the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Here is what one of the key members of the 9/11 commission has to say about the Obama Administration’s approach to terrorism in general and more specifically treating them like enemy combatants.

After watching President Obama’s remarks on national security this afternoon, John Lehman, the secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration and a member of the 9/11 Commission, tells National Review Online that, “frankly, I’m pissed off.”
“President Obama just doesn’t get it,” says Lehman. “I don’t think he has a clue. It’s all pure spin. He’s ignoring key issues and taking respectable professionals like John Brennan and turning them into hacks and shills. It’s beyond contempt.”
“The president has ignored the 9/11 Commission’s report,” says Lehman. “This whole idea that we can fix things by jumping higher and faster is ridiculous. The fact is that the system worked just like we said it would work if the president failed to give the Director of National Intelligence the tools he needs: it’s bloated, bureaucratic, layered, and stultified.”

“President Obama continues to totally ignore one of the important thrusts of our 9/11 recommendations, which is that you have to approach counterterrorism as a multiagency intelligence issue, and not as a law-enforcement issue. He’s made a lot of commission’s members angry for dismissing our report and ignoring key recommendations.” Obama, he adds, has taken a “lawyer-like, politically-correct approach” to national security issues like terrorist watchlists and no-fly lists. “You got to blame the president for enforcing the politically-correct and legalistic policies that led to these failures.”  

]]> By: Retired http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292450 Retired Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:26:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292450 I actually have a better solution that Larry's. 1.  Read him his rights. 2.  Offer him martyrdom, with a very humane death, in return for telling us everytying that he knows. Results: 1.  We know everything he knows. 2.  He gets 72 virgins via a humane execution. 3.  One less terrorist in the world. Problem: At least until the Obama health care plan passes, there is no right to death, and no authorization for government officials to conduct euthanaisia.  Cheer up, though, that's comming.  And if it can be applied to the elderly, it can certainly be applied to a young terririst.  After all, what would his Quality Adjusted Life Year (QALY) look like with a life sentence? I actually have a better solution that Larry’s.
1.  Read him his rights.
2.  Offer him martyrdom, with a very humane death, in return for telling us everytying that he knows.

Results:
1.  We know everything he knows.
2.  He gets 72 virgins via a humane execution.
3.  One less terrorist in the world.

Problem:
At least until the Obama health care plan passes, there is no right to death, and no authorization for government officials to conduct euthanaisia.  Cheer up, though, that’s comming.  And if it can be applied to the elderly, it can certainly be applied to a young terririst.  After all, what would his Quality Adjusted Life Year (QALY) look like with a life sentence?

]]> By: Peggy Sue http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292440 Peggy Sue Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:43:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292440 Well, obviously I did misss this.  Sounds as if it came very early in the show.  My loss.  But thank you for the comments, Larry, and shedding a little reason on the situation, particularly the parallel to Richard Reid and the penchant for some to insist that torture is the only way to go. Though I have major problems with marching the Gitmo crowd into NYC for trial after everything that went down on 9/11 and after the AG and President openly stated that the defendants would be found guilty and receive the death penalty [not sure how that highlights our justice system], this is a different case altogether. Sorry I missed the segment live.  Well, obviously I did misss this.  Sounds as if it came very early in the show.  My loss.  But thank you for the comments, Larry, and shedding a little reason on the situation, particularly the parallel to Richard Reid and the penchant for some to insist that torture is the only way to go.

Though I have major problems with marching the Gitmo crowd into NYC for trial after everything that went down on 9/11 and after the AG and President openly stated that the defendants would be found guilty and receive the death penalty [not sure how that highlights our justice system], this is a different case altogether.

Sorry I missed the segment live. 

]]> By: Jazzman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/40308/larry-johnson-on-cnn-today-the-trial-of-umar-farouk-abdulmutallab/#comment-1292437 Jazzman Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:30:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=40308#comment-1292437 Larry not diplomatic???? Nahhhhhhhhh......not our Larry Johnson.. :) Larry not diplomatic???? Nahhhhhhhhh……not our Larry Johnson.. :)

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