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Scott Brown vs. Harry Reid

Impossible.  

The special election in Massachusetts scheduled for January 19 is a donnybrook now after two contrasting likely voter polls in the last hours show the Republican State Senator Scott Brown leading the Democrat State Attorney General Martha Coakley by one point or trailing by fifteen points.

Special elections are unpredictable turnouts; the winner takes all.

Emily Cadei, CQ, reports that there are Republican and conservative PACs that are now pushing cash into Massachusetts for TV buys in support of Brown by attacking Coakley as a machine pol who will rubber stamp Harry Reid and the healthcare bill, cap and trade bill, other gargantuan spending bills in Congress.

This is the 60th vote in the US Senate that is critical to the Reid offensive. John Fund, WSJ, tells me that there is a Democratic fallback plan, in the unlikely event that Brown wins, to delay the swearing in until after the military overseas votes are count, which will buy ten extra days — during which Harry Reid would push through healthcare in DC with the rent a senate vote of the appointed placeholder Paul Kirk.

Impossible to imagine that Brown can beat the Boston machine.

Impossible like the 1969 Mets?

 John Avalon, DealyBeast.com, reminds us that independents outnumber both Democrats and Republicans combined in the state, and they will have their say on healthcare, tea parties, stimulus package, unemployment.  The protest vote will be a reckoning for the Hill.

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See also “Meet Scott Brown, Senate Candidate For Massachusetts,” published at NoQuarterUSA.net on January 8, 2010.

  • ducksoup

    I read that Scott Brown is anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, pro-torture, and a global warming denier.

    Why are some here hoping he will win?

  • creeper

    Jackarooty, I hear you.  But the polls are about the only place where you can have any influence at all these days.  Go.  Vote.  Send your tiny message.  You’ll feel better for having done so.

    Besides, if you don’t vote, you cede the right to b*tch.

  • creeper

    Perhaps they’re also hoping he will remember how representative government is supposed to work. 

  • sowsear

    If there is even a slight chance that he could vote against the Stealth Care Bill, it’d be worth a vote.

  • Doc99
  • Peggy Sue

    Scott Brown is still a big “if” in MA, considering the ratio between Dems and Republicans in the state.  But, I have read that Brown has the lion’s share of the unaffiliated vote, an almost 30-70 split.  If that’s true [and the polls have a habit of being untrustworthy], it’s going to be about getting out the vote.  I understand Coakley has a lot of money.  But if the Republicans are rushing in with money infusions, it probably means the internal polls make this look like a real horse race.

    I was scanning the Kos pages over the weekend and many posters there are in full panic mode.  They know what a Coakley loss would do to legislative prospects.  But even more, the shock of a loss or near loss would rattle an already nervous body of representatives.

    I read Kathleen Parker’s op-ed in the Washington Post.  Her rundown on Brown is interesting: Joe Six Pack with a law degree and a serious military background.  He’s a conservative but sounds far less ideological than most.  And one of the quotes I picked up makes him very attractive:

    “I don’t owe anything to anyone.”

    With an attitude like that [if true], he’s a man for all seasons.

    Should be fun to watch.  And oh yes, I read Brown is pro-choice but opposes late-term abortion or lowering the age of consent.  Which is basically where I stand.

    Interesting!  And if I were Harry Reid?  I’d be thinking a career change is looming in my future.

  • ducksoup

    Just because some politician says he doesn’t “owe anything to anyone” doesn’t mean that is so.

    Obama said a lot of nice things that turned out to be untrue.

  • ducksoup

    I didn’t see any signs that Republicans understood “how representative government is supposed to work” when they had control.

  • Sassy

    I’ve heard reports that Brown is working relentlessly, and that says a lot about the man, considering the Kennedys’ stacked deck.
    I wish him luck, and a win by him would be worth celebrating by this betrayed democrat!

  • Ladydawnelle

    The HILLBUZZ crew are all OUT for Scott!  lol
    As long as an OBOT lover doesn’t win.  That’s where I’m at these days.  Not much worse in my book.  Except maybe for CheneyBOT.  Figures they’re related.  PUMA GRRRROWL!

  • SoCalDem

    I would probably vote for Brown if I lived in Mass. I know that Hillbuzz is campaigning for him. So how anti-gay can Scott be if the gay guys in Chicago are pushing for him?

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    The voters over compensated in 2008. The Dems have done nothing but ram rod unpopular legislation down our throats. With a few GOP pickups the Dems may have to regroup under new leadership. But it remains to be seen how the GOP will act once given back any influence.

  • NAN

    I would if I could, vote for him.  He’s very appealing in so many ways, Independents WILL vote for him. 

  • confused American

    So there is more than just the State of the Union address at stake for the Health Care Reform bill. 

    After the fiasco with the stimulus because it was done so quickly you would think they would learn.

    This being said along with many elected officals saying that this Health Care Reform is not what they really wanted but it will do, many are realizing what a bunch of idiots we have running our country.

  • Peggy Sue

    Oh, that’s absolutely true, ducksoup.  That’s why I qualified the statement with [if true]. 

    One thing I learned from the 2008 primary and GE is to take anything I read with a grain of salt.  Even this new book out, presumably giving the nitty gritty of the 2008 political season, can’t be taken as whole cloth. I think it’s pretty evident that we [the public]are and have been manipulated by the media on a 24/7 basis. 

    The more important thing is to look at a man or woman’s past performance and policy stands to get a sense of who they are [or at least, pretend to be]. And even then, it’s a crap shoot.  

  • annie

    I am in Ma and I have marked the 19th on my calender. I am an Independent and I hope that Brown beats the hell out of Coakly.

  • stodghie

    duck you have been reading lies.

  • stodghie

    ok duck come on out and tell us the truth. you are a mass dim.

  • stodghie

    democrats running now HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR LOYALTY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT AND NOT PELSOI OR REID. the current crop seems to have forgotten that.

  • ducksoup

    What lies?

  • WestVirginia304

    Doc99.  I just read the HillBuz piece.  When people can stand up to their friends as well as their enemies then they are showing real backbone.  Those guys are my champions for the day.
    http://hillbuzz.org/2010/01/09/the-whos-mad-at-us-today-report-saturday-edition/

  • Ferd Berfle

    They did indeed. I can only hope that they won’t overcompensate yet again in 2010. We don’t need yet another reactionary swing back to the other extreme.

  • ducksoup

    “So how anti-gay can Scott be if the gay guys in Chicago are pushing for him?”

    I don’t know, but then I still don’t understand why gays backed Obama instead of Hillary. I lost a few gay friends over my support for Hillary. Now they are very upset about Obama. Too late.

  • Bronwyn

    Can I convince you to vote because I can’t, and I’m desperate about sending a message to the Senate Democrats? Please, pretty please?

  • Bronwyn

    The sad truth is that most voters had 1/100th the knowledge about the candidates and the issues that you have.  I have a neighbor who knows nothing about a single one of the issues and problems (Rezko, etc.) swirling around Obama.  All she did, she said, was vote to make America better.  With this kind of lack of knowledge — endemic across the nation with most voters — it’s no wonder we got Obama.

  • Bronwyn

    i’ve been telling her a few things about Obama and Obamacare, taking care not to overwhelm her with too much information.  She is absolutely shocked.  She had NO clue that Obamacare could be problematic, let alone a disaster.

  • Bronwyn

    Thanks for the tip about Parker’s op-ed.  I’ll try to post something about this today.

  • azblondie

    If you are so inclined, the Scott Brown campaign is trying to raise $500K in one day.  Link here…

    http://www.brownforussenate.com/red-invades-blue

  • JustMe

    I agree with both creeper and Bronwyn and at a guess Jack there are many out there that would pay you to go vote! Of course that last bit is a joke however nothing like doing as the rich guys do!!!

  • JustMe

     
    I agree with both creeper and Bronwyn and at a guess Jack there are many out there that would pay you to go vote! Of course that last bit is a joke however nothing like doing as the rich guys do!!!

  • cat

    bullshit. all of it.

  • timmy

    These days… I’m for anything that is aganist Obama….  So, Scott you better beat Martha so we can stick to Obama and Raid.

  • Nellie

    JBJD,

    About 2 hours ago I stopped at alittle pickup store to buy gas just boutside of All River, MA. A woman in her late 60′s started talking to me about her problems with Health Care, Tufts Medical Plan and not getting the annual Social Security Raise. We were immediately joined by 2 men in their late 50′s. Then a 54 year old man and a 50 year old woman joined us. Amazingly they are ALL voting Scott Brown in this 80% Democratic town, and the men were stating instance after instance where we’ve been “screwed” by the corrupt politicians and all agreed how important it is touse the internet to keepup to date on whaat is happening in government. “Change” it seems is coming, just not exactly what the Dems in Congress and Obama’s Chicago thugs had thought.

  • Nellie

    Jack,

    NEVER let them take your vote by any method. If everyone votes, as they are now talking, it could just be the beginning of a revolution we need to root out corrutpion in all area of Governement,

  • Nellie

    Duck Soup,

    Instead of listening to Media Propaganda. Why not listen to tonights debate between Scott and Martha. It’s being aired at 7:00PM tonight by the pro-Coakley NPR station, WBUR in Boston.

    If you listen to the individuals instead of the announc3ers perhaps yo will find Scott Bown is NONE of what you say.

  • margaret

    This independent in Massachusetts is voting Scott Brown.  If Democrats stay home because they think Martha has it in the bag, and disgruntled Repubs and independents come out in droves, we could pull this off.

  • cat

    bravo.

  • Docelder

    I don’t think it’s a gimme at all for the democrats in Massachusetts. Because, the voters in Kenendy’s district haven’t really had a real chance to vote at all for the senate for nearly a half century. What, they could vote against their own Viceroy, a veritable homegrown pork machine… but what were the chances of that really? How do we know what the people in MA really want for themselves? They are just now able to speak for themselves what they want for the first time in a very long time. I think of them in a similar way that I think of Cubans. The Massachusetts people are now free, or at least they can be.

  • PA Caucasian

    Reid’s “Negro dialect” comments revealed the hypocrisy of the Dem leadership’s so-called big tent diversity. I’m wondering if African-Americans all over the country are finally waking up to the truth beneath the Dem pols’ sanctimonious veneer. This is why Reid’s behavior is relevant in Massachusetts and everywhere.

    Reid is the Senate Majority Leader, he’s not some no-name Senate page.

  • Nellie

    Sassy,

    This comment considering the Kennedys’ stacked deck is part of the so called “wisdom” from the Obma Media. For reasons not at all clear to me, Vicki Kennedy is very popular with DC Dems. HOWEVER, the people of Massachusetts ignore her, and just wish she would go back to Louisisana where she belongs.

    The Boston Machine, now under the control of the crook from Chicago, Deval Patrick, is trying to “Chicago-Ize” Mass. Patrick is doing so badly the Boston Globe today had a front page story about Deval Patrick’s rapidly delcining numbers, and the improbability of them ever again rising. Mass voters, like elsewhere in the country have had it, and they defintely do NOT want to be known as “Chicago on the Atlantic Seaboard”.

  • PA Caucasian

    Because he’s hot.

    (There goes the Soccer Mom vote.)

    And the nation is beginning to doubt global warming, check the polls.

  • PA Caucasian

    NJ - a solidly blue state, just voted in a Republican governor. A Scott Brown win in MA not so far-fetched.

  • oowawa

    As long as an OBOT lover doesn’t win

    Agreed, Ladydawnelle.  Never will these lips approach an Obot Lover’s kool-aid reeking breath . . .

  • ducksoup

    I honestly doubt that Obama gives a damn if the Republicans take control of either House of Congress. If the Republicans gain control, it will just give Obama an even better excuse than he has now for doing things that favor the corporate interests.

    I don’t think he cares about the Democratic Party, ordinary Americans, or America’s traditional values

  • foxyladi14

    i,m voting for Scott.. :) :)

  • Mary Cusack

    I’m voting from brown.  Until they screwed hillary I was a loyal democrat.  Boy would it be a kick in the pants to have him win.

  • Jackarooty

    Yes I will vote for Scott (with a heavy heart)!  I’m an “underemployed” worker and certainly will have the time :-D !

  • jbjd

    At a New Year’s Day gathering, I used Howard Dean’s talking points against the bill!  And I fully credited him, too!

  • Tuppence 411

     Party affliation in MA is intentionally kept confusing. I know many people who have mistakenly enrolled as “Independent” when they meant ” Unenrolled”. Then the window to change your status closes a few weeks before a primary. Both parties like this system though and no one is making moves to change it because it prevents us “unwashed, uninformed” masses from mucking up either the Dems or the GOP’s primaries.

    I saw it work against Barky in the 2008 primary though. A group of college kids in front of me wanted a Dem ballot, but couldn’t get one because they enrolled in the Green Party.  HA! It was Nadar or nothing while I got to vote for Hillary!

  • lightacandle

    With regard to abortion, Scott Brown writes on his senate campiagn website: “I believe government has the responsibility to regulate in this area and I support parental consent and notification requirements and I oppose partial birth abortion.”

    With regard to marriage, Scott Brown writes on his website: “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman.”

    With regard to guns, Scott Brown writes on his campaign website that he believes “citizens have the right to keep and bear arms as a basic constitutional liberty.”

    http://www.brownforussenate.com/issues

    If you’re okay with those stances on those issues, then fine, support Scott Brown.

  • requiredreading

    Obama cares about one thing: Obama.  That is why the term “Obamacare” is so appropriate.

  • Anonymous

    For what it is worth, Coakely as a MA super deleagte, bucked the party and  held out and cast her vote for Hillary.

    I caught some of the debate on my ride home tonight. Some key differences.

    Brown supports Obama on the troop expansion, Coakely opposes. I’m with Brown on that one.

    On the deficit, Brown emphasized cutting spending as key and also mentioned tax cuts. Coakley countered that Bush tax cuts lead to big deficits. Brown cited ending wars as cost cutting measure as well as going after entiltlement when directly asked about them. My thoughts were Brown is sort of plaing both side of the issue, supporting troop increase in Afghanistan yet claiming he will end the wars to cut spending. Is that possible? Brown also mentioned voting against Health Care bill as a way of cutting spending. Coakley countered that CBO shows bill is cost neutral after 10 years. Brown discounted that argument. Brown did vote for Romenycare in 2006.

    Coakly indicated she supports tax cuts and or policies that would cut taxes in the middle class but supports tax increase on top 2%. On entitlements she indicated that she would not hurt seniors who payed into a plan for decades by cutting a critical source of income for them to pay for mismanagement by the government. She said there are other ways to reign in spending without hurting seniors.

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  • Anonymous

    that is the problem ducksoup, you are shallowing lies and don’t take the time to do effective research. then you spout the lies about brown here. shame!

  • Anonymous

    ducksoup, you had better believe obama cares if he loses the house and senate. they won’t be the rollovers the dims were.

  • TeakWoodKite

    What an interesting story Nellie Thanks. I prefer Conway over Boston, but the spontanious nature of your story is illuminating.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Jackrooty, We are all in Whoville. Our voices may be small but we can be heard.

    Please VOTE. =-X

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