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Another Rift in the Democratic Party?

On Tuesday, The Austin American-Statesman had an interesting article about a rift in the Democratic Party. Not the one you think.

. . .an increasingly nasty lawsuit against the DNC, brought by Donald Hitchcock after he was fired as the party’s gay and lesbian outreach director, has exposed the rift between gays and one of the party’s most important constituencies, African Americans.

As an outsider to both groups, it seemed to me that the LGBT groups were looking for recognition, participation and a guaranteed voice in DNC matters. Many consider this a civil rights issue. While the use of the term “civil rights” seems to offend some AA groups, it does not necessarily look as if “civil rights” is the driving factor in what follows.

In my read of the available materials, the issue is power. Powerful AAs in the Democratic party want to keep that power in AA hands. An example of this was the recent election in Alabama of Patricia Todd, the first openly gay state legislator. In a race for the seat of a retiring AA legislator, with no Republican opponent, the Democratic primary would decide who held the seat.

Five people ran and the vote was close enough to force a run-off between the top two vote-getters – Todd, a white gay woman, and Gaynell Hendricks, an AA woman. The run-off was decided in favor of Todd by 59 votes out of 2287.

From Wikipedia:

[Todd's] run-off victory was challenged by her opponent’s mother-in-law, who claimed that Todd had received “illegal votes” and had filed a campaign finance report late.[4] That report contained information – a $25,000 contribution from the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund and payments to two of her primary opponents – that opponents charged could have affected the outcome.

It was widely reported[5] that the contest centered around the question of race. Todd is white, and the outgoing legislator, like the majority of the district, is black. Many of the state’s African-American political leaders were apparently eager to keep the seat in black hands.[6]

A sub-committee of the Alabama Democratic Party (ADP) met to decide the contest and voted 5–0 to disqualify both Todd and her opponent, on the basis of what the ADP Chairman Joe Turnham called an “archaic party by-law”.[7] The by-law had not only been superseded by the 1988 Fair Campaign Practices Act but had not been followed by any candidate running for any office since 1988, including candidates for governor. It also emerged that the by-law was in violation of the federal Voting Rights Act and may well actually have been repealed.[8]

Following sustained pressure and newspaper editorials criticising the judgement,[9], the State Democratic Executive Committee voted on 26 August to overturn the sub-committee’s ruling by a vote of 95–87. According to press reports, the voting was “mostly along racial lines”.[5]

Footnotes at Wikipedia will take you to original articles, some of which are no longer available.

The NYT had this to say at the time:

The challenge was brought by Ms. Hendricks’s mother-in-law. But it was tacitly supported by Joe L. Reed, a longtime Democratic kingmaker and the party’s vice chairman of minority affairs. Mr. Reed had urged voters to support Ms. Hendricks, and at one point the Alabama Democratic Conference, a black political organization that he is chairman of, gave a check to cover the $3,000 fee needed to bring the challenge in case Ms. Hendricks missed the deadline. He also controlled the subcommittee; three of the five members were drawn from a pool of Mr. Reed’s appointees.

“This is really not about race,” Ms. Todd said in a telephone interview as she traveled to Montgomery for the hearing. “This is about Joe Reed controlling the party and trying to get his way, and he’s just a bully.”

Mr. Reed disagreed. “She doesn’t even know me,’’ he said, “so she wouldn’t be in any position to know. This is not about lifestyles; this is not about race. This is about whether she complied with the party rules.”

The Times seems to suggest the issue may have been race, but LGTB groups saw sexual orientation as the issue.

The WaPo reported the eventual outcome this way:

The Alabama Democratic Party Executive Committee voted 95-87 on Saturday to reject that decision. Party chairman Joe Turnham said no candidate has filed a disclosure report with the party since 1988.

The vote, which pitted vice chairman Joe Reed, a powerful black political leader, against other party officials, fell mostly along racial lines.

Prior to the Todd election, the DNC’s director of outreach to the gay community, Donald Hitchcock, was fired after his domestic partner, Paul Yandura, wrote a letter criticizing DNC chair Howard Dean to gay Democrats.

Hitchcock sued the DNC alleging discrimination. During the course of the lawsuit, the Todd election and other issues between the LGBT community and the AA community surfaced.

According to the Washington Blade:

Yandura’s open letter to gay Democrats in 2006 came shortly after reports surfaced that some members of the DNC Black Caucus opposed a proposal by gay DNC member Garry Shay of California to add gays to the party’s affirmative action guidelines for selecting delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

According to documents obtained by the Blade, Daughtry allegedly led a vigorous effort to thwart the plan.

Leah Daughtry, Dean’s chief of staff and long time party operative, is an AA woman who is also a pentecostal minister.

Shay’s proposal called for a DNC rule change that would require all state parties to set goals for selecting a minimum number of gay delegates, much in the same way that delegate quotas exist for African Americans, Latinos, Asian-Pacific Islanders, Native Americans and women.

Here’s where Donna Brazile comes in. Apparently she supported the change as long as it was voluntary, not required. Why might she do this?

The New York Daily News reported that Brazile, a member of the DNC Black Caucus, was among the Democrats who were concerned that Shay’s proposal could result in fewer black delegates attending the convention.

Not surprisingly, some information has come forth – from YouTube. The first clip is from the beginning of the Dean deposition. The second concerns the Shay proposal.

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So, while this may or may not directly impact every NQ reader, it is instructive. Any group with power and a guaranteed voice is not likely to share that without a fight. In this case, it appears the main objection to full inclusion of the LGBT community in the Democratic party relates more to a potential loss of power than even race or sexual orientation, although those go hand-in-hand when people are grouped this way. But ultimately, it’s about power – and keeping it. Naturally, to the LGBT community, it is a denial of their rights.

Ironic from a civil rights standpoint, but predictable from a human one, and the Democratic Party is showing the strain. However, I’ll just bet the calculation within the upper echelons is that the LGBT community will just have to hold on. Where else can they go, right?? Well, maybe the Log Cabin Republicans, in a pinch?

If you are a student of irony, this is good. The Todd election was initially reversed based on a rule not enforced for nearly 20 years because it was superseded by the 1988 Fair Campaign Practices Act. The rule was also in violation of the federal Voting Rights Act and may have been repealed to boot. The panel that ruled the Todd election void based on this discriminatory rule was majority AA and appointed by Joe Reed, the vice chairman of minority affairs for the Democratic party in Alabama.

In the end, is this a racial issue, a gay / straight issue or simply about power? Yes, to varying degrees and individuals, it is about all of the above. However, it is clearly about keeping power in the hands of established Democratic operatives. In this case, those operatives are AA. Would the outcome be the same if the gay participants were also AA? Hard to say – in that case, other issues, like gay / straight tensions or religious ones, might have more influence. Would a gay AA win over a straight white person in a traditionally AA district? I have no idea.

In today’s political climate, with AA presidential candidate BO promising a “post-racial” inclusive administration, this issue is particularly poignant. How the Democratic Party handles this and how the AA community responds to the challenge of the LGBT community will be interesting, to say the least.

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  • MrMike

    What will Reid and Pelosi do wher Preznit Obama forces them out?

  • Sal

    The perils of identity politics.

    The chickens are coming home to roost for the idiots who run the DNC.

    This is what happens when you label yourself as a party of whom, instead of a party of what.

  • http://theheraclitanfire.blogspot.com/ craigdp

    Interesting that the “post-racial” candidate’s ascendancy has brought so much racial politics to the forefront. To some extent, it must have been there all along – however I can’t help but think that BHO’s tone-deafness on this matter (as on many others) has exacerbated the the problem.
    More disturbing to me are the actions and responses of his campaign shock troops: their scorched-earth tactics towards Hillary in the primary season has created a permanent rift in the Democratic party, whether they like it or not. The actions of Axelrod, Brazile, Dean and Pelosi have deeply damaged the Democratic party and their effects will be felt long after the convention or, indeed, this year’s election.

  • roseeriter

    The slice and dice of the corrupted DNC. PUMAs saw it happening. It is so black and white. Very clear and obvious to Independent thinkers. Can’t have unity when half the democratic party has been thrown under the bus.

  • workingclass artist

    LIsa B…What a great article. Thanks. I agree with you about the factional infighting. Hispanics and AA’s have been engaged in similar fighting both regionally and nationally for years. AA’s have worked hard to gain political influence and of course they don’t want to see this chipped away by competing groups like Hispanics, Asians, and other ethinc minorities. The difference with Gays is of course the added component of MORAL JUDGEMENT BASED ON RELIGIOUS/CULTURAL BIGOTRY. It is interesting that AA’s as a political force find themselves acting like the dreaded….CRACKER MAN….LOL….Trying to hang on to their little bit of power at all costs…..Of course any student of recent American History knows the ending…In a Democracy the fringe group fighting a just cause for Civil Rights will prevail….Ghandi prevailed against an EMPIRE and MLK patterned his movement after Ghandi’s….
    Gays and Women are the last groups still fighting for EQUALITY.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    Ok so how do I rationalize this

    I’m not Gay and I’m not Black and I DON’T FEEL WELCOME AT THE DNC OR IN THEIR PARTY!!

    I couldn’t even go to Log Cabin in a pinch.

    I’ll just stay UNA until my UNA’s BLEED!

    lol seriously is there ANYONE left the DNC has NOT thrown under the bus?

    besides elites, dumb kids & AA’s?

  • BoboBolinski

    I hope you Hillary supporters don’t ruin my and my fellow Obama supporters Convention. All we want from you is to drag your sorry selves to the polls in November and vote for Obama. Do you think you could at least do that ? Meanwhile let the big boys lead.

  • cdo

    OMG…have you guys seen this???

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/8/7/one-nation-under-a-new-obama-salute.html

    an obama salute?
    hey, if they want to call him a big zero thats ok by me!

  • Pragmatist

    BoboBolinski:

    You’re right about one thing: you and “the big O” are definitely “BOYS”. McCain and his team are the men. Now go out and play (with yourself)!

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    that’s about the 5th time it’s been advertised on this blog

    and I still think it’s disgusting so NO thanks I won’t look at the big stupid O again

    sorry it disgusts me

  • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

    The whole party needs to really crash and burn… we need to form a peoples party for real Americans what the dems used to be. We need to form a PUMA PARTY. They the radical liberal AA’s can have the Dem party find their own resources and we all can be done with them. We are better off with The Republicans than putting up with this BS. Vote McCain turn the country red teach the elite idiots a lesson they will never forget. MCCAIN NATION IN NOV! Country First!
    http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com

  • athy

    BoboBolinski…
    Can you tell me the reasons that you support Sen Obama for president-and please try to be specific and give examples where applicable.
    Thank you…

  • roseeriter

    Gawd you’re a real comedian. It ain’t goin’ to happen.

    NOBAMA EVER!

  • Perry Logan

    Shouldn’t you be praying for unity?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfZqMkdpYi0 ObamaTrollsAreIdiots

    BoBoAsswipe,

    You need to get your head out of your “Big Boy” ass. Your Convention? Give me a friggin break.

    And isn’t Donna Brazile gay? Why is she not fighting more for gay rights? I cannot stand that woman.

    JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY

    NO OBAMA
    MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES

  • roseeriter

    Maybe that’s to measure phallux symbols. So stupid.

  • JoseyJ

    LOL – typical Obamabot. Denigrating us WHILE demanding we vote for Oblahma.

    Dems for McCain – no Hussein!

  • no waffles aka drkate

    that is child’s talk, anchovy. Better go back to your sandbox.

    “your” convention? that is typical, isn’t it? it is not yours, obamas, or anyone elses.

    HA–obobo will be in jail in november, having lied to the american public about who he is.

  • workingclass artist

    RFLMAO….THE BIG ORIFICE SALUTE…..chuckle…..how fitting….

  • btintaos

    WOAH, BoboBolinski, you ass wipe. It is neither your nor Obama’s convention. It is the Democratic convention. The audacity of your myopothy!

  • Mandelay

    Leah Daughtry, is also a minister and is in charge of the convention operations. Earlier in the year, the NYT did an article on how she was bringing the faith-based elements into the convention and the party and, in turn, the election. Since then, she has been the subject of more NYT articles. She is the head of the DNC’s “religious outreach.” Question: is this discrimination against lesbians and gays a “faith-based” strategy? Do the black churches embrce the lesbian and gay community? When you start to add up the groups that have been “excluded” from the Dems “big tent,” including the Clinton Dems, does it form a realistic, viable, base for a new third party? Donna Brazile’s retort to unhappy Dems –”Stay home!” — and Obama’s “Get over it!” are still hanging in the air. It might be too late to reclaim the Democratic Party given the number of deeply entrenched operatives … the DNC bureucracy that brought Obama to power could very well be a long-term fixture. But, if more of the base continues to be excluded, the question asked regarding the LGBT community — “Where else can they go, right?” — could very well be answered by a new third party. After all, when your family disowns you and organizes against you, isn’t it more empowering to start a new family?

  • no waffles aka drkate

    yes, brazile is a lesbian.

  • btintaos

    That’s odd. I have a salute for Obama and it doesn’t look anything like that.

  • workingclass artist

    BINGO SAL….This is why the Left hate the centrist ( Clintons ) as much as the Right GOP……I mean after all they did the impossible in the 90′s…Moved the party after it’s factional ID Infighting quagmire and did what FDR did….
    Economy first…..The rest follows….

  • basil

    This story reminds me of the drive in Illinois by Oabama and other black pols to address an increasing Hispanic community by pledging to stop them from picking up seats in the House.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    roflol!

    ohhhhhhh lawdy

  • Uña de Gato

    New category of troll: The OC troll (OC=Operation Chaos). This is obviously a Repub who relishes in sowing discord and is marching to Rush Limbaugh’s little tune.

  • workingclass artist

    Commissar Donna Brazeal….chuckle….Is an AA Lesbian who is also Catholic.
    Alot of conflicts in that persona….chuckle…I’m sure she and Barry have lots to chat about….LOL

  • workingclass artist

    Somebody should post a guard at Darwin’s Grave..chuckle….

  • Rob in Chicago

    BoboBolinski:

    Some troll, didn’t you just call your candidate a “boy”?

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Robbedvoter/SunMoon/?action=view&current=thatsracistgm7.gif

  • Uña de Gato

    The Obama Handjob Salute, soon to slide over the NBC peacock.

  • workingclass artist

    Remember when Hispanics were marching for Immigration Rights….and the AA politicians were coming out in droves ( at least in Texas ) to support their brothers on TeeVee……I never laughed so hard at the Phony Unity show….
    Yeah We’re SOLID….Until you outnumber me or get to big a slice o’ my Political Pie…LOL…….sheeesh!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfZqMkdpYi0 ObamaTrollsAreIdiots

    Basil,

    Yes, I am sure that is a little thing he did not address when he spoke with LaRaza. I think it needs to be put into a television ad aimed towards the hispanic voters.

    JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY

    NO OBAMA
    MCCAIN 2008 OR UNTIL HILLARY RISES

  • Pink Panther

    As outlined in a letter sent to the DNC by the Donald Hitchcock’s attorney, Tara Jensen, the following was stated:

    “At that point, you became physically intimidating, and moved quickly
    toward me, within six inches of my face. In fact, you were so close that you
    spit on my face. You then proceeded to point your finger at me, and in an angry, raised voice yelled, “Don’t you ever contradict me,” and “Don’t you ever
    interrupt me.” You also told me to “know my place.””

    Note the comment from the DNC Attorney telling the female attorney to “know her place” and not to contradict the male attorney, and he spit in her face.

    The “new” Democratic Party and Obama treat all women like second class citizens.

  • yttik

    Well, Obama has also thrown AA’s under the bus, some of them just don’t realize it yet. Rev Wright went under, Jesse Jackson appears a wee bit annoyed, and Al Sharpton didn’t enjoy being critisized over the Bell protests. There’s those people in Chicago who went without heat. There’s Tavis Smiley who got death threats. There’s black superdelegates who were being threatened. Lot’s of black people under this bus, too.

    Obama really is just all about Obama. That’s who he plans to represent if he’s elected.

  • hank48188

    I only know 1 person voting for barry, that’s because he’s a TEAMSTER OFFICIAL and Obama promised to remove Gov’t oversight and leave the workers without protection from their UNION.

  • http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.com/ timepassages

    So true, I am unsure the party will ever be the same I think It will take years for it to happen. Possibly another Bill Clinton or FDR. We could be waiting a while.
    http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/

    ________________________________________

  • Pink Panther

    Obama and his campaign are becoming pornographic.

  • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

    It is comments like yours that make us even more convienced it will be a cold day in HELL before I carry my Ass to the voting both and select your boy… MCCAIN MCCAIN MCCAIN MCCAIN MCCAIN CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW??????????????????? NEVER BO… HE IS NOT WORTHY OF THE JOB AS PRESIDENT!
    http://www.hillaryloylistnowformccain.com

  • yttik

    ROFL! That’s so funny BoboBolinski it must be satire. Nobody could seriously post something so silly.

  • workingclass artist

    FASCIST IS AS FASCIST DOES……nuff said…..

  • roseeriter

    YUP- They’re as sick in the head as the Obobobots

  • david in iowa

    Oh this just gets better and better. And it will really hit the fan after Labor day. If the BO camp thought it was rough going in the primary or this summer, be prepared for the perfect storm this fall.

    Phase 2 after the Obama loss in Nov is who, when, where; who drives the bus, when do they drive it over people, and whom is thrown under the bus and by whom? And where do the Dems go after all that carnage?

  • Carolyn Mann

    Does anyone know off-hand how many on the DNC Rules Committee are AA? I remember there were a lot of black faces, but I don’t remember if they represented the majority. Could that partially explain why they were so intent on preserving Barack’s delegate lead?

  • alan carrier

    the aa community has become very anti gay as of late the rap lyrics re virulently anti gay. if u r gay lesb. bi. or tg there is now only romm for u under the dnc bus! hilly 0c or mcain 08. clinton 2012!!!

  • verminme

    Gotta love the way pliantiff’s attorney called him “Mr. Dean”. The needle.

  • Mandelay

    LOL! It might be too late for that as well!

  • Danny

    Whoa – I campaigned hard for Howard Dean in 03-04 (yyyeeeeaaaahhhhh) until he dropped out. I then worked to help get him elected to DNC Chairman by getting many friends and family members to write and call influential people. I feel so let down by this so called “leader” I am now so disappointed in Dean and would like to know what has been protected by request of the DNC (homophobia perhaps). Note: Thank you Donald for going after this lawsuit on civil rights and exposing the Black Caucus for who they are – power hungry and unwilling to be fair to fellow Americans also discriminated against. I know the struggle that African Americans have been through but skin color folks aren’t the only kinfolk that look out for your back. If you don’t have our back we don’t have yours.

    Dean has chosen sides and hurt this party. He should have insisted as Chairman for equal treatment and made seating delegates of LGBT people mandatory. But alas the black caucus was too powerful and power hungry and did I mention homophobic to have that.

    What this has done is destroy the integrity of this Democratic Party.

    To hell with the DNC and Donna Brazile.

    I will punish them with my vote for McCain. At least I know he isn’t a shyster cheater and liar like the Presumptuous presumptive BS or BHO. Which is it? We don’t even know.

  • SBwa

    Lesbian, gay and transgendered Americans should join the PUMA party. Screw the DNC!

  • Hadrianus

    I am absolutely spell-bound watching the Democratic party (my party) implode. I can’t think of a more deserving bunch of morons. It is so pathetic to witness discrimination of one group, the LGBT, being perpetrated by the AA group. What is not acknowledged is the long standing historical bias the AA group has always had for the other, usually sanctioned by religion. Not saying that this bias is not rife in other groups, but it seems especialy deep seated in this one. Obama really thinks that by a wave of his magic wand, he can bring the Gay hating group and the Gays together under his celestial banner. Of course, he is as wrong on this issue as he is on virtually everything else. Unless Hillary is resurrected in Denver, we deserve to loose. Only she can reunite us.

  • Katmoon

    Hey Bobo,
    You need to read up on your leaders platform.

    2008 Democratic National Platform
    Voting rights are fundamental rights because they are protective of all other rights. We
    will work to fully protect and enforce the fundamental Constitutional right of every
    American vote—to ensure that the Constitution’s promise is fully realized. Pg 55

  • debbie

    Sen. Clinton, making her first solo campaign appearance for Sen. Obama in Las Vegas today, previews a new Obama offensive on PAY EQUITY — THE ISSUE THAT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN BELIEVES WILL DRIVE THE BIGGEST WEDGE BETWEEN SEN. MCCAIN AND WOMEN VOTERS.

    McCain has opposed measures that would treat gender discrimination involving pay in the same category as race, disability and age discrimination.

    http://www.politico.com/playbook/

  • SBwa

    interesting that the last people fighting for equality are doing so because of sexuality and gender.

  • debbie

    Sure, because Republicans are so much better on LGBT issues than Democrats…right?

  • notodisenfranchisement

    I am not sure this is about identity politics as much as it is about power.

    If a majority of gays and lesbians voted for Obama in the Primary (though instead they voted for Clinton at nearly 70% on average), then, of course Brazile would be pushing for LGBT inclusion in the affirmative action for convention delegates.

    My theory is that Brazile and the DNC planned to play the race card against the Clintons, knew that AAs would be a strategic demographic during this Primary (thus AA heavy districts were also weighted to get more delegates), and this issue with Hitchcock and the Shay Amendment reflects that Brazile and the DNC would do anything to prevent any erosion of the AA delegate number.

  • workingclass artist

    Gee…..Typical I would say….aaaaaand both of these groups are singled out for torture and murder…..around the world no matter what their race, culture or religion is……No ?

  • Cooney

    Sounds like the black caucus yields a lot of dirty politics. We saw that in the primary with anyone who defied the AA candidate who was themselves AA. We now have a corrupt candidate and a corrupt DNC. Power corrupts absolutely, as the saying goes, even in the hands of those who deny they have it.

  • PraiseJEEBUS

    Leah Daughtry, Chairwoman of the Democratic Convention, and Pentacostal Minsiter has been committing Tax Fraud in the District….

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-belonsky/leah-daughtry-has-been-up_b_83328.html

    Democratic National Committee Chief of Staff Leah Daughtry may not have been entirely honest with Washington DC.

    The New York-born Pentecostal minister turned politico allegedly exploited DC’s property tax exemptions. That’s not a scandal, of course. Countless citizens use the Homestead Deduction to cut their tax rates nearly in half. The district’s law states, however, that to take advantage of the deduction, you must vote in DC. Some say Daughtry didn’t get the memo, because she’s been registered to vote in New York City since February 21, 1996. The original deduction law said nothing about voting in DC, but lawmakers changed the rule back in 2002.

    If this story sounds familiar, it should: Bush henchman Karl Rove played the same game back in 2005 until the Washington Post exposed his illegal exploitation.

    One would think that an insider such as Daughtry would have noted Rove’s outing, but the DNC staffer must have been distracted – she’s voted in New York four times since the new law went into effect. Daughtry’s property is currently valued at $239,250. That price doesn’t include the land, which boosts the total to $341,780.

  • tamerlane

    Bobo,

    “Your” convention? “Obama supporters’” convention?

    It’s the frakking DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S convention. And in case you hadn’t heard, more Democrats support Hillary Clinton than Barry Soetoro. Does that put a damper on the Nazi rally you’ve planned for Mile High?

    I sure hope you and your fellow fascist Obama supporters don’t spoil my frakking FREE DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY!

    Oh, and we’ll be “dragging” our “sorry selves” to vote in November, but no way in Hell will it ever be for your worthless sack of shit excuse for a candidate.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmm…..I beg to differ…..This has been goin on a while…imho

  • http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/ troy m

    It seems i have seen that salute before. Oh, yeah. Battlestar Galactica.

    Continue.

  • Leisa

    Well I do not believe one thing Obama says or what his surrogates say he supports. Including Hillary. She is towing the party line, being a good girl and carrying Obama’s apple cart. She is trying to prove that she is not divisive, as Obama and his surrogates painted her throughout the primary. I just get angry thinking about this…

    Anyway, there are words and then there are actions…

    McCain has more women on his staff, they are paid more and have higher positions than Obama’s staff.

    Words vs deeds…

  • squeazzy

    You are not gay, you are not black but you are a woman and women were the firsts thrown under the bus… and you didn’t know that.

  • Salt

    important constituencies ahh so are the gay and lesbian …………
    ………………and the DNC needs to diversify we saw that on the …
    …..RBC and the DNC appear to be tone deaf to any but the AA community and culture.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/puma/ kat in your hat

    debbie: What’s your point? If you think all Pumas are for McCain, you are misinformed.

  • nancysabet

    wishful thinking you are! Do you really think American people are that stupid to vote for this fraud?

  • notodisenfranchisement

    workingclass artist – maybe it’s a combination of both motives.

    i think one of the undercurrents of the fight for gays to have equal rights is because they’re not a visible minority, and that’s why some of the AA leadership is making an issue of this.

  • workingclass artist

    Gee….Sen. Clinton was reminding me more and more of both FDR and Truman…..

  • iceblinkjm

    You should cross post this across the blogsphere. I think it’s an issue and a problem that gay and lesbian democrats need to be made aware of. This should factor in when we write those big checks when the pols come around and pay us lip service.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmm…..How many decades did women have to wait for the right to vote after the Emancipation Of AA Males ?…….5 I think….sumpin’ like that….

  • Helen S

    BoBoBolinski Please tell me who in the Hell died and “gave” you Obama supporters the party. Come to think of it though…………it’s so BAD that you and the Obama Supporters deserve it!!! Thank goodness I had the forsight to Leave it to you!!!!

  • workingclass artist

    Maybe….But when the Centrists ( Clinton et, al ) gained the political edge in the 90′s…..The party began to shift center. This was important because the Centrists ( at that time called the New Democrats which is a name Commissar Brazeal has shamefully HIJACKED ) were trying to resurrect the FDR formula….Economy First and the rest will follow. Of course this means that ID agendas for all ID political factions take a back seat. The GOP was pissed because they had been taking advantage of the ID Turmoil and using it to unify their own factions under the great Fear banner……Aaaaaaaand….Lo & Behold…..WJC and his centrists pulled it off.
    GOP never forgave FDR for being economically savvy….They would love to return to HOOVERVILLE…..Aaaaaand here comes another Democrat who understands the economy…..OH MY !
    *** The first people that turned on WJC during Monica BS were those GOP Goosteppers ( predictable )….Aaaaaaand the Democratic Left who want the party to return to the ID Political Fringe cause it helps them get re-elected…..***

  • jnm594

    If there is anything good that’s going to come out of this bizzare and surreal year is that the hypocrisy of the “powers that be” will be exposed for all to see.

    I for one am sick of the pandering and guilt trips.
    The very sad part of is that the formerly oppressed are the oppressors today.

    I for one cannot wait for the new party to emerge. How about the Amarican Party?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs dgr

    debbie, don’t be a ditz

  • Karma

    Geez….it is utterly ridiculous that the MSM, Obama, and his supporters are acting like honoring this Convention tradition is somehow rude and whiny.

    Obama having probelms asking the last Democratic President to speak at the Convention. Makes me wonder just how weak he is on A LOT of levels.

    It is obvious that Bill Clinton would speak…it is obvious that Hillary should speak with her name in nomination.

    To drag his feet on the obvious to try and inflict more damage on the Clintons via the MSM. Shows poor character and an ungracious winner and disrespect to the party he claims to lead.

  • stodghie

    ANIMAL FARM! the aa’s have power and are now acting like the ones they battled for power with civil rights as a tool. only now they are on the other side and twice as hypocritical.

  • stodghie

    well you can rest assured we will do our best to disappoint you.

  • stodghie

    well how are they going to run the dnc when the lose and contributions dry up. even brazile has to eat. hehehehe

  • stodghie

    maybe not having dean on the ticket and winning the wh was a gift and we didn’t know it. i too wanted dean to get the chair of the dnc and boy was i ever mistaken.

  • stodghie

    the bottom line is “debbie”, democrats claim to be for the little guy and the forgotten mistreated women. the fact is they aren’t so screw them.

  • stodghie

    poor hillary! i feel sorry for her having to pander to that pathetic axx.

  • stodghie

    animal farm revisited.

  • Chelsea Patriot

    “Barrack’s my Big Boy, Mommy!” shrieked Stanley Anne to the weeping Madelyn. “Really, really Big! Bigger then Pappy! Barrack’s going to lead me.”

  • Blue State Girl

    This incident never took place. But it sure makes good press if you’re Donald Hitchcock.

    Which reminds me: Who is paying Hitchcock’s legal bills if he’s out of work? The GOP?

  • Mandelay

    It doesn’t matter. The DNC, for telling large segments of their base to “Stay home on election day.” (Brazile to HRC supporters) or “Get over it.” (Obama to HRC supporters, that DNC needs to be taught a lesson. Rewarding their horrific behavior with a vote in November is just plain dumb. It will only encourage them to behave badly again. Dangling buzz words in front of the women voters like carrots on a stick is shameful. My party needs to clean up its act. Obama dragged it into the gutter and he expects to win from that position because “it’s the Chicago way.” It’s not enough for him to be President. He wants total control of the party.

  • http://none Jessie Britton

    I just heard a part of the Hillary Clinton Nevada speech. It is going to depress some of her supporters, I know it did me. I can only think it was done to preserve her options for 2012, or she is going to get her “roll call” vote, which also helps preserve that option, but expects that she will lose that vote. It does not change my vote, if she is not the nominee, I will vote for McCain or Nader or stay at home.

  • an observer

    what do you think Hillary can realistically do at this point beside go along to get along. the AA community is a big part of the party. they’ve been scammed or bought off by Obama. let Obama crash on his own. he’s doing a great job.

  • http://Reddragon62.blogspot.com/ RedDragon62

    “Racial Politics” has always been a part of this country’s elections. Anyone living in a big City where there is a large AA community knows this all too well.
    Here in Chicago, it has been part of the landscape for as long as I can remember.

    Now I know some twit will read this and claim I am a racist! So be it. I am sorry if some of our citizens cannot bring themselves to see that “WE” are in DEEP trouble in this country because of the race issue and we have been for a long time.

    Those of us in Chicago know what it feels like when we apply for a job, have the right qualifications for the job, interview for this job, only to see it go to Three minorities because of some Ass Backwards Affirmative Action appointee. Now, before the Trolls run around and call me a “White Racist”, I would like to say that I am not white, nor am I a racist! but I have seen what this insidious plaque called Racism does to those of EVERY race!

    To those of you who claim a minority cannot be a racist, I suggest you spend some time in an Urban Ghetto! The FIRST words that come from the mouth of some of these folks is….”That White Bitch”! Or That SPIC Bastard! I have heard it myself and I suspect many of you have heard it also.

    I say all of this to bring up a point I have been hearing for months now.
    Obama HAS been using Race Baiting Tactics since his days as a Peon here in Chicago. He used it to great effect against the Clinton’s and now his “Disciples” are flagrant in their use of “Race Politics”.

    What was once in the shadows is now out in the light. I blame the DNC for this for not putting a stop to it when it reared it’s ugly head during the Primary’s.
    Those in power are about to realize what “WE” in Chicago have know for so long……

    The Race Genie is out of the Bottle now and he is an UGly son of a bitch!

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    Howard Dean and his wingman, Donna Brazile, continue to auger the party into the side of the hill. Only in this dimension, we are made to suffer THE CURSE OF THE LIVING DEAD as they spring to life from the smoking wreckage to fly again, their propwash churning up yet another perfect storm. Segue to black & GLB delegates duking it out in Denver on National TV while Recreate68 flows through the streets outside.

    My, my what the DNC can do in seven short months. Now that is productivity.

    In a lighter vein, Dean’s problem with “extreme” is good for a giggle. You can be at the “end of the spectrum” but not be “extreme”.

    This isn’t life, it’s an Ed Wood movie.

  • http://takeaction.wordpress.com/ A.Citizen

    Exactly. And of course no one wants to talk about any AA politician’s problem with the ‘down-low’ nor the Latino issue. AAs need to get their house more in order before they start waving their fingers under my nose.

    I don’t own nor did my familiy every own and slaves. Period.

    I don’t look down on our Brown sisters and brothers nor our friends, some of which are mine, from the growing LGBT Army.

    Fuck Obana for his dog-whistling to the black church and whites who hate Teh Gay.

  • All Obama Supporters Are Homophobes

    This does not surprise me. After all, Obama welcomed Donnie McClurkin to the Democratic Party during the racially divisive primary in South Carolina.

  • Kite

    Hillary supporters are going to spoil yours and fellow Obama supporters’ convention? I thought it was the convention for ALL Democrats!!! You think you won’t need Hillary’s 18 million votes because Obama is going to get all those Republican votes and win the red states? Well good luck to you… you’re certainly going to need it!

  • mary

    A Citizen

    Absolutely correct! I agree. The Lesbian and Gay issue will haunt the DNC. If the (ex)Democratic Party is truly to hold onto its values, then it can’t throw the Gays under its fuming Bus! No matter how much the black community may wish this.

    The AA community has more in common with the Republicans in treating the Gays in the same shameful fashion the AfricanAmericans were treated in the 60s before MLK came in the picture and Lyndon Johnson’s legislation. Kennedy would not have voted it in w/o Johnson!

    THE GAYS ARE A LEGITIMATE GROUP NOW OPPRESSED BY THE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO THEMSELVES WERE OPPRESSED. FULLL CIRCLE ON THE STUPIDITY OF THE DNC.

    THE DNC CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST

    YOU GO MR. HITCHCOCK. SUE THE HELL OUT OF SCREAMER DEAN AND HIS GANG OF PSEUDO-DEMOCRAT THUGS WORSHIPING CHICAGO SEWER POLITICIAN BARACK HUSSEN OBAMA

  • mary

    Roseeriter
    and
    Craigdp

    Tahnk you for expressing exactly what I feel about the ignominious behavior of the DNC. After their Hillary-bashing with assistance from the misogynist media frat-boys’ antics that pushed him to a fraudulent “finish” line, what next? This is truly a Permanent Rift and the “scorched earth” tactics will NOT ever be forgotten by those who witnessed day after day and night on their so-called “news” channels.

    Why cannot a Third Party (Puma) be born after this. If it weren’t for the third party in Canada, (NDP–new democratic party) they wouldn’t have accomplished thier progressive legislative achiements:

    Universal Health Care (similary to HIllary’s)
    since 1965.

    Gender fullEquality Rights. Since 1982 constitutionally entrenched. Women have equal rights while ERA is struggling still.

    A third party make sure complacency never sets in. If one of the 2, say, major parties has a minority position while governing, then a Confidence Motion by a third party that refuses to support them, means ELECTION! And the minority govering party won’t chance it!

    Go Pumas

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